Another fantastic video, Barry. Have had my 6S-80 for a few weeks now, and being my first foray into sim racing, and seeing your positive feedback is nice to hear. As others have mentioned, Stanley at 6Sigma has been a pleasure to deal with.
Hey.. did you got the shifter stand also?... was wondering if I can accommodate both H pattern and Sparco handbrake mod. Seen the web, but it looks tiny.
@@bubbles422 Well it's profile, so we can buy a stand from any other brand rlly, I think... only issue would be price I guess. Also can't sim without a Gamer Buttkicker 2 adapter, hope I can find it.. Can't even play an arcade racing game without rumble, can't go back anymore. Those things spoils you so much.
Not familiar with the other products in the other regions, but in Canada here, the good price/performance rate aluminum profile sim rig brands are the ASR, 6Sigma and GTOmega. This 6S-80 rig is directly compared to the ASR4(yes, 4, not ASR3), and the GTO prime cockpit, the 80 has the cheapest price tag within these 3 models.
Sorry but the 6S-80 does not compare to the ASR4. The 6S-80 is 80 series profile while the ASR4 is 120 series profile. So you would have to compare it to the ASR3 which is 80 series profile and even then the ASR3 has a much stronger pedal tray and wheel deck. The 6S-80 upright attachment method is the only place where I see it wins over the ASR3. As far as price goes the 6S-80 is cheaper then the ASR3 only because it is currently on sale and comes with a weak pedal tray.
@@IvebenKruzen no matter how heavy how big the base is, if the poles sit on the beam, they provide the same sturdiness because of the structure. But if ASR is willing to use the little bit wider deck beam and keep the poles on the side on the ASR3, it’s gonna kill it
@@sixx1095 Yes the uprights on the ASR3 would have slight movement with a DD base for sure but so does the wheel mounting plate on the 6S-80. Doesn't matter where the movement is, it's going to be felt or seen at the wheel. ASR3 needs a better upright solution and the 6S-80 needs a better pedal tray and wheel deck solution. Maybe combine both ;)
Do you have the shifter arm attachment? From this video it looks like wide bolsters on bucket seats could hit their shifter mount profile when mounted up.
Love you reviews, man, and this one in particular hit with me. I'd love to get an upgrade from the GT Lite and biggest barrier (besides explaining up my wife why I have an aluminum cockpit) is price. Finding used rigs is impossible so it's awesome to see rig reviews, from a trusted and entertaining source, in this price point
Great video as always. I appreciate the breakdown of everything in such detail. I would really like to see a video of the top rigs, top wheels and top pedals etc. From best price to best build quality. Keep up the great work berry and keep racing 🏁
Yeah I prefer the beefier t nuts as opposed to the easier to assemble spring loaded ones especially for the real structural connections. For things like drink holder, keyboard and mouse trays etc etc spring loaded is fine.
Thanks for the very informative Barry. You just made me a customer of 6Sigma. They currently (7/7/2022) have then discounted to $411USD. For the strength, and that i already have a seat, that is a deal and a half.
I have the 6S-80 with a simagic alpha mini and the P2000 pedals. Since the Alpha mini comes with it's own mounting bracket I never used the 6 Sigma bracket for the wheelbase and I have absolutely no flex. The pedals are still with their stock spring configuration straight out of the box and I have no flex there either. I will be playing around with the stiffer springs soon and hopefully the rigidity of the pedal mount stays solid. I will however lay down the seat base profiles like you did because I do get that "truck driver" feel, but other than that I have 0 complaints as far as how solid this rig is. A future upgrade will be a Sigms Integrale 4 actuator motion system. Now since this rig is on the lighter side would I be able to get away with a Dk2 or would you recommend a Dk2+
I was curious about this because the p2000's have that massive plate that they're attached to. I would think with either large fender washers on the bottom side of the mounting plate or even some plates to sandwich the foot rest between them would increase rigidity quite a bit.
For anyone that is interested, the difference in the profile used isn't just related to what comes out of China, rather the specification of profile. I did alot of research on this when building my SFX-100 as I built my electronics box out of T slot profile and the 100x100 profiles. Using a company like item24, you find that the profile used on this chassis is the "light" spec. The profile with nothing added to the name is more representative of the standard spec, which is the same as the profile you shown from Europe (p1-x for example). You can also get a Heavy grade spec, as well as some other interesting profiles with interesting gusseting. Overall, it appears that these guys have just run for the cheapest profile.
I didn’t know there was difference between the profiles before I got into the profile cockpit. Yes, these are the “light” profiles, but they are not called Chinese profiles because you can buy the profiles spec as 4080H or 4080L from China, found out when I tried to mod my rig. TBH, I am more than happy to use the Light ones over the Heavy if that can cut me the cost. I don’t think and I have never seen(yet) that anyone was able to bend the profile during sim racing.
Im just curious if light profile vs heavy profile makes any negligible difference when it comes to using it in sim racing. I just ordered the 6S-120 and also went to the ASR warehouse as im local to check out their rigs. They also showed me how the thickness of the aluminum is significantly thicker than what is offered at 6S. However when comparing the ASR 4 120mm rig to the 6S-120 does the thicker spec of profile really make any difference for the 300ish dollars more in the price in terms of performance, not considering ease of assembly, customer service, etc.
thank you for this, I know that once I have the space to allocate for aluminium rig I will try to build one, so detailed insight into how those work and how to approach them will be very helpful for me down the line.
Fantastic review - I was able to just purchase one with seat, keyboard mount, mouse tray, and a single monitor stand for right at $1120, about $500 less than I could find anywhere else. It'll be here tuesday and I'll be using this video as a setup reference. Thank you!
Hi Barry, could you do a review of the Next Level Racing Motion Plus? I think it's quite an unique product and think your hardware reviews are unparalleled. I am very interested in your opinion of it.
Great video brother. I was looking at this but then decided I was going to look at the 120 or 160 model. In either case, I know that 6SSR doesn't offer a buttkicker mount. Would you (or anyone in the comments) know of any place where I could get such a mount for a profile rig like this? Cheers!
Thank you for this video! It convinced me to finally buy the Slim chassis, and thanks to your guide I was well prepared to assemble it. Only took me ~4 hours with breaks, and its great!
I kept trying to figure out what we were watching in the top right. Nothing. Nothing is the answer, its just background for the main video. I feel dumb.
Does anybody have insight when comparing this to the Next Level F-GT set up? I was hard set on getting the F-GT until I saw 6 sigma.. the quality looks a bit better and they’re local to me. Planing on using a triple monitor set up OR an ultra wide. I don’t plan on getting a wheelbase above 10NM. currently using thrustmaster TX
How does this compare to the Trak Racer TR80 Lite? Edit: I just went to the site a few minutes ago to purchase this cockpit and it 'appears' from the image to have gone to ultra-lite profile. The end-views of the profile look nothing like your demonstrated pieces.
Dude literally skipped how many nuts you need and where they would go in the beginning. Come on, man. Either way, I'm glad your video helped. I just wished it was straight to the point
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Another fantastic video, Barry. Have had my 6S-80 for a few weeks now, and being my first foray into sim racing, and seeing your positive feedback is nice to hear. As others have mentioned, Stanley at 6Sigma has been a pleasure to deal with.
Hey.. did you got the shifter stand also?... was wondering if I can accommodate both H pattern and Sparco handbrake mod. Seen the web, but it looks tiny.
@@zemi2750 I’m wondering the same. How big is the stand and so on? But can’t really find much on it
@@bubbles422 Well it's profile, so we can buy a stand from any other brand rlly, I think... only issue would be price I guess. Also can't sim without a Gamer Buttkicker 2 adapter, hope I can find it.. Can't even play an arcade racing game without rumble, can't go back anymore. Those things spoils you so much.
Not familiar with the other products in the other regions, but in Canada here, the good price/performance rate aluminum profile sim rig brands are the ASR, 6Sigma and GTOmega. This 6S-80 rig is directly compared to the ASR4(yes, 4, not ASR3), and the GTO prime cockpit, the 80 has the cheapest price tag within these 3 models.
Sorry but the 6S-80 does not compare to the ASR4. The 6S-80 is 80 series profile while the ASR4 is 120 series profile. So you would have to compare it to the ASR3 which is 80 series profile and even then the ASR3 has a much stronger pedal tray and wheel deck. The 6S-80 upright attachment method is the only place where I see it wins over the ASR3. As far as price goes the 6S-80 is cheaper then the ASR3 only because it is currently on sale and comes with a weak pedal tray.
@@IvebenKruzen no matter how heavy how big the base is, if the poles sit on the beam, they provide the same sturdiness because of the structure. But if ASR is willing to use the little bit wider deck beam and keep the poles on the side on the ASR3, it’s gonna kill it
@@sixx1095 Yes the uprights on the ASR3 would have slight movement with a DD base for sure but so does the wheel mounting plate on the 6S-80. Doesn't matter where the movement is, it's going to be felt or seen at the wheel. ASR3 needs a better upright solution and the 6S-80 needs a better pedal tray and wheel deck solution. Maybe combine both ;)
@@IvebenKruzen we consumers are always happy to see that! :)
Any research and you wouldn’t be so wrong lol
This is like bob ross, very good instruction while being relaxing.
Happy to see our cockpits reviewed !
Almost bought this kit. but got the allin1gaming kit. based on your review.
Thank you!
6 Sigma is an awesome company. Great people, amazing value for price product. Couldn't be happier!
Great review! I own the 6S-80 as shown. Build was simple and quality for value is perfect… couldn’t be happier.
Do you have the shifter arm attachment? From this video it looks like wide bolsters on bucket seats could hit their shifter mount profile when mounted up.
Thanks for the video, it helped me set mine up!! 6sigma is amazing! Love that company!!
thank you for the very detailed and well documented process
51:52 I think it's fair that you are using this pedal set, thanks for clarifying what kind of mods you did to it.
Love you reviews, man, and this one in particular hit with me. I'd love to get an upgrade from the GT Lite and biggest barrier (besides explaining up my wife why I have an aluminum cockpit) is price. Finding used rigs is impossible so it's awesome to see rig reviews, from a trusted and entertaining source, in this price point
Great video as always. I appreciate the breakdown of everything in such detail. I would really like to see a video of the top rigs, top wheels and top pedals etc. From best price to best build quality. Keep up the great work berry and keep racing 🏁
Yeah I prefer the beefier t nuts as opposed to the easier to assemble spring loaded ones especially for the real structural connections. For things like drink holder, keyboard and mouse trays etc etc spring loaded is fine.
Just got mine today with the dd pro today cant wait great video ill definitely be using it to set mine up next week.
Thanks for the support :)
how you liking it so far? im looking to get this with dd pro too
@@RA-ec4sw If you decide to go with one of our product, you can send me a message.
@@Flowracingmotorsport alright will do
Thanks for the very informative Barry. You just made me a customer of 6Sigma. They currently (7/7/2022) have then discounted to $411USD. For the strength, and that i already have a seat, that is a deal and a half.
have a link to 411USD
@@bambino167 it was literally on 6Sigma's website. This was also 2 months ago they had the sale, when i made this comment.
Just ordered one of these! Can’t wait
Great ! Thank you for your support, hope you will like it
I have the 6S-80 with a simagic alpha mini and the P2000 pedals. Since the Alpha mini comes with it's own mounting bracket I never used the 6 Sigma bracket for the wheelbase and I have absolutely no flex. The pedals are still with their stock spring configuration straight out of the box and I have no flex there either. I will be playing around with the stiffer springs soon and hopefully the rigidity of the pedal mount stays solid. I will however lay down the seat base profiles like you did because I do get that "truck driver" feel, but other than that I have 0 complaints as far as how solid this rig is.
A future upgrade will be a Sigms Integrale 4 actuator motion system.
Now since this rig is on the lighter side would I be able to get away with a Dk2 or would you recommend a Dk2+
I was curious about this because the p2000's have that massive plate that they're attached to. I would think with either large fender washers on the bottom side of the mounting plate or even some plates to sandwich the foot rest between them would increase rigidity quite a bit.
For anyone that is interested, the difference in the profile used isn't just related to what comes out of China, rather the specification of profile.
I did alot of research on this when building my SFX-100 as I built my electronics box out of T slot profile and the 100x100 profiles.
Using a company like item24, you find that the profile used on this chassis is the "light" spec. The profile with nothing added to the name is more representative of the standard spec, which is the same as the profile you shown from Europe (p1-x for example). You can also get a Heavy grade spec, as well as some other interesting profiles with interesting gusseting.
Overall, it appears that these guys have just run for the cheapest profile.
I didn’t know there was difference between the profiles before I got into the profile cockpit. Yes, these are the “light” profiles, but they are not called Chinese profiles because you can buy the profiles spec as 4080H or 4080L from China, found out when I tried to mod my rig. TBH, I am more than happy to use the Light ones over the Heavy if that can cut me the cost. I don’t think and I have never seen(yet) that anyone was able to bend the profile during sim racing.
Im just curious if light profile vs heavy profile makes any negligible difference when it comes to using it in sim racing. I just ordered the 6S-120 and also went to the ASR warehouse as im local to check out their rigs. They also showed me how the thickness of the aluminum is significantly thicker than what is offered at 6S. However when comparing the ASR 4 120mm rig to the 6S-120 does the thicker spec of profile really make any difference for the 300ish dollars more in the price in terms of performance, not considering ease of assembly, customer service, etc.
Hi Barry, love your work and reviews. Keep up the good work!
50:43 - It's Sebring! :) great vid
Barry is the Bob Ross of the sim world.
thank you for this, I know that once I have the space to allocate for aluminium rig I will try to build one, so detailed insight into how those work and how to approach them will be very helpful for me down the line.
Fantastic review - I was able to just purchase one with seat, keyboard mount, mouse tray, and a single monitor stand for right at $1120, about $500 less than I could find anywhere else. It'll be here tuesday and I'll be using this video as a setup reference. Thank you!
3:20 not true, the contact surface is similar, the wider nut is stronger in itself, but the forces exerted on the profile, in both cases, are similar.
This is just GT Omega Prime Lite.
any chance we could get a review of the fanatec CSL DD? :)
Hi Barry, could you do a review of the Next Level Racing Motion Plus? I think it's quite an unique product and think your hardware reviews are unparalleled. I am very interested in your opinion of it.
$3500 FOR 2dof?
Any chance you do a review of the Rigmetal Basic? Great Videos!
Seems like a budget oriented solution. Would like to see more value in the quality/design
for $450 CAD its definitely the cheapest priced 80mm spec rig option out there.
@@ishannage248lol for a reason
SRG need some T-shirts and other Merch with "So...Lets Get To It" on 'em. C'mon Barry R. Make it happen Please.
looks great, thanks
Great video brother. I was looking at this but then decided I was going to look at the 120 or 160 model. In either case, I know that 6SSR doesn't offer a buttkicker mount. Would you (or anyone in the comments) know of any place where I could get such a mount for a profile rig like this? Cheers!
Hello! Does the Red seating bracket come with the seat or chassis?
Thank you for this video! It convinced me to finally buy the Slim chassis, and thanks to your guide I was well prepared to assemble it. Only took me ~4 hours with breaks, and its great!
Question: If someone wanted to buy those large T nuts for a build of their own of the same profile, would they need to order "4040-M8" style?
This or the Next Level Racing GT Track cockpit?
How are you using Logitech pedals as a standalone? Adapter?
could you add motion to this? think it is sturdy enough? Thanks
I have an r12. Would this suffice with no flex?
It’s not clear to me which t nuts are provided with this kit. Were the bigger t nuts something you purchased separately?
Wondered the same thing
Just watched this again. At the 54 minute mark he compliments 6 Sigma for including the beefier t nuts.
What does 40 80 profile mean?
Anyone know where you can buy 40/80 and 40/120 black profile in the US? I want to build my own rig but sourcing the material has been challenging.
I kept trying to figure out what we were watching in the top right. Nothing. Nothing is the answer, its just background for the main video. I feel dumb.
Does anybody have insight when comparing this to the Next Level F-GT set up? I was hard set on getting the F-GT until I saw 6 sigma.. the quality looks a bit better and they’re local to me. Planing on using a triple monitor set up OR an ultra wide. I don’t plan on getting a wheelbase above 10NM. currently using thrustmaster TX
can i mount a GTomega chair to a 6S-80 Chasiss?
How does this compare to the Trak Racer TR80 Lite?
Edit:
I just went to the site a few minutes ago to purchase this cockpit and it 'appears' from the image to have gone to ultra-lite profile.
The end-views of the profile look nothing like your demonstrated pieces.
I received and built mine within the last week. Mine are identical to what Barry handles in the video.
@@stoneyzamboni Thanks Alex....ordered mine along with a new 311 NRG seat.
Cockpit specifically designed for based sigma grinders
Level with the end. Otherwise known as flush
Don't we already have hundreds of these?
Dude literally skipped how many nuts you need and where they would go in the beginning. Come on, man. Either way, I'm glad your video helped. I just wished it was straight to the point
Lol, hour long review of a simple profile cockpit. Good grief.
No motion with VR, no fun. :)
No.
No just no, loll less motion sometimes is actually better