Yeah his memories a hazy when it comes to his past but thing like his desire to keep the peace and order are cemented in warwicks character and behavior. Maybe slight voice line changes that would be nice or a legendary skin with arcane interactions.
@@donhoover23 that's a good point, I never thought about that. Unless it's revealed Singed up the dose by x10 to make Warwick go completely feral, which is still possible because maybe they didn't just want to undo Viktor's work, they wanted to make sure he couldn't be fixed. That's a possibility too. I hope Warwick remembers enough memories for when he was Vander to be bittersweet instead of just hopelessly gone.
Even if it seems like the obvious answer, much like how Powder is Jinx now, and Vi had to accept that, coming to terms with it (even seeming like they'll be sisters again even though Jinx is no longer Powder), Jinx and Vi will have to accept that Vander is going to be Warwick now. Meaning they'll have to accept and live with that. Since Warwick seems to retain memories even in LOL, it doesn't seem like Vander/Warwick will be completely lost. But he'll be almost a new person with hints of Vander, instead of Vander coming back like Vi and Jinx want.
this is totally off topic but it's like the separate identities of ice king and simon (I actually wasn't huge on everyone, mainly Marcy, starting to call him Simon while he's still IK) bc he sums it up best "idk who this Simon guy is but I'm ice king and I think that's ok" (not those words exactly but you get it) the crown will take aspects of its hosts life to incorperate into its personality and what not but it's really not the host anymore
Love this video! At the end, I thought Vander’s lava rampage form was because Viktor’s death somehow affected the beast just like the people of the village having strange reactions with the ghostly screaming. It didn’t cross my mind that Singed woke up and injected poor Vander with that serum. I can’t wait to watch Act 3 and see what became of him and everyone else!
@6:55 its both. The magma was definitely singe's work. But Vander was partially healed and even had trace amounts of the face mark, but after that victors death, part of Vander died forever (as seen how fully healed ppl turned completely empty). More beast left over than man is what caused the rampage.
You're wrong one point, It's actually hidden in the lore of league of legends but Vi and Jinx have always been sisters, there's been numerous amount of easter eggs and evidence that points towards it. Only issue was that they didn't want to confirm it for either shock value or just to keep the lore mysterious.
Those flash backs where so lazy. they were trying to add emotional layers to a thing while also taking up screen time that could have been building layers elsewhere. The flashbacks needed to be cut out entirely. In fact most of how they introduced the character was awful. Because the show was built on Vanders philosophy. Of witch doesn't get to return with the character in any way. This could have been used to have Vander learn silco's opposing philosophy and arc him better.
1:32 i dissagree for one Arcane was never intended to be canon and now they are just forcing it into the main lore and they also already did a full rewrite in 2016 and they still need to update some discriptions so this will make the games lore compleatly messy
Man, Arcane is full of tragic backstories from like every character in it....
nah he ain't fully gone. warwick in-game still has memories of his past life and defends zaun from evil even though he's a pretty ruthless fighter
I hope friend, I hope so 🥲
Yeah his memories a hazy when it comes to his past but thing like his desire to keep the peace and order are cemented in warwicks character and behavior. Maybe slight voice line changes that would be nice or a legendary skin with arcane interactions.
does he defend zaun in LOL? i thought he still has the blood rage thing so anyone who bleed may be killed by him
Facts, and SInged said his serum would only but "undo Viktor's progress." Warwick recognizes Vi and Jinx even before ever seeing Viktor.
@@donhoover23 that's a good point, I never thought about that. Unless it's revealed Singed up the dose by x10 to make Warwick go completely feral, which is still possible because maybe they didn't just want to undo Viktor's work, they wanted to make sure he couldn't be fixed. That's a possibility too. I hope Warwick remembers enough memories for when he was Vander to be bittersweet instead of just hopelessly gone.
Even if it seems like the obvious answer, much like how Powder is Jinx now, and Vi had to accept that, coming to terms with it (even seeming like they'll be sisters again even though Jinx is no longer Powder), Jinx and Vi will have to accept that Vander is going to be Warwick now. Meaning they'll have to accept and live with that. Since Warwick seems to retain memories even in LOL, it doesn't seem like Vander/Warwick will be completely lost. But he'll be almost a new person with hints of Vander, instead of Vander coming back like Vi and Jinx want.
this is totally off topic but it's like the separate identities of ice king and simon (I actually wasn't huge on everyone, mainly Marcy, starting to call him Simon while he's still IK) bc he sums it up best "idk who this Simon guy is but I'm ice king and I think that's ok" (not those words exactly but you get it) the crown will take aspects of its hosts life to incorperate into its personality and what not but it's really not the host anymore
Finally, someone makes a video essay on warwick
this took surprisingly long
Love this video! At the end, I thought Vander’s lava rampage form was because Viktor’s death somehow affected the beast just like the people of the village having strange reactions with the ghostly screaming. It didn’t cross my mind that Singed woke up and injected poor Vander with that serum. I can’t wait to watch Act 3 and see what became of him and everyone else!
I wish Isha had more time to shine. The pacing of this season overall is hurting it hard imo. Definitely gonna have to do my own video on this series.
It hurts a lot to know that crying monster is the Vander we knew
In game warwick is basically Zaun Batman... just a bit more ruthless.
So Thomas Wayne Batman? Or Batman as he was originally introduced, where he had no problems killing?
I mean, I hope Arcane Warwick follows suit, but I honestly don't know if I still have hope for that
@@thomasraines1396 def thomas wayne batman
@@nasher99 interesting.
Less than 48 hours left now... We get to see what happened
LETS GO!!!
i believe in Viktor's innocence
I belive in glorious evolution
I always wonder if Vander consciousness fused with Warwick where they are together but can't be apart, which could explain how he's sapient in Arcane.
Tragic characters in arcane vs tragic characters in Undertale
I feel like the finale will be bittersweet at best.
true, arcane ain’t gonna give us anything happier than bittersweet
if you think this story has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention
I really feel for Vander/Warwick. His bio states that he’s in a constant state of pain and fury even with the bits of memories he does have
@6:55 its both. The magma was definitely singe's work. But Vander was partially healed and even had trace amounts of the face mark, but after that victors death, part of Vander died forever (as seen how fully healed ppl turned completely empty). More beast left over than man is what caused the rampage.
Singed is essentially Arcane's Mr. Freeze
9:20 yeah.....same
never thought of it this way- slay
FINALLY!
You're wrong one point, It's actually hidden in the lore of league of legends but Vi and Jinx have always been sisters, there's been numerous amount of easter eggs and evidence that points towards it. Only issue was that they didn't want to confirm it for either shock value or just to keep the lore mysterious.
Those flash backs where so lazy. they were trying to add emotional layers to a thing while also taking up screen time that could have been building layers elsewhere.
The flashbacks needed to be cut out entirely.
In fact most of how they introduced the character was awful. Because the show was built on Vanders philosophy. Of witch doesn't get to return with the character in any way.
This could have been used to have Vander learn silco's opposing philosophy and arc him better.
No
Jinx's friend Isha is pronounced as E-sha, not I-sha.
Great video.
1:32 i dissagree for one Arcane was never intended to be canon and now they are just forcing it into the main lore and they also already did a full rewrite in 2016 and they still need to update some discriptions so this will make the games lore compleatly messy
As if it wasn't messy already lol
ok
oh come on man 😭 Isha's name is said in the show there's no reason to be butchering it like this
e - sha say it w me
not eye - sha, e - sha 😭