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Top 10 Worst Classic Cards in Yugioh [Part 2: Magic Ruler and Pharaoh Servant]

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  • Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
  • In this video we'll be going over some of the worst cards from the earliest portion of Yu-Gi-Oh, this time going over cards from Magic Ruler and Pharaoh Servant, the third and fourth sets ever released to the TCG.
    -The List-
    Intro: (0:00)
    10-Final Destiny: (0:13)
    9- Darkness Approaches: (1:58)
    8-Ceremonial Bell: (2:47)
    7- Curse Of Fiend: (4:11)
    6- Bombardment Beetle: (6:00)
    5- Deep-Sea Warrior: (6:49)
    4- Performance Of Sword: (8:37)
    3-Solomons Lawbook: (10:04)
    2- Wall Shadow: (11:42)
    1- Drill Bug: (13:24)
    -----------------------------------------
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Комментарии • 812

  • @Rhino-n-Chips
    @Rhino-n-Chips 2 года назад +350

    Every time I look at old rituals, I can't help but think they actually made a mistake by not putting them in the extra deck.

    • @mrsplays9817
      @mrsplays9817 2 года назад +59

      It was the fusion deck
      Just for the fusions
      No room for rituals in there

    • @glitchedoom
      @glitchedoom 2 года назад +53

      @@mrsplays9817 Just like Ra intended.

    • @tb3411
      @tb3411 2 года назад +1

      Nice pfp

    • @prede89
      @prede89 2 года назад +29

      When rituals came out I always knew they didn’t go in the extra deck but always felt like they should. Otherwise they were pointless. How do you get the ritual magic card and the monster at the same time? Just draw into them? What are the odds of that

    • @Tomy_Lightning
      @Tomy_Lightning Год назад +3

      @@prede89 in starting hand you have 12.50 % chance of drawing one of them in starting hand with only 1 copy of each.

  • @D-Havoc
    @D-Havoc 2 года назад +514

    I really wished Konami didn't change Darkness Approaches and just create a ruling with that card because being able to flip a link monster facedown to stop it's effects would've been a game changer.

    • @RSainman
      @RSainman 2 года назад +55

      way too much logic for Konami lol

    • @BloodfelX
      @BloodfelX 2 года назад +80

      Or just being able to switch Link Monsters to defence position generally, or even just face-down by effect.
      I feel some neat ideas were lost with the abandonment of face-down Attack Position and the inability to change a Link Monster's battle position; changing a Link Monster's battle position to reposition its Link Arrows is a cool idea - even if it would have been hard to balance.
      (I mean really Link Monsters could have DEF, having the Link Rating in the place of DEF is just weird in my opinion.)

    • @christiancinnabars1402
      @christiancinnabars1402 2 года назад +26

      BloodfelX They could have easily put their link rating over their level instead of replacing their defense value. It makes sense because basically every other special monster card type apart from fusions use the level area as an indication of how to summon themselves.
      Instead Konami looked at Pendulum-era Yugioh and said: "You guys think this game's rulings are a convoluted nightmare? Bet."

    • @thangnghiem4229
      @thangnghiem4229 2 года назад

      That would be a lock to extra deck if you just flip any link monster in the extra monster zone

    • @BloodfelX
      @BloodfelX 2 года назад +5

      @@thangnghiem4229 You can flip any other monster in the Extra Monster Zone that way already (e.g. Pendulum Monsters).
      The only thing it locks you out of in the current Master Rule is summoning more Link Monsters unless you flip that monster face-up, use it as tribute/material (e.g. for a Fusion Summon) or it gets otherwise removed.

  • @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor
    @TheGloriousLobsterEmperor 2 года назад +190

    Woah, hang on. Man Eater Bug totally saw play, it was prime removal during Yugi-Kaiba format, both the Blue Eyes deck and Summoned Skull beatdown deck run 3 of the OG monster based removal.

    • @SKaede
      @SKaede 2 года назад +54

      Yeah it's the one card that everyone love and hate at the same time. When you look at old school yugioh and their ridiculous rule to bring out a ritual monster and the other bosses just throw man eater bug on the field is one big f-you to any effort.

    • @TheBlockerNator
      @TheBlockerNator 2 года назад +29

      Seriously, i swear i saw a ton of people use Man Eater Bug, at the time it was pretty much the only way to destroy monsters with an effect, i never had Raigeki or anything like that.

    • @kevinpeterson4017
      @kevinpeterson4017 2 года назад +13

      I played Ceremonial bell on the old GBA games. The CPU already knew your hand anyway so there was no drawback

    • @prede89
      @prede89 2 года назад +7

      I said the same thing. Best way to kill a Summonded Skull! Then you summon something like the genie and put some points on the board

    • @chrismiller3548
      @chrismiller3548 Год назад +2

      @@TheBlockerNator yep the only other forms of removal that wasn't limited was fissure and trap hole but they both had downsides compared to bug. Fissure only did face up with lowest atk and trap hole only worked during a summon

  • @brianaguilar8283
    @brianaguilar8283 2 года назад +516

    Wall Shadow is such a weird card, since it’s a fusion monster in the manga and anime, but an effect monster in the TCG

    • @adriannaranjo4397
      @adriannaranjo4397 2 года назад +136

      Konami has a weird history of turning anime fusion monsters into _terrible_ effect monsters

    • @sooba9627
      @sooba9627 2 года назад +53

      Same with neos wiseman

    • @brianaguilar8283
      @brianaguilar8283 2 года назад +51

      @@sooba9627 that one makes less sense, since it’s newer than Wall Shadow

    • @AlleyCatUwU
      @AlleyCatUwU 2 года назад +51

      I think the use of polymerization in that moment was an odd bit of old-school-anime-mechanics that don't actually have a place in our card game. I think they used poly to attach wallshadow to the wall of the labyrinth. Another example would be when Yugi uses poly and magic arrow (?) spells to fuse his mammoth graveyard with a two-headed blue eyes ultimate. That's not how poly works lmao
      Edit: spelling

    • @petrie911
      @petrie911 2 года назад +61

      And then there's Flame Swordsman, which is a terrible fusion monster in the TCG but is a potentially reasonable normal monster in the anime (can't remember if it's level 4 or 5 there).

  • @ITalk69
    @ITalk69 2 года назад +329

    So glad you made a sequel to the Worst Classic cards, older and more obscure cards barely get talked about.

    • @scxnlines
      @scxnlines 2 года назад +1

      Yooo

    • @traincore1955
      @traincore1955 2 года назад +3

      True but lots of people ran Man Eater bug

    • @heisla7387
      @heisla7387 2 года назад

      I Talk watches mr logs?

    • @ithriveintoxicity9877
      @ithriveintoxicity9877 2 года назад

      I mean it’s your description already “older and more **obscure** cards”

  • @petrie911
    @petrie911 2 года назад +326

    It seems like ritual monsters should have gone in the extra deck. In the anime, ritual monsters just sort of appear on the field like fusion monsters, so it's not clear why you need the card in hand for them but not for fusion. Also, this would make ritual and fusion kind of counterparts. Fusion requires specific monsters and a generic spell. Rituals require generic monsters but a specific spell.

    • @HoveringAboveMyself
      @HoveringAboveMyself 2 года назад +59

      Yeah, in the DM manga/anime rituals, like fusions, are not physical cards in your deck.

    • @MobiusLeader007
      @MobiusLeader007 2 года назад +49

      That's how my friends and I thought Rituals worked way back in the day. The original Black Luster Soldier was my boss monster. He didn't have an effect but getting out a 3000 attacker out of the blue was no joke in lunch table games. Eventually we reread the instruction booklet and figured out that Rituals go in the deck and I dropped BLS. Even in lunch table games getting all of the Ritual pieces was too much of a hassle. Switched to just discarding Blue-Eyes then using Monster Reborn.

    • @DataumCats
      @DataumCats 2 года назад +14

      they were convinced being able to special summon monsters was maybe to powerful, because apparently no one working on the game at the time knew what they were doing.
      power monsters required tributes on the field to be brought out from the hand.
      fusion monsters break that assumption by letting you effectively tribute summon from the deck as long as you draw poly as a proxy for the monster. but because you don't need to use your normal summon, the fusion card still can't be too powerful.
      a ritual monster effectively lets you tribute summon using materials in your hand, and you don't use your normal summon! to make up for that you need to also draw the ritual card to prevent you from gaining to much from the special summon.
      turns out special summoning didnt let you gain much advantage by itself. Having a boss monster and a normal summon was nbd. Especially with all the cards that would punish you for over extending, if you used it to go into two boss monsters in one turn you just lost. which meant you gained no tempo for the card advantage you spent.
      fusion ended up a little better because at least the advantage cost wasn't worse than a tribute summon..once we finally got fusion monsters that weren't worse than a two tribute monster (or for that matter, most one tributes)

    • @Bezaliel13
      @Bezaliel13 2 года назад +7

      +petrie911
      Nah, I definitely recall Yugi noting Bandit Keith needed both cards in theur duel before Battle City.
      @@DataumCats
      Weird that you started by saying they did not know what they were doing only to explain how it made sense, the Special Summons can use the hand but at a cost. I would say they screwed the pooch with Synchros powercreeping all of them, despite not using the hand.

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x 2 года назад

      @@Bezaliel13 Do you mean Bandit Keith's duel with Jonouchi? Does he Ritual or Fusion summon then?

  • @m.l.228
    @m.l.228 2 года назад +238

    Ah, Shadow wall. It's a shame this cool card is so fucked up. Should've been a fusion monster which can attack while in defense position. Would actually take the anime appearance into the tcg version of the card.

    • @brianaguilar8283
      @brianaguilar8283 2 года назад +4

      It was in the anime and manga.

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 2 года назад +25

      Konami can retrain it. They've done it on several other anime cards before.

    • @ASoulphoenix
      @ASoulphoenix 2 года назад +35

      That's the thing, they've yet to retrain any of the Paradx brother's cards to this day

    • @m.l.228
      @m.l.228 2 года назад +5

      @@ASoulphoenix yep, I hope they will retrain those cards some day.

    • @snowboundwhale6860
      @snowboundwhale6860 2 года назад +3

      Either the effect that it can attack while in defence position, or an effect to change itself to defence position (possibly the old "you can change this card into face-down defence position" effect we had a series of monsters with, in which case a flip effect/ flip summon activated effect could be added as well).

  • @thevintagevaluesexperience4302
    @thevintagevaluesexperience4302 2 года назад +46

    6:35 actually, Man-Eater Bug was a staple for the first year of the game. It only stopped seeing play when LOD was released because Exiled Force powercrept it.

  • @samfivedot
    @samfivedot 2 года назад +51

    Man-Eater Bug rarely saw play? What?! I know firsthand that card was everywhere. Granted, its usefulness did fall off as more sets came out and we started getting better removal, but in the early days everyone was rocking at least two. It's free removal of any one monster. The fact that it's a flip effect looks bad now, but flip effects were actually useful back then. It's like saying La Jinn never saw play

    • @SWAATSFan
      @SWAATSFan 8 месяцев назад +4

      He was one of the most used monsters

  • @KekusMagnus
    @KekusMagnus 2 года назад +72

    The ruling for Cruse of Fiend is so overkill. The card isn't even that good, why do they need to nerf it even harder with a ruling that is completely counterintuitive and that most players would be completely unnaware of

  • @shapesnatch1341
    @shapesnatch1341 2 года назад +81

    Love how he squeezed in the Man-Eater Bug's regarless of position joke

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 2 года назад +15

      I'm ashamed to admit that I totally missed this joke.

    • @hardcoregamer9878
      @hardcoregamer9878 2 года назад +2

      What

    • @pumpkingkingoftoons6185
      @pumpkingkingoftoons6185 2 года назад +26

      @@hardcoregamer9878 the first print of man-eater bug destroyed a monster (regardless of position)

  • @asura48
    @asura48 2 года назад +59

    Wall shadow and the whole labyrinth gimmick was fun in the anime but badly executed in the game

  • @alphabrother6823
    @alphabrother6823 2 года назад +7

    Today I learned Wall Shadow is a Warrior

  • @winkosquikalot1844
    @winkosquikalot1844 2 года назад +55

    I disagree. Man Eater Bug was quite powerful. A lot of people had it and it was one of the most feared cards in face-down defense position from the opponent.
    Adding to Parasite Paracide though, when shuffled into the opponents deck. There was also the common occurrence that if it was never drawn, both players could potentially forget it was in there and the opponent gets a free card.

    • @765craven4
      @765craven4 2 года назад +5

      If both players were playing Parasite Paracide how would you distinguish whose is whose without sleeves?

    • @PaladinKillbird
      @PaladinKillbird 2 года назад +5

      Part of my heartbreak of Yu-Gi-Oh as a kid was forgetting a playset of Parasites in someone else's deck Q.Q

  • @ExeloMinish
    @ExeloMinish 2 года назад +26

    "As seen with Nekroz (Nekroz of Unicore appears) and Drytron (HERALD OF ULTIMATENESS appears)"
    Saddest part is, I can't even disagree

  • @Dionysus24779
    @Dionysus24779 2 года назад +67

    The bell reminded me of "Eye of Truth" which was a continuous trap card which forced the opponent to play with their hand revealed, but they get 1000 LP during their standby phase if they are holding a spell card.
    It was actually a quite decent card though since it really allowed you to efficiently play your own cards to deal with bigger threats.

    • @NightmareSnake
      @NightmareSnake 2 года назад +12

      That sounds like a really good card to use in nurse burn decks actually.

    • @rookbishop7822
      @rookbishop7822 2 года назад +5

      @@NightmareSnake it was in early game but quickly fell out because the chance of your opponent having a spell in hand was rare.

    • @NightmareSnake
      @NightmareSnake 2 года назад +2

      @@rookbishop7822 Interesting. It doesn't actually seem that rare nowadays though. But I mostly play YGOPro and everyone there is using gimmicks. This strat probably just overkills Reversal Quiz decks.

  • @AnimatedIdiotGuide
    @AnimatedIdiotGuide 2 года назад +41

    I always assumed that Curse of Fiend could be used straight from your hand despite only being live during theStandby Phase. The fact that it can’t just makes even it more hilarious awful 😂

  • @DanielLee-xj9bu
    @DanielLee-xj9bu 2 года назад +7

    Hungry Burger terrible? I won't accept any slander against the best burger!

  • @janisir4529
    @janisir4529 2 года назад +42

    Final Destiny is a great Diamond Dude target.
    It has destiny in it's name, for a destiny hero? Coincidence? I think not!

    • @Hunted0LessShirt
      @Hunted0LessShirt 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, it was a pretty interesting include in that deck with things like A Feather of the Phoenix but there were other cards (even at the time) with the same effect so it wasn't special, unfortunately.

    • @selectivepontification8766
      @selectivepontification8766 2 года назад +1

      I'm pretty sure Diamond Dude decks at the time were on Mega Ton Magical Cannon and Ojama Delta Hurricane since those don't wipe your own field

  • @Firebird-he3sz
    @Firebird-he3sz 2 года назад +44

    Deepsea Warrior (and by extension The Legendary Fisherman) was made to be supported by the field spell A Legendary Ocean. It not only treated itself as Umi on the field but also reduces the level of all Water monsters in your hand by one (why it’s level 5 instead of 4), and that’s on top of a minor boost to attack/defense to all Water monsters instead of specific types of monsters.
    Yet despite all of that in early Yu-Gi-Oh!
    it was still a bad card as not only did it require a specific card on the field to summon without a tribute, due to the wording it doesn’t receive the minor stat boost of the field spell as it’s unaffected by spell cards. Hell, A Legendary Fisherman could be considered worse as it’s not only unaffected by spell cards but also has the worst battle protection I have seen (at least remember) in the game (Can’t be targeted for attack but doesn’t prevent your opponent from attacking you directly).

    • @mousaalaseel6813
      @mousaalaseel6813 2 года назад +1

      But that what make legendary fisherman invincible, and you can make a good combo with spirit barrier to get a good protection against attacks.

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 года назад +1

      I’m just posting this wherever I see a comment about DSW, i want feedback on this idea
      _Deep Sea Praetorian_ (WATER)
      Level 5
      Pendulum effect: _once per turn, when there are no monsters or field spell on your side of the field (quick effect), you may special summon one “Umi” and any number of level 2 or lower WATER normal monsters from your hand or deck to your side of the field. Once per turn, while “Umi” is on your side of the field, you may tribute one card you control; special summon this monster from your pendulum zone._
      Pendulum Scale: 0
      Aqua/pendulum/tuner/effect
      _Cannot be used as material for an extra deck summon or tribute for a tribute summon unless “Umi” is face up on the field. This monster deals piercing battle damage. When a WATER monster you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may destroy this monster instead; it is not. When “Umi” is face up on the field, this card is unaffected by opponents spell/trap effects, and effects from cards in the same column as this monster. When this monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may special summon one “Deep Sea Warrior” from your hand or deck._
      ATK/2000 DEF/2000

  • @scantyer
    @scantyer 2 года назад +55

    Wall Shadow should have been able to attack while in DEF mode but I think that was too advanced for an effect for that time period

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 2 года назад +11

      Didn't Great Defense Shogun have the Invoked Cocytus effect where it could attack using its attack while in defense position?

    • @thejamesonthestreet
      @thejamesonthestreet 2 года назад +3

      @@airtempest8945 those cards released long after Wall Shadow. I guess back in the day, being able to attack while in defense position is a bit too strong.

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 2 года назад +9

      @@thejamesonthestreet Total Defense Shogun was released only 1 year after Wall Shadow.

    • @omarortiz9660
      @omarortiz9660 2 года назад +11

      Agree. Wall Shadow whit the Defense Shogun and Shadow Ghoul effect would be a good Boss Monster in early Yugioh

    • @airtempest8945
      @airtempest8945 2 года назад +6

      @@omarortiz9660 Yeah, why doesn't it have Shadow Ghoul's effect when Wall Shadow is literally supposed to be Shadow Ghoul inside the Labyrinth Wall?

  • @solidzack
    @solidzack 2 года назад +16

    It's such a shame Final Destiny is such a forgotten card. I just really love the concept of literally nuking the entire field with an actual nuke. There should be more support cards related to it or maybe a retrain that lowers the cost and also grants an "EMP like" effect, that prevents the activation of any effects until your next turn to represent the Disturbance the Shockwave and radiation an atom explosion creates

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 2 года назад

      ENEMY EMP INCOMING

    • @ginger-ham4800
      @ginger-ham4800 2 года назад

      Final Destiny in the games Sacred Cards/Reshef of Destruction is the ultimate nuke spell. It destroyed all cards on the field *and* both player's hand for no cost whatsoever.

    • @prede89
      @prede89 2 года назад

      It was a card I always wanted to find a way to use but it’s cost was always way too high

  • @FantasyJared
    @FantasyJared 2 года назад +38

    Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think DuelLogs was actually wrong when he said Man-Eater Bug didn't see much competitive play? IIRC, it was a very popular removal tool alongside other staples such as Trap Hole, Fissure, Raigeki, and Dark Hole.

    • @Yonaforprez
      @Yonaforprez 2 года назад +8

      Yeah agree i thought man eater bug was good originally

    • @TheWrathAbove
      @TheWrathAbove 2 года назад +3

      At the bare minimum, I find it's a popular choice for retrospective play of the Yugi kaiba format.

    • @prede89
      @prede89 2 года назад +2

      He’s gotta be wrong or misspoke. I remember people summon summoned skull, you set man eat bug (or vice versa), they attack into the man eater bug, pwned. Then you put some points on the board with a genie or ox or some thing

  • @floodinmon14
    @floodinmon14 2 года назад +12

    Final Destiny actually won me a Duel in recess way back in the day. I managed to get the fuel for it by playing 2 Backup Soldiers. The turn after I used it, I stole their Blue-Eyes with Monster Reborn. it was hilarious lmaoooo. That guy was salty af. The only reason I put it in my deck was bcuz I couldn't pull the good cards like Raigeki and Mirror Force. Those cards were ULTRA Rares; u gotta work with what u have.

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 2 года назад

      it was literally impossible to not own a dark hole tho, they put it in every starter deck

  • @ryhi5
    @ryhi5 2 года назад +43

    I have thought about how fix or retrain Wall Shadow. Easy way is to make it a regular fusion monster instead of a main deck monster. But I would also give it a Superheavy Samurai effect. It can attack in DEF position using its 3000 DEF

    • @donovanlocust1106
      @donovanlocust1106 2 года назад +6

      Yeah. If it had that effect when it was first printed then maybe it would have been decent. Not amazing but usable.

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 года назад +2

      yup an also
      have it’s effect be
      shadow ghoul + labyrinth wall
      must be fusion summoned with the above fusion materials.
      *A*.)
      Once per turn, you can flip this card into face-down defense position.
      When this card attacks an opponent's monster, this card's original ATK becomes 3000 during damage calculation.
      this card cannot be targeted for attacks by your opponents monsters while labyrinth wall is face-up
      or have it be
      *B*)
      ==========================
      Once per turn: You can change this card to face-down Defense Position.
      this card can attack while in face-up defense position.If it does apply it’s defense for damage calculation.
      twice per turn,this defense position monster cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects while labyrinth wall in face-up.
      or
      *C*)
      this card is treated as both a Zombie an Rock-type monster.
      this card can attack 3 times during the battle phase
      this monster gains 100 ATK for every monster in both GY.

    • @BloodfelX
      @BloodfelX 2 года назад +3

      Heck they could have made Wall Shadow a Union Monster (if those weren't introduced later on in the game) and it would still be better than how it currently is.

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 года назад +3

      @@BloodfelX yeah have it be a fusion/union

    • @pirateraider1708
      @pirateraider1708 2 года назад +1

      It can also have the additional effect where when it's destroyed, you can special summon Labyrinth Wall in defence mode.

  • @dudebladeX
    @dudebladeX 2 года назад +42

    I love how you showed Herald of Ultimateness when saying that the best way to make Rituals good was to make then broken, and then you said Drytron as one of the examples.

    • @anti-duellinks-meta6966
      @anti-duellinks-meta6966 2 года назад +7

      Its cuz drytons make best use of the herald cards

    • @sirswagabadha4896
      @sirswagabadha4896 2 года назад +11

      I like the deadpan jokes, reminds me of the time he said the meteor in the back of some HERO card art showed that nibiru is intended as HERO support

    • @undeadwaluwugi758
      @undeadwaluwugi758 2 года назад +5

      Best way to make ritual archetypes good? Disregard the old standard of ritual summoning. Or in the case of drytrons, just completely change the mechanic.

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x 2 года назад +5

      Rituals really should have been in the Extra deck all along.

    • @dorugoramon0518
      @dorugoramon0518 2 года назад +3

      @@anti-duellinks-meta6966 Drytron is basically the only reason heralds see any play because on their own theyre bad.

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 2 года назад

    Great analysis video! Looking forward to a sequel to this series! Thanks for uploading!

  • @sugarsmile7852
    @sugarsmile7852 2 года назад +6

    About Solomons lawbooks effect if you played duel links there was a skill in duel links that let skip the standby phase to void the damage from the dark contract spell/trap,however they accidentally give you free floodgates like golden castle of strombreg
    Also another fact is if you skip the standby phase not only you skipped the cost of floodgates but also you shutdown effects that happens during the standby phase like a monster return to the field or graveyard effect that active during the standby phase like fire kings or metaphtys

    • @fredyramirez3035
      @fredyramirez3035 2 года назад +4

      Then is swords of revealing light.
      If you skip the phase in the correct turn. It will stay there forever until is destroyed in other way. Like mst

  • @chiko6484
    @chiko6484 2 года назад +6

    Would really enjoy seeing parts of this for the whole history of yugioh

  • @FrostyArca9
    @FrostyArca9 2 года назад +2

    Been bingeing through a lot of these and been enjoying them all!!
    I had a couple ideas that popped into mind as a possible topic also. One would be “Archtypes that have aged poorly with time” and a second is “top 10 speedroid cards”

  • @valence7
    @valence7 2 года назад +2

    Great video! This should become a series.

  • @FantasyJared
    @FantasyJared 2 года назад

    Perfect timing, dang! I just watched Part 1 yesterday, lol. I love this channel. ^^

  • @alexgrissom3513
    @alexgrissom3513 2 года назад +5

    I was in a secondhand store a few weeks ago and they had a section locked off in a cabinet with a stack of trading cards. The only yu gi oh card in that stack was performance of sword, for some reason

  • @username4835
    @username4835 2 года назад +16

    Darkness approaches pre-errata was one of my favorites for just breaking the game. How does a face down attack position monster work? Good luck finding out.

    • @rookbishop7822
      @rookbishop7822 2 года назад +2

      The same as a face down defense position monster lol

    • @secondslash587
      @secondslash587 2 года назад

      @@rookbishop7822 You’d think it’s that simple, but there are a lot of unanswered rulings questions that come up.
      Can a face-down attack position monster declare an attack? If yes, does a monster with an effect that says it CAN’T attack still attack while face-down? If it can, does the attack get cancelled when it’s flipped face-up during the damage step?
      What if you declare an attack with a face-down level 4 monster while Gravitybind is in play? Does the attack go through or does it cancel during the damage step when its level is revealed?

    • @fredyramirez3035
      @fredyramirez3035 2 года назад

      @@secondslash587 i guess it could be like legendary fisherman in the anime. It cannot be targeted by attacks and can attack freely.. Flip effects still applies.

  • @SpazzyJester
    @SpazzyJester 2 года назад +2

    Love your channel 😍 this suggestion has been running through my mind for years...
    Cards that wouldn't see play but would be broken if it was changed to a different type, examples: turning a trap into a spell, or a normal spell into a quick play spell, or a spell with a speed spell 4 condition
    Keep these videos going, it's a winner🏆😎👍

  • @shanewhite195
    @shanewhite195 2 года назад

    Love the vids man! Between this an your wow vids, you are my fav youtuber! The only thing I think muffs this list ( iK its "competitive" but remember 99 percent of your audience was on playground/sleepover games... Vid idea?) is the availability of these cards.

  • @sirswagabadha4896
    @sirswagabadha4896 2 года назад +6

    At this point, I really feel like it would be cool to have a video on cards like wall shadow that were absolute dumpster water in the card game but were changed to have interesting/good effects in the old video games like duelists of the roses that screwed the rules because they had...idk, something. Shadow ghoul fusing with a terrain to create a new monster was quite something

  • @chestercs111
    @chestercs111 2 года назад +3

    I think Solomon's lawbook would be cool if it was a continuous trap. Then you could play super strong traps like mirror wall and never have to pay the cost until your opponent gets rid of one of the two cards. I know it won't make it strong enough for competitive but it would make it more viable to mess around with.

  • @Gebirges
    @Gebirges 2 года назад +3

    With Ceremorial Bell you can scout your opponents hand and then use it as Link Material for some nice Spellcaster stuff

  • @creecher1118
    @creecher1118 2 года назад +5

    Top 10 Cards That Deserve Archetypes

    • @chrispambo1539
      @chrispambo1539 2 года назад +5

      Gate Guardian

    • @creecher1118
      @creecher1118 2 года назад +3

      @@chrispambo1539 Louder for the duelists in the back!!!

  • @NoteofLuck
    @NoteofLuck 2 года назад +4

    Final Destiny activated from the GY via Diamond Dude has been one of the few scrubby gimmicks I've thought about for years.

  • @TFGTrailers
    @TFGTrailers 2 года назад +1

    You really should make more videos about classic era yugioh, I really enjoy them

  • @jeremyranger4260
    @jeremyranger4260 2 года назад +5

    I'd love to see a top ten archetypes that went the longest without support! I'm sure #1 isn't volcanics!

  • @speedroidterrortop5391
    @speedroidterrortop5391 2 года назад +5

    I remember learning how to play Yu-Gi-Oh! using the GX Game Boy Advanced game, and I used Final Destiny once and lost because of it. Even my fetus duelist self knew this card wasn't it.

  • @Unit-00_
    @Unit-00_ 2 года назад

    I think a top 10 best cards from each set series would be pretty neat, and also creates a lot of content

  • @dyeager152
    @dyeager152 2 года назад

    This series is my favorite thing you’ve ever done. I am obsessed.

  • @luiginumber1
    @luiginumber1 2 года назад

    Another great video ! May I suggest a "Top 10 best Cyberse monsters" please ?

  • @B-Ran_the_Man
    @B-Ran_the_Man 2 года назад +10

    I would love to see Wall Shadow be retrained as a much stronger monster. Not necessarily playable, but just much stronger

  • @musiyevonchilla6769
    @musiyevonchilla6769 2 года назад +9

    How about a Top 10 cards which perform special summons while avoiding the special summon mechanics
    For example
    - Needlefiber does special summon a Synchro Monster but it counts as a synchro summon
    - Instant Fusion does special summon a fusion summon, but it counts as a fusion summon
    Cards like starlight road wouldnt count bc the special summon Stardust Dragon isnt treated as a synchro summon

    • @yuwonoguntur2451
      @yuwonoguntur2451 2 года назад

      tri brigade cards?

    • @musiyevonchilla6769
      @musiyevonchilla6769 2 года назад

      @@yuwonoguntur2451 they wouldnt count bc as I know the special summon of the Link Monster with the main monster effects dont treat the special summon as a proper link summon

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 2 года назад +1

      Conductor of Nephtys is the only card that does this for Rituals

  • @SuperDogma13
    @SuperDogma13 2 года назад +1

    Please do videos on the structure- and starter decks and why they are good/bad. Would be fun to watch.!

  • @SryBut
    @SryBut 2 года назад

    I have a question about Parasite Paracide.
    When it's face up, do you have to look away while shuffling? Because when I see it near the top of my deck, I would just shuffle 1 more time since it's placed face up in your deck?

  • @omarortiz9660
    @omarortiz9660 2 года назад +6

    The biggest problem whit Deepsea warrior is his immunity to all spells. I mean, lot of water monsters are 5*s because of A Legendary Ocean. The fisherman, Catapult turtle, Gigagagagigo or terrorking salmon are good whit that field. But Deepsea Warrior no, in hand it goes to 4 stars, but in the field it doest get any bonus at all

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 года назад +1

      _Deep Sea Praetorian_ (WATER)
      Level 5
      Pendulum effect: _once per turn, when there are no monsters or field spell on your side of the field (quick effect), you may special summon one “Umi” and any number of level 2 or lower WATER normal monsters from your hand or deck to your side of the field. Once per turn, while “Umi” is on your side of the field, you may tribute one card you control; special summon this monster from your pendulum zone._
      Pendulum Scale: 0
      Aqua/pendulum/tuner/effect
      _Cannot be used as material for an extra deck summon or tribute for a tribute summon unless “Umi” is face up on the field. This monster deals piercing battle damage. When a WATER monster you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may destroy this monster instead; it is not. When “Umi” is face up on the field, this card is unaffected by opponents spell/trap effects, and effects from cards in the same column as this monster. When this monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may special summon one “Deep Sea Warrior” from your hand or deck._
      ATK/2000 DEF/2000
      That’s my idea for a DSW retrain.

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 года назад +2

      Deepsea Warrior Ganley
      WATER
      level:5
      [Sea-Serpent/Effect]
      • Special Summon this card if you’ve got no face-up monsters you control.
      • As long as “Umi” is face-up on the field,this card is unaffected by your opponents spells.
      • When an opponents monster declares an attack, Tribute 2 monsters; negate the attack inflict damage to your opponent equal to the attacking monsters atk, then end the battle phase.

  • @chataclysm2112
    @chataclysm2112 2 года назад

    I love how the cards you show at 3:19 as being from ''early Yugioh'' came out six years apart from eachother

  • @azuredragoon2054
    @azuredragoon2054 2 года назад +3

    Wall Shadow (at the time) would have been fixed by having the Total Defense Shogun effect where it could attack while in defense position (like in the anime when Yugi/Joey tag dueled the Paradox Bros). Even if 1600 isn't much, being a wall that can strike back would've made it somewhat usable for the cost of bringing it out.

  • @DaakkuuYRS
    @DaakkuuYRS 2 года назад

    I'd like you to do "top 10 worst" for all boosters packs in the game. This video was great.

  • @Lugiahighway
    @Lugiahighway 2 года назад

    Love this series good job

  • @kindlingking
    @kindlingking 2 года назад +4

    I still really like Final Destiny for it's flavour. It's the last war (it's even called like that in Japanese), the nuclear war. Nobody wins, everyone loses (tho I should've also sent opponent's hand to the graveyard).

    • @sekhyhybrid6701
      @sekhyhybrid6701 2 года назад

      Infernity Players seeing Final Destiny: Hidden POTENTIAL!

  • @Rhino-n-Chips
    @Rhino-n-Chips 2 года назад +5

    I definitely think #2 should be at the top, it was hardly possible to bring out back in the day, even with luck. It's also the hallmark of the absolute butchering that can occur between anime/manga sources and the actual card game. I remember as a kid, playing against the dopey AI back on those Power of Chaos games, I managed to make a Toon and Relinquished deck work, I even kind of got Insect Queen to work (barely), but Wall Shadow and Gate Guardian were way too much for me. Shocking to think the kind of crap that got retrained, but not those two.

  • @Tahanok2
    @Tahanok2 2 года назад +1

    Even though it came out in a later set, I would have mentioned Legendary Ocean in the Deepsea Warrior section, since it seemed to be made especially for all those Lvl 5 Water monsters with effects focused on Umi. It didn't make the cards themselves that much better, but they could at least be used without going negative.

  • @cardulio8899
    @cardulio8899 2 года назад

    Can you do a top cards to return garnets to the deck ^^? Great video btw

  • @blockhearth983
    @blockhearth983 2 года назад +2

    After coming across the Attack the Moon and Mystical elf-mystical burst stream cards, I hope duellogs does a 10 top on other cards that reference the anime.

  • @TearsofaMermaid
    @TearsofaMermaid 2 года назад +3

    I've used Solomon's Lawbook in my Golden Castle of Stromberg deck.

    • @HighPriestFuneral
      @HighPriestFuneral 2 года назад

      I was looking for this comment. Thank you for validation. I did the exact same, haha.

    • @Ergeniz
      @Ergeniz 2 года назад +1

      I too, used that combo back in the day. I daresay I was one of the first (if not the first) to use it. I nicknamed it, "Tax evasion".

  • @FaeriePuck
    @FaeriePuck 2 года назад

    These classic cards videos are so fantastic, it contains the only cards I’m actually privy to.

  • @LucasTigy2
    @LucasTigy2 Год назад

    wouldn't the parasite's flip effect save it from being destroyed? or does the effect only trigger after destruction?

  • @miguel_7515
    @miguel_7515 2 года назад

    Looking forward to this series

  • @UAshton5090
    @UAshton5090 2 года назад +2

    I wonder if Solomon's Lawbook would've seen competitive play if it were a continuous trap or field spell.

    • @zad_rasera
      @zad_rasera 2 года назад +4

      Maybe a bit too broken? Imagine Castle of Stromberg without a cost. It's still not searchable, so...

    • @XerxesTheUndead
      @XerxesTheUndead 2 года назад

      It probably would have been good on D/D/D in order to not pay for Dark Contract cards

  • @martonpaz9996
    @martonpaz9996 2 года назад

    Since Waking the Dragon now exists in Master Duel, it would be nice to see a video from you listing down some good cards anyone can add in their Extra Deck to summon from its effect.

  • @shawnli4746
    @shawnli4746 2 года назад +1

    drill bug you could use to put a face up paracide on top of your deck if you managed to resolve its flip effect on your opponent's field with reverse reuse and all out attacks

  • @nine_tails137
    @nine_tails137 2 года назад

    I'm really hoping you eventually do a video on the top 10 best and worst Insect cards in the game. This include spell and trap cards BTW.

  • @godfreysneakily2802
    @godfreysneakily2802 2 года назад

    will you post the legends of runeterra review? kinda missed it because of work
    also: Top Ten Yugioh turtles

  • @philosophicaljay3449
    @philosophicaljay3449 2 года назад +1

    Honestly, Wall Shadow should have been a fusion monster that had both Shadow Ghoul's effect AND the ability to declare an attack while in defense position.

  • @aadibajpai1617
    @aadibajpai1617 2 года назад +3

    Solomon lawbook works well with a casual timelord deck. As that will prevent them from returning

  • @whit3flagwarior618
    @whit3flagwarior618 2 года назад +3

    The Hungry Burger disrespect is shameful.

  • @Ottermelon
    @Ottermelon 2 года назад

    Super glad to see Solomon's Lawbook on here - didn't even know what it did when I owned it back in the day. Good thing I wasn't missing out on much

    • @LadyVoldo
      @LadyVoldo 2 года назад +1

      It was good with mirror wall.

  • @nine_tails137
    @nine_tails137 Год назад

    3:04 I'm confused on how Skill Drain works, since the card text seems to contradict itself?
    It says it negates face-up monster effects, but then says the effects can still be activated.
    So does it stop monster effects or not? It really makes no sense?

  • @smileyface3188
    @smileyface3188 2 года назад

    Nice Video!!

  • @isssma0
    @isssma0 Год назад +1

    Wall shadow would be great if it could use its 1600 attack while in defense position. Would be a unique mechanic at the time.

  • @davidahia8311
    @davidahia8311 2 года назад

    Question: is Deepsea Warrior immune to monster reborn while Umi is on the field? The card specifies Umi must be on the field, but there is no restriction of where Deepsea Warrior should be. Likely there's a ruling on this right?

  • @180digi
    @180digi 2 года назад +1

    i'm having a lot of fun watching these videos even though i havent played ygo since 2003. i'm curious about something: are there any online games out there where one could play old school ygo, like up to pharaoh's servant but no farther? i cant even wrap my head around the modern rules but i'm curious about checking it out again.

    • @anannoyedpanda
      @anannoyedpanda 2 года назад

      I think some simulators have a goat format option.

  • @crazedsandninja
    @crazedsandninja 2 года назад +1

    In this day and age would final destiny work in a full dark world deck since they want to be discarded and sent to the graveyard?

  • @DeathInTheSnow
    @DeathInTheSnow 10 месяцев назад +1

    One thing I always want to say regarding cards with good effects with bad costs - it's done because of the rarity of the card. Final Destiny was a common card. Its effect was there to reflect that. If you're a kid playing the game where the number of packs you buy is very limited then you're not likely to have anything better. It's still not a great card, and even back in the day we knew filler when we saw it, but if nobody had pulled a Raigeki then what else could you play? It wasn't uncommon to see people buying three copies of a starter deck just to get some cards worth playing because their luck with boosters was terrible.

  • @quedolapantera7623
    @quedolapantera7623 2 года назад

    is there a link to the first part?

  • @pastellandscape4286
    @pastellandscape4286 2 года назад +1

    Dude, imagine if we get a whole bunch of random support for wall shadow, that would be kinda cool. Wall shadow and dark necrofear were my favorite monsters as a kid. Like they could give Wall Shadow the same treatment they gave Necrofear.

  • @FerdGamingAndMedia
    @FerdGamingAndMedia 2 года назад

    Does Final Destiny work with Dark World effects?

  • @rafadesantis
    @rafadesantis 3 месяца назад +1

    6:37 Man-Eater Bug was used in the 2003 World Championship in Beatdown decks.

  • @philippenkov5622
    @philippenkov5622 2 года назад

    In early days of Duel Links, there was a deck that used Last Gamble with Final Destiny and Blue eyes. After you used it, you use Beacon of White to revive a Blue Eyes and to attack as many times as needed for the win.

  • @dantejackson4773
    @dantejackson4773 Год назад

    For the #1 spot have Eradicating Aerosol ready to go. Great video though! 💯

  • @Ninja_Geek
    @Ninja_Geek 2 года назад +11

    Top 10 cards that have whole archetypes/series based on them.
    For example:
    Cyber Dragon
    Thunder Dragon
    BLS
    Dark Magician
    Dark Magician Girl
    Red-Eyes
    Blue-Eyes
    Harpie Lady
    Gaia & Curse of Dragon
    Buster Blader
    Morphing Jar
    Pot of Greed
    Trap Hole
    Mirror Force

    • @LordofBeer0
      @LordofBeer0 2 года назад

      Buster blader is a warrior dark magician which is funny since he got a full archetype

  • @thomashaasl7996
    @thomashaasl7996 2 года назад

    I have a question. Modern day yugioh cards negate "Spell" cards like like Pot Of Duality. But what about "Magic" cards like Reasoning (Magic Card) PGD-081 -58577036, or Soul Release (Magic Card) MRD-058 05758500? Since their "Magic" cards and not "Spell" cards, are they Negated via spell negate effects? Or do you have to use a omni-negate on "Magic" cards? Any ruling issues between negating "Spell" cards or "Magic" cards?

  • @solidzack
    @solidzack 2 года назад

    I used Deepsea Warrior as a one-off in my Legendary Ocean Sea Stealth attack deck on duellinks back in the day. It had its applications because it was immune to common spells like Enemy Controller while its stats didn't matter because of sea stealth attack destroying monsters at the start of the damage step

  • @greyphaqse
    @greyphaqse 2 года назад

    Dear TheDuelLogs,
    Ever since finding you channel almost 9 months ago, I've been getting back into YuGiOh and I can enjoy playing decks, and have some level of success against meta decks, without needing to spend money

  • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
    @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 года назад +3

    Deep sea warrior looks like an easy fix for a
    minimum of effort: make it level 4, make its ATK/DEF an even 1800, and have its effect be “when Umi is face up on the field, this card is unaffected be opponents spell and trap cards, and the effects of all cards in the same column as this card.”.

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 года назад +2

      Actually, here’s a more proper rework I thought of while I was working:
      _Deep Sea Praetorian_ (WATER)
      Level 5
      Pendulum effect: _once per turn, when there are no monsters or field spell on your side of the field (quick effect), you may special summon one “Umi” and any number of level 2 or lower WATER normal monsters from your hand or deck to your side of the field. Once per turn, while “Umi” is on your side of the field, you may tribute one card you control; special summon this monster from your pendulum zone._
      Pendulum Scale: 0
      Aqua/pendulum/tuner/effect
      _Cannot be used as material for an extra deck summon or tribute for a tribute summon unless “Umi” is face up on the field. This monster deals piercing battle damage. When a WATER monster you control would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may destroy this monster instead; it is not. When “Umi” is face up on the field, this card is unaffected by opponents spell/trap effects, and effects from cards in the same column as this monster. When this monster would be destroyed by battle or card effect, you may special summon one “Deep Sea Warrior” from your hand or deck._
      ATK/2000 DEF/2000

    • @jayclearmen411
      @jayclearmen411 2 года назад

      Dark Deepsea Warrior
      Level:5
      WATER
      [Sea-Serpent/Effect]
      • you control no monsters, you can special summon this card(from your hand)
      • As long as Umi is face-up on the field, this card is unaffected by the opponents spell cards.
      • When an opponents monster declares an attack: You can tribute 2 monsters; Negate the attack and inflict damage equal to the monsters attack’s and; then end the battle phase.

    • @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
      @ButFirstHeLitItOnFire 2 года назад +1

      @@jayclearmen411
      We could get a whole “Deep Sea” Archetype going with ideas like this (I mean if there already isn’t one).

  • @andrewschwarz937
    @andrewschwarz937 2 года назад

    One of my favorite videos of yours

  • @maxcheong3183
    @maxcheong3183 2 года назад

    Love what you do 🙂... I am a return player hahaha... Stopped since 2008.. there is so so much to catch up... I was wondering if you have any tip video for returning player..

  • @simonleong9282
    @simonleong9282 2 года назад

    For Final Destiny could you use it with Dark World cards?

  • @ich3730
    @ich3730 2 года назад +5

    tbf to final destiny it might be not that its too bad. The other cards are just too good. An effect like "destroy all stuff on the board" should inherently be expensive, every other card game designs such sweepers like that. But yugioh made the VERY FIRST printing of that kind of card free of cost, making any cost on that effect bad since you can get it for free since the start of the game. Same problem with pot of greed, they printed the most busted card draw in the very first year of the game, throwing away any chance of playing around with costs for draw since they already made a free version

    • @restlessheroes
      @restlessheroes 2 года назад +2

      I mean there's the destiny hero diamond dude route, where you play spells with awful costs, but busted affects to get it for free. At least it got that... and many years later, maybe discard 5 dangers to get various effects. Maybe not bigfoot or thunder birb since they also blow stuff up.

    • @DataumCats
      @DataumCats 2 года назад +1

      Card games where effects like that come with a heavy discard cost have way more draw power. konami decided early on that limiting draw power was preferable to limiting card power. Pot of greed type cards could be balanced if "discard five" was a more common cost.
      At the time it was released, "discard 5" might as well read "lose the duel". Blowing up the board doesn't let you win, it just stops your opponent from winning as much as they currently are. But if you're ever in a position where blowing up the board seems like a great idea, they're already winning by a lot. Afterwards they're still winning, just not by as much. You need more follow ups and discarding 5 ensures you have no follow ups.
      At best there's no more strategy and it comes down to whoever gets the good top deck first. In practice that favours the player who draws first, especially when final destiny was printed, and your opponent gets to draw before you do. At a minimum it would need to be a quick play spell card so you can get the draw advantage.
      Realistically any card that lets you blow up the board seeing play incentives your opponent to not over extend. They're usually going to have something left in their hand in case you blow up the board. Which means what actually happens is that you need a top deck while they still have options in hand. You haven't actually changed the game state that much
      Dark hole etc could just not exist, and Final Destiny would still not have seen play when it was released. Discard 5 was way to much for that effect before modern combo decks and the proflieration of grave yard effects.

  • @michaelalessi9437
    @michaelalessi9437 2 года назад +3

    What do you think if they made Ritual monsters go to the Extra Deck, would that make ritual summoning “better”? Or would they become like fusion monsters? Just was thinking about it 😂

  • @Lexgnzlz
    @Lexgnzlz 6 месяцев назад

    Why can't you activate Curse of Fiend from your hand? I read a comment somewhere saying that it was stated in the card's OCG text, but I translated that and I didn't see such a requirement.

  • @mrgreen3002
    @mrgreen3002 2 года назад +2

    I swear i had so many freakin hungry Burgers and Performance of the swords as a child. Ended up trading like 60ish combined to trade for a Charizard card said they were equally valuable.

  • @SuperiorGothBun
    @SuperiorGothBun 2 года назад

    It’s funny looking back at old cards and seeing how they either had to be changed due to new game mechanics, whether it leads to broken combos or not