5. Carpentry 4. Masonry 3. Plumbing 2. Electrician 1. HVAC/R Any trade is awesome to get into! But if you are focused on financial sustainability, focus on trades that are heavily involved in home improvement because both residential and commercial properties always remodel, reconstruct, and renovate their properties. Painters 🎨, Plumbers 🪠, Electricians ⚡️, HVACR 🔥/❄️ Technicians, Masons 🧱, Carpenters 🪵, Surveyors 🧭, and even Interior Designers 🏡can make bank 💵.
@@zachcoleman6287ecause of machines and people joining the industry pay for machinest and welders have gone down or market isn’t as high as it used to be. You’d have to work a lot of hours and do side jobs. *I have friends all over U.S that are welders.
I've watched a bunch of these trades that make money videos and every single one leaves out industrial trades. Millwrights, Pipefitters, industrial electricians, power systems electricians and industrial instrument and controls technicians are all great trades to get into and earn a really really good wage.
Because they see it in a entrepreneurship point of view. Usually you just can’t create your own industrial trade business. If you’re into one of those, you’ll most likely be an employee and not a business owner
yup, all those are better trades unless you want to have your own business. i would maybe omit Pipefitter though, unless you get another ticket to compliment it.
The biggest problem with the trades is finding someone to take you on. Most employers can't be bothered training people with zero experience. There isn't a shortage of people in the trades, there is a shortage of experienced people in trades.
🙃 So how would you get experience? Sounds like a stupid question but I’m fr. Especially if you don’t know anyone or really have any guys in your life who could show you things….
@@Pacific_05 It's another who you know story. There is also the option of trade school for some of them. It may seem pricey or like a major move if there is not one in your area. But the debt pales in comparison to people getting nonsense degrees. Some trades also have unions which you simply just apply to, though you may have to move.
@@legi0n47xto be an electrician you still need 8000 hours of residential and commercial work to get your journeymans license (atleast in Colorado). So even if you do school which you need still need (in Colorado) you need to do an apprentice ship. Union pays for school and so do some private business too if you do an apprenticeship
@@Pacific_05my uncle had a small company I worked at fir 3 years so that's how I started but he went bankrupt so I lost that job but recently I just googled concrete company's and called them I got a job at 15 an hour as a concrete laborer currently looking for a better paying position
It's like that in all industries they expect us to go one thousand or more in debt work for free or gets an internship or apprentice first somewhere else if course plus they got plenty of illegal aliens who will work for a third less
@@gaelssk8ingvids257Go to work for a electrical company as a helper. A lot of companies need helpers and will train you. If you think you like it, see if they have class at a community College. Don't spend a lot on a trade school. I've trained 100s of guys.
I am 40 and got into HVAC one year ago after painting for 17 years and owning a business for 10 years. I was really ready to learn something new. I was excited to hear your number one answer. I was just recently wondering what I wanted to do, if I wanted to change careers or not, I just decided I’m going to stick out HVAC follow through and push hard. I really like it, it incorporates many of the trades.
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
My dad is 43 has been doing residential/service HVAC for over 20 years, I have worked with him every summer since I was 13, I’m about to turn 18 in 2 months and also graduating in 2 months, don’t know what trade to do!!!
@@gixerson8212 if you already know that one fairly well, it would not hurt to learn another. The more you know is powerful and gives you more to fall back on. It will work out for you.
I am an hvac commercial tech. Residential hvac is fun and relatively easy. It does come with learning curves and challenges. But commercial is by far and away the most dangerous. I have had many close call, lost coworkers, and often question making the switch from residential to commercial.
Electrician hvac tech and plumber are the top 3 trades for job security, business ownership and pay . They will never be automated and only the new construction side is affected by the economy but you will always be employed as one one those three. I wish I started when I was 18 I’d be set by now
@@unknownamerican9599 dude don’t be like me I’m 27 and I should of done this after high school! Learn a trade and by the time you’re my age you’ll be well off. I’m looking to get into one of those three jobs! Good luck out there!!
Been a Diesel mechanic for 21 years. Make 90k with little overtime. The pay to start has gone up quite a bit the last few years. Gone are the days of getting yelled at and treated like crap. You don’t have to go to school to start out. I have guys making 28 hr to start as an apprentice. My work pays for your college and your kids. That was brought on by Covid and employee retention. Construction is not guaranteed. 2008 lost lots of jobs. Mechanics are job proof. Always work. We have a shortage also. No one pisses us off. Employers know we can find a job in a week.
I been in the hvac/r trade almost 40 years. I'm not a workaholic, though had I been , lots of money to be made. Never been unemployed. Just jinxed myself. But also. You would learn more than you realize. You will learn electric and piping work also maby sheet metal. My point being, in hvac you can save money by doing minor electrical and plumbing repairs around your own home. Your not a plumber or electrician, but you will learn enough not to burn your house down and change your hot water heater if needed. That's a caviot to that trade.
Yo fam. I hate working g. But it’s better den keep taken illegal risk. I was thinking of a trade I jus turned 20. But I don’t like allay handy man bob the builder shit. Ian that type of man. But I’m about money. I thought about HVAC. How is it in terms of difficulty to others? U get dirty ?
@KnotDes HI the hvac/r trade is very demanding. It's also a broad industry. I would research the trade Via u tube and try to figure where you might want to do.ie residential ,commercial and industrial. Industrial is where you might make the better hourly rate. Do you want to a service tech or installation. You can make a lot of money if you're willing to put a lot of time into it. Lots of over time ,maby after you get good experience get a Contractors license and maby start your own business. It's all up to you. The key thing is you have to like the work. Yes you can have tough days and get dirty. Also, there are control companies that specialize in building automation for hvac . That's cleaner and also challenging, but it's cool stuff. No pun intended. Good luck.
Great list of trades. Being a Welder for almost 20 years is also a great trade to get into. The pay is great especially if you have experience. Most welding jobs also have lots of overtime which is a big plus if you want to save for a car, house, etc.
My husband is an electrical apprentice (4th year) and once he gets his master license, another 2 years, we plan to open our own business. Everyone says there is so much money in electrical, but apprentices don’t get paid much! My husband works for a small business currently and drives a company van and is definitely a top earner for the apprentices in our area at 20/hour. They say average pay for a journeyman is 25/hour… but we are hoping there is more to be made
Yeah it all depends on the area for how wages are determined. In my area apprentices are making 18-26hr. Newly licensed Journeyman about 38-40/hr. Great plans ahead getting the masters and starting a business! Good luck
i'm a retired licensed plumber-pipefitter and i must say i loved my trade, i loved the variety of jobs i worked on and being around other trades guy's and gals. you can learn alot just from watching the other trades do their work and most will answer your questions if you have an issue at home with say electrical.
@@ConnorGallant plumbing and pipefitting are actually different trades with some similarities as both work with pipe, fittings etc. pipefitters usually work on different systems than plumbers, plumbers usually work mainly on potable water supply and the proper drainage of the same. pipefitters deal with hydraulics, pneumatic, hydronic as well as other types of materials. I was fortunate in that i was trained in both at the same time. I was a union trained plumber/pipefitter in a small local union that taught the apprentices two trades, sometimes more if you wanted to put in the effort. Both trades are very interesting and worthwhile to pursue. I hope that helps. Good luck.
@@jonathanklopf7581 also I hear a lot of stigma about how the trades are hard on your body do you think you could have a good long healthy career as long as you eat right, exercise, and get proper sleep?
Im a commercial plumber and if you can figure shit out and learn when youre told something once youll make a lot of $$ and ot if you want it. Plus side work and it incorporates every other trades. We're kings!!
You can become a machinist right off the street. You can get a certificate for it at most community colleges, fully paid by FAFSA, and be job ready for better pay before you graduate. The trade is in desperate need of people. Machine shops where I live are always hiring, pretty easy to work for, and pay pretty well, and its not physically taxing. If you get into programming or metrology the pay goes up even more.
Came here for this, machinists don't get mentioned in these 'trades' videos, but I made the switch from construction trades to industurial trades, and haven't looked back.
I worked as an exterior remodel helper doing windows and door installation as a teen for close to 10 years. Now here I am 5 years later at 29 and want to make what I’m worth. I currently work as a simple stocker at a local store and I’ve had enough. I outpace everyone around me and give it all and am tired of getting nothing back. I don’t have a single problem with working 6 days a week 12 hours a day and learning whatever I have to to get ahead as long as I don’t learn from someone with drinking or drug issues as in the past. What’s my first step towards a new future in any of these sectors. Drug screening and background check are no problem at all
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
You can make over 100k a year in any trade as long as you strive to run your own business . If you like hourly then simply I can give you advice for the trifecta, electrician, plumber, or hvac.
Refrigeration #1. Commercial refrigeration is great pay and we all need frozen foods or refrigerated foods. Plus you don’t have to depend on a cheap ass home owner to sell too. All grocery stores and restaurants will keep you busy all year and we need new blood. Please consider this trade. Thanks.
My dad is a jack of all trades (except welding, if that counts, and masonry) and I've come to find HVAC and carpentry to be the most fun. Right now, I'm taking a carpentry and HVAC class in high school. While HVAC is tough, it's fun. (Also just starting out, an HVAC technician makes $54K a year. Which is insane bc most of the kids with jobs at my school don't even make half of that)
@@renaisnisbett it's the physics part that's the toughest. In HVAC, you would have to know a bunch of different gasses and their pressure/temp relationship. Not too mention you need to know all the parts of a system and what they do. And then there's the electrical part of it which I hate.
I start trade school soon can’t wait to learn and I won’t have any debt when I’m finish took a 1 year break after high school go the money now I’m ready
@@Whyyoumadcuz__ Was a fisherman for a while so was always around boats. Now Im studying at a school called IYRS. Great hands on training and job placement
2 years as a crane operator- make over 100k working half the year, 2 weeks vacation but on 12hr rotating shifts. 4 days on-4.5days off then 4nights on-3.5 days off. Start it again. My biggest issue is the swing shifts and being on my ass after always being physically active. I work ZERO OT. My coworkers make 150-200k a year, I however enjoy my days off and don't spend all my money on useless stuff.
@@mattraps1 Go get your CDL then take a course in your area. They are usually about 1-2 weeks. I would start with mobile crane and a rigger certification. A lot of places will send you to training, I received mine while working in the oilfield. Call your local crane businesses and apply there as a driver/helper. Just about everywhere in the country needs NCCCO crane operators. You'll pretty much never be out of a job. Get your CDL first so you'll be much more marketable when you're starting out. Get your CDL certs as well. Doubles/Triples, Tanker, Hazmat while you''re at it. I have zero interest in being a truck driver, but it has opened up a lot of doors. Youcan make $70-$100k just doing fluid changes on heavy equipment. Lots of opportunity out there.
Another skill trade that is great during recessions . I am an autobody painter and this year I will make roughly 140k . It is safe if you wear all your ppe and it is quite rewarding when done correctly
Plumber, electrician, and plumber will aways be in demand even in a recession. I have looked at all three as a career change and the one thing that holds me back is having to climb a ladder.
@@jackjack4412 true , lol but they really are in demand. I could quit my job before Lunch time on Monday and be starting at another company the following day.
14 months to 2 years depending on the school you can get a FAA A&P license to work on aircraft. It's in high demand and if you work for a major airline you can make up to about $65 an hour after about 6-8 years. Even most of the regional airlines pay well now. If you like working overtime there are usually opportunities to make even more money. Working on helicopters pays well too, but it's harder to get your foot in the door without military experience.
@@jackjack4412 Yes, I know many A&P mechanics who have done this. I work for a regional and don't really want to move up to a major because I have high seniority and I'm getting closer to retirement. I would take a short term pay cut to move to a major and by the time I'm topped off on the pay scale I would be very close to retirement. I also don't want to move. I live in a medium size city and my airport doesn't have a lot of maintenance. Moving is one of the downsides. The regional I work for is owned by a major airline and they hire our mechanics all the time. It is very easy to get hired out of school at a regional. There are also companies like GE Aviation, Rolls Royce, Pratt & Whitney, Boeing, etc. that hire A&Ps. Quite a few community colleges have aviation maintenance programs and there are several for profit schools like Embry Riddle, National Aviation Academy, Sparta, etc.. Other downsides, especially starting out, is you will most likely be working 3rd shift. There is usually overtime. That could be a plus or a minus depending on the individual. I was told years ago that this occupation was going to be in high demand and it is now getting to that point for all the older mechanics retiring. The pandemic accelerated that and pay is increasing quite a bit.
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
I decided in 2020 I wanted to get into a trade after working various desk type jobs for years. I quit my job and moved to a new city with no connections or job leads. I landed a job as an apartment maintenance tech and spent two years learning the basics of plumbing, carpentry, electrical, hvac, etc. felt confident enough to apply for dedicated hvac tech jobs in fall of 2022. Last year was my first full year in hvac service/sales and made just over 100k, made another 10k trading crypto round the clock. I’m definitely in the top 20% for pay in this market but could reasonably do 120k this year.
@@adridzzz80 he can potentially say 80k-100k but ask him if he has to save wisely when people get laid off or work dies..those 80k can easily become 40k if you only worked 8 months of the year
Ive been doing hvac for 1 year so far making 20$ an hour about to get a raise to 22$ an hour its an amazing trade lots of opportunities in hvac and lots of money
@@jeffsmith7840 I just got my 01 licence in Washington would you recommend me switching to lineman for the overtime potential I don't have anything holding me down so I want to hustle overtime
@@davi-un7ku idk what your doing currently but if you don’t have the potential to make six figures base pay make the move. Lineman in general make six figures base nearly everywhere in the country. Did you check your locally utility or union hall yet?
yeah plumbing is crazy in PA right now. Roto-rooter is hiring plumbers right now for 100k starting. Really been thinking about getting into that, but I've found as a truck driver it's hard to just up and switch careers to construction.
Ive been a truck driver owner operator for last 14 years the industry has taken so much of a nose dive im looking to get into a good Trade back in 2021 I went to school for HVAC and graduated but I never went to take my EPA 608 exam so im planning on studying and taking the exam and getting on with someone who train me as an apprentice.
@@ewirt71epa 608 isn't that bad it's only 100 questions multiple choice try to find somewhere to take it ie. A supply house that will let you use open book
Roto rooter is a scam. I been down that road. They say you can make 100k. What they don’t tell you is they start you around minimum for the training period, after that you’re 100% commission. That means you only get paid if you sell services. If you don’t sell anything, well, you go home empty handed that day. I met some of the scummiest people in that company. The guy that was ‘training’ me literally told me he doesn’t care about helping people he only cares about the money. He was on the phone with another technician bragging about upselling a customer $800 for a part that only costs $50. He also convinced a customer to pay over $1000 for a repair that he didn’t even know how to do. He told the customer we were going to the hardware store to get the parts, while we were driving he pulled the van to the side of the road and went on “RUclips university” to learn how to fix it. So much for being a professional. Oh, and they have a standard price list for services. Somebody called us in to fix a toilet, it needed a new flapper, the tech told him roto rooter charges $650 for that, which is true. Customer said a new toilet would only cost me $200. We left empty handed. I left before the first week was up.
Highest paid trade across the country is a union pipefitters and plumbers. Commercial and industrial work no cheap residential United Association of pipefitters & plumbers we're the most respected trade on the job
@@adridzzz80 I have about 8 years experience and I do flatbedding on a dedicated account. I drive for Werner. I previously was on the same account with UPS and jumped over to Werner when they took over the account.
Been a farrier for over 30 years. Six figures and done by noon everyday. It’s hard work but once your body gets accustomed to it and you learn to relax under a horse, it is much easier. But problem if you are in a high density horse area, the burnout rate is high. Stick to CA, TX, FL, and NY for the highest pay. Pace yourself. You want to finish the marathon, and not be the fastest in a 5 k race.
Our family friend just got an apprenticeship out of high school to work for my grandfather's HVAC company. Starting off around $15/hr but now at $22. I used to work 2 summers there with $9.50 but I was 16 and 17 years old and only helped around the shop. Thought about going there after high school but I realize I like the boating industry more!
One thing I've never been any good at, you have to be competitive, and somehow on the inside track, and you keep on stepping and stepping up until you finally get a good paying job in any of the trades. Starting out, you're going to get a demanding job that nobody else wants, for the barest minimum pay to keep you there. And if you don't know how to compete, you'll be there forever. Some people have a natural talent to know where the better jobs are, and how to get one. Other people don't. I was one of them
No you;re not alone. I mean any job where you're employed by someone is boring and depressing to an extent. Its all about self employment / creating your own business.
Trades can be depressing..i didnt want to be in a trade in high school everyone wants to be an athlete making it to a big team, doctor , music creator, automotive mechanic etc etc. Trades are usually new people in the country, drug/alc abusers, or people with felonys..the stress is big..but once you get used to it you work alone and you get to shine on your own.. Yeah it would be nice to work at target upfront and make 2gs a week without doing much but thats now how the world works
hey, just had a quick question, im looking into starting a plumbing career. east wick college wants to charge me 21k for a 18 month program that puts you into an aprentenceship afterwards. do you think this program is worth 21k??
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Hell no, look in your local area for companies that are hiring lvl 1 apprentices and apply with a real good cover letter. Do the classic “let me work for you for 2 weeks for free” pitch and I guarantee you’ll have at least 1 taker. (No one’s going to pass up free workers although this may not work at a larger bureaucratic company). Hope u make a good impression and as soon as they hire you, book your lvl1 of schooling which will be significantly less that 21k. The whole point in my opinion of an apprenticeship instead of some degree is to dodge spending stupid money on schooling.
I am an appliance repair tech with 6 years in the field, small trade that not many people know about, but good money, it is not too hard on the body comparing to other trades, mostly work inside. the field will teach you about electricity, water, and refrigeration. Now I work in the commercial field and make 88k per year without counting OT. my advice to the newbies. 1 -just get start somewhere first, don't think too much about the money for the first year or two, this is where you learn and hone your skill, the money will come once you have the skills. 2 - be willing to start in the small trade... when I first started, some of my peers didn't really think much of my trade, calling it "small", they all applied and wait for HVAC and electrician companies to take them in, but it never happened, now I am a journeyman and they are still working in the warehouse whining about things like society didn't give them a chance.
Go to your local trade school and they will let you check out the class & talk to the instructor . You’ll get to see firsthand what they’re doing and figure out if it’s something you might want to do without having to sign up for anything.
@@jvinclarence3977 welding isn’t hard and a skill that can be learned in a matter of weeks if one properly applies oneself. Underwater welding presents different circumstances and physics
I left the trades because it pays trash and has no benefits. People drive 1.5 hrs to make 40-50k in the trades where I'm at. I left to go work in a warehouse and make 65k with benefits. Plus I know where I'm at every day, my hours are consistent, I don't have to drive in to work just to find out can't work for the day, and I don't have to use my vehicle for the companies benefit. Even PM's and estimators only made 60-70k and they are salary so their per hour gets low real quick. Even CDL dump truck drivers barley make over 20hr and are often laid off in the winter.
@Zacadelic Trex. I make 24.02 hr (55,000 base pay)+(2400 attendance bonus) then add a few days of OT. Work weeks 36/48 12hr days. This is on the lower end around the area for warehouse but the other places make 7 day work weeks mandatory, 12hr shifts as well. I still have two more positions I can move up before changing job titles. Typically I tag or stack boards, sometimes box up pellets. For the most part it's easy money. I maybe do about a fourth the amount of effort as I did in construction. The problem with construction is everyone and their brothers thinks they can do it because they can pick up a hammer, which drives down labor cost because there's a surplus.
Location is important. Everything changes once you master your trade and start your own business. In 2020 my brother was making 30$ an hour doing drywall with 6 years of experience. In 2021 his boss retired and he started his own company. Now he charges 70$ an hour, has 3 full time employees, and uses subcontractors. In 2022 he made over 1 million dollars.
@Casey Nelson that's gross not net. Second the 70hr is for small jobs not large jobs. But the going rate for labor and materials around me is about 50-60 a 12' sheet. Then you still have to work outside the working hours because you have to do estimates, paperwork, bills, etc. Then what about benefits does he provide boots, prescription safety glasses, gloves, 401k, medical and dental, tools, more than one week vacation, sick pay?
I was a elevator mechanic 20 years ago now retired at that time I was making over $40 per hour as far as I know the are now making close to the $60 per range
I have a construction supervisors license (carpenter builder) in MA and I left the trade because I couldn’t make it. Nobody wanted to pay. Most people would only pay per hour and you can’t make a living working per hour. You do one job for a week charging $50 an hour the the next week you have no work. Chasingmoney, chasing materials and you can never find help and if you do they know nothing and want $30 an hour.
@@chiefhere1968 I make a great living for my family now without all the headaches. Thank you for your insult. I’m sure this makes you a better person than I am. I hope I helped your ego.
Electricians, especially Resi's are severely underpaid. Owning your own electrical business is hugely profitable but working in the trade for at least 5 years to get your Journeyman card? you're gonna be making dirt. Electrical is about to hit the point where companies are just going to disappear. I've hopped a couple of companies and they're all stuck in the past. Disposable people, underbid jobs, now is the time to school but not to work in the field. Now if you got in with a union? oh yeah, union apprentices and electricians make bank and they're about to be the only ones left. I'm really surprised you didn't mention Low voltage/data/telecomm. It's a little less than HVAC but HVAC especially commercial service there is no work life balance. Structured cabling, fire alarm, access control, make DOUGH.
@AD4 Pretty much, don't get me wrong there are still a couple of good contractors out there, but not many. Depending on the union you can get over $30/hr apprenticing which is unheard of in the private sector.
@@bazzleblades6331 Only way you will make money in electrician is union like you said. i seen jobs paying $12 hr lol but your not guaranteed to get into the union though , you can keep trying and trying but you can still not get in. How about residential plumbing ? do they make money or residential HVAC?
All I see are non natural born citizens pulling low voltage cable on residential and commercial jobs. Greengo wins the bid but pays under table for labor. Steer clear.
It deff will , you can work for carrier . Or even better you can work as an HVAC tech with whoever has the facilities contract on a base . They pay prevailing wage so you’ll start at around 75K , where are you located I can probably help you out , i was a chief warrant officer CW3 myself
I traded profitably on my Demo account but when I invested in my life trading account I lost all my funds. Please I need an expert to assist me with my trading 🙏 it's really frustrating how people losses their funds trying to trade by themselves, I feel so bad 😢
I will advice you stop trading on your own if you keep losing, if you can, then get a professional to trade for you, I think that way your assets are more secured.
Just based off indeed in my city, it seems like there is the most demand for plumbing technicians and at the highest starting salaries too. Electricians and HVAC have solid opportunities starting out too.
Thinking about hvac but I’m in Orlando and seeing most of them get paid 20-25 has me nervous, I make 45-55k a year serving tables 30 hours a week but it’s not always steady
Specialize in refrigeration and you will see up wards 30 an hour as a full blown tech. Master it after 2-5 years and you can name your price 45 an hour or more
I run a successful roofing company and the demand for a good crew is through the roof. (No pun intended.) Besides some of the employees you'll run into who suffer from alcohol and drug abuse I find it an easy business to run once you learn the trade. I get around 50% profit on most jobs.
@@jackjack4412 worked for another company, learned how to manage crews and started doing small repair jobs on the side. Saved up to buy a van and tools got a lot of word of mouth from my repairs.
@@jackjack4412 10 years but I started young and stuck with it. Didn't take it seriously my first 5 years mostly partied and spent all my hard earned money on bs. You can learn the trade and business side of it in 1-2 if you show up everyday and ask the right questions. I had my dad as a good mentor but you can learn a lot online as well. If you're getting into roofing remember you're working at heights everyday, working outside in different weather conditions. Safety is always number one priority. A solid crew of honest guys goes a long way. Funding the business is the easy part you can get started with very minimal (tool belt with hand tools, air compressor, gun, ladder) which I recommend buying everything used to start with and as you progress buy what you need. The demand is there for good roofers. If you're new go out and work for a good crew try and stay away from alcoholics and drug addicts because there's lots of them. The right crew and leader will teach you how to do everything right and if you don't rush it you'll pick it up as you go. Just take your time. Maybe you'll find a coworker who would be interested in partnering up in business. I certainly wish I had one at times. Sure it's half the profit but its a lot easier to grow.
@@jackjack4412 anybody and youll see it from people being new to the country they jump on a trade work for 5 years in 5 years either they become bosses or crew leaders..also when you run a business for everything and everyone the first 5 years will be rough
Ex marine with that background would def help with hvac hott attics tight spaces but heres the most important to have mental strength alot of times your ganna want to quit or your tired of think and thinking that you get weak for that moment you cannot give up..if they hired you to come fix their ac you must do it..itll be embarrasing to quit pick up and have someone else pickup the race and win easily
that would take you at least 20 years to get to that point, then you can make 150k easy, because you will manage, or own your own company and make even more.
Im graduating high school next year. I have the grades and academics to go to college and pursue countless careers, but I do not want to be stuck behind a desk my entire life. Im seriously considering trade school but I have fears about getting stuck in a low end job and missing out on opportunities I would have had going to college, I need to make this decision soon, and Im leaning towards trades but I fear I wont become as successful as these 100k dollar salary guys and will let down myself and my family, Im just looking for any advice from people with possibly similar experiences.
Bro I graduated in 2020 and was in the same problem. It was last year when I dropped out of Georgia Southern University to go to a trade school for welding. It’s so easy and definitely worth the money. I’m only 21 and the company I work for is elite I make around $75k a year and that’s only with barely a year of experience. I’m pretty sure once you get settled in it you’ll be making close to $100k easy. My friend went in the same time I did but he went for plumbing and he makes the same if not more than me😂. I probably should’ve went into plumbing but the con of plumbing is that they work in more precarious situations and welding is pretty more laid back. But they are both great for money. I wanted to be an aerospace engineer 💀 but the homework and studying just was wayyyyy too much. Don’t be scared of a trade bro it’s almost like a guaranteed job.
@@wckdaintgood yo bro please answer I’m in ga as well looking for a good trade what’s the place called where u went to become a welder I appreciate it man really if u respond
@@Leosdoingit I went to this school called Southern Crescent Technical College and they offer a lot of trade courses. I’m pretty sure every small technical college in Ga offers trade courses like welding, plumbing, etc. I was about to go to this trade school in Atlanta called Lincoln College but with me choosing Southern Crescent, I actually got paid for going there bc it was so cheap. I got $3200 at the end of each semester 😂. But yea any small technical college near you should have the courses, you don’t have to go to a university for it. Just check up with whatever school you’re looking into bc I know some schools don’t offer certain trades so just double check.
I’m about to turn 27 in a month and wondering if I’m too late to start a trade as an apprentice or even go to school for x amount of years to learn the trade then x amount of years as an apprentice. Basically just have 4 years of Military experience and about 2 years of epoxy coatings
Which do you think will be the fastest turn around between HVAC, Electrical and plumbing? I think the hardest one to master is plumbing since I believe you have to work so many years under a master plumber before you even can get a license, HVAC I think all you need is a certification and not so much the experience or hours I’m I correct?
Thank you for this video! Well done! I see so many new homeowners believe that skilled trades pay minimum wage, but are shocked when they get charged $90+/Hr for a plumber, Lol. A sub-specialization in your skilled trade will get you more money, than a highly specialized tradesmen. For example: Electricians who work only on residential properties are limited, but an electrician with a skill set in automation will get paid much more money due to very high demand to implement new technologies and design!
@@Yhgdsts765 Not surprised one bit, as I myself work as an automation and controls electrician. My buddies who work the skilled trades (i.e.: HVAC tech) can easily charge $150/Hr for their work. Especially for commercial refrigeration, very few people actually know how those things work, so you can easily charge extra $$$.
@@alexsmith-ob3lu No, it doesn't. A w-2 residential electrician in any area makes less than a commercial or industrial electrician of any type working the same hours in the same area.
much respect to HVAC Trade Im a pretty well educated guy and HVAC School kicked my but. I did graduate in top of my class in 2021 still have to take my EPA exam HVAC is very comprehensive.
Just a few more years at my factory. I get paid good but I’m interested in wastewater or diesel tech. Apprentice for waste water starts at 29.26 with grade 1 certificate is nice. Might start school next coming August 🤔
Welding is another high paying trade that you can make a great living, right out of school, or a decent living going to work for a welder or fabrication company without any sort of experience and learn as you go to work every day.
Any advice for getting a job like you mentioned without experience. I have construction experience which could show I work hard ect.. but nothing to do with welding
I’m currently living in Canada and I’m looking for trade to get in . But I found Plumbing is bit easy for get in other than Electrical industry. Any ideas about getting into plumbing
This is based on housing market. If you want to make real good cash inflow go into infrastructure civil construction. When your doing houses as the primary work you'll be at the mercy of what the home owner can afford. If you think home owners don't care more about how much it will cost over the fact that you are a legit contractor watch the how fast a employee will do a side hussle. These employees can't do that in civil infrastructure work to many government agencies involved.
You can either just apply for a job, go through the local union of whatever trade you’re trying to get into and they can help set you up with an apprenticeship, or you can do what I did and go to a trade school. Best decision I ever made was learning a trade. 😌
@@cmahessetrade did you get into and how long was your trade school. I absolutely cannot do white collar work. It's too boring and fake I can't do it. Blue collar work seems right for me I just am 21 and don't really know where to start tbh. I want to get my life good though. What do you recommend tbh. I would greatly appreciate any advice.
@@elcocaino8728 Google trade schools near you and look at the programs they offer. I did cnc machining which was 6 months long, but there are so many to choose from. They even helped me to get financial aid
I'm a Army veteran. Can you connect me with you marine veteran friend in California who does HVAC? What's his contact info? I have some questions. He'd be happy to hear from another veteran.
I am 29 years old, been in sales all my life fucking hated it. A week on Monday I am starting an adult joinery apprenticeship specialising in shopfitting that I got by sheer luck/fate, I started an joinery apprenticeship when i was 16 and I fucked it up completely due to being inmature, drink and being a general fuck up. I am really nervous but will do everything to make this work and I can't wait for a fresh start.
5. Carpentry
4. Masonry
3. Plumbing
2. Electrician
1. HVAC/R
Any trade is awesome to get into! But if you are focused on financial sustainability, focus on trades that are heavily involved in home improvement because both residential and commercial properties always remodel, reconstruct, and renovate their properties.
Painters 🎨, Plumbers 🪠, Electricians ⚡️, HVACR 🔥/❄️ Technicians, Masons 🧱, Carpenters 🪵, Surveyors 🧭, and even Interior Designers 🏡can make bank 💵.
I agree these are the top 5 trades but I believe electrician makes more than HVAC being electricians do a lot more easily on a new construction
Welding?
@@zachcoleman6287ecause of machines and people joining the industry pay for machinest and welders have gone down or market isn’t as high as it used to be. You’d have to work a lot of hours and do side jobs. *I have friends all over U.S that are welders.
Nice!
Is it too late for someone who’s 40 to start a trade?
I've watched a bunch of these trades that make money videos and every single one leaves out industrial trades. Millwrights, Pipefitters, industrial electricians, power systems electricians and industrial instrument and controls technicians are all great trades to get into and earn a really really good wage.
Nobody ever mentions arborists either ☹️
Because they see it in a entrepreneurship point of view. Usually you just can’t create your own industrial trade business. If you’re into one of those, you’ll most likely be an employee and not a business owner
yup, all those are better trades unless you want to have your own business. i would maybe omit Pipefitter though, unless you get another ticket to compliment it.
instrument and control tech are a bitch to get into
@@luisvilla799 you pretty much need to do a year of foundational studies in that, then jobs are easier to get.
The biggest problem with the trades is finding someone to take you on. Most employers can't be bothered training people with zero experience. There isn't a shortage of people in the trades, there is a shortage of experienced people in trades.
🙃 So how would you get experience? Sounds like a stupid question but I’m fr. Especially if you don’t know anyone or really have any guys in your life who could show you things….
@@Pacific_05 It's another who you know story. There is also the option of trade school for some of them. It may seem pricey or like a major move if there is not one in your area. But the debt pales in comparison to people getting nonsense degrees. Some trades also have unions which you simply just apply to, though you may have to move.
@@legi0n47xto be an electrician you still need 8000 hours of residential and commercial work to get your journeymans license (atleast in Colorado). So even if you do school which you need still need (in Colorado) you need to do an apprentice ship. Union pays for school and so do some private business too if you do an apprenticeship
@@Pacific_05my uncle had a small company I worked at fir 3 years so that's how I started but he went bankrupt so I lost that job but recently I just googled concrete company's and called them I got a job at 15 an hour as a concrete laborer currently looking for a better paying position
It's like that in all industries they expect us to go one thousand or more in debt work for free or gets an internship or apprentice first somewhere else if course plus they got plenty of illegal aliens who will work for a third less
Been an electrician for 7 years now finally got my journeyman’s license money is super great! Yes it’s dangerous but I love it!
Did you go to trade school looking into being a electrician
@@gaelssk8ingvids257Go to work for a electrical company as a helper. A lot of companies need helpers and will train you. If you think you like it, see if they have class at a community College. Don't spend a lot on a trade school. I've trained 100s of guys.
Are you talking about the west coast and the east coast? Why hell if you aren't making 6 figures, you will be homeless.
@@gaelssk8ingvids257did u end up going to trade school?
I am 40 and got into HVAC one year ago after painting for 17 years and owning a business for 10 years. I was really ready to learn something new. I was excited to hear your number one answer. I was just recently wondering what I wanted to do, if I wanted to change careers or not, I just decided I’m going to stick out HVAC follow through and push hard. I really like it, it incorporates many of the trades.
I am 22 in HVAC/trade school, an soon to become an apprentice i wish you the best in your career!
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
My dad is 43 has been doing residential/service HVAC for over 20 years, I have worked with him every summer since I was 13, I’m about to turn 18 in 2 months and also graduating in 2 months, don’t know what trade to do!!!
@@gixerson8212 if you already know that one fairly well, it would not hurt to learn another. The more you know is powerful and gives you more to fall back on. It will work out for you.
I am an hvac commercial tech. Residential hvac is fun and relatively easy. It does come with learning curves and challenges. But commercial is by far and away the most dangerous. I have had many close call, lost coworkers, and often question making the switch from residential to commercial.
Electrician hvac tech and plumber are the top 3 trades for job security, business ownership and pay . They will never be automated and only the new construction side is affected by the economy but you will always be employed as one one those three. I wish I started when I was 18 I’d be set by now
I’ll take your advice on it because I turn 18 in 2 weeks and my job doesn’t pay me enough to do what I do
@@unknownamerican9599 dude don’t be like me I’m 27 and I should of done this after high school! Learn a trade and by the time you’re my age you’ll be well off. I’m looking to get into one of those three jobs! Good luck out there!!
Definitely add elevators into that mix.
@@rickjames4031 na bro that career has to many ups and downs 😀
Same here I bummed out and I’m turning 21 in a few months now but it’s like they say
Better late than never
Been a Diesel mechanic for 21 years. Make 90k with little overtime. The pay to start has gone up quite a bit the last few years. Gone are the days of getting yelled at and treated like crap. You don’t have to go to school to start out. I have guys making 28 hr to start as an apprentice. My work pays for your college and your kids. That was brought on by Covid and employee retention. Construction is not guaranteed. 2008 lost lots of jobs. Mechanics are job proof. Always work. We have a shortage also. No one pisses us off. Employers know we can find a job in a week.
What city are you on ?
@@rudelimit12 Beaverton Oregon
@@mikethemechanic7395 Keep up the good work.
you hiring? =]
Diesel apprenticeship? Do you guys have/need a union or you just need your certification?
I been in the hvac/r trade almost 40 years. I'm not a workaholic, though had I been , lots of money to be made. Never been unemployed. Just jinxed myself. But also. You would learn more than you realize. You will learn electric and piping work also maby sheet metal. My point being, in hvac you can save money by doing minor electrical and plumbing repairs around your own home. Your not a plumber or electrician, but you will learn enough not to burn your house down and change your hot water heater if needed. That's a caviot to that trade.
Yo fam. I hate working g. But it’s better den keep taken illegal risk. I was thinking of a trade I jus turned 20. But I don’t like allay handy man bob the builder shit. Ian that type of man. But I’m about money. I thought about HVAC. How is it in terms of difficulty to others? U get dirty ?
@KnotDes HI the hvac/r trade is very demanding. It's also a broad industry. I would research the trade Via u tube and try to figure where you might want to do.ie residential ,commercial and industrial. Industrial is where you might make the better hourly rate. Do you want to a service tech or installation. You can make a lot of money if you're willing to put a lot of time into it. Lots of over time ,maby after you get good experience get a Contractors license and maby start your own business. It's all up to you. The key thing is you have to like the work. Yes you can have tough days and get dirty. Also, there are control companies that specialize in building automation for hvac . That's cleaner and also challenging, but it's cool stuff. No pun intended. Good luck.
@@frankstalteri972 commercial. But non of this shi interests me. All tha trades boring asl to me but that’s the best paying work I see
@@4Gway OK. Keep searching.
@@4GwayI’m 18 and I’m in the same boat as u bro. u thought about being a barber?
Great list of trades. Being a Welder for almost 20 years is also a great trade to get into. The pay is great especially if you have experience. Most welding jobs also have lots of overtime which is a big plus if you want to save for a car, house, etc.
My husband is an electrical apprentice (4th year) and once he gets his master license, another 2 years, we plan to open our own business. Everyone says there is so much money in electrical, but apprentices don’t get paid much! My husband works for a small business currently and drives a company van and is definitely a top earner for the apprentices in our area at 20/hour. They say average pay for a journeyman is 25/hour… but we are hoping there is more to be made
Damn thats kinda low pay for the amount of time put into
I struggled with this as well. I keep hearing how it's in demand but no one is willing to pay or train/hire in my area. It's odd.
@@TheOnlyMalachi agreed!
@@gilbert3579 exactly! We will see how it turns out
Yeah it all depends on the area for how wages are determined. In my area apprentices are making 18-26hr. Newly licensed Journeyman about 38-40/hr.
Great plans ahead getting the masters and starting a business! Good luck
i'm a retired licensed plumber-pipefitter and i must say i loved my trade, i loved the variety of jobs i worked on and being around other trades guy's and gals. you can learn alot just from watching the other trades do their work and most will answer your questions if you have an issue at home with say electrical.
In your experience are most workers plumbers before pipefitters ?
@@ConnorGallant plumbing and pipefitting are actually different trades with some similarities as both work with pipe, fittings etc. pipefitters usually work on different systems than plumbers, plumbers usually work mainly on potable water supply and the proper drainage of the same. pipefitters deal with hydraulics, pneumatic, hydronic as well as other types of materials. I was fortunate in that i was trained in both at the same time. I was a union trained plumber/pipefitter in a small local union that taught the apprentices two trades, sometimes more if you wanted to put in the effort. Both trades are very interesting and worthwhile to pursue. I hope that helps. Good luck.
@@jonathanklopf7581 would you say it would be easier to have your own company as a plumber?
@@jonathanklopf7581 also I hear a lot of stigma about how the trades are hard on your body do you think you could have a good long healthy career as long as you eat right, exercise, and get proper sleep?
@@jonathanklopf7581how can I find unions / companies in my area and state ?
Im a commercial plumber and if you can figure shit out and learn when youre told something once youll make a lot of $$ and ot if you want it. Plus side work and it incorporates every other trades. We're kings!!
I’m a certified crane operator. Sitting in a box all day is all fine and dandy until you start thinking about life. Now I’m here.
but you are saving wear and tear on your body. just make sure you are getting enough exercise on your off-time to stay healthy.
I heard yall get paid nice is it true?
@@mikeinnator3360yes
You can become a machinist right off the street. You can get a certificate for it at most community colleges, fully paid by FAFSA, and be job ready for better pay before you graduate. The trade is in desperate need of people. Machine shops where I live are always hiring, pretty easy to work for, and pay pretty well, and its not physically taxing. If you get into programming or metrology the pay goes up even more.
Thats what my husband does.
I'm a high end CNC programmer, milling and turning. Just hired on at a place making firearms parts, $48/hour and good benefits.
A little overtime and I'm at $110k
Came here for this, machinists don't get mentioned in these 'trades' videos, but I made the switch from construction trades to industurial trades, and haven't looked back.
I worked as an exterior remodel helper doing windows and door installation as a teen for close to 10 years. Now here I am 5 years later at 29 and want to make what I’m worth. I currently work as a simple stocker at a local store and I’ve had enough. I outpace everyone around me and give it all and am tired of getting nothing back. I don’t have a single problem with working 6 days a week 12 hours a day and learning whatever I have to to get ahead as long as I don’t learn from someone with drinking or drug issues as in the past. What’s my first step towards a new future in any of these sectors. Drug screening and background check are no problem at all
There’s a lot of drinking and drug issues within blue collar jobs buddy
Try to find a construction company that works at your local military base 👍👍
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
My wife's cousin makes 150k a year working construction on high rises.....
@@notsure1350what is she specialized in?
You can make over 100k a year in any trade as long as you strive to run your own business . If you like hourly then simply I can give you advice for the trifecta, electrician, plumber, or hvac.
Refrigeration #1. Commercial refrigeration is great pay and we all need frozen foods or refrigerated foods. Plus you don’t have to depend on a cheap ass home owner to sell too. All grocery stores and restaurants will keep you busy all year and we need new blood. Please consider this trade. Thanks.
Thats what I do. Its crazy good opportunity. And youre home with the family each night. On call is wild though, I will say that lol
How to get into commercial refrigeration
And love when you get free food😂
@@hunterhill1013hey bro can we talk I’m in HVACR I have some questions
I been doing resi HVAC for 3 years and it's dam near impossible to get into refrigeration without experience that's where Im stuck at fml
My dad is a jack of all trades (except welding, if that counts, and masonry) and I've come to find HVAC and carpentry to be the most fun.
Right now, I'm taking a carpentry and HVAC class in high school. While HVAC is tough, it's fun. (Also just starting out, an HVAC technician makes $54K a year. Which is insane bc most of the kids with jobs at my school don't even make half of that)
Just curious. Why is HVAC considered tough?
@@renaisnisbett it's the physics part that's the toughest. In HVAC, you would have to know a bunch of different gasses and their pressure/temp relationship.
Not too mention you need to know all the parts of a system and what they do. And then there's the electrical part of it which I hate.
I start trade school soon can’t wait to learn and I won’t have any debt when I’m finish took a 1 year break after high school go the money now I’m ready
Just started school to be a marine electrician. Theres a massive shortage of skilled marine e techs and I couldnt be more excited
How did you get in that?
@@Whyyoumadcuz__ Was a fisherman for a while so was always around boats. Now Im studying at a school called IYRS. Great hands on training and job placement
2 years as a crane operator- make over 100k working half the year, 2 weeks vacation but on 12hr rotating shifts.
4 days on-4.5days off then 4nights on-3.5 days off. Start it again. My biggest issue is the swing shifts and being on my ass after always being physically active. I work ZERO OT. My coworkers make 150-200k a year, I however enjoy my days off and don't spend all my money on useless stuff.
How do you get into something like a crane operator??
How did it take to get that certification and where do you even start?
@@mattraps1 Go get your CDL then take a course in your area. They are usually about 1-2 weeks. I would start with mobile crane and a rigger certification. A lot of places will send you to training, I received mine while working in the oilfield. Call your local crane businesses and apply there as a driver/helper. Just about everywhere in the country needs NCCCO crane operators. You'll pretty much never be out of a job. Get your CDL first so you'll be much more marketable when you're starting out. Get your CDL certs as well. Doubles/Triples, Tanker, Hazmat while you''re at it. I have zero interest in being a truck driver, but it has opened up a lot of doors. Youcan make $70-$100k just doing fluid changes on heavy equipment. Lots of opportunity out there.
There's different kinds of crane operators. Tell us more
Another skill trade that is great during recessions . I am an autobody painter and this year I will make roughly 140k . It is safe if you wear all your ppe and it is quite rewarding when done correctly
Do you have your own business??
I also hear autobody painter repair make bank more than mechanics!
Where do you get training to become a painter?
My sisters husband has his own auto body shop and does wraps for cars. He makes good money. How would one get into this work field?
I wish welding was a high demand trade. Tig welding is probably the only high demand welding process but almost everyone starting to learn it.
I have a friend that's a welder. I was surprised they didn't pay him better.
Plumber, electrician, and plumber will aways be in demand even in a recession. I have looked at all three as a career change and the one thing that holds me back is having to climb a ladder.
Don’t let a ladder hold you back. You get used to it. I didn’t like it at first but now it’s no issue.
Why are you saying it's in demand if you don't have experience in any of them? It's just a guess at this point.
@@jackjack4412 true , lol but they really are in demand. I could quit my job before Lunch time on Monday and be starting at another company the following day.
@@Respect.The.Grind.. right on, which trade are you in? Are you union?
@@jackjack4412 non union hvac installer, retro/residential. But it’s the same for all the sparkies I work with too.
14 months to 2 years depending on the school you can get a FAA A&P license to work on aircraft. It's in high demand and if you work for a major airline you can make up to about $65 an hour after about 6-8 years. Even most of the regional airlines pay well now. If you like working overtime there are usually opportunities to make even more money. Working on helicopters pays well too, but it's harder to get your foot in the door without military experience.
Do you know anyone who has actually done that?
@@jackjack4412 Yes, I know many A&P mechanics who have done this. I work for a regional and don't really want to move up to a major because I have high seniority and I'm getting closer to retirement. I would take a short term pay cut to move to a major and by the time I'm topped off on the pay scale I would be very close to retirement. I also don't want to move. I live in a medium size city and my airport doesn't have a lot of maintenance. Moving is one of the downsides. The regional I work for is owned by a major airline and they hire our mechanics all the time. It is very easy to get hired out of school at a regional. There are also companies like GE Aviation, Rolls Royce, Pratt & Whitney, Boeing, etc. that hire A&Ps. Quite a few community colleges have aviation maintenance programs and there are several for profit schools like Embry Riddle, National Aviation Academy, Sparta, etc.. Other downsides, especially starting out, is you will most likely be working 3rd shift. There is usually overtime. That could be a plus or a minus depending on the individual. I was told years ago that this occupation was going to be in high demand and it is now getting to that point for all the older mechanics retiring. The pandemic accelerated that and pay is increasing quite a bit.
Jesus Loves you Matthew 11:28 come to me all who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. As well as Romans 6:23 for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God (Jesus who died on the cross for our sins) is eternal life. As long as you put your faith and trust in Him.😊!!!!
@@jakemandude7974 stfu that shit is made up by people who wanted to control people
I finished in December and I'm already making $28 doing avionics on the simulators
I decided in 2020 I wanted to get into a trade after working various desk type jobs for years. I quit my job and moved to a new city with no connections or job leads. I landed a job as an apartment maintenance tech and spent two years learning the basics of plumbing, carpentry, electrical, hvac, etc. felt confident enough to apply for dedicated hvac tech jobs in fall of 2022. Last year was my first full year in hvac service/sales and made just over 100k, made another 10k trading crypto round the clock. I’m definitely in the top 20% for pay in this market but could reasonably do 120k this year.
How old were you when you made this move?
@@GabrielJKraus I’ll be 33 this year, I was 29 when I decided to get into hvac
24yrs old been doing commercial refrigeration and hvac for a little over 2 years now and love it.
Not that’s it’s my business but how much are you making yearly?
@@adridzzz80 he can potentially say 80k-100k but ask him if he has to save wisely when people get laid off or work dies..those 80k can easily become 40k if you only worked 8 months of the year
If you only have work for 2/3 of the year, you're at the wrong company. @@DJV94022
@@DJV94022this so true I work for BNSF railroad haven’t worked in 5 weeks
Ive been doing hvac for 1 year so far making 20$ an hour about to get a raise to 22$ an hour its an amazing trade lots of opportunities in hvac and lots of money
$22 is lots of money?? Are you an apprentice or something?
Journeyman lineman here. I made 215k last year. Lowest JL at my job maybe made 145-155k last year. The highest OT whores make 350-400k
how did u get into linemen? did u do apprenticeship/did u have any background to get u into linemen work? btw whereabouts do u work
Just got my 01 license I think I should pivot 😂
Journeyman lineman 17 years in I made 221k last year
@@jeffsmith7840 I just got my 01 licence in Washington would you recommend me switching to lineman for the overtime potential I don't have anything holding me down so I want to hustle overtime
@@davi-un7ku idk what your doing currently but if you don’t have the potential to make six figures base pay make the move. Lineman in general make six figures base nearly everywhere in the country. Did you check your locally utility or union hall yet?
yeah plumbing is crazy in PA right now. Roto-rooter is hiring plumbers right now for 100k starting. Really been thinking about getting into that, but I've found as a truck driver it's hard to just up and switch careers to construction.
Ive been a truck driver owner operator for last 14 years the industry has taken so much of a nose dive im looking to get into a good Trade back in 2021 I went to school for HVAC and graduated but I never went to take my EPA 608 exam so im planning on studying and taking the exam and getting on with someone who train me as an apprentice.
You can start by talking to a local union. That’s what I’m currently doing switching from a navy mechanic and civilian mechanic background
@@ewirt71epa 608 isn't that bad it's only 100 questions multiple choice try to find somewhere to take it ie. A supply house that will let you use open book
Roto rooter is a scam. I been down that road. They say you can make 100k. What they don’t tell you is they start you around minimum for the training period, after that you’re 100% commission. That means you only get paid if you sell services. If you don’t sell anything, well, you go home empty handed that day. I met some of the scummiest people in that company. The guy that was ‘training’ me literally told me he doesn’t care about helping people he only cares about the money. He was on the phone with another technician bragging about upselling a customer $800 for a part that only costs $50. He also convinced a customer to pay over $1000 for a repair that he didn’t even know how to do. He told the customer we were going to the hardware store to get the parts, while we were driving he pulled the van to the side of the road and went on “RUclips university” to learn how to fix it. So much for being a professional. Oh, and they have a standard price list for services. Somebody called us in to fix a toilet, it needed a new flapper, the tech told him roto rooter charges $650 for that, which is true. Customer said a new toilet would only cost me $200. We left empty handed.
I left before the first week was up.
Join a UNION.
What that
@@tgagaming1354 😂 what that
Your not guaranteed to get into a UNION lol
I would but I’ve been trying for two years and it seems like they only want college kids.
You acting like I can just go ahead and join my local union no problem, it’s a 3 year wait atm to apply
Highest paid trade across the country is a union pipefitters and plumbers. Commercial and industrial work no cheap residential
United Association of pipefitters & plumbers we're the most respected trade on the job
You are forgetting about the Elevator Mechanics.
Facts plumbers and Pipefitters are extremely valuable and we deserve every penny
Yea well your not guaranteed to get into the union
I’ve been making over $100k as a truck driver and it only took 5 weeks to get my cdl.
What company do you work for? My dad got his cdl a year ago but work is on and off
@@adridzzz80 you can make $80k+ a year doing local food service and home every night too Mclane, PFG, US foods, Sysco, Gordon foods
it's not about what company u work for it's about how much work your willing to do with that company
@@adridzzz80 I have about 8 years experience and I do flatbedding on a dedicated account. I drive for Werner. I previously was on the same account with UPS and jumped over to Werner when they took over the account.
Elevator mechanic here. Our apprentices start at $85k plus a year. 4 years your banking $150k plus
Knew a few here in NYC and one in particular was telling me he was making 220k + easy with OT
Where at?
Been a farrier for over 30 years. Six figures and done by noon everyday. It’s hard work but once your body gets accustomed to it and you learn to relax under a horse, it is much easier. But problem if you are in a high density horse area, the burnout rate is high. Stick to CA, TX, FL, and NY for the highest pay. Pace yourself. You want to finish the marathon, and not be the fastest in a 5 k race.
Our family friend just got an apprenticeship out of high school to work for my grandfather's HVAC company. Starting off around $15/hr but now at $22. I used to work 2 summers there with $9.50 but I was 16 and 17 years old and only helped around the shop. Thought about going there after high school but I realize I like the boating industry more!
One thing I've never been any good at, you have to be competitive, and somehow on the inside track, and you keep on stepping and stepping up until you finally get a good paying job in any of the trades. Starting out, you're going to get a demanding job that nobody else wants, for the barest minimum pay to keep you there. And if you don't know how to compete, you'll be there forever. Some people have a natural talent to know where the better jobs are, and how to get one. Other people don't. I was one of them
none of these look that bad to me, surprisingly. Usually I'm the one to see every job as being extremely boring and depressing (for me)
No you;re not alone. I mean any job where you're employed by someone is boring and depressing to an extent. Its all about self employment / creating your own business.
Trades can be depressing..i didnt want to be in a trade in high school everyone wants to be an athlete making it to a big team, doctor , music creator, automotive mechanic etc etc.
Trades are usually new people in the country, drug/alc abusers, or people with felonys..the stress is big..but once you get used to it you work alone and you get to shine on your own..
Yeah it would be nice to work at target upfront and make 2gs a week without doing much but thats now how the world works
@@DJV94022 I work as a partsperson at an automotive mechanic shop. They're all depressed too.
Jesus was a carpenter. I think he made $500k a year USD.
You’re thinking of the guy who started his own Beer Church (in the name of Jesus of course).
Yeah but the 500k was from his water to wine business
Jesus was also from Dallas.
@@YouReallyDontKnowbro why did I laugh that hard at this comment
He was gay tho
How do you make a top 5 list of 100k plus trade jobs and leave out the Elevator Mechanics?
elevator mechanic pays well but very high stress and a ton to learn not everyone can just do this
And compared to the other trades there's not that many. I'm not saying It's not a bad job, it's a speciality.
As of April of 2024 the prevailing wage in Missouri is 62.91 a hour that’s insane money
hey, just had a quick question, im looking into starting a plumbing career. east wick college wants to charge me 21k for a 18 month program that puts you into an aprentenceship afterwards. do you think this program is worth 21k??
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@@Taliecat exactly I totally agree with you cause paying 21k for a course when you can flip it over and over with trading in this same time frame
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Hell no, look in your local area for companies that are hiring lvl 1 apprentices and apply with a real good cover letter. Do the classic “let me work for you for 2 weeks for free” pitch and I guarantee you’ll have at least 1 taker. (No one’s going to pass up free workers although this may not work at a larger bureaucratic
company). Hope u make a good impression and as soon as they hire you, book your lvl1 of schooling which will be significantly less that 21k. The whole point in my opinion of an apprenticeship instead of some degree is to dodge spending stupid money on schooling.
I am an appliance repair tech with 6 years in the field, small trade that not many people know about, but good money, it is not too hard on the body comparing to other trades, mostly work inside.
the field will teach you about electricity, water, and refrigeration. Now I work in the commercial field and make 88k per year without counting OT.
my advice to the newbies.
1 -just get start somewhere first, don't think too much about the money for the first year or two, this is where you learn and hone your skill, the money will come once you have the skills.
2 - be willing to start in the small trade... when I first started, some of my peers didn't really think much of my trade, calling it "small", they all applied and wait for HVAC and electrician companies to take them in, but it never happened, now I am a journeyman and they are still working in the warehouse whining about things like society didn't give them a chance.
16 yr old kid trying to think of what to do if football don’t work out I definitely don’t want to be behind a desk appreciate it
Same bro if football doesn’t work idk
Be a plumber they make great money
Go to your local trade school and they will let you check out the class & talk to the instructor . You’ll get to see firsthand what they’re doing and figure out if it’s something you might want to do without having to sign up for anything.
Look into Job Corps while you’re still a minor
Look into the elevator union
Idk why plumbing seems so appealing to me.
you just wanna show people your butt crack.
Under water welding is the ticket ! BIG MONEY ! But extremely difficult and dangerous ! BUT At $150 to &200 Per Hour It easily pays the BILLS
Where can I get started in this trade sir?
@@nickmyers3681 it would be easier to learn how to weld on land than kill yourself trying to directly learn underwater
@@jvinclarence3977 welding isn’t hard and a skill that can be learned in a matter of weeks if one properly applies oneself. Underwater welding presents different circumstances and physics
@@nickmyers3681 no shit Sherlock
I left the trades because it pays trash and has no benefits. People drive 1.5 hrs to make 40-50k in the trades where I'm at. I left to go work in a warehouse and make 65k with benefits. Plus I know where I'm at every day, my hours are consistent, I don't have to drive in to work just to find out can't work for the day, and I don't have to use my vehicle for the companies benefit. Even PM's and estimators only made 60-70k and they are salary so their per hour gets low real quick. Even CDL dump truck drivers barley make over 20hr and are often laid off in the winter.
Warehouse job that pays that much. Where bro and what type of position?
@Zacadelic Trex. I make 24.02 hr (55,000 base pay)+(2400 attendance bonus) then add a few days of OT. Work weeks 36/48 12hr days. This is on the lower end around the area for warehouse but the other places make 7 day work weeks mandatory, 12hr shifts as well. I still have two more positions I can move up before changing job titles. Typically I tag or stack boards, sometimes box up pellets. For the most part it's easy money. I maybe do about a fourth the amount of effort as I did in construction. The problem with construction is everyone and their brothers thinks they can do it because they can pick up a hammer, which drives down labor cost because there's a surplus.
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Location is important. Everything changes once you master your trade and start your own business. In 2020 my brother was making 30$ an hour doing drywall with 6 years of experience. In 2021 his boss retired and he started his own company. Now he charges 70$ an hour, has 3 full time employees, and uses subcontractors. In 2022 he made over 1 million dollars.
@Casey Nelson that's gross not net. Second the 70hr is for small jobs not large jobs. But the going rate for labor and materials around me is about 50-60 a 12' sheet. Then you still have to work outside the working hours because you have to do estimates, paperwork, bills, etc. Then what about benefits does he provide boots, prescription safety glasses, gloves, 401k, medical and dental, tools, more than one week vacation, sick pay?
I see the plane model om the table, I had a great career as an A&P mechanic.. I was making 90K when I retired 20 years ago.
love the comments. Good luck on the journey! The mind is powerful
These are the real jobs society really needs, not a bs ones. It's shame that they're not valued as much as they should be.
Where are HVAC techs making more than 25-30/hr? 150/hr is crazy and I need to go there!
Only if they own the company or in a really high cost of living state
Canada
union wages are at 45+ n hr on the check 66+ full package here in wisconsin…
I make 34 an hour in a matter of 5 years as a hvac tech
Try to get into a union company that hires HVAC technicians
I was a elevator mechanic 20 years ago now retired at that time I was making over $40 per hour as far as I know the are now making close to the $60 per range
How’d you get into that
And thats the problem they fire good old people and hire in new people for cheap or high pay that it just makes you wanna quit and reapply
I have a construction supervisors license (carpenter builder) in MA and I left the trade because I couldn’t make it. Nobody wanted to pay. Most people would only pay per hour and you can’t make a living working per hour. You do one job for a week charging $50 an hour the the next week you have no work. Chasingmoney, chasing materials and you can never find help and if you do they know nothing and want $30 an hour.
So you want cheap labour and material but high pay for yourself? No wonder you failed to make it.
@@chiefhere1968 I make a great living for my family now without all the headaches. Thank you for your insult. I’m sure this makes you a better person than I am. I hope I helped your ego.
Where do you go to learn tile setting and masonry?
Electricians, especially Resi's are severely underpaid. Owning your own electrical business is hugely profitable but working in the trade for at least 5 years to get your Journeyman card? you're gonna be making dirt. Electrical is about to hit the point where companies are just going to disappear. I've hopped a couple of companies and they're all stuck in the past. Disposable people, underbid jobs, now is the time to school but not to work in the field. Now if you got in with a union? oh yeah, union apprentices and electricians make bank and they're about to be the only ones left. I'm really surprised you didn't mention Low voltage/data/telecomm. It's a little less than HVAC but HVAC especially commercial service there is no work life balance. Structured cabling, fire alarm, access control, make DOUGH.
@AD4 Pretty much, don't get me wrong there are still a couple of good contractors out there, but not many. Depending on the union you can get over $30/hr apprenticing which is unheard of in the private sector.
@@bazzleblades6331 Only way you will make money in electrician is union like you said. i seen jobs paying $12 hr lol but your not guaranteed to get into the union though , you can keep trying and trying but you can still not get in.
How about residential plumbing ? do they make money or residential HVAC?
All I see are non natural born citizens pulling low voltage cable on residential and commercial jobs. Greengo wins the bid but pays under table for labor. Steer clear.
Appreciate the info 🤝
I’ve been doing HVAC in the Army for about 8 or 9 years. Hopefully that experience can transfer to a civilian job because I’m getting out soon.
It will.
It will, you’ll be fine
HVAC companies love their veterans, you ll definitely do fine, commercial and chillers is up in the 40$ an hr with medium service tech license
It deff will , you can work for carrier . Or even better you can work as an HVAC tech with whoever has the facilities contract on a base . They pay prevailing wage so you’ll start at around 75K , where are you located I can probably help you out , i was a chief warrant officer CW3 myself
You damn right it is bro! You might be a supervisor ! Making hella money
Tile setter here we love it!
Masonry sounds very interesting
What about tiles? Anyone?
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It actually does a terrible job describing pay. Take it all with a grain of salt.
Just based off indeed in my city, it seems like there is the most demand for plumbing technicians and at the highest starting salaries too. Electricians and HVAC have solid opportunities starting out too.
i am 20 years old pakistani and i am doing a plumbing diploma inshallah soon i will be in canada 😁
hope u the best my brother
@@ernstpierre7021 thanks
Thinking about hvac but I’m in Orlando and seeing most of them get paid 20-25 has me nervous, I make 45-55k a year serving tables 30 hours a week but it’s not always steady
Specialize in refrigeration and you will see up wards 30 an hour as a full blown tech. Master it after 2-5 years and you can name your price 45 an hour or more
I’m surprised the elevator trade isn’t there…
Top four Union, heavy equipment, operator, union pipefitters, union ironworkers, union lineman
I’m about to finish school being an electrician because I know how much we need power, I plan to do an apprenticeship and yes start my own business
Excellent video very much informative here👍👍
I run a successful roofing company and the demand for a good crew is through the roof. (No pun intended.)
Besides some of the employees you'll run into who suffer from alcohol and drug abuse I find it an easy business to run once you learn the trade. I get around 50% profit on most jobs.
How did you work your way up to that?
@@jackjack4412 worked for another company, learned how to manage crews and started doing small repair jobs on the side. Saved up to buy a van and tools got a lot of word of mouth from my repairs.
@@EastAlen How long did you work before starting your business and how much did you save up?
@@jackjack4412 10 years but I started young and stuck with it. Didn't take it seriously my first 5 years mostly partied and spent all my hard earned money on bs.
You can learn the trade and business side of it in 1-2 if you show up everyday and ask the right questions. I had my dad as a good mentor but you can learn a lot online as well. If you're getting into roofing remember you're working at heights everyday, working outside in different weather conditions. Safety is always number one priority. A solid crew of honest guys goes a long way. Funding the business is the easy part you can get started with very minimal (tool belt with hand tools, air compressor, gun, ladder) which I recommend buying everything used to start with and as you progress buy what you need.
The demand is there for good roofers. If you're new go out and work for a good crew try and stay away from alcoholics and drug addicts because there's lots of them. The right crew and leader will teach you how to do everything right and if you don't rush it you'll pick it up as you go. Just take your time. Maybe you'll find a coworker who would be interested in partnering up in business. I certainly wish I had one at times. Sure it's half the profit but its a lot easier to grow.
@@jackjack4412 anybody and youll see it from people being new to the country they jump on a trade work for 5 years in 5 years either they become bosses or crew leaders..also when you run a business for everything and everyone the first 5 years will be rough
Kesha yelling" its goung down im yelling timber" right jacoby lol or is this south lyons tree cutter
Ex marine with that background would def help with hvac hott attics tight spaces but heres the most important to have mental strength alot of times your ganna want to quit or your tired of think and thinking that you get weak for that moment you cannot give up..if they hired you to come fix their ac you must do it..itll be embarrasing to quit pick up and have someone else pickup the race and win easily
Fuck dude sprinkle some Grammer in there
I’m 18 and I’m thinking about going to trade school for welding or plumbing which one is better ?
Depends on where you live, if you like work with metal go into welding if you want an easy life go into plumbing
@@Maki-qw8he what you think about roofing ?
@@Ayezdiddyonnabeat I’d do plumbing but not roofing it’s tough on the body with low pay
@@Ayezdiddyonnabeat DONT do roofing especially union , they are dickheads! you wont like it.
@@Maki-qw8he Do you think plumbing adult program is worth it ? A couple days out the week for 3 hours ?
So, if I’m a journeyman plumber , yet I can do electrical and HVAC all at the highest level .. how much should I make per year,
90k a year plus benefits
that would take you at least 20 years to get to that point, then you can make 150k easy, because you will manage, or own your own company and make even more.
going in to HVAC was a little surprised it was #1.
Im graduating high school next year. I have the grades and academics to go to college and pursue countless careers, but I do not want to be stuck behind a desk my entire life. Im seriously considering trade school but I have fears about getting stuck in a low end job and missing out on opportunities I would have had going to college, I need to make this decision soon, and Im leaning towards trades but I fear I wont become as successful as these 100k dollar salary guys and will let down myself and my family, Im just looking for any advice from people with possibly similar experiences.
i am stuck in the same scenario as you looking for answers
Bro I graduated in 2020 and was in the same problem. It was last year when I dropped out of Georgia Southern University to go to a trade school for welding. It’s so easy and definitely worth the money. I’m only 21 and the company I work for is elite I make around $75k a year and that’s only with barely a year of experience. I’m pretty sure once you get settled in it you’ll be making close to $100k easy. My friend went in the same time I did but he went for plumbing and he makes the same if not more than me😂. I probably should’ve went into plumbing but the con of plumbing is that they work in more precarious situations and welding is pretty more laid back. But they are both great for money. I wanted to be an aerospace engineer 💀 but the homework and studying just was wayyyyy too much. Don’t be scared of a trade bro it’s almost like a guaranteed job.
@@wckdaintgood yo bro please answer I’m in ga as well looking for a good trade what’s the place called where u went to become a welder I appreciate it man really if u respond
@@Leosdoingit I went to this school called Southern Crescent Technical College and they offer a lot of trade courses. I’m pretty sure every small technical college in Ga offers trade courses like welding, plumbing, etc. I was about to go to this trade school in Atlanta called Lincoln College but with me choosing Southern Crescent, I actually got paid for going there bc it was so cheap. I got $3200 at the end of each semester 😂. But yea any small technical college near you should have the courses, you don’t have to go to a university for it. Just check up with whatever school you’re looking into bc I know some schools don’t offer certain trades so just double check.
@@wckdaintgood oooo I know where that is not to far thanks man but I decided a different trade now (heavy equipment) thanks for the time my guy
I have a question where do you sell your produce at? I’m thinking of bringing a electrician but your job seems cool
I’m about to turn 27 in a month and wondering if I’m too late to start a trade as an apprentice or even go to school for x amount of years to learn the trade then x amount of years as an apprentice. Basically just have 4 years of Military experience and about 2 years of epoxy coatings
23 and a half and the same situation here. On the other hand If I don't pull the trigger ill just end up older with no skills. Id say go for it man.
I like to count ironworkers as the unsung heroes.
Which do you think will be the fastest turn around between HVAC, Electrical and plumbing? I think the hardest one to master is plumbing since I believe you have to work so many years under a master plumber before you even can get a license, HVAC I think all you need is a certification and not so much the experience or hours I’m I correct?
Thank you for this video! Well done! I see so many new homeowners believe that skilled trades pay minimum wage, but are shocked when they get charged $90+/Hr for a plumber, Lol.
A sub-specialization in your skilled trade will get you more money, than a highly specialized tradesmen.
For example: Electricians who work only on residential properties are limited, but an electrician with a skill set in automation will get paid much more money due to very high demand to implement new technologies and design!
Mechanic charged 160$ an hour
@@Yhgdsts765 Not surprised one bit, as I myself work as an automation and controls electrician.
My buddies who work the skilled trades (i.e.: HVAC tech) can easily charge $150/Hr for their work. Especially for commercial refrigeration, very few people actually know how those things work, so you can easily charge extra $$$.
That's a terrible comparison. Resi electrical isn't a specialization, it's bottom of the totem pole.
@@Czar4k Depends on where you live too.
@@alexsmith-ob3lu No, it doesn't. A w-2 residential electrician in any area makes less than a commercial or industrial electrician of any type working the same hours in the same area.
Thanks for putting hvac on number one . And thanks for what you do and keep doing what your doing
much respect to HVAC Trade Im a pretty well educated guy and HVAC School kicked my but. I did graduate in top of my class in 2021 still have to take my EPA exam HVAC is very comprehensive.
@@ewirt71I’m going to trade school and I chose HVACR what would be some good tips if any?
Just a few more years at my factory. I get paid good but I’m interested in wastewater or diesel tech. Apprentice for waste water starts at 29.26 with grade 1 certificate is nice. Might start school next coming August 🤔
I wanna be a carpenter but electrician makes more money any advice for the long run I’m 26 I’ve been working warehouse and I’m tired of it
What about ironworkers ?
From what I’ve seen the top 5 are
Lineman
Elevator Mechanic
Plumber
Electrician
Crane Operator
How about lineman?
Welding is another high paying trade that you can make a great living, right out of school, or a decent living going to work for a welder or fabrication company without any sort of experience and learn as you go to work every day.
Any advice for getting a job like you mentioned without experience. I have construction experience which could show I work hard ect.. but nothing to do with welding
I’m currently living in Canada and I’m looking for trade to get in . But I found Plumbing is bit easy for get in other than Electrical industry. Any ideas about getting into plumbing
I always tought that electrician made more money then HVAC
It is also easy to kill oneself too. And to get paid well one has to spend years in training as far as I know.
Appliance technicians. Getting harder to find good responsible tech, this bring demand high which makes companies to pay more.
I don't see alot of mechanical trades listed, where mining and factory maintenance work can pay alot more than basic residential or commercial work.
yup, way more, and better opportunities.
This is based on housing market. If you want to make real good cash inflow go into infrastructure civil construction. When your doing houses as the primary work you'll be at the mercy of what the home owner can afford. If you think home owners don't care more about how much it will cost over the fact that you are a legit contractor watch the how fast a employee will do a side hussle. These employees can't do that in civil infrastructure work to many government agencies involved.
That seems kinda high for carpenters isnt it? I understand more expensive markets like cali but the COLA levels that out.
all the trades pay very well
How do you get into the trades?
Look up a local company near you and apply
You can either just apply for a job, go through the local union of whatever trade you’re trying to get into and they can help set you up with an apprenticeship, or you can do what I did and go to a trade school. Best decision I ever made was learning a trade. 😌
@@cmahesse Just remeber a union isn’t guaranteed to get into
@@cmahessetrade did you get into and how long was your trade school. I absolutely cannot do white collar work. It's too boring and fake I can't do it. Blue collar work seems right for me I just am 21 and don't really know where to start tbh. I want to get my life good though. What do you recommend tbh. I would greatly appreciate any advice.
@@elcocaino8728 Google trade schools near you and look at the programs they offer. I did cnc machining which was 6 months long, but there are so many to choose from. They even helped me to get financial aid
Any welders in the house??
Pipe fitters and welders should be on here vro
Nice more content like this
I'm a Army veteran. Can you connect me with you marine veteran friend in California who does HVAC? What's his contact info? I have some questions. He'd be happy to hear from another veteran.
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I am 29 years old, been in sales all my life fucking hated it. A week on Monday I am starting an adult joinery apprenticeship specialising in shopfitting that I got by sheer luck/fate, I started an joinery apprenticeship when i was 16 and I fucked it up completely due to being inmature, drink and being a general fuck up. I am really nervous but will do everything to make this work and I can't wait for a fresh start.
What kind of sales did u do? Im kinda debating if I should pursue sales or a trade
Knowledge in sales is good for trades. @@legenwaitforitdary3508