The person who took the video Michael has an IG @mmamyers Michael, if you see this, thanks again! Also, we interviewed Eddy, so stay turned for that interview! You can see Eddie's recording of the match here: ruclips.net/video/PcYomWZBxvk/видео.html
People seem to struggle against the side stance in MMA. It’s probably because they train against more square almost Thai stance fighters in training and matches. So when someone won’t stand and trade with them they don’t know how to close the gap.
this is a great example of what we’re looking for from kung fu as evidence. Not only is this guy clearly effective, he hasn’t turned into a generic kickboxer. What he’s doing is extremely unique to TKD (so unique that you can’t even claim it’s karate). You’re not going to find a bunch of tornado kicks and double roundhouses and spinning back kicks from the K1 crowd. It’s not enough to just wear a gi or a Shaolin robe and declare yourself as an exemplar of Style X, you actually have to use the style effectively. Contrary to popular belief, not everything is just kickboxing.
Yeah, i do slightly disagree in your last statement tho. Of course these arts (Taekwondo, Karate and many Kung fu styles for example) are not just kickboxing and they shouldn't look like it. But one has to remember that some styles look like they do because they are the best (or close to be the best) for their respective ruleset. I wouldn't use a lot of Wing Chun techniques or it's stance under bocing ruleset, not because Wing Chun is a bad art but because Boxers fighting in a different way for a reason!! So, my point is that using Karate, Taekwondo or most arts that involve punching and kicking, under a kickboxing ruleset, could look very, very similar. Traditional Karate stances (and therefore, Taekwondo ones) weren't meant for a kickboxing rulesets. They were meant for an enviroment were weapons and grappling are allowed, that's why i wouldn't use them in a kickboxing fight even if i was a Karateka. Same things happens to using a Muay Thai stance for Boxing, or a Wing Chun set of moves for a Capoeira roda hahahaha So, these arts are definitely not Kickboxing (karate and taekwondo were kinda turned into kickboxing, but they originally weren't) but it is fine if they look like it a lot when under certain rulesets
@jestfullgremblim8002 The Kickboxing ruleset doesn't limit you too much, especially Thai rules.. Karate and Taekwondo people fight like they fight in the tournaments, no reason for not using those styles in Kickboxing
@@jestfullgremblim8002I think the main point is that rulesets inform how people train. If a judoka mainly trains for kousen rules, the skills they cultivate will be much more like those of a BJJ practitioner than of an Olympic judoka. If you have them fight in rules that discourage staying on the ground, they're going to try to adapt (e.g. not pull guard) but that doesn't mean they'll have the standup skills to win in that format. OTOH, if the art's core training methods give someone skills that do carry over for a different ruleset, e.g. if a tai chi master uses MMA forms in a cage match but has magically good takedown and strike defense from years of standing post, silk reeling, push hands, etc., then I'd definitely count that as a win for tai chi.
This TKD guy definitely has the flavor of old-school TKD. A close friend of mine trained in Korea before the modernized system was taught, and he has the same level of aggression as wells as choice in technique. Brilliant display of the style.
Yes, I have been doing Taekwondo for 13years now and this IS old style Taekwondo, It is so rare because this styles was abolished and replaced by the olimpic style, It is most likely that this Guy was training on his own from what he learned in the old days
His cardio was wonderful! Like in Muay Thai, he laid into his kicks - "the old way" prior to emphasis on tapping for points. He also used the basic version of the switch kicks and more footwork as opposed to jumping kicks which waste energy. Good use of hands to keep distance. Love it!
massive respect to you brother. Love how you incorporated those bullet kicks in this fight. Rare to see someone pull this off even in Taekwondo matches today
this is much more like my experience with TKD opponents (albeit this guy is better than all of them), with the exception that this guy has a ton of forward pressure. Most of the best TKD guys I’ve sparred with IRL were very defensive, you were always chasing them. Great performance.
Such amount of body hits made the other guy drop his hands. Specially the side kick to the belly at the start of the last round. He built that KO. Very cool.
This guy's TKD is impressive! And it's nice to see a TKD person kick with some power. TKD certainly has the body mechanics and potential for powerful kicks, especially head kicks
What I'm getting from this is that you just have to be really really good to make TKD work well in a cage. This guy's kick speed, accuracy, and volume were insane. Though it certainly helped that he was taller and his opponent had the worst strategy imaginable, or perhaps no strategy at all.
As a taekwondo red belt i disagree. If you want to learn how to tick go do taekwondo. Your kicking technique will get very good very fast. I think as a taekwondo guy you should concern the opponent with your kicks and than surprise him with your boxing (if you can box). He will focus mainly on the kicks like turning side kick or a spinning hook kick. You also have to test you kicks in sparring and look how to kick and set them up.
This is completely anecdotal, so I don't blame you for taking what I say with a grain of salt. I did Tae Kwon Do for about 6 months, then I switched to (Dutch) kickboxing. I still practice(d) a lot of my Tae Kwon Do techniques after switching over and despite not getting past yellow belt, my TKD techniques are pretty effective. It's actually funny, because people always point out that I do TKD when we do pads despite me training in Kickboxing now for about 5 years.
Taekwondo implemented with good boxing is always a force to be reckoned with. The dude should pressure him and be aggressive and willing to sacrifice his body to go dutch kickboxing combos on the inside and make the TKD guy respect him.
I practiced TKD most of my life and picked up Muay Thai a couple years ago, and I'm really glad to have both repertoires in my kit. The fast, long TKD kicks help out tremendously against taller opponents.
In addition to using his hands, tkd guy has a solid low round kick, rather than just a poppy foot strike. I think that help to set up some of the fancier stuff, including that KO at the end
Jerry u need to do a video on Serkan Yilmaz aka the Turkish Samurai, who brought high level TKD to pro kickboxing. his fights were spectacular and he had great hands too
TKD works but most of what I've seen (not here) I like to call: Taekwon-Don't. It's really nice to see an exception because it's a very effective style it just takes tremendous dedication.
That Cro-cop kick was coming --- blue gloves figured out that black gloves was staying in range. Black gloves really needed to be more aggressive. That switching of stance seems to be very signature TKD.
Very nice! I guess that's how taekwondo before the modified Olympic sports version looked 👍 I think it can be very effective in kickboxing matches but less effective in a mma ruleset, where takedowns and throws are allowed. At least it have to be modified for that.
I see a lot of people talking about the Muay Thai guy should’ve added more pressure, but here’s the thing he has to be careful of taekwondo’s signature long range kicks so he couldn’t just keep applying pressure he would’ve walked into a devastating double roundhouse or spinning hook kick earlier.
Dude has some serious kicks, the other guy didn't seem to comprehend the urgency with which he needed to close distance and jam those kicks. Even if that meant eating a few, otherwise TKD guy is only going to keep whipping those fast kicks which is what he did.
A big thing he’s doing is actually resetting to his stance to prepare for strikes. Most TKD guys in this kind of atmosphere wouldn’t be resetting to a stance and readying themselves to defend against strikes and infighting with a proper guard, head positioning and movement, and footwork. He understands all of the weapons he needs to deal with, and while he may not be a professional, the awareness is there. He has adapted it for the environment he intends to use it in, while keeping it distinct.
Probably not a fair fight in experience wise, but great striking confidence to go for an autobahn kick theyre very rare to see. The hardest part of kicking is the defence part which we didnt see here. At agro in theory tkd works very well. Its wat happens when a kicker is fighting someone aggressive then what can you do with no respect form the opponent.
Taekwondo is my first actual technical trained dojo to go, and I love the videos you share super rare moments w/ it if you actually combined it with silat for close range control finish. But to control everything in combo/sync and balance anti wild fluidity from taekwondo, it's smart to learn some savage the more street version of course because hard to range find you w/ punches especially on false angles savage gives Keep that in mind its a good hydride try it out
Hands were dropping not out of fear, but to protect lower body a little more and, probably more importantly, to be in better position to try to catch a leg.
Buakaw is completely another level. The TKD guy is definitely a black belt and a really good one but he is not a world champion to be compared to such superstars
Taekwondo is so beautiful and amazing and yet theres not enough good schools in nyc...i really wanna see if there is any genuine good authentic self dense TKD that will teach what its supposed to. Beautiful powerful kicks but decent punches and some groundwork. Is this so hard to find in a place like NEW YORK
Yes, MT guy needed to be inside, but might have been trying to avoid getting a bad kick with a kick while pushing in. He would have had a better fight up close, eliminating most of the opportunities for TKD. This is one reason TKD kicks should be coupled with heavy training on up close fighting, and it would be a tough combo to beat. Old school TKD used elbows, knees, and hand strikes as well. But still has more training on the kicks. So, take the TKD stuff and couple it with MT and boxing or kickboxing. This video here is a good example of how TKD kicks should be part of every MMA fighter's arsenal. I see too many commenters saying "TKD doesn't work", when that's not exactly correct. It just needs to be used correctly, and mixed with other stuff. Keep the good stuff, eliminate the vulnerabilities. Now, I was kind of expecting to see some super fast spinning back kicks or spinning hook/heel kicks, which are among TKD's more effective kicks in sanctioned fights, actually landing. Saw one miss. Will have to check again, maybe there were more that I missed. But those should be part of any complete toolkit. The trick there is to be lighting quick with them, and don't get your leg grabbed by a guy that can do a submission on your knee or something. Also, one last thing to be aware of when fighting like what was in this video... you have to have stamina or you'll gas. Good job, TKD guy.
I don't know muvh about TKD but one thing that i think has not helped their practitioners in mixed rules fighting is lavk of conditioning. Particularly i will say all that jumping and fancy kicks seem to drain lots of energy against better conditioned fighters who really, the only thing they need to do is stand back and and let the TKD fighters wear themselves out. That being said, thus particular fighter looks like he caught on to that and he looks like hes in really good shape. Ive only made it to 2:00 so far but he looks fine. Joe Rogan would be real proud.
This TKD guy knows how to keep his distance, that is how his kicks are so effective and he got hands to. But his opponent is a Muay Thai fighter he's having trouble getting into reach with the TKD guy. But nonetheless good fight.
I was wrong at first sight . I thought the smaller guy just block to mess up other guy feet and energy then back with ring fighter hand and feet or at least return one hardest punch . It looks like a back fire and his block hurt him self . ( i dont know , they set up the fight with a weight lifter maybe .like the woman other clip . )
That's why when you see ring fighter block the side punch a little inside the hand to get the punch less effective and to hurt the hand a little even when the fist still hit the blocker . ( don't block the fist .) Just a comment.
Reach can be an advantage, but it's not always the deciding factor. Reach can be used against you by a person who can control distance, especially when kicking. As a tall TKD competitor of 20 years, I have to be careful to manage my distance and I spent a lot of time working on breaking out of close range exchanges in order to combat this. Black gloves needed to step in during the round techniques that use the outside lanes, and use the center lane with his punches and teep if he wanted to be more effective here.
Black gloves could really use blasting tkd guy with some leg kicks. He really needs to take away how effective the legs are on blue gloves. Yes, he needs to get some more puches in, but letting black gloves use his legs like that is a mistake.
I have watched a brazilian capoeira stylist beat and knock out numerous people in MMA and Serkan Yilmaz use to beat the hell out of thai boxers using Taekwondo you can watch all of this on youtube.
Until he got destroyed by Tenshin, Ignacio Caplonch, from argentina, won a lot of kickboxing titles using taekwondo. After Tenshin he was never the same
Question for the experts as most of my "knowledge" is just from watching UFC/MMA. But guys that have Karate as a base seem to have had more success than TKD guys. What I notice is they seem to manage distance better and seem to get in and out better when they start striking. GSP, Wonderboy, and Machida being examples. TKD guys when they commit seem to throw multiple kicks and kind of over-commit, which opens them up to more counters or worse takedowns. I noticed this with Yair Rodriguez esp in his fight last night again Volk. Is this something just inherent in the respective martial arts, or is it the way these guys utilize them?
Part of it is that in the most popular taekwondo rule format (WT), punches are really unimportant. Worth few points, hard to land without getting scored on, and oftentimes aren't scored at all by judges. Also, punches to the head aren't allowed. Overall in kickboxing and MMA, punches are more important than kicks. So lacking punches in high level competition results in TKD athletes having a harder time transitioning into rulesets where punches are more important. Almost every form of point karate involves a lot of punches to the head. Kyokushin does not, but it's fought bareknuckle, and fights are won via knockdown and not via a points scoring system. Hence, why karateka generally have a better time transitioning that TKD players. The other main format of TKD fighting, ITF, actually produces more quality kickboxers. Ironically, WT is full contact and KO is a legit path to victory, whereas in ITF it's all light contact. But ITF allows punches to the face, and punches are important in the format. Last thing, and this is speculation on my part but: competitive TKD is a much bigger scene worldwide than competitive karate. So it may be easier for top TKD practitioners to find satisfying careers solely within TKD, whereas top karateka find fewer such opportunities within their sport alone, driving a larger number of high quality karate talent into kickboxing, muay thai, and MMA. (As a side note I think that's one factor in the prominence of wrestlers, especially in 2000s era MMA. There's nowhere for world-class folkstyle, Greco, and freestyle wrestlers to go but MMA if they want to professionally compete in real fights, so that's what a ton of them do.)
tbh, this looks like a huge mismatch in terms of actual fighting skill, regardless of style. Would be interesting to see how this would play out against a grappler though will all that airtime on the kicks.
@@elenchus thats true, I think in most pure grappler vs striker matchups, the advantage is to the grappler for sure. Just would be curious to see how some of these more "airborne" switch kicks would come into play under MMA rules, with the threat of the takedown and ground/pound.
@@cpa314 I think that the addition of grappling and more importantly submission fighting (lots of striking competitions allow takedowns, but just getting taken down and being allowed to stand back up by a ref is a very different story than the fight getting moved to the ground) makes strikers more risk adverse. Flashy moves, which are usually kicks, from jump kicks to spinning kicks and even to basic high kicks start to get reevaluated in a risk-reward perspective. Even the presence of blood or sweat on the floor could make a kicker slip and fall, which is relatively unlikely for, say, a boxer. It’s a bit of a side note, but people who like these high-risk kicks for self-defense should also consider the possibility of fighting in the rain or possibly ice or snow, or in slippery footwear (dress shoes), which can pretty dramatically change what they’re capable of. But there is a sort of inverse to this. If you’re sufficiently dangerous on the ground, than you don’t actually have to fear takedowns or just falling down. Fighters, we’ve seen, will just let you stand back up in those scenarios rather than engage your guard. So, weirdly enough, the better your jiujitsu is, the more free you are as a striker. Ryan Hall actually used to talk about that. He’s notoriously dangerous on the ground so he just started throwing crazy spinning moves because it was difficult for people to capitalize on it when he screwed up. He eventually spammed the Iminari roll too much even for him and got punished for it, but that goes more to, I think, predictability than it does jiujitsu + kicking.
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I don't think black gloves was Worthy enough to fight just taekwondo guy. The black belt in taekwondo should go and apply at one championship. Then we will know how good he is.
Tkd guys has ful contact experience. You do the extended fist in order to measure the other guy would be in kicking range. Do not let a tkd guy do his thing. The kicks will hurt and it is fast. Based on a documentary the switch kick has the highest kicking force and it is also the fastest. You can see the other guy's fear because his forearms hurt. If he wanted to deal with a tkd guy, fake him, then get in and knee or punch hard into the sternum Also there's the old solution of kick the legs
The person who took the video Michael has an IG @mmamyers Michael, if you see this, thanks again! Also, we interviewed Eddy, so stay turned for that interview! You can see Eddie's recording of the match here: ruclips.net/video/PcYomWZBxvk/видео.html
People seem to struggle against the side stance in MMA. It’s probably because they train against more square almost Thai stance fighters in training and matches. So when someone won’t stand and trade with them they don’t know how to close the gap.
That spinning kick by the black gloves guy at 3:22 does't look like a Muay Thai kick. As far as I know, Muay Thai doesn't have spinning kicks.
this is a great example of what we’re looking for from kung fu as evidence. Not only is this guy clearly effective, he hasn’t turned into a generic kickboxer. What he’s doing is extremely unique to TKD (so unique that you can’t even claim it’s karate). You’re not going to find a bunch of tornado kicks and double roundhouses and spinning back kicks from the K1 crowd. It’s not enough to just wear a gi or a Shaolin robe and declare yourself as an exemplar of Style X, you actually have to use the style effectively. Contrary to popular belief, not everything is just kickboxing.
Yep
Yeah, i do slightly disagree in your last statement tho.
Of course these arts (Taekwondo, Karate and many Kung fu styles for example) are not just kickboxing and they shouldn't look like it.
But one has to remember that some styles look like they do because they are the best (or close to be the best) for their respective ruleset.
I wouldn't use a lot of Wing Chun techniques or it's stance under bocing ruleset, not because Wing Chun is a bad art but because Boxers fighting in a different way for a reason!!
So, my point is that using Karate, Taekwondo or most arts that involve punching and kicking, under a kickboxing ruleset, could look very, very similar.
Traditional Karate stances (and therefore, Taekwondo ones) weren't meant for a kickboxing rulesets. They were meant for an enviroment were weapons and grappling are allowed, that's why i wouldn't use them in a kickboxing fight even if i was a Karateka.
Same things happens to using a Muay Thai stance for Boxing, or a Wing Chun set of moves for a Capoeira roda hahahaha
So, these arts are definitely not Kickboxing (karate and taekwondo were kinda turned into kickboxing, but they originally weren't) but it is fine if they look like it a lot when under certain rulesets
Re: your last line, I think this guy is just the exception that proves the rule, though.
@jestfullgremblim8002 The Kickboxing ruleset doesn't limit you too much, especially Thai rules.. Karate and Taekwondo people fight like they fight in the tournaments, no reason for not using those styles in Kickboxing
@@jestfullgremblim8002I think the main point is that rulesets inform how people train. If a judoka mainly trains for kousen rules, the skills they cultivate will be much more like those of a BJJ practitioner than of an Olympic judoka. If you have them fight in rules that discourage staying on the ground, they're going to try to adapt (e.g. not pull guard) but that doesn't mean they'll have the standup skills to win in that format. OTOH, if the art's core training methods give someone skills that do carry over for a different ruleset, e.g. if a tai chi master uses MMA forms in a cage match but has magically good takedown and strike defense from years of standing post, silk reeling, push hands, etc., then I'd definitely count that as a win for tai chi.
This TKD guy definitely has the flavor of old-school TKD. A close friend of mine trained in Korea before the modernized system was taught, and he has the same level of aggression as wells as choice in technique. Brilliant display of the style.
Yes, I have been doing Taekwondo for 13years now and this IS old style Taekwondo, It is so rare because this styles was abolished and replaced by the olimpic style, It is most likely that this Guy was training on his own from what he learned in the old days
lacks little bit of punches, but so far, this is the best TKD demonstration that i've seen in a cage fight
THATS MY BOY EDDIEE. I used train with him when i lived in Tinley Park, IL. He is a beast and spars exactly like he fights here, it’s crazy.
His cardio was wonderful! Like in Muay Thai, he laid into his kicks - "the old way" prior to emphasis on tapping for points. He also used the basic version of the switch kicks and more footwork as opposed to jumping kicks which waste energy. Good use of hands to keep distance. Love it!
Also always measuring kicking distance with the hands for energy efficiency
Thank you! Means a lot!
Ayo thats me!!!!! haha this video is LIT
Eddy? Thats awesome! Tell mike i said hi too! I’ll pin this comment!
massive respect to you brother. Love how you incorporated those bullet kicks in this fight. Rare to see someone pull this off even in Taekwondo matches today
Man ur good af with sport taekwondo
@@FightCommentary 8 months in and no pin? smh my head
Bro I'm your fan, how do you train to actually aply taekwondo???
This TKD guy is impressive ... The other dude needed more aggression and more elbow knees..
Great match
Amazing exemple of Taekwondo's potential when the fighter is well trained and well adapted in a diferent rule set
this is much more like my experience with TKD opponents (albeit this guy is better than all of them), with the exception that this guy has a ton of forward pressure. Most of the best TKD guys I’ve sparred with IRL were very defensive, you were always chasing them. Great performance.
Such amount of body hits made the other guy drop his hands. Specially the side kick to the belly at the start of the last round. He built that KO. Very cool.
This guy's TKD is impressive! And it's nice to see a TKD person kick with some power. TKD certainly has the body mechanics and potential for powerful kicks, especially head kicks
I came here from your recommendation at the end of the bad TKD vid after this. Now I want to see the good.
Taekwondo is beautiful to look at. Also capoeira. Very gracious.
yeah, northern kung fu, capoeira, and TKD, probably the most visually impressive styles out there
What I'm getting from this is that you just have to be really really good to make TKD work well in a cage. This guy's kick speed, accuracy, and volume were insane. Though it certainly helped that he was taller and his opponent had the worst strategy imaginable, or perhaps no strategy at all.
As a taekwondo red belt i disagree. If you want to learn how to tick go do taekwondo. Your kicking technique will get very good very fast. I think as a taekwondo guy you should concern the opponent with your kicks and than surprise him with your boxing (if you can box). He will focus mainly on the kicks like turning side kick or a spinning hook kick. You also have to test you kicks in sparring and look how to kick and set them up.
This is completely anecdotal, so I don't blame you for taking what I say with a grain of salt. I did Tae Kwon Do for about 6 months, then I switched to (Dutch) kickboxing. I still practice(d) a lot of my Tae Kwon Do techniques after switching over and despite not getting past yellow belt, my TKD techniques are pretty effective. It's actually funny, because people always point out that I do TKD when we do pads despite me training in Kickboxing now for about 5 years.
Taekwondo implemented with good boxing is always a force to be reckoned with. The dude should pressure him and be aggressive and willing to sacrifice his body to go dutch kickboxing combos on the inside and make the TKD guy respect him.
I took boxing to supplement my TKD,it helped me so much.
traditional taekwondo uses both hands and kicks...
Amazing 👍👍👍
I practiced TKD most of my life and picked up Muay Thai a couple years ago, and I'm really glad to have both repertoires in my kit. The fast, long TKD kicks help out tremendously against taller opponents.
In addition to using his hands, tkd guy has a solid low round kick, rather than just a poppy foot strike. I think that help to set up some of the fancier stuff, including that KO at the end
I don't remember when was the last time I saw a TKD kick with such power, he was scary as hell.
Jerry u need to do a video on Serkan Yilmaz aka the Turkish Samurai, who brought high level TKD to pro kickboxing. his fights were spectacular and he had great hands too
Yeahhh
Now that's some proper Taekwondo.
I may have been at this fight! That KO came so fast I was turned away when it happened
Wow! Were there any other cool matches at the event?
@FightCommentary there was a fight where some dude had a long ass entrance only to be KOd in the opening round.
Impressive display of TKD
TKD works but most of what I've seen (not here) I like to call: Taekwon-Don't. It's really nice to see an exception because it's a very effective style it just takes tremendous dedication.
That Cro-cop kick was coming --- blue gloves figured out that black gloves was staying in range. Black gloves really needed to be more aggressive. That switching of stance seems to be very signature TKD.
My TKD teacher would make sure we did plenty of stance switching during drills and sparring.
Very nice! I guess that's how taekwondo before the modified Olympic sports version looked 👍
I think it can be very effective in kickboxing matches but less effective in a mma ruleset, where takedowns and throws are allowed. At least it have to be modified for that.
ITF Taekwondo does have some takedowns, some found in their patterns
That double kick knock out was amazing!
Using 720's as spinning feints, I love this guy now. He's Like Micheal Page but dizzy.
Further evidence that it's not the style, it's the practitioner
I see a lot of people talking about the Muay Thai guy should’ve added more pressure, but here’s the thing he has to be careful of taekwondo’s signature long range kicks so he couldn’t just keep applying pressure he would’ve walked into a devastating double roundhouse or spinning hook kick earlier.
The Taekwondo guy was controlling nearly the entire fight, so the Muay Thai guy had no chance of adding pressure
That was good!!! Way to go TKD!
This is Taek-Won-Do and Yes, This is how many but not the most Taekwondokas practice. So do i Practice like this...
Dude has some serious kicks, the other guy didn't seem to comprehend the urgency with which he needed to close distance and jam those kicks. Even if that meant eating a few, otherwise TKD guy is only going to keep whipping those fast kicks which is what he did.
A big thing he’s doing is actually resetting to his stance to prepare for strikes. Most TKD guys in this kind of atmosphere wouldn’t be resetting to a stance and readying themselves to defend against strikes and infighting with a proper guard, head positioning and movement, and footwork. He understands all of the weapons he needs to deal with, and while he may not be a professional, the awareness is there. He has adapted it for the environment he intends to use it in, while keeping it distinct.
Wow great fight thanks
Finally, there's hope for taekwondo!
Hot D*MN that was like a 900 kick! An f-ing 900 degree spinning hook kick. The Tony Hawk of Taekwondo!!
Probably not a fair fight in experience wise, but great striking confidence to go for an autobahn kick theyre very rare to see. The hardest part of kicking is the defence part which we didnt see here. At agro in theory tkd works very well. Its wat happens when a kicker is fighting someone aggressive then what can you do with no respect form the opponent.
It is not Experience ........... It's Ability
Taekwondo is my first actual technical trained dojo to go, and I love the videos you share super rare moments w/ it if you actually combined it with silat for close range control finish. But to control everything in combo/sync and balance anti wild fluidity from taekwondo, it's smart to learn some savage the more street version of course because hard to range find you w/ punches especially on false angles savage gives Keep that in mind its a good hydride try it out
He is very good. Maybe one of the most awesome I've ever seen
Great fight, very interesting
great skills from TKD guy! even though he looked like he was practicing on a dummy or practicing (hard) drills!
Hands were dropping not out of fear, but to protect lower body a little more and, probably more importantly, to be in better position to try to catch a leg.
The muay thai guy was the perfect kicking bag here staying in long reach. Buakaw would not let that slip and go in for the punish
Buakaw is completely another level. The TKD guy is definitely a black belt and a really good one but he is not a world champion to be compared to such superstars
@@XAE_A_Xii All I’m saying is if your opponent acts like a punching bag then you’ll look impressive regardless of what you do
@@XAE_A_XiiEddie came in 3rd in the Olympics and he is only 19-20 years old. Y’all got to get a grip
The jab is underutilized in kickboxing/Muay Thai. Black gloves could've smothered tkd guy if he closed in using a step lead jab throughout the fight.
Taekwondo is so beautiful and amazing and yet theres not enough good schools in nyc...i really wanna see if there is any genuine good authentic self dense TKD that will teach what its supposed to. Beautiful powerful kicks but decent punches and some groundwork. Is this so hard to find in a place like NEW YORK
This guy has faster kicks than punches. Insane speed.
yep, that's how we do it
Before you get cocky with a TKD guy, you better make sure he's World & not International.
2:48 he hit him with the hwoarang 3 4
1:03 it is a cut kick. It is a skipping sidekick
Yes, MT guy needed to be inside, but might have been trying to avoid getting a bad kick with a kick while pushing in. He would have had a better fight up close, eliminating most of the opportunities for TKD.
This is one reason TKD kicks should be coupled with heavy training on up close fighting, and it would be a tough combo to beat. Old school TKD used elbows, knees, and hand strikes as well. But still has more training on the kicks. So, take the TKD stuff and couple it with MT and boxing or kickboxing.
This video here is a good example of how TKD kicks should be part of every MMA fighter's arsenal. I see too many commenters saying "TKD doesn't work", when that's not exactly correct. It just needs to be used correctly, and mixed with other stuff. Keep the good stuff, eliminate the vulnerabilities.
Now, I was kind of expecting to see some super fast spinning back kicks or spinning hook/heel kicks, which are among TKD's more effective kicks in sanctioned fights, actually landing. Saw one miss. Will have to check again, maybe there were more that I missed. But those should be part of any complete toolkit. The trick there is to be lighting quick with them, and don't get your leg grabbed by a guy that can do a submission on your knee or something. Also, one last thing to be aware of when fighting like what was in this video... you have to have stamina or you'll gas.
Good job, TKD guy.
Great fight calling …
I don't know muvh about TKD but one thing that i think has not helped their practitioners in mixed rules fighting is lavk of conditioning. Particularly i will say all that jumping and fancy kicks seem to drain lots of energy against better conditioned fighters who really, the only thing they need to do is stand back and and let the TKD fighters wear themselves out.
That being said, thus particular fighter looks like he caught on to that and he looks like hes in really good shape. Ive only made it to 2:00 so far but he looks fine. Joe Rogan would be real proud.
The smaller fighter had the perfect distance….for the TKD guy to throw those kicks in the exact range he needed.
Love cakes and love TKD
The kicks and in and out movement remind me of early Conor McGregor.
apparently the second fighter forgot to turn off the iron at home. the whole fight thought about it
lol
This TKD guy knows how to keep his distance, that is how his kicks are so effective and he got hands to. But his opponent is a Muay Thai fighter he's having trouble getting into reach with the TKD guy. But nonetheless good fight.
I was wrong at first sight . I thought the smaller guy just block to mess up other guy feet and energy then back with ring fighter hand and feet or at least return one hardest punch . It looks like a back fire and his block hurt him self . ( i dont know , they set up the fight with a weight lifter maybe .like the woman other clip . )
Gota move out hand and leg a little when you block .
That's why when you see ring fighter block the side punch a little inside the hand to get the punch less effective and to hurt the hand a little even when the fist still hit the blocker . ( don't block the fist .) Just a comment.
Dont cover the face with the palm , it'll mess up the hand .
I notice that tma only works if your already good at fighting in general.
bro you are hilarious insta sub
TKD is literally head higher - he is taller, his legs and arms are longer. No wonder he dominates the fight.
Reach can be an advantage, but it's not always the deciding factor. Reach can be used against you by a person who can control distance, especially when kicking. As a tall TKD competitor of 20 years, I have to be careful to manage my distance and I spent a lot of time working on breaking out of close range exchanges in order to combat this. Black gloves needed to step in during the round techniques that use the outside lanes, and use the center lane with his punches and teep if he wanted to be more effective here.
Black gloves could really use blasting tkd guy with some leg kicks. He really needs to take away how effective the legs are on blue gloves. Yes, he needs to get some more puches in, but letting black gloves use his legs like that is a mistake.
Can I consider ITF as effective as kickboxing?
Every martial art is as effective as each other.
Kickboxing is a tonedown ITF
The MMA dude let the TKD dude dictate the distance. The latter could just keep kicking at the sweet. distance.
Range gauging the lead blue glove was like a "kick me" button. Perhaps not a good idea with opponents who outrange you...
why no low kicks from black gloves tai boxer
Parece Itf?
I have watched a brazilian capoeira stylist beat and knock out numerous people in MMA and Serkan Yilmaz use to beat the hell out of thai boxers using Taekwondo you can watch all of this on youtube.
Until he got destroyed by Tenshin, Ignacio Caplonch, from argentina, won a lot of kickboxing titles using taekwondo. After Tenshin he was never the same
Question for the experts as most of my "knowledge" is just from watching UFC/MMA. But guys that have Karate as a base seem to have had more success than TKD guys. What I notice is they seem to manage distance better and seem to get in and out better when they start striking. GSP, Wonderboy, and Machida being examples.
TKD guys when they commit seem to throw multiple kicks and kind of over-commit, which opens them up to more counters or worse takedowns. I noticed this with Yair Rodriguez esp in his fight last night again Volk.
Is this something just inherent in the respective martial arts, or is it the way these guys utilize them?
Tkd was invented in korea after WWII mostly from karate
Part of it is that in the most popular taekwondo rule format (WT), punches are really unimportant. Worth few points, hard to land without getting scored on, and oftentimes aren't scored at all by judges. Also, punches to the head aren't allowed.
Overall in kickboxing and MMA, punches are more important than kicks. So lacking punches in high level competition results in TKD athletes having a harder time transitioning into rulesets where punches are more important.
Almost every form of point karate involves a lot of punches to the head. Kyokushin does not, but it's fought bareknuckle, and fights are won via knockdown and not via a points scoring system. Hence, why karateka generally have a better time transitioning that TKD players.
The other main format of TKD fighting, ITF, actually produces more quality kickboxers. Ironically, WT is full contact and KO is a legit path to victory, whereas in ITF it's all light contact. But ITF allows punches to the face, and punches are important in the format.
Last thing, and this is speculation on my part but: competitive TKD is a much bigger scene worldwide than competitive karate. So it may be easier for top TKD practitioners to find satisfying careers solely within TKD, whereas top karateka find fewer such opportunities within their sport alone, driving a larger number of high quality karate talent into kickboxing, muay thai, and MMA. (As a side note I think that's one factor in the prominence of wrestlers, especially in 2000s era MMA. There's nowhere for world-class folkstyle, Greco, and freestyle wrestlers to go but MMA if they want to professionally compete in real fights, so that's what a ton of them do.)
tbh, this looks like a huge mismatch in terms of actual fighting skill, regardless of style. Would be interesting to see how this would play out against a grappler though will all that airtime on the kicks.
not well, but I’m not sure much different than with any pure grappler vs. pure striker matchup
@@elenchus thats true, I think in most pure grappler vs striker matchups, the advantage is to the grappler for sure. Just would be curious to see how some of these more "airborne" switch kicks would come into play under MMA rules, with the threat of the takedown and ground/pound.
@@cpa314 I think that the addition of grappling and more importantly submission fighting (lots of striking competitions allow takedowns, but just getting taken down and being allowed to stand back up by a ref is a very different story than the fight getting moved to the ground) makes strikers more risk adverse. Flashy moves, which are usually kicks, from jump kicks to spinning kicks and even to basic high kicks start to get reevaluated in a risk-reward perspective. Even the presence of blood or sweat on the floor could make a kicker slip and fall, which is relatively unlikely for, say, a boxer. It’s a bit of a side note, but people who like these high-risk kicks for self-defense should also consider the possibility of fighting in the rain or possibly ice or snow, or in slippery footwear (dress shoes), which can pretty dramatically change what they’re capable of.
But there is a sort of inverse to this. If you’re sufficiently dangerous on the ground, than you don’t actually have to fear takedowns or just falling down. Fighters, we’ve seen, will just let you stand back up in those scenarios rather than engage your guard. So, weirdly enough, the better your jiujitsu is, the more free you are as a striker.
Ryan Hall actually used to talk about that. He’s notoriously dangerous on the ground so he just started throwing crazy spinning moves because it was difficult for people to capitalize on it when he screwed up. He eventually spammed the Iminari roll too much even for him and got punished for it, but that goes more to, I think, predictability than it does jiujitsu + kicking.
Nooooo only muay thai is effective!! TKD doesn't work in the cage remember!!
It definitely works! Especially if the opponent just stays at kicking range like a test dummy lol
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Ese otro 🐂buey no hace nada debe ser mas agresivo y cerrar la distancia!!!
I calci del taekwondo fanno male! La biomeccanica è totalmente diversa dalla muay thai
I don't think black gloves was Worthy enough to fight just taekwondo guy. The black belt in taekwondo should go and apply at one championship. Then we will know how good he is.
Typical Taekwondo : kick as much as you can & forget about power, if you land often enough your opponent will eventually fold up
Bro what are you talking about 💀
Tkd guys has ful contact experience.
You do the extended fist in order to measure the other guy would be in kicking range.
Do not let a tkd guy do his thing. The kicks will hurt and it is fast. Based on a documentary the switch kick has the highest kicking force and it is also the fastest.
You can see the other guy's fear because his forearms hurt.
If he wanted to deal with a tkd guy, fake him, then get in and knee or punch hard into the sternum
Also there's the old solution of kick the legs