Alternate title: Watch English man slowly lose his sanity over wrong coloured virtual birds Great video dude lmao, glad you finally got Vulpix, looking forward to that video!
This was such a long arduous quest Sonikks. Constantly seeing your posts on social media of all 8 Shiny Pidgeys and the jokes you made like “He sit. Good boi.” Or “Thanksgiving at my house this year” were hilarious 🤣 or all the “Shiny Vulpix today or we riot” or “it’s a skill issue”. Finally. Congratulations Sonikks! Merry Christmas! ✨
High encounter hunt and high phase count brothers. Lol! Super happy for you to finally end this hunt. Enjoyed watching all the birds! Looking forward to the Vulpix vid!
Congrats on the PTQ (+2)! But more importantly, I'm so glad you got your Vulpix. Bright side, now that it's over, hopefully it can be a really funny story rather than just feeling like a seemingly endless onslaught of Pidgey... Looking forward to seeing the Vulpix video soon, and Happy Holidays!
Wonderful video as always! Your intro reminded me of my Dynamax Adventure Groudon hunt, which took 298 encounters with the charm and over 20 phases. I hunted it overe the course of a month, and even though it was a pain to hunt, it's a token of my sheer dedication and a very cool trophy especially in an apricorn ball.
The compilation of despair. Mad respect for keeping at the hunt after so much misfortune. Will watch your Vulpix video yet. I expect you to sound as happy and excited as a child on Christmas morning! 😂
Pidgey Number one: "Oh that looks cool!" And that was the moment, disaster was summoned Anyways, congrats on finally finishing the Vulpix Hunt Steve! May the other hunts bless you and treat you better! ^.^
In a world where shiny hunting is becoming annoying for how easy it is I LOVE THAT SOMEONE STILL GOES THE OLD FASHIONED WAY P.S. my unluckiest shiny hunt ever was zapdos in fire red…. 7 months! But I love my zapdos, he was my first shiny legendary ever and he owns a special place in my heart
Not only did you get 8 pidgeys in a row, you got 8 female pidgeys all with the same stats Attack 19, defense 19, special atk 17, special def 17 and speed 23 i think you found the exact same pidgey 8 times
Re-stumbling across your channel after a few months of hunting on and off my own shiny cyndaquil on the anbernic RG35XX handheld emulator hunting first on gold then switched after nearly 16,000 resets to silver and I FINALLY got the bugger after 18,401 just shy of triple full odds
The hunt that nearly broke me was doing 23,000~ resets for charmander in FireRed on a single system. No chance to phase, but god in heaven did it go on way too long.
Kinda annoyed I barely missed the shiny vulpix, Twitch notifications don't work for me for some reason. Congrats on the Vulpix though! Can't wait for the video! Merry Christmas!
I'm doing my first legit hunt of a shiny rayquaza in pokemon emerald. I haven't gotten too far yet however I fixed the game battery and everything and it is thankfully a legit cartidge i've come to find out which is cool. I think i'm about 150-200 encounters. Good luck on your hunts you're on another level. I could never imagine getting that many shinys in a row that sounds like hell
Gold and Silver offer a lot of hunts you can do exclusively over Crystal as well as earlier targets. Full odds Magmar is available much earlier in Burned Tower in G/S but it's Mt Silver in Crystal.
love watching shiny hunting vids wilest i shiny hunt. i know gen 2 stats determine the shiny but the fact all 8 pigys were female is crazy that poor male shiny pidgy looking for his sisters were are they there all in sonikks box lol
For phasing I believe that might be held by SH_Lucious who went a stupid amount of phases for Bronzor (55%) in BDSP. Hard to think of worse phase hunts than that.
I had one of these, in dark cave in hgss its a 60% geodude, 39% zubat and i found 5 geodudes before zubat, not as ridiculous but definitely has the same energy
I’m going through this arc rn. On phase 9 for gen 2 shiny Clefairy and dear god do I want it to end. Always going for the more painful repel trick from now on. Good god I hate hunting this gen sometimes
On my silver game as a kid I caught a shiny pidgey early. I evolved it to pidgeot and eventually leveled to 100. I realize now how lucky that was. I wonder if the save is still on the game or if the battery is dead….
Reminds me how i have gotten st least 26 shiny nosepasses snd 14 shiny yanmas going for horde houndour in pokemon x... I've lost count of the encounters and gave away several of the shinies to random people growing up lol
So Ive heard the term "phase" a bit when it comes to people and shiny Pokemon. Is a phase in a shiny hunt the amount of time between finding *a* shiny in general, and saying X phases before my target is just how many non targets I got before the one I wanted?
some pidgey enthusiast somewhere out there is freaking out over this crying also almost every single pidgey sent out into battle managed to be sent out against another pidgey, meaning you failed the coinflip twice as much when you got the shiny... mmm salt on the wound
You might be able to help me as I'm in a similar situation and information on Gen 2 is so scarce I'm struggling. Basically, I want a shiny male Mareep, 15x phases and 4x are female. I can backup my saves and look at them in PKHeX and every female Mareep is identical, female, 7 Attack IV's. This is actually a trend I've noticed phasing in the past, before this hunt as well, the Pokemon in the code are completely identical, the same exact Pokemon (by my understanding, there are 8x possible different Attack IV's, 4x are numbers between 1 and 7 = female, and 4x are numbers between 8 and 15 = male, so 8x possible different shiny Pokemon, but this time and in the past while phasing I get many of the same exact 1 in 8 shiny. Oh, and every Gen 2 shiny Mareep on RUclips is female, only helping fuel my paranoia. I feel like there's something about Gen 2 RNG I'm missing but there's nothing on this that I can find. 8x phases in, I began turning on my console on 6x hours before I began hunting, after the 15x, I've now started sitting on the screen before you enter the save, thinking that might change something. Basically I'm just asking if there's any information on this and Gen 2 RNG in general?
The only thing I've ever been able to determine (or strongly at least) is that the RNG is tied to the clock. Myself and a bunch of other shiny hunters phased a lot for a particular target. In some cases, people did a ridiculous and likely improbable amount of phases for something. I would agree there's something not quite right sometimes. According to this video - ruclips.net/video/-x7xuYSb7Lk/видео.html - by leaving the clock as "unset" for time specific hunts, in my case Vulpix during the day, it would likely be causing you to go over the same frames. I think, anyway. Essentially, we leave the clock as "set" and every time we need to change it to restart the hunt, we put in the password, set the time again, save and then reset to begin the hunt. It seems to be the way as I got Vulpix on the 2nd phase after doing this. As for your hunt, I don't know if this is applicable or not but that's what I have. I also got the same 1/8 Attack DV while doing this. I'm currently at 30,000 first phase for Magmar, so who knows if that hunt will be the same as this. Sadly, RNG information is very lacking in Gen 2. People just want Celebi and to never touch it again. Hopefully someone figures it out someday. Good luck on your hunt, hope this has helped somewhat.
I can't imagine doing this kind of hunt. My worst hunt was for a roaring moon and I got 4 shiny zweilous before I found a shiny moon. This is so much worse, good lord
Two reasons. First, it's significantly slower. There's only a few scenarios in which Sweet Scent is more optimal such as surfing encounters, places with low encounter rare like Underwater in Hoenn or Three Isle Port in FireRed and LeafGreen. Second, you can't repel trick and do sweet scent at the same time. Sweet Scent is base encounters so Vulpix would have reverted to being a 10% spawn in this particular case.
I need to know how you do this. Hours of shiny hunting and video editing. Where do you find the time? I’ve spent HOURS upon HOURS RE AND SR and have not found a single shiny
I can’t tell are you playing on an emulator or are you playing on actual original cartridge hardware like Game Boy player or using Cetra and playing the 3DS version
The degeneration of your tone of voice, I felt for you so bad! I wonder though (just a hunch) if this has something to do with the combo of the repel trick and the stats? Maybe the luck is skewed for that EXACT pidgey if the repel trick is narrowing the stat margins. Seems more likely than the raw chance....be interesting if anyone has the ability to check that (I don't hahaha). Great video nonetheless!!
Sonniks, for fire type in this series why not go for a 1/128 egg hatch one, I know u love full odds but it's something new so why not? Love the video tho, I was in stream during in some of the pidgeys u caught, loved to be there 💖
He wouldn't do the 1/128 eggs because he's a full odds hunter, especially when it comes to quests like this. As a full odds hunter myself, I don't think hatching Gen 2 eggs would feel remotely rewarding for me compared with full odds - sure it would be easier than phasing eight times on Pidgey, but you don't hunt full odds because it's easy. Methods are a great option for those who want the shiny and/or don't have much time to hunt and there's nothing wrong with them, but those who choose full odds generally do so for the journey.
What Ninety said covers it plus, this is Silver. The Odd Egg is Crystal only. I don't really hold much value in reduced odds shinies. Magmar hunt will be in Burned Tower which I'm really looking forward to.
Yeah I think it is. They have identical stats too, same DV range. Gen 2's shiny pool for stats is incredibly small so it's very common for it to happen. Good catch btw, ty for watching :)
Hunt a lot on Twitch. If you'd like to watch along as you hunt, make sure you're following me! - www.twitch.tv/sonikks
Imagine that there is a hack were the game automatically shiny hunts for you, but that would be considered as cheating for sure.
May i ask how many hours that took lol
"vulpix is only 37.5%. i could make it 100%, but..."
and so the saga begins
From the Vulpix video: I wouldn’t mind a couple of Pidgeys
Silver: *and i took that personally*
Steve … you _have_ to do a PTQ video now. I need to see six Pidgeys take on the Champion. They deserve the limelight.
Man's finally completed his pidgey dream team quest 🙌
1 pidgey for every gym
*After 3rd Pidgey*
Sonikks: The pidgey deserves a showcase, even if its the third one. Hopefully no more though..
Narrator: There were *many* more
"No way! Shiny Pidgey! Phaaaase oneee. Wow that looks really cool!" if only he knew.
He sounded so happy with the first one lmao, excellent video Steve!
The anguish when the 5th one appeared, I could feel that.
Alternate title: Watch English man slowly lose his sanity over wrong coloured virtual birds
Great video dude lmao, glad you finally got Vulpix, looking forward to that video!
You can really hear a part of him dying with each Pidgey lol.
14:35 This reaction got me. 😂 Cannot believe how long that phase took too, wow. I'm glad you did finally get Vulpix, though.
Phase 5 and 8 were so brutal... I'm so glad you got Vulpix!!! 💖🙌🏼 Legend!
You could hear your heart breaking more and more with every Pidgey. For what it's worth, friend, congratulations on your sparkling aviary!
68,248 encounters, that’s some serious dedication
merry christmas man, hope you have a good one
This was such a long arduous quest Sonikks. Constantly seeing your posts on social media of all 8 Shiny Pidgeys and the jokes you made like “He sit. Good boi.” Or “Thanksgiving at my house this year” were hilarious 🤣 or all the “Shiny Vulpix today or we riot” or “it’s a skill issue”. Finally. Congratulations Sonikks! Merry Christmas! ✨
Bird keepers unite! 🐦
One hell of a hunt man. Gen 2 birds must be cursed right? Lol. Either way, congrats for sticking through it till the end!
the story of the pidgeotto found on the playground is really nice, i can imagine how exciting that must have been at the time!
I like how your first reaction is yay then as more shiny pidgeys appeared, your demeanor changes to "can you please gtfo?"
That 8th Pidgey was a jerk waiting 25,000+ encounters just so you could get another Pidgey
can already tell this will be a banger
High encounter hunt and high phase count brothers. Lol! Super happy for you to finally end this hunt. Enjoyed watching all the birds! Looking forward to the Vulpix vid!
I was about to give up my Dreepy hunt (3060 eggs, masuda + charm), but hearing your pain and agony has inspired me to keep going
did u get it??
did u get it??
Nope, currently at 3300. I got one from an outbreak but I'm still determined to get one through eggs
@@mikejo4456 Godspeed
God watching this unfold real time over your social media was unreal, glad for you now that this is over good luck to everyone
Congrats on the PTQ (+2)! But more importantly, I'm so glad you got your Vulpix. Bright side, now that it's over, hopefully it can be a really funny story rather than just feeling like a seemingly endless onslaught of Pidgey...
Looking forward to seeing the Vulpix video soon, and Happy Holidays!
merry chrysalis eve everyone and may your shiny luck remain pristine
Mary Chrysler!
The fabled shiny Pidgey badge quest, been waiting for this one!
Ah yes a full team and 2 extras in case of unseen releases. Good hunt mate!
I've really enjoyed following this hunt on your streams, it's been a long one, but you found it in the end! Congratz!
Congrats Steve. I’m glad it’s over for you. Pidgey team quest it is
Wonderful video as always! Your intro reminded me of my Dynamax Adventure Groudon hunt, which took 298 encounters with the charm and over 20 phases. I hunted it overe the course of a month, and even though it was a pain to hunt, it's a token of my sheer dedication and a very cool trophy especially in an apricorn ball.
Sonikks: Shiny Vulpix please! Shiny Pidgey: Lmao nope!
The compilation of despair. Mad respect for keeping at the hunt after so much misfortune. Will watch your Vulpix video yet. I expect you to sound as happy and excited as a child on Christmas morning! 😂
Merry Christmas Steve, love the thumbnail lol. Glad this saga is over for you.
Pidgey Number one: "Oh that looks cool!"
And that was the moment, disaster was summoned
Anyways, congrats on finally finishing the Vulpix Hunt Steve! May the other hunts bless you and treat you better! ^.^
It was both fun and pain to watch this hunt live but still fun nonetheless!
Congratz!
thanks for your videos helps a lot got too shinys after resting its cool.
Wow 8 Pidgey's. The sprites looks great in Gen 2 Silver. I hope Vulpix will shiny soon. Congrats
In a world where shiny hunting is becoming annoying for how easy it is I LOVE THAT SOMEONE STILL GOES THE OLD FASHIONED WAY P.S. my unluckiest shiny hunt ever was zapdos in fire red…. 7 months! But I love my zapdos, he was my first shiny legendary ever and he owns a special place in my heart
Damn, half a box full of shiny Pidgey! I don´t know if you are lucky or not hahaha!
Not only did you get 8 pidgeys in a row, you got 8 female pidgeys all with the same stats Attack 19, defense 19, special atk 17, special def 17 and speed 23
i think you found the exact same pidgey 8 times
that's just how shinies work in gen 2 I think
@@Ganobrator Yeah shinies are tied to specific dvs. Every stat has a dv of 10 except attack, which can vary.
I've never seen someone so devastated to encounter a shiny Pokemon
Re-stumbling across your channel after a few months of hunting on and off my own shiny cyndaquil on the anbernic RG35XX handheld emulator hunting first on gold then switched after nearly 16,000 resets to silver and I FINALLY got the bugger after 18,401 just shy of triple full odds
My god, not even one Stantler phase......... so glad this hunt is over for you now ;;;
I love the title - I remember chat brainstorming some great options, and it makes me happy to see one made the cut! Congrats, and merry Christmas :)
I don't watch 100% of your vids, but this one looks like a banger.
The hunt that nearly broke me was doing 23,000~ resets for charmander in FireRed on a single system. No chance to phase, but god in heaven did it go on way too long.
Kinda annoyed I barely missed the shiny vulpix, Twitch notifications don't work for me for some reason. Congrats on the Vulpix though! Can't wait for the video!
Merry Christmas!
Good grief, you are the pidgey champion 😵
Been waiting so long for this!
When this saga was so good that your copy of Silver decided to give us a sequel
My first ever organic shiny was my second encounter in X, a female Pidgey who became the mvp of the team. I still adore her t thus day.
I'm doing my first legit hunt of a shiny rayquaza in pokemon emerald. I haven't gotten too far yet however I fixed the game battery and everything and it is thankfully a legit cartidge i've come to find out which is cool. I think i'm about 150-200 encounters. Good luck on your hunts you're on another level. I could never imagine getting that many shinys in a row that sounds like hell
Battery doesn't matter in Emerald. Are you doing Run Aways or Soft Resets?
Shiny Pidgeot: "Very cool sprite"
I didn't know diarrhea green was in fashion
He said sprite, not color
11:43 i was here kek, cant believe i thought 4 pidgeys would be the end
Now you need to do a play through of the pidgey
“I’m going to guess ‘status ok’” 😂
Happy holidays and congrats, i think, for the shinies!
363!
"The Nightmare Before Christmas"
I have like 1 swellow and 3 tailows from hunting for nincada on 116 right by rustboro city in ruby. Lol Congrats on the shinies
I'm not ready for when this kind of hunt happens to me
27:30 what hunt are you refferencing here? is that one only possible in gold/silver but not crystal?
Gold and Silver offer a lot of hunts you can do exclusively over Crystal as well as earlier targets. Full odds Magmar is available much earlier in Burned Tower in G/S but it's Mt Silver in Crystal.
Lol damn I’m at Phase 10 for Growlithe in Fire red. I have 2 Ekans, 4 Pidgey and 3 Meowth. I took a massive break from that hunt.
love watching shiny hunting vids wilest i shiny hunt. i know gen 2 stats determine the shiny but the fact all 8 pigys were female is crazy that poor male shiny pidgy looking for his sisters were are they there all in sonikks box lol
Crazy 8 Pidgeys. Lol! So how long till Shiny Pidgey number 9, you wonder? Lol!
9 phases for an almost 40%?????????? Bad game. Grats on all the baby birds! Too many
I’ve got 6 shiny druddigon in black 2 trying for zweilous… I feel your pain
Wouldn't this be the unluckiest hunt ever recorded holy moly
For phasing I believe that might be held by SH_Lucious who went a stupid amount of phases for Bronzor (55%) in BDSP. Hard to think of worse phase hunts than that.
@@Sonikks it's scary to even think there could be a worse one 😂
falkner was really onto something
I'm at 13,500 in my first route Just Get Anything Crystal run. I'd kill for a shiny bird right now. But I'm glad your Pidgey saga is over.
I had one of these, in dark cave in hgss its a 60% geodude, 39% zubat and i found 5 geodudes before zubat, not as ridiculous but definitely has the same energy
I’m going through this arc rn. On phase 9 for gen 2 shiny Clefairy and dear god do I want it to end. Always going for the more painful repel trick from now on. Good god I hate hunting this gen sometimes
On my silver game as a kid I caught a shiny pidgey early. I evolved it to pidgeot and eventually leveled to 100. I realize now how lucky that was. I wonder if the save is still on the game or if the battery is dead….
Merry Christmas everyone and may Santa bless your hunts
14:35 Shiny Pidgey....
NoOoOOoooOoo!!
Reminds me how i have gotten st least 26 shiny nosepasses snd 14 shiny yanmas going for horde houndour in pokemon x... I've lost count of the encounters and gave away several of the shinies to random people growing up lol
Oh, it's beautiful.
Pidgeys... Pidgeys Everywhere
So Ive heard the term "phase" a bit when it comes to people and shiny Pokemon.
Is a phase in a shiny hunt the amount of time between finding *a* shiny in general, and saying X phases before my target is just how many non targets I got before the one I wanted?
It's nothing to do with time. A shiny Weedle while hunting for Caterpie is phase 1 for Shiny Caterpie, for example.
@@Sonikks well. You didn't answer his question. What defines a "phase"?
I literally explained it...? It's something that isn't your target
@@Sonikks yeah you explained it don't worry bout that dude. Thanks for the info
@@ARage5 All good
The Saga of Bird Keeper Steve ....
Ah this reminds me of my FRLG Meowth hunt where i went 6 phases and 70,000+ encounters for it
some pidgey enthusiast somewhere out there is freaking out over this crying
also almost every single pidgey sent out into battle managed to be sent out against another pidgey, meaning you failed the coinflip twice as much when you got the shiny... mmm salt on the wound
You might be able to help me as I'm in a similar situation and information on Gen 2 is so scarce I'm struggling.
Basically, I want a shiny male Mareep, 15x phases and 4x are female.
I can backup my saves and look at them in PKHeX and every female Mareep is identical, female, 7 Attack IV's. This is actually a trend I've noticed phasing in the past, before this hunt as well, the Pokemon in the code are completely identical, the same exact Pokemon (by my understanding, there are 8x possible different Attack IV's, 4x are numbers between 1 and 7 = female, and 4x are numbers between 8 and 15 = male, so 8x possible different shiny Pokemon, but this time and in the past while phasing I get many of the same exact 1 in 8 shiny.
Oh, and every Gen 2 shiny Mareep on RUclips is female, only helping fuel my paranoia.
I feel like there's something about Gen 2 RNG I'm missing but there's nothing on this that I can find. 8x phases in, I began turning on my console on 6x hours before I began hunting, after the 15x, I've now started sitting on the screen before you enter the save, thinking that might change something.
Basically I'm just asking if there's any information on this and Gen 2 RNG in general?
The only thing I've ever been able to determine (or strongly at least) is that the RNG is tied to the clock. Myself and a bunch of other shiny hunters phased a lot for a particular target. In some cases, people did a ridiculous and likely improbable amount of phases for something. I would agree there's something not quite right sometimes.
According to this video - ruclips.net/video/-x7xuYSb7Lk/видео.html - by leaving the clock as "unset" for time specific hunts, in my case Vulpix during the day, it would likely be causing you to go over the same frames. I think, anyway. Essentially, we leave the clock as "set" and every time we need to change it to restart the hunt, we put in the password, set the time again, save and then reset to begin the hunt. It seems to be the way as I got Vulpix on the 2nd phase after doing this.
As for your hunt, I don't know if this is applicable or not but that's what I have. I also got the same 1/8 Attack DV while doing this. I'm currently at 30,000 first phase for Magmar, so who knows if that hunt will be the same as this.
Sadly, RNG information is very lacking in Gen 2. People just want Celebi and to never touch it again. Hopefully someone figures it out someday. Good luck on your hunt, hope this has helped somewhat.
Cursed (Blessed???) PTQ video. So happy that Vulpix decided to finally happen.
I can't imagine doing this kind of hunt. My worst hunt was for a roaring moon and I got 4 shiny zweilous before I found a shiny moon. This is so much worse, good lord
I started hunting for a shiny spiritomb in gen 8 a year ago. Gave up when gen 9 released. I will never see that damn thing in my life.
Merry Christmas and happy holidays too all . Be safe. love your families and friends
The eight stages of grief.
Bro you have the patience of a saint damn 6 duplicate shinies
Question, why do you run/bike around in the tall grass instead of using sweet scent? Is there a factual reason, or is it just preference?
Two reasons. First, it's significantly slower. There's only a few scenarios in which Sweet Scent is more optimal such as surfing encounters, places with low encounter rare like Underwater in Hoenn or Three Isle Port in FireRed and LeafGreen.
Second, you can't repel trick and do sweet scent at the same time. Sweet Scent is base encounters so Vulpix would have reverted to being a 10% spawn in this particular case.
I need to know how you do this. Hours of shiny hunting and video editing. Where do you find the time? I’ve spent HOURS upon HOURS RE AND SR and have not found a single shiny
Dude, I feel so bad for you.
And I thought 5000+ eggs in heart gold for a freaking chikorita was bad...
And no I still haven't gotten the shiny yet...
Gongrats🎉
Pidgey best boi!
I hope one day we get a video on getting a shiny electrode and naming it gurt! Obviously in gen 2
I can’t tell are you playing on an emulator or are you playing on actual original cartridge hardware like Game Boy player or using Cetra and playing the 3DS version
Gamecube.
@@Sonikks ok so gameboy player right now I can’t play that because my Game Boy color save cartridge back up device broke and I need to find a new one
The degeneration of your tone of voice, I felt for you so bad!
I wonder though (just a hunch) if this has something to do with the combo of the repel trick and the stats? Maybe the luck is skewed for that EXACT pidgey if the repel trick is narrowing the stat margins. Seems more likely than the raw chance....be interesting if anyone has the ability to check that (I don't hahaha).
Great video nonetheless!!
Sonniks, for fire type in this series why not go for a 1/128 egg hatch one, I know u love full odds but it's something new so why not? Love the video tho, I was in stream during in some of the pidgeys u caught, loved to be there 💖
He wouldn't do the 1/128 eggs because he's a full odds hunter, especially when it comes to quests like this. As a full odds hunter myself, I don't think hatching Gen 2 eggs would feel remotely rewarding for me compared with full odds - sure it would be easier than phasing eight times on Pidgey, but you don't hunt full odds because it's easy. Methods are a great option for those who want the shiny and/or don't have much time to hunt and there's nothing wrong with them, but those who choose full odds generally do so for the journey.
@@NinetyFiveFathoms I thought that idea cuz already hatching eggs in gen 2 takes so much time
What Ninety said covers it plus, this is Silver. The Odd Egg is Crystal only. I don't really hold much value in reduced odds shinies. Magmar hunt will be in Burned Tower which I'm really looking forward to.
The Pidgeyning
Wooow 25646 encounters on that last phase, that's painful.
Gen 2 is so awesome 💛
50/50 split between the middle left and middle right grass tiles with regards to shinies.
Also... all of them were female. That might just be a weird Gen II shiny mechanics thing though.
Yeah I think it is. They have identical stats too, same DV range. Gen 2's shiny pool for stats is incredibly small so it's very common for it to happen. Good catch btw, ty for watching :)