How Shohei Ohtani's gambling scandal compares to Pete Rose's
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Thursday is opening day for most of Major League Baseball, but the alleged gambling scandal involving the interpreter of LA Dodgers star Shohei Ohtani is drawing attention away from the diamond. Ohtani denied ever placing any bets on sporting events and said he was a victim of theft. Keith O'Brien, author of "Charlie Hustle," joins CBS News to unpack baseball's biggest gambling scandal since Pete Rose's.
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Welcome to America Shohei...... In this country, if you are innocent, no one really cares. They just want you to be guilty, no matter what.... I'm behind you 100%. You're the only 2-WAY PLAYER in the world... No comparison..
Say the dude from Vietnam. lol
I agree with you.
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Well said. It's unfathomable to most Americans the state of Shohei's mind and see things from his perspectives. After all, the US is still a baby and immature country compared to Japan, where generations and generations of your ancestors matter. In America, just like China, most people don't even know their ancestors especially from where they are from originally.
90% of the stuff here sounds like Ohtani is the one having the gambling issue. This makes me sick. I really wish Ohtani sue this network after everything is done.
I agree, and the woman who did the interview with Ippei has no credibility she's a no name jounalist should be sued to try and ruin Shohei by printing two misinformation statements given by Ippei whose a known liar without checking the facts.
I agree, and the espn Iady who did the interview has no credibility a no name jounalist should be sued to try and ruin Shohei by printing two misinformation statements given by Ippei whose a known liar without checking the facts.
Put yourself in his shoes. What would have to happen for your interpreter to get access to your bank account AND $4.5m goes missing and neither you nor your money manager nor accountant notices… come on. It’s weird.
How would this compare to Pete’s? It wasn’t even ohtani gambling. This is a horrible media take.
I can imagine that it's difficult for many Americans who do not know Ohtani's history and upbringing in Japan, including how he was even at the Angels, to believe fully what Ohtani explained is believable and truth. But as a Japanese who has followed him in Japan and as he moved to MLB, I can attest to that what he said is 100% believable.
Ohtani since he was a young boy was very focused with specific goals set and worked diligently on the path to achieving them. His parents and especially his mother was instrumental in providing the support he needed so that he can focus 100% on his tasks, baseball. There have been documentaries on TV on Ohtani as well as his appearances as a guest on TV shows in Japan in which Ohtani explained that his mother took 100% control of his money (all income and expenses including the dealings with his accountant). She gave Ohtani monthly allowance of a little sum of money. Ohtani used team dormitory and team meals 100% to focus on baseball. This is how he lived in Japan as a NPB player. Ohtani is known to be frugal and does not spend money like normal pro athletes do. He is not interested in fashion, clothing, shoes, and cars, and not interested in tangible material stuff. Again, this is very well known fact about him in Japan.
Ippei Mizuhara was smart in that he put himself in the position with Ohtani to take care of all of his personal duties out side of baseball so that Ohtani can just focus on baseball as he did in Japan. The identical set up that he had with his mother. Ippei was a perfect man for it and Ohtani trusted him 100%. So in this context, Ippei had this role for Ohtani since he moved to the USA to become a MLB player. Ippei is not just a translator for Ohtani. Ippei was essentially Ohtani's personal caretaker, personal assistant, consultant, butler, driver, and shopper and managed all aspects of Ohtani’s life outside of baseball, tasked to set him up in the USA. He therefore had helped him open his bank accounts, managed his finances and his accountants, had access to Ohtani's bank accounts and was helping him setting up all the payables, bills for his expenses etc etc. Don't forget, and sadly, Ohtani has no experience managing his own money in the past, he is also oblivious to all the living expenses especially in the USA. Ippei was the perfect friend and paid worker for him to do these tasks. In this set up, Ippei can easily transfer Ohtani's money, even 4.5 million without Ohtani knowing (again, Ohtani has been very naive, trusting and indifferent about money matters, except that he knows that he has been getting 50 to 75 million per year on endorsements and baseball contracts even in the past years, so 4.5 million divided into nine separate transfer may not be so significant in this light and could not be noticeable if he was trusting Ippei to manage) Personal income taxes are lower in the USA than in Japan so who knows, Ohtani would not miss 4.5 million based on his income. Agent is there to deal with the baseball contracts and he is not Japanese so he would not have known his personal contents. This is why Ippei is said to have been paid upwards of $400,000 per year to work for Ohtani, where as a regular personal translator working 9 to 5 is paid $150,000ish for a pro-athlete.
Don't forget that Ippei was in all communications between Ohtani and his team members, including the team management, spokesperson, and lawyers, essentially every non-Japanese speaker on his side, which is everyone except Yamamoto and Ippei. Ippei was in a perfect position to manipulate all information and communications.
So you guys take a rest on speculating and jumping to conclusion about Ohtani in this situation. Eventually the investigation will shed a better light on what I am talking about.
It's going to be interesting... If this was any random player, the MLB and Dodgers would suspend/suspending ban and made a big deal about protecting the sanctity of the game, "Gambling/connections to sports gambling especially MLB will not be tolerated in any circumstance" Yet now they, the Commissioner/Dodger brass, are scrambling to sweep this under the rug and make this go away... They know without a doubt Ohtani has to be 100% innocent and clear, or he receives a Lifetime Ban. Are they willing to do that to the most exciting and arguably the best MLB player of the 21st Century? This has everything to do with their stern, and arrogant treatment of Pete Rose... Did Pete deserve it? Yes, maybe no... its debatable. But MLB loved to be the authoritive figure head over Pete's ban in the MLB... Ohtani cannot receive a harsh suspension/fine/treatment... Its a Ban (even if he played a minor role with his interpreter) LIFETIME BAN. If the MLB had lifted the ban on Pete Rose within the last decade, they'd have grounds to stand on for a harsh suspension, and reinstatement, but they will lose ALL INTREGITY if they let this slide... And will this lead into other players getting off scotfree? There is no way Ohtani was oblivious to his interpreter gambling on baseball... If he knew and didn't say STOP IMMEDIATELY or you're FIRED they he knew enough to be betting himself.
Once again the news media reports always never look at all the logical facts of the matter. They love blowing things out of proportion. If it was othani then why did he defer his 700 million dollars contract to at the end of his 10th year contract. If I was a addicted gambler I would want all my money so I can gamble it. And him so called helping out his Translator why wouldn't he just give his translator all the money at one time to pay off his so called gambling debt instead of making a 500,000 withdrawal 4 different times. I'm not even an Investigated reporter and I do better investigating then the new media that should be Censored for all the dirty laundry they love to throw around. No wonder why people hate the news media reports that are so full of negative reports, half-truths and outright lies!!! 🤥
As an American living in Japan, it's refreshing to know American Exceptionalism is not uniquely American. The hubris of presuming you know everything about Ohtani and that people do not change over time is quite entertaining. The first time I heard of this story, my Japanese friend said that Ippei was guilty, but "of course, he was raised in America and not Japan." I almost told her to be careful and that her racism was showing. Naturally growing up American, I was taught similarly to Ohtani but in an evil other-side-of-the-coin way. Like Ohtanis' mother, but in an evil conniving fashion, my parents and grandparents molded me to cheat, steal, and con others to make my way through life. If only I had been born in Japan and not raised in the dark side with my cold-hearted small-town American brethren. Maybe then I could ignorantly assume I know all people of one nationality are the same. God bless Ohtani for not knowing a quarter, nickel, dime, or 500,000 dollars from each other.
Ohtani is just not a type of person who would get into gambling
Ohtani is completely opposite to Pete Rose. Evil Rose and innocent Ohtani. What a contrast!
It is nonsense compared Pete and Shohei. Pete bet his own games and still unclear about if he sent signs to outside from the bench which side he bet on with his baseball cap.
If you know anything abut Shohei Ohtani, you'll know he has no interest in money. He doesn't play for money, he doesn't make his decisions around money. He's not Americanized like Ippei who was raised/educated in the US.
Shohei’s mom was managing his finances early part of his pro career as a multimillionaire. Shohei’s decisions are not motivated or driven by money. Unfortunately he trusted the wrong person to have so much access to his financial matters, or Ippe just outright stole Shohei’s account info, PIN, etc.
A gambling addiction really has very little to do with money.
Well said. It's unfathomable to most Americans the state of Shohei's mind and see things from his perspectives. After all, the US is still a baby and immature country compared to Japan, where generations and generations of your ancestors matter. In America, just like China, most people don't even know their ancestors especially from where they are from originally.
It's unfathomable to most Americans the mindset of Shohei and see things from his perspectives. After all, the US is still a baby(250 yrs) and immature as a nation compared to Japan (+2600 yrs), where generations and generations of your ancestors matter. In America, just like China, most people don't even know their ancestors especially from where they are from originally.
It's unfathomable to most Americans the mindset of Shohei and see things from his perspectives. After all, the US is still a baby(250 yrs) and immature as a nation compared to Japan (+2600 yrs), where generations and generations of your ancestors matter. In America, just like China, most people don't even know their ancestors especially from where they are from originally.
As a fan for 10years, just feel you american media know too little about Shohei.
A man who entrusted all of his salary to his mom during his NPB years, of which he was given $800 a month for allowance, but ended up only using $80 a month, a man who only travels between the stadium and his home, no girls, no alcohol, no nothing but lives and breathes baseball, allegedly has made illegal bets on sports and possibly risked getting a life time ban from the only thing he knows how to do. Got it.
You media should apologize to Shohei Otani.
this is comparing apples to oranges ... ridiculous story ...
Forget the haters that comes on making assumptions and accusations without facts, but the media are accusing him because it brings controversy and ratings to their show.
I believe He's Innocent.
Monkey never cramp. Unicorn never bet. Show Big, Kawa Small.
Comparing with Rose, who had been gambling openly and bet in baseball. Having sexual relationships with minors, corked bats…it’s kind of laughable.
I agree, and remember Pete Rose was'nt a player but a manager in the dugout when he was gambling, just like Ippei is a translater whose in the dugout. The other famous betting scandal was in 1919 from the Chicago White Sox, believing they were underpaid by owner Charles Comiskey, the players threw the 1919 World Series in exchange for payoffs (that's when players were making peanuts, that's why most worked in second jobs) But people are delusional and nuts to think Shohei was gambling, he makes over a hundred million dollars in endorsements have everything to lose in his prime and risk his entire career. He has no history of gambling. Even his own teammates said he refused to go to casino's with them.
This year, Otani will study batting and English.
This gives off Selena/Yolanda Saldívar vibes.
Thought that was Jim Carey Playing Pete in a movie for a second
i thought so too 😂
Ohtani is both sexy and very entertaining to watch.
How an employee low profile could reach 4.5 millions of gambling debts??????
Haven't these people interviewed Matthew Bowyer's lawyer?
Pete Rose was'nt a player but a manager in the dugout when he was gambling, just like Ippei is a translater whose in the dugout. The other famous betting scandal was in 1919 from the Chicago White Sox, believing they were underpaid by owner Charles Comiskey, the players threw the 1919 World Series in exchange for payoffs (that's when players were making peanuts, most worked in second jobs) But people are delusional and nuts to think Shohei was gambling which he has no history of, he makes over a hundred million dollars in endorsements, have everything to lose in his prime and risk his entire career. Even his own teammates said he refused to go to casino's with them.
they should not have banned Pete Rose. unless he was betting against his team. it's unethical to assume you can or should control every aspect of baseball. nowadays, PEDs-steroids goes unmonitored. and pitchers get checked for tacky-substances. that's a glaring inconsistency.
The major difference between them is that Shohei Ohtani, if he is kicked out of MLB, can always play in Japan and get paid big money. Pete Rose once kicked out of MLB, had no where to go making the kind of money he was making.
IF he's guilty of betting on Baseball, he should be punished the same as Rose.
If they don't do that, then Rose should be reinstated.
Whereever there are human there will be scandals.
MJS Doesn't look good, his bank would have told him if 4.5 million was taken out of his account.
It doesn't.
Worse than Pete. Ban him.
If his name was Lebron / Jordan / Kobe even T. Brady. most likely wouldn't get so many criticisms. but because he's Asian is easy to pick on him cause society don't like good guys. no facts have come out yet. but he's guilty as hell according to the Haters = more of envy / racism / Jealous.
Ohtani bet on baseball. You don’t lose 4.5 million dollars without betting on what you know best. No way he didn’t notice almost 5 million dollars missing. His translator was placing bets for him.
Let Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.....2 sets of rules because of $$$$$$$$ the league would loose in marketing Ohtani ...Major League Baseball ought to be ashamed! B.SHIT
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Is Shohei Otani's interpreter Ippei Mizuhara a Korean resident in Japan?Is he pretending to be Japanese by using a Japanese name?Did he drive a Korean car at first?Most of Japan's anti-social criminal organizations, or yakuza, are Koreans living in Japan.In Japan, very few Japanese people drive Korean-made cars. Ippei Mizuhara's career is full of lies.Was he sent to destroy Shohei Otani and become a parasite?Was he planning to ruin Shohei Otani by incurring huge debts and having Shohei Otani replace him?Ippei Mizuhara was aware that he had a weakness for gambling.Did he continue to accumulate debt?
Let Pete in!!!!
lol they think he’s innocent la fans are delusional he’s done
You going to steal 4 mil to gamble? Not likely!
Pete Rose 🌹 needs to be in the Hall of Fame along with Dave Baker .
Asians dont gamble ‼️
Ban ohtani. He’s a gambler. It’s in his blood *hermines voice *
AMERICAN TRY TO DESTROY THE CARRER ALL MLB PLAYER SPECIALLY, WHEN THEY ,INMIGRANT ,OR BETTER THAN THE AMERICAN