BEWARE You're Buying FAKE Golf Products!
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
- Can you spot the fake item from the real one? Most people out there are buying counterfeit equipment online. PGA Show 2024
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The single biggest factor driving ‘fakes’ is the fact that a genuine costs way too much.
No. The biggest driving factor is that people would rather be seen as “cool” with the “cool” brands instead of buying quality products within their budget. Even if that means getting secondhand. Fakes are a byproduct of consumerism and FOMO.
That’s the dumbest excuse I’ve ever heard. You can buy used clubs at any price
@@ajalikhanz that's excellent. i will buy your used clubs for a dollar
No. The biggest driving factor is that people would rather be seen as “cool” with the “cool” brands instead of buying quality products within their budget. Even if that means getting secondhand. Fakes are a byproduct of consumerism and FOMO.
Or China
well I guess if it only costs 50 cents to make, then we are being way overcharged for the real items! I buy Chinese grips for all of my clubs and they last just as long as Winn or Golf Pride but are 10 cents on the dollar. Maybe its time for these manufacturers to start dropping their prices and there will be no incentive to buy fake...
But if they do that, golf might actually become an affordable sport. Can’t have that. 😂
Exactly. If the headcovers are nearly identical and one can be made for '50 cents' then what all of us already knew is painfully obvious. There is a huge amount of price gouging going on. But, anyone who spends $50 for a Scotty headcover had 'sucker' tattooed on their forehead anyway. Might as well string a few salmon around your neck and walk along the river banks in Alaska for a few hours.
there wouldn't be a demand for fake products if all the products weren't overpriced. Why are they overpriced? These mofo companies fork out millions to sponsor tour players and fit the bill to the consumer
Yeah, grips are the one thing I don't really feel bad about buying cheap knockoffs. Got some tour velvet lookalikes without the branding for $2 a piece. They feel great.
maybe it's time to take NOVELTY gear out of professional golf!
when all this crap was originally designed, it was for HIGH HANDICAP golfers and the elderly!! hahahah
none of us competitive players would touch ping irons, or oversize drivers...
so the pga became SHILL for the novelty club industry...changed all the golf courses so only gorillas with novelty equipment could compete...
and the rest is OVERPRICED novelty golf history!
no one will ever see a ben hogan or lee trevino or gary player again.
damn shame.
keep spending $500 for plastic golf clubs.
I'm sorry to tell you that those fake putter head covers are a fraction of the cost of the real ones and are probably manufactured in much the same way with similar materials in the same country. The easy solution to that particular product is to reduce the price of the genuine article.
made with EXACTLY the same materials...on EXACTLY the same machines...by EXACTLY the same wage slaves.
but without the novelty golf industry marketing budget.
The fake one cost 50c to make and so does the real one. They mad that they’re not making that money 😂
As for headcovers, I'd buy the $5 fake over the $50 original every time. Clubs, nope
@@coobay4786 yep that’s the way to go
@@coobay4786 Agreed. If an item is purely 'visual' and almost indistinguishable from the real thing and half the price? Yeah I'll take that every time. Fake clubs/balls? That's a different story
Unfortunately club manufacturers are contributing to the buying and selling of counterfeit products. The prices have become insulting to the average golfer.
Nice to see you cover something a little different. Thanks Mr. 7 Diamonds.
But why buy new then when there is an excellent opportunity to buy used clubs from legitimate sources?
Club manufactures aren’t doing shit to drive up costs, they’re researching and developing better clubs to push the game of golf forward. You want to mess around with bad/old tech, be my guest, but you can do that with used older equipment, you don’t need to buy a counterfeit item just to be able to say you have a new driver/putter/whatever.
@@ahastar1141some people like to treat themselves to a new item sometimes, whether it be a car, crockery, golf clubs, etc. We all know that a 2 year old driver has pretty much identical performance to the latest model ….. but life isn’t always logical.!
I think the problem isn't that counterfeits are being made, because after all if you want to play with a fake then go ahead, but the problem is that people are looking to buy the real thing, spending the same amount of money as buying the real thing, but being tricked and given a fake.
Counterfeit is a function of profit. The larger the profit margin, the greater the counterfeit. The most effective way to combat it is to reduce the profit margin. Just so you know, both head covers cost 50 cents to make. And if you are spending $1000 on any putter, you are getting ripped off. If you'd like to know a reasonable price, look at the Kirkland Costco stuff.
If that were true then $20 dollar bills wouldn’t be counterfeited more than 50’s and 100’s
@@SubZero-pi4jr not really no. 20's are used far more than 50's and 100's so less likely draw scrutiny in everyday use.
@@JP-rg1yj you just proved my point lol
@@SubZero-pi4jr I don't think I did, I was saying you made an inaccurate comparison. There's any number of reasons to counterfeit, for things where the real good has an extremely high profit margin it encourages a counterfeit market. That's why designer clothes are commonly faked compared to say, Levi's. As for money, there's a MUCH larger risk/reward to consider. The goal is to avoid getting caught while maximizing return. If your point was correct, then $1 bills would be the most common fakes
I got Mizuno MP20's 3-9 + PW for $255 from China and a Scotty Cameron for $79 and believe it or not they both helped my iron and wedge game and increased my putting game, and on top of that the MP20's feel fantastic and even came with golf pride grips on all of them. Buying clubs for $800+ is asburd to me.
It may be absurd to you, but when your cheap ass decides to buy a real used set or a new set, you'll understand the performance difference and hopefully quit giving Chinese organized crime your money. 3
Can’t buy fake golf products if you just keep using your 20 year old clubs
My clubs are 2005 Nike sasquatch irons. 2002 TaylorMade 7-9 v steel woods. Best clubs ever made
nowadays super-fakes are so well made than it is impossible to recognize them.A friend of mine sells expensive watches ( real ones ! ) and when he must buy for example a Rolex he needs to go in his lab , open the watch, check it with the lens to see if it is real or not.This guy is an expert , it is more than twenty years that he does this job and nevertheless he needs to go through all these proceedings to understand whether the watch is real or not.
I can't answer this question. If golf products were cheaper would there be less fakes?
Would the scammers make fake Kirkland balls and clubs? Maybe due to high demand and shortage of supply but not for the name.
If something sells for $50 you can bet there are fakes
A lot of people think that is all about price, but its really about the demand . Kirkland irons could be something people fake but by the time fakes hit the market, I would guess Kirkland is going to be stocking them so the drop off of demand will be quick and steep. People will basically fake any product that has decent demand as no seller wants to sit on fakes for very long.
I would say if you want to avoid fakes just be left handed. Since the real manufacturers don't bother making a left handed version of every right handed club that means it is even less likely a fake would.
You said it!
I accidentally bought a fake Scotty off eBay 15 years ago. I didn't even realize it was a fake for over a year. I went to a golf store which sold Scotty's and when I saw the model my putter was supposed to be I realized I was duped. The funny thing was some of my golf buddies were willing to buy the fake off me. I decided to toss it in the trash because I didn't want one of them to try and sell it and have someone else get ripped off.
I know a guy who bought a $2700 Morikawa tour scotty putter on eBay. Was $200 on Alibaba. Never got his money back , years went by and the buyer was gone by then. Buyer beware, this is the world we live in. We're getting screwed by all these big golf companies anyway, we're all getting ripped off. Screw everyone
A lot of comments here by people who don't understand how businesses work and complain about prices. Manufacturing costs are not the only thing that factor into the price of a product. Fakes are cheaper because they just copy. Brands need to pay designers, R&D staff, engineers, etc. to create products. They need to pay for rent for corporate buildings, office staff, and IT infrastructure (work e-mails, computers, pc programs, etc.). They also need to pay for marketing (paid media, events,etc.). Easy to charge half the price of MSRP for a fake when you pay overseas workers less than $500 a month. I understand some items are overpriced but its supply and demand, we like scottys and collect them because of the exclusivity. If no one bought it, the price would go down.
I would buy a fake circle T Scotty instead of a real $5k one and be happy w it as long as I knew it was a fake. The crazy pricing is what leads to this. Scammers aren’t faking Ramen noodles. Just “$5000” blade putters that are totally “tour use only” even though I’ve seen hundreds at many different golf clubs that weren’t on tour…
On drivers and balls there probably is a performance difference, but on putters and grips can there be? If a fake Scotty Cameron is so well made that you can't tell the difference is it going to perform any different than the real thing? Now if you are paying the same price for the fake I can see the issue, but if you're buying that SC putter from Ali Express or Wish and paying $50 then are you getting ripped off?
You got to be some kind of dumb arse if youre buying scotty cameron ping clubs and the likes off Temu and wish
Sad this is the manufacturing costs are prolly similar.
So both headcovers cost 50c to make and one is worth $50 and another is worth 50c 🤔
if the reel manufacturers did not rip you of so much there would not be fakes
What an great video and the guys running the booth were super cool, too. I never think of stuff like this so thanks for the heads up MSG.
This is good to know, but also just shows how intentional it is to keep people out of golf. None of these products are worth their price point. Period. It’s just like fashion brands. Gucci jeans are no better than Wrangler and will likely fall apart 3-5x faster, but sure, why not pay 6x as much for no reason? Maybe make things affordable and *news flash* you’ll make even more money because more people can afford to play golf and have good equipment.
Also funny when the knock offs perform as well if not better than the “original” 🤣
Clubs are likely the biggest issue if they’re missing internal tech. Otherwise this is just showcasing how pretentious the golf industry is… and how much they’re milking everyone for.
I mean the examples he gave were premium products on the market. There's plenty of good affordable used equipment out there, so buying new is really more of a luxury than a necessity to begin playing the game. To your point on new clubs, the missing tech is what makes real clubs pricy and counterfeits cheap. The one thing I'll note in your example is you are comparing a high end fashion product versus a cheap product. People buy the fashion product out desire and want not because its needed. No one needs a scotty Cameron putter and the price reflects what it is, a premium luxury product. There are cheaper more affordable putter brands on the market. I would be willing to bet that as crappy as gucci jeans are, fake gucci jeans or fake wrangler jeans are probably much worse as there isn't even an attempt to maintain the brands integrity.
I would argue that attitudes to new or bad golfers and cost of instruction are more of a road block to new people golfing, than the cost of brand new equipment.
This is why I only sell my used golf equipment on offerup and NEVER buy them there!
That’s why I only buy direct from manufacturer. Not stores or individuals or on line.
Hey Matt, maybe they would loan you the 2 ping drivers and you could test them against each other for your next video. 😊
bet they play exactly the same.
novelty golf equipment is like fishing lures...they're made to catch the fishermen.
I was thinking the same thing. The expert guy said that the only thing that the counterfeiters couldn't replicate was the foam inside the driver so basically we are paying 500 dollars more for foam.
but in novelty golf parlance, that's called 'the technology'...hahahaha@@Hamnegg1970
I've spotted fake Scotty Cameron putters on ebay. I reported them to Scotty Cameron. I have no shame in that either. I buy and sell equipment for myself. Eliminating fraudulent sellers helps everyone.
LMAOOOO, nah it doesnt, you just that ignorant for the reality of what is fakeable and fine and what isn't, a fake scotty, 90% of the time, will be just as just as the real one, their is not technology in scotty putters, simple physics. Second, I guarantee I can beat you stroke play with an entire set of fake clubs......... Unlike you, I've actually tested fake clubs and fake stuff, and the numbers don't lie, they are almost identical. Especially mizunos, they are no tech, simply math to figure out the physics, and guess what, the fakes have the same numbers on launch monitor and same feel....... Idioits like you keep ignorance alive
Scotty Cameron vs. Shoddy scameron
It’s funny to think there are likely a bunch of “Circus” T owners out there. Who believe they could never game a putter that isn’t a Scotty. Who believe they’re rolling the true pinnacle of putter design. Who believe anyone who isn’t bagging a Scotty is missing out. Yet in reality are gaming the equivalent of a Costco putter.
Thanks man. Next time I get a new driver head I'm gonna saw in two to make sure its legit!
That’s the only way to be sure! Then just glue it back together and start playing 👍🏼
Also, with the grips, I've learned that they smell "off" and definitely different than true grips. They have a chemical smell that just don't smell "right".
Not strictly true..
I agree on the real thing, I got swindled when I bought a fake Titleist driver, on ebay. When I found out it was fake, it went straight in trash can. Hate that stuff
I want a Scotty Camaroon now 😂 😂
I call my putter The Scotto Cameroon.
I remember Rick Shiels (I think), years ago, bought a Taylormade M4 off of Wish. The screws on the clubface were painted on and the driver head had something lose rattling around inside it, straight out of the box. I see the counterfeiters have upped their game.
Scotty doesn't know. Don't tell scotty.
Once bought a fake scotty of wish 4 years ago... still using it to this day, cant't fault it !!!
It's a crying shame that people will go to any great lengths to rip off people of their hard earned money I'm glad you did this video Matt to hopefully educate people on making careful decisions on where to buy golf equipment
Speaking of rip offs, aren't the standard Scotty Cameron putters made in China?
The big companies are the ones doing the true scamming sadly
When it comes to clubs, going with a possible counterfeit isn't a good idea, but for folks looking for a deal on headcovers or putter grips....I may be willing to roll the dice for the right price.
I bought a fake headcover for a Scotty Cameron. Who the hell cares if a headcover is real or not? It is really good quality.
What do you mean? All Scotties are fake. Everyone in my club who has a over priced Scotty putter does not putt as well as me with my 1/5 the price putter.
This is why I do not buy used golf clubs off eBay no more or nowhere else besides a golf shop.I think Titleist is the only company that you can call and give them the serial number off the adapter and I'll tell you if it matches up or not. But they still cannot guarantee you if it's real or fake.
Not good enough to play with real. Will settle for fakes.
Great video!
I bought a fake Ping driver bcuz I wanted to see how it felt compared to real. I didn't get 10 drives out of it before the welds on the crown gave out big time. Also, the first few drives before it fell apart were very loud and hollow....
You said it all at the start, it costs 50 cents, but it cost Cameron 50 cents, then they rip you off. The grip's the same, just one is a ridiculous price.
Great video❤
Head cover cost to manufacture is not far apart. You pay for the name / markup is huge!!
This video gave me anxiety for about a minute .. I bought a used Ping 425 Max and always wondered if it's a fake..
Great info… also, being able to spot a fake Aaron Rodgers guy in a golf show booth, vs…. Ah Nevermind. Keep up the great content M$G!
Scotty Cameroon 😂😅😂😅
clubs i would never buy fake. but i do buy replica jordans. i dont really see a problem with headcovers either, but to each their own.
Exactly why I stay away from the offer ups and sideline swaps! I’ll pay extra at PGA Tour Superstore, Golf Galaxy, or direct from the manufacturer! Can’t put a price on not being duped!
If I can get grips and head covers for 20% of the cost bring it on! And if I like the putter who cares! Driver and golf ball different story
Have you thought about doing a Temu or Wish golf club review?
Outside clubs and balls. Things like head covers and accessories.
How much are we getting ripped off by the real deal...
Pathetic
Great video as always. I had gotten some “golf pride” grips off Temu and as expected they were fake. Needed it for a set I never play but let that be a warning to anyone looking to save a few bucks.
lmfao what did you expect ordering off temu
@@02g02g exactly that. But I needed grips for a set that would be played maybe once a year.
but the grips off temu and legit better than normal grips lmao. Jeez prudes like you would spend money on water if I told you it was special
Everything is counterfeit from Temu. Are you really that surprised that they were fake?
@@DrRockso. not at all. That’s where the “as expected” part comes in.
It’s bad when you are getting ripped off by the counterfeiters and the manufacturers. Grips cost about 20 cents to make whoever makes em.
The point of this video is OEM manufactures are ripping you off by jacking up their prices for what is essentially the same product as the fake which cost half as much.
I have purchased used clubs from Global Golf. I hope they know the difference.
the real rip off is the margin of club manufacturers. cmon, the improvement of clubs already flat lined. then marketing it out as cutting edge new tech with r&d.
Aslong as your buying the head covers for cheap and not knowingly over paying for a fake head cover who cares, like I’m gonna over pay.
The balls I disagree with and the clubs I disagree with because scammers will sell them pretending to be real charging full price which is scummy
I bought fake Scotty covers just to compare and they look just like my real ones but hundreds cheaper. They even had an AM&E made for Scotty tag inside.
Did the give any idea of where not to buy or where knock offs are sold. I was thinking EBay Temu or places like Facebook marketplace. Second hand stores might be fooled by them.
Unfortunately, that is how people are now. They knowingly buy the fakes. They think that paying more for quality is for suckers. As long as they can get the look without spending the coin then they are happy. Like that in all areas, not just golf
I don't think that's necessarily the issue they are attempting to address here.
The issue is selling knockoffs for FULL retail $$ and then getting passed around as the real deal.
If it is advertised as being fake, and you're getting it for a good price. At least you know what you're getting.
However, even those can be bad if that person decides to later sell it as the "real deal".
@paintedwolf1654 just look at the other comments on this video. Just because one is true does not mean that the other is not. Knockoff manufacturers are not selling them at the full price. Someone is buying it at the penny on the dollar and passing it off. Some are selling it to people at the cheap price who just want the name. It's two sides of the same coin
@@heydeereman1040 right. I think we are in agreement here.
But I guess to your argument, it's all an issue. There's always going to be some scumbag looking to make a quick buck at the expense of someone else's (potential) stupidity. Right?
@paintedwolf1654 go to any city in Europe and you will see hundreds of immigrants selling knock-off products openly in the streets. They are not buying them and reselling them. They are set up by organizations to use them. They may get a couple Euros from each item they sell. Those same products are the ones ending up on Marketplace, Ebay, Temu, Amazon ... passed off by scammers as real with a full or slightly marked down price.
Yes, I bought fake Rolex and LV when I was young and didn't know better. It all ended up in the landfill. Now that I am older and better appreciate craftsmanship, I have the real deal and they will outlast me and be passed on to the next generations.
I bought some tees I suspect were fake
I feel like it's a double edged sword making videos like this. This is posted to the world for all to see and scammers will see it and fine tune their counterfeit products. They aren't stupid.
Buy from a reputable dealer.
Def looked at my ping driver after this
I call my putter The Scotto Cameroon.
fake golf club is best of the best 👍👍👍🎯💪 all arrives from same country
With putter cover you buy fake cove keep authentic one on safe place , you lose fake it’s only £10 you lose authentic it £50 to £300
Bounce a ball off the face of the driver in order to tell a real driver from the fake. 👍🏾
The commenters on this video are spot on. Golf equipment has become so expensive because they pay prima donnas to play their eq. We pay Tiger's expensive endorsement deal. We pay extra for under armour so Jordan can have his mansion in Dallas. If stopped being suckers for the shinny stuff we'd have more money to actually play and get better. Golf manufacturers and their shills on youtube really suck.
And people buy because Tiger uses their gear, or Jordan uses their gear, or Rory uses their gear. It's called advertising, and it works.
@@msalzberg4962 Yes it does work. It's shameful how expensive equipment is and how gullible golfers are as well.
so basically the real crap is hardly distinguishable from the fake crap...except the crap made by the real company costs ten times as much! hahahaha
i'll bet neither changes anyone score!
just keeps making a few novelty club producers rich.
Bring in the Death Penalty for running Golf Equipment counterfeiting operations.
how about the same penalty for brands extorting?
@dripsa people have a choice of buying or not buying extortionate brands.
@danthemanwhocancan5263 Right and those same people have the same choice to buy the original or save some money and buy knockoffs.
@coobay4786 No, that's where you are wrong and have fallen in to my trap. Many customers do not have the choice when buying fakes. Often a fake golf club or, for example, a fake Scotty Cameron grip is bought without the knowledge that its fake.
@@danthemaninfierno After 40 years of playing golf I have never met anyone who bought a knockoff thinking they were buying an original. And I've known plenty of people who bought knockoffs and it's always to save a buck. Now if someone goes and buys a brand new $600 driver for $375 off ebay, temu, etc. instead of a reputable dealer then they get what they deserve. I guess you've never heard of the saying if it's to good to be true it probably is.
Thanks Mr. Short Game! Excellent demonstration of fake golf products vs. real. I hate those guys making fake golf products.
The fake one cost 9.98 on temu well worth it
sorry but the "fakes" ive bought havebeen considerably better if not the exact same as the legi stuff. Even the fake mizunos my boi has have almost identical numbers when I tested on the trackman. Just stay away from fake clubs, buy everything else fake. Headcovers, the fakes are better, bags, the fakes are better, grips, the fakes are better. Golf, like everything, likes to charge morefor the specifcality of the sport. But if you know, you can play golf alot cheaper and still be good.
600 dollars for a driver.....
It’s truly amazing that counterfeiting can become so in “your face”, the day to day items that we golfers buy are in their hands. Best to buy from your pro shop.
Shafts are another highly faked items
I could justify industry prices for these products if they were made by Americans paid proper American wages.
Does "fake counterfeit" means it's real then?
the fake Scotty Cameron covers are better than the real ones ,
And no big deal if it’s lost or stolen
@@Tom-ok2rh I wouldn't even put a scotty Cameron headcover on any putter I own real or fake. Just attracts people to want steal it
@@ahastar1141 yea I hear ya but I’m generally around my buddies when we play so I don’t usually worry about it. But if I go somewhere unfamiliar I will bring out another cover if I decide to use a nice Scotty that day
I'm sure the fake one of anything would cost more then 50 cents regardless what's being faked
I think i spotted the fake mustache in the video..
I love my fake Delmar putter
All these manufacturers are going to bankrupt themselfs with these high prices I’m not buying anything new there is nothing new there is no new tech it’s just hype
Freakin scary
.50 to make the fake one and .50 to make the "real" one
Buy a real scotty cameron grip and put it on a fake scotty cameron.
never bought a fake ! because i dont buy overpriced clubs
does anyone need to pay 10 times as much for EXACTLY the same grip?
maybe these novelty club producers should produce something significant and impossible to counterfeit...like real golf equipment.
you don't see counterfeit persimmon woods and forged blades, do you?
and i have yet to see ANY putter worth 1000$...scotty cameron is a rip off joke.
but i do see a lot of hackers with thousands of dollars worth of novelty golf equipment...does it really matter if the clubs are counterfeit? not at all.
golf is a ruined sport, full of greedy capitalists and cry baby novelty pros.
it's the most boring rendition of itself in history.
while everyone gets rich!!
Are there clones that perform as good as the real thing? Not that we should buy them
No not really.
60 Minutes had a pro hit a real driver vs fake. The fake one hit the adjacent fairway every time.
this isn't anything new. it's been going on from at least the 90's.
Yea fake clubs make a big difference with shitty golfers 😂
You would not have lost $500 because you would have paid $69. But you would have most likely got what you paid for.
Never buy club’s second hand and you won’t have a problem.
I buy all of my clubs second hand, and haven't had a problem. As with new clubs, buy from a reputable dealer. I've bought almost of of my set used from Callaway (including my Ping irons).
I’ll take the fake please, much cheaper
Who on here is paying $50 for putter covers?
People in the comments here trying to make excuses for fake products astound me. I can maybe understand the argument for head covers or grips, but for clubs and shafts, no way. The reason a driver costs $500 is not because it takes them $490 to manufacture, but because a manufacturer has to put thousands of dollars into development of each club. Hundreds of hours into research and development of materials, shape, technology, etc means that all of that money put up front to design the club needs to be made back in sales. Then you add retailer mark ups, sponsorship deals, and everything else, that is what causes a club to be a certain price. If you want a cheaper club, then buy used/from a manufacturer that doesn’t put as much into the above items, don’t buy a fake Scotty Cameron just to flex to your friends at your $20 muni that you have a Scotty. You all need to get over yourselves and stop trying to flex on a budget, you’re only screwing yourself when your Chinese driver puts all 12 of your brand new Pinnacle balls into the trees.
Is the real one going to make me a better player ?
Funny thing, all from China...