Vampiric Bloodline Precon: $50 Budget Upgrade | Precon Power-Up (BR VampireTribal)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- We upgraded the Vampiric Bloodline precon from Crimson Vow Commander into an amazing, Blood-pumping deck, for only $50! Come see how we did it!
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You know what's more exciting than blood tokens?
Zombie tokens. 2 of them to be exact.
Brains...
urrrhh...
you wish, 2/2 zombie provides
...I think I'd rather have a blood token
@@22zombie22 nice to see you ! Are you number 1 or number 2?
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The regent is your buggedt bomb
*it outs that many +1 counters on those creatures*
Not a +1 counter, but *that many*.
You drop this unblocked on turn 4 and you have a 6/5 commander turn 5 and a 12/11 regent
This thing is bonkers
Keep it in.
Yeah this card is actually pretty OP
I have to agree specially with Stefan cheating it in tapped and attacking. Hell yea
Yee, and thats after having delt 9 damage. And it's a combo I dont mind playing later in turns too.
It might be interesting at the end of the Precon Power-Ups to give a rating (on the patented Nitpicking Nerds power scale) of what power you consider the upgraded deck to be. Maybe even a before and after power rating.
Second this
Great idea
Great idea 👍
These eps are invaluable. I wasn’t a fan of vampire or blood tokens. Then I came here and am actually amazed at how fun you guys made this deck look. Bravo!
Wow that’s really awesome to hear, thanks for the high praise!
Even though it’s 7 months later, y’all convinced me to make this deck, and I got my first commander win today with a nearly complete version! Still need a few more cards, but this deck is stupidly fun and fast and can spiral out of control very quickly. Thanks guys!!
Gald you like the deck
I love this being more of a blood deck and less of a tribal deck, tribal decks tend to get stale quickly for me. Great video guys!
Blood is so weird …
Weirdly fun, you mean.
It’s so fascinating to see neglected cards in the past serve a practical purpose in newer stuff. If I saw these cards a year or two ago, I’d tell you that they’re pretty bad in EDH. But with a commander like this, they’re quite nice for a budget build
Predator's Hour isn't Impulse draw. It's for as long as they remain exiled. You can also play lands. It's close to drawing, worse cards, but always awaylable. I name it now: Exile Draw. Otherwise: I'm getting hooked on your content, great work. Subsribe, people!
I’m actually surprised Joe didn’t mention his Tibalt deck lol
True but I think exiled cards that can always be played is better than cards in hand. Don't you?They can't be targeted by opponents unless they use some strange eldrazi ability and you don't have to worry about hand size.
@@blaze556922 Yeah but those are really miniscule upsides. The downside is that the cards you draw won't synergize with your deck, which is pretty disappointing.
I do think the card is actually pretty good, though. Menace isn't bad and the card advantage is pretty good.
Ahhh I remember that episode of Family Matters when Streve Urkel became Strefan Urkel. Good times... and good deck from you guys!
Vampire nighthawk is one of the best uncommons of all time imo
Agreed.
I love nighthawk. There’s just no way to come out ahead on board; either it chips away at you because blocking it is a miserable experience or it blocks your biggest threat and gains some life
@@maxheath1158 Exactly. I've never been unhappy to see him hit the board on my side of the table.
I play against someone in my pod that regularly gets this guy out turn 2-3 and it is a fucking PAIN when Im piloting my voltron if I dont get the right draw.
Nadier's night blade is another great add for this deck. Gives more damage and healing for free on blood sacrifice. Could potentially add mayhem devil and disciple of the vault as well.
Crimson Vow review video: Blood is trash
This video: So anyway, here's how to create more blood tokens.
How else are you going to make a blood token centric commander work?
You guys should really be posting these on Facebook, it would just make it easier to be linking these to people that ask how to power up the precons on the commander Facebook page.
Just copy the link and share it on the commander page
Another good add would be underhanded designs, pings each opponent for 1 when you make blood tokens 👍🏽
I find out upgrades on this deck very interesting. What I did with mine personally was lean a bit more into the artifacts matter and the pain triggers. Squee to sack to the blood tokens for free card draw, Inspiring Statuary as a good way to cheat out other stuff and use blood tokens as Mana, as well as DarkSteel Juggernaut for a big hitter. Also Mirage Pharalax and Combat Celebrant for a nice infinite combo.
I remember when Bloodline Keeper was $2, because I bought a bunch of them. Really glad I did!
Surprised no Voldaren Estate. Its only $2 and churns out a cheap to free blood token every turn. Plus, its flood protection.
Amazing!
Are you planning to do an Olivia Crimson Bride deck? Or Edgar Markov?
I'd love to see them making an updated Markov deck using some of these cards
Would you guys be willing to do a Kamber, the Plunderer // Laurine, the Diversion Deck? It's maybe a partner commander I'd consider playing but I would love to see a deck list from you guys (:
Second, yasssss. Thanks for being awesome guys 🤙🏼
No prob :P
You forgot how good Ghirapur aether grid is with all these blood tokens!
You overlooked Idol of Oblivion! Draw a card every time you create a blood token.
Well, not quite. You have to tap it so you can only draw once per turn
Damn you nitpicking nerds! I thought that I don't like the commander decks according to VOW, but man I love this deck. So I guess, I have to built it. Keep on with your great work
I love your ideas. I would put throne of bone and epicurean of blood
With the leftover budget, maybe include an access tunnel? Could be useful if your opponents have blockers for Strefan. Also if you happen to upgrade your deck with the new Olivia it helps her get into combat unscathed.
Also wanted to ask, what do you guys think of Tibalt's Trickery in this deck, seems like such a fun card to put into any nonblue, red decks.
A lack of puns should be punishable. People who say, "No pun intended," are cowards. Intend your puns and be proud
can we get a budget upgrade then an all out upgrade on future videos?
Did you guys forget about Ovalchase Daredevil? Great for blood token discard fodder.
Wouldn't prismatic lens be much better than fractured powerstone since it also has the filter upside (not that it's a big upside) and like 20 cents?
Yes 100% thanks for that we just overlooked it! You will be seeing in future Precon Power ups!
@@NitpickingNerds actually i overlooked another good rock. everflowing chalice is kinda awesome as well so either one of those would be good for the precon upgrades. your deck teck was awesome though! good work!
Vicious conquistador, pulse tracker and cryptghast seem like the most obvious 3 cards to be added to this deck
Another great power up episode!
dem nitpicker bois coming in clutch as i was putting this in my cart...
thanks :D
Looting this for Edgar and building a meme deck with Timothar
Tim the vampire 🧛♂️
Necropolis Regent is soo good. It's a 12 right after you cheat it in, it's a 24 after next turn. Everything else that gets through gets the same effect.
Quick question: for Pact of the Serpent, why is it considered great that we draw ~6cards and lose ~6life? I mean... why isblosing 6 life great? New to MTG and starting with ma boi Stref here, thanks!
GET THE BLOOD FLOWING
Strefan seems to be a vampire version of Kaalia/Winota
Hyped for this NN video!
big brain strat :
run Conspiracy and Maskwood Nexus and Strefan pretty much Sneak Attacks anything and everything~
Seeing how expensive an vampire tribal would be, I am amazed at how relatively cheap a Goblin deck is. The most expensive cards that I have in my Goblin tribal deck are around 7€.
There were so many cards replaced, I kinda feel like it it's a totally different deck. But the blood token synergies seem pretty strong!
3:05
Punted
PUN-ted.
Was that intentional? :)
What vampire tribal cards would you suggest adding once their prices drop?
Had to stop watching right after Imposing Grandeur and Predator's Hour ... too much nonsense right at the beginning. Might try again later though. xD
Molten echoes doesnt put the token into the current combat? I've been playing it like it does....
Arterial Alchemy to equip your Westgate Regent could get to a win con level of power fairly fast.
Long time player, this deck is way overpowered out of the box, not cedh powerful, but it's the most powerful precon I have ever played.
I love my Edgar vampires deck, so I’ll just loot some cards out of this deck. I don’t need another Rakdos commander and I’m not a fan of Blood Tokens. My other option is to just keep it as a Pre-con so I have a lower power deck on hand.
Edit: Stromkirk Captain is really good in a Edgar Markov deck that has a bunch of 1/1’s, IMO.
Yeah Edgar is a go wide commander so he likes lords.
Can i ask if you plan to extend the 50 $ upgrades with maybe 100$ or 150$ upgrades? My friends and i played with every of your upgrades and now it's time to upgrade the decks a little bit more :D
You nailed it guys, you convinced me to buy this precon :D
not on subject, but i wanna a Tovolar deck i have to build it right, no precon ?
Yeah you'll have to buy singles to build Tovolar, they didn't do a werewolf precon.
I found falkenrath forebear with reckless fireweaver is so good. Create a blood pings everyone get 3 more. Pings for 3 more. So 1 person takes 7 others take 4. So good.
Could you also perhaps mention the cars that are a bit expensive for people that have a higher budget??
Blood Token sacrifice trigger Marionette master?
whispersilk cloak for unblockable shroudy strefan triggers? or too excessive since he has flying?
Not a vampire but how about Disciple Of The Vault for some extra drain whenever blood gets sacked?
What cards would you swap out to put in bloodline keeper and Olivia Crimson Bride?
Imposing Grandeur would work great in a deck helmed by Progenitus.
Ghalta too (if it was Gruul)
let's go
woooooooooooooo
Gonna try a Cranial Plating in my since it works well with blood.
war journal entry 11/10/21: IT was literally just standing in the hall staring into my room for at least 20 seconds (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi style seconds too - at least three full d&d rounds) before I asked him if I could help him: he just swayed a little, shook his head slightly, and walked off. What is their game? Psychological warfare? Am I that pretty? Idk anymore...
Omg 😳 they are watching you
@@NitpickingNerds Yeah it was really fuggin' weird. Like, ima have my wife pick me up so I'm not in the parking lot alone later... (i really wish this was part of the bit)
I'd be tempted to add Inspiring Statuary so I could tap my blood tokens for mana
Hey can you guys add the cut list in the comments or description?? Its usually there but its missing for this one.
Kinda crazy how much the price dropped on these crimson vow cards after the set came out
Are untapped colorless two mana rocks really head and shoulders above a tapped color producing 2 drop rock?
Before watching the video: Predicting Inspiring Statuary, maybe a Blinkmoth Urn
Ok here's my dumb question of the day, why is Exotic Orchard in every deck? If my opponent isn't using my colors isn't this just a wasted card? Or is there something I'm missing here?
Mind games, make your opponents believe they are helping you execute your plans... I actually have no idea
ok, its no budget upgrade, but sorin imperious bloodlord and Bloodline Keeper would be a great addition to this Deck also. According to Vampire Nighthawk, i dont think, it is that bad. you cant cheat every vampire in, so you need also some vampires, you can play. and this card have so much value. deathtouch can work to make the opponent dont want to attack or to kill a nasty creature. an when i play this deck, my creatures become very fast, very strong (vampire socialite for example) so flying and lifelink is a thing too. But yeah, ofcourse Nighthawk Scavenger is better ;)
POGGERS THIS IS SUPREME POGGERS MAN BIG POG I GIVE TWO POGS UP
Big pog
Feel like y'all missed out on Cryptolith Fragment.
Draw cards of AAAAAAA Commander not yours with the Highest MANA cost?
32:35 Its even more gravy than that since ad nauseum only loses you 2 life off of hitting it. I don't like cyclonic rift so I play blasphemous act but man, losing 9 life really stops my ad naus dead in its tracks
Am I missing something? I see a link for a list of added cards, but not a link/list of what you removed from the precon to make room for the added cards. Could you provide that as linked list?
You've probably addressed this by now, but if not you can submit the original precon decklist and the upgraded decklist to Moxfield. Then use their compare feature to show which cards are unique to each deck.
I know edgar is the best, but who's the best commander for a more tribal go wide strategy (on a budget)
in terms of vampires Drana Liberator of Malakir? only problem is ur stuck in mono black, or maybe Olivia Crimson Bride as commander with Drana in it, cuz she can bring back creatures and u can just have a bunch of support like the +1/+1 cards and first strike stuff?
OMG guys! I've been buying the shizz outta singles and i forgot to use your links! I'm sorry!
I live for the 15-45 seconds after the tidbit where y’all just go off the rails
Marionette Master will not work because tokens don’t go into the graveyard right?
You can. A token creature may be PUT into the graveyard, but when it does, it vanishes away once it reaches the graveyard. 111.6, 111.7
The rakdos deretti could be sweet here
Sausig gravy does in fact slap
You PUNted :D
💯 disagree with your take on Unclaimed Territory. Maybe in this deck you have a point. But in like 3+ color tribal, I'm playing a ton of creatures of that type. Having a land that taps for any color to play those cards with no downside is good. So what if it taps for colorless for spells. Other mana exists. It's just one card.
Bloodline keeper is $44 now and the most expensive card in my Clavileño deck lol it’s stupid
I disagree with so much of this. A few of those cards though, absolutely.
I love the video and I think the deck is medium level for sure, but I think that anthem vampire Stromkirk Captain is good.
Agreed, and the Necropolis Regent is a easy-to-use finisher if your blood token stuff doesn't pan out perfectly
Looting this for Edgar markov, I am so disappointed with the vampires this time around, blood tokens are not great.
Same with the wolves tbh
@@gunnertlc7728 Yes 100% agree as I can't stand the Day /Night cycle. Why couldn't we just get decent Werewolf cards that transform like the previous ones?
@@BIGNEILCOUSINS Yeah changing it up just makes things confusing and asynchronous. I just love rakdos cards. And none of the new rakdos cards I like that much!
I just want to comment on the title. If I were a new player that just bought this deck for 50 USD, spending that amount of money again on an upgrade seems crazy. I could just buy a whole new deck. How is this budget?
$100 is still considered fairly "budget" in mtg tbh considering the prices which some decks can get too. Some of my decks have singular cards which are $50 -$100 now. Dont feel forced into upgrading immediately though, I slowly upgrade decks overtime by trading and when I have the money. Grab some cheap stuff for $10-20 then go from there. Even my competitive deck worth like $700 started life as a $50 deck which I've slowly worked on for about 3 years now.
As someone who has a vampire tribal deck without Edgar at the helm (dislike eminence too much philosophically to play the card) I really had high hopes for this set. Unfortunately it feels like a total letdown. Even the new Olivia is just kind of meh to me. Blood tokens are also tough to get excited about. There is the odd card here and there I'll find a home for but I was really hoping for one or two interesting legendary vampires to try to build around.
First upgrade, change the commander to Edgar
That takes a little more than $50
@@NitpickingNerds haha yeah his price is ridiculous in my op
Yeah if you can afford it and find a group that is ok with you playing him.
Cranial plating might be a good blood token payoff as well since you can attach to the the big vampire just brought into play at instant speed and any extra blood tokens around boost the effect.
It sure is did it last Friday. After blocks declared boom take 20.
I better see 0 cards that say “blood token” in them on your upgraded deck list
how rude.
@@maxloggins2930 nah not rude.
Sounds like you want a different Commander then, because that’s what he does. (I am not a fan of Blood Tokens, but that’s what this Commander is built around.)
The commander lol
Welp...
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Oh shit, I guess us poor mortals from other places just don't exist. Or maybe we just don't count
1st
Well played
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