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3D Printer Solid/Silicone Bed Mounts - Install Guide
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2024
- The stock springs that come with most 3d printers are cheap and can cause bed-level issues, which can ultimately affect the object you are printing. Fortunately for us, there are aftermarket options we can get to fix the problem. In this video, I show you how to replace the springs with solid bed mounts and what's required after the bed mounts are installed.
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Links Hardware
Solid Bed Mounts on Amazon: geni.us/29eGA9l
Ender 3 Pro on Amazon: geni.us/vIAIx
Ender 3 V2 on Amazon: geni.us/ur8YHM
HATCHBOX Filament on Amazon: geni.us/BJx0Gdj
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great work! I enjoyed this tutorial and the CR touch install. Your CR touch install was the best one I watched. Thank you for helping us new comers out. 3D printing has become my favorite new hobby.
You're welcome!
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Bro your gantry arm is visibly crooked
@@odeball22 Ya i know. I had the printer apart before this video and quickly threw it back together. I didn't think it would impact what I was covering though.
@@3DPrintscape got ya
do you have the dimensions of the new mounts?
@@PeterTremonti Ya, Diameter: OD 0.63"(16mm) ID 0.16"(4mm) Height: High 0.71"(18mm), Short 0.64"(16.2mm)
Hey! Just built a ender 3 pro using your help along with cura, wanted to say thanks so much, learning a lot from you!🤝
Great to hear!
Hey man, I know it's a drop the ocean, but I would thank you for your videos. It's intuitive and very helpefull. Thank you
You're welcome
From Australia here, Looking forward to the review in a couple of weeks. Thanks for the great info from your other vids. Guv
Hi. Thanks for the feedback and you're welcome.
I have waited for this tutorial great!
Hi. Thanks, there have actually been a lot of people that have asked for this video so I hope it does well and helps people out lol.
Probably not a big deal but FYI you did twist your wires coming off the build plate when you removed and replaced the bed. 2:48 you flip it over counterclockwise, 4:28 you flip it counterclockwise again and can see the harness is twisted after.
Hi. Thanks for pointing that out, i actually didnt notice it. I havent had any issues but will untwist them next time i have the plate off.
Please watch your Z stop after installing these. especially if you go right to "auto home" after installing these. it should be close but you don't want the nozzle hitting your build plate after installing
Hi. Ya, you will want to make sure you level your build plate after installing these or replacing the springs.
If you're having trouble getting the plastic casing off of the wire to the bed plate, just use a small flathead screwdriver. Slid it up the side underneath the cap it usually pops pretty easy
Hi. Thanks for sharing.
Another great video. Thanks Rob👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Great video I have had pretty good luck with the ones I installed on my pro. I have done major updates to it now with linear rails for all 3 axes, then I was doing a dual z setup but I found out I have an issue with the v-rail extrusion likely a bolt hole that was not tapped straight as when I tighten everything down it causes binding on the z at the top so I can't use it till I replace the v-rails.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. Did the everything work after the initial install then have issues later on or was it right after the install?
@@3DPrintscape yep works just fine the linear rail kit moves great I may put in a TH3D full solid bed mount kit next as long as all is printing well.
wouldve appreciated it more if you mentioned the 3d printed thing in the beginning cause i have to rebuild my whole bed now to print that thing
Hi. Sorry about that. The kit I bought came with it.
Good evening. I have a CR-10 S5 CR Touch, 500x500x500 build volume. I am having such a hard time making it stay level. I am going to install metal spacers with an inner diameter wide enough to go around the nuts holding the screws in place underneath instead of the silicone mounts to have a "flat" and not moving bed level. My Anycubic Kobra Maxes (2) and my Kobra Plus have these hard spacers also with locknuts to hold the bed down with ABL. I won't be able to adjust the knobs because of the solid spacers being locked down with locknuts. Would I just level the center when it homes since it would be mostly flat across the board, or would I need to make adjustments of Z height with the controls on the box, or switch to an endstop switch? I am just tired of minute little adjustments that will screw up the whole bed level, and tired of having to mess with it and not being able to have a print successfully complete, not to mention the extruder always skipping because of inconsistencies in the bed level. Thank you kindly.
Hi. I would still manually level all four corners as much as possible (not sure how much flexibility the solid mounts will offer). Then assuming your using a bltouch/crtouch make sure its plugged in along with the z stop. Set the z offset, then adjust the height of the z stop to make sure it can be triggered if the abl fails.
Thank you for the great video
You’re welcome
@ 5:37 you say to manual level before powering on, how do position extruder to check clearance with the paper?
I take the bed all the way down then move the axis to it. It doesnt need to be perfect here, just enough so that when the axis is moved by the stepper the nozzle doesnt scrape against the build plate.
I have been thinking of swapping out the springs for solid mounts on my printers apart from the Ender 3 that I keep 100% stock standard, its the way I determine any benefit to upgrades on the other Enders, I have the upgraded springs on my printers and for the most part they work well but eventualy the tension moves and they have to be relevelled.
Hi. Thats basically the test im doing now. I have one printer with the solid mounts and the other with upgraded springs. The upgraded springs work well but im thinking the mounts will hold up better over time.
I changed the springs to the silicone spacers. With the springs there was a washer at both ends. So with the spacers, I did the same, or should I not have?
Hi. It wont make a difference assuming everything is level and the z stop switch is set right.
I just swapped out the springs on mine but I have another issue (that started before I decided to swap them out) which is ever since I installed the magnetic flexible build plate, I haven't been able to level the bed properly. Because of the height difference of going from a glass bed to a thinner surface, I can't get the build plate to sit high enough and the wheels get completely loose when trying to raise the bed high enough to reach the nozzle. The issue is the z offset can be lowered a little more but the bottom of another metal part (not sure the technical name for it) gets in the way and it can't lower anymore because of that piece. Any suggestions for this?
Hi. The only thing I can think of would be to get longer springs to raise the bed up a little or cut the little plastic piece on the z stop that hits the frame. That will allow you to lower it a bit more.
I purchased this and set my z offset but the issue im having is when do it. The left side is too close to the nozzle while the right side isn’t. I’m not sure how to resolve the issue.
I thought maybe the arm my extruder is on could be off but I measured it and it’s even.
Could really use some help. I do have the cr touch.
Hi. You may need to tighten the left side down more. I know i had to really tighten a couple points and the other ones are more just hand tight.
@@3DPrintscape I’ll give that a try. I’ve got back and purchased the yellow coils, so I’m gonna give those a shot.
Hi Rob, thank you very much for the video. I'm going to put some of these on my printer, but I would like to ask when searching for these, the information says that the Z-axis limit switch needs to be readjusted is this correct?
Hi. I did not need to adjust the z-stop on mine, but that may not be the case for everyone.
I was thinking this
Can you send file for Bottom mounting cable strain ?
Hi. I can’t find the one I was referring to in the video or any others on thingiverse. I will see if I can scan mine when I get some time.
@@3DPrintscape ok thanks !
I wonder if there is a kind of calibration or test model to compare performance before and after , and really say my printer is better now
Hi. You could print a couple calibration parts, like a benchy before and after.
@@3DPrintscape Thanks! but what imperfection of the benchy should be improved?
@@tinchodias If everything is working perfectly before doing any upgrades, you may not see any improvement. That said, I would look for things around layering and the bottom of the print.
I put the solid bed mounts on and a glass plate and it made the print bed alot thicker, I tightened the leveling screws down pretty tight but it didn't feel right so I backed them off and instead raised the z stop, my question is how tight should they be? Too tight and I feel ill damage the mounts and too loose they'll just back themselves out and need releveling constantly
Hi. They should be tight enough that there is no give/movement if your moving the bed around.
@@3DPrintscape ok so I might drop the z-stop down a couple mm and tighten them up because I test printed something right after installing which worked flawlessly, and then went to print something bigger with a wide base and half the print would lift up while the other half was squished pretty good, had to relevel after just a 30 min test print
@@WTFisjuice1 Make sure your z axis, y axis, and hot end carriage are tight.
Hi. By any chance, do you have tutorial for 4.2.7 board and latest BL touch? (that one which starts smoking if you connect it like in most tutorial / blue /red / yellow wires instead of brown / red, /yellow
Hi. I dont have one for 4.2.7 specifically but it would be the same as the 4.2.2 board. The difference between the blue/brown wire is typically just the brand of the device. Its important to look at the pinout for the bl touch and make sure the wires are in the right order.
Like 3D Printscape said. Don't ever rely on the wire colours, always check the wire order coming off the BL Touch.
can you post a link to the adapter you printed so the springs stay level.
Hi. If your talking about the wire harness, that came with the kit i bought. You can print the, but you will need to print one that matches the height of the mounts you have.
Are this bed mounts better than the yellow springs? Thanks u!
Hi. I cover this in more detail in this video, ruclips.net/video/8QEx4wfXKUI/видео.html , but the short answer is in most cases i prefer the solid mounts.
Which direction did u put mounts they have a flat side and a conferred side ( center hole ) ?
Hi. I put the larger diameter on the bottom, so the small side is on the build plate.
@@3DPrintscape ahh ok tk u
@@3DPrintscape took them out impossible to get bed level !
@@charlesrestivo870 Sorry to hear that. They are not good if large adjustments need to be made.
Oh no thank u for your help I may revisit them in future But truthfully heavy springs work very well
What would be the ramifications of printing your own?
Hi. The biggest reason i didnt was because i wanted the wire support arm and the mount to be the right size when combined. Outside of that, printing your own should work. Also, its worth mentioning that the filament needs to have some give, it cant be solid.
Anyway you can source the new 3d printed cable stabilizer
Hi. Im not seeing any. When i get some time, i will try to scan mine and make a model of it.
@@3DPrintscape that would be awesome!
How tight should thr bed mounts be?
Hi. Tight enough so they don’t move around and won’t come loose.
Where can i find the file to print the stabilizer?
Hi. The one i found before got removed, so im not sure anymore. I will try to make one when i get some time.
So are these a better solution than the flat yellow springs? Noob printer, just want the best for my Ender. lol
Hi. Assuming you dont need to make any major adjustments to level the bed, i like the solid mounts better.
@@3DPrintscape I've already ordered the springs but when I get thermal pad I might switch em. Just hate leveling every print ya know?
@@jesseburson I hear ya, you may want to get a CR Touch or BLTouch as well.
Is there a thingiverse profile for the stabilizer bar?
Hi. What type of stabilizer bar?
That thing that holds the shortest silicone spring
@@bojunxu123 The one i saw before is not there, I will try to look for another one when I get some time.
@@3DPrintscape alright
Do you still think these are better than the heavier springs?
Hi, Overall i like them better but if you already have the heaver springs i wouldnt switch.
@@3DPrintscape I don't have either currently. Just a CRtouch and normal sprints on a e3pro
@@-Good4Y0u Ah ok. If your bed is decently level, I would get the mounts.
@@3DPrintscape that's the plan I had based on your video. Thank you
would this work with a cr 20 pro?
Hi. Probably not without making modifications. I dont know what board shipped with yours, but upgrading to the Creality 4.2.7 or the SKR Mini will make the biggest difference.
i got the cr is it gonna be diffcult
Hi. The install isnt too bad. Hardest part is the firmware upgrade and getting the z offset right.
You don't _level_ the build plate, you _tram_ it.
Hi. Ive always leveled it..
I have used these before, they banded my plate badly 😢
Hi. Thats not good. Any idea how/why that happened?