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Can I throw in a wild theory? What if the reason why we and Agatha can't hear "Teen" theory is because what if Teen is a combination of Nicolous Scratch and Billy Kaplan. Hear me out so you know Jennifer Hale "pink witch" talked about how teen was another of agatha "child sacrifice" and in Wandavision when we had the flashback of agatha at the stake almost burned by the 7 witches and her mother for using the "Darkhold" what if while using the book to gain power or whatever one recipe or step ask for a sacrifice of a child or pure person so Agatha did what she needed to do to gain more power ( i mean look at the 2 episodes of Agatha all along and episode 8 and 9 of Wandavision) tell us what she really wants. As a result, because she sacrifice her kin or an innocent to gain power she was cursed to be unable to never know where her son reincarnate to or where he will be possibly why anytime "Teen" gives hints of his identity, she is unable to know who he is so possible Teen (possibly Billy) is reincarnation of Nicolas. Also, Agatha and Wanda somewhat have similar motives when liking to working alone and also mentality of getting what they want if there is a heavy price to pay. Also, what about the bunny, I can predict the reason why it names Scratch is possible mourning her lost son so the bunny being named that is more of her coping what has happen to her in the past and forgetting it I mean episode 1 of Agatha All Along show the room of her son Nicholas being that of someone who died and left that way as though it their in her head but she can't forget even though as time past memories fade. That my prediction of what Teen represents.
I love that Debra Jo is basically playing Kitty. I adore her so much and her little quips. “Am I supposed to know this song” to screaming the lyrics by the end had me in stitches.
Lmao, yess hahaha, whenever she said that, then later on, I joined in.and when thier all going back and forth, you hear her say that she thought they all sounded good 😂
The 70s show reference in the basement as the camera panned around like they were smoking ganja was so hilarious. The crew really knocked this one outta the park
I like the idea of Agatha losing her son, it makes her and Wanda even more similar. It makes me wonder if that is what will reconnect them again in the future. I'd love to see the story line where Agatha mentors Wanda.
The writing on Agatha All Along is tight. I'm wondering nobody is talking about the conversation 'Agnes' had with Rio over pizza in episode 1. 'Agnes' talks about a car incident in Eastview an hour before the time of death for the body found by the creek. She talks about blood in the back seat, and 2 air bags deployed. There has to be something to that. 'Teen's' end credit talks about a "Near Death in Westview". Death surrounds his character. What if his parents (2 air bags) died in a car crash. Blood in the back seat could be Teen. What if Teen is the body found in woods and the only reason why 'Agnes' saw 'Wanda' -it's because Teen has a connection to Wanda? BTW, Wanda 'died' 2 years prior to this show so a lot could had happened with 'Teen' during that time.
I was just mentioning that, however, I thought the 2 airbags deploying was something to do with a symbolic Billy and Tommy somehow escaping the hex. But I love your theory more, think you could be right!
Feel like nobody talked about the "carcrash lead" scene, felt so random but in mistery genre theres a trope that in the first episode theres always a lead that has a detail that says A LOT in second view
When that came up, I started thinking if was some reference to strange and chavez - they said 2 airbags went off. I’d need to rewatch and listen again for other connections Maybe the town over is a reference they were coming from other universes ? Chavez from the one she came from and strange was in the body of one from the other universe
I thought it was more straightforward than that, I assumed it was a clue revealed by Aubrey Plaza later that episode when she says: “There are 2 Jane Doe’s in this case”. So basically just Agnes realizing she herself was one of the victim’s.
The mystery of a redhead being mysteriously crushed in the woods was a sly reference to both Wanda and the Wizard of Oz, where the beginning of the journey down yellow bricked road is marked by a witch crushed to death by a house. The empty lot where Wanda's house stood being shown later in the show.
Loved being a part of the live! Thanks @BreakroomNR for replying to one of my comments! I'm going hard on the Gambit is Agatha's son train! So excited!
Random theory after hearing the words "Black Heart" multiple times in reference to the 4th coven member Agatha was supposed to select. If Aubrey Plaza's Rio Vidal is not Morgan La Fey in disguise, I could easily see her being a gender bent Blackheart (son of mephisto in comics, but would be daughter in this case).
Jennifer Kale's new agey shop has to be a joke about Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop. The scene was full of jokes about the kinds of BS Goop sells and the controversies around Goop. The jade egg jokes are very on the spot. Jennifer being sued for her products burning her customers could even be a reference to a Goop candle that exploded, and Goop being fined for misleading advertisements.
I love how the show makers are so aware that we hyperanalyse every single detail so when Teen is saying his name his mouth is blocked out, and when he's telling about his background in the car they cut away from his face altogether so we can't lip read at all.
I just rewatched wandavision... When sparky dies Agatha seems to sincerely ask "you can do that!?" When the twins say wanda can fix the dead. That makes me think this is what she maybe wanted all along, to bring back her son. 😂😂 crazy theory 😅
My favorite parts of the first two episodes were how well thought out this series appears to be. In the breakdown, Eric theorizes that the DVDs in Agatha's closet might be Wanda's collection of Sitcoms. Possibly but I thought what if they are Agatha's collection. First off, I can't imagine Agatha watching sitcoms - she really does strike me as the procedural/true crime type. That made me wonder if during her three years under the spell, Agatha, like Wanda cycling through the sitcoms from Dick VanDyke through to Modern Family, has been living in crime shows the entire time, going from Dragnet to Hawaii 5-0 to Columbo to Miami Vice to Hill Street Blues to Law and Order to Mare of Eastwick, which would be kind of cool. It could be the missing Agatha series. Which leads me to some wonderful lines by "Herb" to the naked Agatha. I've always wanted to see from Marvel an everyday person's perspective of these super events, like what was it like to live through the five years of Thanos' snap. We get a little of that here. Of course, if you were a Westview resident you wouldn't want to say Wanda's name out loud as it would be so traumatic to so many (of course, later, Mrs Davis/Hart fearlessly blurts it out). The reveal by "Herb" that the town of Westview has been humoring Agatha as she acted out her Agnes of Westview delusion first struck me as a bit of clunky writing. But on further thought I realized it was actually very beautiful. Of course the residents of Westview would look out for the last person to be under Wanda's hex. The townsfolk would have seen Wanda hex Agatha into Agnes and how could they not have their hearts go out to her. I could really see one of her neighbors building the fake car in her living room to help ease her in her delusion and probably to help keep her off the road (if she was living through police dramas then for safety sake they wouldn't want her having car chases through the neighborhood! Also from the townfolk's perspective, Agatha would be their hero in that she was the one who broke Wanda's hex over them. I also have to mention Agatha seeing the vandalized foundation of Wanda and Vision's house which tore my heart apart. Of course, some of the residences of Westview would topple some of the stones and deface it with graffiti reacting from their profound hurt and grief not realizing the basis for Wanda's actions. That plot of land would be like any "haunted house" or witch's home in any small town. I can see some of the teens of Westview daring each other to go to that plot of land at midnight or making it a ritual to throw stones at it. Which just reminds me that in reality, people in history that were often seen as witches were usually solitary women, often widows, living with grief, mental issues, loneliness and just being a little different than others; and that society often, at best, drove these women out of town or more likely killed them to rid themselves of the "evil witch." To the residents of Westview, Wanda is clearly the evil wicked witch but we as viewers know her more as someone more complex and sympathetic, similar to how Wicked gives a reason to the why the Wicked Witch of the West is so evil. In WandaVision, Agatha killed Sparky, and in this new series Agnes on hearing the neighbors dog bark says "Stupid dog." Remember one of the famous lines from the Wizard of Oz is the Wicked Witch's "And your little dog too!"
The Teen probably being both Nick Scratch and Billy Caplan gives me very Once Upon a Time vibes, another show where the residents of a small town are stuck within a witch's spell. Wanda and Agatha can make great parallels to Emma and Regina fighting over their biological/adoptive son Henry in the show.
My theory is that Agatha had a coven of her own or recruited witches to go on the road, sacrificed them and that’s why her mothers coven decided to kill her.
If you look closely at the scene where Teen makes a noise upstairs when he breaks in, Rio doesn’t react at all like Agatha does. I think they are secretly working together.
this episode of the break room was superb! I found myself reaching for the like button at least 5 different times. Can't wait for the entire song by y'all for the finale. And that 'is that a door?' at the very end unalived me 😅
Shoutout to dude in the glasses who after Jessica basically outlined how Indigenous magic should be acknowledged as the first magic? He was like 'nah, do this instead. ' Bro. 😮💨
Rio and Agatha struck me as a sexually tense Elphaba and Galinda. Two powerful people on two different sides. Agatha sucks power and kills, Rio is a green witch who heals, so maybe their powers are opposite sides. The DarkHold would be the dark book, so maybe Rio has an opposite book? In Agatha's attempt to get the DarkHold the first time, she lied to Rio, and corrupted her, which is why her heart is black? Possibly?????
The hum in Agatha All Along is very similar to the Intro hum in the series "The Secret Circle". Also the bell Agatha strikes is shaped like a Witch's hat.
In episode 2 of Agatha, there's a scene where she looks at the lot where Wanda's house was and when teen pops up on her, it cuts back to her looking at him and in the background on the concrete of Wanda's lot, there's a Wanda M symbol in a circle with a cross out over it like "no mutants".
All ima say, is "what if in the MCU..." Wanda says "no more witches!"... and because of heartbreak- william/billy/teen says "no more mutants.... maybe his "boyf" is indeed a hulkling and he gets his heart broke in some way... its so convieniant for characters to not have to discuss actual physical involvement, but allude to relations and then emotionally react to a past moment....
Okay cast your vote. Is Rio - The Emerald Warlock (from the Witches' Road comic story). - Blackheart (Mephisto's child) - Morgan Le Fay - A different comic book character - A fully original character
I truly think this could be Nicholas Scratch Agatha’s kid especially with the brunette lock of hair in the broach and the child sacrifice comment . I think at the end his wish for power might be the cosmic punch of Wanda’s son spirit being placed in or merged with Teen to give him the powers he wants and Wanda’s son a form in 616. I truly think Agatha cast some form of memory spell around her son and whose whole existence, even from herself most importantly.
Okay.. call me crazy and I realize I am probably off base on several things with this but…. It’s fun so I’ll just say it. 1. Rio Vidal is lady death 2. Mrs. Heart (black heart on calendar in Wandavision just like on divination list) is an actual green witch and pretty powerful (semi-broke through at dinner in original hex and pseudo-controlled her husband in that scene). She was laughing and telling the husband to stop it when he choked and when that didn’t work she shifted her focus to Wanda with a surprising amount of awareness. What if she is just a stealthy and powerful witch who diverts attention by being sweet and harmless looking? 3. Lady Death and Agatha had falling out bc Agatha’s son was part of deal (for darkhold?) that results in them not being able to harm each other which maybe evolved from a relationship thing. Agatha partly broke that deal which is how Nick Scratch ended up in shared body with Bobby/Wiccan as the Teen and why they pseudo-hate each other but there seems to be some feelings as well
So, as a witch from New Jersey, we have several reasons for Wanda and Agatha to reside here. We have had several covens here over the years including my own. The Devil resides here, just a fact, he's our mascot let us not forget. New Jersey has a great many ghost towns and we are right in the middle of ever place in the east coast that matters. Farm country and Suburbia combined with City scape. Ocean and mountains are here too. It's the Reason The Darkness Resides here. The comic book Darkness PS. There is plenty of history here to pull from for a witch show to be in New Jersey. Native culture to be had here as well. Ruby shoes were on the Witch of the East, you can not get more east either in the United States than New Jersey. Yes, Westview, but Westview has a 'W' in it. Probably for Wanda. Not to boast either but we have route 666 here too. There is plenty of old spooky colonial towns here. Our state is just superior haha. The Birds, Jaws, and many other horror greats were based on attacks in New Jersey. Lady Liberty, she is in New Jersey Waters. People sleep on my State, that's their Folly. I guess the writers knew that.
It’s smart for the breakroom to take advantage of Agatha season to hopefully hit a stride or a boost akin to the main channel during WandaVision. Also having E Voss and J Clemons on to cover . I will be observing this channel closely to see if this strategy is efficient .
Some fun things regarding divination, with tarot, scrying, etc it's usually a means to channel. What the reader is channeling varies but it could be the universal spirit, a particular spirit/ghost, some channel deities and other inhuman spirits. Some channel multidimensional planes even. The way they showed channeling with Lillia was so cool!
It switched from sitcoms to grittier true crime stuff because it was based on Agatha's mind after Wanda left. Agatha has a grittier mind/personality than Wanda, and it was probably easier for the spell to work on her if it created a world more suited to Agatha's mind/personality. Rio and the others don't show up until after Wanda is gone to find Agatha because they couldn't get inside the Hex AND Agatha had protection spells surrounding her. I bet the protections just started wearing off as Wanda's spell on Agatha started weakening. Rio (and everyone else) probably couldn't get to Agatha until she broke completely out of the hex/spell. The road didn't open right away because they did not have Rio. I think Rio slipped in unseen when the Salem 7 showed up and that activated the door. She's on the road with them but they don't know it yet. Sharon Davis might actually be a witch or have power and just not know it. That would be a lot of fun. The "teen" is Billy Caplan/Wiccan. His real reason for walking the road is to get his real mom (Wanda) back. Or maybe he's being manipulated by Mephisto to walk the road and bring back the Scarlet Witch to regain the power of the Darkhold or something. So, it's either a protection spell from his connection to Wanda or from whatever villain is using him to get that tasty Road Power. Wanda's dead. She'll either be back after Billy gets to the end of the Road OR this show will lay some of the groundwork for the "Children's Crusade" storyline in which the Young Avengers bring Wanda back. The Wanda movie could be Children's Crusade or Wanda's journey back to power or her interaction with West Coast Avengers or a multitude of other Wanda journeys that happen before House of M is ever a thing. It's too early for House of M considering we don't even properly have mutants yet. Maybe the writers choose to show her being mentored in some way by Wanda like she was in the comics...who knows what the studio will choose. Agatha is the best witch and it ain't even close, lol.
I think that they are mephistoing us with red herring to make us think it might be her son but I still think it'll be Wanda's son but maybe she can grow a sorta nanny bond and help bring her sons back to her. Teen said in one of the episodes rip to his mom and I think he's talking about Wanda. I also think he's been so obsessed in knowing who Agatha is and studying her and magic because he might remember her and thinks she might be powerful enough to not only help him remember who he is but also bring his mom back. His fingers were black which I think references he might be trying to bring his mom back and maybe he's the reason why the body just appears in the woods "magically" like Agatha said. He could have tried and failed to bring his mom back?
If I remember my little Spanish knowledge, Rio Vidal (very) roughly translates to River of Life. Since she speaks Spanish in the show, there's something there I feel
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand Just like that river twisting through a dusty land And when she shines, she really shows you all she can Oh Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande ~ Duran Duran .. .
It looks like the M/W that is written across Teen's lips isn't quite the same as the one on the crew sweatshirts or Tarot cards: it's a mirror image. Maybe it's not written *on* his lips - could it be written from the inside? Is whoever/whatever is possessing Teen preventing him from revealing himself?
I wonder if Agatha got so power-hungry that she inadvertantly (or potentially purposefully) stole Nicholas' powers and/or killed him while playing with dark magic.
7:52 The black heart for Mrs. Heart also is a callback to wandavision episode 1. When Vision had a dinner set up with Mr. Hart he had it marked on the calendar as a black heart
The last spark of Agatha’s power was in her rabbit - her familiar - which was also connected with her son and now teen or Toto Wanda couldn’t take away her son
Hear me out. The dirt under the deceased women's nails were from East-Europe. Mount Wundagore (where Wanda allegedly died) is also in Easter Europe + the victims fingers being black, which was the case for Wanda before she allegedly died. They will most likely reveal other peoples perspectives at the end of the series like they did in Wandavision about Agatha.
Guys if you see the scene where the teen puts the welcoming sign and agatha takes it out, the only letter that remains is the W thats behind the teen, W as Wiccan :)
Something that nobody is talking about is that the door appeared on the ground right after "Teen" high pitched "AGATHAAAAAAA". There was no door until he said that. He is definitely involved in the witches somehow. I don't know how this keeps getting overlooked.
Good point! I think his trust in her to save him from the scary witches was enough of a bond to consider Teen and Agatha in a true coven, and when that happened, the door was opened for the coven. Perhaps it was Teens belief in the coven that gave it enough power to become a real coven
Just had a thought.. around the 55-59min mark Jessica was talking about the first people and how their energy might have left a mark on the areas of Westview. Originally I was thinking (while this is a super valid historical point) what does this have to do with this show and its story? But now on my 3rd watch of episode 1, I noticed that Agatha says to Rio in the police station "let's stick to reality here, yeah? if there's one thing we agree on, its that these cases are always about the PLACE. The SPECIFIC small town. The people in it, THE SECRETS BURIED BENEATH IT(she put a lot of emphasis on this and the following line). THAT'S where the answers lie.." IDK what it means for the bigger picture, but re-watching after hearing Jessica mention this history, made a big lightbulb go off in my mind. I think that scene is significant. Maybe she was referencing The Road buried beneath, but I think you guys should put your theory-solving brains on this tidbit of info hehe I'd love to see how that line might come around to mean more later on in the series
I think she was sitting in her pretend car setup to see if she actually remembered how to drive in real life. Aside from her 3 years in suburban hell, she was used to flying when she needed get around. She went from a controlling "ill drive" to a slightly humbled "you drive" after double checking if she knew the controls.
I have heard rumors that Rio is Morgaine Le Fay which means Runaways is which universe because we already had her ?! I would have loved a cross over where Nicco would meet America Chavez . Nicco is a powerful witch and the daughter of a powerful sorcerer from the Asian sanctum . I need this .
Marvel’s Runaways and Agents of SHIELD must be in the same unviverse because I did some googling, and they both had the same looking Darkhold. So Elizabeth Hurley was the Morgan Le Fay of that universe. Rio could be the MCU Morgan.
Doesn't anyone else notice the minor Parallels with the Wizard of Oz? Witches Road is the Yellow Brick Road. She calls the kid Toto. She teams up with 3 other witches. Haven't connected their needs to the "brain, courage, & heart" from it yet. Maybe one of you could shed some insight?
If they did a reverse House of M where Wanda said something like "we need mutants" or "let there be (more) mutants", I would love that to happen *at the end* of an Avengers movie. They're losing (obviously), and she says those words, and then the credits start. As a bonus, maybe we would be able to see some of those mutants go through the transition in like short cuts, in the post-credits scene. But like Olsen said, we need SMART writers to write this.
They mention “child sacrifice” in the potion shop 🧪, I think that previous sacrifice was Agatha’s son, Nicolas Scratch! Thanks for all your hard work guys! ❤🇬🇧👍
my theory is that wanda made it so that her kids could exist when she died. instead of changing matter when it enters her hex she put a hex on herself as a sacrifice and made the twins out of herself, changing reality so that they had always existed . (the red glow after she was “crushed”) billys goal is probably to bring her back some how after getting powers
I thought it was kinda nice the townspeople still tried to take care of Agatha even tho she’s lowkey mean to everyone 😂 They probably made the car so she doesn’t get hurt or hurts anyone after they probably took her keys away 😂
@@bigrandomun9267I recommend you to read the comics of the twins, I'm going to spoil it, their conscience just transferred to other kids. That's also why they look different.
I believe they said it needed a true coven to open the door, like a unified one. So I think that even though they sang the song it was the presence of the Salem seven that opened it. Although the teen could’ve played a small part. Because I think Agatha had him as a lookout with the intent on leaving him behind on purpose
For Sharon Davis i thought she might going to be a witch. i just thought she said something about a green thumb and she is really good with flourishing flowers, also it happened that agatha wanted to have a green witch to join the coven. could that be a coincidence that she picked Sharon in that moment?
I personally feel like Agatha hasn't actually been down the witches road, she acted surprised about the whole thing, especially when the door became rock. I think she just wanted them to gather and take their powers, hence why she would send teen upstairs. I think it'll come up like midway through the series that she hasn't been there before, and it'll cause a division in the coven
Sorry watching this last and just had this idea that you guys might say later but what if the reason Agatha can’t understand teen when he talk about his personal life is becuase teen (or a higher power) wants to trick Agatha into thinking he’s her son.
2 items: When Agatha was still under spell, all the rooms had green walls. And, I think teen will be Billy Kaplan but at end of Road, Agatha will want Nicholas Scratch back and TEEN will house his soul, because he asks the Road for his/a mother
I assumed the Salem 7 were coming to kill her for killing her coven in Salem. They couldn't before because she was too powerful, but now that she is powerless they can finally bring her to justice.
Weird detail that got me curious.. When Agatha was meeting Jennifer, she says she is out of marbles (haha), but in the bit looking at Nicholas' room there is a box of marbles in the screen.
Finally the return of good marvel tv xD My initial theories: • Rio is Agathas ex. It's her hair that's in the locket which Agatha wears over her chest, maybe representing the black heart. I also think Rio is the Earth or Green witch. • Teen I think is a version of Wanda's son Billy, and here's why. In the comics, Billy is gay and we find out Teen is gay. Teen mentions in passing that his mum is dead. He's also able to remove wandas hex off agatha with surprising ease. I think his motivation to go down the witchs' road is to either obtain the Dark Hold, which his blackened fingertips in ep 1 suggest. Or to be reunited with his mum, bringing wanda back from the dead or another universe (remember the thing most desired will be rewarded if you reach the end of the road) Marvel loves a good double cross, so I wouldn't at all ve surprised if the sweet boy ends up ruining everyone's day, and Rio is the hero who turns up to save it :)
I really enjoy the theories that Rio Vidal might actually be Morgana Le Fay or a female version of the Emerald Warlock. As The Green Witch arguably she could fit both of those possibilities, right? Now, Teen is definitely Billie or Nicholas and I am standing on this hill for now. His magic is blue like Billie's on some images released... but that is nothing really. Whatever, he gotta be related to Agatha somehow.
I’m just gonna drop here a reference to how this story might be paralleling the relationship between the movie Wizard of Oz and the film sequel, Return to Oz.
What if Agatha realized that Wanda M. is the one who put the curse on the Teen and therefore she's still alive and therefore Agatha wants her powers back sooner rather than later?
Double double toil and trouble! You aren't seeing double - this video was originally broadcast LIVE earlier in the day, and is now available to watch again! What're you most looking forward to in this season?
And don't forget to check out the Breakdown for these first two episodes on New Rockstars!
ruclips.net/video/WHlEO1Bphu0/видео.html&ab_channel=NewRockstars
Can I throw in a wild theory? What if the reason why we and Agatha can't hear "Teen" theory is because what if Teen is a combination of Nicolous Scratch and Billy Kaplan. Hear me out so you know Jennifer Hale "pink witch" talked about how teen was another of agatha "child sacrifice" and in Wandavision when we had the flashback of agatha at the stake almost burned by the 7 witches and her mother for using the "Darkhold" what if while using the book to gain power or whatever one recipe or step ask for a sacrifice of a child or pure person so Agatha did what she needed to do to gain more power ( i mean look at the 2 episodes of Agatha all along and episode 8 and 9 of Wandavision) tell us what she really wants. As a result, because she sacrifice her kin or an innocent to gain power she was cursed to be unable to never know where her son reincarnate to or where he will be possibly why anytime "Teen" gives hints of his identity, she is unable to know who he is so possible Teen (possibly Billy) is reincarnation of Nicolas. Also, Agatha and Wanda somewhat have similar motives when liking to working alone and also mentality of getting what they want if there is a heavy price to pay. Also, what about the bunny, I can predict the reason why it names Scratch is possible mourning her lost son so the bunny being named that is more of her coping what has happen to her in the past and forgetting it I mean episode 1 of Agatha All Along show the room of her son Nicholas being that of someone who died and left that way as though it their in her head but she can't forget even though as time past memories fade. That my prediction of what Teen represents.
I love that Debra Jo is basically playing Kitty. I adore her so much and her little quips. “Am I supposed to know this song” to screaming the lyrics by the end had me in stitches.
Same 😂. It's like hearing the hook of the song, so she could at least sing along after a minute or 2. Was hilarious
She pretty much plays one character, but she's magnificent in that role. I love that lady.
Debra is the best thing that ever happened to the MCU
Lmao, yess hahaha, whenever she said that, then later on, I joined in.and when thier all going back and forth, you hear her say that she thought they all sounded good 😂
The 70s show reference in the basement as the camera panned around like they were smoking ganja was so hilarious. The crew really knocked this one outta the park
Oh Jessica, im so happy you exist.
I like the idea of Agatha losing her son, it makes her and Wanda even more similar. It makes me wonder if that is what will reconnect them again in the future. I'd love to see the story line where Agatha mentors Wanda.
Jessica's face when Brandon asks if anything brought joy 🤣
The writing on Agatha All Along is tight. I'm wondering nobody is talking about the conversation 'Agnes' had with Rio over pizza in episode 1. 'Agnes' talks about a car incident in Eastview an hour before the time of death for the body found by the creek. She talks about blood in the back seat, and 2 air bags deployed. There has to be something to that. 'Teen's' end credit talks about a "Near Death in Westview". Death surrounds his character. What if his parents (2 air bags) died in a car crash. Blood in the back seat could be Teen. What if Teen is the body found in woods and the only reason why 'Agnes' saw 'Wanda' -it's because Teen has a connection to Wanda? BTW, Wanda 'died' 2 years prior to this show so a lot could had happened with 'Teen' during that time.
I was just mentioning that, however, I thought the 2 airbags deploying was something to do with a symbolic Billy and Tommy somehow escaping the hex.
But I love your theory more, think you could be right!
This is what's been driving me crazy.
Loved these 2 episodes. Simple as that. Hyped for each week going forward.
2 felt so short ugh once a week will feel like nothing
Same! Episode 2 was even better. Great surprise.
The white flowers on the which’s road are the same from Ms. Heart’s garden, and the only flowers she grows. She’s more then meets the eye
Hmmm
Feel like nobody talked about the "carcrash lead" scene, felt so random but in mistery genre theres a trope that in the first episode theres always a lead that has a detail that says A LOT in second view
Ooo gotta keep an eye out for sure!
When that came up, I started thinking if was some reference to strange and chavez - they said 2 airbags went off. I’d need to rewatch and listen again for other connections
Maybe the town over is a reference they were coming from other universes ? Chavez from the one she came from and strange was in the body of one from the other universe
I thought it was more straightforward than that, I assumed it was a clue revealed by Aubrey Plaza later that episode when she says: “There are 2 Jane Doe’s in this case”. So basically just Agnes realizing she herself was one of the victim’s.
The mystery of a redhead being mysteriously crushed in the woods was a sly reference to both Wanda and the Wizard of Oz, where the beginning of the journey down yellow bricked road is marked by a witch crushed to death by a house. The empty lot where Wanda's house stood being shown later in the show.
Agatha even refers to the Teen as Toto!
Loved being a part of the live! Thanks @BreakroomNR for replying to one of my comments! I'm going hard on the Gambit is Agatha's son train! So excited!
Random theory after hearing the words "Black Heart" multiple times in reference to the 4th coven member Agatha was supposed to select. If Aubrey Plaza's Rio Vidal is not Morgan La Fey in disguise, I could easily see her being a gender bent Blackheart (son of mephisto in comics, but would be daughter in this case).
That's a good call.
Jennifer Kale's new agey shop has to be a joke about Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop. The scene was full of jokes about the kinds of BS Goop sells and the controversies around Goop. The jade egg jokes are very on the spot. Jennifer being sued for her products burning her customers could even be a reference to a Goop candle that exploded, and Goop being fined for misleading advertisements.
Cracking up a Jessica looking like she has no patience for this today lol 😂😂
No kidding!!! 😂😂😂
Omg I was cracking up too😂 . I’m thinking she must be tired for the day.
U ok Jessica?
Jessica is overstimulated by the vibes. She seems to have a deep connection with the occult. It's real and it affects ur mood
@@lunarose22388what are you yapping about?
I hope Mrs hart is "witchy enough" and she lasts through the whole thing
Kathryn Hahn is my new favorite actor. She is incredibly talented! Truly impressive.
I love how the show makers are so aware that we hyperanalyse every single detail so when Teen is saying his name his mouth is blocked out, and when he's telling about his background in the car they cut away from his face altogether so we can't lip read at all.
@oxigen85 soon we'll just get full audio episodes lol
I just rewatched wandavision... When sparky dies Agatha seems to sincerely ask "you can do that!?" When the twins say wanda can fix the dead. That makes me think this is what she maybe wanted all along, to bring back her son. 😂😂 crazy theory 😅
My favorite parts of the first two episodes were how well thought out this series appears to be. In the breakdown, Eric theorizes that the DVDs in Agatha's closet might be Wanda's collection of Sitcoms. Possibly but I thought what if they are Agatha's collection. First off, I can't imagine Agatha watching sitcoms - she really does strike me as the procedural/true crime type. That made me wonder if during her three years under the spell, Agatha, like Wanda cycling through the sitcoms from Dick VanDyke through to Modern Family, has been living in crime shows the entire time, going from Dragnet to Hawaii 5-0 to Columbo to Miami Vice to Hill Street Blues to Law and Order to Mare of Eastwick, which would be kind of cool. It could be the missing Agatha series.
Which leads me to some wonderful lines by "Herb" to the naked Agatha. I've always wanted to see from Marvel an everyday person's perspective of these super events, like what was it like to live through the five years of Thanos' snap. We get a little of that here. Of course, if you were a Westview resident you wouldn't want to say Wanda's name out loud as it would be so traumatic to so many (of course, later, Mrs Davis/Hart fearlessly blurts it out).
The reveal by "Herb" that the town of Westview has been humoring Agatha as she acted out her Agnes of Westview delusion first struck me as a bit of clunky writing. But on further thought I realized it was actually very beautiful. Of course the residents of Westview would look out for the last person to be under Wanda's hex. The townsfolk would have seen Wanda hex Agatha into Agnes and how could they not have their hearts go out to her. I could really see one of her neighbors building the fake car in her living room to help ease her in her delusion and probably to help keep her off the road (if she was living through police dramas then for safety sake they wouldn't want her having car chases through the neighborhood! Also from the townfolk's perspective, Agatha would be their hero in that she was the one who broke Wanda's hex over them.
I also have to mention Agatha seeing the vandalized foundation of Wanda and Vision's house which tore my heart apart. Of course, some of the residences of Westview would topple some of the stones and deface it with graffiti reacting from their profound hurt and grief not realizing the basis for Wanda's actions. That plot of land would be like any "haunted house" or witch's home in any small town. I can see some of the teens of Westview daring each other to go to that plot of land at midnight or making it a ritual to throw stones at it. Which just reminds me that in reality, people in history that were often seen as witches were usually solitary women, often widows, living with grief, mental issues, loneliness and just being a little different than others; and that society often, at best, drove these women out of town or more likely killed them to rid themselves of the "evil witch." To the residents of Westview, Wanda is clearly the evil wicked witch but we as viewers know her more as someone more complex and sympathetic, similar to how Wicked gives a reason to the why the Wicked Witch of the West is so evil. In WandaVision, Agatha killed Sparky, and in this new series Agnes on hearing the neighbors dog bark says "Stupid dog." Remember one of the famous lines from the Wizard of Oz is the Wicked Witch's "And your little dog too!"
😮we commenting essays now?
Leaving out Jess’s Surtur shirt was criminal!
I think the best possible version of this show is the one where rio vidal ends up actually being shadow king
That would be insane
The Teen probably being both Nick Scratch and Billy Caplan gives me very Once Upon a Time vibes, another show where the residents of a small town are stuck within a witch's spell. Wanda and Agatha can make great parallels to Emma and Regina fighting over their biological/adoptive son Henry in the show.
Been waiting on this one!!. show was dope Agatha made me a fan never knew I'd like this genre in marvel
If the darkhold does come back maybe Werewolf by Night cameos can happen the darkhold is the reason for werewolves and vampires existing in the comics
yeah
My theory is that Agatha had a coven of her own or recruited witches to go on the road, sacrificed them and that’s why her mothers coven decided to kill her.
If you look closely at the scene where Teen makes a noise upstairs when he breaks in, Rio doesn’t react at all like Agatha does. I think they are secretly working together.
this episode of the break room was superb! I found myself reaching for the like button at least 5 different times. Can't wait for the entire song by y'all for the finale. And that 'is that a door?' at the very end unalived me 😅
Shoutout to dude in the glasses who after Jessica basically outlined how Indigenous magic should be acknowledged as the first magic? He was like 'nah, do this instead. '
Bro. 😮💨
Rio and Agatha struck me as a sexually tense Elphaba and Galinda. Two powerful people on two different sides. Agatha sucks power and kills, Rio is a green witch who heals, so maybe their powers are opposite sides. The DarkHold would be the dark book, so maybe Rio has an opposite book? In Agatha's attempt to get the DarkHold the first time, she lied to Rio, and corrupted her, which is why her heart is black?
Possibly?????
The hum in Agatha All Along is very similar to the Intro hum in the series "The Secret Circle". Also the bell Agatha strikes is shaped like a Witch's hat.
Just finished this video… too funny that you were like… “no!, we’re singing!!!!”
Too funny.
Love the channel
In episode 2 of Agatha, there's a scene where she looks at the lot where Wanda's house was and when teen pops up on her, it cuts back to her looking at him and in the background on the concrete of Wanda's lot, there's a Wanda M symbol in a circle with a cross out over it like "no mutants".
the set looks so great! just watched both eps back to back and had sm fun with them, super excited for these weekly reactions :) 💜
All ima say, is "what if in the MCU..." Wanda says "no more witches!"... and because of heartbreak- william/billy/teen says "no more mutants.... maybe his "boyf" is indeed a hulkling and he gets his heart broke in some way... its so convieniant for characters to not have to discuss actual physical involvement, but allude to relations and then emotionally react to a past moment....
How is it that no RUclipsr has commented/ noticed that the teen character is wearing a black heart earring?!! 🖤
Okay cast your vote. Is Rio
- The Emerald Warlock (from the Witches' Road comic story).
- Blackheart (Mephisto's child)
- Morgan Le Fay
- A different comic book character
- A fully original character
I am SO excited we are back to witchy chaos!! 💜
This show is already THIS rich in details and easter eggs. I’M COOKED! 💜
I'm looking forward to seeing Joe more in this and future MCU projects. I love him in Heartstopper.
Teen witch, Agatha, The 3, and the new witch, 6 + the black heart. That's 7. So I'm looking forward to the 7 vs 7 fight
Oooooo That would be so fun
I truly think this could be Nicholas Scratch Agatha’s kid especially with the brunette lock of hair in the broach and the child sacrifice comment . I think at the end his wish for power might be the cosmic punch of Wanda’s son spirit being placed in or merged with Teen to give him the powers he wants and Wanda’s son a form in 616. I truly think Agatha cast some form of memory spell around her son and whose whole existence, even from herself most importantly.
Lilia first said it was a black heart and then Agatha brushed her off saying "cuz you used a black pen"
Okay.. call me crazy and I realize I am probably off base on several things with this but…. It’s fun so I’ll just say it.
1. Rio Vidal is lady death
2. Mrs. Heart (black heart on calendar in Wandavision just like on divination list) is an actual green witch and pretty powerful (semi-broke through at dinner in original hex and pseudo-controlled her husband in that scene). She was laughing and telling the husband to stop it when he choked and when that didn’t work she shifted her focus to Wanda with a surprising amount of awareness.
What if she is just a stealthy and powerful witch who diverts attention by being sweet and harmless looking?
3. Lady Death and Agatha had falling out bc Agatha’s son was part of deal (for darkhold?) that results in them not being able to harm each other which maybe evolved from a relationship thing. Agatha partly broke that deal which is how Nick Scratch ended up in shared body with Bobby/Wiccan as the Teen and why they pseudo-hate each other but there seems to be some feelings as well
So, as a witch from New Jersey, we have several reasons for Wanda and Agatha to reside here. We have had several covens here over the years including my own. The Devil resides here, just a fact, he's our mascot let us not forget. New Jersey has a great many ghost towns and we are right in the middle of ever place in the east coast that matters. Farm country and Suburbia combined with City scape. Ocean and mountains are here too. It's the Reason The Darkness Resides here. The comic book Darkness PS. There is plenty of history here to pull from for a witch show to be in New Jersey. Native culture to be had here as well. Ruby shoes were on the Witch of the East, you can not get more east either in the United States than New Jersey. Yes, Westview, but Westview has a 'W' in it. Probably for Wanda. Not to boast either but we have route 666 here too. There is plenty of old spooky colonial towns here. Our state is just superior haha. The Birds, Jaws, and many other horror greats were based on attacks in New Jersey. Lady Liberty, she is in New Jersey Waters. People sleep on my State, that's their Folly. I guess the writers knew that.
The theories in this video are interesting.... Thank the Gods we had Jessica and Eric. The Pa Accent was hilarious
It’s smart for the breakroom to take advantage of Agatha season to hopefully hit a stride or a boost akin to the main channel during WandaVision. Also having E Voss and J Clemons on to cover . I will be observing this channel closely to see if this strategy is efficient .
Some fun things regarding divination, with tarot, scrying, etc it's usually a means to channel. What the reader is channeling varies but it could be the universal spirit, a particular spirit/ghost, some channel deities and other inhuman spirits. Some channel multidimensional planes even.
The way they showed channeling with Lillia was so cool!
It switched from sitcoms to grittier true crime stuff because it was based on Agatha's mind after Wanda left. Agatha has a grittier mind/personality than Wanda, and it was probably easier for the spell to work on her if it created a world more suited to Agatha's mind/personality.
Rio and the others don't show up until after Wanda is gone to find Agatha because they couldn't get inside the Hex AND Agatha had protection spells surrounding her. I bet the protections just started wearing off as Wanda's spell on Agatha started weakening. Rio (and everyone else) probably couldn't get to Agatha until she broke completely out of the hex/spell.
The road didn't open right away because they did not have Rio. I think Rio slipped in unseen when the Salem 7 showed up and that activated the door. She's on the road with them but they don't know it yet.
Sharon Davis might actually be a witch or have power and just not know it. That would be a lot of fun.
The "teen" is Billy Caplan/Wiccan. His real reason for walking the road is to get his real mom (Wanda) back. Or maybe he's being manipulated by Mephisto to walk the road and bring back the Scarlet Witch to regain the power of the Darkhold or something. So, it's either a protection spell from his connection to Wanda or from whatever villain is using him to get that tasty Road Power.
Wanda's dead. She'll either be back after Billy gets to the end of the Road OR this show will lay some of the groundwork for the "Children's Crusade" storyline in which the Young Avengers bring Wanda back.
The Wanda movie could be Children's Crusade or Wanda's journey back to power or her interaction with West Coast Avengers or a multitude of other Wanda journeys that happen before House of M is ever a thing. It's too early for House of M considering we don't even properly have mutants yet. Maybe the writers choose to show her being mentored in some way by Wanda like she was in the comics...who knows what the studio will choose.
Agatha is the best witch and it ain't even close, lol.
I think that they are mephistoing us with red herring to make us think it might be her son but I still think it'll be Wanda's son but maybe she can grow a sorta nanny bond and help bring her sons back to her. Teen said in one of the episodes rip to his mom and I think he's talking about Wanda. I also think he's been so obsessed in knowing who Agatha is and studying her and magic because he might remember her and thinks she might be powerful enough to not only help him remember who he is but also bring his mom back. His fingers were black which I think references he might be trying to bring his mom back and maybe he's the reason why the body just appears in the woods "magically" like Agatha said. He could have tried and failed to bring his mom back?
Jess youre thinking of Missy (female version of the master) on Dr who. Loved these episodes 🎉
Agatha all along is so phenomenal & relevant in this times😁I hope we can see mephisto🤞🏻
Finally getting around to this episode, amazing!
Think she was in the supermarket instead of Dottie’s home. The shelves are probably the aisles and she was staring at some cereal boxes or something
If I remember my little Spanish knowledge, Rio Vidal (very) roughly translates to River of Life. Since she speaks Spanish in the show, there's something there I feel
Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land
And when she shines, she really shows you all she can
Oh Rio, Rio dance across the Rio Grande ~ Duran Duran .. .
It looks like the M/W that is written across Teen's lips isn't quite the same as the one on the crew sweatshirts or Tarot cards: it's a mirror image. Maybe it's not written *on* his lips - could it be written from the inside? Is whoever/whatever is possessing Teen preventing him from revealing himself?
I wonder if Agatha got so power-hungry that she inadvertantly (or potentially purposefully) stole Nicholas' powers and/or killed him while playing with dark magic.
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The black heart for Mrs. Heart also is a callback to wandavision episode 1. When Vision had a dinner set up with Mr. Hart he had it marked on the calendar as a black heart
The last spark of Agatha’s power was in her rabbit - her familiar - which was also connected with her son and now teen or Toto Wanda couldn’t take away her son
The door appeared before the teen ran down the steps. That’s how he was able to run thru them. Remember they opened the door together
Tbh that down down down the witches road you did when Eric hit the high note was absolutely pitch perfect
Hear me out. The dirt under the deceased women's nails were from East-Europe. Mount Wundagore (where Wanda allegedly died) is also in Easter Europe + the victims fingers being black, which was the case for Wanda before she allegedly died. They will most likely reveal other peoples perspectives at the end of the series like they did in Wandavision about Agatha.
I’m pretty sure she says in Wandavision that she felt the spell being cast and that’s why she came to Westview in the first place
Guys if you see the scene where the teen puts the welcoming sign and agatha takes it out, the only letter that remains is the W thats behind the teen, W as Wiccan :)
The Mists of Avalon is a book all about Morgan Le Fey. She is in the Arthur Ian stories too.
Witch time go, wait wrong podcast lol. Love yall
Something that nobody is talking about is that the door appeared on the ground right after "Teen" high pitched "AGATHAAAAAAA". There was no door until he said that. He is definitely involved in the witches somehow. I don't know how this keeps getting overlooked.
Good point! I think his trust in her to save him from the scary witches was enough of a bond to consider Teen and Agatha in a true coven, and when that happened, the door was opened for the coven. Perhaps it was Teens belief in the coven that gave it enough power to become a real coven
Just had a thought.. around the 55-59min mark Jessica was talking about the first people and how their energy might have left a mark on the areas of Westview. Originally I was thinking (while this is a super valid historical point) what does this have to do with this show and its story? But now on my 3rd watch of episode 1, I noticed that Agatha says to Rio in the police station "let's stick to reality here, yeah? if there's one thing we agree on, its that these cases are always about the PLACE. The SPECIFIC small town. The people in it, THE SECRETS BURIED BENEATH IT(she put a lot of emphasis on this and the following line). THAT'S where the answers lie.."
IDK what it means for the bigger picture, but re-watching after hearing Jessica mention this history, made a big lightbulb go off in my mind. I think that scene is significant. Maybe she was referencing The Road buried beneath, but I think you guys should put your theory-solving brains on this tidbit of info hehe I'd love to see how that line might come around to mean more later on in the series
What if the charm placed on Billy was a protection spell placed by Wanda....?
I was hoping for Sharon Davis to mention having an ancestor who was accused of witchcraft back in colonial times.
I think she was sitting in her pretend car setup to see if she actually remembered how to drive in real life. Aside from her 3 years in suburban hell, she was used to flying when she needed get around. She went from a controlling "ill drive" to a slightly humbled "you drive" after double checking if she knew the controls.
The dirt found under the nails of the body in the creek is the same dirt that Agatha piked up when she opened the door to the the road
I don’t know if anyone has said this already, and I don’t want to go down the Eric road, but Maphisto’s son is called Blackheat.
Son of Mephisto and Wanda?
I have heard rumors that Rio is Morgaine Le Fay which means Runaways is which universe because we already had her ?! I would have loved a cross over where Nicco would meet America Chavez . Nicco is a powerful witch and the daughter of a powerful sorcerer from the Asian sanctum . I need this .
Marvel’s Runaways and Agents of SHIELD must be in the same unviverse because I did some googling, and they both had the same looking Darkhold. So Elizabeth Hurley was the Morgan Le Fay of that universe. Rio could be the MCU Morgan.
i think Aubrey Plazas character is either mephistos daughter or death like actual thanos/deadpool lover death
i think Aubrey Plazas character is either mephistos daughter or death like actual thanos/deadpool lover death
Doesn't anyone else notice the minor Parallels with the Wizard of Oz? Witches Road is the Yellow Brick Road. She calls the kid Toto. She teams up with 3 other witches. Haven't connected their needs to the "brain, courage, & heart" from it yet. Maybe one of you could shed some insight?
Loving Kathryn Hahn in this❤🎉 So many great acting choices are being made by her💜🖤 Just 100% commitment!
If they did a reverse House of M where Wanda said something like "we need mutants" or "let there be (more) mutants", I would love that to happen *at the end* of an Avengers movie. They're losing (obviously), and she says those words, and then the credits start. As a bonus, maybe we would be able to see some of those mutants go through the transition in like short cuts, in the post-credits scene. But like Olsen said, we need SMART writers to write this.
They mention “child sacrifice” in the potion shop 🧪, I think that previous sacrifice was Agatha’s son, Nicolas Scratch! Thanks for all your hard work guys! ❤🇬🇧👍
Mare of Easttown… if you have not seen that HBO series, definitely watch it! It’s so good! The twists are great
my theory is that wanda made it so that her kids could exist when she died. instead of changing matter when it enters her hex she put a hex on herself as a sacrifice and made the twins out of herself, changing reality so that they had always existed . (the red glow after she was “crushed”) billys goal is probably to bring her back some how after getting powers
Agatha's mother had blue magic, and now teen will allegedly have blue magic, which still makes it either Agatha's or Wanda's son.
I thought it was kinda nice the townspeople still tried to take care of Agatha even tho she’s lowkey mean to everyone 😂 They probably made the car so she doesn’t get hurt or hurts anyone after they probably took her keys away 😂
The Teen is Wanda's kid he want's to walk the road because you get what you want most at the end and he want's his Mom
I agree but also how is he here? Where is his brother? How did he leave that realm he was supposedly trapped in?
@@bigrandomun9267I recommend you to read the comics of the twins, I'm going to spoil it, their conscience just transferred to other kids. That's also why they look different.
I believe they said it needed a true coven to open the door, like a unified one. So I think that even though they sang the song it was the presence of the Salem seven that opened it. Although the teen could’ve played a small part.
Because I think Agatha had him as a lookout with the intent on leaving him behind on purpose
This show was so amazing!!!
agatha said about the heart "its only black because you used a black pen" and i rofld
For Sharon Davis i thought she might going to be a witch. i just thought she said something about a green thumb and she is really good with flourishing flowers, also it happened that agatha wanted to have a green witch to join the coven. could that be a coincidence that she picked Sharon in that moment?
Wasnt nick scratch one of the boys in the Netflix series Sabrina??
That series was soooo GOOD AS WELL!!!🙌🙌
I personally feel like Agatha hasn't actually been down the witches road, she acted surprised about the whole thing, especially when the door became rock. I think she just wanted them to gather and take their powers, hence why she would send teen upstairs. I think it'll come up like midway through the series that she hasn't been there before, and it'll cause a division in the coven
Jessica was close to knocking that guy out to her left😂
The door could have opened when Rio approached the house. She did say she would watch when the Salem Seven came for Agatha.
Sorry watching this last and just had this idea that you guys might say later but what if the reason Agatha can’t understand teen when he talk about his personal life is becuase teen (or a higher power) wants to trick Agatha into thinking he’s her son.
2 items:
When Agatha was still under spell, all the rooms had green walls.
And, I think teen will be Billy Kaplan but at end of Road, Agatha will want Nicholas Scratch back and TEEN will house his soul, because he asks the Road for his/a mother
I assumed the Salem 7 were coming to kill her for killing her coven in Salem. They couldn't before because she was too powerful, but now that she is powerless they can finally bring her to justice.
I love Jessica’s ideas very good
Wait… this explains a lot. I knew those New Rockstar and Screen Crush videos seemed very similar.
Weird detail that got me curious.. When Agatha was meeting Jennifer, she says she is out of marbles (haha), but in the bit looking at Nicholas' room there is a box of marbles in the screen.
Finally the return of good marvel tv xD
My initial theories:
• Rio is Agathas ex. It's her hair that's in the locket which Agatha wears over her chest, maybe representing the black heart. I also think Rio is the Earth or Green witch.
• Teen I think is a version of Wanda's son Billy, and here's why. In the comics, Billy is gay and we find out Teen is gay. Teen mentions in passing that his mum is dead. He's also able to remove wandas hex off agatha with surprising ease. I think his motivation to go down the witchs' road is to either obtain the Dark Hold, which his blackened fingertips in ep 1 suggest. Or to be reunited with his mum, bringing wanda back from the dead or another universe (remember the thing most desired will be rewarded if you reach the end of the road)
Marvel loves a good double cross, so I wouldn't at all ve surprised if the sweet boy ends up ruining everyone's day, and Rio is the hero who turns up to save it :)
How is the car wreck in Eastview connected?
I really enjoy the theories that Rio Vidal might actually be Morgana Le Fay or a female version of the Emerald Warlock. As The Green Witch arguably she could fit both of those possibilities, right?
Now, Teen is definitely Billie or Nicholas and I am standing on this hill for now. His magic is blue like Billie's on some images released... but that is nothing really. Whatever, he gotta be related to Agatha somehow.
i think she’s either mephisitos daughter or death
I’m just gonna drop here a reference to how this story might be paralleling the relationship between the movie Wizard of Oz and the film sequel, Return to Oz.
What if Agatha realized that Wanda M. is the one who put the curse on the Teen and therefore she's still alive and therefore Agatha wants her powers back sooner rather than later?