A spin of of a spin of doesn't mean it's bad the anime franchise "Fate" is a bunch of spinoffs of a visual dating novel and it's awesome. Watch Fate Zero if you doesn't believe me. (And don't drop it after the first 3 episodes they are set up for all the characters, the setting and the magic system the show really start's with episode 4 but you can't just start the show with episode 4 you need to watch the first 3 episodes)
Police Squad!, which he stars in, is comedy gold. That's the show I'd love to see a reboot of! "Who are you and how did you get in here?!" "I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith." * "We would have come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then." * (Exposing a criminal) "And before that, you sang backup for Aretha Franklin!"
It's nasty cynical slop. You've got the drag queen overacting, Broadway musical theatricality, she hulk level writing, and Disney hatebate marketing. I think ultimately they're setting up a "Well, it's bad ON PURPOSE, so it's ACTUALLY good. It's so meta you wouldn't understand." excuse.. and they're under the mistaken impression that's somehow clever.
You must be a toxic bro fan or you'd get it! I always go back to the question of where were the toxic fans for House of the Dragon, Arcane, or blue eyed samurai?
@@nuclearmedicineman6270 I think "bad on purpose, so it's actually good" is really hard to pull off. The Room, for example, is a comedic riot because the cast and crew take it so seriously and they aren't self aware of how bad everything is. They weren't making a bad movie on purpose; quite the opposite. That juxtaposition is comical, thus we have a work of (unintentional) comedic genius. It's hard to articulate how precisely, but I think if they were trying to act badly, it would be less funny because it's not as organic and you wouldn't have that juxtaposition.
It won’t be, until we replace all the actors’ lines, with the word ‘ghey.’ Must Ghey TV! Sir, you’re a genius! (Referring to South Park, It Hits the Fan, Season Five Episode One.)
I just love that the mcu focuses on irrelevant d list characters instead of the cool A list characters. It’s such a good idea to give us movies and shows on characters people ignore like the three heroes from the marvels, Agatha, Echo, Iron heart, and Okeye and wait years to make Disney plus shows on A list street level characters daredevil and punisher, completely ignore other A list heroes like luke cage, ghost rider, and Jessica jones, and completely f up characters like Blade. It was also a bold decision to make many of these new characters either bland and have no personality or obnoxious and quippy.
I want to point out that Jessica Jones is definitely not A-List, and Luke Cage was pretty much unknown by the general public for decades, being popular in the 70s and mostly forgotten until the Netflix series, and even then he's B-Tier at best. The problem isn't not getting A-Tier superheroes for the shows because, really, if the shows were good it wouldn't matter if they decided to dig up obscure characters and base shows around them. As Mauler likes to say, people always come up with excuses and weird reasons as to why the shows suck, but the core issue is, and has always been, that the writing just sucks because they keep hiring bad writers, or writers with little or no experience, to write these shows. I mean, what's your cope for how Guardians Of The Galaxy became S-Tier characters capable of being successful mostly outside of the MCU continuity despite originating as an obscure group before the first movie, to the point where it was famously predicted to be the first major failure in the MCU?
@@qty1315 I agree with the general sentiment, but is is still interesting WHY they do what they do. Guardian of the the Galaxy was made because Gunn like obcsure characters, but I doN't belvie most of the Marvel decision made by guys like him. The fact thet they choose very unknown characters is strange as you would think they want to milk the bigger ones. Though the sad thing is, I think they use obscure characters because they have 0 trust in any creators they give money to make new shows so they want to avoid ruining the bigger ones, or the other possbility thet people who make this shows are want unknown characters because they can morph them more easily as not as many fan will be attacking them for ruining their's favorite characters. In both case it is pretty terrible state of affairs.
Well it's Disney+ that's like their straight to DVD line, the A list gets the movies. And honestly so far it's kind of entertaining. Will it be as good as WandaVision nah probably not, but is it still enjoyable so far yes.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 Writers/directors/studios like to use obscure characters because they are a mostly blank slate where they can go any direction and not have a mob of torch bearing angry villagers yelling at them. It is tough to do that with Captain America. Captain America has to be Captain America or a lot of people will be angry.
People are choosing to hate it because it is what keeps their sites going. I think this show is good and I dont recognise a lot of the criticisms of it.
@@clownofthetimes6727 I think the guys in the video are nitpicking. The show does have issues but not the ones they're talking about. So far it's average. Not terrible. These guys will tear apart any show that's aimed at women especially older women
And that's insane because if it wasn't made for straight men then why aren't the LGBTQ+ crowd they made it for watching it either. Nobody wants to watch crap regardless of demographic
Columbo has shown that you can make an entertaining mystery when you already know the five w’s (who, what, when, where, and why). But it takes deft storytelling to allow the characters to catch up with what we know. Agatha ain’t that.
Columbo worked because the character was compelling and competent and you loved to root for him. And as unique as Columbo was, Monk managed to recreate the formula in an almost seamless fashion, AND add drama and stakes to the equation. So it can absolutely be done. It can. I don't know WHY the screenwriters can't learn that though.
That's what makes the least sense. Who is the audience for this show? It's obviously not meant for the guys who like Marvel Superheroes. And I don't imagine the people who were fans of 'Charmed' or 'Designing Women' are even aware, or care about any Marvel programming on Disney Plus?
@@clownofthetimes6727 Given that the actors themselves called it the 'gayest marvel show ever', I would expect a better question is where are there NOT lesbians.
@clownofthetimes6727 if you can't see it it's too late for you. Why would a female child get excited about seeing a grown woman naked? Clown of the times.. you got that right.
Az idea about Agatha waking up to realize the entire city is empty and everyone she was talking with was an illusion could be a great start for the show. Heck, have the city be surrounded by a big wall, with guards from SWORD.
The whole "we won't reveal the teen guy's name" is also cringe because we know it's Billy, Scarlett Witch's kid from Wandavision - who is a nothing character and means nothing in the MCU just like the rest of this show.
Instagram has a bunch of women gushing about Agatha, and it sounds really scripted. "What if you had a frenemy that was your secret crush and then THIS happened? OMG it's Agatha All Along!!!"
This company will never go out of business. White moms keep letting their children be raised by Disney. I see colleges ,and see the final results. Let's just call it out for what it is.
Instead of being a “toxic” fan and hating on the show, I’ll just be nice to those that will watch it. I’m happy for the 14 viewers of this show who are more than likely paid influencer shills that fake their excitement about every Disney production, rate everything 10/10 and then attack critics who dare criticize Disney. I’m sure shills like doomblazer, honest trailers, reel rejects, and new rockstars will have a grand ol time watching yet another poorly written Disney plus show no one asked for about a bunch of lame irrelevant d list characters.
Those shills are just shouting into the wind. They can't make people watch or make any of these shows successful I just look at them like I do that weird guy that stands on the street corner downtown shouting bible verses over a guitar amp at full volume. Neither of them are winning any converts by being crazy.
I've watched the first two episodes and so far it's been pretty good. Is it Oscar worthy? Nah but it's an enjoyable little series so far. Not everything on Disney+ has to be top tier epic, sometimes a good B show is ok. I'm interested to see where this goes as a show. But some people take entertainment today way to seriously.
Ever think of doing a Rotten Tomatoes parody rating system? Critical Tomatoes? We need an alternate. Podcasts and movie reviews are better ofc, but just to pour salt on their wounds… something extra could be used.
Call it Salad Bar, after the scene in Robin Hood: Men in Tights where all the villagers are throwing vegetables at Cary Elwes. The more money a movie makes, the more "lettuce" it gets.
Love it or hate it, this whole "trapped within a delusion" thing was already done brilliantly in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I don't recall which season or episode, and in the spirit of Drinker, I'm too drunk to look it up right now. But Buffy is shown as a patient in a mental institution, intercut with her fighting monsters, then back to her in the institution with her parents pleading with her to come back to reality. And it is actually heartbreaking when she turns away, her eyes shift to the "thousand yard stare" and we cut back to her killing monsters. It was actually done well enough that I was left wondering which world was the real world of the show. Was the entire BtVS show a fever dream? Great stuff. [And don't bother me with crapping on Joss. I don't care. The show was amazing.]
@@ItsaKindOfMagic86 Thanks. I have the full series on Plex. I should go watch that episode. That one along with "The Gift" (I think the finale of season 5, but not sure about the season) bring me to tears every time.
It’s interesting that young people express the exaggeration of 50s and 60s sitcomS… and yet growing up at that time, I remember feeling that television was reflecting back on me, my reality… Typical middle-class North American… We were all kind of like that back, then… At least most of us… But also, I think television was a combination of reality, play, and the stuff of ideals, and dreams… the playbook has changed… As a reflection of society, I do not think present television is an exemplar of a better style.… Ideals were more towards order back, then… Coming out of the generation that went to war… Now I believe we are living with the generation that came out of the 60s any inclination is more toward chaos.
HOUSE came and went and I didn't begin watching it until after its TEN year run had ended. And I only lasted for the first two seasons. When a show becomes popular by its third season or so it begins overdoing the "We know we're super popular and here's why" thing. Nothing new can even make it that far because all it is is "The Message".
She had a stroke when she was young and has been really just cast as a comedy character because of her ability to be so deadpan (due to a being physically unable to emote for awhile). Unfortunately she’s sorta just been type cast but I’ve seen her in a couple serious roles and she can do really well. It’s just far less common
She had some time in White Lotus to show some actual emotion and character development. Even if it was underneath of her typecast passive aggressive 0FG exterior schtick
She had some time in White Lotus to show some actual emotion and character development. Even if it was underneath of her typecast passive aggressive 0FG exterior schtick
Watched up to the interrogation room scene. The acting was so terrible and over the top that I had to give up. And they promoted this as True Detective meets MCU 😂
Man.. this makes me sad. Like, I knew this show would probably be bad, but.. I have to agree; Aubrey Plaza (I have no idea how to spell her name, sorry) really does just play herself--which is fine, some actors have gotten by doing that their whole careers--but it makes me miss the range some have. One of my favorites to point out to people, watch the first Iron Man movie, and also watch A Scanner Darkly. HOLY CRAP, Robert Downey Jr.'s range is INSANE. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS HIM the first time I watched A Scanner Darkly! (Great movie, btw; phenomenal book, too--the movie stayed true to the book, and deserves to be remembered for it, as well as the great acting.) Anyway, that's all, but it's pretty entertaining when you realize it, y'know? Just food for thought.
It would have been smarter doing a rip-off of Angel Heart where Agatha spends the whole first season as a gritty detective rediscovering her true identity... And Aubrey Plaza could have been a sarcastic version of DeNiro's Louis Cypher.
Disney has a new thing if finding the most annoying actor imagineable and then putting them front and center in their hype campaign - with Snow White it was Rachel Weird-weird Ziegler, and with Acolyte you had two for the price of one, Miss Discourse and Madame Yasss Yasss. Now with Agatha - which actually has some really great actresses - they put some MAD magazine mascot bobblehead dude and focus on some huge "mystery" around him. No. One. Cares.
I think Marvel completely forgot that only Agatha was still under a spell as punishment. The towns people were free. Wanda had no idea she had done all that stuff, until after it was over. It was all from the greif of Visions death. So the cop thing involving others, is nonsense. As you guys said. Where is S.W.O.R.D.??
The whole town of Westview will be on SWORD's radar since Agatha resides there; it's a given that they're at least observing. Whether they'll get involved remains to be seen. And Agatha is the only one who was under a spell, not sure why you think any differently.
@@Neiri-qg2wk Can you not read and comprehend. I started by saying only Agatha was under a spell. Maybe try reading sentences, not each individual word seperately.🤣🤣
@@colinwest3301 you said you think Marvel forgot about that. And when you say "the cop thing involving others, is nonsense" you show you did not understand what was happening.
I was a professional stage actor for 17 years, I have a bachelors degree in theater, and a masters degree in acting. As such, I have avoided anything with Katherine Hahn in it since The Last Mimzy.
My husband is loyal to the MCU while I lost interest after Endgame. So that means I secondhand watch these spinoffs when he puts them on. I wouldn't say the first two episodes are terrible on a She-Hulk level, but not the best of the best. Kind of feel like these shows exist to be background noise while I wash dishes or something.
Yeah, She-Hulk is still the worst MCU show. Agatha is not terrible, just kinda meh with some cringe moments. They had a good premise, but they ruined it as always.
You are absolutely correct, but not to "watch" when you wash dishes, but to occasionally glance at when you are on your phone swiping TikTok or Instagram
It's targeted to older women. It's okay. There's elements that could've been done better. Kathyrn is overacting, the effeminate boy was a mistake in casting and I don't care about the other supporting characters. But, I think this journey could be interesting to see how Agatha gains her powers back or if she gains them back at all.
The thing is there are probably hundreds of older shows or more that people haven't watched that are great, or tons of videos from channels that people could watch or listen to or put on an older music station and discover some hidden gem songs they never heard before. I don't know why anyone would want to watch slop and put money in Disney's pocket to make new slop unless they really liked it, if so then more power to them.
I'm glad to watch this. After giving up on 'The Acolyte,' and 'Rings of Power' ... inwardly groaning at these cringe highlights is the best way to enjoy geek pop culture... ...What a tragic state of nerd life...
I’ve just realized the whole plot of episode 1 is exactly like the scenario of Shutter Island. The protagonist (in this case Agatha) is living out a delusional fantasy and the people around them (the townsfolk) are playing along for a mysterious purpose. But the issue is, unlike in Shutter Island, the townsfolk have absolutely no reason to deceive Agatha. They gain nothing from this. In the former, it’s revealed that the main character isn’t a detective, but actually a patient at the mental hospital he’s investigating, and the “case” he’s working on is actually an elaborate experiment conducted by the facility’s staff. Just as AZ said, the townsfolk have absolutely no reason to stay there. First, Wanda kept them prisoner there and tortured them. Second, why would anybody want to live in proximity to a dangerous person like Agatha? It’s like what Jay Goodwin commented at 11:04; it’d be like staying in your neighbourhood where there’s an armed nuke, just because they’ve put a bike lock on it. And of course there’s absolutely no mystery there, since they completely scrap the whole idea by revealing everything at the end of the episode.
I thought it was a lot better than she hulk, secret invasion, the marvels, ms marvel, pretty much everything recent. It’s still not super amazing, but I think it’s a step in the right direction. Wandavision isn’t very fresh in my head, so maybe I’m missing some important details. Agatha’s acting as a cop was pretty bad, but maybe that’s supposed to be part of the whole “her under a spell” thing. I still felt there was a bit of an agenda at play making Wicken gay. Not sure if that is comic accurate, but it felt a little forced
That winking face in the thumbnail looks a lot like when I joke pretend having a seizure, and you tell me that is a face made by an actress in a big-budget Marvel Movie
Kathryn Hahn was in a cop procedural called "Crossing Jordan" wayyy back in the day which was technically a drama. She was a quirky, sensitive hippy type of character.
The Westview sign at the beginning shows about half the residents it did during Wandavision. So a bunch of people did leave. But this was an economically depressed town, so a lot of people might just not be able to afford to up and leave. Also I don't think the residents ever knew who/what Agatha really was. Sure, she and Wanda had a fight above the town, but they were so high up, nobody would have been able to make out Agatha's face, even with the best binoculars.
I’m not going to be critical for Disney on this series. I don’t seem to understand the point of being too critical on a D marvel character while as myself being extremely critical to a history changer like the acolyte. They don’t have that same “wavelength” that i should be critical at. That’s my observation.
Why do we keep having spon off shows where the villain then gets a spin off show where they dont act even remotely like they did in the first show? Bobba fett, Echo, Loki, Agatha... waiting for the "Thanos: The Teenage Titan Years" or something where hes not a tyrant, hes a misunderstood genius and was gay and thats why people distrust him. He only snapped away the bigots
Kathryn Hahn definitely follows the Catherine O'Hara/Molly Shannon school of hammy comedy acting. And for me she went from relative unknown to overexposed in less than 3 years; I won't be watching her in anything for a long time.
I often tell people the hardest part of being on a panel like this is when guys like Az and Fringy are just slaying it, I can't add anything to the conversation Just sit back and let the boys cook lol.
They heard Agatha Harkness and witch and decided to make utter garbage that doesn't resemble the character whatsoever. So pretty standard for Hollywood, I suppose.
Episode 1 should be a truman´s show, with SWORD buying all the town and getting the old neighbours swap with sword agents to prevent Agatha to remember who she is. The she discovered the truth, escaped, and shit starts. Aubrey Plaza could be a sword agent looking for her or something.
2024. Maybe we hire better storytellers, writers, artists, and humans who actually went to some kind of acting school or a high school to learn how to construct a strory.
@mrlsoarezz I think mostly because it's an afterthought in the show around halfway through the first episode. Had they played that up for 3 episodes, I think it could have had something interesting. I also think they are really leaning into Wanda not being dead.
12:25 so they basically stole the story from "shutter island", gave Agatha Leonardo DiCaprio's part from it as her intro. They really can't think of anything original, can they? I'll just rewatch shutter island again than give any of this attention.
That would likely be SWORD apprehending her if they were to do so. And yes it doesn't make a lot of sense. Once Wanda died, SWORD would've been keeping very close tabs on Agatha if not taking her into custody altogether. No way would she be free to go roadtripping and jumping dimensions.
The problem I have with the premise - that Wanda's death frees Agatha, as far as I can tell - is that it's already established in the MCU that it's insanely hard to break a dead person's spell, even for cosmic-level characters (as Strange tells Squidward in Infinity War). Am I wrong?
Wanda's death isn't enough to break her out. In the first two episodes, the Teen and whoever Aubrey Plaza is both play a role in freeing her. The Teen (who I assume is Wiccan) has a line about it that might be a little blink and you miss it. That's what his chanting in the "interrogation room" was about. It's partly why she changes her mind about keeping him around.
Maybe Aubrey Plaza plays almost all her roles about the same, that's probably for what she's getting hired. Where she was really good is the series Legion, which next to Daredevil is the best Marvel show I've seen so far and almost the whole cast is doing a good job in it. So with good material and propper directing she can act. Still a crazy role though...
I liked Legion until about the last season or two. It started getting a little woke. The way the chick that could switch bodies said she felt guilty her life for what she did to her mother and stepfather, then changed it and somehow blamed him. Even though she basically graped him, got him locked up and ruined her mother's life. Then she started being really hateful and selfish to her boyfriend even though he was going through mental issues and hunted by a demon. I think around the time of the last two seasons was when Hollywood got really big about not letting men, especially straight white men be the center of any show or film and it just got worse from there. The same thing happened with SYFY's the Magicians. Even though it was based on a book they decided to kill off the white male lead and even made it a point in the show that they told the character he had to die because he was a white male and he was taking attention away from the females and minorities, so he had to 'do the right thing' and choose to die. The shows ratings tanked after that and was soon canceled.
Just wanted to add, they did establish rules in the first two episodes. After she's free, it shows her going to drive and realizing her "car" was actually this crazy set up in her dining room. The entire time, she is mostly in her house, wandering around her neighborhood, and not going anywhere - the neighbors have been bringing her food. It has an "I Am the Cheese" vibe where she thinks she's traveling around, when in reality she's just interacting with her home and the people in close vicinity to it.
These guys rambled for 17 minutes while making it clear that they didn't pay much attention to the show. They basically hate it because it is targeted to older women. The show has issues but it's not horrible and they're clearly not critically analyzing it.
@@Neiri-qg2wk Yeah, I'm a little annoyed with this one. I generally enjoy this channel and the other critics here, but this really felt like, "I've already decided I'm going to rip this apart, so I don't have to pay attention." There were a lot of questions, criticisms, and comments in this segment where it's clear they were only half-watching because they were distracted by forming criticisms in their mind for the video. It's decent enough so far that I'm going to continue watching. I'm hoping Little Platoon will review this show. Agree or not - and I usually agree with him - I at least know he's paying attention to the media he's criticizing. And if I disagree with him, I'll feel like he's making fair comment. This segment felt like clowning on the show for the sake of clowning on it.
@@prismmonkey I find the majority of his panels are whining sessions. He does his best analysis when it’s just him making a video. That being said, he was never going to critically analyze this show properly because he clearly has this thing against any show targeted to an older female demographic . He’s not the only critic like that. Rob Agers has the same bias.
Lets hope Chris Gore is right that Marvel are changing direction and shows like Agatha All Along had to be released because the wheels of production had already been set in motion
It would have been better to see her in the 1600s or something when she first walked the road... See her as a good witch driven to be evil by the tome...
You guys should watch this guy called Grizzy. He compiles videos of paid Disney shills I mean Star Wars and mcu fans doing over the top reactions to Disney plus shows, melting down at any criticism towards these billion dollar franchises, and of them taking shots at fans. They cry actual tears seeing irrelevant c list characters die or seeing something like anakins ghost appear, hyperventilate seeing the most obscure characters ever or seeing baby yoda walk, rate every Disney product as 10/10 and try to feign excitement for mediocre movies like the marvels and madame web simply because it stars women. The most pathetic ones mock people like Star Wars Theory and Nerdrotic and their fans while giving a bunch of ammunition for people hit back them with by cross dressing, having an OF, or letting their wife have an OF. They’re the perfect little Disney consumers. I’m sure they’ll be feigning excitement for everyone’s favorite d list character Agatha and giving the show high reviews.
@@Сайтамен Yeah. It's getting increasingly harder to get through his videos because of the amount of cringe coming from the shills displayed for all to see in his videos. It's pretty rough.
No, I started off feeling the first half of the first episode, even knowing the WandaVision arc. But I was waiting for the other shoe to drop and sure enough, once Agatha was revealed, it degenerated into standard MCU tv fare. All subtleties were abolished and here…we…go!
Every time I hear the name Agatha I keep thinking of Agatha Christie who wrote all those books with inspector Hercule poirot in them; coincidence? maybe.
Watch out guys, you might cause Your Boy Zack to have another Reeeeee Metaldown. You know only HE can critic stuff and only HE can say whats good and bad to consume.
My first memory of Kathryn Hahn, from two decades ago, has been from an actual cop show - Crossing Jordan. She played the most straightforward, non-comedic character there. So did Mahershala Ali, by the way.
SPOILER ALERT: In season 2 of 'Agatha All Along' she is a cop again and turns bad - really bad - shooting ALL the black people she can find. Just for kicks. Then the Wakanda Forever MARVEL heroes turn up and utterly destroy her (Leslye Headland is writing and directing season 2).
Then Agatha shoots Okoyeia and repeatedly shoots her saying, "oh look what my primitive weapons done to you. How could such a primitive weapon get you. Maybe you should call Hawkeye, his weaponry is as advanced is your!" Shoots her in the head.
Supposedly Marvel has already canceled Season 2. This month marks the 60th anniversary of the premiere of "Bewitched" with Elizabeth Montgomery playing Samantha. If that show was produced today, she would be a lesbian married to a transgender Transman. It really is sad how the MCU and Lucasfilm are so terrible. Plus we still have a few Marvel projects coming out in the pipeline including "Ironheart" and "Captain America 4". If Disney Marvel is changing direction, we won't see any changes until 2026 or 2027, if we do.
agatha needs to rediscover her powers and in the process discovers, that she was awesome all along- what an exciting, modern formula! will season 2 be about the depth, of her awesome new powers?
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“Come play with us Agatha!”. The twins are portrayed by Willow and The Acolyte.
Dude, make this meme… you’ve got the ‘shinning’….
Isn’t that the ‘Shining’?
Quiet boy, do you want to get us sued?!
like being lured into the gutter by pennywise
Followed by the scene of them all being washed away by an ocean of IOU's released from inside an elevator since they lost so much money.
Rings of Power in the background holding a drink saying "Great party, isn't it?"
The trouble is that Agatha is good and if a show is good then people will watch it.
A Marvel Disney+ show being cringe as hell?
*Must be day that ends in Y*
Freitag
Halloweeny?
Must be a show that ends with: "Why?"
@@Lawrence_Talbot 👍🎃 You could say that
but every day ends in y
If I want to watch a show about gay witches I'll stick to watching old episodes of Buffy.
Oh I miss 90’, 00’ tv
I thought Buffy was bad too, but Agatha is unsurprisingly worse.
Sabrina
@@Blu3-Fir3 yeah, 90s shows are unwatchable by 2020s standards. Too slow. Too cartoonish. Too punchliney.
A team in 2020? Come on..
The Originals.
"A spinoff of a spinoff"
That should tell you all you need to know about the importance of this show.
White Vision? Nah, we need Agatha!!
I mean Andor was that and it was good.
Taking notes from the Sims aren't they.
@@Сайтамен Andor was boring as flies f%&^ing
@@Сайтамен
Not a Star Wars show still.
A spin of of a spin of doesn't mean it's bad the anime franchise "Fate" is a bunch of spinoffs of a visual dating novel and it's awesome.
Watch Fate Zero if you doesn't believe me.
(And don't drop it after the first 3 episodes they are set up for all the characters, the setting and the magic system the show really start's with episode 4 but you can't just start the show with episode 4 you need to watch the first 3 episodes)
Agatha: And I killed Sparky too!
John Wick: Has anyone seen my new dog Sparky?
Agatha: …
Now that…. I may watch and enjoy when John goes all wick on her rear..lol
John Wick Kills the MCU? That could be a solid watch until Disney replaces John Wick with a gender/race swapped actorvist.
Crazy in four years i went from “bitch killed sparky!” To “meh”.
@@GLJosh Jabari wick/Janet wick
@@elykcrowblack1712 Jabara Wick played by Amandla Stenberg or Erin Mae Kellyman.
Hasn’t any actor watched Leslie Nielsen?!? Study that magnificent man to do serious deadpan in a hilarious role
"I **am** serious, and don't call me Shirley."
He started as a serious, dramatic actor. It was actually unexpected that the style was going to work so well in comedy.
You know I never thought about that. But if someone could recreate Leslie Nielsen, that would be pretty good.
*_"Nice beaver."_* 😉
Police Squad!, which he stars in, is comedy gold. That's the show I'd love to see a reboot of!
"Who are you and how did you get in here?!"
"I'm a locksmith, and I'm a locksmith."
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"We would have come earlier, but your husband wasn't dead then."
*
(Exposing a criminal) "And before that, you sang backup for Aretha Franklin!"
It's nasty cynical slop. You've got the drag queen overacting, Broadway musical theatricality, she hulk level writing, and Disney hatebate marketing. I think ultimately they're setting up a "Well, it's bad ON PURPOSE, so it's ACTUALLY good. It's so meta you wouldn't understand." excuse.. and they're under the mistaken impression that's somehow clever.
That was basically She Hulk to a tee. It was funny! Dont you get it!
You must be a toxic bro fan or you'd get it! I always go back to the question of where were the toxic fans for House of the Dragon, Arcane, or blue eyed samurai?
@@nuclearmedicineman6270 I think "bad on purpose, so it's actually good" is really hard to pull off. The Room, for example, is a comedic riot because the cast and crew take it so seriously and they aren't self aware of how bad everything is. They weren't making a bad movie on purpose; quite the opposite. That juxtaposition is comical, thus we have a work of (unintentional) comedic genius. It's hard to articulate how precisely, but I think if they were trying to act badly, it would be less funny because it's not as organic and you wouldn't have that juxtaposition.
... but is it gay enough?
throbbing
It won’t be, until we replace all the actors’ lines, with the word ‘ghey.’ Must Ghey TV! Sir, you’re a genius!
(Referring to South Park, It Hits the Fan, Season Five Episode One.)
That's what I'm saying I wanted some girl on girl instead I got this crap 😢
They did put a chick in it, so she must be gay.
All as per instructions from the top.
Ish is made so gay anymore especially during pride that me and my other gay friends are like omg if we sick of it imagine how the straights feel 🤦♂️
I just love that the mcu focuses on irrelevant d list characters instead of the cool A list characters. It’s such a good idea to give us movies and shows on characters people ignore like the three heroes from the marvels, Agatha, Echo, Iron heart, and Okeye and wait years to make Disney plus shows on A list street level characters daredevil and punisher, completely ignore other A list heroes like luke cage, ghost rider, and Jessica jones, and completely f up characters like Blade. It was also a bold decision to make many of these new characters either bland and have no personality or obnoxious and quippy.
I want to point out that Jessica Jones is definitely not A-List, and Luke Cage was pretty much unknown by the general public for decades, being popular in the 70s and mostly forgotten until the Netflix series, and even then he's B-Tier at best.
The problem isn't not getting A-Tier superheroes for the shows because, really, if the shows were good it wouldn't matter if they decided to dig up obscure characters and base shows around them. As Mauler likes to say, people always come up with excuses and weird reasons as to why the shows suck, but the core issue is, and has always been, that the writing just sucks because they keep hiring bad writers, or writers with little or no experience, to write these shows.
I mean, what's your cope for how Guardians Of The Galaxy became S-Tier characters capable of being successful mostly outside of the MCU continuity despite originating as an obscure group before the first movie, to the point where it was famously predicted to be the first major failure in the MCU?
@@qty1315 I agree with the general sentiment, but is is still interesting WHY they do what they do. Guardian of the the Galaxy was made because Gunn like obcsure characters, but I doN't belvie most of the Marvel decision made by guys like him. The fact thet they choose very unknown characters is strange as you would think they want to milk the bigger ones. Though the sad thing is, I think they use obscure characters because they have 0 trust in any creators they give money to make new shows so they want to avoid ruining the bigger ones, or the other possbility thet people who make this shows are want unknown characters because they can morph them more easily as not as many fan will be attacking them for ruining their's favorite characters. In both case it is pretty terrible state of affairs.
Tbf, they don't just screw the pooch on A tier characters only. They do it to all of them lol. A, b c, d lmnop characters all get it!
Well it's Disney+ that's like their straight to DVD line, the A list gets the movies. And honestly so far it's kind of entertaining. Will it be as good as WandaVision nah probably not, but is it still enjoyable so far yes.
@@reactiondavant-garde3391 Writers/directors/studios like to use obscure characters because they are a mostly blank slate where they can go any direction and not have a mob of torch bearing angry villagers yelling at them. It is tough to do that with Captain America. Captain America has to be Captain America or a lot of people will be angry.
Agatha was trapped specifically as the “nosey neighbor” by Wanda. Her neighbor should hate her
People are choosing to hate it because it is what keeps their sites going.
I think this show is good and I dont recognise a lot of the criticisms of it.
@@clownofthetimes6727you have horriffically shitty taste
@@clownofthetimes6727 Well, your username is appropriate, anyway.
@@Mereologist It's a bot leaving the standard canned response.
@@clownofthetimes6727 I think the guys in the video are nitpicking. The show does have issues but not the ones they're talking about. So far it's average. Not terrible. These guys will tear apart any show that's aimed at women especially older women
When they do these bizarre musical sections of the show, do they expect the wine moms to sing along?! Lol
...follow the bouncing Little Yellow Helper, ladies
Yes, they do.
They probably are expecting them to film TikTok videos.
It's for tic tok. So they can clip it and get views. I wondered the same thing. They seem shoe horned in and out of place.
And most likely they will
I can see the headlines now, "Racist Cist Phobes are the reason Agatha was cancelled".
And that's insane because if it wasn't made for straight men then why aren't the LGBTQ+ crowd they made it for watching it either. Nobody wants to watch crap regardless of demographic
Columbo has shown that you can make an entertaining mystery when you already know the five w’s (who, what, when, where, and why). But it takes deft storytelling to allow the characters to catch up with what we know. Agatha ain’t that.
Columbo worked because the character was compelling and competent and you loved to root for him. And as unique as Columbo was, Monk managed to recreate the formula in an almost seamless fashion, AND add drama and stakes to the equation.
So it can absolutely be done. It can. I don't know WHY the screenwriters can't learn that though.
Disney should get it over with and rebrand as the Lesbian Entertainment Network.
Lol that would be the most honest thing they ever do
That's what makes the least sense. Who is the audience for this show? It's obviously not meant for the guys who like Marvel Superheroes. And I don't imagine the people who were fans of 'Charmed' or 'Designing Women' are even aware, or care about any Marvel programming on Disney Plus?
Where are the lesbians in these two episodes?
@@clownofthetimes6727 Given that the actors themselves called it the 'gayest marvel show ever', I would expect a better question is where are there NOT lesbians.
@clownofthetimes6727 if you can't see it it's too late for you. Why would a female child get excited about seeing a grown woman naked? Clown of the times.. you got that right.
Az idea about Agatha waking up to realize the entire city is empty and everyone she was talking with was an illusion could be a great start for the show.
Heck, have the city be surrounded by a big wall, with guards from SWORD.
Critical Drinker and the Boys: "Do you seriously believe your own hype that much?"
Agatha: "I am the hype!"
Love that DBZA Vegeta
@@sclarin2 And Mr Satan too!
"Its there" - Critical Drinker describing Agatha, 2024
It's*
Describing*
It is one of the television shows of all time. It is widely acclaimed as having been made. Fans are able to watch it.
The whole "we won't reveal the teen guy's name" is also cringe because we know it's Billy, Scarlett Witch's kid from Wandavision - who is a nothing character and means nothing in the MCU just like the rest of this show.
Her pretend kid who isn't real?
@@Mereologist One of those, yes. Probably a variant
I actually didn't know that. Thanks for that.
Good luck trying to make sense of Wiccan and Speed from the comics!
He might actually be a hybrid of Nicholas Scratch and Billy.
Instagram has a bunch of women gushing about Agatha, and it sounds really scripted. "What if you had a frenemy that was your secret crush and then THIS happened? OMG it's Agatha All Along!!!"
Disney thinking buying reviews will somehow save their failing ventures
Instagram is not known for it's intellectual conversation.
16 people (all women) are happy with the show. Yay.
What a bad day to know how to read
You sure that's not Tumblr...?
Agatha was Cringe All Along. We should make our own MCU, with blackjack…. and, h••kers!
@@brockdavid 🤣
And manly men like you prefer?
Please don't laugh at Agatha running and catching up to that young man.
Her stuntwoman was a former medal-winning transgender Olympic athlete.
Gross!! Haha
It's likely she never did any running at all. When she climbed off her roof she displaced the gutter, yet later it's shown as being intact.
I dont know who watched Wanda vision and said: Can we have a show like this but with a less likable protagonist?
Its like the female Loki, and it stinks. She did a wink, and some how got a show... Ok... 🙄
Female Loki is better honestly. Expired old white men should stop having limelight now.
Her whole bad, disgruntled, piss and vinegar attitude was so painful. I was really expecting a “come at me with your full strength” line.
I can’t believe the botched nobodies favorite character Agatha Harkness
Disney would rather fail, lose billions, and become a laughing stock, before going against people like "The Gaaayesst..." interviewer.
This company will never go out of business. White moms keep letting their children be raised by Disney. I see colleges ,and see the final results. Let's just call it out for what it is.
IGN gave it an 8!!! 🙈 All thes"critics" are so out of touch with what ppl ACTUALLY want. They think they can tell us, and its pathetic.
At least they're completely impartial thank goodness.
@@PM-oq8dg you sure?
Wandavision never interested me and neither did other of the marvel shows since they were on Netflix, so this one is extra uninteresting
i'd never cared for wandavision either but at least its close as a superhero series as it could than agatha cringe all along.
Instead of being a “toxic” fan and hating on the show, I’ll just be nice to those that will watch it. I’m happy for the 14 viewers of this show who are more than likely paid influencer shills that fake their excitement about every Disney production, rate everything 10/10 and then attack critics who dare criticize Disney. I’m sure shills like doomblazer, honest trailers, reel rejects, and new rockstars will have a grand ol time watching yet another poorly written Disney plus show no one asked for about a bunch of lame irrelevant d list characters.
I noticed few of them dont even write new review. Just rewrite old reviews and change names in them & post them.
Those shills are just shouting into the wind. They can't make people watch or make any of these shows successful I just look at them like I do that weird guy that stands on the street corner downtown shouting bible verses over a guitar amp at full volume. Neither of them are winning any converts by being crazy.
I've watched the first two episodes and so far it's been pretty good. Is it Oscar worthy? Nah but it's an enjoyable little series so far. Not everything on Disney+ has to be top tier epic, sometimes a good B show is ok. I'm interested to see where this goes as a show. But some people take entertainment today way to seriously.
You're pathetic my guy
Don't forget about Cinepals.. I had to finally unsubscribe from them..
Ever think of doing a Rotten Tomatoes parody rating system? Critical Tomatoes? We need an alternate. Podcasts and movie reviews are better ofc, but just to pour salt on their wounds… something extra could be used.
That's.......GENIUS!
Maybe call it Spotted Poh-tay-toes?
Critical Beans 🫘
Call it Salad Bar, after the scene in Robin Hood: Men in Tights where all the villagers are throwing vegetables at Cary Elwes. The more money a movie makes, the more "lettuce" it gets.
"'Member WandaVision? 'Member?"
"Uhhh, no, actually..."
"I no 'member eithuh!"
Didn’t even watch Wandavision. The teaser trailer was nice tho.
Love it or hate it, this whole "trapped within a delusion" thing was already done brilliantly in Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I don't recall which season or episode, and in the spirit of Drinker, I'm too drunk to look it up right now. But Buffy is shown as a patient in a mental institution, intercut with her fighting monsters, then back to her in the institution with her parents pleading with her to come back to reality. And it is actually heartbreaking when she turns away, her eyes shift to the "thousand yard stare" and we cut back to her killing monsters. It was actually done well enough that I was left wondering which world was the real world of the show. Was the entire BtVS show a fever dream? Great stuff. [And don't bother me with crapping on Joss. I don't care. The show was amazing.]
Season 6
I think the name of the episode is "normal again" or something like that.
@@ItsaKindOfMagic86 Thanks. I have the full series on Plex. I should go watch that episode. That one along with "The Gift" (I think the finale of season 5, but not sure about the season) bring me to tears every time.
I really liked that Az did not just destroy it but articulated how it could have been built into something interesting.
Charmed continues to age like fine wine.
I hope it's the original 1998-2006 Charmed.
The show where the lead actresses took over and turned it into a ego-wankfest about themselves?
It would fit in well today, so kinda yes
Good group review discussion! Thanks, guys.
Liking Drinker’s Umbrella Guy shirt.
I like how people try to make this show seem tolerable by saying it's at least better than the Acolyte
They’re both equally garbage and both are uninteresting. They’re skippable.
It’s interesting that young people express the exaggeration of 50s and 60s sitcomS… and yet growing up at that time, I remember feeling that television was reflecting back on me, my reality… Typical middle-class North American… We were all kind of like that back, then… At least most of us… But also, I think television was a combination of reality, play, and the stuff of ideals, and dreams… the playbook has changed… As a reflection of society, I do not think present television is an exemplar of a better style.… Ideals were more towards order back, then… Coming out of the generation that went to war… Now I believe we are living with the generation that came out of the 60s any inclination is more toward chaos.
HOUSE came and went and I didn't begin watching it until after its TEN year run had ended. And I only lasted for the first two seasons.
When a show becomes popular by its third season or so it begins overdoing the "We know we're super popular and here's why" thing. Nothing new can even make it that far because all it is is "The Message".
Aubrey Plaza was Aubrey Plaza in Parks & Rec... a couple movies... the video where she's jilling off... she pretty much is always Aubrey Plaza.
Which is cringe.
She had a stroke when she was young and has been really just cast as a comedy character because of her ability to be so deadpan (due to a being physically unable to emote for awhile). Unfortunately she’s sorta just been type cast but I’ve seen her in a couple serious roles and she can do really well. It’s just far less common
@@Sakattack2023into the trash you go
She had some time in White Lotus to show some actual emotion and character development. Even if it was underneath of her typecast passive aggressive 0FG exterior schtick
She had some time in White Lotus to show some actual emotion and character development. Even if it was underneath of her typecast passive aggressive 0FG exterior schtick
Watched up to the interrogation room scene. The acting was so terrible and over the top that I had to give up. And they promoted this as True Detective meets MCU 😂
Man.. this makes me sad. Like, I knew this show would probably be bad, but.. I have to agree; Aubrey Plaza (I have no idea how to spell her name, sorry) really does just play herself--which is fine, some actors have gotten by doing that their whole careers--but it makes me miss the range some have.
One of my favorites to point out to people, watch the first Iron Man movie, and also watch A Scanner Darkly. HOLY CRAP, Robert Downey Jr.'s range is INSANE. I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS HIM the first time I watched A Scanner Darkly! (Great movie, btw; phenomenal book, too--the movie stayed true to the book, and deserves to be remembered for it, as well as the great acting.)
Anyway, that's all, but it's pretty entertaining when you realize it, y'know? Just food for thought.
Nothing would make me watch this.
I might crumble at a few thousand dollars.
I'm glad you used the wink meme, because that's the only reason they had for making this gawd awful series
It would have been smarter doing a rip-off of Angel Heart where Agatha spends the whole first season as a gritty detective rediscovering her true identity... And Aubrey Plaza could have been a sarcastic version of DeNiro's Louis Cypher.
or at least a Columbo style reveal since we already know 'who done it'
Disney has a new thing if finding the most annoying actor imagineable and then putting them front and center in their hype campaign - with Snow White it was Rachel Weird-weird Ziegler, and with Acolyte you had two for the price of one, Miss Discourse and Madame Yasss Yasss. Now with Agatha - which actually has some really great actresses - they put some MAD magazine mascot bobblehead dude and focus on some huge "mystery" around him. No. One. Cares.
Drinker warming up for this one 0:15 🤣
He’s gonna need it.😂
I think Marvel completely forgot that only Agatha was still under a spell as punishment. The towns people were free. Wanda had no idea she had done all that stuff, until after it was over. It was all from the greif of Visions death. So the cop thing involving others, is nonsense. As you guys said. Where is S.W.O.R.D.??
Marvel did not forgot anything. Agatha IS the only one under the spell when the show starts. It is not that difficult to understand.
The whole town of Westview will be on SWORD's radar since Agatha resides there; it's a given that they're at least observing. Whether they'll get involved remains to be seen. And Agatha is the only one who was under a spell, not sure why you think any differently.
@@Neiri-qg2wk Can you not read and comprehend. I started by saying only Agatha was under a spell. Maybe try reading sentences, not each individual word seperately.🤣🤣
@@colinwest3301 you said you think Marvel forgot about that. And when you say "the cop thing involving others, is nonsense" you show you did not understand what was happening.
@@dartadeqso But it makes no sense the rest of the town would just accept her (a total stranger) as a cop and go along with her fantasy.
I was a professional stage actor for 17 years, I have a bachelors degree in theater, and a masters degree in acting. As such, I have avoided anything with Katherine Hahn in it since The Last Mimzy.
This basically sounds like Fargo. I still want those two hours of my life back.
My husband is loyal to the MCU while I lost interest after Endgame. So that means I secondhand watch these spinoffs when he puts them on. I wouldn't say the first two episodes are terrible on a She-Hulk level, but not the best of the best. Kind of feel like these shows exist to be background noise while I wash dishes or something.
Yeah, She-Hulk is still the worst MCU show.
Agatha is not terrible, just kinda meh with some cringe moments. They had a good premise, but they ruined it as always.
You are absolutely correct, but not to "watch" when you wash dishes, but to occasionally glance at when you are on your phone swiping TikTok or Instagram
Race
Traitor
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It's targeted to older women. It's okay. There's elements that could've been done better. Kathyrn is overacting, the effeminate boy was a mistake in casting and I don't care about the other supporting characters. But, I think this journey could be interesting to see how Agatha gains her powers back or if she gains them back at all.
The thing is there are probably hundreds of older shows or more that people haven't watched that are great, or tons of videos from channels that people could watch or listen to or put on an older music station and discover some hidden gem songs they never heard before. I don't know why anyone would want to watch slop and put money in Disney's pocket to make new slop unless they really liked it, if so then more power to them.
I'm glad to watch this.
After giving up on 'The Acolyte,' and 'Rings of Power' ... inwardly groaning at these cringe highlights is the best way to enjoy geek pop culture... ...What a tragic state of nerd life...
Dark times. Dark times.
I’ve just realized the whole plot of episode 1 is exactly like the scenario of Shutter Island. The protagonist (in this case Agatha) is living out a delusional fantasy and the people around them (the townsfolk) are playing along for a mysterious purpose.
But the issue is, unlike in Shutter Island, the townsfolk have absolutely no reason to deceive Agatha. They gain nothing from this. In the former, it’s revealed that the main character isn’t a detective, but actually a patient at the mental hospital he’s investigating, and the “case” he’s working on is actually an elaborate experiment conducted by the facility’s staff.
Just as AZ said, the townsfolk have absolutely no reason to stay there. First, Wanda kept them prisoner there and tortured them. Second, why would anybody want to live in proximity to a dangerous person like Agatha? It’s like what Jay Goodwin commented at 11:04; it’d be like staying in your neighbourhood where there’s an armed nuke, just because they’ve put a bike lock on it.
And of course there’s absolutely no mystery there, since they completely scrap the whole idea by revealing everything at the end of the episode.
I thought it was a lot better than she hulk, secret invasion, the marvels, ms marvel, pretty much everything recent. It’s still not super amazing, but I think it’s a step in the right direction. Wandavision isn’t very fresh in my head, so maybe I’m missing some important details. Agatha’s acting as a cop was pretty bad, but maybe that’s supposed to be part of the whole “her under a spell” thing. I still felt there was a bit of an agenda at play making Wicken gay. Not sure if that is comic accurate, but it felt a little forced
Watch The Penguin instead
For a second I thought that was Rich Evans on the bottom right corner
That winking face in the thumbnail looks a lot like when I joke pretend having a seizure, and you tell me that is a face made by an actress in a big-budget Marvel Movie
With this one Drinker could've just said: "It sucks" then his outro and that's it.
Kathryn Hahn was in a cop procedural called "Crossing Jordan" wayyy back in the day which was technically a drama. She was a quirky, sensitive hippy type of character.
The Westview sign at the beginning shows about half the residents it did during Wandavision. So a bunch of people did leave. But this was an economically depressed town, so a lot of people might just not be able to afford to up and leave.
Also I don't think the residents ever knew who/what Agatha really was. Sure, she and Wanda had a fight above the town, but they were so high up, nobody would have been able to make out Agatha's face, even with the best binoculars.
Wanda conversed with Agatha in full earshot of the Westview residents before casting the memory spell; they know what she is.
@@Neiri-qg2wk I'm not going to rewatch wandavision, so I'll have to take your word for it.
I’m not going to be critical for Disney on this series. I don’t seem to understand the point of being too critical on a D marvel character while as myself being extremely critical to a history changer like the acolyte. They don’t have that same “wavelength” that i should be critical at.
That’s my observation.
Why do we keep having spon off shows where the villain then gets a spin off show where they dont act even remotely like they did in the first show?
Bobba fett, Echo, Loki, Agatha...
waiting for the "Thanos: The Teenage Titan Years" or something where hes not a tyrant, hes a misunderstood genius and was gay and thats why people distrust him. He only snapped away the bigots
"Just say Ryan Kinnel" - Az, responding to accusations of *isms.
Kathryn Hahn definitely follows the Catherine O'Hara/Molly Shannon school of hammy comedy acting. And for me she went from relative unknown to overexposed in less than 3 years; I won't be watching her in anything for a long time.
At least Catherine O Hara can actually ACT! Her performance in Beetlejuice 2 as Delia was perfection.
I often tell people the hardest part of being on a panel like this is when guys like Az and Fringy are just slaying it, I can't add anything to the conversation
Just sit back and let the boys cook lol.
They heard Agatha Harkness and witch and decided to make utter garbage that doesn't resemble the character whatsoever. So pretty standard for Hollywood, I suppose.
There is one accomplishment: It's the cure for insomnia. 😂🎉
Episode 1 should be a truman´s show, with SWORD buying all the town and getting the old neighbours swap with sword agents to prevent Agatha to remember who she is. The she discovered the truth, escaped, and shit starts. Aubrey Plaza could be a sword agent looking for her or something.
Take it easy there Fringy, sounded like you were on the verge of heart arrest 🤣
2024. Maybe we hire better storytellers, writers, artists, and humans who actually went to some kind of acting school or a high school to learn how to construct a strory.
"Naaaaah. It'll be fiiiine!"
You don't need to go to school to be able to write. You have to have good imagination and a bit of common sense.
In the great words of Drink, "Nah, it'll be fine."
@mrlsoarezz I think mostly because it's an afterthought in the show around halfway through the first episode. Had they played that up for 3 episodes, I think it could have had something interesting. I also think they are really leaning into Wanda not being dead.
@mrlsoarezz But where were the shenanigans? It was a waste of viewers' time.
12:25 so they basically stole the story from "shutter island", gave Agatha Leonardo DiCaprio's part from it as her intro. They really can't think of anything original, can they? I'll just rewatch shutter island again than give any of this attention.
If everyone knows who Agatha is, then forget about the rest of the town. Why does SHIELD not arrest her?
That would likely be SWORD apprehending her if they were to do so. And yes it doesn't make a lot of sense. Once Wanda died, SWORD would've been keeping very close tabs on Agatha if not taking her into custody altogether. No way would she be free to go roadtripping and jumping dimensions.
I guess Agatha was “boring” All Along?
The problem I have with the premise - that Wanda's death frees Agatha, as far as I can tell - is that it's already established in the MCU that it's insanely hard to break a dead person's spell, even for cosmic-level characters (as Strange tells Squidward in Infinity War). Am I wrong?
Wanda's death isn't enough to break her out. In the first two episodes, the Teen and whoever Aubrey Plaza is both play a role in freeing her. The Teen (who I assume is Wiccan) has a line about it that might be a little blink and you miss it. That's what his chanting in the "interrogation room" was about. It's partly why she changes her mind about keeping him around.
Wanda isn't dead, she was likely saved by Chthon, unless Olsen is done with Marvel.
It could be different kinds of spells. The protection from Dr Strange was specifically made to last past Stranges death.
Maybe Aubrey Plaza plays almost all her roles about the same, that's probably for what she's getting hired. Where she was really good is the series Legion, which next to Daredevil is the best Marvel show I've seen so far and almost the whole cast is doing a good job in it. So with good material and propper directing she can act. Still a crazy role though...
I liked Legion until about the last season or two. It started getting a little woke. The way the chick that could switch bodies said she felt guilty her life for what she did to her mother and stepfather, then changed it and somehow blamed him. Even though she basically graped him, got him locked up and ruined her mother's life. Then she started being really hateful and selfish to her boyfriend even though he was going through mental issues and hunted by a demon. I think around the time of the last two seasons was when Hollywood got really big about not letting men, especially straight white men be the center of any show or film and it just got worse from there. The same thing happened with SYFY's the Magicians. Even though it was based on a book they decided to kill off the white male lead and even made it a point in the show that they told the character he had to die because he was a white male and he was taking attention away from the females and minorities, so he had to 'do the right thing' and choose to die. The shows ratings tanked after that and was soon canceled.
Just wanted to add, they did establish rules in the first two episodes. After she's free, it shows her going to drive and realizing her "car" was actually this crazy set up in her dining room. The entire time, she is mostly in her house, wandering around her neighborhood, and not going anywhere - the neighbors have been bringing her food. It has an "I Am the Cheese" vibe where she thinks she's traveling around, when in reality she's just interacting with her home and the people in close vicinity to it.
These guys rambled for 17 minutes while making it clear that they didn't pay much attention to the show. They basically hate it because it is targeted to older women. The show has issues but it's not horrible and they're clearly not critically analyzing it.
@@Neiri-qg2wk Yeah, I'm a little annoyed with this one. I generally enjoy this channel and the other critics here, but this really felt like, "I've already decided I'm going to rip this apart, so I don't have to pay attention." There were a lot of questions, criticisms, and comments in this segment where it's clear they were only half-watching because they were distracted by forming criticisms in their mind for the video. It's decent enough so far that I'm going to continue watching.
I'm hoping Little Platoon will review this show. Agree or not - and I usually agree with him - I at least know he's paying attention to the media he's criticizing. And if I disagree with him, I'll feel like he's making fair comment. This segment felt like clowning on the show for the sake of clowning on it.
@@prismmonkey I find the majority of his panels are whining sessions. He does his best analysis when it’s just him making a video. That being said, he was never going to critically analyze this show properly because he clearly has this thing against any show targeted to an older female demographic . He’s not the only critic like that. Rob Agers has the same bias.
POV: Your neighbor is schizophrenic and everyone in town too polite to mention it.
Ninety-five percent of the shows and movies Kathryn Hahn has appeared in I have never heard of. I'm wishing it was 96%.
I know her from Stepbrothers which she’s fine in for five minutes
Agatha all alone in theaters! 😂
Lets hope Chris Gore is right that Marvel are changing direction and shows like Agatha All Along had to be released because the wheels of production had already been set in motion
We'll know in 2025.
Chris "I liked she hulk" Gore? That Chris Gore? 😂
It would have been better to see her in the 1600s or something when she first walked the road...
See her as a good witch driven to be evil by the tome...
You guys should watch this guy called Grizzy. He compiles videos of paid Disney shills I mean Star Wars and mcu fans doing over the top reactions to Disney plus shows, melting down at any criticism towards these billion dollar franchises, and of them taking shots at fans. They cry actual tears seeing irrelevant c list characters die or seeing something like anakins ghost appear, hyperventilate seeing the most obscure characters ever or seeing baby yoda walk, rate every Disney product as 10/10 and try to feign excitement for mediocre movies like the marvels and madame web simply because it stars women. The most pathetic ones mock people like Star Wars Theory and Nerdrotic and their fans while giving a bunch of ammunition for people hit back them with by cross dressing, having an OF, or letting their wife have an OF. They’re the perfect little Disney consumers. I’m sure they’ll be feigning excitement for everyone’s favorite d list character Agatha and giving the show high reviews.
They watched his Ahsoka video for 2 minutes and stopped because of cringe.
@@Сайтамен
Yeah. It's getting increasingly harder to get through his videos because of the amount of cringe coming from the shills displayed for all to see in his videos. It's pretty rough.
That whole paragraph was a waste of time writing.. They already reacted to Grizzy and even gave him a shoutout.
No, I started off feeling the first half of the first episode, even knowing the WandaVision arc. But I was waiting for the other shoe to drop and sure enough, once Agatha was revealed, it degenerated into standard MCU tv fare. All subtleties were abolished and here…we…go!
Meanwhile the Penguin is really good.
It’s out?
@@SuperNeos2 first episode
The one on the top of the telly? It exploded
Yeah, 1st point goes to DC.
To hear it being described, it sounds as though Ep 1 was trying for a "Shutter Island"-type deal, and then tossed it.
Every time I hear the name Agatha I keep thinking of Agatha Christie who wrote all those books with inspector Hercule poirot in them; coincidence? maybe.
"Agatha Harkness is out, everyone! Are you excited?"
I couldn't stop laughing at Drinker's expression for 10 minutes.
Watch out guys, you might cause Your Boy Zack to have another Reeeeee Metaldown. You know only HE can critic stuff and only HE can say whats good and bad to consume.
Bring on IronHeart!
My first memory of Kathryn Hahn, from two decades ago, has been from an actual cop show - Crossing Jordan. She played the most straightforward, non-comedic character there. So did Mahershala Ali, by the way.
SPOILER ALERT: In season 2 of 'Agatha All Along' she is a cop again and turns bad - really bad - shooting ALL the black people she can find. Just for kicks.
Then the Wakanda Forever MARVEL heroes turn up and utterly destroy her (Leslye Headland is writing and directing season 2).
Then Agatha shoots Okoyeia and repeatedly shoots her saying, "oh look what my primitive weapons done to you. How could such a primitive weapon get you. Maybe you should call Hawkeye, his weaponry is as advanced is your!" Shoots her in the head.
TND
sounds like they somehow made the first episode of a new show a filler episode 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻brilliant, absolutely brilliant!
Katharine Hahn was in "Crossing Jordan" long ago, which was a far more dramatic role, and she did well.
Agreed.
She was good as the mom in "The Visit" as well.
Supposedly Marvel has already canceled Season 2. This month marks the 60th anniversary of the premiere of "Bewitched" with Elizabeth Montgomery playing Samantha. If that show was produced today, she would be a lesbian married to a transgender Transman. It really is sad how the MCU and Lucasfilm are so terrible. Plus we still have a few Marvel projects coming out in the pipeline including "Ironheart" and "Captain America 4". If Disney Marvel is changing direction, we won't see any changes until 2026 or 2027, if we do.
And Uncle Arthur would be straight.
Is writing really this difficult? They should be paid less, not more, if this is the garbage they keep coming up with.
Dam Az! Your looking great!
Nice job mate keep it up!
Space lesbian witches
Wrong order... it's Lesbian Space Witches.
I wish we could get a Constantine TV show, we had one, it wasn't too bad. That's the magic character I want to see, not Agatha.
No view gang
agatha needs to rediscover her powers and in the process discovers, that she was awesome all along- what an exciting, modern formula! will season 2 be about the depth, of her awesome new powers?
Kathryn Hahn is about as funny as finding out your cat has died.
Exactly. And I don't even have a cat
Thank you! I'm glad someone said it they keep putting her in movies like she's funny!! she has NEVER been funny she's as funny as a school bus fire
@@stonerbaby895 She's the female version of Will Ferrell. Every time I see him I want to bang nails into my own head with the phone book.
@@stonerbaby895 She's the female version of Will Ferrell. Nuff said.
more freakin' movies for her than a cat has lives