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I appreciate your videos, but you talk surface level and reiterate the same points over and over again without actually going into any detail. I know you have a course but providing some actual examples would make these videos a lot more useful.
Oh man, I wish I'd come across this video two months ago. I spend two months studying for a cert using info videos and flash cards. The first couple of weeks were fine but each day I was adding flash cards to the point where now I'm at 1500+ total flashcards and I'm so done. It's just too much. I'm forgetting everything I've learnt. This is the first week that I've taken without any studying because I'm just tired. Time to do a revamp of my study situation
Finally! Somebody is seeing things like I see it! To me fc are a waste of so much time! First, those pieces of cardboard are expensive in my country. Second, writing the cards are time consuming. Third, you can do exactly the same and getting the same results just by creating the cards on regular old paper, same shape and all. By the end of the course you will have so much junk in your possession that you’d need storage. And on top of it, there is a chance you will not use those cards ever again in your life bc all is available in google.
Great video! I've had similar thoughts before watching. If we take memory palaces as an example, one of the reasons that the information sticks, is not just visualization, but because we create a relationship to a existing memory (ie the loci). Flash cards, when performed with a question/answer style can serve to atomize information. The best flash cards are one in which you're tested through relationships ie a diagram of the skull and naming the parts. You can see the relationship to various parts of the skull through the diagram, and you get to test yourself. However, creating flashcards can take time and overwhelm yourself with the amount of content, however, creating relationship based flashcards my reduce the overwhelm but increase the time to create. Also, being asked the same question all the time can get really boring! If we take languages as another example, it would be more fun to create sentences rather than answering flashcards. However, electronic flashcards do an excellent job of spaced repetition. It feels very recent that studies about studying have become to enter the mainstream of society. Another shortful is that all of these studies don't combine into a system of studying! I'm not here to promote your website, but I'm waiting for the next window to join. I've been struggling with studying simple because it is too boring, and I hope that moving away from atomizing information and towards discovering relationships will spark the creativity and enjoyment.
I am on the waiting list too. I am not struggling, I am a 98 student and I want to know why I am missing the other 2. I hope to become a 100 student with the Dr’s course.
I felt this also because of time restriction. Yes, anki helped me but words keep on piling up when I missed just a day in reviewing. So what happens is that I just rely solely on anki. Yes, it really takes too much time but I am not actually learning the right way.. I felt like I am trying to learn tons of words which I do not really need or unnecessary. Well, I am not genius so there are a lot of words that I thought I already learned and knew well but once it shows up, still I am forgetting it. Since I am using anki for language learning, I realized it would be much easier to remember the words by watching or reading so I that I'll just use anki less. It just really depends on how you need it and for what, and on what works best for us in learning.
I use Anki to build relationships in learning the Thai language. I never spend more than 30 min. per day with Anki. Also, I only add words and never download someone else's deck. One of the most valuable features of Anki is the browser. So, when I am having trouble remembering some new word I search in the browser to see if there are other words that share the same root, which is frequently the case. Now, when I look over the words that pop up which share the same root, I know that I myself have added each of these words, so I feel a sense of ownership which I would not feel if I searched out a similar list in an online dictionary. In looking over the list of related words I recognize the shared and overlapping meanings. Some words I had not previously recognized as belonging to this group, perhaps because the overlap in meaning may be limited. Nevertheless, what I have in front of me is a semantic net, which is going to be easier to remember than the isolated word that stumped me at the beginning. Memorization is a necessary part of language learning, but the other skills, such as listening comprehension, speaking, and writing are more important.
The more I watch your videos, the better I understand why flashcards do work for me and not for others. My brain works a bit differently to yours, clearly. I do not have difficulty with relational learning. In fact, my brain makes connections surprisingly easily. Although I do use other methods to make connections when the topic is difficult or I'm not fluent with the words being used. My struggle, however, is to remember labels, facts and figures. That means that I may understand something perfectly, but not be able to talk about it, which is extremely frustrating for me. Anki do help with this problem, so I think it comes down to identifying your own needs and using the right method for those needs. But, fundamentally, I do agree that both are important; one is just easier for me than the other, so I don't have to worry about it that much. Thanks for the video!
All depends on what you’re doing and what the objective is. If you’re going on Jeopardy where trivia recall is important then they are a must. I read a Brazilian law student comment regarding having to memorize many legal terms and laws for her exams using flash cards. Blue Angels have their announcers train using flash cards to memorize the whole show including tone and timing. After they passed the requirements, some go out to a desert area and burn their flash cards in a fire pit. They hate the cards that much.😂 For understanding concepts like electronic theory, they are limited. It’s up to each person to take charge of their learning and figure out what works and don’t work, use the feedback and adjust accordingly. That’s the formula for success and it applies here. I see some comments are using this video as an “excuse” to stop using flash cards all together.🙄
The key idea is to reduce the time we need to repeat in the first place, which means we must use a completely different study strategy (relying on relationships).
What does that mean dude. What does relying on relationships mean. Like what if two pieces of information don’t have a single relationship. Also what if the relationship is super weak and forgettable?
@@uncomfortabletruths7990 usually we don't have only 2 info to memorize in the chapter I've been a regular viewer what he's saying is you should read the chapter by finding relevance
You are the first person to touch problem with Anki. Im in trap thr of high volume of flashcards consuming my entire day time.Im at a point of not having time for studying new things
You may not agree, but the relationship priority works for recalling. I have only used it once and I can remember a lot because I can map in my mind; where it roots Is, what it's different from, what other options there are etc...
I am sceptical about the claim that if you learn relationally you will not forget it. Because that learning will still be subject to the laws of memory. If you don't use it you will lose it. And only retrieval strengthens retrieval.
You will know if you have seen his other videos that he advocates the idea "if you use relational learning you will forget less that retrieval dependency decreases". More efficient encoding = less dependency on retrieval. Ex: You might need to crack your head or repeat their names again and again to remember the person you met a week before for the first time because you have not created any bond with them yet while the name of your friends are remembered without conscious effort because of the deep relationship you have with them. So, what he is basically saying is create a strong bond with the person you met a week before the first time so that you can remember their names without repeatedly saying their name again and again.
Surely for language learning it's useful, especially drilling correct gender assignations. You can break up Anki deck into sections or topics. Once you've done that section or chapter or whatever, and you're comfortable with it, move on to the next. So for instance a chapter might have 40 new pieces of vocabulary. Learn those, and move on. No? Just learning how to use flash cards. Yes, if I just lay card upon card, it would be like building a mountain of ridiculousness. Don't need to do chapter one when I'm working on ten. I think this argument against cards might be accurate for science, maths, etc., but not for language.
My question is, how did people even reach the conclusion that flash cards are needed for something like maths? If you understand the topic you actually remember almost everything. The only reason I can think of is practicing recalling all the theorems themselves instead of just being able to recall what they are when they seem them. But that's like what, 10 names per week in one course at most?
It would be very helpful to drop the link to video referring to, in this case “relational priority learning.” (I searched this channel and didn’t find any vid with this phrase in title.) Would be handy for users and potentially increase views. Really like these vids!
I think that even the most basic things that people would put on flashcards, you can probably learn without using any flashcards, by just using higher order learning on those basic things in ways that would not logically make sense, but make sense to your brain, like analogies or looking at how to picture the thing in your head, for example, the phrase, One brasil nut has the daily recommended amount of Selenium, and you don't know what selenium or a brasil nut is, you could draw or imagine a literally nut with a brasil flag or brasil colored nut, running to a person and giving them a little guy, which would be the electrolyte Se (selenium), to eat up. And so with this quick and simple made story, you're more likely to even remember something so simple and stupid easily.
I would push back some that research supports that active recall, testing yourself is by far the most powerful tool to recall large amounts of information. Having a structure to file all the information within your brain is important, but it isn't really a substitute for the mass memorization required for test taking.
@The Medical Enthusiast how’re ever you define the amount, creating a structure or tree does not substitute for memorizing material. If it is material you use daily like a task on a job then you don’t need to formally memorize at all, but if you are in an environment where You learn progressively more material with little interaction, the structure is great but you will have to spend time rehearsing or memorizing.
@The Medical Enthusiast I think the process I am in right now qualifies. I am not a technical person, but recently moved over to info security at my company. I am studying for the Comptia security+ exam. There is a lot of networking concepts that are unpacked, and more than 500 acronyms. There are a handful of concepts and terms that are somewhat familiar that I can link to general knowledge from several years on the business side, but the rest are very foreign nothing to connect to easily. I can make say 35 or 40 spider type diagrams as you have, and that will help organize things, but still feel I need to work through the volumes of underlying material before I start even testing. It is a multiple choice test so hat helps, around 75-90 scenario based questions over 90 minutes.
@@MrZola1234 I don't think you need to have it relate to anything substantial in the real world, as long as you can link it to some sort of neuron or neural link in your brain. For instance the word acronym, you can link to an acrobat that is very nimble explaining a concept to someone. You also might be able to categorize the terms into what function or area of security they fall into. Is it a method? A hardware thing? Software thing? Maybe its a specific type of data that the acronym is referring to? Also I think that the reason that it is easy to memorize material you use daily, is because you relate it to tasks you need to carry out. Also if your brain needs to use the information on a daily basis and can't get by without it, its more likely to be remembered.
@@danielvanstaden8247 I don’t necessarily disagree with what you said, but what you are describing is more intentional and time intensive than just creating a spider type diagram or tree of concepts as the original poster describes as all that is needed. Your approach or techniques don’t change the fact you have to do some intentional work on commuting the material to memory.
Great video! I'm only now getting introduced to the idea of relationship-based learning. But given that premise, what would your ideal study routine look like?
Great video :) It makes a lot of sense, i'm trying to expand my learning strategies especially relational learning. You mentioned having another video on it but I can't see it on the channel yet. I hope it'll be out soon! Because the concept is fairly new to me, the only thing I can imagine though is mindmaps, is that accurate?
I dont like the time i waste on particular cards - so in the end instead of studying 50 other cards im stuck on 5 or more cards that always repeat that will do less for my grade than the other one - so those stumble cards that dont seem to get in, need a solution. And i think i need to do the cards after priming myself with a brain dump or mindmap - i have the feeling after a card day i overwrites my structural ordered knowledge and just opens new drawers
I made 100s of flashcards for each unit in my subjects (8). It soon started to build up over the amount of units we had. However, I realised it was overwhelming, making too much to review, and stray away from my note taking processes. And I enjoy a different way to learn - researching, gathering, organising and questioning for information, enhanced my understanding. Now, I've adjusted my approach making less flashcards so about 1k to cover all my subjects, and reducing amount of info on each cards.
I don't think I ever tried to memorize anything since my first year of computer science and to be honest it didn't feel very helpful because everything was online exams
Would'nt using flash cards mitigte the need to study for finals? If your constantly going over the material should'nt a person be able to idebtify what they know quick enough to go theough one card in 5 seconds and not have to deal with that until later. Also their is a feature in anki where you can break things into topics so lets say you have a test on topic be of unit 1 you can just go through the topic a notes. And on the weekeds a person can go theough all their flash cards so they gain a commulative understanding of the material. I can see this working effecyivly at the high school level. Don't know about higher levels xD
Ohhh I get what relational priority learning is now! It's how I studied for quantitative subjects: why memorise formulae, when I can understand its principles and derive them when needed?
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I appreciate your videos, but you talk surface level and reiterate the same points over and over again without actually going into any detail. I know you have a course but providing some actual examples would make these videos a lot more useful.
Same
True..
Oh man, I wish I'd come across this video two months ago. I spend two months studying for a cert using info videos and flash cards. The first couple of weeks were fine but each day I was adding flash cards to the point where now I'm at 1500+ total flashcards and I'm so done. It's just too much. I'm forgetting everything I've learnt. This is the first week that I've taken without any studying because I'm just tired. Time to do a revamp of my study situation
Finally! Somebody is seeing things like I see it! To me fc are a waste of so much time! First, those pieces of cardboard are expensive in my country. Second, writing the cards are time consuming. Third, you can do exactly the same and getting the same results just by creating the cards on regular old paper, same shape and all. By the end of the course you will have so much junk in your possession that you’d need storage. And on top of it, there is a chance you will not use those cards ever again in your life bc all is available in google.
Great video! I've had similar thoughts before watching. If we take memory palaces as an example, one of the reasons that the information sticks, is not just visualization, but because we create a relationship to a existing memory (ie the loci). Flash cards, when performed with a question/answer style can serve to atomize information. The best flash cards are one in which you're tested through relationships ie a diagram of the skull and naming the parts. You can see the relationship to various parts of the skull through the diagram, and you get to test yourself. However, creating flashcards can take time and overwhelm yourself with the amount of content, however, creating relationship based flashcards my reduce the overwhelm but increase the time to create. Also, being asked the same question all the time can get really boring! If we take languages as another example, it would be more fun to create sentences rather than answering flashcards. However, electronic flashcards do an excellent job of spaced repetition. It feels very recent that studies about studying have become to enter the mainstream of society.
Another shortful is that all of these studies don't combine into a system of studying! I'm not here to promote your website, but I'm waiting for the next window to join. I've been struggling with studying simple because it is too boring, and I hope that moving away from atomizing information and towards discovering relationships will spark the creativity and enjoyment.
You can also make differentiate between flashcards instead of separate concept flashcard
I am on the waiting list too. I am not struggling, I am a 98 student and I want to know why I am missing the other 2. I hope to become a 100 student with the Dr’s course.
I felt this also because of time restriction. Yes, anki helped me but words keep on piling up when I missed just a day in reviewing. So what happens is that I just rely solely on anki. Yes, it really takes too much time but I am not actually learning the right way.. I felt like I am trying to learn tons of words which I do not really need or unnecessary. Well, I am not genius so there are a lot of words that I thought I already learned and knew well but once it shows up, still I am forgetting it.
Since I am using anki for language learning, I realized it would be much easier to remember the words by watching or reading so I that I'll just use anki less. It just really depends on how you need it and for what, and on what works best for us in learning.
The video starts at 3:38
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wait what about if I don´t know what a flashcard is?
I use Anki to build relationships in learning the Thai language. I never spend more than 30 min. per day with Anki. Also, I only add words and never download someone else's deck. One of the most valuable features of Anki is the browser. So, when I am having trouble remembering some new word I search in the browser to see if there are other words that share the same root, which is frequently the case. Now, when I look over the words that pop up which share the same root, I know that I myself have added each of these words, so I feel a sense of ownership which I would not feel if I searched out a similar list in an online dictionary. In looking over the list of related words I recognize the shared and overlapping meanings. Some words I had not previously recognized as belonging to this group, perhaps because the overlap in meaning may be limited. Nevertheless, what I have in front of me is a semantic net, which is going to be easier to remember than the isolated word that stumped me at the beginning.
Memorization is a necessary part of language learning, but the other skills, such as listening comprehension, speaking, and writing are more important.
The more I watch your videos, the better I understand why flashcards do work for me and not for others. My brain works a bit differently to yours, clearly. I do not have difficulty with relational learning. In fact, my brain makes connections surprisingly easily. Although I do use other methods to make connections when the topic is difficult or I'm not fluent with the words being used. My struggle, however, is to remember labels, facts and figures. That means that I may understand something perfectly, but not be able to talk about it, which is extremely frustrating for me. Anki do help with this problem, so I think it comes down to identifying your own needs and using the right method for those needs. But, fundamentally, I do agree that both are important; one is just easier for me than the other, so I don't have to worry about it that much. Thanks for the video!
All depends on what you’re doing and what the objective is.
If you’re going on Jeopardy where trivia recall is important then they are a must.
I read a Brazilian law student comment regarding having to memorize many legal terms and laws for her exams using flash cards.
Blue Angels have their announcers train using flash cards to memorize the whole show including tone and timing.
After they passed the requirements, some go out to a desert area and burn their flash cards in a fire pit. They hate the cards that much.😂
For understanding concepts like electronic theory, they are limited.
It’s up to each person to take charge of their learning and figure out what works and don’t work, use the feedback and adjust accordingly.
That’s the formula for success and it applies here.
I see some comments are using this video as an “excuse” to stop using flash cards all together.🙄
The key idea is to reduce the time we need to repeat in the first place, which means we must use a completely different study strategy (relying on relationships).
What does that mean dude. What does relying on relationships mean. Like what if two pieces of information don’t have a single relationship. Also what if the relationship is super weak and forgettable?
@@uncomfortabletruths7990 usually we don't have only 2 info to memorize in the chapter I've been a regular viewer what he's saying is you should read the chapter by finding relevance
@@uncomfortabletruths7990 hope it helped took so long
You are the first person to touch problem with Anki. Im in trap thr of high volume of flashcards consuming my entire day time.Im at a point of not having time for studying new things
You may not agree, but the relationship priority works for recalling. I have only used it once and I can remember a lot because I can map in my mind; where it roots Is, what it's different from, what other options there are etc...
I am sceptical about the claim that if you learn relationally you will not forget it. Because that learning will still be subject to the laws of memory. If you don't use it you will lose it. And only retrieval strengthens retrieval.
Exactly. This dude is an anti-flaschard guru.
You will know if you have seen his other videos that he advocates the idea "if you use relational learning you will forget less that retrieval dependency decreases". More efficient encoding = less dependency on retrieval.
Ex: You might need to crack your head or repeat their names again and again to remember the person you met a week before for the first time because you have not created any bond with them yet while the name of your friends are remembered without conscious effort because of the deep relationship you have with them. So, what he is basically saying is create a strong bond with the person you met a week before the first time so that you can remember their names without repeatedly saying their name again and again.
Surely for language learning it's useful, especially drilling correct gender assignations. You can break up Anki deck into sections or topics. Once you've done that section or chapter or whatever, and you're comfortable with it, move on to the next. So for instance a chapter might have 40 new pieces of vocabulary. Learn those, and move on. No? Just learning how to use flash cards. Yes, if I just lay card upon card, it would be like building a mountain of ridiculousness. Don't need to do chapter one when I'm working on ten. I think this argument against cards might be accurate for science, maths, etc., but not for language.
My question is, how did people even reach the conclusion that flash cards are needed for something like maths? If you understand the topic you actually remember almost everything.
The only reason I can think of is practicing recalling all the theorems themselves instead of just being able to recall what they are when they seem them. But that's like what, 10 names per week in one course at most?
It would be very helpful to drop the link to video referring to, in this case “relational priority learning.” (I searched this channel and didn’t find any vid with this phrase in title.) Would be handy for users and potentially increase views.
Really like these vids!
it is usually called chunking in meta learning circles. Hope this helps
@@khushichadha512 u mean this relation priority learning us just chunking??
I think that even the most basic things that people would put on flashcards, you can probably learn without using any flashcards, by just using higher order learning on those basic things in ways that would not logically make sense, but make sense to your brain, like analogies or looking at how to picture the thing in your head, for example, the phrase, One brasil nut has the daily recommended amount of Selenium, and you don't know what selenium or a brasil nut is, you could draw or imagine a literally nut with a brasil flag or brasil colored nut, running to a person and giving them a little guy, which would be the electrolyte Se (selenium), to eat up. And so with this quick and simple made story, you're more likely to even remember something so simple and stupid easily.
Can’t find the relational video you’re referencing thanks
Same... :(
I would push back some that research supports that active recall, testing yourself is by far the most powerful tool to recall large amounts of information. Having a structure to file all the information within your brain is important, but it isn't really a substitute for the mass memorization required for test taking.
@The Medical Enthusiast how’re ever you define the amount, creating a structure or tree does not substitute for memorizing material. If it is material you use daily like a task on a job then you don’t need to formally memorize at all, but if you are in an environment where You learn progressively more material with little interaction, the structure is great but you will have to spend time rehearsing or memorizing.
@The Medical Enthusiast I think the process I am in right now qualifies. I am not a technical person, but recently moved over to info security at my company. I am studying for the Comptia security+ exam. There is a lot of networking concepts that are unpacked, and more than 500 acronyms. There are a handful of concepts and terms that are somewhat familiar that I can link to general knowledge from several years on the business side, but the rest are very foreign nothing to connect to easily. I can make say 35 or 40 spider type diagrams as you have, and that will help organize things, but still feel I need to work through the volumes of underlying material before I start even testing. It is a multiple choice test so hat helps, around 75-90 scenario based questions over 90 minutes.
@@MrZola1234 I don't think you need to have it relate to anything substantial in the real world, as long as you can link it to some sort of neuron or neural link in your brain.
For instance the word acronym, you can link to an acrobat that is very nimble explaining a concept to someone. You also might be able to categorize the terms into what function or area of security they fall into. Is it a method? A hardware thing? Software thing? Maybe its a specific type of data that the acronym is referring to? Also I think that the reason that it is easy to memorize material you use daily, is because you relate it to tasks you need to carry out. Also if your brain needs to use the information on a daily basis and can't get by without it, its more likely to be remembered.
@@danielvanstaden8247 I don’t necessarily disagree with what you said, but what you are describing is more intentional and time intensive than just creating a spider type diagram or tree of concepts as the original poster describes as all that is needed. Your approach or techniques don’t change the fact you have to do some intentional work on commuting the material to memory.
If you’ve tried everything, what makes you think we shouldn’t do that first before concluding what is or what is not effect?
I completely agree with u. My A5 flashcards are a nightmare. However how else can one learn new vocabulary in language learning???
Great video! I'm only now getting introduced to the idea of relationship-based learning. But given that premise, what would your ideal study routine look like?
How to make relationship based flashcards? Pls help 🙏🙏
Which Anki App do you use since there are a few available?
There is only one Anki app available on their website. They also provide apps for Android and iOS .
That walk with the knees metaphor 😂🤣🤣
Great vid! 😄
How do I know when to revise again ? Using relativity
Great video :) It makes a lot of sense, i'm trying to expand my learning strategies especially relational learning. You mentioned having another video on it but I can't see it on the channel yet. I hope it'll be out soon! Because the concept is fairly new to me, the only thing I can imagine though is mindmaps, is that accurate?
It's one part of the bigger picture yep!
I dont like the time i waste on particular cards - so in the end instead of studying 50 other cards im stuck on 5 or more cards that always repeat that will do less for my grade than the other one - so those stumble cards that dont seem to get in, need a solution.
And i think i need to do the cards after priming myself with a brain dump or mindmap - i have the feeling after a card day i overwrites my structural ordered knowledge and just opens new drawers
I started watching your videos because I had 200 undone anki flashcards. I thought: "this can't be it, something must be wrong". I am much obliged.
Have you read Andy Matuschak's essays on writing prompts and retrieval practice?
I made 100s of flashcards for each unit in my subjects (8). It soon started to build up over the amount of units we had.
However, I realised it was overwhelming, making too much to review, and stray away from my note taking processes. And I enjoy a different way to learn - researching, gathering, organising and questioning for information, enhanced my understanding.
Now, I've adjusted my approach making less flashcards so about 1k to cover all my subjects, and reducing amount of info on each cards.
Great video how come you doing a new channel?
Can you please put links to the videos that you reference :) ?
I don't think I ever tried to memorize anything since my first year of computer science and to be honest it didn't feel very helpful because everything was online exams
3:19 , I completely agree
great vid
You used logo of Anki - Robotics Company, not Anki - flashcard program
great video! :>
OMG, its becaming impossible avoid to buy your course.
RUN my wallet, RUN!
Thanks a lot doctor
Some people can use anki and some people not. Everybody should give it a try and see how useful is for them
great vido 😁😁
more math/physics content maybe?
But exams test on what you can recall, not on what you can not remember enough to explain. So flashcards are essential sadly
Would'nt using flash cards mitigte the need to study for finals? If your constantly going over the material should'nt a person be able to idebtify what they know quick enough to go theough one card in 5 seconds and not have to deal with that until later. Also their is a feature in anki where you can break things into topics so lets say you have a test on topic be of unit 1 you can just go through the topic a notes. And on the weekeds a person can go theough all their flash cards so they gain a commulative understanding of the material. I can see this working effecyivly at the high school level. Don't know about higher levels xD
I just started anki 👀
Ohhh I get what relational priority learning is now!
It's how I studied for quantitative subjects: why memorise formulae, when I can understand its principles and derive them when needed?
Anki still has a place in a highly effective study system! But... just not how most people use them 😆
Awesome!!! It's extremely important in learning and subject, even biology where most people assume it's just 'memorisation' wrongly
@@icanstudystudent the. What else ??
i do over 1k everyday 😅😅...
cant listen to that anymua
I am sorry, this is not a good guy. 😢