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This all makes sense why I did so well at school, I used to make my own exams as an exam preparation. And so, I would kinda teach myself, reconstruct, interleave (b/c I made up a lot of different exam questions), and then test myself by taking my own written exam haha !
I do the same thing with language, I'm learning Mandarin and it's a very context-driven language, and so, I keep adding on to what I call it's "language network" as I'm trying to understand how the language inner-concepts are interlinked.
Summary: - Spaced Repetition and Active Recall is a common technique but it is misleading because it doesn't tell us how to properly store information in our brain effectively in the first place, so that we won't easily forget. - Active recall focuses mostly on recalling single pieces of information, which doesn't help us solve integrated problems. - Viewing information in terms of relationships instead of isolation increases our retention rate, so we don't need to revise the content multiple times, which saves us a lot of time. - In conclusion, whenever we store or retrieve information in or from our brain, we should not do it in isolation, but in terms of groupings and relationships.
Plz elaborate and give practical examples.which no body in the whole multiverse has ever done not even a bit not even a viewer or a ytber. U will surely go to heaven if u say it
Best way for people to do both: lower-higher techniques The trick is that they have to have a very focused goal-setting and know their limitations. Noone can know everything and one with lower techniques will have higher level of thinking by default if he had a very well written plan to where he want to go!
Which is the video about relational priority learning ? the search tool doesn't find a video with this in the title, neither on Justin Sung channel or iCanStudy channel.
Your counter intuitive ideas really helped me...I watched only your you tube videos . I came to know that you have also paid courses but I can't afford that. Please upload more videos on RUclips and can you write a book ?
Expanding gap repetition is better than equally fixed gap repetition The technque u do at each repetition matters... Like rereading= low level of learning....evwn if u r doing a lot in ur hands while re writting/lot of eyes u r using bcz it is not using cognitive load Better version is using active recall But there are even better teachniques eg Constructivist mehord of learning and revising/ teaching in a effective way of whole part whole/interleaving Revision should be done with different teachniques each time to let it be challenging and hance have more cognitive load ARSR problem is it beacomes unsustainable if u r constant forgetting at a high rate The abay hiuse forgetting curve is fir the information that is purely memorized , it doesn't consider information that is learn with relationship priority learning So better us to bypass the need of spaced repetition at first...by relational priority learning
what is if there is list of things in learning something , its really difficult to recall all even though we understood it , is memorisation helpful here ?
Would a suggestion for constructivist active recall be making a reminder through expanding gap spaced repetition to complete one past paper/practice question on x topic?
Hi Nerdiella! Usually constructivist active recall requires you to construct your own problems as oppposed to using a pre-constructed past paper/practice questions. Also, I'm not sure if you're saying you want to repeat the same question through spaced repetition or not? If so, I probably wouldn't say that's too useful since you'd learn how to get really good at that specific question and not as prepared for variations of it or many other questions in general. Usually you would spaced the repetition of revising content within your revision.
and you can do semi-passive reading 4.27 which is you're trying to pay attention 4.29 but you're still not trying to use the 4.31 information in a particular way 4.33 which means that even though you're 4.34 paying attention to what you're reading 4.36 because in your brain you're not taking 4.38 that information and arranging and 4.40 organizing it 4.40 in an efficient way it means that you're 4.43 still not getting as much learning out 4.45 of it
If you miss reviewing a card in Anki it accounts for that gap that the card had. For example if you were supposed to study it the next day but instead you studied it five days later because you couldn't get through all your cards or whatever. The program accounts for that. If you get the card right it will push it even farther because obviously you remembered the card after an extended time. And vice versa if you missed it. It's okay to miss reviews with Anki.
it may be okay, but if you miss one day of reviews, the following day you'll probably have 2x more cards to review. if it has been a month at least and you learn about 20 cards a day, you'll have to review around 400 cards which is no fun at all
@@heisenberg6874 discipline is the answer. Go to the gym you start building that muscle endurance. Miss a day its fine as long as its an exception. Miss a month bear the consequences of losing your muscle progress. You must start once again from ground zero however this time with muscle memory.
After a few days, I still remember 417835. Here's how I did it. I liked the idea on building relationships between things to encourage remembering things, and so what I discovered was this pattern: Start with 4. Then square it, then add one. You get 17. Then for 437, double it then add one, and you get 835. Squaring and doubling are related things, and adding one is the same thing. Not long after that, I realized I can memorize a list of ideas in the following way. Start with idea 1. Then, think of an example for idea one, that also is a good/strong/clear enough example for idea 2. I like using an example as it can be visual, which can make it easier to remember. Visuals also tend to have many parts, which makes it possible to contain 2 ideas. One can also try to make the example something insightful or that one wants to memorize, such as it being a useful way to apply idea 1 in life fruitfully, which can be a practical problem for memorizing a list, and answering this problem provides motivation to want to memorize and use the idea(s). It can also be a throwaway ideas as well. One idea here could be that one uses the example as a link between 2 ideas, where as one recalls it enough, one can find oneself able to skip the examples. This is like how in math in solving a problem, as one gets more practiced in a type of problem, one can find oneself skipping steps. The examples can be stepping stones or crutches that one uses until one doesn't need them. For the list, what you do is in between every 2 ideas you have an example that strongly intersects with both ideas, in order to recall it more easily. This means an example between idea 2 and idea 3, between 3 and 4, and so on.
Yeah it's probably even more effective in your case because when you're saying something orally it's easier to get your point across if you actually understood and learned it instead of solely memorized
but how do you use the method descibred to remember a long string of digits as suggested at the start of the video i.e. how can you related a random string of numbers to your current knowledge framework?
Extremely long sequence of digits is usually done by dividing it into groups of three digits, with every possible combination (there are 1000) assigned a word. Then you'd craft a story with those words. I guess a beginner could start with 2 digit groups (only 100 possibilities), but I've never wanted to be a memory champion, a few digits of pi are enough, it's usually other things limiting precision of the result, and luckily pi won't change.
I happen to have a superhuman memory. As a kid, I could easily recall sequences of up to 12 digits on first listening (which I was tested on). As a 19 year old, I can memorise 20 random digits on first listening.
@@phanikatam4048 Yes, for me, I remember their shape and hear the numbers sounded out as opposed to each individual number. Memory is association, the more information you can associate together, the better your memory will be.
@@laeioun i am master in that about memorising things but lack of discipline, laziness. any way learning is best part than memory .if we memorise long books its difficult handle such volume in brain , if we learn it we easily recall it for long term , meditation helps a lot in learning something.thank you for the reply
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This all makes sense why I did so well at school, I used to make my own exams as an exam preparation. And so, I would kinda teach myself, reconstruct, interleave (b/c I made up a lot of different exam questions), and then test myself by taking my own written exam haha !
I do the same thing with language, I'm learning Mandarin and it's a very context-driven language, and so, I keep adding on to what I call it's "language network" as I'm trying to understand how the language inner-concepts are interlinked.
@@jessyca9833 thanks!
You are the best study influencer ever. I reference your channel to everyone when I talk about studying.
Would you consider a blog to have this in written form? Superlative!
Iam glad that i found this in my second semester. This makes so much sense!
I am glad I found it in my second year. This is life skill that's gonna help me so much even after university.
Summary:
- Spaced Repetition and Active Recall is a common technique but it is misleading because it doesn't tell us how to properly store information in our brain effectively in the first place, so that we won't easily forget.
- Active recall focuses mostly on recalling single pieces of information, which doesn't help us solve integrated problems.
- Viewing information in terms of relationships instead of isolation increases our retention rate, so we don't need to revise the content multiple times, which saves us a lot of time.
- In conclusion, whenever we store or retrieve information in or from our brain, we should not do it in isolation, but in terms of groupings and relationships.
Plz elaborate and give practical examples.which no body in the whole multiverse has ever done not even a bit not even a viewer or a ytber. U will surely go to heaven if u say it
Best way for people to do both: lower-higher techniques
The trick is that they have to have a very focused goal-setting and know their limitations.
Noone can know everything and one with lower techniques will have higher level of thinking by default if he had a very well written plan to where he want to go!
Thank you, Justin! I've watched a lot of your videos and been applying them to my study. The result is impressive!
this channel is gold
This is excellent, Justin! Thank you so much! I can see many ways to apply this to language learning without getting burned out on flashcards.
I just realized that I do some of these things unintentionally because it makes me feel better prepared for an exam
Which is the video about relational priority learning ? the search tool doesn't find a video with this in the title, neither on Justin Sung channel or iCanStudy channel.
@iCanStudy Do you recommend only rely on flashcards for learning vocabulary?
Thank you so much for posting such valuable content
Very helpful and practical. Keep it up..
giving links to videos you mention in the description would be nice.
Your counter intuitive ideas really helped me...I watched only your you tube videos . I came to know that you have also paid courses but I can't afford that. Please upload more videos on RUclips and can you write a book ?
Expanding gap repetition is better than equally fixed gap repetition
The technque u do at each repetition matters...
Like rereading= low level of learning....evwn if u r doing a lot in ur hands while re writting/lot of eyes u r using bcz it is not using cognitive load
Better version is using active recall
But there are even better teachniques eg Constructivist mehord of learning and revising/ teaching in a effective way of whole part whole/interleaving
Revision should be done with different teachniques each time to let it be challenging and hance have more cognitive load
ARSR problem is it beacomes unsustainable if u r constant forgetting at a high rate
The abay hiuse forgetting curve is fir the information that is purely memorized , it doesn't consider information that is learn with relationship priority learning
So better us to bypass the need of spaced repetition at first...by relational priority learning
what is if there is list of things in learning something , its really difficult to recall all even though we understood it , is memorisation helpful here ?
Thanks
OMW, another doc teaching study techniques...
How would this work for language learning?
Great video
Nice vid thanks
So could you give an example of how a good Anki card would look?
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Would a suggestion for constructivist active recall be making a reminder through expanding gap spaced repetition to complete one past paper/practice question on x topic?
Hi Nerdiella! Usually constructivist active recall requires you to construct your own problems as oppposed to using a pre-constructed past paper/practice questions. Also, I'm not sure if you're saying you want to repeat the same question through spaced repetition or not? If so, I probably wouldn't say that's too useful since you'd learn how to get really good at that specific question and not as prepared for variations of it or many other questions in general. Usually you would spaced the repetition of revising content within your revision.
8.15 interleaving
5.12 active recall
6.26 active reconstruction
and you can do semi-passive reading
4.27
which is you're trying to pay attention
4.29
but you're still not trying to use the
4.31
information in a particular way
4.33
which means that even though you're
4.34
paying attention to what you're reading
4.36
because in your brain you're not taking
4.38
that information and arranging and
4.40
organizing it
4.40
in an efficient way it means that you're
4.43
still not getting as much learning out
4.45
of it
10.20 bypass
If you miss reviewing a card in Anki it accounts for that gap that the card had. For example if you were supposed to study it the next day but instead you studied it five days later because you couldn't get through all your cards or whatever. The program accounts for that. If you get the card right it will push it even farther because obviously you remembered the card after an extended time. And vice versa if you missed it. It's okay to miss reviews with Anki.
it may be okay, but if you miss one day of reviews, the following day you'll probably have 2x more cards to review. if it has been a month at least and you learn about 20 cards a day, you'll have to review around 400 cards which is no fun at all
@@heisenberg6874 discipline is the answer. Go to the gym you start building that muscle endurance. Miss a day its fine as long as its an exception. Miss a month bear the consequences of losing your muscle progress. You must start once again from ground zero however this time with muscle memory.
After a few days, I still remember 417835. Here's how I did it.
I liked the idea on building relationships between things to encourage remembering things, and so what I discovered was this pattern:
Start with 4. Then square it, then add one. You get 17. Then for 437, double it then add one, and you get 835. Squaring and doubling are related things, and adding one is the same thing.
Not long after that, I realized I can memorize a list of ideas in the following way. Start with idea 1. Then, think of an example for idea one, that also is a good/strong/clear enough example for idea 2. I like using an example as it can be visual, which can make it easier to remember. Visuals also tend to have many parts, which makes it possible to contain 2 ideas.
One can also try to make the example something insightful or that one wants to memorize, such as it being a useful way to apply idea 1 in life fruitfully, which can be a practical problem for memorizing a list, and answering this problem provides motivation to want to memorize and use the idea(s). It can also be a throwaway ideas as well.
One idea here could be that one uses the example as a link between 2 ideas, where as one recalls it enough, one can find oneself able to skip the examples. This is like how in math in solving a problem, as one gets more practiced in a type of problem, one can find oneself skipping steps. The examples can be stepping stones or crutches that one uses until one doesn't need them.
For the list, what you do is in between every 2 ideas you have an example that strongly intersects with both ideas, in order to recall it more easily. This means an example between idea 2 and idea 3, between 3 and 4, and so on.
Is this okay for oral exams? In my country we don’t have tests, just long oral exams... and I’m studying medicine, so... yeah
Excellent video tho 👍🏼
Yeah it's probably even more effective in your case because when you're saying something orally it's easier to get your point across if you actually understood and learned it instead of solely memorized
but how do you use the method descibred to remember a long string of digits as suggested at the start of the video i.e. how can you related a random string of numbers to your current knowledge framework?
Some information may actually have no relation other stuff so you need to use spaced repetition for those.
Extremely long sequence of digits is usually done by dividing it into groups of three digits, with every possible combination (there are 1000) assigned a word. Then you'd craft a story with those words.
I guess a beginner could start with 2 digit groups (only 100 possibilities), but I've never wanted to be a memory champion, a few digits of pi are enough, it's usually other things limiting precision of the result, and luckily pi won't change.
For example, pi: 3.142 would be 3.a.vase.is... etc... assign a word for each digit with the same number of letters.
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I happen to have a superhuman memory. As a kid, I could easily recall sequences of up to 12 digits on first listening (which I was tested on). As a 19 year old, I can memorise 20 random digits on first listening.
How? Damn. I hope you never get traumatised. Coz boy u aint never gonna forget it
@@ShivamSharma-5622 Too late.
How man , you convert numbers in to something which is easy to remember or just a plain numbers ,??
I too want that type memory .
@@phanikatam4048 Yes, for me, I remember their shape and hear the numbers sounded out as opposed to each individual number. Memory is association, the more information you can associate together, the better your memory will be.
@@laeioun i am master in that about memorising things but lack of discipline, laziness. any way learning is best part than memory .if we memorise long books its difficult handle such volume in brain , if we learn it we easily recall it for long term ,
meditation helps a lot in learning something.thank you for the reply
relational priority learning link?
Could you start a blog pls 🙏🙏
yo justin
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Try learning kanji without srs.
You mean like japanese kids?
@@shagb2751 You got 10 years to spare?
@Trevor F I'm half way through the joyo-kanji, I'm well aware.
@Trevor F Wanikani and reading.
I agree😆. It took me 4 months to go through the "remembering the kanji" book while reviewing flash cards. I still review them everyday...
I found this to late 😢
Cheating
After hearning this, I think that Anki Flashcards is the lazy way of doing Spaced Repetition & Active Recall
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