"The I in Team" (4x13) | *Buffy the Vampire Slayer* Reaction
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- I hope you enjoy my reaction to Season Four, Episode Thirteen of 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer': "The I in Team".
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Forest doesn't dislike Buffy being 2nd in command because he doesn't appreciate how strong she is. It's because he doesn't like her stealing his man.
It's also strongly hinted that he is a misogynist.
Forriley is the best ship in the series.
@@spamfilter32 He didn't mind working under Professor Walsh...or is that military protocol?
Forrest is absolutely a misogynist. He's not possessive of Riley because he's gay, but because "bros before hos".
@Madbandit77 military protical. Also, Walsh fits the type he has set. Buffy interrupts the pattern of his normalcy because she asks questions, and she gets in the way of "boy time".
Been a Buffy-fan for about 20 years and only just realised that the 314 reveal happened in season 4 ep 13, which is just 314 backwards :')
Buffy's speech was total badassery. "If you think that was enough to kill me, you really don't know what a Slayer is. But you're going to find out."
too bad adam made a liar out of buffy. i wonder how the season could have gone differently if walsh didn't die so suddenly.
@@sirmoonslosthismind if only the actor hadn't decided to abandon the show...
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careful with that line of thought. after all, it's undisputed that _buffy_ ended because sarah michelle gellar decided to abandon the show. and there are actually mixed reports on whether lindsay crouse (maggie walsh) really did quit or if someone decided they had a problem with her and she was written out.
@sirmoonslosthismind no, the show ended because it had run its course. Same with the other show. Joss had his timeline and ended it deliberately. Are you trying to say you think SMG had a problem with the actress who played Maggie Walsh?
I love that line!
When Buffy gives her little speech about finding out what a slayer is just epic. one of the best mic drop moments of the entire series.
"Slayer. The. Look it up."
Buffy on the monitors behind Walsh is such a boss moment. Also, I know it's silly but the ionised air joke makes me laugh every time. And the most important thing...Karma is such a gorgeous girl.
Walsh's look as she watches Riley with Buffy reflects the pure disapproval of a mother who finds her child in love with an "undesirable" element.
I saw it a bit more of being replaced in the order of importance in his life.
@@Logan_Baron This. It's closer to jealousy than anything else.
It's so fun listening to all the reactor's incorrect theories
She was spot on though about turning people into Demons.
It'd be more fun if she didn't pause every 5 seconds to update her theory.
@@jaypee9575 I disagree. It's way better than what other people do, updating their theories without stopping, which causes them to miss important parts.
"A lot of things are moving really fast in this episode"
Oh poor Cass. Poor naive Cass. We weren't even halfway through the fast-moving.
There are no bad seasons of Buffy. Even season one with its campiness is so good and special. Season 4 isnt specifically higher in fans ranking just because it is placed between the old fan fav iconic first 3 seasons and the last more mature and deeper seasons. So this one just gets stuck somewhere in between and it is all over the place with the season arc. But oh boy, the scandalone episodes this season are GOLDEN
Agreed! S3 was pretty great, and S5 is a favorite. S4 was kind of messy, but also some great episodes. And I will always love S1. I just love this show so much.
the fact that two intended season big bads quit during the season also didn't help it.
Season 4 is one of my favorites. 2, 4, and 5.
I would argue that the individual episode quality of season 4 is very high. What people don’t generally like is the season arc, which is something you will have to assess for yourself as you experience it.
The professor has a god complex so she is calling her creation Adam because she is playing god making the perfect military weapon. Dr Frankenstein was on a mission to create the perfect man also had a god complex and also called his creation Adam
People who are lukewarm about season 4 tend to think the overall season arc is not what it could be. People who love season 4 tend to think it has some of the best standalone episodes in the entire series. I’m sure you’ll make your own judgments, regardless. Great reaction!
I agree with both of those statements. Also I think for a lot of Buffy fans it's not so much they dislike it but that they think other seasons are better. For me it's in the middle, I like it more than, 1,6, and seven. I like it less than 2,3, and five.
These 2 comments are some of the reasons that BTVS is so great. I think Season 6 is outstanding and is the conclusion of Season 5. What a great show that every season but #1 has such passion and champions.
I agree with both statements but still don’t think it’s one of the few best seasons.
Agreed that these 2 statements seem to generally be true for fans. As for me, as someone who has been watching this show since season 2 aired live? My opinion has changed a lot over time. I think I have so much time with this, and have sat with it all through so much personal growth (both emotionally and mentally) as well as experience over time that I am really able to appreciate the things I love about it and just let go of the things I don’t like or even choices I hate in the writing. I’ve gotten to such a zen place with this show over the years, lol! But I do think there are legit complaints as well as some amazing stuff in this season.
@@carniliaVery true. A 16 year old definitely sees this how differently at 41. A testament to the writing. Differing ages , gender, and life experiences can all watch the same episode and each get a different perspective. That is great storytelling.
I love your psychoanalysis of the characters, it's always so thoughtful.
I've watched the show so many times and never realised in that moment with Giles/Spike that Giles might be trying to guide Spike. He clearly misses that element from his relationship with Buffy in season 4 and it makes so much sense that he's looking for that in other relationships. Great reaction, as always!
"I love your psychoanalysis of the characters, it's always so thoughtful."
I second that.
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I also never realized until cass said it: the ending on just 'Mommy' and said dead mommy..............
I never noticed her say soon they'll be under our control as instead of un able to harm, HOWEVER, in my defense I only rewatched it a few hundred times
Right there with ya (...proudly polishing my dunce cap)
@dayceem what do you mean....clearly she knows things because () ..I said (), well apparently things we can't speak of.....but I like you
Your impersonation of Walsh’s blank stare - the way you edited to a straight face made me spit out my Cinnamon Toast Crunch lol
Thanks for another great reaction ❤
S4 is my favourite season. The meta narrative of all the characters trying to find themselves after high school while the show literally tries to find itself after the high school setting is very well done, imo. Lesser shows would have crumbled & died. Remember, this show was conceived on the premise that "high school is hell". It's impressive that they managed to move on so well.
I can tell how committed Cass is to this by how much she curses! 🙉
The way Karma was looking at you at the end 🥰
You made some really interesting insights in this episode- I have never thought about how Giles may be wanting to guide spike because he is feeling lost himself and missing teaching and training the gang!!! It’s funny to see the dynamic between him and spike particularly when spike had been living in his house- interesting to see where it may lead or not lead :)
Also the other thing you articulated really well was the discussion of control particularly as it pertains to the initiative not only controlling demons but controlling their employees too!
"they're going to mind-control Buffy" lmao
Season 4 is my favourite. Not because of the main commando storyline, but everything else that happens with the Scoobies (that includes Spike in this case) and their lives is chef's kiss. And the college setting. Best of all the seasons.
I think "mother" is code.
The post credit scene is basically a camp monter walking and sayng grr arg. Its very funny. Great vid :)
"Adam" is a reference to "Frankenstein" , or to the Biblical Adam ( In Frankenstein , it is also a reference to the Biblical Adam , so same thing really )
Hm, I wonder what a military organization might want to do with lots of super-powered creatures under their control...
Another wonderful reaction Your enthusiasm and energy is just great. You ‘re fun to rewatch Buffy with. You will receive all sorts of opinions of this season and the final 3. That’s one of the points. They are no longer in high school and all are facing life. It would be great going to class, trading barbs with Cordy, and fighting with good versus evil. Life does not present easy answers or questions. Your reactions are entertaining but please remember that the show at its core is the journey and attempt of Buffy to become a strong, independent, confident woman that has the capacity to give love , understand true forgiveness, and learn to love herself. That is the real struggle and keep that in mind when thinking about the story afterwards.
I really enjoy how you edit these things to show that you're missing major hints when you know by the time of editing exactly what hints you were missing, and of what. That's as specific as I'm willing to get with the comments.
The music during the Polgara fight/sex scene was fantastic. Also, a call back to Faith "Fighting makes me hungry and horny." comment. Glad you caught that. When Faith first said that, Buffy didn't exactly agree, but she did a sort of look down when she denied the latter part. It totally does, but she was repressing that part of Slayerness at that time.
Buffy does that all the time, there is in S2 when she claims to never having played doctor (and Cordy says "oh right.."), then in S3 there are two instances, once with Ford where she claims that she listened to "when I touch myself" when moping over Ford but didn't know what the lyrics was about, then Faith with hungry and horny, here in S4 when talking to Eddie she pretends to "not watch porn" and changes it to "cutting way down on it". And every time this happens she does that special look :)
"Adam is the victim!"
I mean Frankenstein is a victim, so she's not wrong.
@@TheDemonicPenguin, you need to read Shelly's book. Dr. Victor Frankenstein was the scientist who created a creature from scavenged body parts and then brought it to life. All that happened to him was a result of his planned intent. So not a victim. Do you mean the monster that he created? That was not a victim, either, as it demonstrated volition and was therefore responsible for the consequences of its actions. Adam is not a victim, either. Instead, it is the result of Dr. Walsh's plans, though she could not have foreseen how those plans might be executed.
Karma is so beautiful and adorable! I loved her presence at the end of the video. :)
Doggo so cute. OMG.
All these theories about Walsh just for that ending. 👀
This was my favorite of your Buffy reactions so far. Your shock, and confusion, and relief were hilarious to watch. The cameo by Karma made it even better.
Man, there is nothing on the internet I like more than a good Buffy-rant by Cass!! She just made my sh@##y f'n week worthwhile. Loved the whole commandos-to-the-party one. Thanks Cass!
And I love how Cass goes into a 2-minute long breakdown of the thought processes that must be going on with each character then the show covers it all with two lines out of Willow's mouth. The writers definitely know what you're thinking and they definitely know what they're doing in this show.
I believe the last scene in Hush where Reilly came to Buffy's dorm was an extended shot of them just sitting that was tacked on as a post credit scene. I believe that when the HD version came out that was on the DVD as a deleted scene. As someone who had who saw the original broadcast, I remember that end scene and the beginning scene from the next episode always seemed off to me, now I know why.
This past week I've been marathoning your videos of Hill House, then Bly, and now all of Buffy so far. You're very engaging to watch and it's a delight to see your reactions. ♥ And as someone who pauses a lot when I watch things I'm into, I totally feel you, it's super fun to see your thoughts along the way -- rather than having you miss things because you're talking over them.
Omg your dog is so adorable! ❤
My understanding is that Season 4 is a lower ranked season by many fans, but all seasons have their strong points, so it is just personal preference. My ranking: 5 > 2 > 4 > 7 > 1 > 3 > 6. And while Season 6 is my least favorite overall, it has many great episodes/moments/plot lines that I love.
It’s too bad she doesn’t upload Angel to RUclips. BTVS and Angel are one big story the further you get into Angel. I think I would have stayed more into the channel.
Nah, I never have and never will have any interest in Angel. And I don't ever feel like I've missed anything. The attempted crossovers are the weakest part of Buffy going forwards.
@@NessOnett8 It goes beyond just simple crossovers. There are certain Buffy characters that get full story arcs and character development on Angel that you're missing out on. I still think Buffy is a way better show, but it's definitely worth it to get the full experience.
@@NessOnett8 I can appreciate that perspective, but there isn't a whole story of certain characters on BTVS w/out Angel and you miss entire meaning of scenes in BTVS without Angel. I've seen Angel and I didn't think it would make it less enjoyable if a reactor only uploaded Buffy but it does. I can't join everyone's patreon, but I do gift RUclips channels, so I think YT is valid as well.
Love your dog, what great ears!
Cass is the best BTVS reactor on You Tube.
His name being Adam is a play on "Adam and Eve". She's god creating a new, superior being in her mind. According to extended lore, he was a commando who she experimented on
I think the idea was for Walsh to try to build her own slayer, but the actress who played Walsh quit and so they needed a new big bad.
It's a trick question. We're always hungry. Maybe that's not a trick. Anyway, give us food.
Yay puppy in your closing comments!
This episode is about individualism; you hit the nail on the head when you noticed how Buffy talk, acts and dresses different than the rest of the soldiers. Even the name of the episode, The I in Team.
Loved all the Walsh theories, given what was about to happen. :)
You were flummoxed at the end!
I think he's named Adam as in the the first of a species, like Adam and Eve.
It's also a reference to Mary Shelley's "Frankenstein": Frankenstein will not name his creation, who in turn says to his creator "I ought to be thy Adam", as in the Biblical first man.
@@OldManFerdiad Yeah this season really hits a lot of Frankenstein notes with Adam
To be honest I forgot how long Walsh stayed around and was alive this season.
Professor Walsh watching them is so disturbing lol
Great reaction Riley is a badass soldier but Angel he will never be
It's possible that the prototype demon that Walsh was working on was named Adam because he was the first of his kind.
Also, I believe that the reason for the surprise ending was because the actress had been offered another role (I don't remember anything specific). Thus, plans changed, and the rest of the season had to be rethought, starting with the elimination of professor Walsh.
2:24 they're probably just talking about the "oh, come on!" spike says when the credits have already started.
Cass, your theories are hilarious😂 I really enjoy you trying to figure out what happens next, and then something entirely different happens and it makes you genuinely surprised. At the same time, you point out some really important things. Good job.
I'm actually surprised you like this season so much. Not many BTVS fans do. But I think it's because you haven't seen the rest of the show yet and you don't have much to compare to.
S4 has a lot really good individual episodes. It’s just the season long arc isn’t as memorable as other seasons so people have a tendency to rank it lower in comparison. But we get something blue AND hush right next to each other ?
@@SelphieFairy I actually like almost all episodes in S4. My problem is the Initiative and Adam. It's an interesting concept for sure, but I find them boring and less complex compared to other BTVS villains.
@@alexie5201 Yeah, exactly. There's a ton of extremely good episodes. It's just missing the strong season arc, and it makes people overlook it.
I’m with you, four is a banger! I constantly shuffle around my favorite season between 4, 5, and 6. Right now it’s:
5, 6, 4, 7, 3, 2, 1 but all are exceptional except 1 which I would call above average.
7 above 3 and 2 is wild, but hey everyone seems to have a different ranking.
"Adam" was the first man, the creation of God. That's why she chose Adam as the name
Just a note on your 314 speculation at 3:33 - in the previous episode Ethan told Giles 'the underworld is being threatened by the Initiative, especially by something called "314."' I guess you missed that bit :P
I think the demons don't like Adam/314 because he is the hybrid, a mixture of 2 warrior races, human and demon.
Best part of this episode is Buffy outing Walsh on the monitors, although Walsh dying comes in a close second.
I don't think I knew and/or remembered she checked for post credits on BtVS. There's one "during the credits" moment in S1, but that's it.
Riley calmly walking away while Walsh screams after him is also really cool.
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@@robinsonsarah143 I don't consider Walsh being dead a spoiler. Viewers are supposed to assume death. The spoiler would be saying she lived. And now I've stated both, so which is it going to be? 😁
@@robinsonsarah143? Everything we're discussing here happened in this episode.
@@migmitI posted this before other comments
Calling the monster Adam is a reference to Frankenstein. In the book, the monster is called Adam.
I could be wrong but I don’t believe that’s true. I’d have to re read it. I always thought it was a nod to “Dark Shadows”
I looked it up. The book never gives him a name but there is the quote where he says to
His creator: “I oughta be thy Adam” in reference to Adam from the Bible
I thought that was the name of the human he is made from?
No that wasn’t established in the show unless I’m misremembering. Victor Frankenstein is the name of the monster’s creator in the book
In Mary Shelley's Frankenstein? No, never. That's one of my favorite books. It's called the creature and some other nicknames like fiend and devil.
Walsh was supposed to be the big bad of the season but like Seth Green, Lindsay Crouse wanted to be released early because she had been offered a role. Joss Whedon agreed but it meant last minute rewrites, which is why the season suddenly changes direction as seen in this story. It would have been interesting to see what their original intentions were.
Note that the stitched-together guy in camo on the table may not have originally been a human named Adam. Given that name's association with Genesis, it might instead indicate that Walsh sees him as the first of a new breed (and perhaps herself as God).
I think there are many people who see seasons 3 or 4 as the best in some regards... Buffy seasons are just so individual, every Buffy fan has their own favorite seasons and episodes :)
"I have a theory" ha ha!!
I don't believe there was a post credit scene (on episode 11)... Maybe trolls.
comments full of spoilers. i pray you see this one first and stop reading until your moderator has cleaned up.
While most of the Initiative guys were probably annoyed that Buffy was asking questions, the look on Graham's face seemed, to me, to show that he was amused.
I'm here so early. I'm never this early😂😂
Walsh was just surveilling Buffy covertly, then Riley was brought home. It confirms to Walsh how close Buffy & Riley have become and the complications that will likely arise with his loyalty.
Your dog is very cute. ☺
The problem with Season4, and this isn't really a spoiler at this point since you literally just saw Walsh die. But the actress playing Walsh needed out of her contract for personal reasons. So that necessitated very late-stage writing changes for the rest of the season. She was intended to be the big bad. In the same way in Season2 "The Anointed One" was supposed to be the villain but then the actor hit puberty and they needed to pivot to Spike/Angelus.
no that is just a fan myth, Walsh was written to die in this episode once casting was done. There might have been an early draft of the script where she lived for a bit longer but it all changed when they cast Lindsay Crouse, when they got her they knew that they would only be able to have her in very few episodes so the script was rewritten at this early during production.
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remember that she comes back in episode 20 and 21, that would not have happened if she had "gotten out of her contract" or left in anger (another popular myth is that she clashed with Joss). The truth is simply that they got a famous actress with limited access to her time.
Personally, I think ending an episode on "Mommy" can be a really good creative choice.
Anyway, you should have learned to trust the writers by now ;)
Because he's 6 foot 5
I think your dog has camo.
S4 is the oddest season on the show. That said, that is very pretty canine that you have there!S4 has one of my personal top 5's in terms of episodes, but I won't spoil, I will comment when you get to it.
It's at the top of mine!!! I honestly can't wait till we get to the end of this season!! 😂🙌
Obviously I'm not going to spoil anything but the roller coaster starts now untill the end and I'm here for it 👍
So.... can you do another one tomorrow pleeeeeeeease 😂 x
Buffy Fact ✅️ Buffy can bend Metal
When I saw Adam it reminded me of DR Frankenstein
Season 5 is my #1, season 4 is #2 for the high quality of the individual episodes. All that happened in this one should have been drawn out longer (same with the Oz story line) but Lindsay Crouse (Prof. Walsh) decided to exit the show early. The overall season arc was affected but it's still great. For a different view of the actress check out the "Columbo" episode 'Sex and the Married Detective' from 1989.
Wait hold up. What post credit scene?? 2:54
I believe the last scene in Hush where Reilly came to Buffy's dorm was an extended shot of them just sitting that was tacked on as a post credit scene. I believe that when the HD version came out that was on the DVD as a deleted scene. As someone who had who saw the original broadcast, I remember that end scene and the beginning scene from the next episode always seemed off to me, now I know why.
There's no post credits scene, I think the person was referring to her missing the opening credits that added Riley
Yay love your videos ❤❤❤
Not defending forrests obvious jealousy but he does have a valid point. Buffys fighting prowess is irrelevant to the command structure.as it is in all military units.
Messy miscommunication is a necessity for drama.
You have a theory huh
Cass, are we getting a Lanachella react? 🥰
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There aren’t any post credits in buffy the vampire slayer lol . Whoever told you that was messing with you.
Not true, there's one in season one where they're doing the weird play. And you might consider the Grrr Arghh jokes a form of post-credit scene.
Yes, I'm sure they were talking about grrr arg! I really hope she sees since it sort of becomes canon in the show. But she actually would have to sit through the credits to see it.
I'm not even really a dog person, but the way your beautiful pooch communicated with you at the end of that video was just adorable - but that's off-topic! I have always found season 4 to be quite underrated, as we really see the characters grow into their new adult lives and how this affects the group dynamic. Seasons 2 and 3 are my absolute favourites, because they still have a darker vibe. Season 5 is the last "good" season, in my humble view, though it is uneven throughout. After that, the tonal shift kind of ruins the show for me, despite some decent standalone episodes. It just doesn't feel like the same series any longer and comic relief element becomes too prevalent.
1:33 ..."I don't think he is gonna last beyond this season"... Poot Riley, nobody likes him.
For what it's worth I like him.
I think Cass likes him. And I like him, too. I think he has faults, but I think a lot of what plays out in their relationship makes sense and feels very much like a good human hurting to me. I don't think he's the person for Buffy, but I kind of wish he could have been.
Mommy
"I have a theory..." as with many of your theories... something isn't right there... but we love you for trying ❤
It could be witches.
No it could be bunnies
It is definitely bunnies!
or maybe midgets...
The thing you are missing with Willow is just the context of when this show was airing. It was a different time.
Walsh was intended to be the seasons big bad but the actress quit for another gig forcing them to write her out here, which also changed the course of the season arc. The season arc really suffers for that which is why it's not generally peoples favorite. But there are a lot of great stand alone episodes in 4.
Also remember that Green was going to stay longer but his movie commitment changed just before filming started and that caused changes to the original story boarding. With the major cast changes on top of trying to establish Angel on that shows own, Season 4 of Buffy and 1 for Angel quite well
I really also think that this episode is a bit of a character assassination of Walsh that heavily implies that, instead of being the previously established highly intelligent if somewhat ruthlessly pragmatic leader of a top secret military science team, she's a creepy voyeur who is possessively jealous of Riley to the extend of attempting to murder his superpowered girlfriend in a really sloppily executed plan. JW also kills her mid-monologue which is by now his favourite way to smack down characters he wants the audience to think less of (Spike, Ethan, now Walsh).
The best villains believe they are right, Walsh would have been so much better if she'd been written as steadfastly calculating to the end, using her world-renowned psychological acumen to test the Scoobies to their limit. Instead we get this.
@@OldManFerdiad Joss didn't write this episode. Honestly they just needed a quick way to exit her character, I don't think there was anything more to it than that.
The story that Walsh's actress had to leave early, forcing a rewrite of the season, circulates frequently around the fandom, but I've never heard an authoritative source (and the actress herself has denied it when asked, saying she did exactly as many episodes as she contracted for). There could be a source out there I haven't encountered, if so I'd be interested to hear more. But I suspect instead that the reason fans believe the story is that season 4's arc is generally less liked, so they're eager to believe something better was planned. Having Walsh survive seems plausible for that, since in a Frankenstein story you'd normally have the creator around to be tormented by the creature's rebellion, and with Walsh gone it feels like a piece is missing.
@@troikas3353 Each episode was broken by the writers as a group, often from an idea by Joss, but still as a group and monitored by him after, so you can't completely let him off the hook if you don't like something.
Didn't like the ending of this episode tbh. But loved your reaction loads!
Even to the last, Walsh's Theory of Mind about The Slayer is a complete failure.
Seven or eight apocalypses thwarted(so far), scores of vamps and demons slain in nightly mortal combat for years...by a lone 5'4" 120 pound teenage girly girl who fights in heels and halter tops.
As opposed to squads of strapping, 6 feet plus, drug enhanced special operations commandos armed with state of the art ranged weaponry..the top gun of whom has killed 17 "HSTs".
So you send a couple of non -descript demons to murder her and blithely assume she's dead?
She's lucky she didn't live to find out what a Slayer really is.
if something is "Unsaid" then its irrelevant, if you expect other people to abide by your unsaid stipulations, then you are saying they should be mind readers, its silly and immature. Say what you mean.
Jurassic World stole their plot from Buffy Season 4. And didn't do it nearly as well.
I thought Buffy season 4 was a nod to The X-Files and Men In Black.
@Madbandit77 Jurassic World came out like, 6 7 years ago.
@@spamfilter32 That doesn't mean my point is any less valid.
@Madbandit77 your point is irrelevant?
@@spamfilter32 What would be my reason, dear Karnak, to lie?
Cass, i did see your lana reactions and i miss reactions so if want, i have some: good riddance, ashlyn
This season suffers from 2 main characters wanting to leave the show. Think about why the military is interested in deamons.
Do you think we saw an early version of the Initiative in Season 1 when the government agents took custody of Marcie?
Walsh didn't want to leave the show, her dying here was planned since casting was done and she didn't leave the show either.
@@Henrik_Holst Thanks. Too many stories and opinions. No one leaves a paying acting job unless there is another that pays more or longer. Stories are great until you add common sense and how people react. Actors will always try to keep any payday for as long as possible until they don’t need the money to survive.
The reason this episode moves the plot this fast is cause walsh's actress wanted to leave the sgow, dont remember the reason. She was gonna be a longer lasting threat. But they wrapped her arc up and moved on
i always found buffy alittle selfish sometimes suppose she still is a teenager
Love your stuff but series regular and main character are being used interchangably these days and its incorrect. Not trying to be mean it just bugs me and i think its important to spread the truth. Lol.
20:41 OMFG your impression of Professor Walsh made me LOL 🤣
I really like Riley. He is the best of Buffy's romantic interests.
I think the entire Buffy Riley arc is a great story.
Riley's great, up until he's not. He's definitely the closest thing she ever has to a healthy relationship.
@@xyex Riley suffers a crazy amount of trauma in a crazy short time and the show really barely gets into it which is a shame. He kinda has the same problem Xander does where the writers were clearly just not interested in actually exploring him and only really used him as a plot vehicle to explore Buffy which results in him not really growing and the audience never getting to be privy to the real weight of what he struggles with.
@@troikas3353Yeah. Don't want to say much cause it's a lot of spoilers, but there's definitely a few things that happen that seriously screw with his head, and he deals with it badly. The show barely touches on any of it, just showing the fall out, which is why I think a lot of people end up not liking him. It makes him look worse than he is.