Does A Single Axis Gimbal Make better chase footage?
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- We've been on this multi-video series covering single-axis gimbals plus FPV, and in this episode, we try to figure out how well this can adapt to horizon stabilized chase footage.
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Okay everyone that's coming here to say "max lens mod" - I just ordered one. Video incoming soon. Join memberships or Patreon to fund these videos. :P
Hey Nurk, you can still use the horizon lock on the GP9 without that lens, it still looks good but can only use it in 2.7k. Looking good
I for one have a drawer full of 7s to destroy so I actually prefer the single axis gimbal idea at this time. Don't give up on it. The max lens mod is really sweet if you don't mind smashing up some new hardware.
@@EthanMitchell_RUclips the problem it's just so narrow, and you really need to plan that ahead, I just tested that and completely messed framing, I wanted to test that thing with max lens, but I crashed at the end of flight, and drone recovery took... like an hour and some steep climbing
Mannnn i need this hahaha..
Would be more than happy to offer a hand with the chasing a plane part to test :-)
this turns fpv into more of a full fledged professional looking shot instead of a specialty shot. very nice.
I’ve flown fpv for some animal planet stuff, we always use one-axis gimbals.
What do you use? Quark or a competitor?
Lmao it’s funny how you say animal planet stuff like it’s nothing
@@logiknotlogic6586 right! like that's not the coolest job ever...
@@coltonrooster that's like the top 10 biggest documentry tv channel?
@@eagle7015 yes I concur. I was agreeing with him
Absolutely need to see this chasing an airplane. Very, very interested! Thank you again Nurk for helping me spend all my money. 😉
Glad you liked it and I'm going to keep pushing it!
a slope soaring airplane? :D
Action movie scenes, car commercials, car races, somebody racing their own car or motorcycle on a track and wants to see himself doing it... I can see many applications and monetary opportunities for someone like you, Nurk FPV.
Your videos got me started on quadcopters, the scenery, the long flyes around beaugiful places... I appreciate what you do and the time you put in making these videos.
Everyone watching and enjoying these videos should support in one way or another this work. I will...
The purpose for a one axis gimbal is huge in video production, even without a chase subject, but in the beginning of your video as you were flying fast and low over the little stream of reason enough. I can see in video production where a shot could call for something like that. Great vid.
Just saw your insta post. This things looks crazy just came to hit that reminder on button. Nurk you are so dope.
glad you were here!
I love how things have come full circle and are going again. I remember the first servo gimbals and then brushless on the early quads. Onwards and upwards!
It definitely has its own style of footage. To me it reminds me of large helicopter shot productions.
Nurk, by all means, the horizon stabilization gimbal footage looks so much more pleasing and easier to watch. I love watching your work but sometimes it can be difficult to watch epic fast-moving footage. Keep up the masterful work!
Glad that you see the value of it!
Everything I thought's been said in other comments BUT - "lens shelf" "just chatting" angle is a really good look... variety, spice, life. (something like that)
Wow! This is really cool! Thanks for testing that out, just ordered one. I think it's a really nice addition to the arsenal of what FPV can offer :)
just search FPV gimbal on youtube, and you will find that italian guy made one from a selfie stick, 25 euros and half the weight. and easy to make yourself.
Cheers!
@@MrHauf85 that seems completely unrelated, a very different viewpoint.
@@hindesite then you have not looked what i mean, your loss
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You had me at "1 axis gimbal on FPV" totally a great tool to have in the box! Awesome! I think it would be better chasing something bigger with longer runs though. Great job!
You're a phenomenal FPV pilot. I can't believe how amazing your video footage turned out. You got me really interested in learning to fly FPV now.
That “please sub” Lil Nurk was perfect haha
This is the next generation of cinematic FPV. I'm here for it ✊
This is brilliant!!! Thanks for all the ideas you keep sharing Nurk. This one is my favourite.
Little Nurk freaked me out. immediatly hit the sub button, then I remembered I am subbed for for years now.
Man you're still producing such good content 😍 from the original train vid that got me into fpv, to this unique intricate stuff. And all the helpful stuff in between (your shutter angle / ND vid was so helpful!). Thank you 🙏
Absolutely great and much needed research NURK. 👍🏻 I don’t know much about you but I’m catching up to speed quickly. You’re a very smart guy and that’s exactly what this hobbies needs and has been built in is guys like you. I’m just getting into this hobby but I would love to be at your level and yes I will be. I’m looking forward to the outcome of this single axis gimbal deal. Keep it up. 👊🏻
Welcome aboard!
Cool looking gimbal, thank you for looking at it and your thoughts about it. We enjoyed watching your video and thank you for sharing
Love your videos mate. Bought a Quark! Keen to see how it goes with cinematic coastline crusing on a 7" glide
I think this is a great idea. I've been wanting to stabilize FPV footage with a gimbal since I started. Great video and great proof of concept I look forward to seeing what you come up with next.
Thank you for producing such high quality fpv related content. Keep it up!!
A Single axis gimbal on an FPV drone looks awesome chasing that RC car. It really looks like your locked in to the subject as your chasing it.
So many are saying use the Max lens mod.
What they are not taking into account is that in Max lens mode you can only film 2.7k 60 fps. Also the lens mode is wide or maxed superview.
This would allow you to use different settings like linear, narrow, 4k, 5k, 2.7k 120fps etc.
The price though is a bit steep but depends on your needs and what the client wants who you film for.
Bro....thank you! This was so perfectly demonstrated and explained in a manner that made sense to someone like me. Someone without a deep knowledge base of cinematography and such. Always a pleasure to watch your vids. Thanks!!!!
Glad you found it helpuful!
I love your videos bruh, you always pushed the limit with tech thank you for years of advice and testing products
Nice work dude. Ive been following along on the singal axis journey. Very keen to try that gimbal myself for all the motorsport I film here in Australia.
great content once again my friend. dedication+innovation = nurk. P.S. i have come a long way learning FPV from day one with your CMW banggod 5" and want to say thanks again for turning me onto fpv
This is a great idea.
FPV drones are not great for cinematic if you want to move parallel to the subject. Using this gimbal you can sideslip and the gimbal will level the shot as the drone tilts.
This is super cool, and the footage looks super good, just some thoughts.
Hero 9 has horizon leveling built-in, and it seems to work very well. This does limit the field of view a bit, but while the hero 9 is the heaviest GoPro, I can only assume it would be lighter than the camera/gimble setup.
It would be a cool comparison video if you haven't already.
I can't remember but I think they have a wide-angle lense mod which would solve the fov issue.
Shoulda just watched further in the video 😅 supper cool👍
Nurk.... thank you so much. I was looking for this as well. Now I get to see it in action. I will buy asap
I had a whole discussion about this back around June with my friend, and he didn't think it was a good idea. Thanks for validating my thoughts 🤣🤣
You officially win the argument.
@@NURKFPV now I just need a cheaper option than the cork 🤣
For what it's worth... I hate it.
@@Segphalt grumpus? Is that you?
@@woodyfpv5331 it's just subjective opinion. If you like it go for it, for me zeroing out the roll makes the footage look sterile to me. I'm sure it has its place just not something I'd invest in.
For those asking about the MAX LENS MOD: It's really amazing, BUT the two main problems with the Max Lens Mod is lack of ND filters and if you want to use Horizon Lock, you have to use Hypersmooth (can't use ReelSteady) and are stuck with Sub-4K footage; I didn't buy the Hero 9 to be limited to 2.7k.😕 It has it's place, but honestly, you get so much more versatility with the gimbal, and it's not that much more expensive.
Upscale it man. The majority of your viewers will not notice
@@alltehstuffs yes, I know, but I rather it be native for the cost. Better options out there. Plus, that only solves one of the issues.
@@micahokeiley for sure, makes sense to me
Love the mini you on your shoulder holding the subscribe sign 🤣🤣
That drone footage looks good, bro. It's almost like you know what you're doing.
Wow man, some day I hope to be as controlled as you are. That is really good chase footage. Gotta ask though, how many crashes/rc collisions during filming?
This is super cool. I have actually been looking for something like this so this vid was a perfect thing to see today.
Whoop whoop!
First i thought: Why you need this? If i needed to keep it steady then i go for a DJI drone. After i see this video i changed my mind haha
Instead of driving RC car in straight line (back and forth) you need to have it run on a closed loop track with a number of corners (perhaps some spray paint on the snow in a field to create a track?). The tight changes in direction (not necessary higher speed) will produce roll that you're trying to hide with the gimbal.
See what you going for and keeping wide FOV, vs trading to get a stabilized result. Keep experimenting, love your thought process! :)
Hi Nurk,
I like a lot to watch your videos.
I like to try new tools and make experiments like you (but I'm a new to the FPV world). I'm trying to make an experiment to use a DJI Pocket 2 on an FPV Drone. I think one of the problem of chasing an object using a fixed camera, is how fast the object goes. The degress of the cam changes on how you want to go fast the quad. If the object change its speed during the shot, the quad can't go at same speed without changing its angle. Less angle=less speed, but the cam goes to pointing up. So you have to get less altitude to get the object inside your shot. With a 3 axis gimble you can block the tilt of the cam and change the speed without any problem. Otherwise if you want to chenge the angle of view you can't do it. With the DJI Pocket 2 you can have the same results of a one axis, just settings the gimbal in follow mode. Just saying. You are the best. ;-)
I hope it works!
for sure want to try this on my fpv rig. great info bro!
Excellent idea 💡 I like simple gimbal assisting the camera for cinematic work! What we need is GoPro camera that deliver lush colors in lower light situations, 1” sensors perhaps, sometimes that matches the Mavic 2 pro or the inspire camera.
This is the Gold for really great cinematic chase scenes. Great stuff.
Niice glad you like it
That's the best idea I've seen in this community for a LONG time. Post processing stabilization has never been great. The induced zoom/dezooms are usually annoying.
I can't wait to see more footage shot with a one-axis gimbal!
I'm definitely going to keep playing!
I love this gimble! I’ve had it for about 2 years now.
This is absolute dope, i'd love to get one to improve my footage. This is smooth and creamy 😉.
Glad you like it!
@@NURKFPV Should be cool for pole photography too 😉🍹
@@gastonfg 0_0
We have used so many things to simulate the level horizon for doing FPV chase videos we have done over the years, I have to say this gimbal might the answer.
Did not see link under this video.
Did I miss something? Where do you get one?
Definitely interested.
Subbed too. 👍
You should do a shootout between this and the Hero 9 with the lens mod. It’s supposed to do the same thing, but it’s software vs hardware.
Wow that thing is awesome. I gotta get a new frame and stack for my cinewhoop and get one of these for sure. It's amazingly good.
Hope you love it!
Love to see you grow! I've seen you lately in so many different places 😅❤
So glad to be growing!
Been waiting on the Quark to get back in stock. The Max Lens mod is super cool, but has its limits if you need to switch up lens filters often, or even switch up frame rate and image quality on the fly.
That is amazing, this should be on every fpv setup from now on!
No everyone I think, but I'm interested to see how some classic moves like a split S or a juicy flip look with the roll axis fixed on the camera
you are reinventing the wheel bro, nicely done.
DJI sent out an FPV setting for the gimbal which freezes the roll axis. Obviously a Mavic doesn't have the acrobatic abilities of a freestyle drone but the footage you can get is still pretty cool, especially following streams or woodland pathways etc.
I personally love the effect you get without the gimbal because it makes a chase look more dramatic
That is beyond marvellous. A game changer.
Yeah that looks pretty smooooooth, definitely a useful tool as a cinematographer but for the rest of us a cool gimic 😂
i agree with you there haha
Hi, thanks for sharing excellent content. I am pretty sure single-axis gimbals for fpv will be immensely appreciated by the community. One question. Would you mind telling me what drone you're holding at 0:26, or if you could share the specs. Thank you !!!
I bought one after your last video! It’s been fun to play with. Mounted to my project 399 7”. Hoping to chase some drifters and mx riders with it once it warms up a shade. Can’t wait to see what you can do with it!!! Great work dude!
oh that sounds perfect
Love your thinking, I’m also now just upgraded from a GoPro 4 Silver with 3 axis gimbal to a GoPro 9. Not happy at all about the cropping in for stabilising. I am also now looking at the single or 3 axis for the GoPro 9 to remove its cropping in. I’m on MTB & I’m loosing too much info & having to be accurate on camera position while riding. It sux
Thanks for the great video. I've been looking at the Quark for mountain biking and have been trying out the new Insta360 leveling feature. It works great, but for MTB, definitely the FOV is too close in. It loses that speed factor that mimics reality when using a wide FOV. The "Loam Ranger" uses the Quark and his footage is fantastic if you have not seen it in the mountain bike context. He does a great video on the Quark for MTB. Here's my question, since you seem to be more in-tune with the gear side of things, do you think that it is just a matter of time (like 5 years or so?) before digital can accomplish what the Quark does, or is it a physical lens issue in being able to capture the frame without too much fish-eye distortion or lens size? Either way, I'm going to pick up the Quark, but just curious about that. Not sure in the action camera realm if they will have that capability as a physical limitation or a software/sensor limitation that will eventually be overcome. My knowledge is limited about lens capability on these action cams and thought you might have some ideas. (Sorry if it's in the comments, there are so many!!) Thanks again for the video, new subscriber!
This looks like an incredible tool, Thanks for sharing!
Pretty satisfying. This would make gread filming footage for animals, documentaries, or b-roll. Definitely prefer raw, non-gimbal footage for action chasing.
The example worked for sure and you probably could of shown that first lol. But my question is how good is the battery life on that single axis gimbal? I bought a different one made to hold phones and modified it then took it to west virginia snowshoe mountains for filming snowboarders but either the cold weather or the weight of the gopro or combination of the two kept killing the battery and it would just shut off. I plan to remove the gimbal battery and wire it to the fc so it runs off vbat and that should fix the issue but it's a very tedious process. The wires are so fine they can easily be broken. But once fixed with a connector it can make the use more practical especially in colder weather applications. Thanks for sharing the gimbal link. Gonna try it out
Already waited for that video 😂. Looked really interesting when I saw it the first time! Has a lot benefits for filmmaking but if you want specific shots you need that standard gopro mount without gimbal but holy...this is soo great. As you tried to show, for chasing it’s just insane!
Agreed! Thanks for checking it out!
Need to check out using this to chase shots in DiscGolf. I think that would be super interesting!
Wow that is super awesome Nurk... I'm surprised one in cinematic FPV done this ages ago!
I will have a look what else is out there. But I know in superbikes people put gyro to keep camera level at horizon... Does the same thing really. Either way it's supper cool to see it on a drone!
yeah it's so good to have it here on a drone!
I'm looki g forward to see it chasing something... Or flying down the mountain or something just to compare this set up to the standard one. But it looks and sound like it's not only it should give you more stable video at various angles but also make it a little bit easier for the pilots.... Will see how it will turn out... Great video and idea !
Some seriously impressive drone piloting sir! Awesome.
it would be really interesting to compare this to a Insta360 ONE R (360mod) (since this cam do not crop (ish) .. so it would like hardware vs. software
I think this is a solid idea. And for everyone complaining about the price tag, supply and demand my friend. An injected part cost more than the plastic it's made of. A machined part cost more than the material as well. Tooling is expensive. If it became a very popular product the price would come down substantially with larger runs spreading the cost of tooling over hundreds of thousands of units. If viewed as a tool for 📽️ the current price is actually quite attractive. Great video.
Edit: it also does time lapse pans. Little added value there.
preach it
Great video. What brand gimbal is that… never mind. I guess third time looking in your description the charm. Haha!
coool.Where can buy a gimbal?
I picked up a GravGrip (unpowered single axis gimbal that uses hydraulics for dampening) during their Kickstarter and now I'm tempted to make a mount and stick it on one of my kwads - getting the counterweight dialed in is a pain though
Run a dual receiver on the car (so that the same transmitter controls the steering on the car that also sends yaw/roll inputs to the drone's flight controller). Tune the mixing on the car's receiver so that it turns when the drone turns... now that would be interesting and seems doable.
Well done video, as this does answer a few questions I had. When you break down the untamed quad animal flight characteristics, speaking of straight FPV rip vs cinematic quad. On some quad footage doing rips I do like to see a little prop wash just adds to the effect of the flight video...where cinematic quads you want the stable X/Y axis but not so quick that you overshoot the filming object and no prop wash to take attention away from the object you want noticed. So with that, what do you think is the best frame size for a cinematic quad build so give you stability while giving you a slightly slower flight but still be able to manuever quickly for direction changes say chasing an R/C car or another quad?
Man you don't need to beg for subscribers, your content is awesome x
Very interesting, nice build! I think is a little expensive, but in the context that you work making content this is a level higher. Worth more those $200 gimbal or gp9 + max lens with horizon lock and reelstedy for $150? Is the same effect?
Does the gimbal effect your tune of the rig? I would imagine the extra shaking from the gimbal might effect how the rig flies, by creating more noise on the logs.
This is what I need for next time when I do some chase footage!
this actually looks like footage i would use in professional applications
Very cool. I like this look a lot better. I think this has a look for a chase scene in say a thriller movie where the bad guy is chasing a victim who escaped and is running for their life or some shot like that. It has so much fluidity that you could see the terror and action all at once
Did visit the site after watching. You should do an unboxing and review of quark stabilizer 2 and maybe comment on future iterations.
You’re awesome. This is awesome. I’m lucky as hell to have found your channel.
Wow, thank you! So glad that you're here!
AN IDEA! Add the ability to lock gimbal during flight via radio transmiter. It might give you an ability to do hybrid shoots (steady and acrobatic) during one flight :)
that's a solid idea
Hmmmm will it work better in functionality vs the wide angle lens mod. You get more resolution out of it for sure. But as far as leveling the horizon
i like it....if you used a three axis gimbal it makes it look too smooth. when you want some chase footage you kind of want it to be a little rugged. I think this offers the perfect balance between that and smoothness. it also makes it look like youre flying instead of floating which is a really nice look for something like this.
Thanks for all the work you do making these videos and explaining the details along the way. Say “Hello!” to your newest Subscriber! 👍👍
This would be great shooting chase video from the side of a subject. The horizon was REALLY lost when I chased the guys on the dirt bike track trying to get them and their bike.
This is super cool! Can you make it a challenge flying FPV with your VTX camera stabilized with that?
It's in the list
I can’t even tell you how much I love your videos please keep up the good work 😎
I volunteer to be chased on my motorcycle. 😁 I think this tech is awesome! What a sweet video!
Hey man, did you ever do any more with this?… I’m thinking this will work great with the DJI Action 2, small footprint!
Looks great man thats what i need for chasing dirtbikes
yeaa!
@@NURKFPV i chase every wekend dirbikes for the last 9 months now
Just a thought.
Use the 360° cam at the rear of the RC car and keep the FPV on focus in post.
Could you do it next?
I want one now! But I don't have 200€ bucks just laying around and don't know, whether RSGO would work with it as I only have a session 5 and that needs a really soft mount so no vibrations come through...
yeah you'll probably want a new gopro first.
@@NURKFPV
Actually am still fine with the session 5, when I thought of getting a newer one I always ended up with a new quad instead 😂😂
For normal Videos it is good enough, weight isn't that much, no big screen to break and often I fly without one, because most Videos I wouldn't watch later and so I get +1min flight time 😇
Designed myself a Rs-Go mount that I can put between the Quad and the GoPro when I need it and take of if I do freestyle, works pretty fine 😊
And instead of spending the money on a GoPro I rather have a new class of quad. Began with two 5", bought a Cinewhoop, next was a 5" Racer, then a 3" 250g one, a Tinywhoop for indoors and now a 40g 3" for the park closer to people. Money is better spend on quads than on a GoPro at the moment 🙃😉
But GoPro upgrade will come too, I know myself 😜
Great footage bro!!
Great idea, in fact this would work really well on an FPV plane...Quads are already fully power stabilised, unlike planes...🤔😀🇬🇧
Nice idea, might be fun to put on a plane as well. Also if you are located somewhere in the northeast US I fly fixed wing rc planes. You are welcome to chase them.