My First Roll of Portra 400 - Pentax K1000!
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Hello, everybody! Today I talk about my first roll of Portra 400. Paired with Portland, the low contrast vibe is a perfect pair. I do think that the grain is very prominent in the darker shots but Portra loves light so that is to be expected.
What's your favorite roll of film?
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If that is a k-1000, its a great camera, but you must remember that the exposure meter is what is called an averaging meter, meaning it will be influenced by the light coming from the whole scene. It is possible that your meter was influenced by bright spots in your picture. The way around this would be to meter off of a grey card, or pointing it away from the sun, but up to the blue sky, which is an 18% grey to set your exposure.
Or, in the case that you had a person that you wanted to shoot with a bright background, walk up to them until you can fill the viewfinder with their face, get the exposure right, then step back and get it how you like it, then shoot. One good resource is Bryan peterson's website or books on exposure. Great information.
As for your glasses, you get a rubber eyecup that can fit over the viewfinder, or something rubber like an o-ring that you can put there so you can put your glasses up to it without scratching them. Hope that helps, good luck! :)
John Cantrell this comment helped me to figure out how to get exposure on a subject with a bright back ground. I’ll keep what you commented in mind.
I’m new to film photography and photography in general and I really like how you describe your thought process when you take a photo it’s really helpful to me so thanks for sharing.
Ashanti Grace thank you for the kind words!
Uuuuuh great stuff! Love finding fellow youtubers who shoot film
400 is grainy. If you're going to be shooting in good daylight, shoot 120; if you're going to be shooting in overcast, shoot 220.
Worst case scenario, shoot 220 and push it to 400, but you're going to have to find a lab or shop which will develop pushed film. Dwayne's in Kansas does, and they've been around forever.
As to the focusing/eyepiece issue, get an eyecup off eBay. A rubber cup will keep your glasses from scratching.
..Joe
jagerardi thanks for all the info!
Nah 400 isn't that grainy, not with Portra. I guess if you are comparing to digital then sure.
No, I'm comparing it to ASA 100 or 200 or even Velvia 50 on my Nikon F3. Digital cameras don't have grain, they have noise. Big difference.
ASA 400 WILL have grain. That's a fact of the silver chloride. That said, sometimes it has to be used to compensate for the light. Bit in daylight, shooting a lower ASA film will result in less grain in the photos.
..Joe
Different iso won’t effect grain, underexposed areas will be grainy but that has nothing to do with iso more to do with metering technique etc, in saying that I rate 400 at about 320 as I believe it looks better just a touch overexposed but I still meter the same, which with portra is for the shadow areas and let the highlights fall where they will.
Sorry, but you're wrong ASA 400 film IS more grainy than ASA 100, because it has more Silver Halide, or other various dye clouds on the film stock. It's also 4 times more sensitive to light than ASA 100, so a photographer can get 4 times the light-collecting capacity on that film, at the cost of grain in the prints.
..Joe
Regarding your glasses problem - I don't know what diopter you need, but you can search the e-buy for corection glass you have to put on a viewfinder. Many cameras had that option back in the day. Other than that, Nikon F3 and Olympus OM3, OM3Ti, OM4 & OM4Ti was the only SLR film- based, non-autofocus cameras ever that had diopter built - in. On the cheap/rangefinder side with built- in diopter, you can get a old rusian Zorky camera for some $30, lens included.
Hello, there are so, much more than B&W films out there
There's, Kodak Gold 100,24 exposures Kodak Gold 200 24 exposures, Kodak Gold 400 24exposures, Kodak Gold 800 36exposures, Kodak Gold 1600 36exposures that's to get you started and there all
In living color.
My thoughts as to why the photos were grainy, and there was a little color cast, is cause you didn't expose for the shadows. Which is a very important thing to do as you're shooting color negative film.
Despite that, your photos were awesome, dude. Keep it up!
Some Great pics! Just picked up a k1000 in fantastic condition for just $20 and I'm excited to shoot my first ever roll of film soon! This inspired me!!
Really nice pictures, get some cinestill 800 to night downtown shots.
MatchRoad thank you! The look of that film looks amazing!
Taylor Bluemel also some ektar 100
I shot my first roll of 400 ISO film with the K1000 and I also had problems with the light meter. In my case the light meter was showing that the photo was like 3 or 4 stops underexposed compared to the sunny 16 technique and the light meter from my other camera. I didn't get the processed negatives yet but I think that the pictures I took based on the K1000 light meter got way too exposed. I found out that lots of people ahave issues with the K1000's light meter. I think it's better to rely on our own experience on sunny16
That's good to hear thank you!
These all looked good maybe a stop or two underexposed here and there which will bring out grain. A big tip for shooting film is metering correctly, always err on over exposure. With negative film you won't blow out the highlights so make sure you are exposing for the shadows. For example, on the bridge shots I would have taken my meter reading on the metal areas or under the bridge it's self, it looks like it's exposed for the sky. Also, your camera has a nice averaging meter if it was saying to over expose more than what you think it should be... trust the meter. You can also check it with the phone light meter app, don't use a digital camera to meter. The ISO is different from brand to brand, 400iso on a Sony isn't the same as a Fuji etc. One last thing, I would ask the lab to dial back the sharpness. I can see some of the clumped grain look from being over sharpened. Still, you did great for your second time shooting! Keep it up!
Thank you for all of the feedback! Very appreciated, I am going to be taking a roll of Tri-x 400 out here soon.
The downtown Photo was GREAT.
Awesome video! I use to found a Pentax MX (Black) paired with a 50mm SMC f1.4 Pentax lens all for $10 in mint conditions.
It was a steal. The camera was a little dirty inside, but the lens was flawless. I sold the camera and kept the lens ;)
It's constantly glued to my Sony a6000!
Hananias Q where do you people find these suckers that basically give away camera gear...
So cool! Im looking forward to seeing the next film you shoot. I just recently read a lot of reviews on it.
Mrmynameisparamore on the tri x roll? I'm really excited to shoot on it!
Taylor Bluemel yeah! I read it’s like one of the best black and white films out there. Of course all film is subjective, but I’m stoked to see what you do with it!
From they way your talking it sounds like your from Seattle, I’m from Seattle to and are trying to get back into my photography from taking a little, i recently just ran across a Pentax K1000 w/ a tamron SP 35-210mm lens at a pawn shop and had to get it, I loved your video, I have to start practicing with mines .
I'm from Wyoming actually! That's great to hear it's always exciting getting a roll back!!
Like you, wearing glasses, I got really fed up raising and lowering them to use the view finder. I now use contact lenses when I'm going out taking photographs and they are great. Have no fear of getting them out of your eye, they come out easy once you get the knack of it and would thoroughly recommend them.
Les Welton contacts are sounding more and more tempting! I now have a lovely scuff on my right lens.
I think that if time is an issue you should use a digital camera. And I say this without irony or sarcasms. What I mean is that using this kind of camera in this age is an artistic matter, so any of us should be worried by other kind of problems. Like, as you mention, the kind of grain in the photo. But of course my opinion is relative cause I am a beguiner photographer, I used to take analog photos when I was young (I´m 56), so for me digital cameras were great when I was not worried with anything more than having a souvenir of some hollyday. Now I´ve been taking this art seriously since four years ago, and coming back again to analog, so I want to buy a used 35 mm like this nice very competent Pentax; and so, I think that for snapshots or street photography, something sudden, a small, simple, point and shoot, is ok (obviously, this is not so simple and absolute). So, excuse me if I´ve been pretentious or ignorant, it´s just a point of view.
Horacio Millán great points! I mainly shoot on my A600 for my serious photos and I use the K1000 just for 'fun' even though it is time consuming and expensive! I would LOVE to use one of the new fujis and test their film profiles to see how accurate they are as far as combining digital with 35mm!
Taylor Bluemel It looks as a great idea to compare both types of photography, maybe I will do the same now that I bought the same Pentax you have. And talking about money, as you can imagine for my age, I started taking snapshots as any other guy since I was a kid, and now I remember my first travel to Europe some twenty years ago. I took lots of photos cause I thought it would pass a lot of time to come back (fortunately it didn'), with a very simple point and shoot, and when came back home I spent three months before I could develop and print them, cause they were so expensive. Digital has made posible to take thousands of photograph and look at them immidiately in a pc, wich is absolutely wonderfull and cheap.
Underexposed Portra is a mess, but it can handle 1 stop overexposure beautifully, 2 stops very well, and even 4-5 stops before it's totally screwy. There are several places with side-by-side comparison, but here's one to start with: canadianfilmlab.com/2014/04/24/film-stock-and-exposure-comparisons-kodak-portra-and-fuji/
It can be pushed with good results, if you have that option: carmencitafilmlab.com/introduction-portra-family/
You asked for recommendations -- 100TMax or Bergger-400 or Adox Silvermax, but reversal developed by dr5 lab in Iowa. They have a proprietary process that makes for a much better scan IF you use the ISO ratings they list for each film. Click on the thumbnails from this address to see examples: www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreviewdev1.html and right-click on each example for a magnified view.
They also make sepia-toned slides that last 'forever': www.dr5.com/blackandwhiteslide/filmreviewdev2.html
Use a Hand Held Light Meter.... I have used a K1000 in years gone by and never really had grainy (Noise) images.. However I have with another camera? but yea..Hand Held Meter...
Most color negatives are very hard to overexpose. You can definitely let the meter go upwards with portra 400. Ektar 100 can be shot exactly perfectly metered and is not grainy at all. Having said that, I actually think that a few of your photos would have been better if they were exposed more for the highlights. You keep a darker picture, but probably with more character and mood and focus on the remaining clean highlights. You will love Tri-X it's probably my favourite film.
Portra 400 is a bit grainy at box but you can get nice pastel colors and finer grain by shooting it at 200 or even 100 ISO. For your glasses problem, try zone focusing: using depth of field to your advantage. In-camera light meters are often dodgy so trust a good incident light meter held in the shadows to nail exposure.
I bought a Nikon F3 HP. It was the first SLR viewfinder I used that was glasses friendly. I am very happy with the purchase and results. Regards and thanks for sharing the photos. Very nice! I have my first roll of Portra 400 coming up and I appreciate the exposure tip.
For quick street photography you might need to prefocus using the hyperphocal distance and the depth of field scale on the lens. There are articles online.
R Whynacht I'll check them out thanks!
....or wearing a hat ;)
Great photos BTW!
Pentax k1000 so known for having their light meters fail as they age.
Grain doesn't matter when your photos are bad, want to ditch grain? Get a digital camera, or go large format film.
What 35mm neg. scanner did you use for PC/Mac OS?
Hi there..I was rather surprised when you told the light meter had problems with a 400ASA film, especially the underexposure problem. When you explained that you do your metering with your spectacles on, I understood what was causing the metering problem: your using of spectacles/eyeglasses while metering. It is a simple thing: the metering sensors are directed from the prism to the screen. They meter the light that, in principle coming through the lens and hitting the screen, is dispersed there. If you, alas, let light come in also from behind (that is: through the viewfinder) the light meter reads TOO MUCH light and advises you to erroneously use a f/time combination wayward from that what the film needs to be properly handled. Pleez buy a rubber eyepiece.
Interesting. I didn't know that the light reflecting off my glasses would make the meter go out of whack. Thank you for the info!
I have always rested my head on my thumb whilst looking through the eye piece.. maybe that might help
Most people shoot Portra 400 at 100 you practically can’t overexposed Porta 400.
Thanks for nice video.
My 20 years of film shooting tells me this: what battery did you use? A modern one gives opportunistic measurements and thus underexposed photos. Another guess: because of the underexposure you had to repair in lightroom. And that... is making muddy photos with digital grain (green/purple pixels). Been there done that. Your scanner software can also be the bad boy. Film can be overexposed a lot. You wont blow the highlights as with digital. Try it next time. Good luck!
I think a little less vibing is in order.
Nice work for a first try...
Any way, very nice work.
What aperture and shutter speed settings were you using at these darker hours?
Paul Pages personally I am using widest aperture for low light and 1/60 or 1/125 shutter speed. 60 shutter speed is great
@@Pentax67 Thanks for the quick reply. I feel like I wait ages for a response from a RUclips comment. I'll give those settings a go when I shoot at the darker hours or situations.
3:24 - exactly, enough useless chit chat, nobody cares. show the photos.