5 Tips Creating Webtoon Panels

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
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Комментарии • 221

  • @lonelynoodle6192
    @lonelynoodle6192 5 лет назад +317

    This video is an eye opener on how hard comics are hard to make and makes you apriceate comics even more.

  • @ΓεωργιαΑνδρεαδη-θ4υ
    @ΓεωργιαΑνδρεαδη-θ4υ 5 лет назад +280

    I love both your webtoon and your voice!! You are so relaxing!!

  • @otaku4life549
    @otaku4life549 2 года назад +1

    I was having a really hard time understanding how the panels work....
    Your explaination is so easy to understand and informative at the same time
    I love your art style too.....not to mention your cute accent.....
    Loved your video

  • @gretaanne6403
    @gretaanne6403 4 года назад +11

    8:34 'Panels are the language that comic artists speak to the reader... and if the story be able to convey the reader, that means the artist's voice are heard.'

  • @binablob
    @binablob 5 лет назад +149

    AAAA THIS HELPS ME SO MUCH! thank you so much 😭 im making a webtoon right now (webtoon challenge: offbeat) and people in the comments said my panels are too short.
    this video really helps me! 😭

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +11

      Very glad to hear that, good luck for your webtoon

    • @cinnamonstix9202
      @cinnamonstix9202 4 года назад +1

      I'm gonna start reading it :0 (btw your art is so pretty guajdhdsjajas)

  • @Lexus_Cast
    @Lexus_Cast 5 лет назад +109

    Honestly your Eggnoid Webseries is the only reason I keep checking Webtoon!👩🏻‍💻💕
    However I followed your Panel Advice you tweeted & it was a HUGE help in getting me to start my manga! Now I branched out & do my panels from your advice or my own spin!
    Even sending it to others as a start up!
    Now my Manga is a little over 100 pages!
    My fear or starting my Manga almost doomed me! Especially panels!
    Yet, the way you explain your Panel methods through video or even images really flows through naturally!
    🥰Thank you Archie the Red Cat!♥️❤️♥️

    • @stefaniaalexandramunteanu8478
      @stefaniaalexandramunteanu8478 5 лет назад +4

      Try "Small World" and ""I love Yoo" and "Acception" 😌

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +7

      Whoaaa Im very happy for you that you can face your fear, you are very brave, 100 pages are trully an achievement Im glad I could help, but the hard work and dedication is on you, congrats!

    • @Lexus_Cast
      @Lexus_Cast 5 лет назад +3

      Archie The RedCat 💗Oh Thank you so much! I also give my thanks❣️ I’m still very in shock yet proud by how many pages have been completed! & I Will also start to recognize my achievement as my own! 🎉🥳🎉
      💕I truly appreciate the kind words & apprecitaion💕
      I will take your advice to heart 🥰♥️❤️♥️

    • @Lexus_Cast
      @Lexus_Cast 5 лет назад +2

      Alexandra Munteanu 😌👌🏻Awww thank you for the suggestions! I barely got into “True Beauty” & been rereading “Erma”! However I will keep these in mind 😭💕💗💕

  • @kina-chan8691
    @kina-chan8691 5 лет назад +40

    aaa kak archie😭😭💞💞💞💞 sangat membantu sekali tutor panel nya, aku cari cari di channel lain banyak yang ga ngerti, berkat kak archie , membuat oanel diyoutube menjadi ngerti 😆 terimaksih banyak kakk 💞💞💖💖💖

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +7

      Wah syukurlah kalo gt huhu udah khawatir karena beberapa pronounce nya belibet.. musti terus belajar bahasa ingris nih.. makasih ya uda nonton

    • @wedotalkaboutwhatarmystand4796
      @wedotalkaboutwhatarmystand4796 4 года назад

      @@archietheredcat aku fasih bahasa Inggris, pronounciation kamu udah jelas banget 😄👍. Good work!
      I enjoy the comic

  • @hyliahxo
    @hyliahxo 5 лет назад +33

    YOUR VOICE IS SO CUTE! I REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU A BIG HUG! YOU ARE SO PRECIOUS. I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. I LOVE YOUR WEBTOON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING. sorry for screaming, i just really love you and your work ^.^

  • @pinupop1234567
    @pinupop1234567 4 года назад

    one thing i always noticed abt eggnoid was the panelling is so well done and engaging

  • @anitatapiocah
    @anitatapiocah 4 года назад +3

    This was so thoughtful and really helped me out! I think one of my biggest of my many mistakes is too much dialogue, I really want the characters to exposition and have a hard time laying out the story without it. My goal this year is to speak more through my work and ease up on the dialogue.
    Thank you for a very informative video!

  • @plumderustplum3778
    @plumderustplum3778 5 лет назад +25

    Oh wow this is really informative! I really want to start my own comic, but I don’t know where to start, especially when it comes to panels. But this video has really helped me to understand them more, and it’s quite simple now that i think about it! Thank you! Maybe I’ll give starting my comic a go soon!
    Great video!👍💞💞💞xx

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +2

      Plumderust Plum Im very glad if it helps, goodluck for your comic

  • @starry-p
    @starry-p 2 года назад

    I never knew your voice was so darn cute! I am inclined to believe you really are a little red cat!

  • @thelovelyevie_
    @thelovelyevie_ 23 дня назад

    9:42 thats a really cute cat ❤

  • @trash4monstax
    @trash4monstax 5 лет назад +12

    Thank you for these tips 😄 If I want to make a Webtoon someday, I'll make sure to follow them 🙂 Loving how the story of Eggnoid is going by the way 💗

    • @crestiecare5203
      @crestiecare5203 5 лет назад

      Get that out of here

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +5

      Thank you and good luck for your webtoon, if you still have doubt, try to make short episode with open endings, so when you still have the interest you can always continue

  • @talatootie
    @talatootie 4 года назад +1

    Your voice is so cute!! I’m trying to start a comic and i’ve been having some troubles paneling and figuring out how to put dialogues, and this really helped!

  • @dikvalent5315
    @dikvalent5315 5 лет назад +1

    Thankyouuu! Big thanks for you ♥️♥️♥️ i've been dealing with this for ages. I am a coward and always hesitate to actually making webtoon but this encourage me a lot 🥺. Wish me luck! And i wish you all the good things and vibe in lifeee! 🌸🌸

  • @swepsdakittie7792
    @swepsdakittie7792 4 года назад

    Omg why is her voice so fucking cute and she is sharing her skills.
    She is amazing.

  • @freed6038
    @freed6038 5 лет назад

    Bisa baru tau komikus dewa macam Thor buat tips gini, I'm srsly missing out. Makasi buat penjelasannya, super jelas buat noob seperti saya yg masi berusaha memahami dan meraba2 gimana caranya buat webtun, soalnya panelling bener2 bikin bingung dari pas pertama transisi dari baca komik cetak k digital. Thanks a lot!

  • @jinklbo
    @jinklbo 4 года назад

    This is my first time watching a Archie the Red Cat video! Wow, thank you for making this~!

  • @lionawonda
    @lionawonda 4 года назад

    Cute voice and chibi artwork..
    Subscribed ✨✨✨

  • @janinecarlet
    @janinecarlet 4 года назад +1

    I love your art so much. I really enjoy reading Eggnoid. The amount of effort and detail you put into your art is amazing. I am certain you inspire so many artists to start telling their own story (including me). Thank you so much. To me, your tutorials are the most sincere and concise. You da best

  • @snarfskywalker2312
    @snarfskywalker2312 5 лет назад +6

    Love your RUclips, and Eggnoid. Archie You're awesome!

  • @palakdesai444
    @palakdesai444 4 года назад +1

    I love your work on webtoon "THE EGGNOID"its so much interesting Especially with eggy being in it😅i really do appreciate your work.you give me inspiration.by reading your comic i feel so relaxed and excited about whats gonna happen.thank you and stay safe

  • @leticiagabi5540
    @leticiagabi5540 3 года назад

    it helped a lot!! Thanks
    I'm going to start making comics and it was just what i needed

  • @GinaFajriAulia
    @GinaFajriAulia 5 лет назад +9

    this is really helpful. thank you so much! love your webtoon so much and PS : you have the cutest voice! please do more voice over

  • @chrisgalaxy2948
    @chrisgalaxy2948 3 года назад

    Woahh!! A don't speak English but this video is so easy to understand!! Thank U! 😍

  • @nazunamiyauchi8329
    @nazunamiyauchi8329 4 года назад +7

    A year old video.
    But it still helped, I only know like manga layouts (Im a weeb) still a noob to Webtoon layout

  • @Phicoopia
    @Phicoopia 5 лет назад

    Video nya bermanfaat banget kakk jadi lebih ngerti aja soal perkomikan itu bikin nya gimana hehe😂😂😂 thanks you kak arci🌸🌸baek banget ampe dikasi tutorial 😊😊

  • @kamisamachive2424
    @kamisamachive2424 4 года назад

    This information is invaluable

  • @alexandrazapatamultimedia
    @alexandrazapatamultimedia 4 года назад

    Your videos are so cute! I felt very relaxed listening to your voice and watching how you draw!

  • @naufalyusuf2377
    @naufalyusuf2377 5 лет назад +1

    Bnyk yg komen bhw tutorny sgt bagus...tapi knapa aku g ngerti ya..wkwkwk...canda ja...kalau d liat" tutorny memang bagus walaupun aku g ngerti apa yg d ucapnya....semangat ya...

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      Saya juga sedang belajar bahasa ingris, kalo ga dipraktekin apa yang diajarin guru nanti lupa, yuk belajar juga.. semangat!

    • @naufalyusuf2377
      @naufalyusuf2377 5 лет назад +1

      Benar itu, tpi klo teks inggrisnya ada d bwh itu ganggu gak, cuma saran sih...de

  • @peripateticmind8461
    @peripateticmind8461 5 лет назад +2

    You're a master at this! Thank you for the wonderful video and amazing tips!

  • @catapangsimon8859
    @catapangsimon8859 4 года назад

    You could also become a voice actor. 😂A cute soothing and refreshing voice😗😆, I love it.

  • @marce9272
    @marce9272 4 года назад

    This was really, really, helpful, as your other videos, thank you very much. I feel crazy trying to do a Webcomic, but am also so so excited 😆

  • @martalicul4433
    @martalicul4433 5 лет назад +1

    You're so cute! This really helped me, keep up the good work, I'm definitely checking out your webtoon😊

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      thank you verymuch ^^ I hope you enjoy reading the webtoon

  • @reppu1723
    @reppu1723 5 лет назад +71

    Hmm.. how about you make a video about dialog balloons ;)

  • @julyartworld5484
    @julyartworld5484 4 года назад

    Thank you for thinking about people like me who have been making a webcomic. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURE FAMILY, HOME AND HEALTH.

  • @min-ch8em
    @min-ch8em 5 лет назад +1

    Selanjutnya panel untuk komik biasa kaa♡♡
    Makasih ka archie ilmunyaa

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      Kalo itu sudah pernah di post di Tumblr haha.. kalo ga salah di FB juga ada

    • @min-ch8em
      @min-ch8em 5 лет назад

      @@archietheredcat oke ka makasih infonya
      Semangat ya kaa! ♡

  • @debyshintia9565
    @debyshintia9565 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you kak archiieeee 😍 ku dengerinnya sekalian belajar b.inggris juga 👍 btw suara kakak lucuuu banget ❤ ku tunggu video tutorial selanjutnya kak... semangattt 💕💕💕

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      Waa syukurlah kalo gt, terimakasih mau nonton, ini juga saya sambil belajar ngomong bahasa inggris karena pronunciation nya masih jelek haha tapi kalo ga dipraktekin ga akan bisa bisa jadi harus di biasakan ^^ yuk belajar bareng

  • @empresscarrot5417
    @empresscarrot5417 4 года назад

    Thank you for teaching us about panels. Very useful! I'm going to make a webtoon and I'm studying a lot :)

  • @Mrizha_180
    @Mrizha_180 4 года назад +1

    Love this....semangat trus kak..

  • @Allizt
    @Allizt 5 лет назад +2

    This is very helpful im struggling with making panels and i was looking for the tutorial like this ^^

  • @dreavera12
    @dreavera12 5 лет назад +6

    Such help!!! Thanks For this video! It helps a lot! but I wonder about the dimensions of panels I have seen many videos of people using different dimensions than the ones that webtoon ask. And Im so confused about it! Plus webtoon discover section has so many stuff with different dimensions like main thumbnail, episode thumbnail. Panel size! Im so lost xD

  • @slimfingerioshady7866
    @slimfingerioshady7866 5 лет назад +3

    trima kasih bnyak y chie...penjelasannya komplit bgt 😍
    smoga kamu sllu sehat dan sllu mendapat ide2 segar di dunia perkomikan..

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      Terimakasih banyak, aminnn sama sama ya semoga sehat selalu juga

  • @gummybear2700
    @gummybear2700 4 года назад +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!! This video is the most useful I've seen with layouts.

  • @lqtespring546
    @lqtespring546 5 лет назад +4

    These are so helpful!! Thank you for this upload! 💕

  • @Glamrgrl104
    @Glamrgrl104 5 лет назад +3

    Thank you for this video it helps a lot I've struggled s paneling it gets so frustrating.

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      im very glad to hear dat ^^ thank you for watching

  • @pozega294
    @pozega294 4 года назад

    THIS IS SUCH A LIFE SAFER!!!!! Thank you so much for this video!!! Your voice is so cute!!!

  • @madmouse1016
    @madmouse1016 4 года назад

    This is actually really helpful! I kind of feel bad that I lost track of Eggloid- I had so many comics on my plate that I couldn't keep up with them all TwT

  • @MrZangief11
    @MrZangief11 5 лет назад +6

    Buat versi/sub indo nya teteh, biar lebih fokus gitu. Ini harus mencerna mengingat dan mentrenslet secara bersamaan, susah:'D
    Btw thanks bgt teh bermnafaat pisan

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      Cape nge CC in tuh bisa seharian, masih harus ngerjain webtoon, mohon pengertianya ya, kalo mau tolong pang bikinin CC nya aja ya XD

    • @MrZangief11
      @MrZangief11 5 лет назад

      @@archietheredcat wah ide bagus teh =D

  • @lilaxlicious1025
    @lilaxlicious1025 3 года назад

    she sounds like little misfortune, its so CUTe!😭❤,,, but still this is a really useful cause im planning to make a webtoon so thank you for this video!

  • @deadmeme4058
    @deadmeme4058 4 года назад

    Your voice suits your character so well!

  • @coklatstroberi4674
    @coklatstroberi4674 3 года назад

    very informative and helpful , thankyou!

  • @kyoshuko20
    @kyoshuko20 5 лет назад

    thankyou banget kak tutorialnya,ditunggu terus next tutorialnya semangatt terusssssss i love yourr art and comic so muchh

  • @kaiskaii3974
    @kaiskaii3974 4 года назад

    This video is great! I still need to learn alot on making webtoon comics. Thanks for sharing this! 💙

  • @araarauwu70
    @araarauwu70 4 года назад

    Suaranya teh archieee imutttt banget and so soothing too

  • @rm-hr1yx
    @rm-hr1yx 4 года назад

    this is so helpful and informative! thank you for your hard work ^^

  • @jxnxbyjana
    @jxnxbyjana 5 лет назад +17

    Thank you so much!! My friend and I would love to start a webtoon and we have more than 5 stories we would like to write but we feel lost since we are not sure how to use the panels and how to cut the sizing of the picture in photoshop but your videos helped us sooo much thank you!!

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      Blooming Crafts im very glad to hear that, good luck for your webtoon

    • @jxnxbyjana
      @jxnxbyjana 5 лет назад +1

      Thank you so much!!! I love your webtoon it is amazing and the best one I have ever read!!! Keep up the amazing work!!!

  • @randy5828
    @randy5828 5 лет назад +3

    Waaaahhhh ternyata redcat ada channel juga ya😆
    Apakah redcat bisa bikin animasi nya pasti keren banget😍😍😍

  • @idaayuputusanthidewi3683
    @idaayuputusanthidewi3683 4 года назад

    Thank you Archie, you're the best

  • @Fakhiramumtaza
    @Fakhiramumtaza 4 года назад

    ahhh i want to make webtoon and i found this vid. This is so helpful thanksss!!!

  • @solarium7887
    @solarium7887 5 лет назад +3

    This video help me a lot thank you,good vidéo and your voice is so cute !!!!

  • @semi_enigma
    @semi_enigma 3 года назад

    I have been making a comic for about a year, I've been really stumbling along but I want to try implementing these tips!!

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  3 года назад +1

      Im if this helps you, wish you the best for your comic!!

  • @reginaindriani7348
    @reginaindriani7348 5 лет назад

    Aaa makasi bgt ka archi nge bantu bgt ini parah ToT

  • @mangocafeart
    @mangocafeart 4 года назад

    I think this video will help me a lot. Thanks so much!

  • @liachocolia2589
    @liachocolia2589 4 года назад

    oh i read your webtoon before i watch your video XD such a coincidence x3

  • @ohhSuki
    @ohhSuki 4 года назад

    I don’t know you but because I want to create my own webtoon I’m here ! Thank you for the video, you are sooo cute 🤩😁

  • @blossomsspring5875
    @blossomsspring5875 4 года назад

    Thank you so much for this video !! It helped a lot

  • @logancupz5237
    @logancupz5237 5 лет назад

    kak bikin vlog ruang kerjanya donk, pengen liat gmn xD semangat terus dalam berkarya ya kak 😆

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      Waduhhh berantakan, malu liatinnya juga, musti beberes dulu ini haha

  • @riristarrie
    @riristarrie 5 лет назад

    I plan on making a webtoon in the future, this will be very useful to look back from :) It really helps, thanks!

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      AyameIshKawaii Im very glad, good luck on your webtoon

    • @riristarrie
      @riristarrie 5 лет назад

      @@archietheredcat Thank you! Although I am not confident at the moment but I hope one day I can, in years time. I only planned a plot so far.

  • @naimcahrembang1507
    @naimcahrembang1507 5 лет назад

    Thanks Author Saya jadi paham gimana Harus sabar buat satu episode Yang sangat lama

  • @ruby_fireleader
    @ruby_fireleader 4 года назад

    Omg eggnoid is my favorite webtoon wow thanks for the advice!!

  • @flutosan7764
    @flutosan7764 5 лет назад +3

    Your voice is so cute qwq

  • @guadaluperosasrojas235
    @guadaluperosasrojas235 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this video, very useful to have an idea to make a webcomic, Now I understand where to start.

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      Guadalupe Rosas Rojas yeaaay and thak you for watching, good luck for your webcomic

  • @kimmshuuchan
    @kimmshuuchan 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the tip because I started to work on mine and plus I love your webtoon comic so much! It's amazing.

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад

      Thank you so much! And goodluck for your webtoon okay

    • @user-bf9jt3mr7w
      @user-bf9jt3mr7w 5 лет назад

      Arianna KimChi what’s it called? I’d love to support.

  • @Tu.dutra23
    @Tu.dutra23 3 года назад

    So cute🌟

  • @tasyfamnn
    @tasyfamnn 5 лет назад

    Thankyou Archiee 💕

  • @zsmall
    @zsmall 4 года назад

    Thank you, this was so informative!

  • @lOllO_GaluhAlFaruq_C
    @lOllO_GaluhAlFaruq_C 4 года назад

    kak banyakin tips and trick ya kak...

  • @f4y68
    @f4y68 5 лет назад

    I love you eggnoid 😘😘😘😘😘. Mwahhh aku ngefans sama kirana

  • @Bngbyc12345
    @Bngbyc12345 4 года назад

    Thank you so much that was realy helpfull!!!💙

  • @kyoshuko20
    @kyoshuko20 5 лет назад

    ASTAGAAA IMUT BANGET SUARANYA KAKK >W

  • @kikeluzi
    @kikeluzi 3 года назад

    ✨😔🙏✨ Thank you for sharing your knowledge, master

  • @louera
    @louera 4 года назад

    Thank youuuu!! This was so helpfulll!! :”)

  • @rm-hr1yx
    @rm-hr1yx 4 года назад

    your voice is so cute >

  • @minako-chan1420
    @minako-chan1420 4 года назад

    Aww thank you so much! This helped a lot!

  • @sumandeepsingh9115
    @sumandeepsingh9115 4 года назад

    so helpful

  • @obara7366
    @obara7366 5 лет назад

    Thank you for making this!

  • @aboveus5438
    @aboveus5438 5 лет назад

    Thank you, this means a lot

  • @rock_arts121
    @rock_arts121 3 года назад

    very helpful

  • @viflorbloop9819
    @viflorbloop9819 4 года назад

    thanksss, this will help me a lott

  • @steponestudio7771
    @steponestudio7771 5 лет назад +1

    Reminds me of the first time you taught me about panelling from our letter exchange XD

  • @flutosan7764
    @flutosan7764 5 лет назад

    This is so helpful thank you qwq

  • @stephystuff2955
    @stephystuff2955 4 года назад +1

    I am soooooo confused on the size! I'm seeing some people have a long comic, while others split them up. Can you show how it looks before you upload it to webtoonz?

  • @riznanazwapelangi1498
    @riznanazwapelangi1498 5 лет назад

    Ka archi semoga sehat selalu yah semoga ALLAH selalu melindungi dan menjaga ka archi dlm keadaan apapun dan dimanapun,makasih udah membuat aku terhibur dengan EGGNOID,berkat ka archi aku semangat tanpa sosok papah disini:" semua terinspirasi dri EGGNOID ka archi harus selalu semangatttt dan selalu jaga kesehatan❣enttah terharu pengen ketemu sesekali sma ka archi dan mau peluk sambil bilng "makasih udah bikinn semangat karna webtoon EGGNOID ,itu adalah komik yg aku baca pertama kali dri kls 6 baca smpe skrng :' " kaaaa aku sayang ka archi insyallah doaku selalu menyertai ka archi:") pokoknya semangatt teruss insyallah aku bakalsetia jdi pembaca EGGNOID krna itu komik pertama yg aku cintai dari kecil smpe mau meranjak remaja💕,meskipun aku ga punya sosok eggy dikehidupanku tpi ka archi udh seperti eggy yg selalu ada❣ahh pokoknya ilovvyou ka aku ngetik smbil netes air mata serius gabohong:'❣💕💞

    • @archietheredcat
      @archietheredcat  5 лет назад +1

      Terimakasih banyak ya Rizna semoga terus semangat dan kuat selalu menjalani hidup, Tuhan pasti akan selalu menyertai, semoga Rizna sukses selalu dan juga sehat yaa, terimakasih

  • @sxgisa777
    @sxgisa777 5 лет назад +2

    Ur voice so cute eeee!!

  • @lem0n_candy700
    @lem0n_candy700 4 года назад

    Omg Archie the red cat T ♡T

  • @orcalus
    @orcalus 5 лет назад

    this is so helpful! thanks so much

  • @rakatb8381
    @rakatb8381 5 лет назад

    ty so much !

  • @janna5191
    @janna5191 4 года назад

    EGGNOID!!!