The TRUTH About The Dam In Frozen 2
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
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Today J dives into the world of Disney’s Frozen to discuss the Alta Dam Controversy and how it inspired the events of Frozen 2!
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Every time you give us a thumbs up a Narwhal gets its horn! (maybe..)
I was expecting a elaborate fan theory, but "fascinating and relevant history lesson" works too!
Same, learned a lot. Got sad at the end when there wasn’t an announcement for Friday trivia tho :/ maybe next weekend!
Kip Sparks they’re still doing it they said so in the Tuesday video
@@kspar7 ok
Being norwegian I already knew
@mrgabeabator ?
alternate title: Norwegian history for 12 minutes. I was honestly expecting that the trolls hypnotized the king into attacking the natives for reasons
Lol same
It wasn't said that the trolls DIDN'T pull the strings.....
Sammmme
As a Norwegian, I can confirm that the Norwegian government was being extremely racist and trying to destroy the Sami people's culture and way of life for a long time. There are still some problems that might remain.
I’m black and my dream is to live in Norway...
👄👁👄
No shocker that in the US we have that same problem over and over. The government always put its interests over the lives of indigenous people.
You know that our goverment is centerd in the south, and dosent give a DAM about the northern norway. In fact the mid point of norway is in northen norway.
@@svenskenognorsken6097 WORD.
As a Norwegian, I love how we always write as a Norwegian. We are adorable if I can say so my self😂
Missed opportunity to call this episode “The Dam Truth”
True
Dont give him ideas
Percy Jackson joke
Yes.
@@HexenkoeniginVonAngmar ya
More like Inside joke tho
I just got a 12 minute history lesson that I had no idea I needed
Yeah. It goes to show that a lot of indigenous people everywhere are often marginalized
Percy Jackson fans when they see the title:
DAM *laughs*
That is what I was thinking. It makes me laugh every single time
It was pretty dam funny
Yes that part in the book is hilarious
I wonder if Arendelle has a dam snack-bar? Or maybe some dam t-shirt. I'm sure the queen wants some dam french-fries.
Jen Santspree
Make them DAM blue French fries
The king only attacks because the tribe leader became aware of the kings plan and wanted to talk about fixing it.
Are you trying to say he has a reason that will help people?
@@lueur4834 Who are you referring to as "he"? The king or the tribe leader?
I have been tricked this is a history lesson
WHY DOES THIS HAVE THIS MANY LIKES
Same.. lol
Does that mean no history for this year!!? Lol!
I made it 700
Jackofalltrades 177 if you don’t like history lessons, then don’t watch “ simbas magic roar explained”.
Avatar theory: What happens if an entire elemental race gets wiped out? Like what if Aang died? After fire would it just skip to water, would the cycle be broken and end, or would it just force an air bender to be born from anyone?
I just want to know how more sky bison came about.
@@bryciebee9651 It's explained briefly in Legend of Korra. A herd of them was secretly hidden, protected and bred throughout the war.
Brycie Bee THANK YOU I’ve been wondering the same thing for years!!
They are already missing the best Capitan Planet power "Heart". It is the ability to talk to animals and use empathy/telepathy to make animals/people do whatever you want them to do. Emotion Bending?
J: The truth about the dam in Frozen 2
Percy Jackson fans:
The dam battle 😀
HEEEEEEEY. Are you another one!?!
Where's the dam snack bar?
Interesting fact. My cat Bianca is sleeping on my shoulder and my cat Nico is sleeping in the chair beside me
Will Weichman
I think it’s over there *points*
What does everyone want from the DAM snack bar?
J: ice joke about Ben's ice
Ben: ........was that a jab at me?
J: hehe yeah
Can't stop laughing 🤣
😂😂🤣🤣🤣
“The truth about the dam in frozen two”
No one:
Litterally no one:
Not a soul:
Anyone:
PJO fans: *DAM*
I just wanted some dam snacks!
Where is the dam bathroom?
YESSS
Yeah.
I want to get a dam tee shirt! 🤣🤣
“Was that a jab at me?”
I love this channel lol
Same lol
Hehe yeah
1:09 Man school started *ALREADY* I don't remember getting J as a teacher though...
lol
Where I live, school started about a month ago :(
@@DeltaYT_Aarav dam bro......my school starts the thirty first
can j be my regular teacher
@@pennylane4718 ikr!!
The truth being that the wall's destruction should have led to Arandelle's destruction to be satisfying.
I really can't understand why they didn't show a disaster leading to the deaths of thousands of innocent people in a kid's film.
PlatinumAltaria well the people had already evacuated, so the flood would have been super satisfying.
@@planet_person9753 Property damage is also a bad thing, I'm starting to think you guys have a problem.
PlatinumAltaria but revenge is good.
@@PlatinumAltaria
But Elsa ex Machina with physics so bad at least 3 animators have to have died from shame is better?
Not having a viable reason for the Northuldra and people of Arendelle to work together now is... better?
Taking away the weight of Anna's decision is better?
What?
The King didn’t just discard his plan with the dam though, the leader of the Northuldra recognised that it was bad for his people and wanted the King to take the dam down again which is why the King had to switch plans instead of waiting for the dam to weaken the Northuldra
I remember a funny pun that would work with this:
A fish swam into a wall and said DAM!
But the real question is
Where's the dam snack bar?
KN a a fellow person of culture
K N I want a dam t-shirt
How is thy funny?
Lol
Every one already made the Percy Jackson joke....
Dam it
IK!
I'm.. too dam late.
YES
i still love it. does no one still have their heart break when they think of zoe?
like this if u do
l
v
PJO fans every time “Dam” is said
**haha, funny, laugh**
YES
I have a question. You’ve probably already covered it. It’s Harry Potter. In POA, when Petigrew becomes human, he’s dressed. But when he turns back into a rat to escape, he leaves a pile of clothes. And what did the ministry think of the left behind clothes?
They were probably destroyed in the explosion Pettigrew created to frame Sirius.
@@karlrovey This is in POA timeline. When he's in the Shrieking Shack and turns from rat to man, he's clothes (thankfully). But when Lupin starts to change, Peter changes into a rat again shrinking into his clothes and running off leaving behind a pile of laundry.
@@lisaa6755 And no one goes to the shrieking shack. Even if the ministry did investigate, they wouldn't even consider the clothes. If they were competent investigators, Sirius wouldn't have gone to Azkaban inn the first place, Hagrid would have never been expelled, and Harry wouldn't have had to have a trial in Order of the Phoenix.
Karl Rovey don’t get me started on Hagrid getting expelled. When Voldemort becomes a thing, how does they not look back to when Tom Riddle framed Hagrid. But even if the ministry doesn’t care about the clothes, why leave them when he changes back to a rat? It’s just an inconsistency to consider.
When u watch a Disney theory video but all the comments are Percy Jackson puns
😁
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I live in Massachusetts and there is a reservoir called the Quabbin reservoir. During the construction of it, they had to flood the towns of Dana, Enfield, Greenwich and Prescott. The entire reservoir is 38.6 square miles.
When you’re so early all the comments are about how early you are and the fact that there are no views
Rightt
I wouldnt have almost fallen asleep in history today if you were my history teacher. This is way more interesting
I think J’s jokes are getting more “dad” like. And I’ve got to say, I’m here for it ! Lol
It’s because of his sons
Can we get a whole video on Mother Gothel? Like her past, how she knew the flowers song, etc.
I think there's a pre-existing one about how mother gothel is secretly Meg from Hercules, it might be called "the truth about Meg" or something??
Daviana Marcus No I think it’s Yzma is Meg but I’m not sure.
@@swirlingsun wasn't there a theory about how she was secretlt Evil Queen? Idk of they did a vid on it, but ik someone did
Have you seen Tangled: The Series? It acts as the sequel to Tangled. It's really good, I'd definitely recommend it. And, it covers more of Gothel's backstory
@@arianarain7749 FOR REAL! It’s an amazing show and deserves more popularity 😢
this actually happened in wales when the flooded a village to create a reservoir for liverpool but the welsh government provided houses for those made homeless because of the "sacrifice" they had made (they didn't have a choice )
I had to learn that one from Netflix (the Crown series)...
Last time I was this early the Dam hadn’t been built yet
I know that was weak but hey couldn’t think of anything else
I find it interesting how the writers found a real world problem with writing about the dam for the movie of frozen 2. I find it quite nice to hear the history of things.
Wait a second J let me go get Annabeth so she can listen to about the Dam lol only Percy Jackson fans get this
😂😂😭
I thought this was about Percy Jackson at first...
Me too
I'm really sad that Annabeth's not here to listen to about the Dam
The king attacked because the Northudral leader worked it out.
Question - Northudral are the "people of the sun"...do they know about the sun flower used in Tangled???
Im from Alta! I was wondering when you’d do a video on this.
The history of the Sápmi people and the norwegian government is truly devastating. Less then a 100 years ago they still did tests on the Sápmi people’s brains and sculls to find “what was wrong with them”. The government didn’t let sápmi kids speak their mother tongue in school, causing the language to nearly die. Today students will often get payed to learn sàpmi so we can keep the language alive. There’s still racism towards the sàpmi people in Norway today. I strongly encourage you to watch “sameblod” on netflix if you want to learn more about why so many Norwegian/Sàpmi people can’t speak sàpmi anymore. «Kautokeino-opprøret» is also a good movie about the death of two well known sàpmi men, but i don’t know how you’d watch it outside scandinavia tho:( You pronounced Màze perfectly btw😂
Lilac Penguin Yeah, It’s very normal for people in the north of Norway to not know they’re sàpmi because their ancestors had to hide their identity and stop speaking the language. I’m not sàpmi my self but it’s a goal of mine to learn to speak it someday!
You missed such a great moment!! You could have introduced it as "TODAY WE LEARN THE DAM TRUTH"
Missed opportunity man missed opportunity
I guess we're finally getting the dam truth?
...
I'll see myself out...
But we're not gonna talk about how the trolls did the same thing to him as they did Hans to manipulate the situation/future?
Maybe they were doing what was best at that point in time as they were children and their parents were a little younger....when their dad was the King and the law for magic was still in place.
Which leads to me wondering why he didn't just kick that law for his time of rule, unlike Elsa and Anna's grandfather.
This teached me more about Sami history than in school (I'm Norwegian) keep it up and you pronounced Finnmark rigth 👍🏻
It’s seems the Northuldra people have a DAM problem at hand...
Where are my PJO fans at?
Here
Here! I am a dam demigod
Yes
Here
You got a dam demigod right here
Hej J! I've been waiting to see if someone would bring up Frozen's Sámi history references, and I got so excited when I saw this video!! I did want to quickly clarify that Finnmark county is not the *only* place where Sámi live. My people cover an area of land called "Sápmi", which makes up about 2/3 of Norway, half of Sweden, and the upper parts of Finland and Eastern Russia. It's a lot larger than most people think! Unfortunately, We are still dealing with the government trying to destroy our herding lands to this day--but We have some really great activists working hard to conserve indigenous land rights 😊 Also, giitu(thank you) for not using the "L" word in reference to my people like so many others do. It hurts to see such a derogatory term still being widely used, and it means a lot to hear you use our proper name❤💚💛💙
What L word?
@@marthataylor3565 It's what a lot of people used to call us. It's derogatory, so I'd rather not write it out, but it's really easy to google. It has the word "land" in it, if that helps.
❤️💚💛💙duohta!!
@@kristine1064 😉🤩❤
Haha i’m laughing at the fact the PJO fans will always make jokes about anything dam related 😂😂
We will always dam dam jokes
Dam I was going to comment this😔
YES
I didn’t see this joke in the comment section anywhere, “It’s the dam truth!” 😂😂😂😂
YESSSSSS
Percy Jackson fan or just had the same idea?
Full glad am I that you decided to talk more about this history. Even in Norway there seem to be a lot of people who have forgotten about that struggle, so getting it out into the world is good.
I have also more history from Norway if you want to read it (I'll leave them very short, and very little summarised so you'd have to read up more to get even the bigger picture, but here it goes).
1st. part: How did Norway become a christian country.
One Viking king, King Olav the Holy, decided he needed a legitimate way to claim that he was the rightful king and made a partnership with the church to legitimise him as Gods chosen. He then travelled throughout Norways long coast line, and basically said: "Do you accept God as your new Lord?". And if you said yes, you were fine, if you refused however you were rewarded with your throat getting cut. He didn't force the Sami to do the same because Vikings respected their connections with the various spirits.
2nd. part: Norway now as a part of a Swedish-Norwegian forced union, thought it was time to teach the Sami about modern life and in so doing make the christians.
They sent priests up to Northern Norway, Finnmark to be more precise, and gave them authority over the Sami people. That way they could stalk and criminalise Sami-culture, for so to imprison or punish those that didn't want to become christians. This led to the Kautokeino uprising which was unfortunately knocked down, and led to 5 people getting the death penalty but where'as only two of them were executed in Alta by beheading. They even had to have 50 armed infantrymen there to keep the peace during the execution as it was done publicly.
3rd. part: Modern Norway and their current ruling party, decided that in order to give more power to the people they took away more of the local politician activity in various counties by forced mergers.
This also was forced on the counties Troms and the county Finnmark, which was joined together to one massive county called "Troms og Finnmark"-county. But by centralising the political powerhouse in the north that county now has less control over the everyday dealing of the people, and the county is suffering because of it. And to top it all off, there have been talk now to reverse that forced change because of it being hugely unpopular. Heck the landmass of the Troms-Finnmark counties are vastly bigger than most counties down south, and if I remember correctly you could fit all of the southern counties into the landmass of those northern ones, yet in south they still have after the forced unionisation still has 5-6 counties.
Also don't believe most of the maps that show that Troms-Finnmark is smaller then the southern body of Norway, because that is not telling the truth. Just look at the size difference there are from how it looks in a globe to how it looks on a flat map. The land masses are Troms-Finnmark: 74 829.68km², and the counties Oslo, Rogaland, Møre og Romsdal, Viken, Agder and Vestland: 99 084.54km². And they are 6 counties against 1!
3rd.part: tl;dr: I'm disgruntled Northern Norwegian feeling that Northern Norwegians are still belittled by our southern countrymen. And it's not really as historically important like the other 2 points.
Full comment: Tl;Dr: Thank you for making this video and shining light on the struggle that was the Alta controversy.
I love that half the comments r from dam percy jackson fans
Actually you're wrong
Its because there was no dam snack bar
Today is Thursday. I see J on my screen. Something ain’t right. It’s Ben’s day, isn’t it. J is Tuesdays. Ben is Thursdays.
That was the first thing I thought when I saw the video!
H-hey Ben...h-have you tried boiling the ice?
He said he did and it didn’t work
This video should have been called
"The dam truth of frozen 2"
Also I would love to see some percy jackson content on your channel!
These 2 things are entirely unrelated.
"It's true, my bills really are piling up,"
- the Phoenix, Mr. Bob
Wow, that was super interesting! We have quite a similar story in Italy, although it doesn’t have a happy ending. In the late ‘50s former national energy agency built a dam in the Vajont valley, taking away land from the local people without even noticing them. They needed to build as fast as possible to meet some political deadlines so they skipped the geological surveys. As the dam began being filled earthquake activity increased and cracks formed on the mountain right behind the dam. Some geologists stated that a massive landslide was being triggered and that the filling had to be stopped. The locals protested, people were arrested and the filling continued. On the night of October the 9th 1963 the landslide was triggered and basically half of the mountain fell right into the lake. A massive wave (much like the one in frozen 2) passed the dam without breaking it and flooded the town of Longarone, killing thousands of people. It was impossible for me not to link that scene in the movie with what happened, but apparently I am the only one in the whole country 😅
This is why I love this channel. We get to learn things that otherwise we would never even know in the first place
My favourite RUclips channel back at it again with the Frozen theories😁
I'm so glad that Ben's ice game is still on point, because j has to make jabs at it to build himself up (sry j)
no one:
ben and j: sure sure sure
Anytime this channel uploads I just smile
Dang - came for theory; stayed for the theory AND the cultural history lesson on my own people. Don't really know how to pronounce Maze (the native name of the town) either but in Norwegian it's Masi, which you actually pronounced perfectly so well done. The words "elva skal leve" literally translates to "the river SHALL" or "WILL live" - by demand, threatening active opposition if necessary. Far as I kow, it never came to violence though.
I’d like to see more of these kinds of videos! I really enjoy learning more in depth about real events that inspired something in disney movies
Anyone else miss "THESE SOCKS ARE AMAZING" at the end of videos
Ah, so we get to learn the truth about the... *dam thing*.
Came here to say I love y'all. You guys make me happy. Also, bring back the old intro. I used to dance to that stuff😅😅😅
RUclips: 28 views, 51 comments, and 37 likes.
Me: Something isn’t lining up 🤔😂
I know, I was just making a joke.
SIDDHARTH DHAMAT Lol jokes can be confusing sometimes
SBC posts a video about dams
Me: Hot dam!
This one was more of a history lesson than a theory and I gotta say I’m here for it!
Thanks for this video. I was annoyed by the lack of exploration of the Northaldra in Frozen 2. Loved all the songs and Elsa’s growth and Anna going Queen (that was so obvious) but expected more intro and involvement of the newer characters. Like the Sami story it felt like the movie was doing more petting and lip service and while giving them something also punished them. Idk.
The same people have historically been treated badly all over Scandinavia, and I for one never heard much about it in school (in Sweden). I knew about the same from a very young age, and I knew they hadn’t always been treated the best, but just how bad their rights has been repressed only came up once in one class in like 10th grade (other people might have different experiences though, I guess especially if you live further north and closer to the same)
Hej
I was just watching your other videos!!! I’ve been on a Harry Potter binge 😁
can HE be my history teacher instead of my current one cause that was interesting
When you're so early it says no views but 30 comments
55 seconds ago and NO VIEWS? I’ve never seen this before. This isn’t even notif squad this is “I refreshed and it was in my subs” squad. 😂 Can’t wait to watch this.
The Villains wil ALWAYS win if they are smart or logical, and that will ruin the movie
And will ruin real life apparently...
How did Rapunzel not notice mother Gothel never getting older?
I thought he had the dam built to weaken the land so that the spirits would also be weakened. Weakening the people in the process too, he could easily defend them by force...
But I loved that it has a real world history lesson!
There was actually a similar thing that happened to the welsh village of tryweryn in the 50s, the village was located in a valley in north wales and Swansea decided to build a reservoir in said valley. Despite the protests of the village, the reservoir was in fact built and many people lost their homes. If you’ve ever seen the words ‘cofiwch tryweryn’ in white letters on a red background, it originates from a grafitti memorial created by the protesters after the reservoir was completed.
(I’m welsh and we learn about this in school, it’s actually really interesting)
Vote for scb to be the history teachers for the whole world. I never knew a history lesson could be so interesting!
There's a town near me that is at risk by a dam. But if they build it I'll basically have lake front property.
Possible future video: your take on whether or not the Nokk killed Anna and Elsa's parents? We know their ship went down in the same waters that the Nokk was guarding. I personally believe it's plausible (after all, he nearly killed Elsa before she learned how to control him), but it's been pointed out that he may not have been "awake" at that point, since Elsa awakens the spirits at the end of Into the Unknown, years after her parents die. Anyway, curious to know your take! :)
Just a small correction: The Sami are native to the Scandinavian Peninsula in specific, not Scandinavia. There aren't a history of Sami in Denmark, but plenty in Finland and I think parts of Russia?
I never understood hunger strikes..
"I'm going to teach you a lesson!! I'm going to not eat something today.. That'll learn ya!"
I mean.. If someone chooses not to eat, why is that my problem? Why should someone simply choosing to not eat sway my mind on anything? Eventually they'll either get too hungry and eat in which case.. I win. Or they'll get sick and pass out because of lack of nutrition, and be sent to the hospital in which case.. I still win.
Is it supposed to be that I feel sorry for the people who refuse to eat so I bend to their will? Why would I feel sorry for someone else's lack of better judgement? They're CHOOSING not to eat. They're not being forced to not eat. It's a conscious effort on their part. Why should I care at that point?
Newspapers. Or, really, any medium that relies on visual storytelling.
It creates a striking image of suffering, especially the longer that it goes on. It becomes a stark metaphor for someone suffering due to the neglect or inaction of others. And, psychologically, it strips away any nuance from an issue, framing the hunger strikers as the good guys (they’re not harming anyone but themselves) and the targets of the strike as the bad guys (it’s almost always framed as ‘bargain with us and we’ll stop the strike’, so it makes the targets of the strike seem unreasonable and heartless).
But yes, if you can control the narrative (or you just don’t need public support) then you can ignore it. Of course, if you have any opposition... well then your plan is basically a recipe for ‘how to lose power in three easy steps’.
In 2019, Norway sent a group called keiino to the Eurovision Song Contest, featuring a Sámi ‘joiker’- representing Sámi culture on a global stage, where it won the popular televote, and came 6th overall (there’s also jury points that contribute). It’s worth a listen to if you have the time, it’s very fun and powerful, about the struggles and self-empowerment of marginalised groups
He should have made a joke about the northaldran people not giving a dam 3:44
just FYI King Runeard attacks the Northuldra leader because the Northuldra realizes something is wrong with the dam
Everyone who read the Percy Jackson series be like: ARE YOU KIDDING? WE ARE DAM EXCITED ABOUT DAMS!!!
Are you KIDDING me! I had a family and spent a month in that village (Maze/Masi) and I never expected to hear this story here!
In other words, we learn the dam truth.
😂😂😂
4:02 Wait... if both sides of the river connect to the ocean, then how did building the dam raise the water's level by so much? Wouldn't both sides just stay at sea level?
LOVE YOU GUYS!!
Fun fact, the people who made frozen 2 had no idea who the voice was going to be for most of development and even almost cut "show yourself" several times. Making the voice elsa was a very last minute decision after most of the movie was already made. This is all talked about in the behind the scenes documentary series which is very good and I would highly recommend.
Will you soon cover theories like Captain Hook killing Ariel s mom and the Evil Queen and Mother Gothel being the same person! 😊
Evil queen and mother gothel are not the same person! That is a really poor theory and there is soooo much evidence against it!!! As for the other one, that theory is good!
Chloe Senior I agree that while there are not many bits of evidence, it isn’t much to go into but it would be fun seeing J and Ben’s thoughts on it 😀
Syed Ali Hasan True!
Hold on, since when did J upload on Thursday?
Hi guys love your vids that is all
LOVE THIS CHANNEL
why did you get rid of the always poster??? that was mean
Can you see what it was replaced with
This video is SO SIMILAR to a true story in my own country! I'm Welsh and there is a lake in North Wales that used to be a village called Tryweryn (Google it) but was flooded to make a 'water supply' for Liverpool in England. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND you read this if you were interest in this video.
There has been centuries of persecution and marginalization of the Welsh and its language by the English going back hundreds and hundreds of years (although has improved is the past few decades). Wales is a country rich in legand and history, this is one of its many tragedies.
In the 1960s, there was village in North Wales called Tryweryn, right next to Liverpool in England and the Liverpool government wanted to flood the village to make a 'water supply' for the people of Liverpool. Tryweryn is a valley, so perfect for what the English wanted to achieve. However, generations of families lived in this village. There were schools, shops, churches, communities. Imagine your entire community being kicked out of where you lived, like that.
So the Welsh protested in Liverpool city centre for days, pleading the English not to flood their village. But this request was denied and they flooded it anyway. And the irony is, Liverpool have yet to use the water of this lake for their people.
This is one of the many stories of the English trying to suppress the Welsh people and language.
However, similar to this video, it has had a pretty good legacy. This outrageous event sparked protest and demands for justice accross the country. Since then, Welsh has (after HUNDREDS of years) been made the national language of its own country, and the Welsh government is now promoting people to learn the language. More and more people are learning the language and its history and ledgands live on.
Thanks for reading this if you've made it this far!
It's a lot common to build dams in areas of indinous people for control and just not caring at all. Here in Brazil it happened more than once.
The US government has done this to Natives too. My tribe lost one of its main food sources, salmon, because of a dam built for hydro-electrics. I LOVED the messaging in Frozen II.
Love your dad jokes Jonathan! 😁
I absolutely LOVE that you guys are including more Geology lessons and puns!! Gneiss job!
Jonathan Carlin,
Not a Scandinavian history scholar, lover of beanbag chairs
I still can't believe I started watching your videos few years ago when I barely knew any english at all and only got trough them with subtitles on but now I can just listen to them and do other things and still understand every word 😭
Honestly Anna’s decision to immediately break the dam annoys me. Like the people in the forest have waited many years, they can wait at least a week so the towns people could go get important belongings and livestock. They could even have had taken measures to make sure the flood wasn’t as bad before breaking the dam. Like I said, the people trapped in the forest have waited about 30 years so surely they can wait a little longer.
No, they couldn't have. Elsa would have been lost for good. And, the people were evacuated to the cliffs by the spirits for this very reason.
Caroline Prince also they couldn't get outta the forest until the fog was lifted
@@arianarain7749 Oh yes!! I'd forgotten that. The fog had trapped them there.
11:25 (full context 11:15-11:20) imagine some earth spirit going like:
"screw this, I don't want to be a rock! I want to throw rocks at dams!"