Bahahaha this is so well said, I am middle class I make good money but I would feel terrible spending my savings on a rolex meanwhile I love me some luxury items for the fraction of the price, I meanly just want the look and live in my self made delusion that I can afford a rolex lol, I bought a master rep cartier bracelet from china it was not cheap I paid $700 it was real gold and literally was identical to the real one, my baby sister is more fortunate than I am she had a husband who spends $$ on her we compared them she was mad that my bracelet was only $700🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was delusional before, thinking only China could make replicas, but now I know even Italy and Switzerland make them too, and ZiaRex is their representative.
Wearing a fake Rolex doesn't hurt Rolex one bit. In fact, it helps make their brand seem even more desirable. If you want to hurt Rolex, just start wearing a Casio. A $30 watch that keeps better time than a $30,000 Rolex does.
Yes I have a casio gulfmaster their higher end model around 500 bucks. It uses satellite and rests time at 2am to it. The most accurate watch you can get. The us cost guard grads get them fro graduation. Incrediable watch.
I agree, I think it actually helps Rolex. I owned 3 or 4 fake Rolex’s from being a kid / teen to young adult, now I have owned 2 real ones. Still have a couple of the fakes that collect dust but the obsession finally worked my way up to the real deal
You want a Swiss watch, ETA makes quartz movements that keep within ten seconds a year. A VERY few Swiss makers use them in a few watches. Nobody wants them! They want inaccurate mechanical watches!
I purchased my Rolex Submariner (ref. 16613, new) in 1998 from a USA AD. My wife took it to a premier boutique in Switzerland (hint: the one now owned by Rolex) for servicing and she was told that my watch was a fake. The watch inspector at the counter really embarrassed my wife...made her feel like a criminal in front of a handful of other patrons. In any event, my wife stood her ground and requested that a more experienced staff member review the watch, along with the purchase papers and insurance documents. Of course, that senior expert validated the watch as authentic and had it sent to Geneva for servicing. Eight weeks later, the serviced watch was returned...along with an invoice for $1100. Seems to me that the so-called "professionals" have a hard time authenticating the real watches, too! Especially the older watches...you know...the ones bought under the assumption that Rolex quality delivered something special over one's lifetime. That treatment taught me one good lesson...never to buy another Rolex.
@@davidweisschadel "superlative chronometer officially certified" losing upwards of 4 seconds a day. This is miles from my Citizen quartz watch that costs maybe 10% of the Rolex
@@davidweisschadel I can drop my Casio quartz on cement and no problems everything is still running fine. Dropping my Rolex day-date on carpet killed the watch.
I've heard about this rather pathetic retail policy only a few weeks ago, it's hard to believe, so they have the NERVE to look at a potential buyer straight in the eye and say we ain't selling you the Rolex you want and can pay for right now, until we 'develop a relationship with you' (WHAT?) so here, buy this 10K TAG Heuer and we go from there, don't call us, we call you'. A relationship? you want to be my girlfriend or something? you keep your watch and your ridiculous games, I'll take my $50,000 somewhere else, I'll probably get a gorgeous Omega and you won't see me ever again. Jesus...
Sad but true. I only go to Rolex only boutiques for that reason. 2 years, still no call. And don’t even asking for a Sub, GMT, Daytona. But I live in a giant metropolis with tons of rich people. Oh, well.
More reasons to buy replicas. This actually hurts Rolex despite the contrary because now everyone thinks any rolex is fake even real ones. Same happened with Louis Vuitton. So all the idiots with 10k rolex, most people probably think is a fake
@@naegleriafowleri2230Yeah, but you don't even know if the Rolex online is actually authentic, or not. So you could just be throwing $30,000-$60,000 away. Might as well just buy a rep at that point, save the money, and go on vacation with your rep lol
Submariner MSRP, £9100, unobtainable. Realistic price to a normal punter, £13000. Top end replica no one is calling out, £450. Looks like a no brainier to me.
This sounds like my kind of party, although I found out that the quality has gotten up to AAAAAAAA that may even cost up to $1500 $2000 which is insane but it’s better than paying $20.000. I only want a good watch that none dares to call out I post on IG and people have the audacity to zoom into a photo in order to start calling out your fake item, I was called out on a Fake LV bag that was years ago before I doscovered the master reps options and it was just terrible I had to delete that IG lol
Then honestly, don't post with the watch or bag online. Or buy Citizen, Seiko and Tudor, you don't have to spend thousands to look like a million bucks. I'll wear a fucking trash invicta that I own, and people will compliment me.
@@vandalg282 what? I have several Seiko watches, a couple of Casio's, I sold my Tudor 'cause I never wore it. I have a couple of genuine older Rolex, a five figure Sub and a GMT. But they were all bought when you could walk into an AD that didn't have a bouncer on the door and you could just buy a watch. What are you talking about? I know dozens of people who own reps, I'd say 75% of them have £20k+ in genuine watches as well. But my daily wear right now is a replica Starbucks Rolex. It feels no different to a real Rolex, I know 'cause I've got two.
@@vandalg282 Dude could not agree more, posting phony luxury items to impress other losers on social media is beyond me. I personally own 3 rolexes, which is one of the things I enjoy collecting. I've worked hard to enjoy nice things, not because I need to flex on social media. Bought them for my enjoyment, not to impress others.
@@vandalg282Had to shoot a reply here, I have 6 Invictas because they're a legit $100 watch, so when I get a compliment it's legit and great. I'm looking to get into some replicas now, and being complimented will feel wrong but the watches look so good it's worth it anyways
People are having their luxury watches stolen off of their wrists would make wearing a replica a smart move. I do not condone replica watches as a rule, but letting the thieves steal your replica versus stealing your real watch is kind of a no-brainer. It's very sad that things have come to this.
@sircusboy351 no one gets close enough to my wrist to tell. I don't think I'll get killed at the grocery store or Olive Garden for any watch I wear..but I've been wrong before!
I purchased a $79 copy as a scare for my wife (I own 2 REAL Rolexes). It backfired because the charge went through before the watch arrived. But, the GMT Master II fake is unrecognizable from my real 126710 Pepsi except for the bracelet clasp. The magnification is correct and the bezel is as perfect as my eye and ear can tell. One very recognizable difference - the real Rolex loses about 20 seconds a day while the fake loses around 20 seconds a month.
My understanding is that Rolex were just everyday watches until the 60s and 70s. Many soldiers in Vietnam wore them, which they would hardly do if they had the availability and price we see today.
My friend was in Europe recently and purchased a 600 dollar fake Rolex. I know and understand the moral part of all this. I get it but it’s also a damn good watch that’s going to last him decades if he takes care of it properly. He took it to a Rolex distributor and the guy could barely recognize it as a fake. That’s amazing to me.
I hear the stories about bad experiences at AD’s, but personally I’ve experienced the opposite. Buying a fake anything isn’t the way to go in my opinion, I’d rather get a Tudor or Omega than spend towards a fake.
If you’ve handled Rolexes you’ll always be able to tell. Especially when you open the case back. They just ain’t there yet. That being said they are pretty great watches for the money
@@jonathonkennedy9321the top quality replica ranging $1-2k has real rolex pieces in it… u cant tell.. i have a video from a china factory showing the difference between a top superclone and a basic superclone without original parts
@@jonathonkennedy9321And this is a good point,,, if you can sift through all of the fakes in order to find the best of the best fake then you have probably found a very nice watch. But,,,, why put Rolex on it? It isn't a Rolex so why pretend that it is? It is not just the watch that is a fake,,,, the person wearing it is an even worse fake. Put your mother's name on it or one of your kids names. Whatever,,,, Stop desperately looking for false status and just be happy knowing that you have a quality watch on that is not pretending to be something that it isn't just for the sake of vanity and false flex. That is just sad.
Well said. Rolex could stop the salesmen from selling directly to their buddies who then flip them - but they won’t. But you left out 1 other reason people buy them: Rolex owners who are afraid of theft buy them. It’s like costume jewelry.
I lived in Beijing for 7 years and you could go into some of the pearl markets back then and there were "grades" of fakes whether you wanted LV, Rolex or something else. The high end fakes were masterful and the low end, fairly obvious if you knew the real brand. The high end Folex were almost indistinguishable as long as you werent trying to fake a Gold watch as the color of the metal was always off. The high end LV could only be shown to be fake if an LV store disassembled and looked for hidden tags and such that are secreted in the genuine product. I will never forget on my first trip to China, we were at a restaurant where the delicious dishes were USD $1.10 per plate. Yet, our waiter was wearing a Rolex? Huh? Then I jump into one of the super affordable, cheap taxi's and the driver is also wearing a Rolex? My local friend quickly gave me the lowdown that weekend when we visited some of the markets there. Tommy Bahama, The North Face, you name it. I loved living in China, doing business there was like the Wild Wild West was in America back in the day.
In Shanghai it was the Science & Technology (ironic) metro line 2 station, underground mall. The haggling was fun to watch. My buddy wanted to get 1 - he started leaving 3 times before he got his price.
A Rolex gmt master 2 would’ve cost about £2000 back in 2001-2002, 2012-14, -about £6k. In 2024, it retails for nearly £10k. Rolex definitely isn’t worth what it sells for.
Ive owned four recent Rolexes over the past few years and sold them because i wasnt thrilled with them aesthetically. I opted for a Blancpain, an IWC and a Cartier instead which i personally find more appealing. So if i rocked a fake Rolex. No one would think it was a fake and i would be the only one who knew. In short, i cant justify the money for a real one so wouldnt have a problem with it. It doesnt hurt Rolex. They basically dont give a shit about us or anyone anyway.
I agree with everything that you said. I actually have about 7 replicas of Rolex watches. And also have 2 genuine Rolex watches and a real omega.. i wear my replicas more than the genuine ones for a couple reasons. One is i don’t want to beat up my genuine watches with everyday wear! The other is i don’t like the way authorized dealers treat middle class people like myself who just want to buy one watch and not by thousands of dollars worth of stuff i don’t want just to get the watch i do want!!
A mugger won't have the nous to determine authenticity....so they're gonna harm you because you're wearing a fake, highly desired timepiece...sorry...don'r see the logic/reasoning behind that
You are right. I tried to purchase at an Authorized Dealer, went back over 10 different days and nothing. So I bought a "superclone".... It is so, so similar that nobody has doubted it is a genuine Rolex, so.... Do I want to spend another $15,000 or more to wear one that looks the same? I can purchase 3 superclones and they will last like new for a long time. Why is Rolex doing this?
To me it's no different than a "homage watch". The homage watch steals the design, the replica steals the design and logo. I used to have a replica Breitling that I bought on Canal St. in NY. I loved that watch.
At least an homage has plausible deniability, in that the branding, logo, and various dimensions and features are not exact to the original, which to me makes them perfectly valid because some homages punch WAY above their weight class, and even surpass some lower grade established brands, allowing you to have a champagne watch for lemonade money, whereas a fake basically stops trying to compete and merely allows you to be a dishonest poser with no honor or respect. Sure, an homage might be "lazy", but at least it isn't outright lying about what it is; sometimes the little changes can even improve on a design. And besides some of the best iconic models of all time have been known to conveniently crib features from each others' prior established models even to the early days of horology; the lesser brands are simply more open and honest about what they are doing. Now... what I would LIKE to see are hybrid designs that compare the best features of two or more iconic models from iconic brands and basically posit the question of that would a collaboration model between Rolex and Omega or Patek Philippe and Jaeger-LeCoultre look like? If you've watched ID Guy's channel, he has some theoretical videos that explore these ideas, and I'll tell ya what, if an homage brand produced any of those designs, they would SELL LIKE HOTCAKES; basically printing money by beating the Titans of Horology to the punch in fusing the best of both worlds together, and while the individual components would be close copies of their inspirations, the overall sum of the parts when combined would allow for a wholly unique design that they can lay legitimate claim to.
The replicas are beautiful and very good. BUT, I could not stand wearing it knowing it is a fake. Waiting for the real thing. Know all about the background check and waitlist. Worth it!
Lots of watches that are fake gold, Seiko manages to do a really good job with theirs. I use to think the same about Fake watches but with Rolex making it impossible to buy a watch from them, I don't care, buy a fake Rolex.
@@garylangford6755😂😂 you think life is fair? Rolex created scarcity to boost their brand value. They can go fuk themselves always rejecting potential customers. Wearing a replica is a big FU to them and the dumbasses who paid 10-15k for a watch that was probably manufactured for $500-1000 tops.
@@garylangford6755I really don't see why anyone would lose respect for themselves for buying a rep. Maybe you would, but other people have way different world views on what makes them feel respect for themselves.
@@WestCoastAce27I'm looking at my Rolex grail watch and it's almost $60,000 online. And I don't even know if it's real or not. It's a huge risk to take on something that could be a fake watch to begin with anyway.
I have a replica submariner (126610lv) that I’ve worn a few times which looks really solid except for a few extremely small details that from distance, even close, are barely noticeable. It does the trick for me as I personally can’t justify spending $15,000+ on a watch
Would never wear a fake rolex nor have I ever had the desire to. I own a rolex GMT and couldn't care less wether think is real or not, I know it is genuine, and that is all that matters.
Of course I would. Because a genuine isnt $15,000 worth of different. Probably wouldnt rock anything gold plated, or with fake diamonds. But something like a clone submariner, or Daytona. Hell yes.
Just for information purposes only as a regular watch buyer expect to pay $500 for a clone and around $1500 for a superclone rolex. The ones you are advertising are the new copies where Chinese,Turkish,Asian Street vendors have moved away from the cheap $30 copies and gone for the slightly better quality $120 types that are heavier,a bit better made and good for hand-to-eye viewing but are still subject to noticeable flaws.
Completely legal in most countries. If you’re selling, nope. If you're buying bulk, nope. If you’re carrying your own counterfeits, yes. If throughout the entire process there has been transparency and no scamming, it’s not illegal. Every country dictates its own rules, but if we’re taking an average, it’s not illegal to buy and own as much as it is to sell. People buy fake stuff either because they’re aware high quality fakes are often better made than the original luxury good (see Hermes Birkin bags and their shoddy QC compared to $1000 replicas made of the same stuff) or because they want onlookers to think they’re loaded. Sometimes, wealthy people in unsafe areas will prefer to wear high quality replica products to avoid theft and having to go through insurance.
I have a replica Hulk that was about $300. It keeps perfect time, looks exactly like the genuine one unless you open it up or look at it with a loop. To me, I'd rather have the extra $20K in my bank account and have the look of Rolex that works just fine. If I was super wealthy, I might feel differently, but as a middle class guy, I'm fine with owning a nice replica and a couple of genuine $3,000-$5,000 luxury watches like Breitling and Omega.
As long as they’re only available on the secondary market and thousands more than retail they’re going to lose money. I bought my first Rolex a few years ago and it’s definitely in need of attention. The bands worn, crystal is scratched and it loses a few minutes a day. The local Rolex dealer doesn’t have any of the entry level models available and I don’t want to buy pre owned. I’m supposed to be on a list with some in the coming months but I’m not going to hold my breath
I heard the lists aren't even really real. They just use it to collect your information so they can do background checks on you to make sure you're worthy of buying a Rolex.
I prefer homages instead of all-out fakes. Steeldive do an amazing submariner homage with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, solid end links, great bracelet, drilled lugs & a Seiko NH35 movement! All at the price of approximately £150! You'd be mad not to! Addiesdive, San Martin, Pagani, etc, all do amazing high quality homages at fantastic prices. To be honest, they beat a lot of the Seiko prospects range, with far better specs, also better QC. I am now waiting for my Steeldive SD1992 GMT, homage to the Rolex Explorer 2 GMT, & my Addiesdive SA2118, homage to a Grand Seiko. I can't wait, they are fully specced-out! Micro brands all the way from here! Thanks for your vid. Bless
People like me are considering replicas as they can’t get real ones. I’m not prepared to pay 5k over list on grey market and I like the designs. I registered at my ad at the weekend. Going to be waiting an age, but in the meantime replica will suffice
Yep, I wanted to get a gen 214270 (MSRP was $6550), had my name placed on a few wait lists a few years ago, never got the call, then Rolex discontinued it. The "new"/unworn ones are going for $12-15k on gray dealers and Chrono24, and the beat up ones are $2k over the OG MSRP. F- that!
4 years ago in Central Texas I bought a datejust41mm Jubalee 18k gold for 14.5k paid cash and had it in 8 business days. I was told by my colleagues that this was a phenomenon!
I think the whole culture of luxury watches is BS. The actual watches aren't worth it today. Because of pop culture and media, (music especially) people of all walks of life want luxury items regardless of whether they can afford them or not. So knockoffs are a thing because of that. Even if you are that super rich celebrity that has the real thing, it would be foolish to wear it everywhere. It would be smarter to keep the real watch hidden in a safe somewhere while you wear a replica when you're out in public. Do the same thing for expensive jewelry as well. Not wearing the real thing will help it to keep its value. If you wear that type of jewelry on a regular basis, you may cause wear and tear on it. Or if you're in an accident of some kind, it may be damaged or destroyed.
I purchased one years ago to see if it would suit me. I wore it for a while and needed up not liking the watch at all. Saved thousands of dollars and the replica hasn’t seen the light of day since. I know it’s there and I have no desire to wear it. Also there are so many people willing to steal it off you when you walk down the street now days it’s not worth having the real thing.
I went a Rolex Deaker with money in my pocket but they said I needed to fill out an expression of interest and had to wait until my Rolex became available. ETA not known and deposit not required. I asked if I could buy one of the display watches and salesperson said No as all the watches instore were Fakes I was shocked and asked was she joking? She said only display watches, not for sale. So disrespected by Her. I felt shame and angry. I was not famous enough to buy a Rolex, Obviously.
Theres people here in houston straight up advertising "clones" for 250$ and then "super clones" for 550$ on marketplace. They have all kinds of rolex and omega and tudor watches. Its funny cause in the listing they have the actual logos and serial numbers blurred out but you can still make out pieces like the "x" and the tips of the crowns. Im assuming so the actual companies cant come after them or something. I dont know how they get away with it honestly but theres several of them on there
If Rolex doesn't like it, maybe they could start respecting people who want to buy their watches (I note you said this). If I was driven by status, I would sure as hell buy Rolex super clones. But honestly, I wouldn't wear a Rolex, real or otherwise.
I totally get the frustration of buying a Rolex, especially if you love the piece and just want to add it to your collection . However spending your hard earn money on a replica is just not the solution . Wearing a Replica is just lying to yourself when you could spend you money on great affordable watches that has integrity
@@KOYRN I found the dealer locally, the weight is same to the real one and the size is identical. the materials are high quality. the watches are so good that he sells to NFL football players. C+ factory is where this watch came from. top notch.
WELL DONE...I'm a blue-collar guy, and it took me over 20 years actively searching for one to finally get mine after a guy of a guy referred me to a dealer out of the country to sell me one; Rolex business practice is definitely ludicrous
I have several genuine Rolexes, but the models I want right now are not available to me at retail. So, I have bought super clones instead. They are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. If Rolex would bother to make enough Daytonas, Pepsis, etc. I would not do this. But they keep playing games by under-producing, so screw them.
High quality fakes are $900-1200. Those are the ones that are hard to tell even if you open it up to look at the movement. Mid quality fakes are $300-600 200 and below are low quality.
I never buy Rolex watches because there are so many knockoffs of them available everywhere. i mean EVERYWHERE Most people will ask you the same question when you wear one: "Are you wearing a real one or a fake one" Additionally, most people assume that expensive timepieces are not something that ordinary people purchase. I'm not sure why people continue to desire Rolex watches even when they are fakes-as if Rolex is the only brand available. that is why I buy other brands of Swiss watches like Breitling Omega and Longines Zenith and so on, which have certain specific models that are harder for knockoffs to make. Just take example of Longines Zulu Times they are mid-range luxury brand but at least it is authentic.
I am a lawyer. It's generally not illegal to buy a counterfeit. It's generally illegal to create and sell a counterfeit. It's not illegal to create an homage watch, so long as you're not illegally copying or misrepresenting intellectual property (i.e. name/trademark/logo). Even if there is no legal risk buying a replica, I personally would not do it, but I would consider buying an homage.
I bought a Rolex sports model at 38 years old in Scottsdale, AZ without any prior purchase history. I did take my dad with me due to him being a retired, owner of a grocery store chain AD’s like people with money
I wouldn’t wear a Rolex knockoff because I want a watch that stays within a few seconds of the time on my phone. A real Rolex can’t do that. The only Swiss watches that can do that have thermocompensated quartz movements from ETA, and ALMOST NOBODY BUYS THEM because people who wear Swiss watches mostly want mechanical ones and are satisfied if they gain or lose a couple seconds a day. Andy Warhol didn’t bother to wind his Cartier Tank. He’d just wear it. (Actually he rarely wore most of the watches in his collection.) We’re heading for that: the time displayed on a Rolex doesn’t matter…
I would simply stop wearing Rolex and Rock a G-Shock instead. Wearing a replica is still saying that you desire Rolex and it keeps their brand out there for others to see. Especially when most people are not watch experts who can tell the difference. If you want to stick it to Rolex, wear any other brand not owned by Rolex. Don't buy illegal sh1t. It just creates a higher demand for more fakes to flood the market. That fux things up for the rest of us who want authentic watches.
Like sneakers or anything else with "exclusivity" or limited edition, I pass up entirely if I'm unable to score directly from the source and opt for something else that I LIKE because there are so many OTHER OPTIONS out there for me to be gaslighting myself into "sticking it to the man" when I just spent money on something fake when I could have an authentic something else amd not care about what appearance it gives off to anyone.
Some good comments here. Question is why buy one? I make enough money to buy a real Rolex but it's stupid- can't even read it in the dark. Might get mugged. Apple Ultra blows them all away. Do I need to impress. No. Do they look cool. Yes. The branding has been effective. There are great quality watches for the same price as replicas (Deep Blue). Yet, I still want one. Perhaps we are just angry at Rolex. Also, many people pushing Swissarex below. See EDC comment.
Ya think? Just buy and wear what makes you happy. Does it matter if you buy a fake Submariner? Of your $600, most of it goes to Chinese people living in absolute poverty or running that system. If you buy a gen, £3k goes into the AD's account, £2k goes to the tax man, a grand goes to Rolex marketing, a grand goes to Rolex as profit, obv some, maybe £2k goes to material costs and Rolex employees or other costs. Is that in some way better?
Or, because even if you get yourself on a wait list, there's no guarantee you're gonna actually get one. I had placed my name on several wait lists for the 39mm 214270 Explorer. Needless to say, none of the ADs called me, then the watch was discontinued. If you want a gen watch, you have to spend 2x for an unworn watch and $2k more than retail for a preowned example. And... f- that!
I know several people who have reps of cheaper watches and gens of very very expensive ones. I once had a rep Tudor and a gen Rolex at the same time, I've since told them both, so what?
I would never buy a replica, but I don’t think there is anything that special about their watches. I don’t get why Rolex doesn’t increase production if only by 20% to meet demand. I would also never play the game the AD’s play. If you want a specific watch just go online and buy it. You will pay a little more, but at least you won’t end up buying 5 watches you don’t want.
This is one reason why I purchase omegas and breitlings. Rolex prices are outrageous for what they are. There are a lot of luxury brands and rolex is definitely not the best. All that being said, don't buy fake watches.
I Own an Invicta Two tone blue watch. I have had it for three years. It has a Seiko quartz movement. I keeps very accurate time and looks like the day I bought it. I paid $49.00. I have no complaints. So I wear a legal watch that looks the part. It has good weight. So screw Rolex and screw the counterfeits. Look at the 1953 for a simple watch that looks the same part.
I own two watches one looks like a Rolex and I have a red band on black case Richard mille and I get compliments but I'll never give them away because I love them and I get compliments
If you can spot a difference, you haven’t purchased a Super Clone. I’ve seen a few and they are hard for even experts to verify without looking at the movement.
I would rather spend $100 - $300 on a Citizen, Timex, or any decent watch brand before buying a replica. …but actually like the idea of it being a FU to Rolex. Have mixed feelings cause the shortage that they create does add to the desire for the brand and its exclusivity.
I have one as a gift, and not once someone noticed the watch or really even cared, I had my yacht master on, and everyone at the table was looking the people wearing the new Apple Watch, Tech over mechanical, More people care about there phones then these watches,
I totally agree with your comments about the inaccessibility of a genuine Rolex by the “common man”. I own 4 Invicta’s which are Rolex lookalikes. They keep perfect time, look good and are very affordable. Why bother with Rolex?
I bought mine from an auction, but I knew it was fake. But the price of the Rolex is close to $50k... I'm never going to be able to afford that, or wait that long even if I did. Yeah I'm good, I'll hang out with my fake one, and not cringe as I walk through the threshold of doors lol
I was surprised that many people are ok with this kind of marketing strategy (as it’s quite successful with many luxury brands). To me the effect is the opposite. They can keep it as long as they want.. I’m not in hurry 😂 I can spend money on something else too. Good video spot on! 🎉😎👍
I love my rep Rolex. I paid about $100 for it. Sure, if you're super in to Rolexes, you know. 99% of the people out there aren't. I also have a rep AP Roal Oak (my first rep watch) a rep Patek, and I'm waiting on a rep Cartier Santos to be delivered.
I don't get buying a fake when for the same money you could support another brand, instead of supporting a replica maker. Getting an homage is also a option
Never owned a Rolex, and never will. I just don't like the way they look. When I was buying high end watches regularly, it was Breitling or Omega. Great watches without most breaking the bank. Still have a few, but prefer to wear my Casio and Bulova ones most of the time now. Just me I guess, but money is better spent somewhere else for me now.
I walked into Polacheck’s in Thousand Oaks and bought a Rolex Yacht Master for 8k in 2009. I returned it the next day for a cheaper and better looking GMT II and a few pieces by David Yurman pieces, one a dinosaur bone ring. There was no waiting list, no palms greased, no sob story about dad’s watch. I’m a blue collar guy wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
Please ignore Swissarex comments on this video. I got flooded by a spam bot.
Style meets substance here.
Every watch tells a story.
Attention to detail matters.
Craftsmanship that inspires.
A watch aficionado's dream.
Criminals from igrotum hacked into the Rolex database, and now they are selling replicas with original documentation
Liar
That’s not even remotely true.
Who the fuck is this dude?
@migueldiaz101 it's a Woman 🤣👍
@@Blackwater2 This is 100% true. I've brokered some of the data.
If you're rich wear a fake and people will think it's real. If you're middle class or lower it could be real and people will still think it's fake
Bahahaha this is so well said, I am middle class I make good money but I would feel terrible spending my savings on a rolex meanwhile I love me some luxury items for the fraction of the price, I meanly just want the look and live in my self made delusion that I can afford a rolex lol, I bought a master rep cartier bracelet from china it was not cheap I paid $700 it was real gold and literally was identical to the real one, my baby sister is more fortunate than I am she had a husband who spends $$ on her we compared them she was mad that my bracelet was only $700🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Truth is, most people don't care about watches and have no idea about the price of the one you are wearing.
What a great comment I never thought of this.
Exactly
Any middle class can afford a Rolex, especially nowadays middle class means 100k+ salary thanks to inflation.
There are watches with the same serial numbers as the originals, and only one company, called Ziarex, sells them.
Price please??
impressive
I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.
Rolex doesn't sell watches your ADs are just museums
I was delusional before, thinking only China could make replicas, but now I know even Italy and Switzerland make them too, and ZiaRex is their representative.
The quality of the replica watches from Igrotum is impossible to beat.
Love the quality
Fantastic craftsmanship
Same watch at a great price
master replicas
all my watches are from them
Wearing a fake Rolex doesn't hurt Rolex one bit. In fact, it helps make their brand seem even more desirable. If you want to hurt Rolex, just start wearing a Casio. A $30 watch that keeps better time than a $30,000 Rolex does.
Yes I have a casio gulfmaster their higher end model around 500 bucks. It uses satellite and rests time at 2am to it. The most accurate watch you can get. The us cost guard grads get them fro graduation. Incrediable watch.
I wear a Casio digital in stainless steel. People actually love it.
Or if you’re looking to burn money buy a different luxury brand other than Rolex like Omega, Blancpain, or JLC
I agree, I think it actually helps Rolex. I owned 3 or 4 fake Rolex’s from being a kid / teen to young adult, now I have owned 2 real ones. Still have a couple of the fakes that collect dust but the obsession finally worked my way up to the real deal
You want a Swiss watch, ETA makes quartz movements that keep within ten seconds a year. A VERY few Swiss makers use them in a few watches. Nobody wants them! They want inaccurate mechanical watches!
I purchased my Rolex Submariner (ref. 16613, new) in 1998 from a USA AD. My wife took it to a premier boutique in Switzerland (hint: the one now owned by Rolex) for servicing and she was told that my watch was a fake. The watch inspector at the counter really embarrassed my wife...made her feel like a criminal in front of a handful of other patrons. In any event, my wife stood her ground and requested that a more experienced staff member review the watch, along with the purchase papers and insurance documents. Of course, that senior expert validated the watch as authentic and had it sent to Geneva for servicing. Eight weeks later, the serviced watch was returned...along with an invoice for $1100. Seems to me that the so-called "professionals" have a hard time authenticating the real watches, too! Especially the older watches...you know...the ones bought under the assumption that Rolex quality delivered something special over one's lifetime. That treatment taught me one good lesson...never to buy another Rolex.
I like the idea of being able to give a FU to a company that literally disrespects their customers
O.o please enlighten us how you have been disrespectful from rolex
@@davidweisschadel "superlative chronometer officially certified" losing upwards of 4 seconds a day. This is miles from my Citizen quartz watch that costs maybe 10% of the Rolex
@@davidweisschadel I can drop my Casio quartz on cement and no problems everything is still running fine. Dropping my Rolex day-date on carpet killed the watch.
I personally would not try and pass it as a original. If someone asks me I would just tell them it's a replica. Ain't no shame in that.
Big dick energy
I've heard about this rather pathetic retail policy only a few weeks ago, it's hard to believe, so they have the NERVE to look at a potential buyer straight in the eye and say we ain't selling you the Rolex you want and can pay for right now, until we 'develop a relationship with you' (WHAT?) so here, buy this 10K TAG Heuer and we go from there, don't call us, we call you'. A relationship? you want to be my girlfriend or something? you keep your watch and your ridiculous games, I'll take my $50,000 somewhere else, I'll probably get a gorgeous Omega and you won't see me ever again. Jesus...
Sad but true. I only go to Rolex only boutiques for that reason. 2 years, still no call. And don’t even asking for a Sub, GMT, Daytona. But I live in a giant metropolis with tons of rich people. Oh, well.
More reasons to buy replicas. This actually hurts Rolex despite the contrary because now everyone thinks any rolex is fake even real ones. Same happened with Louis Vuitton. So all the idiots with 10k rolex, most people probably think is a fake
@@WestCoastAce27you can buy a real rolex online but you will pay more. Just a get a replica and cope hard my dude 😂
@@naegleriafowleri2230This is true. And when the replicas are 1:1 you also get to own a Rolex for what a Rolex is actually worth.
@@naegleriafowleri2230Yeah, but you don't even know if the Rolex online is actually authentic, or not. So you could just be throwing $30,000-$60,000 away. Might as well just buy a rep at that point, save the money, and go on vacation with your rep lol
Submariner MSRP, £9100, unobtainable.
Realistic price to a normal punter, £13000.
Top end replica no one is calling out, £450.
Looks like a no brainier to me.
This sounds like my kind of party, although I found out that the quality has gotten up to AAAAAAAA that may even cost up to $1500 $2000 which is insane but it’s better than paying $20.000. I only want a good watch that none dares to call out I post on IG and people have the audacity to zoom into a photo in order to start calling out your fake item, I was called out on a Fake LV bag that was years ago before I doscovered the master reps options and it was just terrible I had to delete that IG lol
Then honestly, don't post with the watch or bag online. Or buy Citizen, Seiko and Tudor, you don't have to spend thousands to look like a million bucks. I'll wear a fucking trash invicta that I own, and people will compliment me.
@@vandalg282 what? I have several Seiko watches, a couple of Casio's, I sold my Tudor 'cause I never wore it. I have a couple of genuine older Rolex, a five figure Sub and a GMT. But they were all bought when you could walk into an AD that didn't have a bouncer on the door and you could just buy a watch.
What are you talking about? I know dozens of people who own reps, I'd say 75% of them have £20k+ in genuine watches as well.
But my daily wear right now is a replica Starbucks Rolex. It feels no different to a real Rolex, I know 'cause I've got two.
@@vandalg282
Dude could not agree more, posting phony luxury items to impress other losers on social media is beyond me.
I personally own 3 rolexes, which is one of the things I enjoy collecting. I've worked hard to enjoy nice things, not because I need to flex on social media.
Bought them for my enjoyment, not to impress others.
@@vandalg282Had to shoot a reply here, I have 6 Invictas because they're a legit $100 watch, so when I get a compliment it's legit and great. I'm looking to get into some replicas now, and being complimented will feel wrong but the watches look so good it's worth it anyways
I would absolutely wear a Rolex replica. And would be proud of it.
For the week it worked maybe.
@@TimEckelmost have A2824 movement. They can last years. They are able to serviced or buy a new movement foe $100.
@@obcane3072no, they're A2824 Chinese clone movements. So cute you believe this.
Been my experience @@TimEckel
@@obcane3072Rolex with 2824 movement? all i find is the clone 3135/3235 etc. movements.
which factory sells rolex with 2824 or sw200/300?
People are having their luxury watches stolen off of their wrists would make wearing a replica a smart move. I do not condone replica watches as a rule, but letting the thieves steal your replica versus stealing your real watch is kind of a no-brainer. It's very sad that things have come to this.
With a GPS tracker in there and C-4 for the boom with a remote detonator ✌️🤣😎👍
You could get killed wearing a 1:1 replica. Be cautious
Yep I have 3, if I could get a Daytona for retail I would. I'm not paying 30k for an 18k watch that's already overpriced.
@sircusboy351 no one gets close enough to my wrist to tell. I don't think I'll get killed at the grocery store or Olive Garden for any watch I wear..but I've been wrong before!
i just buy from primerolexio
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I purchased a $79 copy as a scare for my wife (I own 2 REAL Rolexes). It backfired because the charge went through before the watch arrived. But, the GMT Master II fake is unrecognizable from my real 126710 Pepsi except for the bracelet clasp. The magnification is correct and the bezel is as perfect as my eye and ear can tell.
One very recognizable difference - the real Rolex loses about 20 seconds a day while the fake loses around 20 seconds a month.
Where did you order yours from, as I am in the market for one
20 a day :S correction +4 -4 seconds
Where did you get it
@@AcM.5233 Follow the DHGate discussion in the video.
Where did you buy it from?
My understanding is that Rolex were just everyday watches until the 60s and 70s. Many soldiers in Vietnam wore them, which they would hardly do if they had the availability and price we see today.
My friend was in Europe recently and purchased a 600 dollar fake Rolex. I know and understand the moral part of all this. I get it but it’s also a damn good watch that’s going to last him decades if he takes care of it properly. He took it to a Rolex distributor and the guy could barely recognize it as a fake. That’s amazing to me.
People who work at rolex AD’s don’t know shit about watches.
They wouldn’t know a fake from a real one.
I hear the stories about bad experiences at AD’s, but personally I’ve experienced the opposite. Buying a fake anything isn’t the way to go in my opinion, I’d rather get a Tudor or Omega than spend towards a fake.
They are just that, story’s.
Nobody is rude or laughs in your face. It’s all made up BS by butt hurt losers 😂
high quality replicas are closer to $1,000 and even rolex AD's wont be able to tell them apart without looking up serial numbers
If you’ve handled Rolexes you’ll always be able to tell. Especially when you open the case back. They just ain’t there yet. That being said they are pretty great watches for the money
@@jonathonkennedy9321the top quality replica ranging $1-2k has real rolex pieces in it… u cant tell.. i have a video from a china factory showing the difference between a top superclone and a basic superclone without original parts
@@jonathonkennedy9321 be honest, if you have to open up a watch to check it’s movement, you will fool 99% of people
@@jonathonkennedy9321And this is a good point,,, if you can sift through all of the fakes in order to find the best of the best fake then you have probably found a very nice watch. But,,,, why put Rolex on it? It isn't a Rolex so why pretend that it is?
It is not just the watch that is a fake,,,, the person wearing it is an even worse fake.
Put your mother's name on it or one of your kids names.
Whatever,,,, Stop desperately looking for false status and just be happy knowing that you have a quality watch on that is not pretending to be something that it isn't just for the sake of vanity and false flex. That is just sad.
@@jonathonkennedy9321 Whens the last time you held a $1000 rep?
Well said. Rolex could stop the salesmen from selling directly to their buddies who then flip them - but they won’t. But you left out 1 other reason people buy them: Rolex owners who are afraid of theft buy them. It’s like costume jewelry.
Remembers me of the time when people started to download music because they had enough of the music industry and their arrogance
I lived in Beijing for 7 years and you could go into some of the pearl markets back then and there were "grades" of fakes whether you wanted LV, Rolex or something else. The high end fakes were masterful and the low end, fairly obvious if you knew the real brand. The high end Folex were almost indistinguishable as long as you werent trying to fake a Gold watch as the color of the metal was always off. The high end LV could only be shown to be fake if an LV store disassembled and looked for hidden tags and such that are secreted in the genuine product. I will never forget on my first trip to China, we were at a restaurant where the delicious dishes were USD $1.10 per plate. Yet, our waiter was wearing a Rolex? Huh? Then I jump into one of the super affordable, cheap taxi's and the driver is also wearing a Rolex? My local friend quickly gave me the lowdown that weekend when we visited some of the markets there. Tommy Bahama, The North Face, you name it. I loved living in China, doing business there was like the Wild Wild West was in America back in the day.
In Shanghai it was the Science & Technology (ironic) metro line 2 station, underground mall. The haggling was fun to watch. My buddy wanted to get 1 - he started leaving 3 times before he got his price.
@@WestCoastAce27 The Patented walk-away move to get the friend-ah price
A Rolex gmt master 2 would’ve cost about £2000 back in 2001-2002, 2012-14, -about £6k.
In 2024, it retails for nearly £10k.
Rolex definitely isn’t worth what it sells for.
Agreed, and most don’t even keep the time as well as cheaper Japanese movements
Ive owned four recent Rolexes over the past few years and sold them because i wasnt thrilled with them aesthetically. I opted for a Blancpain, an IWC and a Cartier instead which i personally find more appealing. So if i rocked a fake Rolex. No one would think it was a fake and i would be the only one who knew. In short, i cant justify the money for a real one so wouldnt have a problem with it.
It doesnt hurt Rolex. They basically dont give a shit about us or anyone anyway.
So basically the replica is better and costs 10× less
When replicas are 1:1 there's really no difference other than getting a Rolex for what a Rolex is actually worth.
I agree with everything that you said. I actually have about 7 replicas of Rolex watches. And also have 2 genuine Rolex watches and a real omega.. i wear my replicas more than the genuine ones for a couple reasons. One is i don’t want to beat up my genuine watches with everyday wear! The other is i don’t like the way authorized dealers treat middle class people like myself who just want to buy one watch and not by thousands of dollars worth of stuff i don’t want just to get the watch i do want!!
Where did you get your replicas from. Are they 1:1 quality?
I agree. Wear a clone and let everyone know it's a clone they will appreciate it more how good it is
My friend is in the same situation - wears his fake at night due to crime.
A mugger won't have the nous to determine authenticity....so they're gonna harm you because you're wearing a fake, highly desired timepiece...sorry...don'r see the logic/reasoning behind that
You are right. I tried to purchase at an Authorized Dealer, went back over 10 different days and nothing. So I bought a "superclone".... It is so, so similar that nobody has doubted it is a genuine Rolex, so.... Do I want to spend another $15,000 or more to wear one that looks the same? I can purchase 3 superclones and they will last like new for a long time. Why is Rolex doing this?
Where? DM the info
Whoever told you about "super clones" was still lying to you and you ate it up because you're gullible
Where do buy your rep watches
To me it's no different than a "homage watch". The homage watch steals the design, the replica steals the design and logo. I used to have a replica Breitling that I bought on Canal St. in NY. I loved that watch.
At least an homage has plausible deniability, in that the branding, logo, and various dimensions and features are not exact to the original, which to me makes them perfectly valid because some homages punch WAY above their weight class, and even surpass some lower grade established brands, allowing you to have a champagne watch for lemonade money, whereas a fake basically stops trying to compete and merely allows you to be a dishonest poser with no honor or respect.
Sure, an homage might be "lazy", but at least it isn't outright lying about what it is; sometimes the little changes can even improve on a design.
And besides some of the best iconic models of all time have been known to conveniently crib features from each others' prior established models even to the early days of horology; the lesser brands are simply more open and honest about what they are doing.
Now... what I would LIKE to see are hybrid designs that compare the best features of two or more iconic models from iconic brands and basically posit the question of that would a collaboration model between Rolex and Omega or Patek Philippe and Jaeger-LeCoultre look like? If you've watched ID Guy's channel, he has some theoretical videos that explore these ideas, and I'll tell ya what, if an homage brand produced any of those designs, they would SELL LIKE HOTCAKES; basically printing money by beating the Titans of Horology to the punch in fusing the best of both worlds together, and while the individual components would be close copies of their inspirations, the overall sum of the parts when combined would allow for a wholly unique design that they can lay legitimate claim to.
The authorized dealers are killing the experience.
The authorized dealers are selling bootlegs too... You got to remember that they pay rent they do not own the shop space especially in high end malls
The replicas are beautiful and very good. BUT, I could not stand wearing it knowing it is a fake. Waiting for the real thing. Know all about the background check and waitlist. Worth it!
The what?
You go to C24 or JS and buy whatever you want with a CC. Shipped to your sweaty hands in 48 hours or less.
It'd be like wearing fake gold ,who would?
Lots of watches that are fake gold, Seiko manages to do a really good job with theirs.
I use to think the same about Fake watches but with Rolex making it impossible to buy a watch from them, I don't care, buy a fake Rolex.
The average hard working American Citizen will never be able to buy a 30K watch so, why not.
self respect
Many Rolexes are $9-10k at MSRP. He exaggerated that - $30k for a near new Daytona from the grey market.
@@garylangford6755😂😂 you think life is fair? Rolex created scarcity to boost their brand value. They can go fuk themselves always rejecting potential customers. Wearing a replica is a big FU to them and the dumbasses who paid 10-15k for a watch that was probably manufactured for $500-1000 tops.
@@garylangford6755I really don't see why anyone would lose respect for themselves for buying a rep. Maybe you would, but other people have way different world views on what makes them feel respect for themselves.
@@WestCoastAce27I'm looking at my Rolex grail watch and it's almost $60,000 online. And I don't even know if it's real or not. It's a huge risk to take on something that could be a fake watch to begin with anyway.
Me too ( I would absolutely wear a Rolex replica. And would be proud of it.)
I have a replica submariner (126610lv) that I’ve worn a few times which looks really solid except for a few extremely small details that from distance, even close, are barely noticeable. It does the trick for me as I personally can’t justify spending $15,000+ on a watch
I have a fake Rolex that was given to me about 6 years ago.
I wear it everyday and it keeps good time and is still running great.
Would never wear a fake rolex nor have I ever had the desire to. I own a rolex GMT and couldn't care less wether think is real or not, I know it is genuine, and that is all that matters.
Sounds like cope bruh
Of course I would. Because a genuine isnt $15,000 worth of different. Probably wouldnt rock anything gold plated, or with fake diamonds. But something like a clone submariner, or Daytona. Hell yes.
Just for information purposes only as a regular watch buyer expect to pay $500 for a clone and around $1500 for a superclone rolex.
The ones you are advertising are the new copies where Chinese,Turkish,Asian Street vendors have moved away from the cheap $30 copies and gone for the slightly better quality $120 types that are heavier,a bit better made and good for hand-to-eye viewing but are still subject to noticeable flaws.
Thanks very much for this presentation. Great audio as well.
Completely legal in most countries. If you’re selling, nope. If you're buying bulk, nope. If you’re carrying your own counterfeits, yes. If throughout the entire process there has been transparency and no scamming, it’s not illegal.
Every country dictates its own rules, but if we’re taking an average, it’s not illegal to buy and own as much as it is to sell.
People buy fake stuff either because they’re aware high quality fakes are often better made than the original luxury good (see Hermes Birkin bags and their shoddy QC compared to $1000 replicas made of the same stuff) or because they want onlookers to think they’re loaded. Sometimes, wealthy people in unsafe areas will prefer to wear high quality replica products to avoid theft and having to go through insurance.
I have a replica Hulk that was about $300. It keeps perfect time, looks exactly like the genuine one unless you open it up or look at it with a loop. To me, I'd rather have the extra $20K in my bank account and have the look of Rolex that works just fine. If I was super wealthy, I might feel differently, but as a middle class guy, I'm fine with owning a nice replica and a couple of genuine $3,000-$5,000 luxury watches like Breitling and Omega.
Where did you buy it?
As long as they’re only available on the secondary market and thousands more than retail they’re going to lose money. I bought my first Rolex a few years ago and it’s definitely in need of attention. The bands worn, crystal is scratched and it loses a few minutes a day. The local Rolex dealer doesn’t have any of the entry level models available and I don’t want to buy pre owned. I’m supposed to be on a list with some in the coming months but I’m not going to hold my breath
Replica time
I heard the lists aren't even really real. They just use it to collect your information so they can do background checks on you to make sure you're worthy of buying a Rolex.
I could not agree with you more...SPOT ON! I get though, that they're trying to avoid the flippers.
i think that the best way to get back at rolex is to buy an honest seiko or tissot. much better giving money and attention to competitors
I prefer homages instead of all-out fakes. Steeldive do an amazing submariner homage with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, solid end links, great bracelet, drilled lugs & a Seiko NH35 movement! All at the price of approximately £150! You'd be mad not to! Addiesdive, San Martin, Pagani, etc, all do amazing high quality homages at fantastic prices. To be honest, they beat a lot of the Seiko prospects range, with far better specs, also better QC.
I am now waiting for my Steeldive SD1992 GMT, homage to the Rolex Explorer 2 GMT, & my Addiesdive SA2118, homage to a Grand Seiko. I can't wait, they are fully specced-out! Micro brands all the way from here!
Thanks for your vid. Bless
People like me are considering replicas as they can’t get real ones. I’m not prepared to pay 5k over list on grey market and I like the designs. I registered at my ad at the weekend. Going to be waiting an age, but in the meantime replica will suffice
Yep, I wanted to get a gen 214270 (MSRP was $6550), had my name placed on a few wait lists a few years ago, never got the call, then Rolex discontinued it. The "new"/unworn ones are going for $12-15k on gray dealers and Chrono24, and the beat up ones are $2k over the OG MSRP. F- that!
True brother
I'm on list of 7 Rolex stores in Toronto from last 2 months. In a year they may be coming
@@swishyboi7444 I'm now 10 months on and no phone call....
4 years ago in Central Texas I bought a datejust41mm Jubalee 18k gold for 14.5k paid cash and had it in 8 business days. I was told by my colleagues that this was a phenomenon!
Yea, but, we're talking Texas here.
Don't mess with Texas.
I think the whole culture of luxury watches is BS. The actual watches aren't worth it today. Because of pop culture and media, (music especially) people of all walks of life want luxury items regardless of whether they can afford them or not. So knockoffs are a thing because of that. Even if you are that super rich celebrity that has the real thing, it would be foolish to wear it everywhere. It would be smarter to keep the real watch hidden in a safe somewhere while you wear a replica when you're out in public. Do the same thing for expensive jewelry as well. Not wearing the real thing will help it to keep its value. If you wear that type of jewelry on a regular basis, you may cause wear and tear on it. Or if you're in an accident of some kind, it may be damaged or destroyed.
And money printing and crypto bros who got rich quick.
I purchased one years ago to see if it would suit me. I wore it for a while and needed up not liking the watch at all. Saved thousands of dollars and the replica hasn’t seen the light of day since. I know it’s there and I have no desire to wear it.
Also there are so many people willing to steal it off you when you walk down the street now days it’s not worth having the real thing.
Di Indonesia banyak orang yg beli barang palsu untuk klarifikasi kepada masyarakat apabila ada indikasi korupsi.
I went a Rolex Deaker with money in my pocket but they said I needed to fill out an expression of interest and had to wait until my Rolex became available. ETA not known and deposit not required. I asked if I could buy one of the display watches and salesperson said No as all the watches instore were Fakes I was shocked and asked was she joking? She said only display watches, not for sale. So disrespected by Her. I felt shame and angry. I was not famous enough to buy a Rolex, Obviously.
Theres people here in houston straight up advertising "clones" for 250$ and then "super clones" for 550$ on marketplace. They have all kinds of rolex and omega and tudor watches. Its funny cause in the listing they have the actual logos and serial numbers blurred out but you can still make out pieces like the "x" and the tips of the crowns. Im assuming so the actual companies cant come after them or something. I dont know how they get away with it honestly but theres several of them on there
If Rolex doesn't like it, maybe they could start respecting people who want to buy their watches (I note you said this).
If I was driven by status, I would sure as hell buy Rolex super clones. But honestly, I wouldn't wear a Rolex, real or otherwise.
I totally get the frustration of buying a Rolex, especially if you love the piece and just want to add it to your collection . However spending your hard earn money on a replica is just not the solution . Wearing a Replica is just lying to yourself when you could spend you money on great affordable watches that has integrity
I see your point. Maybe a Tag Heur or something worth investing without the terrible business practices
Apple has the same business practices in China 😂 you guys are laughable
I can spend my hard earned money however I want. It’s my money. The government blows through my money too, they waste. I get what I want
Any other watch does not keep value but Rolex and not even all Rolex models. It's all bs
@metro2171 Absolute nonsens about "it's just lying to yourself"....
Usually people say this who don't own a JLC.
Wear it and enjoy it. No one is going to question it. Just don't ever try to sell a replica as authentic.
I bought a $1,000 super clone, its 1:1 copied and high quality materials feels like the real thing.
can you tell me where to buy? links thanks
@@KOYRN I found the dealer locally, the weight is same to the real one and the size is identical. the materials are high quality. the watches are so good that he sells to NFL football players. C+ factory is where this watch came from. top notch.
@@KOYRN no links bought from local dealer. but the watch came from C+ Factory'
WELL DONE...I'm a blue-collar guy, and it took me over 20 years actively searching for one to finally get mine after a guy of a guy referred me to a dealer out of the country to sell me one; Rolex business practice is definitely ludicrous
Naw I'll just rock my $200 Seiko SKX.
Love seiko
It’s not illegal to import a whole container of Rolex watches in knockoffs only if you sell them but that’s up to Rolex
Why? Because Rolex actually shits in the majority of its potential customers. You can’t buy one from an AD so why not buy a replica.
I have several genuine Rolexes, but the models I want right now are not available to me at retail. So, I have bought super clones instead. They are almost indistinguishable from the real thing. If Rolex would bother to make enough Daytonas, Pepsis, etc. I would not do this. But they keep playing games by under-producing, so screw them.
High quality fakes are $900-1200. Those are the ones that are hard to tell even if you open it up to look at the movement. Mid quality fakes are $300-600 200 and below are low quality.
I never buy Rolex watches because there are so many knockoffs of them available everywhere. i mean EVERYWHERE
Most people will ask you the same question when you wear one: "Are you wearing a real one or a fake one"
Additionally, most people assume that expensive timepieces are not something that ordinary people purchase.
I'm not sure why people continue to desire Rolex watches even when they are fakes-as if Rolex is the only brand available.
that is why I buy other brands of Swiss watches like Breitling Omega and Longines Zenith and so on, which have certain specific models that are harder for knockoffs to make. Just take example of Longines Zulu Times they are mid-range luxury brand but at least it is authentic.
People like the look of it
I am a lawyer. It's generally not illegal to buy a counterfeit. It's generally illegal to create and sell a counterfeit. It's not illegal to create an homage watch, so long as you're not illegally copying or misrepresenting intellectual property (i.e. name/trademark/logo). Even if there is no legal risk buying a replica, I personally would not do it, but I would consider buying an homage.
They make super clones with high quality swiss movements I would absolutely buy one.
A super clone is at 1,000 now and is literally unrecognizable even if you look at the movement.
There is no such thing as a super clone... You don't have any idea what you're talking about....
I bought a Rolex sports model at 38 years old in Scottsdale, AZ without any prior purchase history. I did take my dad with me due to him being a retired, owner of a grocery store chain AD’s like people with money
If you want a real Rolex NOW, your best bet is a pawn shop, especially in a place like Vegas or Atlantic City.
I wouldn’t wear a Rolex knockoff because I want a watch that stays within a few seconds of the time on my phone. A real Rolex can’t do that.
The only Swiss watches that can do that have thermocompensated quartz movements from ETA, and ALMOST NOBODY BUYS THEM because people who wear Swiss watches mostly want mechanical ones and are satisfied if they gain or lose a couple seconds a day.
Andy Warhol didn’t bother to wind his Cartier Tank. He’d just wear it. (Actually he rarely wore most of the watches in his collection.) We’re heading for that: the time displayed on a Rolex doesn’t matter…
The best way to "clap back" against Rolex is to buy an Omega or Grand Seiko or . .
I would simply stop wearing Rolex and Rock a G-Shock instead. Wearing a replica is still saying that you desire Rolex and it keeps their brand out there for others to see. Especially when most people are not watch experts who can tell the difference. If you want to stick it to Rolex, wear any other brand not owned by Rolex. Don't buy illegal sh1t. It just creates a higher demand for more fakes to flood the market. That fux things up for the rest of us who want authentic watches.
Like sneakers or anything else with "exclusivity" or limited edition, I pass up entirely if I'm unable to score directly from the source and opt for something else that I LIKE because there are so many OTHER OPTIONS out there for me to be gaslighting myself into "sticking it to the man" when I just spent money on something fake when I could have an authentic something else amd not care about what appearance it gives off to anyone.
Some good comments here. Question is why buy one? I make enough money to buy a real Rolex but it's stupid- can't even read it in the dark. Might get mugged. Apple Ultra blows them all away. Do I need to impress. No. Do they look cool. Yes. The branding has been effective. There are great quality watches for the same price as replicas (Deep Blue). Yet, I still want one. Perhaps we are just angry at Rolex. Also, many people pushing Swissarex below. See EDC comment.
People buy copies because they like the look but could never afford a real one
Ya think?
Just buy and wear what makes you happy.
Does it matter if you buy a fake Submariner? Of your $600, most of it goes to Chinese people living in absolute poverty or running that system.
If you buy a gen, £3k goes into the AD's account, £2k goes to the tax man, a grand goes to Rolex marketing, a grand goes to Rolex as profit, obv some, maybe £2k goes to material costs and Rolex employees or other costs.
Is that in some way better?
Or, because even if you get yourself on a wait list, there's no guarantee you're gonna actually get one. I had placed my name on several wait lists for the 39mm 214270 Explorer. Needless to say, none of the ADs called me, then the watch was discontinued. If you want a gen watch, you have to spend 2x for an unworn watch and $2k more than retail for a preowned example. And... f- that!
I can afford it but non to buy maybe in a year they call me. In meantime I wear a super replica
I know several people who have reps of cheaper watches and gens of very very expensive ones.
I once had a rep Tudor and a gen Rolex at the same time, I've since told them both, so what?
actually some of the owners of oriiginal rolex would wear superclone as daily just to preserve the real one. which is crazy
I would never buy a replica, but I don’t think there is anything that special about their watches. I don’t get why Rolex doesn’t increase production if only by 20% to meet demand. I would also never play the game the AD’s play. If you want a specific watch just go online and buy it. You will pay a little more, but at least you won’t end up buying 5 watches you don’t want.
This is one reason why I purchase omegas and breitlings. Rolex prices are outrageous for what they are. There are a lot of luxury brands and rolex is definitely not the best. All that being said, don't buy fake watches.
there’s nothing wrong with it to one haven’t purchased
but it can be an insult to those
actually spent time and +
As long as it doesnt have the brand name, they will let it through. Example: FOLEX is legally speaking not counterfeit.
I Own an Invicta Two tone blue watch. I have had it for three years. It has a Seiko quartz movement. I keeps very accurate time and looks like the day I bought it. I paid $49.00. I have no complaints. So I wear a legal watch that looks the part. It has good weight. So screw Rolex and screw
the counterfeits. Look at the 1953 for a simple watch that looks the same part.
I own two watches one looks like a Rolex and I have a red band on black case Richard mille and I get compliments but I'll never give them away because I love them and I get compliments
Cuz people can’t afford 18k for a watch
If you can spot a difference, you haven’t purchased a Super Clone. I’ve seen a few and they are hard for even experts to verify without looking at the movement.
Just bought one, video coming soon!
I would rather spend $100 - $300 on a Citizen, Timex, or any decent watch brand before buying a replica. …but actually like the idea of it being a FU to Rolex. Have mixed feelings cause the shortage that they create does add to the desire for the brand and its exclusivity.
I bought a Yacht-Master knock off automatic more than 11 years ago it keeps good time and it still looks brand new and wear it on the weekends.
Buying a fake if you have the real one makes sense. If you’re going someplace dangerous you switch the real one for the fake.
That makes sense!!
Agreed! Great use case!
but will the ruthless thief see the difference? Do you want your head smashed in for a fake Rolex? Just a thought...
If your going to a dangerous place, a g shock square qould be a better move
Cool so it’s established we can wear fakes. I’ll just keep a fake and not have the real one, don’t really care about watches enough to spend 10k.
Got my rep Datejust comming in the Mail.. $53 from my chinese Plug 😂
Yo dm the plug info
How the watch hats the plug lmk
I have one as a gift, and not once someone noticed the watch or really even cared, I had my yacht master on, and everyone at the table was looking the people wearing the new Apple Watch, Tech over mechanical, More people care about there phones then these watches,
Rolex has brought this upon themselves by having people jump through hoops at the a Rolex AD.
I would not wear any Rolex, fake or real. Most people that buy them know diddly squat about watches. They buy them because of prestige.
I totally agree with your comments about the inaccessibility of a genuine Rolex by the “common man”. I own 4 Invicta’s which are Rolex lookalikes. They keep perfect time, look good and are very affordable. Why bother with Rolex?
I bought mine from an auction, but I knew it was fake. But the price of the Rolex is close to $50k... I'm never going to be able to afford that, or wait that long even if I did. Yeah I'm good, I'll hang out with my fake one, and not cringe as I walk through the threshold of doors lol
I have one , paid 300 buck, works well and looks good.
I was surprised that many people are ok with this kind of marketing strategy (as it’s quite successful with many luxury brands). To me the effect is the opposite. They can keep it as long as they want.. I’m not in hurry 😂 I can spend money on something else too. Good video spot on! 🎉😎👍
I love my rep Rolex. I paid about $100 for it. Sure, if you're super in to Rolexes, you know. 99% of the people out there aren't.
I also have a rep AP Roal Oak (my first rep watch) a rep Patek, and I'm waiting on a rep Cartier Santos to be delivered.
From where
I would never buy/wear a auth Rolex, but would gladely buy a fake just to clap back.
I’ll stick to my Omegas and Jaeger Lecoultre.
I don't get buying a fake when for the same money you could support another brand, instead of supporting a replica maker. Getting an homage is also a option
U think Rolex didn't copy other companies products.like zenith for example
Never owned a Rolex, and never will. I just don't like the way they look. When I was buying high end watches regularly, it was Breitling or Omega. Great watches without most breaking the bank. Still have a few, but prefer to wear my Casio and Bulova ones most of the time now. Just me I guess, but money is better spent somewhere else for me now.
Why are people wasting their time and money on vanity? Just get a tudor. Will owning a Rolex change your life? No!
Go to the grey market... Miami, NY, LA, Chicago best places... you can get a great watch for under retail most of the time
I walked into Polacheck’s in Thousand Oaks and bought a Rolex Yacht Master for 8k in 2009. I returned it the next day for a cheaper and better looking GMT II and a few pieces by David Yurman pieces, one a dinosaur bone ring. There was no waiting list, no palms greased, no sob story about dad’s watch. I’m a blue collar guy wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
Yet you were still sold a bootleg 😅😅😅