Correction: at 8:08 the “R23 Multi-Core Thermals Graph” should read “R23 Single Core Thermals Graph”. The data is correct just the graph label is incorrect. Sorry for the error.
Unfortunate timing - US sanctions PC cooling and power supply maker DeepCool for selling products to Russia, fueling its war efforts in Ukraine 6/13/2024 R.I.P.
You’re not the only one with this mindset. Stock for the T1 is limited (one the colors everyone wants) and they’re not cheap. The CH160 has better overall cost to performance, cost to volume etc.
I appreciate the support everyone has given me on this channel. Thank you. I am working on improving the audio in my videos, it’s an uphill battle but I appreciate the patience. I plan to upgrade to a better microphone soon. I was considering calling this channel Mumbl on the count that it sounds like I’m mumbling. 😂
I have the T1 with Atmos AIO, I was thinking to switch to this with keeping the same component just to improve thermal. But this show that thermal different is negligible. Thank you for this test, so I do not have to switch.
The thermals are a bit tricky as ambient temperatures change especially in the summer. The T1 has the benefit of having its components close to the side panel for faster heat dissipation. However it comes with a cost, added noise. The CH160 is a deeper case with a TG panel and back partially perforated panel which dampens noise a bit. In turn when normalizing the T1 to 40dB, It reached that mark at 65% with the T-30s. However the CH160 was able to stay at 40dB running the T-30s at 70% and with the two extra Noctua NF-A12x25 fans. Between the slightly better latency from not using a riser cable and the high fan speeds, this is why you see some performance gains in the CH160. I think if you want this performance without tinkering with 3D printing and experimenting then the CH160 is a great option, it’s affordable and you can probably get even better performance if you customize your fan curve or PBO limits. I’m moving back to the T1 because it’s just a better challenge.
Hi Chris! I think, that u can put low profile coolers on aio and high of pomp can be higher. U can put there id-cooling tf series (15mm high vs 25mm normal) so pomp high is 57-58mm
@@chrisrussellca Understood. Do you think there should be no problems installing aio with low-profile fans if the pump height is 50mm? (id-cooling fx 240 white)
@@SashaScheckin-tx2de well machines in more managed to squeeze the 53mm tall ATMOS which I wouldn’t recommend but it seems like it can be done. However not without putting pressure on the PCB
Sorry for the delay. EPS/CPU: 300mm, 12VHPWR: 400mm and 24-pin: 200mm. You can get those tight to 350mm on 12V and 150mm on 24-pin if you use soft cables
The temps in this config wasn’t a problem it’s just he compatibility. It’s 100% possible to have this but you need to follow the guide on what fits. The Cooler Master ATMOS is probably the best option outside of a low profile custom water block. You don’t have much wiggle room with the fans, the offset make it difficult.
You’d have to DIY it. Probably cut out a small rectangle and find a plug online that you can drill to the back… it’s a DIY project for sure, no quick solution.
Could the rear fan be lowered and mounted using the holes in the case? they look like a regular screw could fit. and could the front fan be mounted the same way but maybe with rubber fan mounts to give an AIO more clearannce? seems most 240's will have good clearance already though
Unfortunately it can only be raised, I have it at the lowest possible position, oddly enough the front and rear fan mounts aren’t aligned but you can move the rear fan up to make them even. It wouldn’t work in this configuration because of the radiator.
Do you mean having the 120 AIO pointed to the rear fan position or placing it right above the motherboard? If you’re mounting a AIO over the motherboard, even 120mm you will still need to ensure there is enough clearance. The liquid cooling limitations in this case has little to do with the length of the radiator but the width and thickness. If you’re talking about mounting the 120 in the rear then I’d say it’s worth a try, the CH160 is pretty wide and I don’t see there being too much issue but proceed with caution.
I can’t say for 100% but if you offset the radiator from the pump head it could work. It’s only limited by the radiator. However I have boot tested this. Also, if you’re going to do a 120mm, you should just air cool your PC, you can get much better performance with the Assassin 4 than any 120 AIO
@@royan5091 go for the ATMOS if you want something that fits. I’d never fight you on making decisions for looks, I’ve made many choices that put looks over performance.
what's the exact order you did for each cable in the mod diy website ? i plan to buy lian li sp850 but i really dont know how to do this exact custom cable as you did
Like measurements? These cables was purchased for me by a viewer. They’re from Mod DIY. They’re clear blue wire, this is the kit www.moddiy.com/products/Professional-Tailor-Made-Custom-Sleeved-Modular-Cable-Kit-for-Corsair.html The measurements are EPS/CPU 300mm (30cm) 12VHPWR 350mm (35cm) and 24-pin 150mm (15cm)
If you are using ITX motherboard and SFF PSU then what's the point of choosing this case over Lian Li Dan A4-H20? This case can easily Fit beefy GPU and official 240mm radiator support with very small foot print with just 11 liter in volume....
I get that, well it’s all about options, most people already own some or most of their parts. Migrating parts is a much more common than buying an entire build. I think the A4 H20 is great, I own that and several other cases and I’d 100% go with the right case that’s just big enough for the parts and maybe a little more for cooling.
@@chrisrussellcaI prefer Lian Li A3 mATX over this all day long which supports 360mm AiO, full ATX PSU mATX motherboard with just over 26 liter in volume. No compromise mATX chassis in the market right now. However the aforementioned chassis is bigger in length so bigger foot prints but that's why it can easily accommodate any 360mn AiO you throw at it. Another favorite one is SAMA IM01 which also supports 240mm AiO up top. I would love Deep Cool CH160 if it has native 240mm AiO support.
@@chrisrussellca trying to figure out if i can configure to fit the arctic cooler III, in regards to the pump cover is it being touched by just the fans? or also the radiator? wondering about trying slim fans to see if that would give enough clearance
@@haggred2064 it’s not physically possible, the radiator and pump block are too large. Even if you removed the VRM fan that still leaves you at 52-53mm tall pump top. I was only able to get the ATMOS in because it can be stripped down to 43mm. Also the radiator on the LF3 is 38mm thick, 11mm taller than the radiator I tested.
@@SamoSloga yes, in my opinion their right. Although I think they could’ve modified it to allow for more compatibility. Ultra slim blocks will work but not many of those around.
Normally, this case don't support AIO cooler. Did you produce any custom piece for case integration or just use stock case components? If we buy this case, can we use the ATMOS 240 AIO do anything extra?
This was 100% stock. It works but please watch this video for all the small details like how I had to remove the acrylic pump cover; it’s just for aesthetic purpose anyway. The ATMOS 240 is probably one of a few coolers that would fit this case….. Big disclaimer…… this all depending on how tall your memory is and if your desired motherboard has thick VRMs that might impede the radiator. As of now I can confirm the ATMOS 240, with the MSI B650i Edge Wifi motherboard and a 40-47mm tall memory kit is compatible with the CH160. Machines and More RUclips channel used a x670E-I motherboard, just for comparison.
There probably 3 or so with the low clearance pump head but it would all depend of the exact radiator dimensions. I can only verify the ATMOS 240 works.
@@chrisrussellca Thank you! I hate that the black version is on back order for another month, but once I get it, I’ll be testing the DeepCool LS320 and confirm fitting. I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve used that stated incompatibility, but actually worked when I installed them.
@@dbella021sorry for the delayed response. It’s really hard to tell what fits or not because the case dimensions are extremely temperamental. But based on a quick search. The cooler you mentioned is 71mm tall and would be too tall to fit with the radiator.
Thank you, I thought the same, however DeepCool recommends a front to back airflow configuration with the top exhausting warm air. I feel like heat naturally wants to rise so I think it makes sense.
@@chrisrussellca the way I see it is that the rear and front intake gives cold air directly to the top exhaust which gets sucked out right away. I don't think hot air from the GPU will get recirculated in the case. And you are using T30, right? Powerful fan.
@@xSeanok well that doesn’t really bother me, it turns into a regular corn once it’s plugged in, it also gives you more slack, something that’s helpful if you ever find yourself needing more cable length, like a LAN parties.
I was going to I promise, most people wanted to see a AIO in this case. Then it got banned in the US and didn’t see the point in covering the case any longer.
That’s why I returned mine, I want to cover the items that’s readily available to viewers, unfortunately 80% of my audience is located inside the U.S. I had some interesting videos planned for it otherwise.
It’s a massive bumper because their products are stunning, quality decent and features innovative. Not ideal for RUclipsrs who want to own their products but can’t invest in making videos about products that the majority of viewers can’t get hold off.
Correction: at 8:08 the “R23 Multi-Core Thermals Graph” should read “R23 Single Core Thermals Graph”. The data is correct just the graph label is incorrect. Sorry for the error.
Unfortunate timing - US sanctions PC cooling and power supply maker DeepCool for selling products to Russia, fueling its war efforts in Ukraine 6/13/2024
R.I.P.
Your 456 subscriber, this is what I was looking for finally something I could follow. Great video!
Thank you and welcome.
I am more of an air cooler fan myself, so this case really interests me, but I can appreciate your build even with an AIO.
Thank you! This case is better with air cooling!
Many AIOS don’t fit the header is too big
great video. I would love to see more builds for the Deepcool CH160 case!
It’s a very flexible case for air cooling, not many more configurations for liquid cooling.
Thank you for this. I might actually get this case and copy this layout. I’ve wanted a t1 case but not too keen on dropping so much money on the case.
You’re not the only one with this mindset. Stock for the T1 is limited (one the colors everyone wants) and they’re not cheap. The CH160 has better overall cost to performance, cost to volume etc.
I appreciate the support everyone has given me on this channel. Thank you. I am working on improving the audio in my videos, it’s an uphill battle but I appreciate the patience. I plan to upgrade to a better microphone soon. I was considering calling this channel Mumbl on the count that it sounds like I’m mumbling. 😂
I have the T1 with Atmos AIO, I was thinking to switch to this with keeping the same component just to improve thermal. But this show that thermal different is negligible. Thank you for this test, so I do not have to switch.
The thermals are a bit tricky as ambient temperatures change especially in the summer. The T1 has the benefit of having its components close to the side panel for faster heat dissipation. However it comes with a cost, added noise. The CH160 is a deeper case with a TG panel and back partially perforated panel which dampens noise a bit. In turn when normalizing the T1 to 40dB, It reached that mark at 65% with the T-30s. However the CH160 was able to stay at 40dB running the T-30s at 70% and with the two extra Noctua NF-A12x25 fans. Between the slightly better latency from not using a riser cable and the high fan speeds, this is why you see some performance gains in the CH160. I think if you want this performance without tinkering with 3D printing and experimenting then the CH160 is a great option, it’s affordable and you can probably get even better performance if you customize your fan curve or PBO limits. I’m moving back to the T1 because it’s just a better challenge.
Hi Chris! I think, that u can put low profile coolers on aio and high of pomp can be higher. U can put there id-cooling tf series (15mm high vs 25mm normal) so pomp high is 57-58mm
I was going to try the low profile NF-A1215 but I wanted all the cooling I can squeeze inside.
@@chrisrussellca Understood. Do you think there should be no problems installing aio with low-profile fans if the pump height is 50mm? (id-cooling fx 240 white)
@@SashaScheckin-tx2de well machines in more managed to squeeze the 53mm tall ATMOS which I wouldn’t recommend but it seems like it can be done. However not without putting pressure on the PCB
Well it would have been interesting to see this case work with an atx motherboard
I don’t think the best liquid cooling aspect would’ve worked with a ATX motherboard.
Great build, care to share the link to that exact custom cables you got there?
Sorry for the delay. EPS/CPU: 300mm, 12VHPWR: 400mm and 24-pin: 200mm. You can get those tight to 350mm on 12V and 150mm on 24-pin if you use soft cables
Can I put MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB in it? pump tall : 47mm
No, the pump clearance is like 41-43mm I believe.
What about a 120mm push/pull front aio? With an sfx psu ? Would that help airflow / work ? Ugh I want this case so bad but want an aio and good temps
The temps in this config wasn’t a problem it’s just he compatibility. It’s 100% possible to have this but you need to follow the guide on what fits. The Cooler Master ATMOS is probably the best option outside of a low profile custom water block. You don’t have much wiggle room with the fans, the offset make it difficult.
Would there be a way to install a back plug on this case? I hate the way the psu cable just dangles like that
You’d have to DIY it. Probably cut out a small rectangle and find a plug online that you can drill to the back… it’s a DIY project for sure, no quick solution.
how bout if psu atx and aio 240, does it fit?
Not sure. Check the PSU support information on my video
what type of cables are those custom one?
They’re clear blue cables from Mod DIY. They’re custom.
Could the rear fan be lowered and mounted using the holes in the case? they look like a regular screw could fit. and could the front fan be mounted the same way but maybe with rubber fan mounts to give an AIO more clearannce? seems most 240's will have good clearance already though
Unfortunately it can only be raised, I have it at the lowest possible position, oddly enough the front and rear fan mounts aren’t aligned but you can move the rear fan up to make them even. It wouldn’t work in this configuration because of the radiator.
What are your thoughts of having a 120mm AIO mounted in the back with the fans on the top?
Do you mean having the 120 AIO pointed to the rear fan position or placing it right above the motherboard? If you’re mounting a AIO over the motherboard, even 120mm you will still need to ensure there is enough clearance. The liquid cooling limitations in this case has little to do with the length of the radiator but the width and thickness. If you’re talking about mounting the 120 in the rear then I’d say it’s worth a try, the CH160 is pretty wide and I don’t see there being too much issue but proceed with caution.
120mm AIO's are just a waste of money
is it possible to use 120 aio water cooleer, put in top front, i want aesthetic look, please answer thanks
I can’t say for 100% but if you offset the radiator from the pump head it could work. It’s only limited by the radiator. However I have boot tested this. Also, if you’re going to do a 120mm, you should just air cool your PC, you can get much better performance with the Assassin 4 than any 120 AIO
@@chrisrussellca, but assassin looks so big i dont really like the looks, but thanks for the answer i still considering
@@royan5091 go for the ATMOS if you want something that fits. I’d never fight you on making decisions for looks, I’ve made many choices that put looks over performance.
Can it fit 120mm liquid cooler on the back?
Yes should be no problem
what's the exact order you did for each cable in the mod diy website ? i plan to buy lian li sp850 but i really dont know how to do this exact custom cable as you did
Like measurements? These cables was purchased for me by a viewer. They’re from Mod DIY. They’re clear blue wire, this is the kit www.moddiy.com/products/Professional-Tailor-Made-Custom-Sleeved-Modular-Cable-Kit-for-Corsair.html The measurements are EPS/CPU 300mm (30cm) 12VHPWR 350mm (35cm) and 24-pin 150mm (15cm)
Also what software do you use for the benchmarks? The graphs look really good
I use a paid service called Visme, looking for better options at the moment.
If you are using ITX motherboard and SFF PSU then what's the point of choosing this case over Lian Li Dan A4-H20? This case can easily Fit beefy GPU and official 240mm radiator support with very small foot print with just 11 liter in volume....
I get that, well it’s all about options, most people already own some or most of their parts. Migrating parts is a much more common than buying an entire build. I think the A4 H20 is great, I own that and several other cases and I’d 100% go with the right case that’s just big enough for the parts and maybe a little more for cooling.
@@chrisrussellcaI prefer Lian Li A3 mATX over this all day long which supports 360mm AiO, full ATX PSU mATX motherboard with just over 26 liter in volume. No compromise mATX chassis in the market right now. However the aforementioned chassis is bigger in length so bigger foot prints but that's why it can easily accommodate any 360mn AiO you throw at it. Another favorite one is SAMA IM01 which also supports 240mm AiO up top. I would love Deep Cool CH160 if it has native 240mm AiO support.
Deepcool is ❤ For us budget builders. Fyi I am not USA person in my country it is legal.
I really enjoyed the CH160, although it’s larger than what I typically like, it has tremendous value and air cooler support.
Is it possible if I use ATX psu with a 2 fan GPU? (still using aio)
I honestly don’t know, but I would imagine it’ll make using a AIO tougher.
Good Job Broo Thats a 🔥
Thank you, debating if I should make more content with the case.
Specs?
can i fit in a Corsair iCUE H100i RGB Pro XT with asus b760-i motherboard and a zotac 4070ti?
Well it’s all hypothetical but I think the Corsair H100i is too tall, I believe those coolers are 56mm tall, way too tall in the CH160.
@@chrisrussellca trying to figure out if i can configure to fit the arctic cooler III, in regards to the pump cover is it being touched by just the fans? or also the radiator?
wondering about trying slim fans to see if that would give enough clearance
@@haggred2064 it’s not physically possible, the radiator and pump block are too large. Even if you removed the VRM fan that still leaves you at 52-53mm tall pump top. I was only able to get the ATMOS in because it can be stripped down to 43mm. Also the radiator on the LF3 is 38mm thick, 11mm taller than the radiator I tested.
Officialy aio water coolers are not supported with this pc case
@@SamoSloga yes, in my opinion their right. Although I think they could’ve modified it to allow for more compatibility. Ultra slim blocks will work but not many of those around.
Normally, this case don't support AIO cooler. Did you produce any custom piece for case integration or just use stock case components? If we buy this case, can we use the ATMOS 240 AIO do anything extra?
This was 100% stock. It works but please watch this video for all the small details like how I had to remove the acrylic pump cover; it’s just for aesthetic purpose anyway. The ATMOS 240 is probably one of a few coolers that would fit this case….. Big disclaimer…… this all depending on how tall your memory is and if your desired motherboard has thick VRMs that might impede the radiator. As of now I can confirm the ATMOS 240, with the MSI B650i Edge Wifi motherboard and a 40-47mm tall memory kit is compatible with the CH160. Machines and More RUclips channel used a x670E-I motherboard, just for comparison.
@@chrisrussellca Thanks for detailed answer 🙏
How about to add to the info all parts information???
I should’ve put them in the description but the list does appear on screen at 7:10
@@chrisrussellca thank you ❤️
Long story short, what liquid coolers are compatible?
There probably 3 or so with the low clearance pump head but it would all depend of the exact radiator dimensions. I can only verify the ATMOS 240 works.
@@chrisrussellca Thank you! I hate that the black version is on back order for another month, but once I get it, I’ll be testing the DeepCool LS320 and confirm fitting. I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve used that stated incompatibility, but actually worked when I installed them.
Will a Deepcool Gammax 240RGB v2 fit in this case?
@@dbella021sorry for the delayed response. It’s really hard to tell what fits or not because the case dimensions are extremely temperamental. But based on a quick search. The cooler you mentioned is 71mm tall and would be too tall to fit with the radiator.
What AIO
The Cooler Master MasterLiquid ATMOS
Beast
Fan orientation is smart tbh.
Thank you, I thought the same, however DeepCool recommends a front to back airflow configuration with the top exhausting warm air. I feel like heat naturally wants to rise so I think it makes sense.
@@chrisrussellca the way I see it is that the rear and front intake gives cold air directly to the top exhaust which gets sucked out right away. I don't think hot air from the GPU will get recirculated in the case. And you are using T30, right? Powerful fan.
@@xSeanok yes, two T-30s. I didn’t want to air cool this build as it would be the same results as other reviews
@@chrisrussellca the only thing that CH160 turns me off is the dangling power cord extension.
@@xSeanok well that doesn’t really bother me, it turns into a regular corn once it’s plugged in, it also gives you more slack, something that’s helpful if you ever find yourself needing more cable length, like a LAN parties.
just looking the tittle of the video immediately i press that red button. this is what I'm searching for
I hope this was helpful! Thanks
Mr Matt lee + optimum tech but in light mode
Thanks, I thrive to be as good as these creators one day!
Oh come on man, when i clicked on the vid, i assumed
that you made it Proper Water cooling, not just that you jank strapped an AIO on it
I was going to I promise, most people wanted to see a AIO in this case. Then it got banned in the US and didn’t see the point in covering the case any longer.
So unfortunate that Deepcool has been banned in the US.
That’s why I returned mine, I want to cover the items that’s readily available to viewers, unfortunately 80% of my audience is located inside the U.S. I had some interesting videos planned for it otherwise.
Why tho
@@sytnoff1 I don't want to make content around a product that's unavailable for many people in the US to buy.
It’s a massive bumper because their products are stunning, quality decent and features innovative. Not ideal for RUclipsrs who want to own their products but can’t invest in making videos about products that the majority of viewers can’t get hold off.