Desperius - relatively new sprout here on their first job and partway through the Main Story in Heavensward. I am enjoying your content quite a bit. As a new player I am sure I am missing context and nuance within your videos, but I definitely getting a lot of help from them as well as good enjoyment. Keep it up good sir - you have a wonderful balance going and I think you are doing a great job helping the existing and the newbie community combined. Thank you! Slow Hula on the Adamantoise server North America
He indeed is the best! Been watching him since I started, and don't worry if you don't get every detail, because a lot is max level stuff that you will get by playing so no rush hehe Even if you don't get every detail, his videos are great for new players :D
I'm really hoping we get a new ranged class, like alchemist maybe, thats a support/dot class. Potions that can buff party and cause statuses on enemies with dot mechanics could be awesome
I was thinking time mage could come back, have some of the revival/low level heal as optional "turn back time", have DoTs with spells that reset their timer if you use them while the DoTs have so much left, saving you recast on multiple DoTs, and having G'raha teach you by trying to recollect the workings of the crystal tower's time travel.
Would be sick to have an actual dot class. People who say bard and or summoner are/were dot classes clearly have not played games where there are actual dedicated dot classes.
@@TheCooderix Dedicated DoT class would be quite an interesting thing, considering the game's slower pace it would be a lot more enjoyable too! I really liked WoW's Affliction Warlock or Aion's Spiritmaster, both were heavy DoT classes and were both quite strong in their own right. Not sure what previous title has such a job though? Maybe they'd need to cook up a new one which is plausable.
I’ve been a summoner main since heavensward and I truly believe we will be seeing more summoner players. Shadowbringer summoner I feel scared people off due to such a long rotation but I’m really hyped to see what some people will do with this summoner
I'm a lvl 40 sprout summoner main(started playing last week), and I'm seeing a lot of fellow summoners everywhere. I'm pretty happy how the Endwalker summoner looks, it's just as I imagined a job called summoner to be like.
My main problem with summoner us I didnt really feel like a summoner until bahamut or Phoenix phase so I went back to BLM. Now that suoner is actually summoning things all the time I plan on going back and staying since it is my favorite class in any game its available
I still wish Red Mage was like how it plays in Final Fantasy Crystal Explorers. It could use a cooldown that allowed it to free cast for 10 seconds. It was a monster with high crit gear.
BLM should get a "defibrillate" ability. Use their Thunder/electric magic to restart someone's heart like a defibrillator machine. :D EDIT: Oh, as for the video/question itself: RDM looks like it will mostly play as it has, just faster and with more burst/melee+finishers more frequently. If you like RDM now, you'll like it in EW UNLESS you don't like doing melee much. If you prefer to stay more of a caster/do the casting part more and the melee is just kind of something you do grudgingly, you might not like it AS much. BLM looks like it will also mostly play the same, with a much more intuitive leveling process and some quality of life changes like Enochian now being more built into your Job via a Trait and stuff like that which should make it more straightforward to play, but the playstyle ITSELF seems like it will largely be the same. SMN is the wildcard here. It has long been a Green Caller, a status effect (DoT) mage (Green Mage) combined with light summoner (hence Caller), but the Egis are being replaced with actual Summons, and the Demis already were more or less Summons. Instead of a REALLY rigid 2 minute rotation, it looks like the "fixed" points of the rotation are DWT (which now finally and rationally includes Bahamut) and FBT, and what you do in between is now your own decision of what order to use your three Summons in. Since they require different levels of commitment (namely that Ifrit's cast times are long and so should be used during non-movement phases), this will shift SMN a little towards BLM where you need to know the structure of the fight more to be able to adapt and choose your Summon order. Fortunately, Titan and, especially, Garuda, are a lot of instants, meaning you will be free to move with high mobility very very VERY frequently. Ifrit will be the only part of your rotation you're really locked down to use. This will require a very different way of thinking as SMN, and will also mean different fights may have different optimal orders to use the Eikon Trio, or Egi Trio if you prefer (ET for short :D), since in some fights you might want to use Ifrit > Garuda > Titan, while in another you might want Garuda > Titan > Ifrit. Or, even in the same fight, you might want Ifrit > Titan > Garuda for one part and, in a later part, you might want Titan > Garuda > Ifrit. So even within a single boss fight, different phases in your rotation you might prefer a different order for best results, since you'll be entering this phase every 30 sec or so. Like imagine if, during Eden 12, you used Titan > Ifrit > Garuda in the opener, but then Garuda > Ifrit > Titan the next time the ET were up, and then the time after that, used Ifrit before a phase transition, and then used Garuda > Titan in the following reopener because of a lot of back-to-back movement mechanics. So I could see what is optimal for SMN actually being different even during different parts OF THE SAME FIGHT. This could add complexity to the theorycrafters trying to decide what is "ultra optimal", but for SMNs in general, what this translates to is "you will have a LOT of flexibility, though to fully get the most out of it, you'll need to take a page from the BLM handbook and learn to think ahead in the fight." Whether that's a good or a bad thing depends on how you think as a player, I guess? To me, it's an...interesting thing, if nothing else. I'm reserving judgement on if it's good or bad, but at least right now, it definitely looks interesting, and also very cool.
I just don't get what you guys mean by thinking with new summoner. It's literally just "oh the not doing mechanics, let me use ifrit now." There's only a small handful amount of fights that would require a hard change in egi rotation. Like E11 and E12. There's no complexity in this job. What it boils down to is, if you can't be in melee range don't use ifrit. Boss moving don't use Garuda
I love that blackmage helmet in the thumbnail. Currently have it glammoured on mine! Personally I'm so ready for Endwalker with my WAR, BLM, DRG and BRD!
@@locket9160 Sure, it is the Bonewicca Whisperer's Mask. Drops at the 2nd boss in Swallows Compass (Stormblood 70). It also drops in the chests in that dungeon. And it can be bought with the current event tomestones for I think 15 Tomestones of Lore.
WoW: Balancing? What balancing! We just pick a handful specs we love, buff them hard and totally ignore the rest. FF14: Play whatever you want! There isn't a huge damage impact. (Of couse BRD and DNC do signifficantly less than BLM, but that is expected)
They should’ve just changed the names to match other ff games. Instead of fire 1/2/3 they could’ve gone with “Fire/Fira/Firaga/Firaja/Blaze/Inferno/Scorch/Hellfire/Flameburst/Magma/Salamander/Will o’ Wisp/Eruption/Meltdown… same for blizzard, and thunder imo.
Healer main since 1.0 now quitting his Job with 6.0. Wanna go full SMN now. I love how he works and without all the Dots i hope double weaving is History now. Not a Friend of double weaving cause my connection really sucks hard.
Probably still double weave a little bit but not much. Energy drain, energy siphon, fester and pain flare are ogcd so will be able to weave them still.
@@princessprincess0039 true but you usually only use 2 of these. ED and Fester are for Single Target and ES and Painflare for Multitarget. Also due to the instants in Bahamut Teanse or also the reduced Cast Time of Ruin 3 you have more possibilities to weave.
Im new to the game and plan on maxing out all the classes but smn is going to be primary first because thats just straight op but im a healer main so until i get there then yea
The casters look to be in a very good spot, as long as the potencies put RDM at lowest DOS best utility, then SMN with the mobility and utility and BLM as damage king, they could be the most balanced role with each having their own niche. BLM is my go to DPS though, so satisfying blowing enemies back so fiercely.
I haven't seen the video yet, but the answer is Black Mage... Black Mage is always the answer. If you aren't playing a Black Mage, you are doing it wrong. Sorry that truth hurts. We have big, awesome explosions. We are the best.
I'll probably go for SMN, i dont like the whole jumping in thing of the rdm and the blm is too immobile for my personal taste. I hope that i find what im looking for in EW
@@PinePizza Me too, I especially miss good armor options, since RDM feels more like a Magus than a true caster. And a Magus starts out wearing light armor but is eventually able to wear even heavy. Currently I'm using the High Allagan Coat of Casting.
I'm disappointed with Summoner. It seems like they took an axe to the complexity of it. Sure there is some decision making in when to use each summon, but the actual gameplay when they are out is 1 2 1 2 zzz
It's not really that much easier. You still drop AF/UI if you fail to refresh it. For the average BLM this pretty much just means you have 1 less button to press, and reduces the skill floor a little bit to people that manage to drop enochian while it's on cd somehow. Polyglot cd/extra surecast help but aren't crazy. The new aoe rotation is straight up a damage nerf vs. current cold flare aoe rotation based on the potencies shown while making it slightly "harder". Besides paradox BLM is mostly just getting an aoe rotation revamp and some nice QoL stuff. Again, I don't really see how the changes make BLM significantly easier.
Desperius - relatively new sprout here on their first job and partway through the Main Story in Heavensward. I am enjoying your content quite a bit. As a new player I am sure I am missing context and nuance within your videos, but I definitely getting a lot of help from them as well as good enjoyment. Keep it up good sir - you have a wonderful balance going and I think you are doing a great job helping the existing and the newbie community combined. Thank you! Slow Hula on the Adamantoise server North America
He indeed is the best! Been watching him since I started, and don't worry if you don't get every detail, because a lot is max level stuff that you will get by playing so no rush hehe
Even if you don't get every detail, his videos are great for new players :D
Thank you so much, what an awesome comment
@@agatha.passani Thanks a lot, for recommending my New Player value
If you want a good in-depth guide into classes Weskalber is very good to
Adamantoise here too!
I'm proud of being a RDM and couldn't be happier with the job. I will definitely try Summoner too.
I think rdm will always be the safe bet. Can spam rez and do decent dps with mobibiltiy because of dualcast
So hyped about summoner. Hoping BM wont get diluted by utility and whatnot, just pure big numbers, please!
I don't want utility on my BLM, I just want maximum selfish DPS. If I want to play support mode I'll just swap to my RDM or DNC.
I'm really hoping we get a new ranged class, like alchemist maybe, thats a support/dot class. Potions that can buff party and cause statuses on enemies with dot mechanics could be awesome
I was thinking time mage could come back, have some of the revival/low level heal as optional "turn back time", have DoTs with spells that reset their timer if you use them while the DoTs have so much left, saving you recast on multiple DoTs, and having G'raha teach you by trying to recollect the workings of the crystal tower's time travel.
So bard
Would be sick to have an actual dot class. People who say bard and or summoner are/were dot classes clearly have not played games where there are actual dedicated dot classes.
@@TheCooderix Dedicated DoT class would be quite an interesting thing, considering the game's slower pace it would be a lot more enjoyable too! I really liked WoW's Affliction Warlock or Aion's Spiritmaster, both were heavy DoT classes and were both quite strong in their own right. Not sure what previous title has such a job though? Maybe they'd need to cook up a new one which is plausable.
I’ve been a summoner main since heavensward and I truly believe we will be seeing more summoner players. Shadowbringer summoner I feel scared people off due to such a long rotation but I’m really hyped to see what some people will do with this summoner
I'm a lvl 40 sprout summoner main(started playing last week), and I'm seeing a lot of fellow summoners everywhere. I'm pretty happy how the Endwalker summoner looks, it's just as I imagined a job called summoner to be like.
I'm calling it now. People are gonna drop smn like mch in 5.0
My main problem with summoner us I didnt really feel like a summoner until bahamut or Phoenix phase so I went back to BLM. Now that suoner is actually summoning things all the time I plan on going back and staying since it is my favorite class in any game its available
I'm loving it so far!
bro, i couldnt click fast enough to come and watch your vid... honestly, this is exactly the video i've been waiting for :D
It will be between red mage and summoner for me personally but Summoner brings something completely new so … but each job is viable !!
Great video! I'm super RDM'ing into EW. ;)
Going smn. To enjoy the job growth in lvl instead of using sch to level it. Then reaper and a tank!
I still wish Red Mage was like how it plays in Final Fantasy Crystal Explorers. It could use a cooldown that allowed it to free cast for 10 seconds. It was a monster with high crit gear.
Simple answer: just main all 3
BLM should get a "defibrillate" ability. Use their Thunder/electric magic to restart someone's heart like a defibrillator machine. :D
EDIT: Oh, as for the video/question itself:
RDM looks like it will mostly play as it has, just faster and with more burst/melee+finishers more frequently. If you like RDM now, you'll like it in EW UNLESS you don't like doing melee much. If you prefer to stay more of a caster/do the casting part more and the melee is just kind of something you do grudgingly, you might not like it AS much.
BLM looks like it will also mostly play the same, with a much more intuitive leveling process and some quality of life changes like Enochian now being more built into your Job via a Trait and stuff like that which should make it more straightforward to play, but the playstyle ITSELF seems like it will largely be the same.
SMN is the wildcard here. It has long been a Green Caller, a status effect (DoT) mage (Green Mage) combined with light summoner (hence Caller), but the Egis are being replaced with actual Summons, and the Demis already were more or less Summons. Instead of a REALLY rigid 2 minute rotation, it looks like the "fixed" points of the rotation are DWT (which now finally and rationally includes Bahamut) and FBT, and what you do in between is now your own decision of what order to use your three Summons in. Since they require different levels of commitment (namely that Ifrit's cast times are long and so should be used during non-movement phases), this will shift SMN a little towards BLM where you need to know the structure of the fight more to be able to adapt and choose your Summon order. Fortunately, Titan and, especially, Garuda, are a lot of instants, meaning you will be free to move with high mobility very very VERY frequently. Ifrit will be the only part of your rotation you're really locked down to use.
This will require a very different way of thinking as SMN, and will also mean different fights may have different optimal orders to use the Eikon Trio, or Egi Trio if you prefer (ET for short :D), since in some fights you might want to use Ifrit > Garuda > Titan, while in another you might want Garuda > Titan > Ifrit. Or, even in the same fight, you might want Ifrit > Titan > Garuda for one part and, in a later part, you might want Titan > Garuda > Ifrit. So even within a single boss fight, different phases in your rotation you might prefer a different order for best results, since you'll be entering this phase every 30 sec or so. Like imagine if, during Eden 12, you used Titan > Ifrit > Garuda in the opener, but then Garuda > Ifrit > Titan the next time the ET were up, and then the time after that, used Ifrit before a phase transition, and then used Garuda > Titan in the following reopener because of a lot of back-to-back movement mechanics. So I could see what is optimal for SMN actually being different even during different parts OF THE SAME FIGHT.
This could add complexity to the theorycrafters trying to decide what is "ultra optimal", but for SMNs in general, what this translates to is "you will have a LOT of flexibility, though to fully get the most out of it, you'll need to take a page from the BLM handbook and learn to think ahead in the fight."
Whether that's a good or a bad thing depends on how you think as a player, I guess? To me, it's an...interesting thing, if nothing else. I'm reserving judgement on if it's good or bad, but at least right now, it definitely looks interesting, and also very cool.
I just don't get what you guys mean by thinking with new summoner. It's literally just "oh the not doing mechanics, let me use ifrit now."
There's only a small handful amount of fights that would require a hard change in egi rotation. Like E11 and E12. There's no complexity in this job.
What it boils down to is, if you can't be in melee range don't use ifrit. Boss moving don't use Garuda
Aa
Next expansion time mage + sch rework would be great
Black Mage rez in 7.0 will slap Living Dead on the rezzed player. It'll only be used on healers in parties with no rdm or smn.
I love that blackmage helmet in the thumbnail. Currently have it glammoured on mine! Personally I'm so ready for Endwalker with my WAR, BLM, DRG and BRD!
so crazy how I do not like DRG or BRD really. 😂
may i know what helmet is that called?
@@locket9160 Sure, it is the Bonewicca Whisperer's Mask. Drops at the 2nd boss in Swallows Compass (Stormblood 70). It also drops in the chests in that dungeon. And it can be bought with the current event tomestones for I think 15 Tomestones of Lore.
@@DrakkarCalethiel thank you for the reply!
@@DrakkarCalethiel actually can you tell me what the weapon that has orange flames are too? sry for the trouble
Nice subtle WoW diss when talking about the balancing lol
WoW: Balancing? What balancing! We just pick a handful specs we love, buff them hard and totally ignore the rest.
FF14: Play whatever you want! There isn't a huge damage impact. (Of couse BRD and DNC do signifficantly less than BLM, but that is expected)
Super excited as RDM main
I am so hyped for summoner 😩😩😩 i cant wait anymore
Oh ich freue mich so sehr auf die Änderungen am Schwarzmagier ( mein Main Job ), ich kann es kaum erwarten 💃💃💃
Smm isn't a dot caster? Welp I'm out, time to pick a new class :(
I started the game as BLM but once I leveled RDM it became my main job, much much more fun imo.
I just switched from smn to rdm I like meele and casting
They should’ve just changed the names to match other ff games. Instead of fire 1/2/3 they could’ve gone with “Fire/Fira/Firaga/Firaja/Blaze/Inferno/Scorch/Hellfire/Flameburst/Magma/Salamander/Will o’ Wisp/Eruption/Meltdown… same for blizzard, and thunder imo.
Healer main since 1.0 now quitting his Job with 6.0. Wanna go full SMN now. I love how he works and without all the Dots i hope double weaving is History now. Not a Friend of double weaving cause my connection really sucks hard.
Probably still double weave a little bit but not much. Energy drain, energy siphon, fester and pain flare are ogcd so will be able to weave them still.
@@princessprincess0039 true but you usually only use 2 of these. ED and Fester are for Single Target and ES and Painflare for Multitarget. Also due to the instants in Bahamut Teanse or also the reduced Cast Time of Ruin 3 you have more possibilities to weave.
@@DantoriusD Totally agree.
SMN and RDM main here, super excited for those changes! Never been a fan of BLM tho lol
Im new to the game and plan on maxing out all the classes but smn is going to be primary first because thats just straight op but im a healer main so until i get there then yea
The casters look to be in a very good spot, as long as the potencies put RDM at lowest DOS best utility, then SMN with the mobility and utility and BLM as damage king, they could be the most balanced role with each having their own niche. BLM is my go to DPS though, so satisfying blowing enemies back so fiercely.
I haven't seen the video yet, but the answer is Black Mage... Black Mage is always the answer. If you aren't playing a Black Mage, you are doing it wrong. Sorry that truth hurts. We have big, awesome explosions. We are the best.
I'll probably go for SMN, i dont like the whole jumping in thing of the rdm and the blm is too immobile for my personal taste. I hope that i find what im looking for in EW
SMN will be king....totally unbiased opinion by me
Isn't always Summoner?
SUMMONER BROS RISE UP
For me its Red Mage love the Mobility :)
For fun I have to agree, red mage and for solo content too.
Just leveld my rdm to 80 and I am pretty hyped! (struggling with finding the right glamour though :c )
@@PinePizza Me too, I especially miss good armor options, since RDM feels more like a Magus than a true caster. And a Magus starts out wearing light armor but is eventually able to wear even heavy.
Currently I'm using the High Allagan Coat of Casting.
Sad you didn’t get the media tour invitation 😢
There is none, play what you enjoy and like.
I main RDM since Stormblood , and i will play them in Endwalker
Clearly, the best moon caster will be.....Paladin.
Red Mage ftw!
Red Mage all the way
thx
WoW type video xD Wh0 wiLL bE ThE MetA ?!?!?!
I'm disappointed with Summoner. It seems like they took an axe to the complexity of it. Sure there is some decision making in when to use each summon, but the actual gameplay when they are out is 1 2 1 2 zzz
I am a summoner main and I also love machinist so I’m totally for this rework. I can have both of what I want in one job woo hooo :)
Been maining smn since arr pre release...the rework is a massive disappointment
BLM dont need party support cos that’s the boss’ class lol
Didn't watch video. Summoner
sry but gandalf is a red mage
very loud and ear bleeding intro
They made black mage easier bleh idky this game becomes easier for every expansion it sucks
It's not really that much easier. You still drop AF/UI if you fail to refresh it. For the average BLM this pretty much just means you have 1 less button to press, and reduces the skill floor a little bit to people that manage to drop enochian while it's on cd somehow. Polyglot cd/extra surecast help but aren't crazy. The new aoe rotation is straight up a damage nerf vs. current cold flare aoe rotation based on the potencies shown while making it slightly "harder".
Besides paradox BLM is mostly just getting an aoe rotation revamp and some nice QoL stuff. Again, I don't really see how the changes make BLM significantly easier.