Something can be flawed and still classic. Daytona is legendary because the circumstances surrounding it, including the point in his career it was released in and the beef it started.
Least controversial Wyoming might've been Nasir or KTSE (which still had their headlines). The album cover and infrared definitely had controversy @@jacquesscott7724
I hope albums go this way with less tracks but more focus on quality. This album didn't have half the tracks most did this year, but it manages to be superior
@𝓛𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓲𝓷 𝓗𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮𝓷 ooooooffff the diversity and grandeur sound of KSG>hard hitting bars of Daytona that pusha has provided since the early 2000s. Love Daytona but i still definitely prefer the experience of KSG and that just straight boils down to my preferences tbh, daytona is definitely a 9 for me and is one of the best this year hands down but KSG is definitely gonna be remembered past my year end lists and far into the future
If there’s any album from this year that’s even close to being called an “instant classic”, it’s Daytona, so I’ll let it pass. I think it’ll be a classic in 10 years.
Maybe classic to you and other pusher die hards, but most hip hop heads agree the album was trash and the only highlight was the drake diss, which wont go down as a memorable beef
Great album probably best of the year however “classic” may be a bit of a stretch, will we really be playing this in 20 year? the same way we listen to Ready to die, All Eyez on me etc... there CLASSIC albums
Look I love this album, but we don’t do artists any good when we throw the “classic” title on their work. Take some time and live with the music, then determine for yourself if it’s a classic. Great album though, ain’t denying that 💪🏽
Kanye’s verse is the weakest, and most distracting part of the album, kinda like his image in 2018. The album is a classic, though. Except for the two guest verses, the album is perfect.
Drake fans are gonna be salty that this is gonna be on more year-end lists than Scorpion. Also, you gave it an 8.3 and this is an instant classic? It's Best New Music but if you guys consider it a classic, I'd expect a higher rating. Anyway glad this series is back.
There is no such thing as an instant classic. For something to be classic it has to influential and genre-defining, and nothing can be instantly influential and genre-defining.
He didnt talk about why it would be a classic, instead he talked more about ye and the drake beef. An album isn't a classic just cause of production and other loosely connected beefs. Where there any running themes? How great was the lyricism? What changed from his last album? Why is the short run time important to its classic status? This was not a good explanation of why it was a good album, it was good but ye and drake dont matter more than pusha's delivery, rhyming and lyricism. Ye's production is important but his verse on what would Meek do isnt a highlight. The album is good, not a classic. It wasnt important to the culture, it didn't change anything and there were a few duds on it as well.
Did you listen to the video? They don't mention the beef until 4:00. Even then it was in reference to the content of infrared. Next time you make a critique at least watch the video. Even then they came back to come back baby at the end. I will say this won't be a mainstream classic, but hip-hop heads will remember this projects for years to come. This will have a cult figure status imo.
@@AQGOAT24 At the halfway point, he starts to talk about what would Meek do and from that point on, it is mostly about kanye (trump) and the drake & pusha beef. The first half of the video is fine except for the fact he wastes time with talking about pusha before this album without talking about what those albums were and why this album's run time matters. He acts like his last 2 albums were not worth talking about and he made a evolution without talking about that change. As a Pusha fan, although it was a good album, this album in terms of style, persona or lyrical prowess, it didn't change my opinion of him. The only difference between Daytona and King Push was run time, beat selection and disjointed themes. King Push is thematic in beat selection and subject matter. Daytona isn't, although I love the production and Pusha's performance throughout the album, it felt like nothing carried over, almost every song could've been on any album. Kanye did a great job on the boards but a terrible job as the executive producer. To get back to the video above, he acts like this was first album in this style which isnt true and doesn't bring up past outside of the fact that there is past work, doesn't explain the importance of the runtime, then talks about if you know, you know and the games we play in depthly (best part of the video), but gets unfocused for the rest as he talks about kanye and trump and then the drake beef more than he talks about the rhymes of what would meek do and infrared and acts like those those things were the best things about the album when that has nothing to do with the quality of the tracks. Video gets a 1/5, Daytona gets a 3.5/5.
@AQGOAT24 i did focus too much about the 2nd half of the video, good looks. But to refute your gripes specifically, he didn't use the drake beef to highlight the strengths of the song, just to segway into the effects of the song. And I wasn't just talking about the the drake beef but also the emphasis on Kanye and his trump shit instead of quickly talking about the quality of the verse and then moving on cause the verse wasn't good enough to warrent it being treated as a major highlight of the album. And why will this album be remembered for Hip-Hop Heads? It didn't change anything, it was good lyrically and production wise but what else makes it special? XXXTENTACION did the short album first, so that can't be it. What makes this album special? The disrespectful album art which is Whitney Houston's ACTUAL bathroom at the peak of her drug addiction? What is special about this album? The same old (but excellent) but loosely connected drug raps?
Nah it opens explaining why it is a classic. It's a coming of age for Pusha as an artist and it's a ridiculously tight album that covers a narrow range of current topics.
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Daytona is a great album. And I want to see more love to Aesop Rock's The Impossible Kid (2016). People still discovering Aesop, and for that matter, Brother Ali.
@@michaeljordan-jackson-tyso2243 only 70k bought it actually. The other shit was just streams. Kendrick went platinum just off of SALES not streams. Then went platinum again off of streams. Oh and for scorpion 2nd week only 15k bought it. Plus this shit was a double album so each stream counted as 2 on a album with 20+ tracks. If it was shorter it woulda sold half cause less streams so. And yeah i actually expected your reply to say shit bout sales. Thats all Drake fans care about. Even then they dont get the sales right. Nobody payin for this shitty drake album. Everyone just streamin the 5 good songs that are bangers.
You really think you'll get back to this 21 minutes album in 10 years, listen to that Dis Track and go "Wow, yeah, that was the shhh." ? 'Cos I don't. It's good, might even be great. But not a classic. ( Or maybe you mean Instant Classic as in Instant Coffee : It's not actually one but it'll do for now. )
the only reason people are calling this a classic is because he torched Drake one week after releasing it. nobody would care about this album if he didn't diss drake or if drake didn't responded
sk8kidize don’t get me wrong the album is fucking great, but it’s really not that much better than Black Thoughts releases or the Book of Ryan. Those albums got slim to none recognition, and Pushas was only elevated by the diss tracks
T Chamb lmao 😂 I bet you find drakes music inspiring. It’s funny how say that and support dej loaf trash ass. Your opinion on rap music is invalid as fuck
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How you just gonna skip over Santeria like that. One of the best songs.
@OneSilentGiant 👏👏 I'm just a short stone thrown from the street
Best track on the album
Santeria is literally the first thing you hear in the video
I like how it's the Intro song to this video yet it's skipped
@andres villogas Maaan, that's what i said
Pitchfork - "iNsTanT cLaSsic!"
Gives it an 8.3
Instant Classic but only an 8.3? Pitchfork make a fool of themselves
This is what happens when you're company's as big as Pitchfork. Different voices are constantly in dissonance.
Harshil Bodalwala they hit it w the 8.3 cause of the MAGA hat let's not kid ourselves guys
Always thought they graded it low, along with all Kanye releases this year do to his politics.
Something can be flawed and still classic. Daytona is legendary because the circumstances surrounding it, including the point in his career it was released in and the beef it started.
I thought anything over an 8 is a classis in terms of picthfork
The grammys really snubbed kids see ghosts though
whydontiknowthat I figured they were gonna only nominate One of the Wyoming albums
Hugo Denim and they’d pick the best least controversial
whydontiknowthat At least the Pusha might be a Grammy
Least controversial Wyoming might've been Nasir or KTSE (which still had their headlines). The album cover and infrared definitely had controversy @@jacquesscott7724
ALBUMS OF THE YEAR:
1. DAYTONA
2. Oxnard
3. DiCaprio 2
KOD
KOD was great, and I only heard 3 songs off of Redemption.
@@redshirts4757Saba - Care for me
@@etds4288 Eminem - Kamikaze
SRS?
Daytona > Invasion Of Privacy
You're dumb
Why would you disrespect this album like that? Couldn't you just compared it to KSG?
I forgot about that Cardi album
Mark Lubashevscky if you had to place push’s album with cardi’s ... your mentality is not here... yikes brother..
Noname > Cardi + Nicki combined
I hope albums go this way with less tracks but more focus on quality. This album didn't have half the tracks most did this year, but it manages to be superior
sigh
Pusha T matched the beat quality and it became a classic
KSG is an instant classic 😠
But Kanye doesn't go with P4K's agenda sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo snub.
True.
Both are
I wonder how many people would think that if melon didn’t give it a 10
@𝓛𝓸𝓼𝓽 𝓲𝓷 𝓗𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮𝓷 ooooooffff the diversity and grandeur sound of KSG>hard hitting bars of Daytona that pusha has provided since the early 2000s. Love Daytona but i still definitely prefer the experience of KSG and that just straight boils down to my preferences tbh, daytona is definitely a 9 for me and is one of the best this year hands down but KSG is definitely gonna be remembered past my year end lists and far into the future
It is still rap album of the year
Pieces of a Man>
earl
Drogas Wave tho
I think Denzel, Earl, and Mick are all up there for contending
Nah Earl’s album easily
I thought DAYTONA was an 8.3?
neorealiti anything above a 7 is a classic to people now
they didn't wanna credit kanye anymore lol so 8.3 was as high as they could make it
I thought 8.3 was an obviously high note?
Lol right? A classic is a 10/10
F&L by Lupe was a 7.9 and it's a classic soooo
When I heard that tennis ball line I instantly knew he really moved dope 💯🙌🏽
Pusha t is definitely a genius
And you’re a moron
My sneeze from yesterday; instant classic.
This is one of the best 10 hip hop albums of all time, sorry that not everyone can hear that.
It's not even top 3 of Pusha's/Clipse's
Y’all didn’t even mention Santeria ??
An "Instant Classic" yet Pitchfork's 17th album of the year. Kanye didn't lock Pusha T in that resort in Wyoming for the 17th slot fam
Only kanye can make something like ksg Daytona and I love it in a single year
Facts😂😂😂
If there’s any album from this year that’s even close to being called an “instant classic”, it’s Daytona, so I’ll let it pass. I think it’ll be a classic in 10 years.
Maybe classic to you and other pusher die hards, but most hip hop heads agree the album was trash and the only highlight was the drake diss, which wont go down as a memorable beef
dave g No lol most hip hop heads definitively do not think this album was trash in any way whatsoever
Great album probably best of the year however “classic” may be a bit of a stretch, will we really be playing this in 20 year? the same way we listen to Ready to die, All Eyez on me etc... there CLASSIC albums
An instant classic is a paradox. But editing is amazing on this.
King Push🔥🔥🔥🔥 love Daytona but really looking forward to the next project
I think Kids See Ghosts has more classic potential. It will take years to find out though.
Daytona AOTY
Daytona album of the year
3:25 tries to explain wack Kanye line and kanye saying "SCOOP, WOOOP" lol
"...Pusha's rapper turned hustler persona" Whaaaat? ARE. YOU. TALKING. ABOUT. MAAAAN
Where’s all the pusher fans from the deleted adidon videos that were talking bout Drakes career being over??? How’s that going??? Lmao
I have one question, who made this video? The edits are great.
Look I love this album, but we don’t do artists any good when we throw the “classic” title on their work. Take some time and live with the music, then determine for yourself if it’s a classic. Great album though, ain’t denying that 💪🏽
I like this album a lot, but I guess words have no meaning anymore.
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Good call by Ye to switch the album cover
Lol I fucking love the album but nobody is gonna remember it in 5 years probs not even 2
Pitchfork: *posts a video calling daytona an 'instant classic" 6months after its release only because it was just nominated for a grammy*
Hell hath no fury is still the best pusha T project
yall need to lose that blurry visual fx its trash
If ya'll know my song I'll give you my 🍟 Watch it💝
Every song is a slapper bruh
This video should be longer
So push tryna be hov now is that what u sayin?
The fuck is an instant classic ?
god i love this channel
Hi
LOVE THESE EDITS OOF.
You know what is an instant classic? Man on the Moon: The End of Day
ain't no such thing
what's the song in the beginning called?
Santeria. It's on Daytona
@@kingdeedee thanks
Santeria is one of the dopest songs I've heard all year.
0:36
REPEAT
FACT
Kanye’s verse is the weakest, and most distracting part of the album, kinda like his image in 2018.
The album is a classic, though. Except for the two guest verses, the album is perfect.
This album instant classic
69 instant rap legend
My comment instant top comment
Y'all gave Invasion of Privacy a higher score than this, but this is a classic huh. Make up your mind
Drake fans are gonna be salty that this is gonna be on more year-end lists than Scorpion. Also, you gave it an 8.3 and this is an instant classic? It's Best New Music but if you guys consider it a classic, I'd expect a higher rating. Anyway glad this series is back.
There is no such thing as an instant classic. For something to be classic it has to influential and genre-defining, and nothing can be instantly influential and genre-defining.
Kanye’s beats are the best plane in the world. Pusha T is the best pilot
how does anyone know what a classic months after it came out. Instant classic is a contradiction. I love this album btw
Woah what the hell I'm for this but it caught me off guard highkey
Nah, Love Push And Ye but NOT YET
Rap album of the year!!
Hold on now brother, got a little too much dip on your chip!
this was dope. Pusha? As always, DOPE!
Anyone who disliked this them drakes
cool. so it wasn't only me that found this one of the top hip-hop albums of recent. it's been a regular feature on my spotify since it came out.
I wanna talk to all you addicts out there
Daytona 500 by Ghostface is a classic.
One of the first things pitchfork has got right
Instant classic my bollox!!
I guess we now know what meek would do.
Good video. Gonna check the album
It’s a pretty incredible album, all killers no fillers.
But cmon, it’s not an “instant classic”
Even kids see ghosts was better..
Thats something I like to see.
Voiceover on POINT!
Instant
I agree. Instant Classic
Trapdoor, Trapdoor, Ttt-trapdoor, Trapdoor
He didnt talk about why it would be a classic, instead he talked more about ye and the drake beef. An album isn't a classic just cause of production and other loosely connected beefs. Where there any running themes? How great was the lyricism? What changed from his last album? Why is the short run time important to its classic status?
This was not a good explanation of why it was a good album, it was good but ye and drake dont matter more than pusha's delivery, rhyming and lyricism. Ye's production is important but his verse on what would Meek do isnt a highlight. The album is good, not a classic. It wasnt important to the culture, it didn't change anything and there were a few duds on it as well.
Did you listen to the video? They don't mention the beef until 4:00. Even then it was in reference to the content of infrared. Next time you make a critique at least watch the video. Even then they came back to come back baby at the end.
I will say this won't be a mainstream classic, but hip-hop heads will remember this projects for years to come. This will have a cult figure status imo.
@@AQGOAT24 At the halfway point, he starts to talk about what would Meek do and from that point on, it is mostly about kanye (trump) and the drake & pusha beef. The first half of the video is fine except for the fact he wastes time with talking about pusha before this album without talking about what those albums were and why this album's run time matters. He acts like his last 2 albums were not worth talking about and he made a evolution without talking about that change. As a Pusha fan, although it was a good album, this album in terms of style, persona or lyrical prowess, it didn't change my opinion of him. The only difference between Daytona and King Push was run time, beat selection and disjointed themes. King Push is thematic in beat selection and subject matter. Daytona isn't, although I love the production and Pusha's performance throughout the album, it felt like nothing carried over, almost every song could've been on any album. Kanye did a great job on the boards but a terrible job as the executive producer.
To get back to the video above, he acts like this was first album in this style which isnt true and doesn't bring up past outside of the fact that there is past work, doesn't explain the importance of the runtime, then talks about if you know, you know and the games we play in depthly (best part of the video), but gets unfocused for the rest as he talks about kanye and trump and then the drake beef more than he talks about the rhymes of what would meek do and infrared and acts like those those things were the best things about the album when that has nothing to do with the quality of the tracks. Video gets a 1/5, Daytona gets a 3.5/5.
@AQGOAT24 i did focus too much about the 2nd half of the video, good looks. But to refute your gripes specifically, he didn't use the drake beef to highlight the strengths of the song, just to segway into the effects of the song. And I wasn't just talking about the the drake beef but also the emphasis on Kanye and his trump shit instead of quickly talking about the quality of the verse and then moving on cause the verse wasn't good enough to warrent it being treated as a major highlight of the album. And why will this album be remembered for Hip-Hop Heads? It didn't change anything, it was good lyrically and production wise but what else makes it special? XXXTENTACION did the short album first, so that can't be it. What makes this album special? The disrespectful album art which is Whitney Houston's ACTUAL bathroom at the peak of her drug addiction? What is special about this album? The same old (but excellent) but loosely connected drug raps?
Nah it opens explaining why it is a classic. It's a coming of age for Pusha as an artist and it's a ridiculously tight album that covers a narrow range of current topics.
@@BrendanMacWade what makes this a "coming of age" moment for pusha? Where is the growth from King Push?
Certified Dope.
The scale never lies
True
Is it?
Excuse me?
Ridicolous
Yeah, for once it’s kinda right
2nd fav project of the year but nah....
what's your 1st fav project of the year?
Bro what is a classic then if it made #2
@@wh8twh8t30 i dont believe in instant classics.... so my #1 aint that either.
@@chefbaxter2211 Gotcha. I have a feeling that this will become a classic later on, but only time will tell.
Drogas Waves
Only modern day classics are good kid mad city and MBDTF
ALLA
Young Naw bro
To Pimp a Butterfly, We've Got It From Here... Thank You For Your Service, Tetsuo And Youth
2014Fhd,Born sinner,Long live asap, Wolf I can go on and on
Where’s the usual narrator? I miss my man Mr. Fork
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Stop & Shoot Films This is definitely a comment related to OP.
Daytona is a great album. And I want to see more love to Aesop Rock's The Impossible Kid (2016). People still discovering Aesop, and for that matter, Brother Ali.
Anyone else get shook when they realized all these good music releases are ALREADY over 6 months old? Time flew by so fast like damn
I got shook when i realized scorpion outsold a whole record label
@@michaeljordan-jackson-tyso2243 Ok. Cool. What else is good bout the album?
@@kendrickduckworth2211 tf,im not a hiphop album analysts. Go ask the 3 milli that bought it.
@@michaeljordan-jackson-tyso2243 only 70k bought it actually. The other shit was just streams. Kendrick went platinum just off of SALES not streams. Then went platinum again off of streams. Oh and for scorpion 2nd week only 15k bought it. Plus this shit was a double album so each stream counted as 2 on a album with 20+ tracks. If it was shorter it woulda sold half cause less streams so. And yeah i actually expected your reply to say shit bout sales. Thats all Drake fans care about. Even then they dont get the sales right. Nobody payin for this shitty drake album. Everyone just streamin the 5 good songs that are bangers.
@@kendrickduckworth2211 boy go smoke.
You Won't Get What You Want is more deserve 'Instant Classic' thing than this
This ain't it, chief.
this is it chief
It's a great album no doubt unfortunately people ALREADY forgot about it
Fortunately. Pusher only got a couple dozen fans
nowhere near a classic and never will be
You really think you'll get back to this 21 minutes album in 10 years, listen to that Dis Track and go "Wow, yeah, that was the shhh." ?
'Cos I don't. It's good, might even be great. But not a classic.
( Or maybe you mean Instant Classic as in Instant Coffee : It's not actually one but it'll do for now. )
the only reason people are calling this a classic is because he torched Drake one week after releasing it. nobody would care about this album if he didn't diss drake or if drake didn't responded
Jakub Gancarz speak for yourself
Fuck Drake
sk8kidize don’t get me wrong the album is fucking great, but it’s really not that much better than Black Thoughts releases or the Book of Ryan. Those albums got slim to none recognition, and Pushas was only elevated by the diss tracks
Facts!
I don t know a single person who bumps pusha t or dis album.
Lol I hate basic rap fans like you.
@@Martin_salcedo i ll be basic. Obviously alot of us are basic in that case. My stance remains regardless of your insult.
@Christopher Goodwin nah,im good. I don t find his music inspiring but it s definitely bland and predictable.
T Chamb lmao 😂 I bet you find drakes music inspiring. It’s funny how say that and support dej loaf trash ass. Your opinion on rap music is invalid as fuck
@@Martin_salcedo i see i struck a nerve...i stated a fact,not an opinion..why are you in your feelings...you all 38hot about some damn rappers..like,ni66a you sound dumb..
Do Francine the Speechless by The Mars Movie next pls