Chinese Chainsaw Challenge - Will it Run? (Unbelievable Amount of Problems)
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- A subscriber purchased a used Kraftworld KW-5800 chainsaw and sent it to me after he ran straight fuel in it. It has not started since. The compression feels low and the engine likely burned up. Can it be be fixed? Should it be fixed? Lets take a look and see if we can bring this one back.
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The expensive cost of buying cheap equipment.
You can buy once, cry once; Or buy continually and cry later at the hideous cost of repairs.
With just the time in labor and research alone, you could probably buy 10 of these saws and hope you get a good one, or buy one really good saw and not have to deal with these problems.
Even worse I found the link below. These saws sells for about $32 wholesale. www.alibaba.com/product-detail/High-Quality-Chainsaw-2-Stroke-5800_1600488897662.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.56914d5fpTvqza
@@jcondon1 Really sad to see mass produced junk like this, it's a gravy train for unethical salesman. I'm sure that these saws are going to end up in landfills and junkyards across the world. If this one saw has so much wrong with it, you know the rest are going to be of similar quality, especially for $32-$50 a saw.
Amen!
thats usually true..........but then I own a little chinesium 12" saw and it has been awesome.......its small,handy and makes pruning down medium trees up a ladder very easy. Is it a trade tool, of course not.......but it has been very versatile and worth the AUD $100 (US $67) I paid for it.
@@wazza33racer Chinese engines are not bad 100% of the time, I have a snow blower with a Chinese engine (Briggs and Stratton) that has started first pull and operated flawlessly for 4 winters now. But, in general the Chinese engines have far more serious design and manufacturing flaws than required to offset the attractive price. I have considerable business experience attempting to source quality products from China...the horror stories far outnumber the successes.....it's a gamble with unfavorable odds.
Whatever you think of the saw, this was a masterclass in small engine fault diagnosis. Thank you and the group for putting in the time, it was very instructive for a DIY guy like me.
One thing about buying a Chinese saw, when you get OEM parts, they are Chinese.
Life lessons in patience and perseverance as well. This video made me a subscriber. Also this was not a long running video for me, I backed up sections to rewatch and absorb your methodical problem solving.
Just came across this video. Best repair analysis I have ever seen. This can be applied to other saws. I am subscribed. Thanks from Maine.
I agree he is a master diagnostician.
This is without doubt one of the best chainsaw repair video's l have ever watched you have the patience of Jobe and your diagnostic skills second to none it was a privilege to watch ,thank you.
I think you should introduce him to your sister
Yeah, or ask him to be the best man at your marriage
Except for parting the saw and change bearings and rings, yes I agree with you 100%. Good job James.
Everyone who regularly watches would agree. His patience and ability to accurately trace/diagnose the true source of a problem(s) not only makes watching enjoyable, it makes learning easy as well. Btw; in case you're interested, it's "Job" not Jobe.
Did you watch till the very end ? He gives credit to other professionals who brainstormed with him .
Hi, Mr. Condon. I live in Thailand. My in-laws own a hardware store in Udon Thani called Udon Hardware(อุดรอุปกรณ์). They sell this type of chainsaw. They range in prices from 45 to 130 usd. Oleo Mac makes a version of this design that's very reliable( model GSH 562). You are working on the less than $100 version. They are notorious for having bad rubber tubes and seals that degrade fast, defective plugs, cheap coils, and more. We have to start and tune every chainsaw we sell. The average consumer here will not be able to start it, much less diagnose it. It's hard to believe, but most are easy to start and run correctly with a bit of tuning from the factory. The US markets are getting saws from the bottom of the barrel. Fortunately, this design is not the worst one we have come across. There are a number of chin ese manufacturers using the same mold and rebadging them for different markets and price points. Sadly, they have turned what was once a simple and effective Japanese design into a laughingstock.
I like the design, but it is sad to see something so new with so many issue.
I am sure the import taxes and shipping costs Jack up the prices of the saws.
So your saying your parents sell this chainsaw for $45 USD?? How much do they buy the chainsaw for? I'm so curious
@@bye92 What I meant was. I've seen it sold online for as low as $45, minus shipping costs. Companies here will contact a chinese manufacturer directly and import one model by the hundreds, more likely 1000+, and sell it directly on sites similar to Amazon. Of course, there is taxes, shipping, and web platform costs to consider. The margins could be as low as $4. What my in-laws do in their store is go through a wholesaler. We buy maybe 50+ units for about $45 and then sell them for as high as $65. The difference in margin is do to the extra service local stores have to provide to the costumer. For example, our shop tests and tunes every chainsaws that goes out the door. There are also the limited parts warranty we provide and the labor is also free for said parts. If we had the capital, the first method is the better business model. Good luck.
I have a couple of Salem Master Saws that look very similar to what he is working on. I don't know if the quality is better, but I have had them for a few years with intermittent use with no issues
The key, though, is I use premixed fuel.
James, you have the patience of a saint and definitely tons of persistence. I would have given up on a cheap Chinese saw after about 15 minutes, but I guess that's not the point of your videos. Keep up the your excellent detailed diagnostic approach and you are a fabulous teacher of a dying profession.
Thank you
James where did you buy the chainsaw sharpener?
The saw was worth fixing for a video. I personally learned a lot. Thank you for taking the time to teach.
Me too, many thanks for the tutorial
Wow ! James that was an exhausting ordeal to watch ! I'm pretty sure at around the 45 minute mark I would have scooped the whole mess up and dropped it in the garbage can. You have stamina my friend and an amazing amount of patience and knowledge ! Oh and the customer is going to receive a bill for $795.00 LOL
You’re a better man than I , Mr. Tony. 30 minutes would have been it for me. Lol
Haha. I hope and expect the strategy involves RUclips income for a very interesting video. The easy ones are boring 😎
The easy ones are boring and your don't learn much.
if not before as soon as the clutch went flying it would have been tossed into the scrap metal trailer or shot with a rifle to put it out of my misery
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I own two Chinese clone saws and they have been good saws, but this is probably the best diagnostic /repair video for this saw on all of youtube.
the real cost of those saws is hidden from you it involves geopolitical takeovers. and controlling countries like hong kong and taiwan
Yes and I will be checking my pulse tube tomorrow thanks bud 👍
We have thrown away 3 chinese shit-saws so far, and will probably Never again buy such chinese shit.
Well… I could have watched a movie tonight. But instead I watched nearly 2 hours of a man fixing another man’s chainsaw in one sitting. I guess that’s age. The amount of times I expected you to throw it off your bench and move on with your life. I certainly would have. You’ve got some knowledge and patience! Well done getting it running. Even when the clutch flew away 😂 loved every minute .
I own a company, we own, and have USED, successfully, a large amount of this machine with NO problems, would recommend it to ANYONE .
Your original diagnosis of fuel leaking under saw was correct. Fuel line was shot. This is by far the best diagnosis/ repair video on you tube. Your were thorough on your thought process and didn’t just throw the parts cannon at it. Keep up the good work.
Gosh, what a journey! There's a reason most of this stuff from China ends up in the trash. Clearly this video is where the value is. So glad I have a Stihl. Thanks for sticking with it James.
My take from all this?All saws break and are finicky but parts for these saws are cheap and plentiful unlike my old Mac and Poulan.
Another award winning job! Your determination to get the saw working correctly is unparalleled!
I bought one years ago off of Ebay. I think it cost $79.00 back then and came in a box that just said chain saw with no other markings. Except for the bar oil leaking all over the shed floor it always starts and runs. Best thing about it you can leave it in the back of your truck and no one will touch it!
These aren't as bad as many people say. I bought one last year for around $120? (Bidenflation) it works fine.
Old cooky man in comment section talking about a homelight passed down from his grandfather to him. Claiming its ran for millions of hours with no problems 😂
It's a 2 stroke not a diesel engine that can go a million miles.
@@michaelbrinks8089i dont chainsaw, i just like to watch these kinds of videos. I read cheap chinese chainsaws can run fine for long time if you take care of them just like with everything else.
Btw a million hours is around 114 years not counting leap years.
@@norbertnagy5514 Seems like something is still wrong with the saw in the video. With a sharp chain it should be cutting those logs faster than it is. Sounds like the engine at full throttle isn't reaching proper/high enough RPMs. Like something is restricted. Its possible its a factory dud. For the price of mine I was Happy with the quality & didn't end up with a dud. I inspected the engine before starting & it didn't come with any dirt inside. Like my 2 stoke motorized bicycle engine did. It was full of factory and metal shavings. Had I not cleaned it b4 using, it wouldn't have lasted long.
Before I bought my China saw online. I checked at Lowes and Menards. Their similar 52cc saws were also from China but cost 2x as much.
In hindsight I still would have bought the cheap China saw I bought.
@@michaelbrinks8089 yep, i noticed it stalling a little in the video.
@@michaelbrinks8089 Back in 1953, one place I worked for received a pair of 500kW Mirlees diesel generator sets (engines from submarines, larger than the average SUV without flywheel and generator attached). These were torn down on a whim before first start, to find a sump and cranks full of metal shavings - "Quality British Engineering"
(Ie: it's not just China which has QC problems)
Thank you , I watched this long video all way through. I bought a Husqvarna over 40 years ago and is well used and no repairs ever needed.
I learned from your video that clutch is left hand drive thread. I would have been tightening it!!!!
Just to add it is all about build quality.
I laughed so hard when the clutch flew off. Hats off to you for fixing all the problems.
I am astounded by the amount of patience you exhibited in the diagnosis and repairs of this saw! I am known to be a patient man, but about halfway through this process I would have placed third in the "Chainsaw Toss" event in the power tool Olympic games! Great video (even at this length it was entirely watchable). All the best to you, James!
Yeah, I would have used this for target practice with a 50 caliber muzzle loader!! Would at least got some fun out of it!
Well, he also knows the camera is on!
Ain't that the truth!!!!!
I owe you a great debt for you sharing your knowledge with me and the rest of the RUclips community.
The input of the collaborators you mentioned are also to be commended for helping you deliver all of this information.
Just excellent !
Thank You !
Sounds like too much are in need to get air cleaner on there
I'll say it again, after most others have already said it. You're amazing. Thank you SO MUCH for not giving up on this saw. Because it should have been abandoned--EXCEPT for the value it allowed you to provide to people like me as we watched you troubleshoot & diagnose & repair & replace. I learned a LOT, thanks to you not throwing in the towel on a saw that, while "new", obviously isn't worth the value of my old Stihl 024 AV Wood Boss from the 1980's (which still runs like a champ today). I was frankly dismayed, even shocked, at the poor quality control of the materials and assembly in that new Chinese saw. The words on the bar are obviously that--only words. "Professional" industrial equipment MUST work and BE better than that saw. If only the line workers, their supervisors, and their bosses in China could watch & understand this. They'd be embarrassed and ashamed. If their political leaders saw this, well . . . heads might literally be lost. You've made a follower of me. I don't repair / tear down equipment frequently. But when I do, learning the tools & procedures & challenges from someone like you will save me time & frustration & money. Thank you for the great job you did explaining your thought processes & actions & logic of diagnostics!
If we had an option of 💯 likes 👍.! Purchased similar saw Dereal 6220G. Same guts, but different case/shell. So far I got a blister at my shoulder. Exactly same thing it’s doing… I would like to say so many thanks that you vent so detailed on rebuild!!! Best video I have seen so far! Watched from beginning to the end. So many quit points, but your patience is rock solid! I’m the same type of guy, I just want to know why? And what is causing not to work properly. Heads down…you nailed it. Thank you so much for doing those kind videos!!! ✌️👍 🇺🇸
You inspire me to move on and fixing mine. Bless your heart my friend!!!
This guy is like a scientist engineer, he likes the challenges without concerns on time or money, fascinating to watch, like an apprenticeship 👏
I have a small engine shop. I made the mistake of buying one of those Harbor Frieght pressure testers once. I promptly got rid of it and bought an OTC brand and it is SO much better. Plus, the company stands behind their tools 100%. The model I have is an OTC 5605 if anyone is interested.
Waisted a lot of time with the HF tester. Works good enough on larger generator engines but not small ones like on a chainsaw.
I have two Harbour freights, a Mastercraft, a Snap-on, and two Starrets. They all read slightly different, I just average between them all. My Harbour freights are more consistent with the average than the others.
Another great video James! Just a note: When tightening the bar cover nuts, lift up on the end of the bar before tightening then tighten while holding the end of the bar up. If you don't, the chain will loosen after the first running, needing another adjustment sooner.
I am guessing you mean up if the bar is lying flat horizontal
@@mattj7124 Nope, vertical. At the end the video, James did hold the end up for the final tightening.
A friend and I each bought one of these saws about 5 years ago and both saws have done a lot of work. Mine needed a new start pulley. Those 8 mm flanged nuts can be found on 10mm Dynabolt masonry anchors. Excellent video, i much enjoyed the clutch taking off across the shop.
It is most gratifying to see that even the most competent end up paying the Dumb A** Tax upon occasion.
Hi , James ,
Well done as usual. I am now physically disabled (stroke) and can't do many things I used to take for granted . I hold an aircraft mechanic license and about every pilot certificate available.
Watching you systematically troubleshoot is very therapeutic for me. Thank you.
Did you ever change out the chain oil ?
Fantastic video. Incredible how you can fix so many problems that by themselves individually make it not run. Then you finally find the last problem and it’s perfect.
I have one of these saws called a “Woodstorm” and it’s seen light use through 10 years now. Running well. Always on alcylate petrol, so I have no issues with rubber and carb deterioration.
The best part is I got it brand new on eBay auction for 250dkk or 30 USD. Won 3 of them for that price and sold off 2 to friends.
I've had one of these for about 14 years. It hasn't had heavy use, just occasionally, but I've always had problems with it. This video is going to be so helpful to me in the future to keep it going, so thank you !
Great video. You have incredible patience. If it was me, that saw would have been flying through the air towards the junk pile a long time ago!!
I want to praise your dedication into fixing the saw. You went way beyond the pale. My hair and my hair are both off to you, you did a phenomenal job. Especially with troubleshooting the numerous problems rather than just replace all the parts at once as most repair people would do. Once again kudos to a job well done.
Former Auto mechanic here. I have little experience with 2 stroke engines. This is a great video on diagnosing this chainsaw. You really didn't have too much money in the repair if you just count the seals and fuel line. I didnt realize how much bad engine seals can effect how a 2 stroke motor runs. I've had tons of car engines that leaked like hell. Bravo on the video. You have a broadcasters voice. Thanks for taking your time on this video. This video is a chainsaw master class!
Thank u for the video and the patience you have. It was fun watching the video.
Sir, may I say you have the patience of a saint and a vocabulary to match. This saw would have pushed me right over the edge. The entire machine is made of Chinesesium. The craftsmanship and quality of the material are atroches.
Cheers from Louisiana.
I've always used drywall or sheet metal screws to get these seals out. Lot less likely you'll get shavings in the bearings. Also gives you something to grab.
Yep or drive a straight pick in with a hammer then flip out the seal, that's how it's taught at trade school. Professionally, speed is of the essence, no time for drilling and cleaning out swarf, plus showing the client the problems at handover doesn't get them worried their crank case is full of crap.
When tightening your bar/chain, lift up on the bar to get correct tension on the chain.
Correct.. and check tension on the bottom, not the top.
Hmmmm- I have never heard that advice but it makes sense.@@Look_What_I_Did
I must say that I was very impressed with your repair and the determination you had to the very end. I couldn't believe the many problems this saw had. Great job.
But is he like this for every repair job he does??? I’d guess no freaking way in hell but who knows?
Really good video. Very detailed and made me laugh when clutch came off. 😂 it happens when doing jobs and at least you didn't edit it.
You have more patience than me.
I would have smashed it and chucked it in the bin when clutch came off.
Well done.
Wow, I'm again impressed! You need a lot of experience to connect the dots and not getting frustrated...
But as you said (differently) - If you buy cheap, you buy twice... ;)
Thanks for filming, collaborating with your peers and sharing this video and putting so much effort in it!!
I could not have figured the plugged pulse line. Kudos to James !
Fabulous trip down the rabbit hole. Enjoyed every minute. And you got some new tools, too!
I've watched many different repair videos on small engines and definitely found this channel to be the best of all.
Your videos are certainly of professional value and haven't yet see you throw the towel in because of a problem diagnosis.
Extremely patient and determined to find the problem and fix it.
I've yet to see a half way slap stick repair .
Wonderful job and thank you !!!
33:05 that small piece of aluminum you found looks oddly like a small piece missing there to the right of the spark plug...
1:16:35 that happens 🤣
Seen that before🤣🤣
As a lumberjack with 25years experience we always used Husqvarna or Stihl!!
At Education on lumberjack-School the repair dude, handed me an Echo Saw.. I went wtf is that, mmmrph😤 Dude forced me to only use echo for a Long time… I must say its a great Saw!!
I noticed your trimmer is Echo🤓
Not by any chance i have had leaking seals on any Saw???!🤷🏼♂️
Been working a lot in People’s gardens, trimning Hedges.. There i learned that Tanaka make great light hedgetrimmers! Next to a heavy stihl!
You did splendid on that cheap crappy Saw dude! Hope the owner link these repear to the manuacturer💯 So they Can pay for your fix, and Maybe make their product better🤷🏼♂️
But i must Saw, buy quality and your Saw runs for 20 years💯
BTW we once had a brand new husqvarna that ran backwards??? 😆
Incredable - nearly every possible problem a poor running + non running chainsaw could have. Amazing the pull rope & recoil didnt brake. You're the best 👍
I was expecting that piston stop to come flying out of there.
This is a great video! For anyone not familiar with “clone” saws from China, they wildly vary in quantity and specifications. This particular model is a clone of a zenoah Japanese saw. They have a very good design and like stated, very popular worldwide. When buying a clone like this, you will see them advertised as 40-62cc. Most often, when advertised as larger displacement, they are in actuality not. That JonCutter you showed at the beginning would be considered more of a better quality zeboah clone. While the same design is used, the quality of plastics, castings and assembly are far batter than the cheapest eBay cheapies. They even have better fuel and oil caps.
Absolutely the best I have seen on here. Very educational and informative for us who tinker around with these small engines. First time I have ran across your channel, and you certainly earned my subscription. Thank you for being so patient and so detailed!
This guy is a serious chainsaw nut and I mean that in a good way!
The amount of patience and effort is unbelievable! He also demonstrated why not to go cheap...sometimes it just doesn't pay.
I have my collection costing from a few hundred bucks up to about $1600.00 with a mix of Husky, Sthil and Echo.
If I ever pick up a cheapo Chinese it'll be an experiment to see if I can master it's "difficulties"!
Excellent sir…I also had a 2 stroke with an air leak . Replaced the seals and sealed the mower case with Honda bond. 30 year old mower runs like new now.
Great video. In retrospect, the fuel leak onto the table at the start was an indicator of the fuel line problem
I've been looking at a problematic chain saw which has some parallels to this video, so this video has given me some pointers to look at areas I'd not considered before - so, yes, your video did help someone - thanks :-)
My carb screws were around 3-4 turns out, so an indication of a bad carb, or an air leak. Usual maintenance and replacement bits didn't solve things, so a replacement clone carb was fitted, this had two faults direct from the factory which sent me down the wrong rabbit holes for a while. The spring under the needle/seat was mashed into the fastening screw and would have never worked, the second was was that the tip from the high jet had snapped off in the carb and was completely blocking the high fuel delivery. Think I'm going to check any subsequent carbs and adjust them before use.
I'm currently waiting on another replacement carb to arrive, but it looks like I've got an air leak to locate and I know the techniques to locate them now - thanks
This episode came at just the right time for me, as I’m restoring two old 18” chainsaws (Homelite and Craftsman). I thought I had a pretty good grasp of things, but your video helped me see some potential issues before I pass them over. Super helpful!! FWIW, I found myself talking to you during the video saying yes, yes, I agree, NO, don’t do that!! You would have done the same for me. 😂
I don’t think anyone would argue that you could easily work anywhere on the Kraftworld assembly line after that ordeal. This near new saw came from the factory with stripped nuts, blocked and cracked lines and a dull chain? How is that possible? I burst out laughing when that clutch clutch exited stage right. Glad you didn’t wear it. Love your vid’s. Learned a ton.
Yeah I was in South Korea in the 80's and saw "factories" that were tiny out-buildings next to the workers' home with dirt floors and three very skinny guys doing their best to build things with terrible tools and no training. I'll bet the low end of Chinese manufacturing is like that. It's a spectrum. At the other end are the folks who make iPhones.
I think the saw suffered two bad users before it made it to James. First owner ran with the break on, second owner ran straight gasoline with no oil. The fact that the saw died as quickly as it did may have ultimately saved it. . . from the end users.
Thank you for demonstrating the compression tester. I had a large engine tester from harbor freight and got same results as you. I had self proclaimed experts online ridicule me when i asked if i needed a small engine compression gauge. They all said it makes no difference and i just didnt know what i was doing. But i bought a small engine gauge anyway, and started getting accurate readings.
James, you have the patience of a saint. I would have bought three saws by the time you finished this saw. You are an inspiration!!
watching the video I was certain that saw was a lost cause. Then one by one you meticulously went over and repaired each obstacle. In the end the saw looks and runs perfect. What an incredible video it kept me on the edge of my seat. 😎 👍
Unbelievable James, Your Knowledge and Patients. You bring new meaning to the phrase "If you never give up - you're never disappointed. I truly admire your determination and stamina. Thank you for all that you do.
Your tenacity to keep up after this saw with its many problems due to poor quality control and cheap parts is impressive love the warp speed camera shots along with the many camera shots showing the issues and solutions fascinating how you diagnosed each problem, your editing skills are just fantastic! I just keep learning more from your videos. Thanks, James
You missed the key points of the video. The previous owner said he had used not an oil-gasoline mixture, but only gasoline. The pure gasoline fuel deteriorated the fuel line creating cracks. The multitude of cracks in the fuel line allowed the engine to suck in excessive air depriving fuel to the engine, hence, the engine stalls and resists start-up. Finally, Condon mistakenly torqued the clutch connectors too loose. Consequently, the engine destroyed the clutch once it started. YTuber Project Farm evaluated this $100 USD chainsaw against the $500 Stihl, and found it quite a compelling buy. Don’t assume made-in-China tool are poor quality - that’s the dogma certain domestic tool makers want the gullible consumer to believe.
Great video. Because of the number of problems with this saw, I learned a lot. There's a lot of value buying cheap junk. They break easy and always in need of repair. It's what is learned by having to disassemble, diagnose, replace and reassemble. I never learned anything from my Stihl. Thanks for posting.
Hi James, My story: Fourteen years ago as a new homeowner I bought one of those cheep at dirt Amazon Chain saws ≈ 100. I just figured I'd be nice to it and rub it weekly with a clean cloth diaper in a slow circular motion and put good gas in it. It should work real fine and last a long time. I cut down and cut up only one tree about 8 inches in diameter. Took about 45 minutes and at the end of the job the saw quit and never ran again. As a newbie I took the saw to ace hardware and the guy told me it was done for. Scorched cylinder wall he said. It would cost more to fix than a new saw he said. I took that saw home and with the help of the kids we invented a game much like horseshoes of throwing the saw from one end of the yard to the other for sport. This video helped me work through that painful memory of wasting a hundred bucks on cheap Amazon Chinese junk. I really appreciate the thorough disassembly and diagnostics you did on this one. Yes, I left the Ace with an ECHO CS-400 18 in and I use it all the time.
Hi James. I couldn't help but get a good laugh when the clutch came right off! lol I blame the substandard saw and not you for sure. Guess what brand of saw I will avoid at all costs? Yep the Chinese clone ones. You get what you pay for, and in this case you get what you cross your fingers for. Great work and huge patience as always James.
Excellent investigative work James and great find on the obstructions in the fuel line. Continue the good work, love those videos.
Ah, Chinesium! They didn’t even charge extra for the added rubber bits in the impulse line. That was fun working with all of us!
No extra charge for pre-cracked fuel line and already ovalled seals!
The Chinese are laughing at us while we buy products made in china!
Not to mention the random piece of aluminum he found when he removed the muffler.
You do have the patience of a saint after the 4th episode I would have been looking for the trash pile. I just could not let go watching you not giving up! You are indeed a professional and at the same time entertaining. Good Show my friend we need more like you in this world.
Thanks for the video James. I have one of those chain saws in the garage belonging to my son inlaw.The pull start main spring was broken. I replaced the whole assembly with a bit of tweaking got it to fit. Fortunately the spring broke before they got it to start as there was no oil in the fuel. I put the fuel in my 4stroke mower. works fine ,no smoke. I just have to get it started now. It use to run fine prior to the broken spring. Thanks again
Wow, that was quite a marathon. The saw was asking to go to the recycler at each step. Amazing you were able to get this running better than new. Very well done.
A good example to show how even a simple 2 stroke engine can have a lot of issues. Some in this saw may be the design, some may be the parts, some may be the manufacturing.
Some nice spalting in the wood of the bigger log section.
Dave.
I gotta say I'm impressed with your knowledge and dedication to resolving this problem because if it was me 15 minutes in I would have looked up a random wedding nearby that was coming up and tied it to the cans behind the car because just throwing it away wouldn't satisfy me 😆
lmao -i hear ya
That was a great example of methodical troubleshooting. Well done James!
Amazing one saw and you covered every possible thing that could go wrong with one of these in one video. Wow right out of the factory with everything wrong. Great quality control. Thanks for another great video. Now I have to go fix my Poulan Pro
Great video regarding 2-strokes in general, and saws specifically. Crank seals are definitely a very big deal in this case !
I sure hope the factory gets to see this. They've probably never seen one run.
Yea no doubt, bet they don’t even know what they’re used for😂
@@mikerossman9863 I don't think this saw could make it in that part of the world knowing what kind of trees they're dealing with
Chinese saws are to steal jobs from the western world
He has patience I would have thrown it in the trash!
The Chinese factory doesn’t care. They have their $$$$$!
Wow that was amazing. I appreciate that you did not give up. The knowledge gained from your video was well worth it. You are definitely the most tenacious trouble shooter I have ever seen.
Very entertaining and informative. You got it running as good as it gets. I have owned several of those cheapies and I learned my lesson. I'm now running a Husqy and will never look back.
This man WILL NOT be deterred!
Determination Defined !
Another great video Jim. Just another example of the age old expression: "There is nothing more expensive...then cheap".
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The word "then" means sequential.
Seriously James, you truly are impressive to watch. Thank you for sharing these videos with us.
I had to subscribe and give a thumbs up for the immense amount of patience that you had with that Chinese piece of garbage. The fact that you found the problems and fixed them says a lot about your mechanical ability. I have been running saws for many years, yet I still learn new tricks and details from watching videos on YT. Thanks so much for posting.
With oil all over the place; worn out seals, extensive fuel line damage and a chain that couldn't cut butter, somebody wore out this machine before unloading it with just 2 minutes left. Your problem-solving skills are amazing and your perseverance turned out a really great video! Good conceptual understanding of 2-stroke insights and technology.
Wore it out without a the slightest bit of deposits and wear on the piston and cylinder walls?
That massive leak out of the crank shaft seal makes a bunch of sense why it has so many issues
I've had a 52CC cheap ($100) Chinese chainsaw. Starts on usually 4-6 pulls tops and cuts extremely well with an Archer Semi Chisel chain. I've never had any major issues with it.
Wow. Seems like that saw was a piece of junk straight from the factory. I admire your patience and perseverance in getting this saw running! Congrats on turning another item that would otherwise be in a landfill into a useful tool.
not really.. the idiot that bought it used straight gas without oil mix.. ruined it completely as it started fine.. ran a few minutes as it ate the rings without any oil and killed it.
Thanks James. I had the laugh of the week and my tummy is still in pain from the laughter when that clutch flew off. Love it!!
James, I normally would not have watched a video this long but the troubleshooting that you did was nothing short of amazing. It kept me on the edge of my seat. Never would have thought that there could be so many contributing factors to one problem. I'm glad I stumbled onto your channel. Can't wait to see next video.
Jim, you owe me 6 bucks for the 4 coffees it took to get through this entire video!
The crankshaft seal should have high-temp sealant on the outer rim. Not every brand puts it on from the factory, but they do better with it, especially at the engine pan interface.
A Chinese chainsaw that has unbelievable amount of problems is actually believable. 😂
quality out of control.
What was your total time and labor and how much in parts to fix this chainsaw? I know you could’ve bought a new one for what you have into it but I’m curious.
@@truthandlies-nl1ri $50 excl man hours. New one he said was on discount and was $35!!
All over the place with qc.
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Good gosh James. I have never seen a man with so much patience!!! You have it in SPADES !!!
Thank you for posting this excellent video. What an amazing repair that you did! I am so impressed!
Instead of drilling the seal and chancing some chips getting inside, just drive a drywall screw in and pull on it. Works great.
No it does not.
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It might do for him.....???
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq Nope. I've been watching him for a long time now.
He then named it Frankenstien's Monster 😮
The threads on the crank actually look rounded to me
It's an odd measurement...1mm rather than the usual 1.25mm pitch.
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq awww okay that makes sense
1 hour 50 mins but stayed till the end, great perseverance and knowledge, thank you. I've just finished rebuilding my 2nd hand post hole digger that I bought 5 years ago when I retired to Portugal, it was old and gnarled then but it's a great feeling of acheivement now its back together running and looking years younger, like new again!👍👍👍
It would have been a much shorter video about what WASN'T wrong with this chainsaw.
I have owned and maintained several of these chainsaws in sizes 45-58cc, and they have been stunningly good value. Most do no have a throttle lock, they start on closed throttle (ie hands off); and they don't have a purge bulb. From cold with GOOD fuel in the tank, pull it over slowly a couple of times THEN full choke and pull it until it pops off (max three pulls), then half or no choke, pull it again and it should idle quite smoothly, let it warm (to avoid cold seizure) and get cutting. Here is a demo of how easily they should start: ruclips.net/video/M4qmV9bgcvw/видео.html .
A great example of why TO NOT buy China's junk. Thank you James.
I do agree with you about China but It really wasn't the saws fault it was the guy that strait gassed it. I was given as a Birthday present a Chinese backpack blower EB650, and the thing is absolutely amazing!!! I blow snow, grass, leaves, rocks sticks, and whatever needs blown away. In my opinion if someone uses the right mix and does the proper maintenance the Chinese machines will work and last. Just my 2 cents
@garyalensr James stated the straight gas did no harm. China is selling inferior products to America. Companies like Temu owned by communist China will ultimately ruin this nation unless Americans wise up.
James, you should do a video on how to make videos that people don't fast forward on and enjoy and learn from. No blasting music and straight to the point. If awards were given for RUclips, you'd win. There's shows on Discovery that aren't this professional. You should be on PBS like Bob Ross. Fantastic work.
Well that was all rather unexpected! What a simply wonderful piece of story telling and fault diagnosis. I simply do not know how you kept your cool. Thank you for this, it has made for one of my most enjoyable RUclips experiences ever. 😀
I suggest this person gets a battery operated chainsaw instead 😂
Also much better for the neighbours
Hi James, saw looks like alot of other Chinese branded saws- I think consumers are better off to purchase a known brand than unknown Chinese brands..
How about if you could buy this saw ex factory at $32 to $50 each?
Fun Fact! The original video was over five and half hours long. Don't worry, we left all the good stuff, we just edited out "that goD#$$%# better F$#$^^ start this time!" out.
Thanks for walking thru makingbthecsaw to work. I have similar model which givingvne headache and this video really help a lot. I admire your patience and diligence in making the saw to work. Thanks a lots
You’re a better man than me I would have thrown that chainsaw out a long time ago. With all the work you’ve put into that I would have charged a ton of money. I hope whoever you fixed it Four is very appreciative.
Amazing video.. boy did you bite off a chunk. This is a brand new saw after you get done with it and better than it was when new.. what shoddy workmanship to begin.. good job. I have a CASTOR im getting ready to redo to see if i can get it going..and this gives me a good chance on what to look for.. thanks.
Wow what a pain in the behind. Hats off to you for being so patient.
THANKYOU! Same problem after I pulled the same weedeater model out of winter storage. I did what you said and it fired right up.