I don't want to be mean or something, but there are so many things that can be improved with this build. Please consider my comment as a constructive feedback: - Never use gate of eruption as awakening if you are 1370+. You can easily reach over 1500 spec and that's more than enough to transform in one skill rotation even if you miss some skills. You lose about an entire transformation worth of damage by not running the other awakening, that's the only burst you have. - Running higher spec is better than running 5 engravings. You have multiple breakpoints as a shadowhunter -> transform in 4 skills with 3 runes ar 1640 spec (full tripods), getting 3 blood massacre and leaping blow in one transformation (need as much spec as you can to have more room for error -> idealy over 1700 and lvl 9 cd gems)... And every 100 spec is about 10% flat damage (+awakening damage), excluding the utilty of transforming faster and staying in demonic form longer. - You should use the legendary wealth rune on demonic vision, it gives you the most meter (howl meter gain has been nerfed in the balance patch). This way you can transform in 4 skills as I mentioned before. Put the other 2 purples in Howl and demonic grip. - Never use CD tripods in human form. You can literally transform in 4 skills, even if you miss your demonic vision entirely, you can still do it in less than one rotation, you just need as much spec as you can and the tripods. Better use swiftness tripods, you'll hit more consistent due to high attack speed. - Don't use legendary galewind on blood massacre. From my experience, the only way I can die as a shadowhunter is by getting stucked in gore bleed animation which is the longest. Use the legendary galewind on this skill instead. You'll be surprised, but even if it does low damage in multiple hits, in a real fight it deals more damage than leaping blow, but less than blood massacre. - Quick recharge is optional and doesn't impact that much even when it triggers (very rare) if you have what I mentioned before. I personally use legendary overwhelm for the destruction skill to get more stagger, but that's just a preference. - The "grasp of death" tripod for the human form counter is insanely good -> it basically give you a double counter with an insane range. It is even better than the one in demon's form because of the aoe radius and the best part about it is that you can precast rather than timing it perfectly. - You should not use the crit rate tripod on demonic clone. Instead, use the push imunity tripod. You don't do damage in human form, you need just utilty from tripods and if you get canceled while doing demonic clone animation, you lose a lot of identity meter.
If you wanna min max your rotation as demon form, you should use bleed on W, rage on Q start combo with q or w to aply debuff, use AS only after you applied that priorize SA, WREQ these do the most DPS in order
Thanks, man! I’ll definitely check it out after I translate the key binds as I’ve used a Naga mouse on this game rather than the default kbs since alpha, beta, and on RU :P
@xewei good to know, even if it will never happen if not on trixion imo Never getting lv 9 cdr gem nor swiftness on demonic Crit is just a better substat on her, better ceiling with keen aswell
@@exorigran I hit A+S 3 times in a transformation every single time in a real fight with lvl 9 cd gem and 1700 spec. I was hitting it even with lvl 7 cd, but it was really tight. You just need more spec to do it properly, just use S first, than use A, this way they will have the exact same CD... And you get the party synergy from Howl in human form that lasts for 16s. I've seen many people doing the mistake of attacking with anything else first and that's how you lose a lot of dps.
Raid captain might be better than hit master since hit master doesn’t affect awakening damage. This is assuming u run spec swift so demon =20% + like 5-8% from neck + 8% yearning + rage rune proc
Raid captain is crucial for the hallucination build and spec swift neck, for sure. Hit Master is an excellent engraving for both builds, though. I’m not too concerned about awakening damage, as I am using Gate for the utility, aka free insta demon form during downtime in a fight, like when you have to hide behind pillars on Valtan. I can just pop Gate under him and let it give me 100 meter while I’m doing the mechanic.
Eventually, I would add grudge for sure. Raid captain and keen blunt will also be extremely useful for DI SH (make sure you’re hitting the movement speed/crit requirements for those, which shouldn’t be a problem). Cursed doll is another good option, because your health gain from transformation is not impacted by the negative on that engraving.
Sometimes you just have to rebuild your character from scratch, yeah. I had to do that with my Wardancer. After going FI and full swiftness, I really enjoy playing her now!
There are two viable builds for SH, depending on the playstyle: Hallucintaion (and a spec/swift neck) and Salvation (and a spec/crit neck). I personally went with Salvation for a little more consistency and I believe it also has higher damage potential (as long as you don't dip below 30% HP). Hallucination is a really nice amount of crit though, which is good for shadowhunter, and I know it is slated to receive some changes in the next balance patch, so we'll see if that might pull ahead for SH. For now, I am going Salvation.
It definitely is! Plus, the wealth runes aren’t too difficult to farm (you’ll have them eventually). I really do enjoy this class as an alt, and it’s a great way to get into legion raids without spending as much gold on your build as you will on other classes.
@@beebbopp2049 ok okey ty. Yeah i'm a paladin main but my other alts (wardancer and soulfist) are just too expensive with the engravings. I give it a try tomorrow! ty
@@exorigran Just stop while you're ahead. It is most definitely playable without all wealth runes. Is it META? No but it's definitely still fun and good damage.
I definitely understand wanting to see some numbers behind the build, however, damage tests add more time to already long videos. I feel like it’s much more helpful to show how to put together the build and how to play it. Everyone is fully capable of taking that knowledge to Trixion and testing the damage themselves.
I don't want to be mean or something, but there are so many things that can be improved with this build. Please consider my comment as a constructive feedback:
- Never use gate of eruption as awakening if you are 1370+. You can easily reach over 1500 spec and that's more than enough to transform in one skill rotation even if you miss some skills. You lose about an entire transformation worth of damage by not running the other awakening, that's the only burst you have.
- Running higher spec is better than running 5 engravings. You have multiple breakpoints as a shadowhunter -> transform in 4 skills with 3 runes ar 1640 spec (full tripods), getting 3 blood massacre and leaping blow in one transformation (need as much spec as you can to have more room for error -> idealy over 1700 and lvl 9 cd gems)... And every 100 spec is about 10% flat damage (+awakening damage), excluding the utilty of transforming faster and staying in demonic form longer.
- You should use the legendary wealth rune on demonic vision, it gives you the most meter (howl meter gain has been nerfed in the balance patch). This way you can transform in 4 skills as I mentioned before. Put the other 2 purples in Howl and demonic grip.
- Never use CD tripods in human form. You can literally transform in 4 skills, even if you miss your demonic vision entirely, you can still do it in less than one rotation, you just need as much spec as you can and the tripods. Better use swiftness tripods, you'll hit more consistent due to high attack speed.
- Don't use legendary galewind on blood massacre. From my experience, the only way I can die as a shadowhunter is by getting stucked in gore bleed animation which is the longest. Use the legendary galewind on this skill instead. You'll be surprised, but even if it does low damage in multiple hits, in a real fight it deals more damage than leaping blow, but less than blood massacre.
- Quick recharge is optional and doesn't impact that much even when it triggers (very rare) if you have what I mentioned before. I personally use legendary overwhelm for the destruction skill to get more stagger, but that's just a preference.
- The "grasp of death" tripod for the human form counter is insanely good -> it basically give you a double counter with an insane range. It is even better than the one in demon's form because of the aoe radius and the best part about it is that you can precast rather than timing it perfectly.
- You should not use the crit rate tripod on demonic clone. Instead, use the push imunity tripod. You don't do damage in human form, you need just utilty from tripods and if you get canceled while doing demonic clone animation, you lose a lot of identity meter.
Not mean at all! I appreciate all these suggestions. You really know your SH! Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
Can you make tutorial with this informations.
If you wanna min max your rotation as demon form, you should use bleed on W, rage on Q
start combo with q or w to aply debuff, use AS only after you applied that
priorize SA, WREQ
these do the most DPS in order
Thanks, man! I’ll definitely check it out after I translate the key binds as I’ve used a Naga mouse on this game rather than the default kbs since alpha, beta, and on RU :P
@xewei good to know, even if it will never happen if not on trixion imo
Never getting lv 9 cdr gem nor swiftness on demonic
Crit is just a better substat on her, better ceiling with keen aswell
@@exorigran I hit A+S 3 times in a transformation every single time in a real fight with lvl 9 cd gem and 1700 spec. I was hitting it even with lvl 7 cd, but it was really tight. You just need more spec to do it properly, just use S first, than use A, this way they will have the exact same CD... And you get the party synergy from Howl in human form that lasts for 16s. I've seen many people doing the mistake of attacking with anything else first and that's how you lose a lot of dps.
@@Snow-Order66 nice, whats your substat?
Raid captain might be better than hit master since hit master doesn’t affect awakening damage. This is assuming u run spec swift so demon =20% + like 5-8% from neck + 8% yearning + rage rune proc
Raid captain is crucial for the hallucination build and spec swift neck, for sure. Hit Master is an excellent engraving for both builds, though. I’m not too concerned about awakening damage, as I am using Gate for the utility, aka free insta demon form during downtime in a fight, like when you have to hide behind pillars on Valtan. I can just pop Gate under him and let it give me 100 meter while I’m doing the mechanic.
Hello great video, just a quick question. Should the leg wealth rune be on demon vision or demonic howl?
Thanks! You can probably run it on either, but I have mine on howl currently.
my 1385 SH is currently running Impulse 3 adre 3 HitMaster 3, what would be a good progression path going forward? TIA
Eventually, I would add grudge for sure. Raid captain and keen blunt will also be extremely useful for DI SH (make sure you’re hitting the movement speed/crit requirements for those, which shouldn’t be a problem). Cursed doll is another good option, because your health gain from transformation is not impacted by the negative on that engraving.
Great vid i nearly quit this game cause my char really suck and this make me wanna try again
Sometimes you just have to rebuild your character from scratch, yeah. I had to do that with my Wardancer. After going FI and full swiftness, I really enjoy playing her now!
Que bonus set recomiendas?
There are two viable builds for SH, depending on the playstyle: Hallucintaion (and a spec/swift neck) and Salvation (and a spec/crit neck). I personally went with Salvation for a little more consistency and I believe it also has higher damage potential (as long as you don't dip below 30% HP). Hallucination is a really nice amount of crit though, which is good for shadowhunter, and I know it is slated to receive some changes in the next balance patch, so we'll see if that might pull ahead for SH. For now, I am going Salvation.
Hi, i have a question, if i have only a rare wealth rune it's still viable to make the class? im thinking of creating one with the punika pass. TY
It definitely is! Plus, the wealth runes aren’t too difficult to farm (you’ll have them eventually). I really do enjoy this class as an alt, and it’s a great way to get into legion raids without spending as much gold on your build as you will on other classes.
@@beebbopp2049 ok okey ty. Yeah i'm a paladin main but my other alts (wardancer and soulfist) are just too expensive with the engravings. I give it a try tomorrow! ty
@@cristianruiz7139 I have a Wardancer as well. It’s expensive, for sure, but I just got 4 piece Dominion on her and I’m loving it!
dude, it will suck on early game
But if you plan on maining this class, you must get the better wealth ones
it's unplayable without them
@@exorigran Just stop while you're ahead. It is most definitely playable without all wealth runes. Is it META? No but it's definitely still fun and good damage.
I hate it when people going Beatrice, show how to build a char and dont do a dmg test to demonstrate the power 😂😂
I definitely understand wanting to see some numbers behind the build, however, damage tests add more time to already long videos. I feel like it’s much more helpful to show how to put together the build and how to play it. Everyone is fully capable of taking that knowledge to Trixion and testing the damage themselves.
@@beebbopp2049 i understand what u mean but youtube is full with good demon impuls videos ^^
@@LiZzZzZArDDDD That’s great! I hope people keep making great content, and we can grow the Lost Ark community :)