I'm also playing a blue gunlancer, its my fave spec and my build is pmuch the same as you except I don't have the level 1 adrenaline sadly, and level 5 gems, your damage is almost the double mine. Its insane how important the gems are
Yeah, the double 2 piece relics I have in the video help the damage as well. I just upgraded to Adrenaline 2 since making the video. The price of relic accessories have really come down.
@@beebbopp2049 I'll be 6p Nightmare on reset day. I have no proper gold income as i dont play alts so im also worning slowly towards getting legendary books done so I can get adrenaline aswell man
If you want to do a lot more damage and have less downtime/ cleanup your rotation you should take quock prep on leap and max it. Direct hit only buffs the first jump amd doesn't effect sny of the other tripods. For a clean roation yoy want cd gems to to be Bash and thunder = x Shield bash= x-2 Leap= x+2 You do not need a cd gem on sheild charge, its base cd is 16s so even with level 10 bash cd gem itll always be up every other bash, you can take dmg gem on shield shock instead. I also rarely run duf taking shield shock instead not leveling up the tripods on shout shield, charge shield, or NE effectiveness in order to max 131 tripods on shock. The rotation is Shout, Bash, Leap Leap, Thunder, Shield Bash, Shock Shock (auto until next bash if using crit neck, i use swift neck) Bash, Leap Leap, Charge, Shield Bash, Shock Shock With swift on neck you never auto and can maintain nightmare 6 recharge about 75% of the time. In recharge mode with high enough gems you get 100% uptime on bash buff and shout debuff. 1510 blue, 23 wep 21 all armor lvl 9 dmg gems i do 5 million dps in trix for a 5 minute test. Carnifex#0175 on discord
What engravings are you running for this build? Putting swift on the neck will make our crit a bit on the low side. I’ve seen some builds with spec/swift necks and precise dagger 3, but I would mark that as more of a budget build. Everything else seems viable, although I don’t have many rotational issues in the build I’m currently running. I do have a couple presets replacing DUF or NE depending on the content.
@@beebbopp2049 barricade 3, stabilize status 3, grudge 3, cursed doll 3, adrenaline 2, combat readiness 1. You end up with about 18.5% crit rate with the card set
@@beebbopp2049 I would if I had it my los is only at like 14. If anything I would argue Swift is higher potential damage the better your build becomes because the longer you can stay in the recharge mode of nightmare. 35% cooler in reduction is a much bigger DPS boost than 30% flat damage. With crit on your neck you'll have trouble burning manifest enough to maintain that mode
@@Wicked_Carnifex ah, I see. You are trying to maintain Boundless MP. I have not seen any numbers on this, but I personally don’t think it would be better than the flat damage increase.
Hi, nice vid, just wanted to say I changed shield charge for surge cannon for little more dmg. Running 2 red skills dash upper fire and surge cannon... Gigachad!!
Thanks! Yeah, surge cannon can add some nice damage. Usually, I’ll replace Nelasias with it on farm content. Shield charge is some nice utility and does some decent damage on a short cd. It also helps keep adrenaline up for me.
Hey man i like your guide!i have a question tho, im currently 1435 and running grudge/spirit absorption/barricade 3 and level 1 combat readiness. When should i lose spirit absorption will the nightmare set be able to repleace the movement speed and attack damage we lack right now?
Thanks for watching! So, spirit absorption is always a decent QOL engraving for GL, because you are ridiculously slow, especially when shielded. You'll find the slowness becoming more of a hindrance as you get into later Legion Raids, especially clown. As I am going for full damage engravings, bypassing Spirit Absorption, I will generally equip capes of swiftness to get me to where a need to go quicker. I also try to have a class with movement speed buff in my party, like a Deathblade. The nightmare set move-speed bonus is not 100% active, so I think it will be hard to rely on that. I would definitely try building a full damage set, and potentially making a SA lvl2 variation set if you find yourself needing it. With a 7/7 stone, you can build a 4x3x2x1. Right now I run SS, Grudge, Cursed, Barricade 3/ Adren 2/ CR 1, so I would swap Adren 2 with SA 2, if needed. Hope this helps!
@Beebbopp I know this is super late so you might not be reading the comments, but how did you get your party ui like that? In that position and the larger looking bars buffs and text. I play the game blind in one eye and a centered display like this would be a huge help
Check the green bar above your party frames. There are toggles next to it that will switch orientation. You can also unlock and drag to position them on your screen.
Hey man, fellow chadlancer here. Found your channel in my recommendations. Awesome guide. :) What you think of running surge cannon? Would you substitute it for leap attack?
I would take leap attack over surge cannon, however, if you’ve got content on farm or a competent group that doesn’t really need it, you can definitely substitute Nelasias for surge cannon for that extra damage!
@@beebbopp2049 Great stuff man, this is how I run it on vykas now too. Feel for Valtan surge cannon works great and there is not much value in nella. Btw love your color, can you provide the hex codes? Thanks again!
have you tried running hitmaster instead of cursed doll? Its multiplicative damage so it should scale better and with ancient relics coming soon you could get a 5x3, 1 setup.
@@souffb981 Its cheaper but blue GL is already extremely cheap to build. Don't skimp out like that. Shield bash actually does a decent amount of damage with it's low cooldown.
I absolutely recommend Sprit Absorption 3. Adding it made a world of difference to me, skills are now fast enough to fire so don't get interrupted, it adds that little bit of extra movespeed to get you out of AoE
I know this video is like 2 months old but I have a question Is the nightmare set really better than any combination of legendary and relic sets? Since nightmare doesn’t have any crit rate buffs wouldn’t that hurt the overall damage or the DPS like is there a test on that so I can see what the numbers would be with 6p nightmare vs. 2p Argos 2p beast 2p nightmare
You definitely want to equip full relic (the six piece Nightmare is a massive 15% extra dmg). Nightmare will have the highest damage potential for CR GL. For most classes, including blue GL, a multiplicative flat damage increase will generally win out. I do agree that crit can be somewhat of an issue for us, even with the crit secondary on the neck, however, I usually counter that by putting myself in a party with a crit synergy class, like GS or Glaiv. Once you get gear set conversion, you can test out different sets or set combinations in Trixion.
@@beebbopp2049 thanks for replying imma test it out when I have the full 6p Nightmare 👌🏼 love ur Blue Gunlancer Guide BTW one of the best I’ve seen searching for it 👍🏼
@@elemental2374 Much appreciated! I’ve really enjoyed playing the class since RU, despite the slowness + the awful ping I experienced there (one of the reasons I switched to Blue lancer). I’d be interested to see your testing results when you get the chance to do it!
I very much appreciate it, man! Thank you! Nightmare is one of the best, and most efficient, pure dps sets for mana users, especially Blue GLs. I also find myself never going into the unlimited mana mode (only in niche cases where I am spamming abilities and having to use Nelasias to shield the party, but I've only had that happen on afk mode deska really :P). So, it's pretty much 100% uptime on the Manaburn buff, which a lot of damage. That being said, I do miss seeing the almost constant yellow numbers after getting rid of the Argos 2 piece, but I can usually fix that by organizing party synergies, like putting a GS in my party for raid.
@@beebbopp2049first of all you are welcome 2nd thank you very much for this informative Guide and your quick replay and taking your subs as serious and answer them thats for me are something rare big-mid streamers on youtube vids they lack this so i appreciate this info once more thank you for explaining to me really it helps me alot to understand cause am main pally 1470 and i never ever played gunlancer and my GL now is 1380 so once again thank you man :))
Hummm sorry but i dont agree in many things on your build. Your skill rotation is wrong, you are forgeting tripod buffs times and they dont stack. Also stabilized status for bosses like Vykas its just a bad one.....but hey keep working cheers 👍🏻
Why is stabilized status bad for Vykas? SS is a staple of the CR GL build. If you are dropping below 80% HP, then you are definitely doing something wrong.
Stabilized status is great for gunlancer. Unless if you’re a really bad blue gunlancer then you’ll have trouble keeping Stabilized Status as your engraving. Even if I’m running Surge Cannon instead of Nellasia I rarely use a pot to get back to 80% hp.
@@Mrjvc163 Soo your awanser for "SS its not a good engraving for GL", is i am a "bad GL" ...........reeeeeeally.......please tell me more, i want hear how much good you are....😒
@@FelipeMAPT What's SS? I think you meant SA. If you can't keep your hp at 80% using a gunlancer most times then sorry to say, you're not very good at it. It doesn't take a lot of skill to manage your hp and your identity gauge. Most I use for a Vykas run is 2 pots. That's if I do use any.
@@jingli9553 You check wrong then, unfortunately the Blue build are not used anymore, who still play with pure blue build are working to roll to red lancer now, what you see in the numbers is Lone Knight lv 3 using Combat Readiness lv 1 but spec are dying slowly in the KR server
It takes more than just damage to make a Chad. Also, check the date on this video. Deskaluda was the highest level Guardian raid out at the time in the West.
@@user-hs3lr9gl7y Bigger numbers, yes, but blue lancers have more uptime and decent damage, also no need to front attack for the their hardest hitting abilities. In the end, play what you like. All things considered, I don’t think there is as big of a differential as you suggest.
![Lost Ark] Blue Build Gunlancer Valtan Play](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DbJNMufC2fg/mqdefault.jpg)
Thank you for this guide! I just got to tier 3, and this was super helpful for getting started.
Grats on T3! Gunlancer is a great class to prog through all the content ahead!
Thank you. I needed this info.
You will definitely become the top 1 who makes cracks
I'm also playing a blue gunlancer, its my fave spec and my build is pmuch the same as you except I don't have the level 1 adrenaline sadly, and level 5 gems, your damage is almost the double mine. Its insane how important the gems are
Yeah, the double 2 piece relics I have in the video help the damage as well. I just upgraded to Adrenaline 2 since making the video. The price of relic accessories have really come down.
@@beebbopp2049 I'll be 6p Nightmare on reset day. I have no proper gold income as i dont play alts so im also worning slowly towards getting legendary books done so I can get adrenaline aswell man
If you want to do a lot more damage and have less downtime/ cleanup your rotation you should take quock prep on leap and max it.
Direct hit only buffs the first jump amd doesn't effect sny of the other tripods. For a clean roation yoy want cd gems to to be
Bash and thunder = x
Shield bash= x-2
Leap= x+2
You do not need a cd gem on sheild charge, its base cd is 16s so even with level 10 bash cd gem itll always be up every other bash, you can take dmg gem on shield shock instead. I also rarely run duf taking shield shock instead not leveling up the tripods on shout shield, charge shield, or NE effectiveness in order to max 131 tripods on shock.
The rotation is
Shout, Bash, Leap Leap, Thunder, Shield Bash, Shock Shock (auto until next bash if using crit neck, i use swift neck)
Bash, Leap Leap, Charge, Shield Bash, Shock Shock
With swift on neck you never auto and can maintain nightmare 6 recharge about 75% of the time. In recharge mode with high enough gems you get 100% uptime on bash buff and shout debuff.
1510 blue, 23 wep 21 all armor lvl 9 dmg gems i do 5 million dps in trix for a 5 minute test.
Carnifex#0175 on discord
What engravings are you running for this build? Putting swift on the neck will make our crit a bit on the low side. I’ve seen some builds with spec/swift necks and precise dagger 3, but I would mark that as more of a budget build. Everything else seems viable, although I don’t have many rotational issues in the build
I’m currently running. I do have a couple presets replacing DUF or NE depending on the content.
@@beebbopp2049 barricade 3, stabilize status 3, grudge 3, cursed doll 3, adrenaline 2, combat readiness 1. You end up with about 18.5% crit rate with the card set
@@Wicked_Carnifex Are you going to opt for LWC over 18 LOS? Currently, I’m running LOS for the flat % damage increase.
@@beebbopp2049 I would if I had it my los is only at like 14. If anything I would argue Swift is higher potential damage the better your build becomes because the longer you can stay in the recharge mode of nightmare. 35% cooler in reduction is a much bigger DPS boost than 30% flat damage. With crit on your neck you'll have trouble burning manifest enough to maintain that mode
@@Wicked_Carnifex ah, I see. You are trying to maintain Boundless MP. I have not seen any numbers on this, but I personally don’t think it would be better than the flat damage increase.
Hi, nice vid, just wanted to say I changed shield charge for surge cannon for little more dmg. Running 2 red skills dash upper fire and surge cannon... Gigachad!!
Thanks! Yeah, surge cannon can add some nice damage. Usually, I’ll replace Nelasias with it on farm content. Shield charge is some nice utility and does some decent damage on a short cd. It also helps keep adrenaline up for me.
nice video and thank you
Thanks for checking it out!
Hey man i like your guide!i have a question tho, im currently 1435 and running grudge/spirit absorption/barricade 3 and level 1 combat readiness. When should i lose spirit absorption will the nightmare set be able to repleace the movement speed and attack damage we lack right now?
Thanks for watching! So, spirit absorption is always a decent QOL engraving for GL, because you are ridiculously slow, especially when shielded. You'll find the slowness becoming more of a hindrance as you get into later Legion Raids, especially clown. As I am going for full damage engravings, bypassing Spirit Absorption, I will generally equip capes of swiftness to get me to where a need to go quicker. I also try to have a class with movement speed buff in my party, like a Deathblade. The nightmare set move-speed bonus is not 100% active, so I think it will be hard to rely on that. I would definitely try building a full damage set, and potentially making a SA lvl2 variation set if you find yourself needing it. With a 7/7 stone, you can build a 4x3x2x1. Right now I run SS, Grudge, Cursed, Barricade 3/ Adren 2/ CR 1, so I would swap Adren 2 with SA 2, if needed. Hope this helps!
Definitely learrned some things!
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@Beebbopp I know this is super late so you might not be reading the comments, but how did you get your party ui like that? In that position and the larger looking bars buffs and text. I play the game blind in one eye and a centered display like this would be a huge help
Check the green bar above your party frames. There are toggles next to it that will switch orientation. You can also unlock and drag to position them on your screen.
@@beebbopp2049 Ahh so I have to be in a party to find the option, no wonder I couldnt find it in settings anywhere, ty so much!
Hey man, fellow chadlancer here. Found your channel in my recommendations. Awesome guide. :)
What you think of running surge cannon? Would you substitute it for leap attack?
I would take leap attack over surge cannon, however, if you’ve got content on farm or a competent group that doesn’t really need it, you can definitely substitute Nelasias for surge cannon for that extra damage!
@@beebbopp2049 Great stuff man, this is how I run it on vykas now too. Feel for Valtan surge cannon works great and there is not much value in nella. Btw love your color, can you provide the hex codes? Thanks again!
@@letsdoitmariistyle yeah man, I’ll grab them later tonight when I’m on!
@@letsdoitmariistyle #FF9FDB is the pink #83F2FF blue, FFE78B yellow for the star.
have you tried running hitmaster instead of cursed doll? Its multiplicative damage so it should scale better and with ancient relics coming soon you could get a 5x3, 1 setup.
It’s not ideal because some of ur skills are still front attack. Sheild bash damage is not negligible.
@@msghia5252 yeah but it's 2 skills out of your 6 damage skills. Your hardest hitting ability has no modifiers. Could be a cheaper alternative.
@@souffb981 Its cheaper but blue GL is already extremely cheap to build. Don't skimp out like that. Shield bash actually does a decent amount of damage with it's low cooldown.
I absolutely recommend Sprit Absorption 3. Adding it made a world of difference to me, skills are now fast enough to fire so don't get interrupted, it adds that little bit of extra movespeed to get you out of AoE
SA is very nice QOL, for sure. I have a couple pieces of jewelry I can swap for SA2 instead of adren 2, which I’m running now.
I know this video is like 2 months old but I have a question
Is the nightmare set really better than any combination of legendary and relic sets? Since nightmare doesn’t have any crit rate buffs wouldn’t that hurt the overall damage or the DPS like is there a test on that so I can see what the numbers would be with 6p nightmare vs. 2p Argos 2p beast 2p nightmare
You definitely want to equip full relic (the six piece Nightmare is a massive 15% extra dmg). Nightmare will have the highest damage potential for CR GL. For most classes, including blue GL, a multiplicative flat damage increase will generally win out. I do agree that crit can be somewhat of an issue for us, even with the crit secondary on the neck, however, I usually counter that by putting myself in a party with a crit synergy class, like GS or Glaiv. Once you get gear set conversion, you can test out different sets or set combinations in Trixion.
@@beebbopp2049 thanks for replying imma test it out when I have the full 6p Nightmare 👌🏼 love ur Blue Gunlancer Guide BTW one of the best I’ve seen searching for it 👍🏼
@@elemental2374 Much appreciated! I’ve really enjoyed playing the class since RU, despite the slowness + the awful ping I experienced there (one of the reasons I switched to Blue lancer). I’d be interested to see your testing results when you get the chance to do it!
If you guys want, ATK just did a theorycrafting video on blue gunlancer - HIGHLY recommend checking it out: ruclips.net/video/cXxt4KoUQY0/видео.html
i started to watch u like 2 weeks ago amzing guides thank you very much like and sub bruh :) quick question why ur going for full nightmare set ?
I very much appreciate it, man! Thank you! Nightmare is one of the best, and most efficient, pure dps sets for mana users, especially Blue GLs. I also find myself never going into the unlimited mana mode (only in niche cases where I am spamming abilities and having to use Nelasias to shield the party, but I've only had that happen on afk mode deska really :P). So, it's pretty much 100% uptime on the Manaburn buff, which a lot of damage. That being said, I do miss seeing the almost constant yellow numbers after getting rid of the Argos 2 piece, but I can usually fix that by organizing party synergies, like putting a GS in my party for raid.
@@beebbopp2049first of all you are welcome 2nd thank you very much for this informative Guide and your quick replay and taking your subs as serious and answer them thats for me are something rare big-mid streamers on youtube vids they lack this so i appreciate this info once more thank you for explaining to me really it helps me alot to understand cause am main pally 1470 and i never ever played gunlancer and my GL now is 1380 so once again thank you man :))
I could only see 9/11 of your gems when you showed them, what were the last two after the Shield Charge DMG gem
The best guidei had ever seen ^_^
You’re too kind! Thank you! As long as people find it helpful and we can grow the LOA community, I am happy :)
@@beebbopp2049 ❤
If they made it so you don't have to turn off your shield to get meter back from the shout this class would be perfect
I remember thinking the same thing when I started playing the class. I got used to it, eventually.
@@beebbopp2049 Yeah it's easy to get used to but would be awesome QoL so we can keep on smashing the boss hehe :D
@@TheyBeCrazy69 I would probably fall asleep playing the class at that point :P
what is best relic gear for gunlamcer?
Nightmare set for blue GL.
@@beebbopp2049 ok ty
@@beebbopp2049 same for red gl?
@@lol0ajo For red, I would probably go entropy, because your burst is all head attack.
@@beebbopp2049 ok
Reliq set amor ando weapon?
Im running 2 nightmare and 2 salvation, 2 Argos, with a 21 nightmare weapon. Eventually, I will transition to Nightmare.
disrespect trojan
Blue Lancers are not Chadlancers.
Hummm sorry but i dont agree in many things on your build. Your skill rotation is wrong, you are forgeting tripod buffs times and they dont stack. Also stabilized status for bosses like Vykas its just a bad one.....but hey keep working cheers 👍🏻
Why is stabilized status bad for Vykas? SS is a staple of the CR GL build. If you are dropping below 80% HP, then you are definitely doing something wrong.
Stabilized status is great for gunlancer. Unless if you’re a really bad blue gunlancer then you’ll have trouble keeping Stabilized Status as your engraving.
Even if I’m running Surge Cannon instead of Nellasia I rarely use a pot to get back to 80% hp.
Agreed. On blue GL, your health bar is your identity gauge :P
@@Mrjvc163 Soo your awanser for "SS its not a good engraving for GL", is i am a "bad GL" ...........reeeeeeally.......please tell me more, i want hear how much good you are....😒
@@FelipeMAPT What's SS? I think you meant SA. If you can't keep your hp at 80% using a gunlancer most times then sorry to say, you're not very good at it. It doesn't take a lot of skill to manage your hp and your identity gauge. Most I use for a Vykas run is 2 pots. That's if I do use any.
GS 1500 + relic gear + deskaluda ( 1415 -_- ) + 3 mate GS 1415 noob = 54% DPS ... wahou, amazing "putaclick"
with red build = 80% dps ...
0 KR player play Blue ...
This is objectively false. Save these brain dead comments for the forums where they belong.
@@beebbopp2049 Agreed, checked on lowa, it's about half and half for blue and red players
soy red fanboy
salty for no reason bro
@@jingli9553 You check wrong then, unfortunately the Blue build are not used anymore, who still play with pure blue build are working to roll to red lancer now, what you see in the numbers is Lone Knight lv 3 using Combat Readiness lv 1 but spec are dying slowly in the KR server
blue lancers are not chadlancers its just a SG 1500 in 1415 guardian raid if u play red lancers u have more damage than this.
It takes more than just damage to make a Chad. Also, check the date on this video. Deskaluda was the highest level Guardian raid out at the time in the West.
that's why comment u "if u play red lancers u have more damage than this"
@@user-hs3lr9gl7y Bigger numbers, yes, but blue lancers have more uptime and decent damage, also no need to front attack for the their hardest hitting abilities. In the end, play what you like. All things considered, I don’t think there is as big of a differential as you suggest.
I have 5m dps on blue, blue and red do pretty comparable damage