2020 Katana Might Just Be THE BEST Sport Touring Bike Out There
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Check out this 2020 Suzuki Katana and see what kind of gains are made after we install a Brock's Exhaust and give it the 'ole Moore Mafia ECU Flash.
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Thanks Chris! I really appreciate all the work you and your crew did on my Katana, it sounds amazing and I'll be riding it in a couple hours when I get back home. Thanks again for all the hospitality!
It definitely sounds good
Where in Kansas are you from? SE, NE or western Kansas?
@@jeffreyhinman1397 I'm in the Kansas City area.
@@cycletron I’m down in southeast Kansas. Been up there quite a bit to street races and have a blast when I do. Ride up 2 hours and race on the bike. It’s a long straight highway there lmao
@@jeffreyhinman1397 Hwy 69!
Love mine. Full Yoshimura race system. Set up, dyno’d, makes 160bhp. UK
where i live out in the country a silent bike is your best bet for evading police.(noise is a police magnet) you can hear the loud bikes for miles in any direction & fairly easy to track what road your on.whether they can catch you is a different story.why give away your position to the enemy thru unneeded noise.who will most likely revoke your liscence if he does catch you.
Me enemy is the inattentive cager, to which I'd prefer to let them know I'm coming.
I had one of these bikes. They are pretty awesome.
PLEASE turn one of these into a drag bike!
Was there no baseline run? Would’ve been cool to see how restricted it was due to the air box.
A Katana was my first bike many years ago. Loved that thing, but one day at a biker bbq someone told me it was a girls bike lol. I was heart broken. Sold it a year later for a gsxr. I like these new Katana's and didn't even know they still made that model.
They stopped making the Katana in the early 2000's. The second generation katana was actually quite a different bike than the initial Katana Gsx1100. The new katana was released in 2020 in the US, probably earlier in EU/UK. Seems like they are hit and miss with them TBH. They have a 2020, but I've never seen a 2021, 2022, or 2023 in the states. The current 2024 edition is actually the 2023 European spec and from what I gather is limited production. Brand new it retails around $14k. I remember the type Katana you had man. I'll be honest with you and in my opinion it was a soft GSXR, detuned and rounded edges. That was a pretty crappy thing for that dude to say, must be insecure 😅😅
I had a 1982 model when they first came out and compared to the rest of the lineup this one looked like a friggin' space ship!
I wasn't expecting so much power from that bike. That is insane. Great to see the customers on your channel.
its a short trip spirited back road rider, Sport touring....not so much, but looks nostalgic for sure with some modern touches
Sound quality on the bikes is good but your voice and overall sound while talking sounds a little tin can like. Hard to describe but could tell right away when the video started. Love watching these, quality is still good just letting you know
Yeah I thought the same thing. It sounds like I might need to take the foam off the mic.
I had a 94 back in the day. Loved it. Had a lot of fun on it. Sold it because I got walked by an R6 lol. I've learned a ton about bikes since then.
This one has about 40hp more than the R6. Definitely not gonna get walked on.
Definitely some audio issues here Chris! We are in a fish bowl! As far as the content; I LOVE the new Katana! Honestly it seems very similar to my Bandit 1250S (other than the exhaust servo) it has many of the same restrictions and fixes. The lighter weight and updated suspension probably give it considerable edge, it's really only slightly down on torque in comparison but then nearly 30HP ahead. As far as touring goes, it just needs a windscreen or you'll be blown around a lot. I'd really like to get my hands on one!
Sounds are too high pitched and sounds like he said fish bowel …I’d go back to the old camera
My friend has a bandit 1250 and I've ridden his bike several times the Handling is leaps and bounds better on the Katana being a GSXR frame and swing arm. And when we raced I was able to pull away pretty good even with a passenger. I like the bandit alot tho great bike smooth good highway gearing comfortable and torqey
I just sold my '88 Katana 1100 a few months ago, and love the looks of the new ones. My preference is the black with red, and if I was a young guy I might have one, but the small fuel capacity would no doubt bug me after a while. Being 70 I find that exhaust a bit too loud, but like the system over the looks of the stock one.
I Still have my 1989 Black with Kraus Bags and Yoshi exh.
Been a minute since I rode it I think it was 2014.
@@Busafied They were amazing bikes. Mine also had the Suzuki/Krauser hard luggage which was a pretty rare option. Only sold it because the wife and I are retiring to our condo in the Philippines a bit more than a month from now.
@@Busafied I have a blue and white 1986 gsxr 1100
@@Shane-zx4ps I'd like to see that one
I have one someone painted on the lift in storage where it has been since 2009
Subframe auxiliary tank could be easily fabricated...put the pump in there, with a billet plug for the fuel gauge sender?
I own the katana that Brock’s did a video on similar hp numbers and I can say it’s an amazing bike
Very true Charles .
Katana has come a long way. That bike looks clean and sounds even better with the Brocks on there. 👍🏿
My very first motorcycle was a 1993 katana 600 red for $3,000. It was a great beginner bike for me! Moved on to an 06 cbr600rr and now 07 gsxr750. Love the videos thank you for the effort and insight!!
There's a couple problems with the title.
No naked bikes are great sport bikes due to wind bashing you around past 130kph. (A sport rider is often well over this)
The second problem re touring on this bike is the 12L fuel tank...
The gsxs1000 has a 17L tank as most 1000s do.
I found 200kms was really as good as I got on the open road.
Great bike to ride with a very usable motor etc.
I always found the throttle to be very smooth at all rpm coming on and off the throttle.
I only mentioned that due to what was in this video.
Dude I have the same one!!!! Finally the mafia got one!
I just bought a new busa, but have a 2020 katana and am having a hard time putting up for sale. It's such a great bike
FYI Sound quality is way off. Great video nevertheless.
I've been debating grabbing one of these for so long now, I love the look of it
Me too, I just get frustrated when the dealers are asking retail price and the damn bike is 3 years old leftover by this point.
@@BreakStuffClub yuuuppppp I currently have a cbr650r but this just feels a little more comfortable and unless I go for a straight up touring machine, I need something like my bike or naked like this because I ride so much
I've owned a Katana for about 3600 hundred miles. The fuel capacity thing really isn't annoying and the bike is awesome
The Guys Reaction @ 4:10:
Oh Shit....I forgot to install that Gasket 👀
Fun fact : Chris Use to have a yellow Katana as a drag bike. And yes it was fast. Keep up the great work very proud of you.
I had a feeling that you would have dealt with the Katana, that's great news. I'm going to pick up a 24' and basically fix it just like this. Full exhaust, air box/Filter and ECU. Damn son, that Katana sounds mad as hell!!! Looking forward to this! I sold my last liter bike about 5 years ago and gave up riding the big nakeds. The Katana has been on my Radar as well as the GSXS 1K for a couple years, and I'm ready to get ready for spring. I might just ride up there, or trailer the bike maybe. I'm down in GA, so not far.
I love Brock exhausts!!
Sport TOURING!!! Without any luggage bags
Perfect quality all the way around
It's sounding wicked bro. I love it!! Great job Chris.
Sound quality is great nice and clear
Bike sounds good and I like the new look of the bike.
Suzuki really shot themselves in the foot with that 12L fuel tank.
Yup, they can't sell these where I live due to that issue. One is marked for 8k, way under msrp, and has been in the showroom floor for 8 months+
@@Goopie48 As before, put an auxiliary tank on your subframe, easy for any decent fabricator? Blend it in with bodywork!
the baseline pull should have been done with the stock exhaust in my opinion for those people who would get an aftermarket exhaust to improve the bike. Like this, it is for the people who get the exhaust for the sound no matter what the improvement to stock would be, mainly just to have the bike running properly with the new blink. I never see a dyno of the stock exhaust as baseline pull, mostly explained with time constrains. Is it possible that the gains would not be that dramatic?
Baseline pulls with factory are approx 135rwhp, my 2020 Katana with full Yoshi system and tune 155rwhp
Can't stop my new katana from wheel standing and shredding the rear tyre when cold not sure it needs more balls than stock, tail tidy got rid of a few kgs and looks better, cheers.
I had a 2008 GSX750F - What fun. This one is awesome!
Hey bro everything is up 100% top quality all round and a very good Investment .just keep them great works coming . always love your vedios even when I couldn't hear what you was saying most of the time.but now bro up up up up ❤️💯👌✊💪⛽
The katana looks pretty cool but it's a model that I don't really understand since Suzuki also has the gsxf line up. Seems way to similar.
Vortex aluminium sprocket, why? The weight savings is not worth the short life span to me.they dont last as long as a rear tire.
Comment on video/audio quality:
There is some room reflection in the audio, it's not a huge deal but maybe a lav mic might isolate your voice a bit better and get less of that echo off the walls, just had a little google and rode make a "RODE wireless go 2", so you could wear a lav mic that is connected to the gopro wirelessly and doing it like that would be easier than having to sync audio from a separate device for every video, should come out of the camera just the same, video with audio.
Absolutely agree mate. I bought the Rode Wireless Go 2 just recently because audio is so important. The camera's exposure, contrast and sharpness was good but the built in mic not good.
Before you mentioned the new camera/mic I noticed at the beginning that it kinda sounds like your talking through a coffee can, or possibly a mono sound.I'm listening on a very high end home theater/quadraphonic system so these things are very noticeable.
Love the ECU flash, I might be needing that🔥😎🇺🇸
Yeah Audio is not as good as Normal. It does sound like muffled at times but overall great video full of solid results and info 👍
Great work man, the Mafia does it again 👏🏻
Hi Chris, that Katana looks pretty good. I had one of the first 1100cc Katan's when they first came out. Dragged it stock standard and did a 9:94.
I smashed my legs up in a big off and now ride a Boulevard as my legs don't bend enough to get on sports bikes. But do you have a flash card I can buy for the Boulevard as the air filter and exhaust has been changed. It's doing the full on full off stuff. I saw you were doing a Boulevard awhile ago and solved that problem.
Please can you send me how to get and pay for the flash card or whatever it's called. Thank you Chris.
There is no way a stock 1100 Katana from the early 1980’s would ever do a sub 10 second pass standard, not even with Chris Moore riding it. They are a cool old school bike though, and worth a lot now.
Should have dyno it in stock form. Should of showed the air box when finished. Camera was good and sound.
Nekkid bike content, yes sir!! Love the Katana. Always wondered if I'm too tall for it or not. Never seen one on the road.
I'm 6'2 and it's okey. Great bike. Amazing in fast corners .
6'3" here and I second this man's statement.
Definitely Like the Newer Kat, I still have my 89 Black Katana 1100.
I Just picked up a new Gen3 Busa, 2022 Silver/Red a few weeks ago, did the first service yesterday.
Owning a few Busas including my Gen 1 Turbo busa, now I see someone that can do some work on mine soon.
Keep up the Good Content, SC isn't too far from Dallas Texas. ;)
Boost! It's whats up...
I love the way the new Katanas look. But Mr. Moore, what makes this bike a sports tourer?
Tall handlebars, low pegs, and a real seat.
@@johnarcher9480 yeah but no wind protection and small tank makes it not great for touring
Roughly the same amount of hp as mt10, interesting. I just picked up a mt10 a couple weeks ago, they are fun but what gas GUZZLING pigs. I'll bet anything this zuk gets 10-15mpg better than mt10. Great content as always Chris 👏
They do. MT about 30-32 mpg, this about 41 mpg or better. Similar power.
Same story with a V4 engine or a inline-4-crossplane. There's something about the uneven firing interval 4-bangers that suck gas. I'm guessing it has something to do with the fact the intake pulse waves pounding back and forth in the airbox on the uneven firing engines are making intake air flow much less efficient for the same horsepower output. But that's a theory based on the medium grade knowledge I have of engines. I know the whole point of uneven firing intervals is to change the traction dynamic at the wheel (MotoGP). The difference between conventional even firing and these crossplane (inline or V, doesn't matter) engines is the torque composite output between combustion and inertia intervals of the crankshaft.
katana has better km per liter but they have about the same range because of the katana's 12 liter tank
@@bruhwhat7863 Yeah, the primary reason I've written off the Katana from day 1.
I've owned a Katana for 3600 miles and can get 45-50 all day long if I'm riding conservative
Seriously, mt10 probably gets worse mpg than ducati streetfighter v4 that puts down 200whp off the showroomfloor! In fact, I would put money on it.
Kawasaki rolled in with their 1000SX sport tourer and said "Hold my beer!"
Love it, i just purchased the same
Bike. I want to set an appt up with you to bring my bike down from jersey todo the same. Will be reaching out soon. Keep up the great work
Oh man Chris… Awesome. I've been waiting for this. Sweet. OK back to the video for me.
That's a sharp bike but that Suzy badge is HUGE. Another great Mafia vid.
sport touring implies going some distance =\ with a 12L tank you wouldn't see 120miles. its a cool looking bike i bet is fun to ride though
Looks like my GSXS1000 .. witch is a blast on the streets
The new camera doesn't seem like a good mic. I mostly listen to your videos while I do things, I figured you were using your phone for this video until you said something.
I didn't know that Suzuki still made a Can-a-tuna...
Never seen anyone strain so hard lifting 35 lbs 😆
Digging the retro street fighter style Blast from the Past 🤟☝️👆🤘🙌⚡🏍️👀🇺🇸🤝💥💯🤗😎💪love from Miami Beach 🏖️ FL USA Sky Champion on Powamoto 🤟
I must say those can a tuna’s have come along way .🤙🏼🤙🏼
The only thing I have done to my 2020 so far is remove the elf ears turn signals and get some flat ones that blend in so much more. I just wish I could get a more comfortable seat for it.
Is there anything worth doing to the ECU without getting a new exhaust? Ive spoken to shops before but they have not made me confident that they know what they are talking about. Seeing you show literally what is being done, particularly to this bike gives me a lot of confidence I can trust your answer. I cannot justify a brand new exhaust or trip from AZ right now but would love less harsh engine braking etc.
Hey can you do the 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT
I love the new Katana and waiting to see the latest model with all the updates the GSXS 1000 got. Love Brock’s exhaust but I think that one is way too loud. Needs a longer can to take it down a bit and it may even pick up more power
Man great video!! That bike sounds very nice with the Brock’s exhaust!!
It looks good. I'm not much of a Suzuki fan so this is unbiased.
All that tech and no cruise! Come on Suzuki. It would be a major sport touring contendor, give it cruise.
Amazing Video Quality! Good Job
The sound is not right on the go pro sounds if you stand in the distance
For the katana great job done
Hey Mr Moore, my bike is a FJR1300 generation 2. It is an amazing sport touring bike. Have you ever worked on one?
I have an early Gen 3. Yes, it is a great sports-tourer. Alas, it just doesn't have the same potential for speed and power. The mildly tuned engine (relativity low compression pistons and mild cams) is designed to run on 87 octane fuel. It will also run quite happily on the 85 octane gas you find quite often when you are off the beaten path Out West (like Colorado and Wyoming).
The engine is not peaky at all. It makes over 80 lb-ft of torque from 3500 rpm to 8000 rpm. If someone made them, you could fit higher compression pistons, hotter cams, and a better flowing exhaust; but the big limitation to getting more power out of the engine is, I think, the airbox. The airbox shares the under-seat space with the ABS. There is just not a lot of room under there.
Not interested in making noise as i use this bike on daily basis/ have neighbours/ am mature rider. However removing certain factory limitations whilst keeping the stock cat in the pipe might be good
I've liked the look since they released it.
I quickly went looking for specifications and my momentum hit a brick wall when I read "3.2 gallons" under fuel capacity. I hated the 3.7 gallon on Yamaha's MT line, and this is WORSE.
"THE BEST Sport Touring Bike" Not unless you pull a fuel cart behind you.
I guess Suzuki felt the sting with angry customers and put a 5-gallon tank on the updated GSX-S1000.
Yeah the moment I saw how small the fuel tank was much like the FTR1200 I was suddenly like "Nope" lol. All the good riding for me requires a little bit of a trip and range anxiety sucks.
Audio/video is good chris
When there is noise the mic picks up your voice really good but when its quiet and just you talking, it kind of sounds like your in a bathroom.
Holy crap that looks like the first gen kat
Dang i would have like to have known how much it did before you installed the exhaust, filter and opened up the air box :(
Hopefully there's something you can do with the tail light, just doesn't look right. Your new GoPro is working fine very clear picture 👍
I would love to mail my ecu to you to do the same work. I own a 2020 katana as well. Super fun bike. Checking in from Az
I am really curious what Aprilia does with their ECU's. I have a Aprilia race flash on my RSV4, but I question how much de-tune they have baked into that?
Time to get an RSV4 on the dyno! WAY overdue....come on!
Good luck with that!
@@IndyMotoRider What, he dont like the Apes?
@@ApeRSV4 the ECUs can only be cracked with a few options. Moore uses a Woolich program to tune. That's not compatible with Aprilias. Need UpMap or OpenFlash Tablet to do RSV4 / Tuonos. That's one reason I sold my Tuono Factory in July, and put a deposit down on a 2023 Busa. There is just not enough Aprilia support in the U.S. Midwest. Had to drive 2 hours to another state to buy the 2020 I had.
@@IndyMotoRider Great reply! Thanks
This is the first I've seen of the new gen Katanas. It's definitely a massive improvement over the old ones...unlike the audio quality of your new camera. Video quality looks fine except maybe when you showed they dyno tv, it seemed to struggle more with the lcd tv. But maybe I only noticed it more because you mentioned the new camera so I was looking for stuff like that, but audio was definitely not as good.
I'm gonna try some different settings.
@@TeamMooreMafia There seems to be a video quality downgrade as well, something in the settings as this video looked grainy in comparison to your previous GoPro setup.
@@TeamMooreMafia Yeah. It's definitely got to be an issue in the settings because I doubt GoPro would downgrade the quality of the new models.
@earlgunman I don't think it was just you. I noticed right away that it was struggling with the Dyno TV as well. Definitely was struggling with that view.
You should be using 30 or 60 FPS for RUclips
Video quality improved,, audio looks like same but loud
You may loose 30% of throttle but not hp with the stp I would suggest. Jfyi my stock, flashed gsxs1000 makes 152.5 at the wheel.
I love the sound💪🏽
Your sound was better prior videos. Sounds like your in a hall when speaking. I’m on nice stereo setup.
Mate your new mic set up is like your talking down a pringles tube and the camera I preferred the old one.
What did you use before I need that set up lol.
Love to buy one but the tank range is a joke sports tourer not
I really want this bike!! I love it!!
Zh2 is hands down
The tank is much too small for touring man. at least in my opinion.
audio is a little rough but the video looks great. not sure what you use to edit your videos but some echo reduction would help
Love the video quality
Yo Chris can you do a video on Honda CB500 series of bikes and your tunes?
Después que les cambian las partes originales a las motos.... La vida de ellas se reduce hasta la mitad.... Un ingeniero la creo como la vemos en stock y si lo hizo así fue por algo....
The sound was the fist thing I noticed when I started the video. The audio sounds worse than in your recent videos.
Love it but you wont be doing any touring on a 12 litre tank
Knocking on 100k, remember when you was 6k
Is it possible to remap the ECU of Duke 890 R for pops and bangs?
I need to get back out to Cacalac. Just so damn far...I want the Dyno tune!!
Something wrong with audio video quality is good
How can it be a sport touring bike when it has a 12 litre tank?
Cool bike, but that was one of the things that held me off seriously looking at one. For open road riding, I think you should have at least a 250km range.
I see Aprilia have made the same mistake with the new Tuono.
Exactly lol