Although the installation isn’t the simplest; it doesn’t look hard. As for performance, although HP increase may not be noticeable… The sound and throttle response, make it enough that I will look into it when my BRZ comes in. One thing I may do is add some additional reflective insulation.
We need some dyno numbers before I pay 450 bucks. I saw another video on YT were a guy took off the paper filter on the stock air box and used stock filter and gained 10HP at 4500RPM’s
@@humannt3374 The charcoal filter. I watched a dyno video(which I'll link at the end here) and the GR86 pulled an extra 15 HP without the charcoal filter. Here are the dyno results: ruclips.net/video/yAQYVQXDbOo/видео.html
The equivalent to this is simply a drop-in High Flow filter. There really isn't any "power gain", it's just throttle response. $60 vs $450 for the same result and w/o getting heat soaked from a metal box (regardless of the wrap around it). Understand, that there is a reason behind the madness of manufacturing stock air boxes out of composite material. It doesn't absorb radiated heat like a "metal" casing would. On a NA engine, closest temperature to ambient is your friend.
Im not against intakes in general, but this doesnt mame the cut. K&N has been doing this longer than anyone. You would think they would get with the times. It has been proven time and time again that metal intake tubes conduct heat into the air stream. Oiled filters are also a bad idea on cars with a MAF. I have had them make my car run like shit more than once needing a MAF cleaning because the oil gets all over the sensor. Plastic\silicone tubes and dry filters are the way to go.
I doubt this would make more power, if anything with the bonnet closed and a hot engine bay I think you would probably be down on power. On a dyno the charcoal filter removal makes the same power. Which is all this is doing.
@@bobsmith-qz2pv Hard to trust it though - what if they just dynode it with the hood open. Also, in japan they dont have any charcoal filter, so the gruppM gets its gains pure (dyno in japan), not just from removing the filter.
You’d get the same results with deleting the charcoal filter and putting a k&n pannel filter in… actually let me not say the same… open filters SUCK in the real world, only reason they make power on the dyno is because the hood is open 🤣
Seems pretty poor quality for the money. If it was $150 it would make more sense. For anyone that are concerned about heat soak, ceramic paint should easily take care of that, but again, for $450 I'd expect it to have a quality coating out of the box and be essentially assembled.
I got a K&N on my Miata and it gives it so much life! I love it!
I like how it looks tbh looks like it fits the first gen
Probably does but the first gen filter is cheaper so why pay kore
I bought it for noise. I don’t expect any power out of it. Right now it’s paired with a gen 2 Spec-L.
Although the installation isn’t the simplest; it doesn’t look hard. As for performance, although HP increase may not be noticeable… The sound and throttle response, make it enough that I will look into it when my BRZ comes in. One thing I may do is add some additional reflective insulation.
We need some dyno numbers before I pay 450 bucks. I saw another video on YT were a guy took off the paper filter on the stock air box and used stock filter and gained 10HP at 4500RPM’s
Wait paper filter ?
What”
@@humannt3374 The charcoal filter. I watched a dyno video(which I'll link at the end here) and the GR86 pulled an extra 15 HP without the charcoal filter. Here are the dyno results: ruclips.net/video/yAQYVQXDbOo/видео.html
The equivalent to this is simply a drop-in High Flow filter. There really isn't any "power gain", it's just throttle response. $60 vs $450 for the same result and w/o getting heat soaked from a metal box (regardless of the wrap around it).
Understand, that there is a reason behind the madness of manufacturing stock air boxes out of composite material. It doesn't absorb radiated heat like a "metal" casing would. On a NA engine, closest temperature to ambient is your friend.
Better invest that money in Greedy snorkel or those made non name 3d printed.
It's not going to heatsoak. It's constantly moving huge volumes of air so it's being cooled naturally.
Im not against intakes in general, but this doesnt mame the cut. K&N has been doing this longer than anyone. You would think they would get with the times. It has been proven time and time again that metal intake tubes conduct heat into the air stream. Oiled filters are also a bad idea on cars with a MAF. I have had them make my car run like shit more than once needing a MAF cleaning because the oil gets all over the sensor. Plastic\silicone tubes and dry filters are the way to go.
No Dyno? How much power extra did it give?
I doubt this would make more power, if anything with the bonnet closed and a hot engine bay I think you would probably be down on power. On a dyno the charcoal filter removal makes the same power. Which is all this is doing.
I wanted one until I realized it won't fit with an oil cooler 😫
Will you guys be doing a driving review of this at all?
We’re there any gains in performance or was this more if a mod because you like it?
K&N stated Gains on the sheet that came with it and we can feel in on the but dyno inthe higher RPM for sure
@@86Speed That’s awesome. So gains in both appearance and feel.
@@86Speed wait so it actually works?
450 dollas !?! That’s outrageous if im being honest
Compared to the gruppM which is $2,000 for the same power gain
@@bobsmith-qz2pv Hard to trust it though - what if they just dynode it with the hood open. Also, in japan they dont have any charcoal filter, so the gruppM gets its gains pure (dyno in japan), not just from removing the filter.
I’ll save my money, thanks
What did you get after saving the money?
So this or armaspeed 🤔
Same setup/exhaust I’m aiming for
Sound is pretty awesome! Are you going to do a driving video?
Yeah, janky seals and no 3rd-party verification of actual dyno gains. "Butt dynos" are worth the paper they are printed on.
I installed the same intank and mines doesn’t sound like that did I install it wrong
I'm wondering what song is that during the install
This thing looks janky with the way it seals
That's what i'm thinking. No doubt it sounds cool, but i highly doubt this gives any power.
Power increase is definitely trivial
Does it hook up to the stock intake boot on the front bumper?
The snorkel? Yea it does.
YES it does
This looks bad in my opinion. Looks rushed.
Did you notice any gains from the butt dyno?
up top - YES!
You’d get the same results with deleting the charcoal filter and putting a k&n pannel filter in… actually let me not say the same… open filters SUCK in the real world, only reason they make power on the dyno is because the hood is open 🤣
Be cautious about this. There is not way to confirm they didn't just dyno it with an open hood (which will give you fake numbers).
Who are you again?
will it fit a 23’
Yup
Not a fan of these. Here in Florida, the heat and humidity just goes against Cold air intake.
Way to expensive for an intake that has same effects as a drop in.
Am I late to the party?
Seems pretty poor quality for the money. If it was $150 it would make more sense. For anyone that are concerned about heat soak, ceramic paint should easily take care of that, but again, for $450 I'd expect it to have a quality coating out of the box and be essentially assembled.
amateur hour happening here
😂😂😂😂
U guys have instagram?
of coarse