Love the fact that a Wsbk world champion, MotoGP test rider and presenter goes to Cannock to get his bike sorted. Genuinely nice lads at PCR and great to see the business going from strength to strength from opening the business years back.
I did this to my L7 GSX-R 1000. Paired the front up with an RCS19, Brembo M4 calipers and SBS RS pads. Braided lines all round and now the bike is complete! I mad sure I got the Yoshimura ABS delete so the TC isn't messed up! 👌
Every review of the GSXR1000r mentioned the breaks as not being up to par with the Euro bikes. After pounding on those other bikes all summer, it is the very last thing Mr. Guintoli has changed!
I had absolutely 0 issue with the standard brake setup. Actually thought they are very good for stock. Obviously now the bike is getting more track orientated, ABS delete is a good mod’ to do
@@SylvainGuintoliMy GSXR1000R ABS system work fantastically for canyon carving in the rocky mountains(very different road conditions every turn). A new brembo master and some steel lines to top off system(and give me something to enjoy in the spring). But for the street, the ABS works well, so it stays. I understand and love your bike. Thats the lovely thing about the GSXR, you can keep honing its edge.
Ebc have been the standard In the states for a lifetime, been out of the game for a while but Lockheed used to make some of the best racing mastercylinders. Thanks for the videos in this series love that you share that knowledge. I know you rode for at least three brands during superbike stint including the championship on the apprilia how would you compare them to the current livery.
Hello Sylvain, I didn’t even imagine that modification would take such in depth dissembling 😱. This is quite a nice video! I have a question: If ABS is known to be safer when hard braking on track and for trail braking as well, why would you choose to remove it? Is it because it will give you a better braking feeling without it or maybe is too restrictive in terms of performance for a Super Pro like you ?
ABS is safer on the road and it’s ok on track too. Without the ABS on track, it gives full control to the rider to brake super hard, which is nice, feels like a race bike
@@SylvainGuintoli These are great insights . I’ve learned more with you in this past month on the SG50 channel than in my entire life of researching and trying to put ideas together.
Ciao Sylvain, i tuoi video sono fatti bene e sono molto utili, ma perchè non fai anche una versione in italiano? Nei primi video c'era anche la traduzione. Grazie
Awesome that you are getting all this done. But I’m surprised you didn’t go with the sensor that attaches to the brake line to gather and study brake data. Also, why did you leave the huge and probably heavy abs pump in the bike. I would have assumed all of the pumping and pump would have been removed.
My guess is its so that they don't need to either flash or switch out the ECU, so leaving the pump in and working likely keeps the ECU from throwing errors, probably a higher tier upgrade to remove it?
Might install brake pressure this winter. Abs pump is still in place as it’s a main part of the electronic’s package. For now I’m keeping the standard ECU as we are adjusting the engine brake mapping. One of the next steps is to fit the Yoshimura race ECU with loom kit, this will allow to remove the ABS pump.
One of the guys mentioned the possibility of running a brake pressure sensor off the H-line. Is there a possibility of adding that to your on board laps to work with the lean angle/throttle input sensors? The brake lever cameras are great but it's still very hard to get an idea of the brake pressures that you are trailing off with.
At the moment I don’t have any sensors on the bike other than GPS. Something to think about. Brake pressure, throttle opening %, gears & rpm would be useful.
Hi Sylvain. Why didn't you also remove the abs pump and just use an emulator for the wiring harness to not get any errors on the dashboard? It would have saved at least another 400gr.
Removing the ABS pump affects the Traction control and wheeling control. To remove it I need to fit an ECU like the Yoshimura race and race kit loom as well. Might do it soon
I removed ABS and running Galfer lines, Brembo RCS, ABS delete plug, stock pads ( which lack feel ) thanks for the video, any plans to run different calipers?
Standard Brembo calipers are very good on the GSXR. Just tried the Hel Performance ones, works well too. I like the standard GSXR pads, for me then work really well on track, they just get used quickly (on track)
Hi Sylvan, what are the maximum longitudinal decelerations (under braking then) that you achieve with your road GSX-R at low speeds? (i.e. 100-150 km/h) Thank you very much.
Hello Sylvain, how did you find the EBC pads? im currently using Brembo Z04's which i find fantastic but have heard good things about the GPFAX and wonder if they are a comparable pad. Thanks
@@SylvainGuintoli Thanks, yes i think i will give them a try as they might be good enough for my pace! but the have a feeling i will go back to the Z04's as i cannot fault them other than cost :)
Hello Sylvain... I have two questions: Do you install some ABS emulator? and What version or kit are you installed of 2D?... can you upload a video about that. Best regards from Mexico 🇲🇽
No need for ABS eliminator if you keep the ABS pump with the plugs (like in this video). I have a 2D GPS and use the 2D license and software. No sensors yet but maybe for next year to be able to have brake pressure, throttle position and so on
@@cristianr3712 Current ABS systems are great for safety but as it stands no pro rider would choose to use it on track as they are not set for ultimate track performance. If ABS was allowed in MotoGP, there would be research et development to make them efficient, to control the front tire load depending on grip conditions. This would probably result in better performance and less crashes. But probably more difficult to overtake so not so good for the show.
@@SylvainGuintoli thanks for the quick reply. I'm in the US but I'll give the a call. I replicated them with zip ties and a cm of fuel line to offset the lines off of the forks.
@@SylvainGuintoli actually I've faced many issues with the brakes. Tried 2 different master pumps. Still same issue. Using hel steel braided lines. Brembo sintered brake pads. I have abs in between but. This is recently. 6 months I had no issues with the same parts. Previously on heating the lever would move out from reach and on cooling down would come back down. Also there is less feedback and less initial bite. I've used about only 30 percent of the brake pads. Any idea what I can do ?
@@kevinpinheiro2485 try cooling down the brakes and calipers with a brake cooling duct. I think your system gets too hot. Also try high performance brake fluid
@@xtom_99 didn't try the duct. Tried dot 5.1 race. But it was a weird situation. It worked 6 months no issues then suddenly this happens. Yesterday it got worse. I'm talking normal riding too it's over heating. But it's surely caused by over heating?
@@kevinpinheiro2485 is your bike hard to push by hand? Maybe the piston in the caliper is stuck which causes the brake to have friction with the disc all the time and overheat. If not then I dont know anymore... Try to service your caliper at a workshop (cleaning and making the pistons move freely)
Hello Sylvain, nice mod and can't wait to see the results on the track, with the ABS delete and the new pads. Also seeing the bike disassembled like this reminded me of a video that was about unrestricting the throttle blades on a stock GSXR 2017 ==> ruclips.net/video/e0T0p7TsV3s/видео.html. With just an ECU flash and a stock bike, he was able to almost match the power you are making with a full exhaust. Is that something that you have already looked into? Or maybe it is not applicable to the 2020 model.
Nice video (on the link) The power and torque curves with and without throttle blades restrictions show that this bike was factory restricted, I’m guessing something to do with power or emission levels for US market. Mine wasn’t like this stock, the curves were nice and smooth, peaking where they should (around 13K+ rpm) for power. Power difference can be explained with the different dynos + I had a soft race tire on mine during the Dyno Test (shows less power than road tire) Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Hey Sylvain I know you use racechrono a little I actually wrote my own hardware that connects to my ecu and has a few sensors inputs for things like throttle pos, brake pos and rpm. I'm pretty sure you can probably get quite a bit of data from your ecu. Any way here is my build for that system that works with racechrono: ruclips.net/video/dO0U9xCl1ds/видео.html I think for you bike you can probably get a canbus adaptor to plug in to get most of the engine data. But I don't know enough about your bike.
When was this filmed? I am going to be that asshole - all of you indoors, same time, close proximity. Considering you've been all over Europe in the last month in the GP paddock... You know....
Its a work place, we all know covid can't get you at a dinner table, a supermarket or at work. Its only stood at the bar (without food) and hospitality venues/barbers that you can catch covid in.
I read you will be racing for Yoshimura SERT Motul Team in 2021. Congratulations!
Thank you for making this year Suzuki motogp bike awesome . Congratulation for winning the championship. Hope to see you in wild card in 2021.
Would be keen to see a update/ review of the EBC pads you've put in and how well the hold up on track 👍🏼
Not done long term use but initial feeling is OK. Z04 stays king of power though
@@slovencleta Never tried them but they are known for quality products and have been for a long time so probably worth a try
The ebc's lack the extra bite compared to the real race pads. They last a complete season though.
@@slovencleta with the real deal pads,you have the feeling you can always brake that little bit extra. It's like you have 110% available
@@SylvainGuintoli would the z04 work on road for fast riding or would they not heat up enough
Love the fact that a Wsbk world champion, MotoGP test rider and presenter goes to Cannock to get his bike sorted. Genuinely nice lads at PCR and great to see the business going from strength to strength from opening the business years back.
Happy for you. You were selected in Team Yoshimura SRT. Good luck for tittle defence man.
I did this to my L7 GSX-R 1000. Paired the front up with an RCS19, Brembo M4 calipers and SBS RS pads. Braided lines all round and now the bike is complete! I mad sure I got the Yoshimura ABS delete so the TC isn't messed up! 👌
Isnt it good to keep the ABS for circuit racing?
I understand why drag guys would delete it but why on the circuit do you delete it?
Beautiful bike!
congratulations on motogp championship!
Every review of the GSXR1000r mentioned the breaks as not being up to par with the Euro bikes. After pounding on those other bikes all summer, it is the very last thing Mr. Guintoli has changed!
Because they're totally fine as they are! But not if you're building a superstock
I had absolutely 0 issue with the standard brake setup. Actually thought they are very good for stock.
Obviously now the bike is getting more track orientated, ABS delete is a good mod’ to do
@@SylvainGuintoliMy GSXR1000R ABS system work fantastically for canyon carving in the rocky mountains(very different road conditions every turn). A new brembo master and some steel lines to top off system(and give me something to enjoy in the spring). But for the street, the ABS works well, so it stays.
I understand and love your bike. Thats the lovely thing about the GSXR, you can keep honing its edge.
Awesome videos!!! Could you review and talk about the tech air bag system?!?
Sylvain, you should come to Grobnik croatia, to show some lines...
Great video as always. Regarding the pads though, I'd rather have no pads then use EBC 🤢
Beautiful 🤩
Ebc have been the standard In the states for a lifetime, been out of the game for a while but Lockheed used to make some of the best racing mastercylinders. Thanks for the videos in this series love that you share that knowledge. I know you rode for at least three brands during superbike stint including the championship on the apprilia how would you compare them to the current livery.
I see you have Hel calipers on your bike now how do you find them ,? Great video's thanks very much.
Hello Sylvain, I didn’t even imagine that modification would take such in depth dissembling 😱. This is quite a nice video! I have a question: If ABS is known to be safer when hard braking on track and for trail braking as well, why would you choose to remove it? Is it because it will give you a better braking feeling without it or maybe is too restrictive in terms of performance for a Super Pro like you ?
ABS is safer on the road and it’s ok on track too. Without the ABS on track, it gives full control to the rider to brake super hard, which is nice, feels like a race bike
@@SylvainGuintoli These are great insights . I’ve learned more with you in this past month on the SG50 channel than in my entire life of researching and trying to put ideas together.
Why not discard the abs pump, use a yosh abs bypass or the like and get rid of the weight and clutter of the abs pump?
Gsxr World endurance champions Gsxrr motogp champion great year for Suzuki.
Don't forget Freetech endunce 125 champions 🤣
Why not remove the ABS pump to save weight?
Ciao Sylvain, i tuoi video sono fatti bene e sono molto utili, ma perchè non fai anche una versione in italiano? Nei primi video c'era anche la traduzione. Grazie
Awesome that you are getting all this done. But I’m surprised you didn’t go with the sensor that attaches to the brake line to gather and study brake data. Also, why did you leave the huge and probably heavy abs pump in the bike. I would have assumed all of the pumping and pump would have been removed.
My guess is its so that they don't need to either flash or switch out the ECU, so leaving the pump in and working likely keeps the ECU from throwing errors, probably a higher tier upgrade to remove it?
Also if he wants to put the abs lines back in at any point having the pump still there makes that easier I guess,
Might install brake pressure this winter. Abs pump is still in place as it’s a main part of the electronic’s package. For now I’m keeping the standard ECU as we are adjusting the engine brake mapping.
One of the next steps is to fit the Yoshimura race ECU with loom kit, this will allow to remove the ABS pump.
@@SylvainGuintoli Thanks for the quick response Sylvain, that makes sense now. I can't wait to see more of this project.
What are the plans over the winter? Any videos that can give us ideas of ways to keep entertained??
More tuition vids, some fun videos too, and more upgrades for my GSXR, she’s going to be an animal come spring 21 ✊🏻😎
@@SylvainGuintoli will you be racing with it?
One of the guys mentioned the possibility of running a brake pressure sensor off the H-line. Is there a possibility of adding that to your on board laps to work with the lean angle/throttle input sensors? The brake lever cameras are great but it's still very hard to get an idea of the brake pressures that you are trailing off with.
At the moment I don’t have any sensors on the bike other than GPS. Something to think about. Brake pressure, throttle opening %, gears & rpm would be useful.
Hi Sylvain. Why didn't you also remove the abs pump and just use an emulator for the wiring harness to not get any errors on the dashboard? It would have saved at least another 400gr.
Removing the ABS pump affects the Traction control and wheeling control. To remove it I need to fit an ECU like the Yoshimura race and race kit loom as well. Might do it soon
I see. Ok, thank you very much for the reply. Looking forward for the next mods on your lovely bike.
Brembo rcs19 next?
Ohlins forks???
can i ask why you didn't remove the abs pump ?
don't worry just read the answer below
I removed ABS and running Galfer lines, Brembo RCS, ABS delete plug, stock pads ( which lack feel ) thanks for the video, any plans to run different calipers?
Standard Brembo calipers are very good on the GSXR. Just tried the Hel Performance ones, works well too.
I like the standard GSXR pads, for me then work really well on track, they just get used quickly (on track)
didnt you consider removing the abs system alltogether to save some weight that high up on the bike?
The stock ECU needs the ABS pump to function (TC). Removing the pump would require a new ECU like the Yoshimura Race ECU & loom
@@SylvainGuintoli ahh okay..no plug in abs del avaliable? Yamaha has something like that for the servo and the o2 sensors
@@SylvainGuintoli yosh has an abs bypass kit. I used it until I got the kit harness and ecu. Works Great and you can toss the abs pump in the trash
Down in Cannock
Hi Sylvan, what are the maximum longitudinal decelerations (under braking then) that you achieve with your road GSX-R at low speeds? (i.e. 100-150 km/h)
Thank you very much.
Hello Sylvain, how did you find the EBC pads? im currently using Brembo Z04's which i find fantastic but have heard good things about the GPFAX and wonder if they are a comparable pad. Thanks
GPFAX work ok and much cheaper. But Z04 offer much more braking power.
@@SylvainGuintoli Thanks, yes i think i will give them a try as they might be good enough for my pace! but the have a feeling i will go back to the Z04's as i cannot fault them other than cost :)
Why are you riding track with ABS?
What’s your opinion of floating brake discs Sylvain?
Hello Sylvain... I have two questions: Do you install some ABS emulator? and What version or kit are you installed of 2D?... can you upload a video about that. Best regards from Mexico 🇲🇽
No need for ABS eliminator if you keep the ABS pump with the plugs (like in this video).
I have a 2D GPS and use the 2D license and software. No sensors yet but maybe for next year to be able to have brake pressure, throttle position and so on
@@SylvainGuintoli thanks!! 😎 full gas!! 👊🏼✊🏼
Interesting video ! By the way do the MotoGP bikes have any sort of ABS ? or not at all ? Cheers !
OK nevermind, I found my answers in the MotoGP technical regulations document ( no ABS allowed if someone is curious ).
@@Statek63 riders break extremely hard theres no point in abs because it would kick on anytime they enter a hard breaking zone
Yes that’s right ABS is forbidden in MotoGP (and WSBK)
@@SylvainGuintoli Still, if it were allowed, would you use it? Or do you think any other MotoGP rider would?
@@cristianr3712 Current ABS systems are great for safety but as it stands no pro rider would choose to use it on track as they are not set for ultimate track performance.
If ABS was allowed in MotoGP, there would be research et development to make them efficient, to control the front tire load depending on grip conditions. This would probably result in better performance and less crashes. But probably more difficult to overtake so not so good for the show.
Hi, I wonder, with the ABS still on the bike, do drifts / rolling burn outs and stoppies work properly?
Hi, should do. TC might not be too happy with drift and burnout but you can turn it off very easily in the menu
1. Can't you remove the ABS pump and save some weight?
2. Is that the stock master cylinder!?
1/You can but the electronics (TC) would not work any more, unless you fit the Yoshimura Race ECU and loom.
2/yes
@@SylvainGuintoli Thanks!
2. I suppose some time down the line you'll consider a replacement. I'd love to hear your opinion on a Beringer MC
Where do you find those zip ties!?
I actually have no idea ;) PCR performance in Cannock fitted them when they did the conversation. Would be worth giving them a ring 01543466499
@@SylvainGuintoli thanks for the quick reply. I'm in the US but I'll give the a call. I replicated them with zip ties and a cm of fuel line to offset the lines off of the forks.
Any idea why my brake lever is a bit spongy but as I ride the lever stiffens up? I bled the brakes and no bubbles in it.
That’s kidda normal, brake lever position and feeling always changes when the system heats up
@@SylvainGuintoli actually I've faced many issues with the brakes. Tried 2 different master pumps. Still same issue. Using hel steel braided lines. Brembo sintered brake pads. I have abs in between but. This is recently. 6 months I had no issues with the same parts. Previously on heating the lever would move out from reach and on cooling down would come back down. Also there is less feedback and less initial bite. I've used about only 30 percent of the brake pads. Any idea what I can do ?
@@kevinpinheiro2485 try cooling down the brakes and calipers with a brake cooling duct. I think your system gets too hot. Also try high performance brake fluid
@@xtom_99 didn't try the duct. Tried dot 5.1 race. But it was a weird situation. It worked 6 months no issues then suddenly this happens. Yesterday it got worse. I'm talking normal riding too it's over heating. But it's surely caused by over heating?
@@kevinpinheiro2485 is your bike hard to push by hand? Maybe the piston in the caliper is stuck which causes the brake to have friction with the disc all the time and overheat.
If not then I dont know anymore...
Try to service your caliper at a workshop (cleaning and making the pistons move freely)
No lithium battery? Do you know the weight reduction you’ve achieved on the bike?
Very nice! I wish I hadn't seen this video... I can feel my wallet emptying already! 😂
They say if you can stop 🛑 with EBC you aren’t going fast enough 😂
Hello Sylvain, nice mod and can't wait to see the results on the track, with the ABS delete and the new pads.
Also seeing the bike disassembled like this reminded me of a video that was about unrestricting the throttle blades on a stock GSXR 2017 ==> ruclips.net/video/e0T0p7TsV3s/видео.html.
With just an ECU flash and a stock bike, he was able to almost match the power you are making with a full exhaust.
Is that something that you have already looked into? Or maybe it is not applicable to the 2020 model.
Nice video (on the link) The power and torque curves with and without throttle blades restrictions show that this bike was factory restricted, I’m guessing something to do with power or emission levels for US market.
Mine wasn’t like this stock, the curves were nice and smooth, peaking where they should (around 13K+ rpm) for power. Power difference can be explained with the different dynos + I had a soft race tire on mine during the Dyno Test (shows less power than road tire)
Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Can I send in my $1 for when the bike is going to be raffled :)
Hey Sylvain I know you use racechrono a little I actually wrote my own hardware that connects to my ecu and has a few sensors inputs for things like throttle pos, brake pos and rpm. I'm pretty sure you can probably get quite a bit of data from your ecu. Any way here is my build for that system that works with racechrono:
ruclips.net/video/dO0U9xCl1ds/видео.html
I think for you bike you can probably get a canbus adaptor to plug in to get most of the engine data. But I don't know enough about your bike.
When was this filmed?
I am going to be that asshole - all of you indoors, same time, close proximity. Considering you've been all over Europe in the last month in the GP paddock... You know....
This was filmed a while ago, as per when the situation and rules allowed. Hoping for all to slow down and get under control soon 🤞🏻
Its a work place, we all know covid can't get you at a dinner table, a supermarket or at work. Its only stood at the bar (without food) and hospitality venues/barbers that you can catch covid in.