6 years after MSD tragedy in Parkland, Oliver family continues activism for gun safety
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- Опубликовано: 12 фев 2024
- Six years might as well be six months for the victims. A young man armed with an AR-15 walked into Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School on Feb. 14, 2018, murdered 17 people and wounded 17 more.
Manuel and Patricia Oliver, like all the other families who lost loved ones, say the pain of missing their son, Joaquin, is ever-present, and it only gets worse as Feb. 14 approaches.
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Continued Prayers and Condolences to the parents of their deceased child.
Indeed 🙏
My prayers are with all of you 🙏🙏❤️🙏🙏
You see a loner sitting by them selfs go talk to them and show them love and respect could prevent this type of things happening
My prayers are with you all 😢
I was just checking up on this just today and this comes out, wow. Condolencias a todas las familias afectadas :(
This guy was the badass who flipped off the disrespectful defense team. That same defense team that was laughing and joking with a murderer as well as trying to silence them during their statements.
2018.02.14💘
A well known trouble maker, who was well known by the Police, but did not do anything, went and killed a bunch of innocent people, while said Police stood around outside the classroom and did not intervene?? I fail to see how a tool is responsible for all this!
have you seen the overpopulation crisis in Florida? I woulda let nature take its course too
@@JK-vi3jm ok dude...no..do not say that again
Sorry for your loss. For real. But you do not get to utilize your victimhood to dicate to people what tools they are allowed to have to protect themselves and those around us. There is no such thing as "Gun violence," only violence, and disarmament is not making me or mine any safer. Especially when the "State" failed as miserably as it did leading up to, and during the tragedy that took your son.
Kindly leave us out of your trauma process.
By losing his son to someone who was allowed to purchase a gun because of the laws in Florida, he is by extension a victim of the laws that allow people to purchase guns and use them, so I’d say it’s within his rights to advocate for gun safety.
@@GochiTelir That individual was allowed to buy a firearm because of the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act signed into law by the Clinton administration (which also tried and "assault weapons ban" that did nothing) which provides for medical privacy. Because of that someone with involuntary psyche holds can't be registered in the NICS database as it is medical information.
The individual in question was of legal age and had no prior felony convictions, which is Federal law.
As far as the state goes, local law enforcement refused time and again to bring the kid before the courts for obvious psyche issues, which was well within the framework of state law.
From there you get them on a voluntary "no buy" list, or, having had an involuntary psyche hold, they answer "Yes" on the form that asks "Have you had an involuntary psyche hold" at which point no gun dealer is going to sell them anything.
So the "State" (ie: government) fails across the board....but lets give the state more power to restrict the rights of people who had nothing to do with anything. Yea, ok...
Alcohol and automobiles will kill far more people this year than malicious gun use will, but I don't see victim familes lining up to push for prohibition.
Which from a public health standpoint across the board is a great idea....but good luck with that.
Far easier to push buttons and hand the already inept and corrupt state a greater monopoly on violence than it already has.
So yea, leave us out of your trauma response. Thanks.
@@Mis-AdventureCH Okay none of what you said disprove the point I was trying to make. The federal law/ state law whatever still allowed him to obtain a gun which led to the death of his son. He is protesting for better gun safety laws which he is within his rights to do because he is a victim of those laws. Losing your child to gun violence which is a thing is not a trauma response. They are victims of a violent crime, they are not just traumatized.
@@GochiTelir Suffering that kind of event is the fuking definition of Trauma.
Their subsequent activities /actions / behaviors around that is a Trauma Response.
This is literally crayon level psychology.
That they have turned that Trauma Response into political activism that now intrudes on my world is where the line gets drawn. Period.
He is not a victim of laws or inanimate objects. He is the victim of a broken person who was medicated to the gills and was allowed to slip past safeguards already in place. On the day of the event he was a victim of state ineptitude that posted an incompetent into a protector role that they subsequently utterly failed at.
That they skip past all of that and try to deny me access to the optimal tools available to protect me and mine from that same kind of trauma is the height of arrogance and selfishness.
Especially when they have zero background in the dynamics of tactical, high strees incidents.....of which I have vast experience in as both a tactical operator with years in high threat enviroments and as an instructor in same.
So no, I will not co-sign any of this, despite my feelings of sympathy for their loss.
@@Mis-AdventureCH You’re going off topic, I’m not getting into the warning signs the shooter displayed, etc. I could care less. I’m going back to your original point where you said they basically need to stay in their own lane and that they’re not entitled to protest gun safety. The law allowed the shooter to purchase guns. The shooter goes into a school and kills their son with the gun he was legally allowed to obtain. How are they not victims of the law that allowed that to happen? And why are they not within their rights to protest gun safety?
A tradegidy, bit stop ruining everybody else's Valentine's day..