18:31 - You came for the meltdown but this is about professionalism of content creators and the game Hunt Showdown. To feel the full impact of the documentary, you need to watch it from beginning to end before you make comment. The impetus behind this video was not clout chasing, but to shed light on multiple incidents of a millionaire content creator maligning the reputation of a video game. Anyone can give a product a bad review or a bad subjective take on a piece of art, however, this incident goes much deeper than bad takes. It's deeply rooted in insecurity and instead of taking an L, Summit1g decided to trash Crytek's product that they have been passionately developing as a live service for years. Thank you for watching.
the guy did the same thing as beating ds1, and than years later trying the ds3 or elden ring ascended mod after having mind you, only beat ds1 ONCE..... and than getting pissed that they ate shit so damn hard........
Tbf if that happened to me I’d think that was suspicious as fuck. It’s not impossible but you’d have to be aiming so far above the enemy that they’d no longer be on screen to hit someone in the head and kill them. Only time I’ve been killed from that distance by a bow it was a blatant cheater using magic bullet.
@@RedshirtAfficionado Magic bullet doesnt exist in hunt, the only hacks that have been confirmed to exist are wallhacks. Its really not that hard to headshot at 70 meters if you use weapons like that, theres a dummy at the perfect range to practice that in the shooting range in fact.
@@bobey5022 Watch huuge’s videos “unstoppable cheaters” THEN come back and say something dumb like that again. Not only are wallhacks obviously not the “only cheat”, there’s aimbot, silent aim, kill aura, magic bullet, among many other colorful cheats. You literally could not be more wrong, it just isn’t possible.
Idk I'd personally be confused at first then see the distance and think that person's for sure cheating. Thats such an insane shot I'd need to have seen it in person to believe it wasn't cheats lmao
He claims that hunt showdown is an easy game and then gets absolutely destroyed. Instead of admitting he was wrong he starts saying that the game is shit. To be fair, if I was this bad after playing this game for 180 hours I'd probably react the same way.
After 2000 hrs I'm still very average. 180 hrs is nothing. So strange, coming from playing EFT, that he doesn't realize there might be an actual learning curve.
I didn't know who summit was, after seeing the video I now understand who Dr.Disrespect is copying. Even took the words liquid diarrhea right over.. 😂😂😂
He would shit on you lmao. Bruh I’d shit on you and I have 100 hours in this Garbo game. Hunt is a “I’m bored, need a filler game” type of game. Stop the cap
@@quicktoreason2722 your reply has nothing to do with the comment. No one’s saying they’re better than summit. Also this video is calling out people just like you, people that can’t admit that a game isn’t bad it’s just not for them.
You say that but I have watched him on and off for a decade and can say he's also one of the most sincere streamers in regard to his passion for his fan base. Can he be toxic about games? sure but I think that applies to all of us, I play many games that I call dog sh*t several times a day I play them when I die or a bug happens etc.. lol Only difference in his case is he is a famous streamer and people expect him to not be a normal person, that's why he's always been so good is he doesn't care about what other thinks he just gives his honest opinion.
@@deazy513x It definitely doesn't apply to all of us lol. It happens to a lot of people sure, but most people can see when a game has something going for it even if it's not for them. The issue with him is he's not only shitting on it, he's not only shitting on people who enjoy it, but he's doing it REPEATEDLY. Normal people don't sit on a game they don't like just to "Get their money's worth and show everyone how shit it is", his complaints are literally just him crying about not knowing the mechanics and refusing to give up on it when it's clearly not for him. I don't love the game, I only enjoy it with friends (and even they can get annoying when all they do is cry that 5-6 stars are just "Sweats" any time they make a mistake), but just shitting on people for liking it and then doing it over and over when you should just give up is crazy. Someone telling you that the sky isn't blue isn't an issue, it could be that way for them for a multitude of reasons, but yelling and constantly bitching every 30 minutes that it's not blue when no one said anything to them about it would piss anyone off.
Dude looks like the type of guy that does vape tricks, has a monster sticker on his car, and still goes to highschool parties. No clue why people watch him.
At this very second, while watching this video, I have summit on my second monitor, as he plays Hunt Showdown. Also, I've watched summit for 8 years, yeah, I'm a fan of him, but this shit was great. No hate from me brother. I love your content, W Spudy.
why should you hate? all in this video was constructive crticism on how his takes are straight up egotistical, delusional and unconsunstrictive, there was never a reason to hate, unless you're part time ret4rded
@@Largentina. This guy came over here in good faith and said something respectful to Spud and you have to insult him? Please think about being more respectful.
Fanning is supposed to increase accuracy? Like where you manipulate the mechanics of the revolver to fire it as fast as physically possible? Yeah, that tracks
He was trying to say that conversion pistol with fanning was more accurate than other pistols with fanning (which is mostly true) but he completely whiffed in the clip
@@ahiboy Dude, have you watched the video ? Summ1t has walked 50 yards away from the goal and waited for anybody kick, dribble or even slowly WAFT the ball in and you're seriously saying Suddy shouldn't have taken the shot...?
I cannot comprehend why anyone would want to watch a 40 year old act like an awful 8 year old. My kids are 19 now and have literally never acted like this.
I often ponder what lures people to the communities surrounding these salty, toxic and egotistical/narcissistic individuals, like Summitg, xQc, etc. I can personally not stand it when a streamer constantly blames the game or gets salty about their own performance, and that feeling is only amplified when its older streamers. Man, have some self-respect and dignity and go out and touch some fucking grass. Great video Spud. You've earned yourself a new subscriber.
@Krugmatik If you mean more new players, potential development and bigger community then also I don't think value was lost here. If people who watched summit, agreed with him then they are exactly the type of people that would disrupt the community and demand changes that would be terrible for the game, potentially destroying it's identity. Birds of feather flock together, the type of people he attracts mostly likes his approach and shares it. I don't say that they are not welcome, but ultimately if they have similar negative outlook then no good will come with them to the game, while if they disagree they might look into the game regardless of his opinion, but I find it hard to share enjoyment with people who cheer for downfall of someone's life's work.
content creators, and just gamers on the internet in general, are ALLERGIC to saying they don't like something. they always have to pretend to be objective and say "it's bad" when in reality it's just not for them
I don't like cs2, I think source is better. does that make me revolutionary? no it just means CS2 is dogshit and is a miracle people still play it imo. Summit had the same thing happen when he stopped streaming fortnite, he was just tired of having to act like he enjoyed something he didn't and I know how hard it is to fake your feelings and thoughts. something something I enjoy him but I think he's losing his touch as a content creator somewhat.
Yeah, this video is doing the same thing. He has always done this, always raged, about nearly every game. Idk if you guys have seen the summit reactions to tarkov bullshit, but this is nothing new. Idk feels like a pointless video. Summit can do and say whatever the fuck he wants, but most the video is about hunt. Good game, no doubt, but, bro, don't add summit into it if it isnt about summit
hunt for me (besides shoddy matchmaking in oceania) is only as hard as you make it, you take higher skill weapons like the sparks, then you need higher skill to use them effectively, rock a good ol' winfield, romero, bow etc and you make the game easier for yourself within their effective ranges. the fact he never swapped to gear that suits his level of experience and always stayed on a gun that actively worked against his playstyle just shows to me how little he cared for actually trying to enjoy the game. i'm a big old scout and awp man, i rocked the guns that worked well with the same playstyle when i started, bow, nitro, romero, crossbow, guns that all onetap at close range which made my awp aiming a transferable skill. maybe no one told him to swap off but with so many hunt players watching and devs even i'm very doubtlful Edit: ah fuck you bring it up thank fuck, had to pause and comment this before i got to that bit
As someone who has played the game and understands the idea of it, I find it soo funny that this man baby can't understand anything past point-shoot and sit still is grand. I also don't understand how people can watch someone who complains like that.
Just finished the video, it amazes me how you can put out such consistently quality videos of this length so consistently. I haven’t watched summit or played hunt in years but I was still engaged the whole 32 minutes. Cheers
I found out a long time ago that Summit jumps on games, plays poorly, and treats the player base poorly when they try to help. Never been sure if it's just engagement farming via viewer rage or self ego rage, thinking he's a master of every game because he is pro at some. Either way, this video does a great job of pointing out issues with his claims.
summit cries every night on stream i think its just part of the gig now. just last night he was screaming about Squad and that he can't see who the enemies are lol
I think in a way, he's just annoyed he's got his whole lifestyle and money locked into streaming. Dude needs to take a break or reconsider how long he wants to continue doing this for. People with "normal" jobs don't even complain this much.
Summit bothered me so much because in Sea of Thieves there was a time where he was arguably the biggest streamer. He had a LOT of influence in the community during a time the game was fairly dead. There was a lack of content and the whole internet was trashing SoT for being unfinished alpha game, not undeserved but I still enjoyed the game and saw potential. An issue that has always been controversial is something called "double gunning" where you animation cancel to fire two shots at once and basically one shot people in a game without headshots. It was kind of a cheesy exploit in my opinion but the hardcore community got very used to it because there was just nothing else to do in the game or focus on tbh. Anyway, the devs removed it by forcing pirates to run sword and gun, no more gun and gun. Summit cried and moaned and said the game was terrible and demanded it be changed back, he had enough power it really hurt the game at the time. The devs eventually caved and brought it back and honestly.... I feel the game is worse for it and always has been. I don't enjoy the new content or the game as a whole because of this one mechanic. I'm not hating on people who use it or try to master it but I just felt like it ruined a lot of what the game was. The pirate fantasy was thrown out the window to make it some silly paintball game. I really wish they had let us keep sword+gun and just added headshots if they wanted to make aim skill be more of a thing. Anyway, sort of a long rant but I lost respect for summit doing that and basically holding the game's community hostage saying "I won't play this terrible game until you bring back the only thing *I* like" - Honestly if the hunt showdown devs tell him to shove off good for them. Summit is just a crybaby in my eyes.
I also stopped playing SoT because the sprint cancel, just not really fun being forced into eye of reach and pistol or else you loss against the sweatiest brigs, and this is coming from someone who can do it but it's just tedious and not really fun
Didn't know there was a point it wasn't in the game though, I'm sad to not have experienced that. I came very late into the game though, season 7 I believe
@@ahairylobster8524 Don't get me wrong it's a lot of fun if you're into this style of game and there's still a lot of good to experience there.. I just think the very top end of the meta is a bit frustrating like your earlier comment stated. I played with a crew who weren't FPS gods and while I could animation cancel and aim just fine, they could not and when the game was about swordplay they enjoyed it much more. They learned to use their tactics and movement, blocking and hopping until they were also hitting some crazy pistol flick shots surprising themselves. Though they all felt it was unfair and unfun to engage with double gunning spawncamping crews. The exploits ranged from silent boarding, holding block as you get on ladder to just swiping at spots for a hit confirm sound to be ready for where people spawn to instant kill them. The game is cool but when you optimize the fun out of it, it becomes a little toxic to say the least.
The sword has never been forced though and I don't remember it happening like that at all, It is obviously possible that I just missed it, not playing for a bit. But I have been playing the game on and off since week 1 and was pretty deep in the whole doublegunning tdm stuff. I remember the progression as essentially this: - When the game launched you could instantly doublegun without any animation cancelling just by switching guns, it was during this meta summit played a lot and got big in the game. - To nerf this, the devs added a delay when swapping guns, this delay though felt extremely clunky, because it would play literally every time the gun was brought up, which happens literally every time you move around. So this nerf also affected people who weren't doublegunning. Many people complained, including summit. - The devs changed the delay so that it would only play the first time you bring the gun out and not after sprinting/moving around. This created the animation cancelling that you are referencing in your comment, where it was possible to cancel the delay by quickly sprinting in between gun swapping, making it possible to shoot 2 shots instantly again. - About 1.5 years ago they nerfed it again by hardcoding the delay to happen after you shoot a bullet, making it impossible to circumvent, it is now literally not possible to shoot 2 shots instantly like you used to (unless you have cheats). During this you could still kind of sprint cancel though, it just wasn't as fast as it used to be. - They then nerfed it even further, making sprint cancelling not possible at all, which is the current state of the game, there is no way to circumvent the delay in any way without cheats. If you have any evidence of sword ever being forced(I'm 99% sure it wasn't) I would legitimately like to see it, as I said I have played SoT on and off since it came out, and was watching a lot of summit back then and I have literally never heard about it.
@24:07 that WAS a good one 😂 Tarkov is a shell of what it used to be. Maybe not on his computer, but i feel like my frames have been cut in half by the addition of the flea market, however long ago that was. Pair that with incredibly poor audio occlusion and you have the recipe for a bad time
if tarkov is a shell then what the hell is hunt? this game has fallen into the actual depths of hell. years of no content, barely different events throughout the year, they added heavy rain at least and a boat load of skins every second week to buy. tarkov went to shit with monetisation recently but at least the game adds content. talk about playerbase too, sheesh hunt has lost half its playerbase in the last 2 months and has only been bleeding players. this game was good once upon a time. it has had severe balance issues for a long time and still has severe balance issues but the biggest issue is that the game truly has no purpose. kill the lobby and thats the game, nothing special. nothing different. the same thing every game where the only variance is how many people die in the first 4 minutes. tarkov was good once upon a time too. that game is in a better state now than it has ever been in the past. ever. one of these games is run by a dev team that is at least trying to push the life of their game.
@@kregman6928 Uhhh... Hunt constantly adds new guns, and experiments with new and event perks and adds new weather constantly. We recently got a new boss, and a new map has been teased since before your comment. DeSalle came out in the last 2 years as well. Hunt definitely gets tons of new content outside of dlc and cosmetics. I don't know what you've been doing or seeing, but you're so wrong it's not even funny. And hunt lost it's playerbase rn because no new event and people are gathering excitement for the engine update that's coming in a month or so. Tarkov mostly just gets guns and various balance tweaks, and poorly optimized maps once in a blue moon. The mp7 is still the strongest meta gun, and that hasn't changed in years. Honestly, what are you yapping about? It's about as far removed from reality as it gets. EDIT - also you're saying the "loop" of hunt is boring and bland, but it's not like Tarkov's is any better. You go in, kill the lobby, that's the game - from then on you watch for scavs and loot, if you're even gonna loot. Many people just go in for pvp once they're rich enough. You really don't have a point to make, do ya?
@@stankobarabata2406 it took hunt multiple years to add a bad map to their game. it took them multiple years to add a bad boss to their game. it took them multiple years to introduce weather that everyone hated and still does hate. the only good thing about the weather is that it makes games more interesting for the first time you experience it then the game goes straight back to being the same exact cycle over and over. the new map might be good, hopefully its better than that last hunk of junk they added. hopefully the new boss is better than scrapbeak and isnt irrelevant to gameplay like the alligator is. you literally strengthen my point about how the game is bleeding players. all they had to do was introduce a new map earlier or an actual event instead of collect cockroaches and punch scarecrows for the 8th time in a row. a different gamemode to keep the loop interesting. literally anything other than what the devs did, which was nothing. for multiple years. they did literally nothing to attract new players or to keep a large playerbase for years. the only people still playing this game are people that find tarkov too stressful and die hard fans. which isnt a bad thing on its own but the devs needed to do more to keep players coming back. they changed ammo and stuff which was interesting until you realise you use the one absolutely busted thing or its just irrelevant completely. same thing as the perks. just get the self revive and everything else doesnt matter anyways. I havent played in a few months so maybe they added more perks but perks and guns dont bring people back to the game or keep people playing the game. tarkov is very clear with content addition and do it consistently throughout the year. tarkov in the last year has added more content than hunt has added in the last 3 years. which is why people keep coming back to tarkov. the gameplay loop alone keeps people interested in the game and there is so much you can do within that gameplay loop that your content will last for literal years if youre into that kind of thing. the quests alone keep people coming back. hunt has no such thing in the game, weekly challenges sure, kill armoured dude 10 times for the 84th week in a row. the game lacks anything in its core loop that can keep peoples attention. the ai is irrelevant to the game, bosses only exist as a hotspot for pvp and thats the game. go in, kill 8 people, go out. that is all the game has. you can say that is all tarkov has but thats just blatantly dishonest.
@@kregman6928 it didn't really take them years to add a new map. Hunt only ever started picking up once events became a thing, before that yea the game was pretty obscure. But saying "it took them years" when 1. it didn't take that much, as I said Tarkov took twice as long to add a single new thing that wasn't a piece of gear or another bland one shot boss that's no different to code than a Scav and 2. Their dev team is pretty small. Like, in the tens, not even twenties of people I think. It's normal they can't churn out content like it's fortnite or PuBG. And again, the game has more players than it ever had recently, you're again thinking about player bleeding and I keep telling you - that is because people play on events, and there hasn't been an event for over a month BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING ON THE ENGINE UPDATE. And again, you're saying multiple years, but they're constantly adding guns and effects, and working on bosses/maps meanwhile and keeping us up to date, and now the engine update. In comparison Tarkov barely got a new map a year ago, and it was unoptimized for several months. With a studio that's prolly several times bigger than Crytek's Hunt division. And clearly guns and stuff keep people in the game, because Hunt's playerbase has only been growing in numbers despite dips in between events. Used to be this game had barely 5k people in it back in the day. Empty lobbies everywhere to the point where you were playing a pve game half the time because there's not a single other team on the map. Now it's peaking anywhere between 20k to 40k players on event times, especially on hyped stuff. The game has problems. I am one of the more pessimistic people about it, in truth, my friends are much more fanatical towards it than I am. Desync used to drive me insane, I hate many guns' sights (hence why I primarily use the Drilling because it's got nice clear sights), I hate certain people's dumb playstyles that Crytek encourages and praises like trappers and bushcampers. I hate many balance things - including the ammo you mentioned, I hate how special ammo are basically required to play the game now unless it's long ammo guns.. I dunno what you hate about Desalle though, mind elaborating on that? I'm just curious. Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, I'm calling you out because you're blatantly spouting half-truths and straight up lies. I dunno why you're doing that though.
Great vid spuddy! It's easier to get tilted in the hardcore shooters and I can understand his frustration from an emotional level. But his rage was very misguided and he was being stubborn as hell about it.
As someone who find (solo) necro problematic in a lot of ways, there is clearly a reluctancy from sumsum to take in and adapt to new information. Best way I explain the burn body meta is that (vs. teams) when a body goes down, that becomes the the control point of the fight. You want to contest the body by burning or reviving/choking it and the current event that gives everyone the ability revive burned out Hunters, shows how important the perma-death from burning is, as right now most fights play out with the last teammate running away and waiting to come back to red-skull revive his burned team-mates. That said, while the new tutorial did some good, there NEEDS to be an more in-depth, in-game tutorial about revives and necro. Even if it is just "Hey you completed the two tutorials, here is a short 3 min video about the difference between solo and team play". I've played the game since early access and ever since the introduction of solo necro I've seen a spike of discord/reddit posts from new players asking about "how did this guy come back up after I killed him? I thought this was a perma-death game" and to be expected, when you explain about necro, they usually go "well that is kinda bs!". Because one of the first thing people know about hunt is "you go down, you are out".
@@nathanmitchell7961 And now makes videos trolling 10yr olds (SoT). Imagine playing Hunt like its CS and expecting it to go well? Must suck to find a game that you can't play like every other FPS and be too old and set in your ways to change
@@nathanmitchell7961 Mad? I'm not the one destroying my equipment because i got poopoo'd on. The entire point of all of this was that the man has nothing to prove to anyone after more than a decade - but still playing like a 16yr old that's never grown up throwing a tantrum because the world isn't bowing to him
@@CyberGenesis1 Classic cherrypicking, breaks his monitor one time and you're actually unironically using it as a slight when he hasnt broken any other equipment before or after that day. I dont disagree his acting like a sad loser but it doesnt mean im not going to call out the pressed RUclips commenter getting mad over it, its funny to know you're biggest enemy is a streamer that roasted your clunky game. If he was roasting a game you hate, you'd be celbrating his rage on all fronts, its just fake outrage.
Feel a bit bad for him running into one of the most toxic groups in the game at his skill level, no chance at competing there with the no-lifers really with where he's at. He doesn't understand the game to the point where he can really criticize the more nuanced flaws of the game, so while I still find his lack of professionalism wrong, I can somewhat empathize with his frustrations. For reference, I'm sitting at around 3k hours, so I do have an inkling of what I'm talking about in regards to the games flaws--- overly simplistic MMR system, poor/inadequate in-game moderation of behavior and cheating, a particular proneness of the game to exploits and their prevalence (configs, 3rd party software, various de-rendering exploits, the new no platform account, along with some balancing issues.) I've replicated several of these exploits easily. Ethically so, mind you. I make sure to get no kills and conc bomb myself immediately after replicating to get footage to show to crytek privately, and never share how to do them. I've also been in discord channels/servers with some of the less-than-honest clans, so I can verify that many members of said clans do regularly abuse exploits and various 3rd party software, along other unfair advantages to manipulate the game--- although they generally fall just short of straight-up 3rd party hacks, or at least they don't openly brag about them as much and try to conceal them. I'm rarely one to call hacks, but I do know the game well enough to know them when I see them, particularly in the time I've spent studying cheaters through spectating, the aforementioned discord servers, and heart-to-heart discussions with former members of various clan-members of hunt (although some clans are very strictly against cheating, and arguably enforce those standards better than crytek itself.) I'd be happy to share clips and recordings I've gathered anytime if you'd like to use them, pretty much unconditionally, if you'd like to discuss the matter in a video. Great work as always! @TheSpudHunter
people just seem to love haters and love to hate. if such a hater can get so much fame. was summit1g always this way? idk, but the energy is cringe beyond belief. nyeeeaaaah my braaaaiiin!
I didn't realize you were being sarcastic with the "not a personal attack" thing until like 28:26, so when you started completely dogging on him I lost it haha. Great video, I've always hated these kinds of players in competetive games because they are consistently the most vocal members of a community despite not remotely knowing what they're talking about. I'm honestly impressed this guy manages to keep a stable viewer base if this is how he acts all the time. It would just make me sad to watch this, if nothing else.
@@odintexas4064he's not a bad dude and quite entertaining. He just completely showed his azz over Hunt and refused to accept it was a him issue. Very embarrassing!
14:52 one of the things I love about Hunt is sometimes I feel like I’m playing a strategy game. I know I can put that downed solo between myself and the incoming enemy and pit them against one another. So often I have a chance to take a shot, but I whisper to myself “go fourth my minions, sew chaos so I may ascend upon the ladder it creates”. I also know that these units I have set upon my enemy are volatile and I often must put them down myself after leveraging them. Some people just don’t have the brain for it, they just want PURE twitch hand eye skill. That’s fine if that’s what you like but don’t disparage a game because it’s more strategy oriented.
I agree with most of this, though I do have one thing to mention: Crytek as a company are kinda shady. Ignoring some back end behind the scenes stuff that raises a lot of red flags, the CMs are *constantly* showing their asses and being toxic toward the community, downplaying problems with the game and playing damage control. They're very "corporate", yet super unprofessional all the same time. Love the game, have loved it for the last 2 years going strong, and I don't see it changing, but Crytek as a company aren't all that great. Also your stream clips are absolutely unhinged and I adore the energy, great juxtaposition to your calm voiceover
nobody saying the game is perfect, most people are just pissed he completely trashed the game beause he refuses to actually learn any of the mechanics and expects he can just run and gun like 90% of shooters out there
I agree that Necromancy could be adjusted bc it's really annoying that you NEED to camp a body for like 40-60 seconds just bc a perk EXISTS, slowing you down massively if you want to confirm the kill, or keeping you in an area to be third partied. Other than that, Hunt is genuinely one of the best FPS games on the market purely from hitbox, servers/hit registration and the absolute BEST audio in an FPS game to-date, all three being things almost every other big name FPS gets wrong. I really can't think of things I dislike about Hunt Showdown, there are things that annoy me, but the core game is just so well polished compared to something like Apex Legends, obviously not the best comparison but the audio, servers/hit reg and hitboxes in that game are ABYSMAL in comparison, and I'm someone who absolutely loves Apex.
@@metalcobraI agree with your comment, I quit due to kill-trades happening in close quarters. If you are shooting say, at the next building across the street, hitreg can feel great. But inside a building, when I prefire a shotgunblast at a spot I know you are at, for me to shoot, you to fall over dead, and then I fall over dead like 300ms later, it just feels SO. BAD. I wouldn't mind if I played normal guns, but I like to play solo vs squads, and if I can make it into your compound with a shotgun I think I have a fighting chance. But falling over dead to a guy who pulled out his sawed off Romero that I didn't hear fire on my client before he's BEEN dead for a few hundred ms, it just feels so so wrong :( Most of his points are valid though :) the audio is amazing, hotboxes feel right (if not a little overinflated compared to the model tbh), game runs great and feels great to shoot. But man, the net code needs help (only if you are a piece of trash shotgun user like me tho 😢)
@@metalcobra my comparison was Apex Legends audio, servers/hit reg and hitboxes to Hunt Showdown's. no matter how much you dislike Hunt's game servers and hit reg, it's a fact that it's just 100% better than Apex's, the game that makes 2000x more financially and has 20x the playerbase. that's pretty impressive IMO
Man, it's sad to see somebody who has such a big following just blindly trash a hard working dev team. He's shown himself to be detached from reality as of recent. The guy could do with remembering that he's nearer to 50 than 20.
I love how crytek even put a window telling you, "if u press spectare u cant revive anymore" for cases like this, but instead of reading the window hes just derp instaclick no
Necro needs another look i think. Like not being able to rez when you burn. At that point you are gonna die already, it just stalls the other player/s. Or if we want some skill behind it, make it that you keep burning when you stand up and you still keep burning when you die (only as solo of course).
Only issue I take with this video is that the extract camping thing was a one off collab with a streamer known for it (stankrat) and not his usual strategy. I feel like you probably knew that since you had to specifically look for that clip. Either way, it strikes me as weird to then mention it again later as a jab in the outro as if its his go to way of playing. Other than that, good video and I agree he doesn't represent himself professionally a lot of the time.
I first saw Summit1g's stream about 10 years, along with guys like Chocotaco, Halifax, Doctor Disrespect, etc. And to this day, I have no idea what the appeal of Summit is. He doesn't even really rage, he just whines. It's baffling. Summit is the poster child for group of people who played games that gave them aim assist or other helping hands along the way. It's like if he isn't shooting at someone down a six foot wide tunnel it's too hard. Like "I lit a stick of dynamite, held it, and then it exploded, this game sucks" - what the actual hell.
Hey Spuddy! Your passion is an art of itself, and its been a pleasure experiencing it. You are a real one, and I look forward to every video. You've got an infectious way of making a point funny, and logical.. and dude I fuckin love it!
Spuddy unintentionally unearthed the biggest internet weirdos. A few people in the comments section commenting like 15 times with "SUMMIT GOOD, SPUD BAD" in multiple variations. Great vid, Spud. I know you know this because you're not new to the internet, but don't let the weirdos bother you. 💪
Most people confuse ADHD with having anger issues. When in fact they aren't angry at all. Controlling Emotions is very hard. Thinking that he's a neurotypical person is the first mistake.
He's not actually super wrong about the game not being super complicated. It's just unique, and has unique things to learn in order to well. If he just put in the time to learn, I'm confident he'd be pretty good actually, but he didn't and probably just because he didn't really like the game much to start. It probably wasn't something that interested him and that's why he didn't give it a fair shake. That and a tremendous ego, but yeah. Honestly, it would've been fine if he just admitted that he didn't understand the game and didn't care for it enough to want to learn how to play better. That's all.
Note his remark about not being able to remember all the game mechanics. He's no longer a kid who is capable of following teacher instructions about how to learn and perform tasks. As an adult, he needs to sit down and systematically study in order to avoid being frustrated. But without researching and studying ahead of time, he simply wasted those two days of gameplay, rather than give himself the fundamentals to really enjoy the game experience.
I would argue that most games aren’t complicated at all. It’s the way different mechanics interact with eachother and keeping up with it all as shit hits the fan. That goes for every FPS in existence. But saying it’s not a complicated game while being actively fucked by other players really puts in perspective that maybe he should shut his mouth and learn. He clearly doesn’t have the game figured out.
I mean i kinda understand him but it's his boiling blood talking and not himself, I absolutely LOVE hunt i played it for about a year got 400+ hours in it but when i managed to consistently stay on 5 to 6 star the game just gets so tedious i can't bring myself to play it anymore, In my recent hours when i experienced that situation where you are stuck and there is nothing but a long deadzone field all around you and multiple snipers i just literally alt tab and open runescape and wait until i hear footsteps... It's the opposite of fun once extracting doesn't feel the same anymore and when you play against people who know how you are supposed to play this game.
I watch summit1g only cuz my friend introduced me to him. I love Dark and Darker, played it way less than Escape from Tarkov but I love DnD more just cuz its different and the devs work quicker and deal with the bans better than bsg imo. To see Summit complain about Hunt: Showdown, is actually mind boggling because im wondering if thats what caused DnD to (edit) "not" pick up even harder and faster in the past. Idk when he played DnD but I imagine his "OPINION" affected many people to not trying the game. I DONT PLAY HUNT NOR LIKE IT, but i do think fundamentally as a genre and separate game mechanics and style its great. cowboy western olden age mystery horror extraction make ur bullets count type game in my own words. great vid Spuddy
My only problem with Hunt is that it feels overtuned on the amount of AI and sound traps, sometimes to a degree it feels like the main star of a match, I've been on either end of that a lot of times actually (my stealthy approach being ruined by a nearby grunt, a enemy team trying to run away then getting third partied by hellhounds themselves, locations I NEED to get to but are completely surrounded by crows and/or 3 Hives, and so on). If Crytek could just tone it down a bit, Hunt would be GOLDEN in my eyes.
Hunt Showdown is an amazing game, I understand that I am also bias towards the game as it has been my main game since I got into the last close alpha test before steam early access. It's also not a game for everyone as I have had most of my friends on steam try the game and less than half of them still play it or stayed with it to really learn and enjoy the game. The game has a lot of moving parts and getting use to Hunt's game play is a huge learning curve. Heck just navigating the UI menu is hard enough on it's own let alone learning how to deal with players and the game's AI. But it very fun and rewarding if you can take the time to learn and start to see improvement in your play. I have little over 3k hours clocked since starting the game nearly 6 years ago.
It's awful bro. And scammy. It's Region locked bullshit. But not clearly stated or labeled as such. Anyone who defends region locked games needs to take a fucking hike.
@WeedleIV 0 seconds ago I don't disagree with pretty much any point about how he acted playing hunt but repeatedly saying "this isn't a hit piece" and then saying things like he's in his 30's still acting like a teenager, he has no self respect, he has bad aim, etc doesn't make sense to me. I'm not even a summit fan but saying "This isn't a personal attack" and them flaming him for 30 minutes is what rubbed me the wrong way. Love your content spuddy just my 2 cents on an otherwise very entertaining video!
Usually a "hit piece" contains manipulations and lies. Everything was streamed and uploaded by sum sum and his team. Frankly it's embarrassing and I'm surprised he streamed it at all without doing like every other content creator does and practice offline to learn the game. This merely is a showcasing of his cl0wnish cringy behavior, pointing out he has millions of smoothbrained followers, and explaining he has a responsibility to not turn his sheep followers into a cancel mob because he refuses to learn a game and stay bad at it.
Summit is not the type of guy I like. I find him annoying at times, so I don't watch him. But, dedicating a 30 minute video to a fellow content creator, constantly complaining about him, and then sprinkling in the occasional "this isn't a hitpiece", is arguable at least as unprofessional as the behavior you accuse Summit of. If you're calling a guy out, at least have the balls to own up to it. Most actual Crytek partners are themselves complaining about the same shit Summit is, and rightfully so. Some redeeming factor is that you're at least punching up.
If it’s lost on you, that preemptive “This isn’t a hit piece” bit is purely satire. Anywho, Summit is a clear fucking manchild, he doesn’t play the game, and while Crytek content creators have valid reasons to be judging the game, that does not excuse Summit’s pathetic behavior and refusal to learn the game he’s playing while actively shitting on. Professionalism is a dead word in the influencer world. The difference between the two is that Spud here is 100% correct, and Summit is a fucking nunce.
I've got 2k hours on this game and i will without a doubt say the while the game design might be nice and the game itself was nice, the devs are making terrible decisions and the state of the game is terrible, they couldnt even patch a butcher melee bug for years, and then in the end said that it wasnt a bug, and later on fixed it(makes no sense, they just proved us right), also where is the context to the clip at 5 minutes, its just cut out, i can get a lot of out of context's clips of anyone while they're streaming and make them look bad, , just like ppl did with Andrew Tate, "burning and necro make the game less campi" ?, unless ur in like 4* elo every match u queue into, ppl will and do stand above the body with a shotgun waiting for it to be revived, or just sit in a corner closest to an entrance and camp there with a shotgun, we must have played a different game cos im yet to experience a " less campi" hunt showdown experience, although i definitely agree with ur takes on Summit, bro took it way to far all bcs he sucks at the game, u cannot say "this game isnt as hard as u think it is" and then proceed to get destroyed every match, why isnt my guy wiping lobby's then, but instead complaining 24/7 and not understanding that u cant play this game how u like, bro has 6hours in the game and expects to be as good at it as he is in tarkov, while in that game he has over thousands of hours, should of rolled clips of his first few hours on tarkov lmao, i mean tarkov is superior to hunt showdown, there is no discussion there(if ur speaking numbers), all in all i somewhat agree with ur takes on summit and the game hunt showdown, but i've been trough ups and downs of hunt showdown and the bs of it and devs not listening to a single thing we tell them that is wrong and never patching things that are broken and or bugs for years on, but i've stopped to play the game since i stopped liking it and the changes that were coming in and out werent to my liking, now instead i play ranger solo in GC and have a wonderful time(not really), good video though.
Yep completely agree with this comment. Summit overreacted and talked trash about Hunt. But the devs of this game... they anger me very much. There is so much potential for Hunt that the devs won't use instead making DLCs and Battlepasses.
@@MoonSteppah Events are nice and I like the new weapons, tools and perks that come with them but imo the game could be so much more. Events have not that of an impact on the gameplay loop and I wish they would bring more changes to the core game mechanics
@@MoonSteppah recently me and a friend were doing katana only games where we only had the one weapon equipped until we killed a group and stole their guns. We kill a boss, banish, and finish the banish. Pick up dark sight and find a trio camping us with snipers. There werent many exits or ways around a field battle with only katanas and a single derringer, so we waited. They took so long to advance that i got up from my desk, went to the bathroom, went upstairs for a glass of water and by the time i wrapped back around to my room they had only then reached the edge of the compound.
@TheSpudHunter I didn't watch that stream from the start, nor did I stay for long as it looked like he was about to have another gamer melt-down. If you want to dive deeper into it, it seems like Pinzo ("famous" Predecessor player) also spoke about similar "C"ory. Check the video: Pinzo made Summit1g hate predecessor (TPQ8WbWOh5w) BTW: YES! totally new game, you should hop on it. Also Summit keeps hitting a character (Grey stone) during his ultimate, where he literally regains HP if you attack. It's hilarious how "League of Legends" or other top-down MOBA players think they can jump onto this game and first round be world champions.
You're a Legend Spud. I think most of us are pretty tired of summit's attitude towards most things really. The games he attempts to play, the followers he treats like shit, and the devs he speaks to without even the bare minimum amount of professionalism. It has been a pleasure watching all of your content and popping in to the streams Spuddy. Thank you so much for bringing respect, hard work, and professionalism to the platforms. It isn't common. I think if we had more like you the internet might break, but I feel like you respect the value of my time, and additionally your own. I've been working on creating a cozy place for myself in Hunt Showdown. And I will be honest, THE AVERAGE PLAYER IS STILL BETTER THAN ME. And that's okay. This is due to me not having a working knowledge of few a things and the game having a lot of nuance that is necessary to understanding and finetuning your skill. I have enjoyed the game more than most other pvp extraction shooters, I cannot recommend it enough. The audio actually makes sense, solos are not under or overpowered, and I'm not literally feeding and watering my PMC like a fucking Tamagotchi. Hey Summit -> You wanna elaborate on how feeding a digital avatar while you camp extracts like you always have is more skill intensive than having a working knowledge of audio ques and a way to solve problems in real time when you're out of position, go ahead.........I'll wait.😂
Definitely hits the nail on the head about professionalism with someone of his stature on the platform and how his response was anything but professional. Well put together!
One would hope that a video like this might actually make a difference in how streamers view professionalism in their own careers. I think you made some fair points, and I share your love for this game, but I think that there are serious issues in the Hunt community that are almost never properly addressed. I would say the biggest issue in Hunt Showdown currently is the plague of racist and toxic [KKK]lans in the 5-6 star range of the game. Depending on how long you've been around, you are probably aware of them yourself. These Klans pride themselves on doing their absolute best at making the game a miserable and unsportsmanlike experience for others. Every time I play this game I am guaranteed to run into the same groups of players who use exploits and straight up cheats, who never miss an opportunity to use racial slurs and bigotry. You might not realize that in this very video you clipped summit getting stream sniped by one of said Klans, as this is pretty common behavior for them (They proudly do this and upload proof to discord and their youtube). At 20:15 this is a member of one of the hate Klans who is exploiting a feature of the game to artificially lower his rank and get placed in lobbies where he can abuse players of lower skill levels, in this case to snipe summits MMR range of matches. I wish Crytek would actually do something about these kinds of people in the community, but despite uploading countless recordings of these guys being toxic, racist and just crapping all over the community guidelines in general, they have been playing unrestricted for years. I don't know if a documentary about these Klans would lead to proper change, but its something I wouldn't mind helping with if its a project you were willing to try. In any case, I appreciate the content! Keep it up!
Have a few issues with this video: Professional; "A professional gamer plays video games full time and competes in tournaments in order to win prizes. Pro gamers are also paid by sponsors or advertisers when they play, and sometimes they're part of a team of players where they earn money as well" Summit WAS a professional gamer, he just streams playing games he wants to play now, this is NOT the same thing. If he was acting this way when he was a professional gamer then this would be a air argument but his not. His been spammed day in day out with messages "Play Hunt, Play Hunt, Play Hunt! contaminating his expectations. Do we really hold any other streamer to this unrealistic colloquial use of the word "professional"? Also at 14:23 you said Summit is at fault for playing it like Halo but at the start of the video you said you play it like a deathmatch? Like is the only dfference here, that you dont outwardly complain about it? 25:07 This is pretty odd that you chose the one stream were he was playing with the RatofTarkov who has an entire channel dedicated to running the rattiest spots on all maps, this was the one stream he wanted to show Summit the places he camps at. There are thousands of streams of Summit playing Tarkov at a pretty high level but you specfically chose this one, seems very odd to me. I also remember you doing a video very similar in tone to Summits reaction in Tarkov where you constantly complained about loosing your gear and the games mechanics, which i find comparative to the issues you have with Summit, could you explain how this is different? I think the rest of the video is very good.
My issue with summit is just I wish he just could say that something isn't for him or that he isn't good at, "insert type of gameplay here" so he doesn't find it enjoyable. Like there is nothing wrong with that. Not a single person is god like or even good at every type of game. Like me, personally I stay away from multiplayer fighting games cause I get stomped on and tilted really badly and can never get a hang of the more complex mechanics and movesets. That is a me issue, not an issue with the fighting game genre. I feel like he thinks that he has to be good or his audience will get mad, when really its how he handles when he isn't good that they get mad about.
Watched him play smite, it was hard to watch. He uninstalled then reinstalled, I'm happy smite is getting new eyes on it but I'm worried he`s going to run into something he doesn't like then complain. For games like smite and hunt it will take a lot of time to get better and I don't think he has it in him to practice 200+ hours and investigate the games via RUclips or twitch to learn more. A big reason why SOT was fun for him was because he got to mess with people who didnt know any better and who had 0 mechanical skill. Basically beating up newbies for fun, he`s coming to the realization he cant do this with hunt or smite. Given time I wonder how many games he will try to jump on that will give him the same feeling as early SOT.
With 1700 hours and 6 stars I’d love to just play a few games of duos vs trios with him and carry his ass to show him the reason we have fun with the game 🤣
18:31 - You came for the meltdown but this is about professionalism of content creators and the game Hunt Showdown. To feel the full impact of the documentary, you need to watch it from beginning to end before you make comment.
The impetus behind this video was not clout chasing, but to shed light on multiple incidents of a millionaire content creator maligning the reputation of a video game. Anyone can give a product a bad review or a bad subjective take on a piece of art, however, this incident goes much deeper than bad takes. It's deeply rooted in insecurity and instead of taking an L, Summit1g decided to trash Crytek's product that they have been passionately developing as a live service for years.
Thank you for watching.
the guy did the same thing as beating ds1, and than years later trying the ds3 or elden ring ascended mod after having mind you, only beat ds1 ONCE..... and than getting pissed that they ate shit so damn hard........
Is probably PR stunt to have newer and upcoming creators like you make vids of him. Trust nothing, but RFK Jr. lol
He died to a Molotov, since then hes been an angry person, its fine.
I will refrain from an opinionated comment until the end as you have asked. But if he actually trashed dnd I’m upsetty spaghetti
The man forgot to Rez himself and got hit with a bow 80 meters away and says the game is bad? This guy must be a one star rank.
Game is fucking dog shit. Scammy bullshit.
Defend region locking I dare you
Classic boomer gaming right? Lol
Rule of thumb. If it has fire/molotovs in the game summ1t will be dogshit at it
haha
SoT?
😂😂😂
a reference to the 1g moment where he was on stage playing at a tournament?
still hes prob better at every game than you lmao
The idea of getting nailed at 81 meters by a bow and thinking anything but "Damn nice shot" is WILD.
Tbf if that happened to me I’d think that was suspicious as fuck. It’s not impossible but you’d have to be aiming so far above the enemy that they’d no longer be on screen to hit someone in the head and kill them. Only time I’ve been killed from that distance by a bow it was a blatant cheater using magic bullet.
@@RedshirtAfficionado Magic bullet doesnt exist in hunt, the only hacks that have been confirmed to exist are wallhacks. Its really not that hard to headshot at 70 meters if you use weapons like that, theres a dummy at the perfect range to practice that in the shooting range in fact.
@@bobey5022 Watch huuge’s videos “unstoppable cheaters” THEN come back and say something dumb like that again. Not only are wallhacks obviously not the “only cheat”, there’s aimbot, silent aim, kill aura, magic bullet, among many other colorful cheats.
You literally could not be more wrong, it just isn’t possible.
@@bobey5022 So you havent had the fun with cheaters who kill you as the game starts with a 500m headshot of a bornheim? those sadly exist :c
Idk I'd personally be confused at first then see the distance and think that person's for sure cheating.
Thats such an insane shot I'd need to have seen it in person to believe it wasn't cheats lmao
He claims that hunt showdown is an easy game and then gets absolutely destroyed. Instead of admitting he was wrong he starts saying that the game is shit. To be fair, if I was this bad after playing this game for 180 hours I'd probably react the same way.
Bros is 2-3 star lobbies too😂
xDXD
After 2000 hrs I'm still very average. 180 hrs is nothing. So strange, coming from playing EFT, that he doesn't realize there might be an actual learning curve.
I didn't know who summit was, after seeing the video I now understand who Dr.Disrespect is copying.
Even took the words liquid diarrhea right over.. 😂😂😂
@@jarsquito be fair - he's dogshit in EFT too, despite being one of the early adopters. He "quit EFT" countless times.
Two things I want to say.
"It's not that much to learn."
"Bro, how'm I supposed to remember?"
Dang, he's really struggling with Hunt. Getting older and losing skills sucks but I swear, my kids are more mature. Hunt is a great game.
He could be getting better if he dropped the ego and just tried to learn
His go to: "if this was (game he's good at) yap yap yap"
When summit is bad at something, he calls it shit and uninstalls. I haven't watched him in years because he's such a negative person.
He would shit on you lmao. Bruh I’d shit on you and I have 100 hours in this Garbo game. Hunt is a “I’m bored, need a filler game” type of game. Stop the cap
@@quicktoreason2722 your reply has nothing to do with the comment. No one’s saying they’re better than summit. Also this video is calling out people just like you, people that can’t admit that a game isn’t bad it’s just not for them.
You say that but I have watched him on and off for a decade and can say he's also one of the most sincere streamers in regard to his passion for his fan base. Can he be toxic about games? sure but I think that applies to all of us, I play many games that I call dog sh*t several times a day I play them when I die or a bug happens etc.. lol Only difference in his case is he is a famous streamer and people expect him to not be a normal person, that's why he's always been so good is he doesn't care about what other thinks he just gives his honest opinion.
@@deazy513x It definitely doesn't apply to all of us lol. It happens to a lot of people sure, but most people can see when a game has something going for it even if it's not for them. The issue with him is he's not only shitting on it, he's not only shitting on people who enjoy it, but he's doing it REPEATEDLY. Normal people don't sit on a game they don't like just to "Get their money's worth and show everyone how shit it is", his complaints are literally just him crying about not knowing the mechanics and refusing to give up on it when it's clearly not for him. I don't love the game, I only enjoy it with friends (and even they can get annoying when all they do is cry that 5-6 stars are just "Sweats" any time they make a mistake), but just shitting on people for liking it and then doing it over and over when you should just give up is crazy. Someone telling you that the sky isn't blue isn't an issue, it could be that way for them for a multitude of reasons, but yelling and constantly bitching every 30 minutes that it's not blue when no one said anything to them about it would piss anyone off.
@@quicktoreason2722 this comment didn't age well lol
Dude looks like the type of guy that does vape tricks, has a monster sticker on his car, and still goes to highschool parties. No clue why people watch him.
one of the best comments ive read in a while. lol
spot on
So true 😂
Ok but are you not watching a guy with a 2d avatar that has a grand total of 4 sprites, and looks cringe as fuck?
because they are all teens in high school haha
At this very second, while watching this video, I have summit on my second monitor, as he plays Hunt Showdown.
Also, I've watched summit for 8 years, yeah, I'm a fan of him, but this shit was great. No hate from me brother. I love your content, W Spudy.
Well, at least you're aware of your terrible taste.
why should you hate? all in this video was constructive crticism on how his takes are straight up egotistical, delusional and unconsunstrictive, there was never a reason to hate, unless you're part time ret4rded
@@Largentina. This guy came over here in good faith and said something respectful to Spud and you have to insult him? Please think about being more respectful.
Fanning is supposed to increase accuracy?
Like where you manipulate the mechanics of the revolver to fire it as fast as physically possible?
Yeah, that tracks
I assume he was speaking of two different guns and we lack context.
He was trying to say that conversion pistol with fanning was more accurate than other pistols with fanning (which is mostly true) but he completely whiffed in the clip
@@vipernate99 Yup, one of many examples where Spud took things out of context to smear a big streamer's name for clicks.
@@ahiboy ?
@@ahiboy Dude, have you watched the video ? Summ1t has walked 50 yards away from the goal and waited for anybody kick, dribble or even slowly WAFT the ball in and you're seriously saying Suddy shouldn't have taken the shot...?
I cannot comprehend why anyone would want to watch a 40 year old act like an awful 8 year old. My kids are 19 now and have literally never acted like this.
@@ChrisIsError he's 37
That you know of.
@@ChrisIsError Still a grown ass man either way
He's clearly on the Spectrum what do expect from a non neurotypical brain? Are your kids on the Spectrum?
@@TheSkoklivko He looks 50 tho
It's usually hard to watch a 32 minute and 2 seconds long video on youtube unless it's very interesting and entertaining. Time flew by, well done.
Cheers
You said it man, I came for Dark and Darker, and stayed for his professionalism.
Dang you tiktok baby, attention span is that short?
@@sasuke-qn2yo to be fair, im not apart of the tik tok generation and most 30 min yt videos are not worth spending the time on
@@sasuke-qn2yo its called respecting your limited time
I had never seen the bong clip.
But as a dutchie, I always thought summit looked a bit stoned out of his eyes now and then.
I often ponder what lures people to the communities surrounding these salty, toxic and egotistical/narcissistic individuals, like Summitg, xQc, etc.
I can personally not stand it when a streamer constantly blames the game or gets salty about their own performance, and that feeling is only amplified when its older streamers. Man, have some self-respect and dignity and go out and touch some fucking grass.
Great video Spud. You've earned yourself a new subscriber.
Cheers brother
Ive never seen a a person with less interest in figuring out how to play.
Mate got pawned, coped, cried after losing and blamed the game. Classy. Nothing of value was lost when he uninstalled it.
@Krugmatik If you mean more new players, potential development and bigger community then also I don't think value was lost here. If people who watched summit, agreed with him then they are exactly the type of people that would disrupt the community and demand changes that would be terrible for the game, potentially destroying it's identity. Birds of feather flock together, the type of people he attracts mostly likes his approach and shares it. I don't say that they are not welcome, but ultimately if they have similar negative outlook then no good will come with them to the game, while if they disagree they might look into the game regardless of his opinion, but I find it hard to share enjoyment with people who cheer for downfall of someone's life's work.
Summit can't remember to revive because of his vase.
I'm neck deep in my vase every time I touch this game, and I always remember to revive. Summit is just dumb by default.
nah he just 'not playing with a full deck', and a few crayons short of a full box
content creators, and just gamers on the internet in general, are ALLERGIC to saying they don't like something. they always have to pretend to be objective and say "it's bad" when in reality it's just not for them
I don't like cs2, I think source is better. does that make me revolutionary? no it just means CS2 is dogshit and is a miracle people still play it imo. Summit had the same thing happen when he stopped streaming fortnite, he was just tired of having to act like he enjoyed something he didn't and I know how hard it is to fake your feelings and thoughts. something something I enjoy him but I think he's losing his touch as a content creator somewhat.
Yeah, this video is doing the same thing. He has always done this, always raged, about nearly every game. Idk if you guys have seen the summit reactions to tarkov bullshit, but this is nothing new. Idk feels like a pointless video. Summit can do and say whatever the fuck he wants, but most the video is about hunt. Good game, no doubt, but, bro, don't add summit into it if it isnt about summit
Correction: "It is a PVP extraction shooter with focus on stealth"...unless you are a trio in a 2-3 star lobby
"you like something im bad at? what kinda idiot likes something im bad at?"
🤣
hunt for me (besides shoddy matchmaking in oceania) is only as hard as you make it, you take higher skill weapons like the sparks, then you need higher skill to use them effectively, rock a good ol' winfield, romero, bow etc and you make the game easier for yourself within their effective ranges. the fact he never swapped to gear that suits his level of experience and always stayed on a gun that actively worked against his playstyle just shows to me how little he cared for actually trying to enjoy the game.
i'm a big old scout and awp man, i rocked the guns that worked well with the same playstyle when i started, bow, nitro, romero, crossbow, guns that all onetap at close range which made my awp aiming a transferable skill. maybe no one told him to swap off but with so many hunt players watching and devs even i'm very doubtlful
Edit: ah fuck you bring it up thank fuck, had to pause and comment this before i got to that bit
As someone who has played the game and understands the idea of it, I find it soo funny that this man baby can't understand anything past point-shoot and sit still is grand. I also don't understand how people can watch someone who complains like that.
That original deus ex score never fails to give me the goosebumps lol
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Just finished the video, it amazes me how you can put out such consistently quality videos of this length so consistently. I haven’t watched summit or played hunt in years but I was still engaged the whole 32 minutes. Cheers
Cheers dude
Summit:'The game is so shallow and easy'
Chat:'How come you suck so much then?'
Summit:'Unintelligible rambling turned screeching'
I found out a long time ago that Summit jumps on games, plays poorly, and treats the player base poorly when they try to help.
Never been sure if it's just engagement farming via viewer rage or self ego rage, thinking he's a master of every game because he is pro at some.
Either way, this video does a great job of pointing out issues with his claims.
Cheers, I genuinely don't hate the guy. I just felt compelled to defend a really good game in a comical way after his outrage towards it.
summit cries every night on stream i think its just part of the gig now. just last night he was screaming about Squad and that he can't see who the enemies are lol
I think in a way, he's just annoyed he's got his whole lifestyle and money locked into streaming. Dude needs to take a break or reconsider how long he wants to continue doing this for.
People with "normal" jobs don't even complain this much.
@@slomnimbro he could retire and sell gamer supps tomorrow. He enjoys being a face of twitch otherwise he'd leave
It's just a part of having ADHD. Makes it worst that he doesn't know he has it.
"I can't remember to use it!" Sounds like memory loss. Tots and pears.
Summit bothered me so much because in Sea of Thieves there was a time where he was arguably the biggest streamer. He had a LOT of influence in the community during a time the game was fairly dead. There was a lack of content and the whole internet was trashing SoT for being unfinished alpha game, not undeserved but I still enjoyed the game and saw potential. An issue that has always been controversial is something called "double gunning" where you animation cancel to fire two shots at once and basically one shot people in a game without headshots. It was kind of a cheesy exploit in my opinion but the hardcore community got very used to it because there was just nothing else to do in the game or focus on tbh. Anyway, the devs removed it by forcing pirates to run sword and gun, no more gun and gun. Summit cried and moaned and said the game was terrible and demanded it be changed back, he had enough power it really hurt the game at the time. The devs eventually caved and brought it back and honestly.... I feel the game is worse for it and always has been. I don't enjoy the new content or the game as a whole because of this one mechanic. I'm not hating on people who use it or try to master it but I just felt like it ruined a lot of what the game was. The pirate fantasy was thrown out the window to make it some silly paintball game. I really wish they had let us keep sword+gun and just added headshots if they wanted to make aim skill be more of a thing. Anyway, sort of a long rant but I lost respect for summit doing that and basically holding the game's community hostage saying "I won't play this terrible game until you bring back the only thing *I* like" - Honestly if the hunt showdown devs tell him to shove off good for them. Summit is just a crybaby in my eyes.
Glad these devs knew what was good for their community rather than some egotistical man child’s demands
I also stopped playing SoT because the sprint cancel, just not really fun being forced into eye of reach and pistol or else you loss against the sweatiest brigs, and this is coming from someone who can do it but it's just tedious and not really fun
Didn't know there was a point it wasn't in the game though, I'm sad to not have experienced that. I came very late into the game though, season 7 I believe
@@ahairylobster8524 Don't get me wrong it's a lot of fun if you're into this style of game and there's still a lot of good to experience there.. I just think the very top end of the meta is a bit frustrating like your earlier comment stated. I played with a crew who weren't FPS gods and while I could animation cancel and aim just fine, they could not and when the game was about swordplay they enjoyed it much more. They learned to use their tactics and movement, blocking and hopping until they were also hitting some crazy pistol flick shots surprising themselves. Though they all felt it was unfair and unfun to engage with double gunning spawncamping crews. The exploits ranged from silent boarding, holding block as you get on ladder to just swiping at spots for a hit confirm sound to be ready for where people spawn to instant kill them. The game is cool but when you optimize the fun out of it, it becomes a little toxic to say the least.
The sword has never been forced though and I don't remember it happening like that at all, It is obviously possible that I just missed it, not playing for a bit. But I have been playing the game on and off since week 1 and was pretty deep in the whole doublegunning tdm stuff. I remember the progression as essentially this:
- When the game launched you could instantly doublegun without any animation cancelling just by switching guns, it was during this meta summit played a lot and got big in the game.
- To nerf this, the devs added a delay when swapping guns, this delay though felt extremely clunky, because it would play literally every time the gun was brought up, which happens literally every time you move around. So this nerf also affected people who weren't doublegunning. Many people complained, including summit.
- The devs changed the delay so that it would only play the first time you bring the gun out and not after sprinting/moving around. This created the animation cancelling that you are referencing in your comment, where it was possible to cancel the delay by quickly sprinting in between gun swapping, making it possible to shoot 2 shots instantly again.
- About 1.5 years ago they nerfed it again by hardcoding the delay to happen after you shoot a bullet, making it impossible to circumvent, it is now literally not possible to shoot 2 shots instantly like you used to (unless you have cheats). During this you could still kind of sprint cancel though, it just wasn't as fast as it used to be.
- They then nerfed it even further, making sprint cancelling not possible at all, which is the current state of the game, there is no way to circumvent the delay in any way without cheats.
If you have any evidence of sword ever being forced(I'm 99% sure it wasn't) I would legitimately like to see it, as I said I have played SoT on and off since it came out, and was watching a lot of summit back then and I have literally never heard about it.
I started dying when the worms came up on screen lmao 8:50
@24:07 that WAS a good one 😂 Tarkov is a shell of what it used to be. Maybe not on his computer, but i feel like my frames have been cut in half by the addition of the flea market, however long ago that was. Pair that with incredibly poor audio occlusion and you have the recipe for a bad time
if tarkov is a shell then what the hell is hunt? this game has fallen into the actual depths of hell. years of no content, barely different events throughout the year, they added heavy rain at least and a boat load of skins every second week to buy. tarkov went to shit with monetisation recently but at least the game adds content. talk about playerbase too, sheesh hunt has lost half its playerbase in the last 2 months and has only been bleeding players.
this game was good once upon a time. it has had severe balance issues for a long time and still has severe balance issues but the biggest issue is that the game truly has no purpose. kill the lobby and thats the game, nothing special. nothing different. the same thing every game where the only variance is how many people die in the first 4 minutes.
tarkov was good once upon a time too. that game is in a better state now than it has ever been in the past. ever.
one of these games is run by a dev team that is at least trying to push the life of their game.
@@kregman6928 Uhhh... Hunt constantly adds new guns, and experiments with new and event perks and adds new weather constantly. We recently got a new boss, and a new map has been teased since before your comment. DeSalle came out in the last 2 years as well. Hunt definitely gets tons of new content outside of dlc and cosmetics. I don't know what you've been doing or seeing, but you're so wrong it's not even funny. And hunt lost it's playerbase rn because no new event and people are gathering excitement for the engine update that's coming in a month or so.
Tarkov mostly just gets guns and various balance tweaks, and poorly optimized maps once in a blue moon. The mp7 is still the strongest meta gun, and that hasn't changed in years.
Honestly, what are you yapping about? It's about as far removed from reality as it gets.
EDIT - also you're saying the "loop" of hunt is boring and bland, but it's not like Tarkov's is any better. You go in, kill the lobby, that's the game - from then on you watch for scavs and loot, if you're even gonna loot. Many people just go in for pvp once they're rich enough. You really don't have a point to make, do ya?
@@stankobarabata2406 it took hunt multiple years to add a bad map to their game. it took them multiple years to add a bad boss to their game. it took them multiple years to introduce weather that everyone hated and still does hate. the only good thing about the weather is that it makes games more interesting for the first time you experience it then the game goes straight back to being the same exact cycle over and over.
the new map might be good, hopefully its better than that last hunk of junk they added. hopefully the new boss is better than scrapbeak and isnt irrelevant to gameplay like the alligator is.
you literally strengthen my point about how the game is bleeding players. all they had to do was introduce a new map earlier or an actual event instead of collect cockroaches and punch scarecrows for the 8th time in a row. a different gamemode to keep the loop interesting. literally anything other than what the devs did, which was nothing. for multiple years. they did literally nothing to attract new players or to keep a large playerbase for years. the only people still playing this game are people that find tarkov too stressful and die hard fans. which isnt a bad thing on its own but the devs needed to do more to keep players coming back.
they changed ammo and stuff which was interesting until you realise you use the one absolutely busted thing or its just irrelevant completely. same thing as the perks. just get the self revive and everything else doesnt matter anyways. I havent played in a few months so maybe they added more perks but perks and guns dont bring people back to the game or keep people playing the game.
tarkov is very clear with content addition and do it consistently throughout the year. tarkov in the last year has added more content than hunt has added in the last 3 years. which is why people keep coming back to tarkov. the gameplay loop alone keeps people interested in the game and there is so much you can do within that gameplay loop that your content will last for literal years if youre into that kind of thing. the quests alone keep people coming back. hunt has no such thing in the game, weekly challenges sure, kill armoured dude 10 times for the 84th week in a row. the game lacks anything in its core loop that can keep peoples attention.
the ai is irrelevant to the game, bosses only exist as a hotspot for pvp and thats the game. go in, kill 8 people, go out. that is all the game has. you can say that is all tarkov has but thats just blatantly dishonest.
@@kregman6928 it didn't really take them years to add a new map. Hunt only ever started picking up once events became a thing, before that yea the game was pretty obscure. But saying "it took them years" when 1. it didn't take that much, as I said Tarkov took twice as long to add a single new thing that wasn't a piece of gear or another bland one shot boss that's no different to code than a Scav and 2. Their dev team is pretty small. Like, in the tens, not even twenties of people I think. It's normal they can't churn out content like it's fortnite or PuBG.
And again, the game has more players than it ever had recently, you're again thinking about player bleeding and I keep telling you - that is because people play on events, and there hasn't been an event for over a month BECAUSE THEY ARE WORKING ON THE ENGINE UPDATE. And again, you're saying multiple years, but they're constantly adding guns and effects, and working on bosses/maps meanwhile and keeping us up to date, and now the engine update. In comparison Tarkov barely got a new map a year ago, and it was unoptimized for several months. With a studio that's prolly several times bigger than Crytek's Hunt division.
And clearly guns and stuff keep people in the game, because Hunt's playerbase has only been growing in numbers despite dips in between events. Used to be this game had barely 5k people in it back in the day. Empty lobbies everywhere to the point where you were playing a pve game half the time because there's not a single other team on the map. Now it's peaking anywhere between 20k to 40k players on event times, especially on hyped stuff.
The game has problems. I am one of the more pessimistic people about it, in truth, my friends are much more fanatical towards it than I am. Desync used to drive me insane, I hate many guns' sights (hence why I primarily use the Drilling because it's got nice clear sights), I hate certain people's dumb playstyles that Crytek encourages and praises like trappers and bushcampers. I hate many balance things - including the ammo you mentioned, I hate how special ammo are basically required to play the game now unless it's long ammo guns.. I dunno what you hate about Desalle though, mind elaborating on that? I'm just curious.
Anyway, what I'm trying to say is, I'm calling you out because you're blatantly spouting half-truths and straight up lies. I dunno why you're doing that though.
Great vid spuddy! It's easier to get tilted in the hardcore shooters and I can understand his frustration from an emotional level.
But his rage was very misguided and he was being stubborn as hell about it.
i see why i have never watched summit before
you watch spud hunter though..
@@johnwayne4911 spud actually makes content my guy, summit seems to complain a lot and just clip farm
@@reaversal5728 "content" .... you understand this is all a waste of time right?
@@johnwayne4911 I guess. But if it's a waste of time why are you still replying
@@johnwayne4911most brain dead take lmao found the 1g fanboy
This is How You Don't Play: Hunt: Showdown
Hahaha, exactly, it's DSP bad
As someone who find (solo) necro problematic in a lot of ways, there is clearly a reluctancy from sumsum to take in and adapt to new information.
Best way I explain the burn body meta is that (vs. teams) when a body goes down, that becomes the the control point of the fight.
You want to contest the body by burning or reviving/choking it and the current event that gives everyone the ability revive burned out Hunters, shows how important the perma-death from burning is, as right now most fights play out with the last teammate running away and waiting to come back to red-skull revive his burned team-mates.
That said, while the new tutorial did some good, there NEEDS to be an more in-depth, in-game tutorial about revives and necro.
Even if it is just "Hey you completed the two tutorials, here is a short 3 min video about the difference between solo and team play".
I've played the game since early access and ever since the introduction of solo necro I've seen a spike of discord/reddit posts from new players asking about "how did this guy come back up after I killed him? I thought this was a perma-death game" and to be expected, when you explain about necro, they usually go "well that is kinda bs!".
Because one of the first thing people know about hunt is "you go down, you are out".
he got 6 million followers and acts like a kid, being 40yo, must be bots
Or his literally one of the first most succesful FPS streamers on Twitch, eh.
@@nathanmitchell7961 And now makes videos trolling 10yr olds (SoT). Imagine playing Hunt like its CS and expecting it to go well? Must suck to find a game that you can't play like every other FPS and be too old and set in your ways to change
@@CyberGenesis1 Stay mad man because nothings gonna change at the end of the day. The trolling 10 year olds is hilarious lol.
@@nathanmitchell7961 Mad? I'm not the one destroying my equipment because i got poopoo'd on. The entire point of all of this was that the man has nothing to prove to anyone after more than a decade - but still playing like a 16yr old that's never grown up throwing a tantrum because the world isn't bowing to him
@@CyberGenesis1 Classic cherrypicking, breaks his monitor one time and you're actually unironically using it as a slight when he hasnt broken any other equipment before or after that day.
I dont disagree his acting like a sad loser but it doesnt mean im not going to call out the pressed RUclips commenter getting mad over it, its funny to know you're biggest enemy is a streamer that roasted your clunky game.
If he was roasting a game you hate, you'd be celbrating his rage on all fronts, its just fake outrage.
Feel a bit bad for him running into one of the most toxic groups in the game at his skill level, no chance at competing there with the no-lifers really with where he's at. He doesn't understand the game to the point where he can really criticize the more nuanced flaws of the game, so while I still find his lack of professionalism wrong, I can somewhat empathize with his frustrations. For reference, I'm sitting at around 3k hours, so I do have an inkling of what I'm talking about in regards to the games flaws--- overly simplistic MMR system, poor/inadequate in-game moderation of behavior and cheating, a particular proneness of the game to exploits and their prevalence (configs, 3rd party software, various de-rendering exploits, the new no platform account, along with some balancing issues.) I've replicated several of these exploits easily. Ethically so, mind you. I make sure to get no kills and conc bomb myself immediately after replicating to get footage to show to crytek privately, and never share how to do them. I've also been in discord channels/servers with some of the less-than-honest clans, so I can verify that many members of said clans do regularly abuse exploits and various 3rd party software, along other unfair advantages to manipulate the game--- although they generally fall just short of straight-up 3rd party hacks, or at least they don't openly brag about them as much and try to conceal them. I'm rarely one to call hacks, but I do know the game well enough to know them when I see them, particularly in the time I've spent studying cheaters through spectating, the aforementioned discord servers, and heart-to-heart discussions with former members of various clan-members of hunt (although some clans are very strictly against cheating, and arguably enforce those standards better than crytek itself.) I'd be happy to share clips and recordings I've gathered anytime if you'd like to use them, pretty much unconditionally, if you'd like to discuss the matter in a video. Great work as always! @TheSpudHunter
the title: "summit1g has gone too far"
spud: "this is not a vid to take a hit at the streamer"
Frankuhji's comment went too far (shocked face thumbnail).
I like how he goes on tangents when hes in a bad mood, and often gets into a bad mood when he isnt the best at the game hes playing.
people just seem to love haters and love to hate. if such a hater can get so much fame. was summit1g always this way? idk, but the energy is cringe beyond belief. nyeeeaaaah my braaaaiiin!
The best thing to come out of this situation is I found your channel and will now consume all it's content.
Cheers dude, I'll try and keep up the videos
Geez. Summit got some real "old man yelling at clouds" energy with this one. How embarrassing.
I didn't realize you were being sarcastic with the "not a personal attack" thing until like 28:26, so when you started completely dogging on him I lost it haha. Great video, I've always hated these kinds of players in competetive games because they are consistently the most vocal members of a community despite not remotely knowing what they're talking about. I'm honestly impressed this guy manages to keep a stable viewer base if this is how he acts all the time. It would just make me sad to watch this, if nothing else.
13:20 this one clip just pissed me off on a extreme level lmao
how can he even be a streamer it’s insane 😭
Especially since it's solid advice and not intuitive from playing other games.
@@odintexas4064yeah no kidding, proof that streaming is literally just the lottery
@@odintexas4064 Because there more to Summits success than one clip.
@@odintexas4064he's not a bad dude and quite entertaining. He just completely showed his azz over Hunt and refused to accept it was a him issue. Very embarrassing!
14:52 one of the things I love about Hunt is sometimes I feel like I’m playing a strategy game. I know I can put that downed solo between myself and the incoming enemy and pit them against one another. So often I have a chance to take a shot, but I whisper to myself “go fourth my minions, sew chaos so I may ascend upon the ladder it creates”. I also know that these units I have set upon my enemy are volatile and I often must put them down myself after leveraging them. Some people just don’t have the brain for it, they just want PURE twitch hand eye skill. That’s fine if that’s what you like but don’t disparage a game because it’s more strategy oriented.
The Sopranos clip at the end 🤣🤣🤣
I agree with most of this, though I do have one thing to mention:
Crytek as a company are kinda shady. Ignoring some back end behind the scenes stuff that raises a lot of red flags, the CMs are *constantly* showing their asses and being toxic toward the community, downplaying problems with the game and playing damage control. They're very "corporate", yet super unprofessional all the same time. Love the game, have loved it for the last 2 years going strong, and I don't see it changing, but Crytek as a company aren't all that great.
Also your stream clips are absolutely unhinged and I adore the energy, great juxtaposition to your calm voiceover
+1
nobody saying the game is perfect, most people are just pissed he completely trashed the game beause he refuses to actually learn any of the mechanics and expects he can just run and gun like 90% of shooters out there
@@ghostrunner2138 Did you reply to the wrong person? I never said any thing about that
Yeah it was so painful to see the dude playing the game.
He should just stick to his own pond.
What pond is that? He’s 40 and washed af lol, Tarkov maybe?
8:20 he even skipped the literal reminder that he had necro LOL
I agree that Necromancy could be adjusted bc it's really annoying that you NEED to camp a body for like 40-60 seconds just bc a perk EXISTS, slowing you down massively if you want to confirm the kill, or keeping you in an area to be third partied. Other than that, Hunt is genuinely one of the best FPS games on the market purely from hitbox, servers/hit registration and the absolute BEST audio in an FPS game to-date, all three being things almost every other big name FPS gets wrong.
I really can't think of things I dislike about Hunt Showdown, there are things that annoy me, but the core game is just so well polished compared to something like Apex Legends, obviously not the best comparison but the audio, servers/hit reg and hitboxes in that game are ABYSMAL in comparison, and I'm someone who absolutely loves Apex.
bro you did NOT just claim servers/hit registration as a POSITIVE thing in Hunt Showdown lmao, easily the worst part of this game
@@metalcobraI agree with your comment, I quit due to kill-trades happening in close quarters. If you are shooting say, at the next building across the street, hitreg can feel great. But inside a building, when I prefire a shotgunblast at a spot I know you are at, for me to shoot, you to fall over dead, and then I fall over dead like 300ms later, it just feels SO. BAD.
I wouldn't mind if I played normal guns, but I like to play solo vs squads, and if I can make it into your compound with a shotgun I think I have a fighting chance. But falling over dead to a guy who pulled out his sawed off Romero that I didn't hear fire on my client before he's BEEN dead for a few hundred ms, it just feels so so wrong :(
Most of his points are valid though :) the audio is amazing, hotboxes feel right (if not a little overinflated compared to the model tbh), game runs great and feels great to shoot. But man, the net code needs help (only if you are a piece of trash shotgun user like me tho 😢)
@@metalcobra my comparison was Apex Legends audio, servers/hit reg and hitboxes to Hunt Showdown's.
no matter how much you dislike Hunt's game servers and hit reg, it's a fact that it's just 100% better than Apex's, the game that makes 2000x more financially and has 20x the playerbase. that's pretty impressive IMO
The dog dodging fists having better fighting skills than the human npcs while being able to one shot is an insane dog mob.
I love when the court jester forgets he’s here for our entertainment.
Underappreciated comment.
To get more tilted in hunt then in tarkov is rly wild to me 😅
He banned me years ago in PUBG alpha test because I used the PJSalt emote. Then 100s of his cronies spam DM'd me slurs he's been like this for years.
Deserved
Man, it's sad to see somebody who has such a big following just blindly trash a hard working dev team.
He's shown himself to be detached from reality as of recent. The guy could do with remembering that he's nearer to 50 than 20.
Whats the music playing at 23:30? Sounds super familiar and I cant remember where its from.
I bursted in tears of laugh of that hamster gif jesus, love you Spuddy
Cheers moite
I love how crytek even put a window telling you, "if u press spectare u cant revive anymore" for cases like this, but instead of reading the window hes just derp instaclick no
14:56 just fucking ended me LOOOL . The goddamn hamster
I died when i saw him get cliped by a bow from like 60m 😂😂😂
The hamster wasn't harmed
Necro needs another look i think. Like not being able to rez when you burn. At that point you are gonna die already, it just stalls the other player/s.
Or if we want some skill behind it, make it that you keep burning when you stand up and you still keep burning when you die (only as solo of course).
Only issue I take with this video is that the extract camping thing was a one off collab with a streamer known for it (stankrat) and not his usual strategy. I feel like you probably knew that since you had to specifically look for that clip. Either way, it strikes me as weird to then mention it again later as a jab in the outro as if its his go to way of playing. Other than that, good video and I agree he doesn't represent himself professionally a lot of the time.
Right there with ya. Spud is either being purposely petty or ignorant.
I first saw Summit1g's stream about 10 years, along with guys like Chocotaco, Halifax, Doctor Disrespect, etc. And to this day, I have no idea what the appeal of Summit is. He doesn't even really rage, he just whines. It's baffling.
Summit is the poster child for group of people who played games that gave them aim assist or other helping hands along the way. It's like if he isn't shooting at someone down a six foot wide tunnel it's too hard. Like "I lit a stick of dynamite, held it, and then it exploded, this game sucks" - what the actual hell.
Hey Spuddy! Your passion is an art of itself, and its been a pleasure experiencing it. You are a real one, and I look forward to every video. You've got an infectious way of making a point funny, and logical.. and dude I fuckin love it!
came to your channel for dnd content, watched this entire video instead. very well put together.
And this is why we love you spud at least when you get mad you thoroughly explain it, examine what you couldve done, & looked at it objectively
I didn't know Phil lost weight
Spuddy unintentionally unearthed the biggest internet weirdos. A few people in the comments section commenting like 15 times with "SUMMIT GOOD, SPUD BAD" in multiple variations. Great vid, Spud. I know you know this because you're not new to the internet, but don't let the weirdos bother you. 💪
Cheers brudda, my next video will be debunking if the Earth is flat or round.
@@TheSpudHunter won't be able to call it unintentional for that one 😅
He is just a regular guy with anger issues that play games, i guess people like to see him get angry and be honest with his very adult feelings.
Most people confuse ADHD with having anger issues. When in fact they aren't angry at all. Controlling Emotions is very hard. Thinking that he's a neurotypical person is the first mistake.
'How do you do, fellow gamers?'
i have 1350 hours in hunt and i am still learning new things. this game is super simple on the surface but man.... it goes deep.
He's not actually super wrong about the game not being super complicated. It's just unique, and has unique things to learn in order to well. If he just put in the time to learn, I'm confident he'd be pretty good actually, but he didn't and probably just because he didn't really like the game much to start. It probably wasn't something that interested him and that's why he didn't give it a fair shake. That and a tremendous ego, but yeah. Honestly, it would've been fine if he just admitted that he didn't understand the game and didn't care for it enough to want to learn how to play better. That's all.
Agreed. I even saw his perspective on baby sitting kills and I think the time should be halved. This is a great game and I wanted to defend crytek.
Note his remark about not being able to remember all the game mechanics. He's no longer a kid who is capable of following teacher instructions about how to learn and perform tasks. As an adult, he needs to sit down and systematically study in order to avoid being frustrated. But without researching and studying ahead of time, he simply wasted those two days of gameplay, rather than give himself the fundamentals to really enjoy the game experience.
I would argue that most games aren’t complicated at all.
It’s the way different mechanics interact with eachother and keeping up with it all as shit hits the fan. That goes for every FPS in existence.
But saying it’s not a complicated game while being actively fucked by other players really puts in perspective that maybe he should shut his mouth and learn. He clearly doesn’t have the game figured out.
I mean i kinda understand him but it's his boiling blood talking and not himself, I absolutely LOVE hunt i played it for about a year got 400+ hours in it but when i managed to consistently stay on 5 to 6 star the game just gets so tedious i can't bring myself to play it anymore, In my recent hours when i experienced that situation where you are stuck and there is nothing but a long deadzone field all around you and multiple snipers i just literally alt tab and open runescape and wait until i hear footsteps... It's the opposite of fun once extracting doesn't feel the same anymore and when you play against people who know how you are supposed to play this game.
I watch summit1g only cuz my friend introduced me to him. I love Dark and Darker, played it way less than Escape from Tarkov but I love DnD more just cuz its different and the devs work quicker and deal with the bans better than bsg imo.
To see Summit complain about Hunt: Showdown, is actually mind boggling because im wondering if thats what caused DnD to (edit) "not" pick up even harder and faster in the past. Idk when he played DnD but I imagine his "OPINION" affected many people to not trying the game. I DONT PLAY HUNT NOR LIKE IT, but i do think fundamentally as a genre and separate game mechanics and style its great. cowboy western olden age mystery horror extraction make ur bullets count type game in my own words.
great vid Spuddy
DnD is Dungeons and Dragons.
DaD is Dark and Darker.
the removel of DaD from steam before it was even out killed it.
@@AkkirOrihsam That's not what remotely killed it.. It's IMs incompetence as developers.
My only problem with Hunt is that it feels overtuned on the amount of AI and sound traps, sometimes to a degree it feels like the main star of a match, I've been on either end of that a lot of times actually (my stealthy approach being ruined by a nearby grunt, a enemy team trying to run away then getting third partied by hellhounds themselves, locations I NEED to get to but are completely surrounded by crows and/or 3 Hives, and so on).
If Crytek could just tone it down a bit, Hunt would be GOLDEN in my eyes.
Even with a giant red stop sign he still manages to kill himself. 2:58
"Nah brah, this clip is out of context and clearly your comment is because you're jealous".
@@TheSpudHunter I wish I was a good as Summ1t. So cool and relatable.
The one that was on his screen for all of 0.2s? Yeah, Summit's bad.
Hunt Showdown is an amazing game, I understand that I am also bias towards the game as it has been my main game since I got into the last close alpha test before steam early access. It's also not a game for everyone as I have had most of my friends on steam try the game and less than half of them still play it or stayed with it to really learn and enjoy the game. The game has a lot of moving parts and getting use to Hunt's game play is a huge learning curve. Heck just navigating the UI menu is hard enough on it's own let alone learning how to deal with players and the game's AI. But it very fun and rewarding if you can take the time to learn and start to see improvement in your play. I have little over 3k hours clocked since starting the game nearly 6 years ago.
It's awful bro. And scammy.
It's Region locked bullshit. But not clearly stated or labeled as such.
Anyone who defends region locked games needs to take a fucking hike.
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I don't disagree with pretty much any point about how he acted playing hunt but repeatedly saying "this isn't a hit piece" and then saying things like he's in his 30's still acting like a teenager, he has no self respect, he has bad aim, etc doesn't make sense to me. I'm not even a summit fan but saying "This isn't a personal attack" and them flaming him for 30 minutes is what rubbed me the wrong way. Love your content spuddy just my 2 cents on an otherwise very entertaining video!
Usually a "hit piece" contains manipulations and lies. Everything was streamed and uploaded by sum sum and his team. Frankly it's embarrassing and I'm surprised he streamed it at all without doing like every other content creator does and practice offline to learn the game. This merely is a showcasing of his cl0wnish cringy behavior, pointing out he has millions of smoothbrained followers, and explaining he has a responsibility to not turn his sheep followers into a cancel mob because he refuses to learn a game and stay bad at it.
@@ftniceberg874 that’s fair about the term hit piece, and agreed he was acting way out of line
@@ftniceberg874 Providing info (clips) out of context is manipulation and lying by omission.
intriguing that he rage quit at a dolch and not a long ammo sniper
I'm literally shaking rn. I've never seen Harry that distressed before. Poor lad.
Was an intense video
"you gotta confirm the kill and, burn them."
so true bestie, i tell myself the same thing every morning ✨
Hunt is a great game but at the end of the day, players having up to FIVE LIVES as solo is incredibly stupid.
That you fault for allowing them to have 5 lives. Solos are only a problem for bad players
@@Roberta-yf4ge bullets can go long distances. Yoi are dumb
There's no way he's still in his thirties...
Well he does look mid 40'ies.
Summit is not the type of guy I like. I find him annoying at times, so I don't watch him. But, dedicating a 30 minute video to a fellow content creator, constantly complaining about him, and then sprinkling in the occasional "this isn't a hitpiece", is arguable at least as unprofessional as the behavior you accuse Summit of. If you're calling a guy out, at least have the balls to own up to it. Most actual Crytek partners are themselves complaining about the same shit Summit is, and rightfully so. Some redeeming factor is that you're at least punching up.
If it’s lost on you, that preemptive “This isn’t a hit piece” bit is purely satire.
Anywho, Summit is a clear fucking manchild, he doesn’t play the game, and while Crytek content creators have valid reasons to be judging the game, that does not excuse Summit’s pathetic behavior and refusal to learn the game he’s playing while actively shitting on.
Professionalism is a dead word in the influencer world. The difference between the two is that Spud here is 100% correct, and Summit is a fucking nunce.
Ego too big, gliding off his smoothbrain when tilted.
I've got 2k hours on this game and i will without a doubt say the while the game design might be nice and the game itself was nice, the devs are making terrible decisions and the state of the game is terrible, they couldnt even patch a butcher melee bug for years, and then in the end said that it wasnt a bug, and later on fixed it(makes no sense, they just proved us right), also where is the context to the clip at 5 minutes, its just cut out, i can get a lot of out of context's clips of anyone while they're streaming and make them look bad, , just like ppl did with Andrew Tate, "burning and necro make the game less campi" ?, unless ur in like 4* elo every match u queue into, ppl will and do stand above the body with a shotgun waiting for it to be revived, or just sit in a corner closest to an entrance and camp there with a shotgun, we must have played a different game cos im yet to experience a " less campi" hunt showdown experience, although i definitely agree with ur takes on Summit, bro took it way to far all bcs he sucks at the game, u cannot say "this game isnt as hard as u think it is" and then proceed to get destroyed every match, why isnt my guy wiping lobby's then, but instead complaining 24/7 and not understanding that u cant play this game how u like, bro has 6hours in the game and expects to be as good at it as he is in tarkov, while in that game he has over thousands of hours, should of rolled clips of his first few hours on tarkov lmao, i mean tarkov is superior to hunt showdown, there is no discussion there(if ur speaking numbers), all in all i somewhat agree with ur takes on summit and the game hunt showdown, but i've been trough ups and downs of hunt showdown and the bs of it and devs not listening to a single thing we tell them that is wrong and never patching things that are broken and or bugs for years on, but i've stopped to play the game since i stopped liking it and the changes that were coming in and out werent to my liking, now instead i play ranger solo in GC and have a wonderful time(not really), good video though.
Yep completely agree with this comment. Summit overreacted and talked trash about Hunt. But the devs of this game... they anger me very much. There is so much potential for Hunt that the devs won't use instead making DLCs and Battlepasses.
@@juliangds Events became a monthly occurence, and it used to be seasonal
@@MoonSteppah Events are nice and I like the new weapons, tools and perks that come with them but imo the game could be so much more. Events have not that of an impact on the gameplay loop and I wish they would bring more changes to the core game mechanics
@@juliangds yeah, like a dynamic timer so ppl dont sit around in 1 spot for 40 minutes, would be nice...smh
@@MoonSteppah recently me and a friend were doing katana only games where we only had the one weapon equipped until we killed a group and stole their guns.
We kill a boss, banish, and finish the banish. Pick up dark sight and find a trio camping us with snipers. There werent many exits or ways around a field battle with only katanas and a single derringer, so we waited.
They took so long to advance that i got up from my desk, went to the bathroom, went upstairs for a glass of water and by the time i wrapped back around to my room they had only then reached the edge of the compound.
he did the exact same thing to "Predecessor" the other day after getting smacked.
Skill issues.
New game, what happened?
@TheSpudHunter I didn't watch that stream from the start, nor did I stay for long as it looked like he was about to have another gamer melt-down.
If you want to dive deeper into it, it seems like Pinzo ("famous" Predecessor player) also spoke about similar "C"ory.
Check the video: Pinzo made Summit1g hate predecessor (TPQ8WbWOh5w)
BTW: YES! totally new game, you should hop on it. Also Summit keeps hitting a character (Grey stone) during his ultimate, where he literally regains HP if you attack.
It's hilarious how "League of Legends" or other top-down MOBA players think they can jump onto this game and first round be world champions.
You're a Legend Spud.
I think most of us are pretty tired of summit's attitude towards most things really. The games he attempts to play, the followers he treats like shit, and the devs he speaks to without even the bare minimum amount of professionalism.
It has been a pleasure watching all of your content and popping in to the streams Spuddy. Thank you so much for bringing respect, hard work, and professionalism to the platforms. It isn't common. I think if we had more like you the internet might break, but I feel like you respect the value of my time, and additionally your own.
I've been working on creating a cozy place for myself in Hunt Showdown. And I will be honest, THE AVERAGE PLAYER IS STILL BETTER THAN ME. And that's okay. This is due to me not having a working knowledge of few a things and the game having a lot of nuance that is necessary to understanding and finetuning your skill. I have enjoyed the game more than most other pvp extraction shooters, I cannot recommend it enough. The audio actually makes sense, solos are not under or overpowered, and I'm not literally feeding and watering my PMC like a fucking Tamagotchi.
Hey Summit -> You wanna elaborate on how feeding a digital avatar while you camp extracts like you always have is more skill intensive than having a working knowledge of audio ques and a way to solve problems in real time when you're out of position, go ahead.........I'll wait.😂
This seems to be what his attitude towards Dark and Darker is turning to right now. Very adorable
Definitely hits the nail on the head about professionalism with someone of his stature on the platform and how his response was anything but professional. Well put together!
Cheers brudda
fantastic vid. i can already see him reacting to it on stream and going nuclear
One would hope that a video like this might actually make a difference in how streamers view professionalism in their own careers. I think you made some fair points, and I share your love for this game, but I think that there are serious issues in the Hunt community that are almost never properly addressed.
I would say the biggest issue in Hunt Showdown currently is the plague of racist and toxic [KKK]lans in the 5-6 star range of the game. Depending on how long you've been around, you are probably aware of them yourself. These Klans pride themselves on doing their absolute best at making the game a miserable and unsportsmanlike experience for others. Every time I play this game I am guaranteed to run into the same groups of players who use exploits and straight up cheats, who never miss an opportunity to use racial slurs and bigotry. You might not realize that in this very video you clipped summit getting stream sniped by one of said Klans, as this is pretty common behavior for them (They proudly do this and upload proof to discord and their youtube). At 20:15 this is a member of one of the hate Klans who is exploiting a feature of the game to artificially lower his rank and get placed in lobbies where he can abuse players of lower skill levels, in this case to snipe summits MMR range of matches. I wish Crytek would actually do something about these kinds of people in the community, but despite uploading countless recordings of these guys being toxic, racist and just crapping all over the community guidelines in general, they have been playing unrestricted for years. I don't know if a documentary about these Klans would lead to proper change, but its something I wouldn't mind helping with if its a project you were willing to try.
In any case, I appreciate the content! Keep it up!
I'll never understand what people see in some of these mega streamers.
Have a few issues with this video:
Professional;
"A professional gamer plays video games full time and competes in tournaments in order to win prizes. Pro gamers are also paid by sponsors or advertisers when they play, and sometimes they're part of a team of players where they earn money as well"
Summit WAS a professional gamer, he just streams playing games he wants to play now, this is NOT the same thing. If he was acting this way when he was a professional gamer then this would be a air argument but his not. His been spammed day in day out with messages "Play Hunt, Play Hunt, Play Hunt! contaminating his expectations. Do we really hold any other streamer to this unrealistic colloquial use of the word "professional"?
Also at 14:23 you said Summit is at fault for playing it like Halo but at the start of the video you said you play it like a deathmatch? Like is the only dfference here, that you dont outwardly complain about it?
25:07 This is pretty odd that you chose the one stream were he was playing with the RatofTarkov who has an entire channel dedicated to running the rattiest spots on all maps, this was the one stream he wanted to show Summit the places he camps at. There are thousands of streams of Summit playing Tarkov at a pretty high level but you specfically chose this one, seems very odd to me.
I also remember you doing a video very similar in tone to Summits reaction in Tarkov where you constantly complained about loosing your gear and the games mechanics, which i find comparative to the issues you have with Summit, could you explain how this is different?
I think the rest of the video is very good.
My issue with summit is just I wish he just could say that something isn't for him or that he isn't good at, "insert type of gameplay here" so he doesn't find it enjoyable. Like there is nothing wrong with that. Not a single person is god like or even good at every type of game.
Like me, personally I stay away from multiplayer fighting games cause I get stomped on and tilted really badly and can never get a hang of the more complex mechanics and movesets. That is a me issue, not an issue with the fighting game genre. I feel like he thinks that he has to be good or his audience will get mad, when really its how he handles when he isn't good that they get mad about.
cant wait to see the 'thespudhunter has gone too far' version of this for dark and darker, im sure this will age well lmao
Do it
Watched him play smite, it was hard to watch. He uninstalled then reinstalled, I'm happy smite is getting new eyes on it but I'm worried he`s going to run into something he doesn't like then complain. For games like smite and hunt it will take a lot of time to get better and I don't think he has it in him to practice 200+ hours and investigate the games via RUclips or twitch to learn more. A big reason why SOT was fun for him was because he got to mess with people who didnt know any better and who had 0 mechanical skill. Basically beating up newbies for fun, he`s coming to the realization he cant do this with hunt or smite. Given time I wonder how many games he will try to jump on that will give him the same feeling as early SOT.
Damn, that was probably the most pathetic streamer moment I've seen since the last time I saw a Hasan clip.
With 1700 hours and 6 stars I’d love to just play a few games of duos vs trios with him and carry his ass to show him the reason we have fun with the game 🤣