I love a company that can listen to there customers and implement change This is how you improve a product and gain a cult like following I will buy many Nitecore products for me and family gifts in future 👍
@@Moetown1986 with the EDC27 is was less IF it melts itself rather WHEN. Unless you're perfect locking these lights out it's just a matter of time. That goes for the 29 as well
I have both but for me the 27 is a better carry as the pocket clip is deeper and just better to carry. That said the 29 is still a brilliant touch, and that new lockout is so much better and faster ! All these touches are a quality build, the best EDC touches I have owned to date and that’s quite a few, lol. Just such a shame Surefire cannot pull their collective fingers out and make something this good 😢
I have been waiting for this review Eric. I highly recommend the EDC29 to your viewers. I own it and it's great. That lockout switch makes this the best out of all the EDC lights from nitecore. The battery can easily last two days for me and that's perfect. I am a security guard and this is my go to pocket torch. If I had one gripe, it would be I wish it just a touch more floody in the lowest light settings. A thrower for sure.
Terrific review! I think that flashlights are under-appreciated. I often look for the latest and greatest little tools like this. For home, work, emergencies and more…. This looks terrific. And I love this small (but not too small) hand held size. I am also currently looking at trigger locks. The ones that pull off when you have them tied down in something like a purse or fannypack or drawer/console. Any suggestions? Thanks again for this good and helpful review. I am so glad I found you and your channel. I will check out your 2nd channel also. ~Sharon from Florida
I get a laugh out of people complaint about built in batteries while they carry around 1000-1500 dollar cell phones they trade in every 1-3 years typically. Losing 500-1000 dollars. I have Rovy Von and Sure fire key chain lights many years old still working and now replaced w better lights. I have a crate full of older lights that are no longer used w replaceable batteries that are basically obsolete vs current offerings. Great review much appreciated.
I hope the buttons are improved, the consistency in the button quality that is. I owned two ED27s with the proximity sensor update so you don't burn a hole in your pants, I lost one while riding on a trail with just 4 months of ownership so I'm on my second ED27 and I just ordered my ED29 couple of hours ago. I've got no issues with the Turbo/Strobe or the "Mode" button on the 27 it's nice and tactile. However, upon opening my second ED27, I can't help but notice a suuuuper mushy power button. Like a night and day difference between my first one, you can barely tell which is a half or a full press and it after owning my second ED27 for nearly a year since I unboxed it, time surely does not help with the tactile feedback of the power button I believe it got worse even. I've read that the ED27 UHI and EDC25 updated the buttons probably also due to user feedback but I do hope I get better buttons on my ED29 that's on the way.
What kills these for me is the sealed, non-replaceable battery. I don't want to buy one knowing it will be in a landfill in a few years with the battery dies.
I find that's less of an issue in edc flashlights that I'm probably just gonna use a couple of times a week for a couple of minutes and don't have to recharge as often.
It’s just like owning a sports car. It probably can reach a top speed of 200mph but u won’t be driving it at that speed all day or everyday. Only short sprints occasionally on the highway. But it’s gd to know that u have the speed if u need it. Same for the EDC29.
ive got the edc25 and its an amazing edc flashlight,the turbo is 10sec (its really a 1 shot burst of light for defense or just when you need it) its not a search light like my acebeam p17...buy acording to your need, its my best every day carry light because of power and size
@outerlimitless what the hell were they smoking when they thought plastic was a good idea. Sounds like they need a new design team, more specifically, those that understand thermodynamics.
@slapnut892 They made the revision in the following models... If the light didn't malfunction it would have been fine but at least they listened and made the changes
Yes I own one and I don’t like the programming it locks up quickly and if you would need it in a emergency its not going to respond.. also I called and contacted support and they where useless
Who the hell wants to own a flashlight where you have to have a degree in computer programing to use? Too complicated for my use. I want something I can basically click on and off in an emergency situation. Flashlights need no be this complex to use no matter how good their performance.
...and there are tons out there that meet that requirement. This one ain't an emergency flashlight, it's for the other 99.9% of the time it's being used as a super versatile worklight. If used regularly, I guarantee you'll just develop muscle memory for those settings you use the most.
@@peterfable The EDC29 is actually much easier to use than all assume. It only took me half a day of just pulling it out and running through the five options ever so often. If you “train” with it like you would anything else then it becomes muscle memory just the same. But be CAREFUL it will set things on fire from a few inches away! 😅
I would like to say that the EDC 29 lock failed and melted my pocket when i had the lock engaged, so that problem is still a reality. I will not put the flashlight back in to my pocket.
Nitecore products are of subpar quality, and their customer service is equally poor. I discovered this when I purchased one of their photography fans, which malfunctioned shortly after use. Despite making four attempts to contact them, I was unsuccessful in resolving the issue. The inconvenience was compounded by the fact that the product had already cost me $60.
A truly pathetic water+dust rating of ip54 and just a 24 month warranty on a light with a permanent, non-replaceable battery? Other than it gets bright in turbo and has a large battery for this size/shape format, what is actually good about this light at all? Am I missing the point? It seems like a fidget toy/gadget with all the counterintuitive modes, options, and dual rear buttons both with dual press modes. Complicated to the point that now a common flashlight needs and has its own LCD display. There's even multiple types of lock modes to figure out. Onto construction, we have stainless shell cover plates screwed into a plastic inner frame. Why not just build the case out of a single, hollowed out block of metal--like the competition does? So now we have a weaker, leaky design that gives it a higher retail price as well. This light seems like a loser for real work. Olight sells the similarly shaped Arkfeld line also with built-in batteries but they warranty the Arkfeld & all internal/built-in batteries for life. Well, at least in the US to the original owner. Still, saying that phone companies "do it too" with the planned obsolescence isn't the hand wave excuse you seem to think it is. Maybe if you think of this as just another fidget toy and not a serious tool, then the low quality and limited support make sense as the user-base will have moved on to another item sponsored by their favorite RUclipsrs by then anyway.
Shows you how overpriced SureFire is show Fire says that there's a maid in the United States yeah there were assembled in the United States with all the parts come from Asia
Yeah no doubt as 2500 mah is a joke for any sustained output. Of course the heat ramps up quick I imagine. I have their Concept 2 and can't imagine needing anymore usable light than it offers, not to mention a ton more capacity and not much larger.
@@commandodude333lol stilleto pro 2 has 1600 mAh and costs over 300 dollars so I dont know what you are comparing it to a cylinder flashlight with consumable batteries?
Hand this to my grandpa and show him how to use it! In 10 secs he'll throw it in the garbage and grab his DD battery Rayovac flashlight out of his kitchen drawer, shake it and flash it at your face with his shoulders shrugging! lol
EDC27 was pretty useless, buttons was clumsy, & didnt always work. Locking function was very unreliable, & switched itself on in my pocket on a couple occasions on full 2000 lumen turbo mode. Burned a hole through two of my pants pockets & melted the polyester from my pocket to my leg. (apparently the proximite sensor did not work as advertised). EDC 27 was also not even splash proof, as it stopped after getting wet in my pocket while running from my car to office in a rain storm. I highly doubt the EDC29 will be any better than the 27... So I will not be buying any other nitecore torches... There are currently A LOT of other brands of high performance torches that is truely better than nitecore at a fraction of the price!!!!!
Honestly, this is way too complicated of a system to be an EDC. Streamlight Pro Tac 2AA, way lighter, plenty bright, simple and I don't have to remember to plug it in. Just replace the 2 AA batteries every 3 months or so. I'll stick with that.
Most of us hate non rechargeable batteries. Plugging it in every 3 months is easier than changing the batteries every 3 months. And you don't have to remember to buy batteries that sometimes corrode and ruin the battery terminals.
@@AkronKid330 I've genuinely never understood that mindset. It's got to be people approaching their 60's who just say "I didn't plug things in back in my day" and refused to realize something is better. lol
@kyle-qw5yx Yeah, to say a rechargeable battery isn't better is insane. Who wants to keep buying batteries for a flashlight when you can plug it in almost anywhere.
I prefer batteries. Not only can I slap a few batteries in when the electric goes out and still have a flashlight I can use, but I can also throw a pack of AA in my backpack when I'm out hiking which is much easier than trying to recharge the flashlight in an emergency situation. Batteries are like extra mags for a gun. You always want extra mags. There's a reason why the military has never carried rechargeable flashlights. They still carry flashlights that run off batteries that can quickly and easily be swapped out. You wouldn't want your rifle to have to recharge in order to be able to fire it and you don't want your flashlight to have to recharge either. With that said, I do realize that most of you hardly ever find yourself deep in the woods or away from the big city lights. Most of you haven't been more than 20 feet away from a wall socket your entire lives.
I love a company that can listen to there customers and implement change
This is how you improve a product and gain a cult like following
I will buy many Nitecore products for me and family gifts in future 👍
I'm glad they listened. The EDC27 seemed like a perfect flashlight until it melted my jeans, burned my leg, and ruined the lens.
@@Moetown1986 with the EDC27 is was less IF it melts itself rather WHEN. Unless you're perfect locking these lights out it's just a matter of time. That goes for the 29 as well
Thanks for the review. I think I might get this. It will definitely be more than enough to use on the road and more as a trucker.
Thank you for review! Eric, awesome feedback and will keep improve!
Pls make it a proper waterproof torch.
@@MrF8M8 I will reflect the idea
Good review ! My finger is hovering the place your order button while speed watching reviews on this 👇📱😎
I have both but for me the 27 is a better carry as the pocket clip is deeper and just better to carry. That said the 29 is still a brilliant touch, and that new lockout is so much better and faster ! All these touches are a quality build, the best EDC touches I have owned to date and that’s quite a few, lol. Just such a shame Surefire cannot pull their collective fingers out and make something this good 😢
I'm picking this up during Black Friday sales
Thanks for the review. What do you think of the 29 vs the EDC 35?
I have been waiting for this review Eric. I highly recommend the EDC29 to your viewers. I own it and it's great. That lockout switch makes this the best out of all the EDC lights from nitecore. The battery can easily last two days for me and that's perfect. I am a security guard and this is my go to pocket torch. If I had one gripe, it would be I wish it just a touch more floody in the lowest light settings. A thrower for sure.
What about the ip4 sitch
@@Cheekamonka thank you. I will get the 35
The lockout on my EC 27 drive me crazy I wish I had the same as the 29
Terrific review! I think that flashlights are under-appreciated. I often look for the latest and greatest little tools like this. For home, work, emergencies and more…. This looks terrific. And I love this small (but not too small) hand held size.
I am also currently looking at trigger locks. The ones that pull off when you have them tied down in something like a purse or fannypack or drawer/console. Any suggestions?
Thanks again for this good and helpful review. I am so glad I found you and your channel. I will check out your 2nd channel also.
~Sharon from Florida
I was riding my bike and FOUND one of these on the road with barely a scratch on it! Lucky me, huh?!
it’s mine! 😂
The owner of that flsshlite. Actually ran away from a banshee😅
Love the light hate the lockout Seems like a mechanical slide switch lockout would be much simpler to much pissing around to get the light on.
I get a laugh out of people complaint about built in batteries while they carry around 1000-1500 dollar cell phones they trade in every 1-3 years typically. Losing 500-1000 dollars. I have Rovy Von and Sure fire key chain lights many years old still working and now replaced w better lights. I have a crate full of older lights that are no longer used w replaceable batteries that are basically obsolete vs current offerings. Great review much appreciated.
The EDC29 is the go to flashlight. Don’t bother with the other ones.
which one would you recommend edc35 or edc29?
just for an everyday carry at work
great review. you convinced me to pull the trigger on one. thanks. subscribed too!
Ok listen to the request of making it waterproof is that Terri much to ask from an EDC LIGHT?
I hope the buttons are improved, the consistency in the button quality that is. I owned two ED27s with the proximity sensor update so you don't burn a hole in your pants, I lost one while riding on a trail with just 4 months of ownership so I'm on my second ED27 and I just ordered my ED29 couple of hours ago. I've got no issues with the Turbo/Strobe or the "Mode" button on the 27 it's nice and tactile. However, upon opening my second ED27, I can't help but notice a suuuuper mushy power button. Like a night and day difference between my first one, you can barely tell which is a half or a full press and it after owning my second ED27 for nearly a year since I unboxed it, time surely does not help with the tactile feedback of the power button I believe it got worse even. I've read that the ED27 UHI and EDC25 updated the buttons probably also due to user feedback but I do hope I get better buttons on my ED29 that's on the way.
How are the buttons on the EDC29? I have the EDC27 with super mushy buttons as well, and I hope this one solves the problem.
I hope its better than the last one. F that lockout button.
What kills these for me is the sealed, non-replaceable battery. I don't want to buy one knowing it will be in a landfill in a few years with the battery dies.
These flashlights are just marketing tactics they get to much overhyped I prefer just a good old trusty normal flashlight with a replaceable battery
@TheOutdoors87 Lol
I find that's less of an issue in edc flashlights that I'm probably just gonna use a couple of times a week for a couple of minutes and don't have to recharge as often.
Just like 500-1500 dollar cell phones people keep buying.
How is the lanyard attached? I feel pretty dumb asking...
@@Entreri007 it loops through the hole.. makes more sense when you see it in person...
I don't think the battery is recharging, I believe it's the thermal cut out.
@@Studat I annotated that... You are correct
Come on guys! Get those likes up! Eric does great reviews!
My only gripe is the water proof rating other then that I already bought it lol
Same here. I got mine but wished it was waterproof at least up to 3-5m or so. 10m wud be awesome.
I had it in my pocket at work and from sweating there’s moisture inside the lens wtf
The turbo mode is so short as to be basically worthless.
It’s that power what do you expect for a pocket carry, this torch is brilliant !
It’s just like owning a sports car. It probably can reach a top speed of 200mph but u won’t be driving it at that speed all day or everyday. Only short sprints occasionally on the highway. But it’s gd to know that u have the speed if u need it. Same for the EDC29.
ive got the edc25 and its an amazing edc flashlight,the turbo is 10sec (its really a 1 shot burst of light for defense or just when you need it) its not a search light like my acebeam p17...buy acording to your need, its my best every day carry light because of power and size
How did it melt the lens? Is it plastic?
@@Peanut-Butter-Banana-Rama the original was
@outerlimitless what the hell were they smoking when they thought plastic was a good idea. Sounds like they need a new design team, more specifically, those that understand thermodynamics.
@slapnut892 They made the revision in the following models... If the light didn't malfunction it would have been fine but at least they listened and made the changes
Turbo needs more running time for better!
Yes I own one and I don’t like the programming it locks up quickly and if you would need it in a emergency its not going to respond.. also I called and contacted support and they where useless
Watterproofing is not the greatest.
It's water resistant not proof dont go scuba diving or dropping it in a river now busy..
It's not even rain proof. They need to fix this.
@@KarmaFlight I have used my EDC27 in the rain again and again. Zero issues.
@@Studat that’s great but this is the 29. Ive heard reports of the OLED diaplay failing.
@@KarmaFlight my 27 has an Oled display and it's fine
You have to be careful because it burns so hot. It’ll melt your pants. Then it’ll melt the lens. Then it’s worthless.
For $110 it better cook my meals :)
I started with the ED27 then the to the 25. Just ordered the 29 today. All my olights are sitting in a drawer. And will be for quite some time
Olight is very very overrated
Acebeam are amazing
Who the hell wants to own a flashlight where you have to have a degree in computer programing to use? Too complicated for my use. I want something I can basically click on and off in an emergency situation. Flashlights need no be this complex to use no matter how good their performance.
...and there are tons out there that meet that requirement. This one ain't an emergency flashlight, it's for the other 99.9% of the time it's being used as a super versatile worklight. If used regularly, I guarantee you'll just develop muscle memory for those settings you use the most.
Ah yes. Click button a few times = programming
@@peterfableexactly it’s not that complicated once you’ve been using it for about a week
Its not that hard bro you can just be less of a hateful idiot and learn it
@@peterfable The EDC29 is actually much easier to use than all assume. It only took me half a day of just pulling it out and running through the five options ever so often. If you “train” with it like you would anything else then it becomes muscle memory just the same.
But be CAREFUL it will set things on fire from a few inches away! 😅
I would like to say that the EDC 29 lock failed and melted my pocket when i had the lock engaged, so that problem is still a reality. I will not put the flashlight back in to my pocket.
@@jeremypoehlman7078 Wow! Damn! Did the switch get flipped? Or did the light malfunction?
This is NITECORE Service, and we are glad to help, could you email us for warranty purposes？
@@jeremypoehlman7078 I have had zero issues. Any idea how that might have happened?
The light now has proximity sensor it will go down to 400 lumens automatically
Nitecore products are of subpar quality, and their customer service is equally poor. I discovered this when I purchased one of their photography fans, which malfunctioned shortly after use. Despite making four attempts to contact them, I was unsuccessful in resolving the issue. The inconvenience was compounded by the fact that the product had already cost me $60.
A truly pathetic water+dust rating of ip54 and just a 24 month warranty on a light with a permanent, non-replaceable battery?
Other than it gets bright in turbo and has a large battery for this size/shape format, what is actually good about this light at all? Am I missing the point?
It seems like a fidget toy/gadget with all the counterintuitive modes, options, and dual rear buttons both with dual press modes. Complicated to the point that now a common flashlight needs and has its own LCD display.
There's even multiple types of lock modes to figure out.
Onto construction, we have stainless shell cover plates screwed into a plastic inner frame. Why not just build the case out of a single, hollowed out block of metal--like the competition does? So now we have a weaker, leaky design that gives it a higher retail price as well.
This light seems like a loser for real work.
Olight sells the similarly shaped Arkfeld line also with built-in batteries but they warranty the Arkfeld & all internal/built-in batteries for life. Well, at least in the US to the original owner.
Still, saying that phone companies "do it too" with the planned obsolescence isn't the hand wave excuse you seem to think it is.
Maybe if you think of this as just another fidget toy and not a serious tool, then the low quality and limited support make sense as the user-base will have moved on to another item sponsored by their favorite RUclipsrs by then anyway.
Shows you how overpriced SureFire is show Fire says that there's a maid in the United States yeah there were assembled in the United States with all the parts come from Asia
Nitecore is made in China. But still great QC.
There's a ton of maids in the United States.
3000 and 6500 are pointless if it only last 2-3 seconds.
Can’t change batteries, can’t mount on a gun 😮 👎👎
The battery is way too small...
Yeah no doubt as 2500 mah is a joke for any sustained output. Of course the heat ramps up quick I imagine. I have their Concept 2 and can't imagine needing anymore usable light than it offers, not to mention a ton more capacity and not much larger.
@@commandodude333 to be fair, i wanted to buy it since it was disclosed on RUclips but meanwhile the Baton Turbo appeared too. I bought that one.
@@commandodude333lol stilleto pro 2 has 1600 mAh and costs over 300 dollars so I dont know what you are comparing it to a cylinder flashlight with consumable batteries?
What a dumb comment. Give me examples of equivalent form factor lights with bigger capacity battery. I'll wait...
@@commandodude333isn’t it too big for most people to edc in their pocket?
Hand this to my grandpa and show him how to use it! In 10 secs he'll throw it in the garbage and grab his DD battery Rayovac flashlight out of his kitchen drawer, shake it and flash it at your face with his shoulders shrugging! lol
EDC27 was pretty useless, buttons was clumsy, & didnt always work. Locking function was very unreliable, & switched itself on in my pocket on a couple occasions on full 2000 lumen turbo mode. Burned a hole through two of my pants pockets & melted the polyester from my pocket to my leg. (apparently the proximite sensor did not work as advertised).
EDC 27 was also not even splash proof, as it stopped after getting wet in my pocket while running from my car to office in a rain storm.
I highly doubt the EDC29 will be any better than the 27... So I will not be buying any other nitecore torches... There are currently A LOT of other brands of high performance torches that is truely better than nitecore at a fraction of the price!!!!!
Honestly, this is way too complicated of a system to be an EDC. Streamlight Pro Tac 2AA, way lighter, plenty bright, simple and I don't have to remember to plug it in. Just replace the 2 AA batteries every 3 months or so. I'll stick with that.
Most of us hate non rechargeable batteries. Plugging it in every 3 months is easier than changing the batteries every 3 months. And you don't have to remember to buy batteries that sometimes corrode and ruin the battery terminals.
@kyle-qw5yx bingo. He forgets to plug it in. I forget to buy batteries. 😂
@@AkronKid330 I've genuinely never understood that mindset. It's got to be people approaching their 60's who just say "I didn't plug things in back in my day" and refused to realize something is better. lol
@kyle-qw5yx Yeah, to say a rechargeable battery isn't better is insane. Who wants to keep buying batteries for a flashlight when you can plug it in almost anywhere.
I prefer batteries. Not only can I slap a few batteries in when the electric goes out and still have a flashlight I can use, but I can also throw a pack of AA in my backpack when I'm out hiking which is much easier than trying to recharge the flashlight in an emergency situation. Batteries are like extra mags for a gun. You always want extra mags. There's a reason why the military has never carried rechargeable flashlights. They still carry flashlights that run off batteries that can quickly and easily be swapped out. You wouldn't want your rifle to have to recharge in order to be able to fire it and you don't want your flashlight to have to recharge either. With that said, I do realize that most of you hardly ever find yourself deep in the woods or away from the big city lights. Most of you haven't been more than 20 feet away from a wall socket your entire lives.
Tuned out at 1.55 after hearing the words EDC 29 every opportunity that was given so stay safe guys im out.
Buh Bye...
Why? Explain
@@AkronKid330he can't even time stamp i wouldn't take his opinion
@@TheTAEclub good point. 😂