Chad Daybell's Neighbor Speaks Out!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Bernadine McCandless returns to Mormon Book Reviews to discuss with Steven Pynakker the recent guilty verdict of her former nieghbor Chad Daybell.
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Killing children for any reason IS WRONG AT ANY TIME
i agree
@@lisalesliefan1976 Everyone agrees. Sickening.
Emma not only threw her mother under the bus, she ran over her 10 times. Both Emma and Garth showed no respect for their mother. How can they even live in that house knowing their mother was murdered there by their father? How can they let their children play in the yard where two young, innocent and beautiful children were killed, mutilated and buried. These horrible crimes tore apart many families. Chad and Lori are exactly where they need to be. Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. If you believe in GOD, how could they do this????
I'm so glad that Tammy's sister stood up and debunked the 'lazy overweight' slur. Emma should be ashamed of herself. Her mother was the one that stayed loyal to the family. Her father cheated, lied, was adulterous and took their mother away from them and their children yet she stood by him. He killed small children...what if he had deemed her child dark, a zombie?! Noone will ever believe anything she ever says again imo.
They believe the same crap so that’s how
Thankful for Samantha Gwilliams victim impact statement. She stood up for Tammy in the best way.
They are no brainers . It looks like out of a movie zombie land
I share the same thoughts! Thank you for saying that.
This is about right and wrong. Every human being, no matter what Church they belong to, knows murdering people is wrong.
I agree. I'm angry that Chad didn't have the balls to make a statement and explain his pathetic evil self. Disgusting. He absolutely knew this was wrong. But I think he thought he was some Harry Potter type figure out saving the world from fake possessed zombies.
Chad and Lori was a means to an end, they wanted to be together !!! How's that working out now for you ??!!
@@Francis-xl2guRight! I would love to know if they think it was worth it!?! 😮
That’s a oxymoron, murderers don’t know right from wrong- sheesh
Killing were once the work of the devil,😈 Now religious people are justifying killing others as Gods plan. The world has gone upside down.
Charles tried to nip this whole ordeal in the bud and no one took him seriously or did anything about it
It’s tragic.
Chads kids are 30 plus and teachers. Lying under oath is wrong. And knowing your mom passed and not able to find dad and then waiting 4 hours before calling 911 is pure wrong. I understand trying to save a parent but not able to understand putting another parent in the bad light especially who spent the entire life working hard esp as a contractor without missing a day so that she could bring money home. It is just wrong. This is the reason people are looking down on them. Also when cops were there the kids were not even asking about the murdered kids. This is not normal.
Damaged damaged people who like damaged children
Very good points. How can they teach kids when they are void of emotion IMO
Generational trauma is right.. Chad and Lori’s EVIL acts has been a ripple effect for hundreds of people, families and communities.
I think she's correct about the neighbour dying....I don't think it's a coincidence. I'm glad she's mentioned it.
Me too.
Exactly! And how about Lori’s ex Joe Ryan? He and Alex were cremated so they can’t be exhumed. Although, I’m quite sure Alex had a had in the murders, I still believe they poisoned him/killed him.
I think Alex was killed by Lori and chad …
@marlenedeal7124 He told Zulema that they were going to make him their "fall guy" when he heard about Tammy's exhumation. He very well could have taken his own life rather than face going to prison again. Just a thought.
@@MadgeGreen I agree, either Chad and Lori killed him or he committed suicide. In my honest opinion, there’s a 0.00001% chance it was natural causes. And why do all these people cremate everyone? I guess to hide the evidence lol
Not true that Emma & Garth only have their dad left, so that’s why they lied to save him. Emma has a husband & children of her own & Garth has a wife. The both have sister & brothers as well. They have grandparents & a large extended family/families. No excuses for these two perjurers.
This whole case is so sad! Justice was served. Now let’s get Justice for Charles!
Yes!! 💯👏👏👏
I appreciate Bernadine stating that she feels the neighbor man that died, was also tied to Chad. Finally, someone said it!!!!
Oh wow.. do you follow Hidden True Crime? Wonder if they've heard of this
@@cail171 Yes, I follow them. She has spoke with Bernadine a couple of years ago, so I am sure she and her husband are aware of it. I'm not sure what the man's family think or have had to say about it. People said he was always out in the neighborhood and knew everything going on, so it's possible he saw things at Chad's.
The family of that man say Chad had nothing to do with his death, but I know Bernadine and other neighbors think the same thing because he was snooping around when Chad was burning Tylee. Burning bodies smells really bad. Just like animals do.
I want to know how Emma will still be allowed to teach in that community along with her husband when they have committed perjury and has swallowed all Chad’s nonsense!
I think they need to move far away so maybe get a fresh start..she shouldn’t be still teaching at that school !
Yeah I agree. They need a fresh start and some therapy and complete separation from Chad so they can realize the truth and deal with their trauma. And hopefully heal.
Garth and Joe Murray are teachers too, they should never be allowed to work around children!!!
I believe Emma resigned her position at the school, as she should. So many from the school loved Tammy so very much. To face them all after all her lies about her mother I’m sure contributed……as they should!!!
I think Emma has had three children since Tammy died
It really is not true that all they have left is their father.
The siblings have each other, and extended family (aunt, uncle, grandparents, cousins etc).
They have made a choice to support their father/cult leader, and turn their backs on the rest of the family, and their mother.
That's true. But no one beats a parent in your love.
In reality, they never truly had their father. They were used by Chad like puppets to support his needs.
She's right, I'm a non-denominational Christian and we need to use discernment all around with family, friends, colleagues, associates, etc. The bible says to "test every spirit" we just don't take someone's word for it, it needs to show up in their actions as well. I think Chad was a soft spoken person, appeared to be a good family man, and maybe those around him thought he was harmless or just "shrugged off" his weird beliefs and looked the other way, maybe thats how he was able to fly below the radar.
We can't measure what someone else would or wouldn't do based on our own principals and morals. The truth is only God knows the desires of our heart.
You are very right, all people and all religions need to use common sense and discernment in all ways.
Yes, I agree.
Yes and all the while the main thing he wanted was a hot woman to make him feel like an alpha male. Chad was so far from anything like that his whole life so when the fantasy presented itself, he would kill anybody to have it. Pathetic, but that simple.
The thing is… you don’t just need discernment about people. Paying attention to beliefs, facts and patterns… and scrutinizing them… what you accept or not… what you will do … is just as important.
And you’re right… it’s all dogma that we need to evaluate for ourselves. Not just religious.
Lazy is dangerous.
@@gtaylor6937 THIS! 👆🏻
7:56 The sickening part is that Tylee, JJ, and Tammy will never get to experience that again. WHO CARES ABOUT CHAD OR LORI.
My thoughts exactly.
Don’t forget, Lori has a dead third husband, who like Alex, also died of “natural causes.”
Yes , Joe Ryan’s sister suffers over the lies from Lori and mysterious Alex Lori death of her brother.
Unfortunately, he was cremated so can't imagine any chance of a true investigation.
And Alex Cox violently attacked Lori’s 3rd husband, Joe Ryan, and served time in prison for that attack. And then there are several of Lori’s friends, plus her brother Adam who says that Lori paid Alex to unalive Joe Ryan. It’s much more likely that Joe Ryan was a victim of Lori Vallow, but authorities did not find his body for 2-3 weeks and the deterioration of the body made them just go with natural causes bc of some heart medications he was on. 1) Lori stayed in town and refused to travel to Charles’ mother’s funeral in Louisiana the very weekend he died; 2) she told someone (or more than one) that she saw Joe take his last breath; 3) she had access to the key to his apt. on Tylee’s key ring; 4) in body cam footage, Charles was repeating what Lori said to him (Charles), and Charles said Lori said, “I will kill you TOO!!” “Too” would imply she’s killed before; 5) Lori benefited financially; 6) Lori hated and despised Joe Ryan; and 7) Lori gave a speech about wanting to murder Joe Ryan (it’s out there on YT with Mel Gibb and Zulema giggling in the background). 😡 Lori had motive, means and opportunity, and if properly investigated there is more evidence to be found to support that Lori more likely than not unalived Joe Ryan. And there’s a Petition for signatures to get an investigation going (started by his sister, Annie Cushing) Please seek it out and sign. It’s something like “justice4Joe@bit-ly.com”. Sorry, it’s probably not exact but you get the idea.
@@Sin-D_I'm with you 100%!
I 100 % think Ryan died at the hands of her
It’s so nice to hear someone say you don’t bash other religions.
Ye, or is. I’m grateful to him for not doing that.
I’m grateful for that, too.
Yeah, well bashing defeats any purpose you may have as far as faith goes. I mean unless your purpose is to bash.
And I appreciate it too! I just enjoy listening and learning about faith and about others’ beliefs. Beside those of us who believe in God have a lot more in common than differences.
The children betrayed their mom.I think they damaged their dad defence with their lies. They ruined their reputation for ever..chad gave them "blood money " as I heared on the podcast.
And nowrhat Chad was convicted of insurance fraud,as well it clears the path for the insurance companies to go after his kids for the insurance money they received from Chad on the day of his arrest.
What part of Missouri is now her home?
You know as far as Emma And Garth are concerned they are adults! As far as that Chad is all they have left is understatement they have their mother Tammy’s family who they chose to discard! They were star witnesses for the prosecution! Garth couldn’t keep his stories straight and Emma’s testimony was proven false with a rebuttal witness and recording! They threw their mother and her family under the bus for what? I pity them and pray for them they drank daddies kool-aid!
Thank you Bernadine! I’ve seen you on Hidden True Crime as well- great to hear your insights. I really appreciate your “No BS” attitude and being a truth-teller. So many people in the LDS faith and community are willing to hide their heads in the sand and pretend nothing happened and refuse to allow themselves to see reality.
And you know this how?
False prophets in all religions, but certain religions practice tenets that I can see could lead to extremism and cult formation. Religions based on fear and supernatural theories and odd rituals are especially prone to these kinds of things. If people would just practice the golden rule and not religious dogma, then the world would be a much better place, in my opinion.
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Who would of thunk it!! Mormonism and Islam have those same weird paths to take for delusions
Well said!!
There is absolutely no excuse for Emma and Garth. They threw their mother under the bus. Plus they showed they are uncreditable people. They lied, embellished their lies, put their mother down. How disgusting.
I hope this teaches us that not all Mormons are created equal.
What they hojng to do when thus same thing happens to them for every possibly can come back and bite them.....
We all Reap What we Sow,
Eye for an eye,
Tooth for a tooth,
What goes around,
Comes around and if their dad did this to their mother they could go through the same, and ached and Lori killed those innocent kids so it can happen to anyone....
I wouldn't want to live there life, their lies and putting their mother under the bus......
Emma looked up wind direction. LE needs to put the screws to her, because she may have had a hand in the burning.
Absolutely, I was horrified. Emma , I think, is all in with her Dad. Garth, I think he was dragged in. He was not comfortable on the stand where Emma was just fine and nonchalant
The way Emma talked with her dad, when they were in the process of actually finding out the fate of the children because they were discovering thier remains, tells me all I need to know about how deep she is in it with her dad.
It’s horrifying to me that they teach children!
While I agree that extremists sprout from all religions, I just want to add this. Heather Daybell tried a number of times to raise the alarm on Chad to the Church, and she was dismissed. Both leaders and a clear majority favoured Chad above Heather although at that time she held a higher position in the church? Her warnings ignored and Chad was let continue without interruption, which only encouraged and justified to others that Chad was considered more favourable by the church in his teachings. Moving forward, how can a tragedy such as this be avoided in future if those in power allow such behaviours to continue without investigation or questions asked? Honestly this is what disturbs me most.
Heather was brilliant !!! Charles and Heather was ignored, this is where we are now, such a shame
Judy Hildibrant and Ruby Frankie should be kept in jail for life so they can’t hurt anyone ever again!!!😮
100% agree
THE FACT IS, THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT MISSED THE CHANCE OR IGNORED THEIRR CHANCE TO STOP LORI, IN PARTICULAR. Charles went to the Church to have Lori kicked out or disciplined, in the hope she'd snap out of her delusion. Supposedly, Lori was able to talk her way out of that. Listening to numerous tapes of Lori, testimony and interviews, I find it hard to believe that the Pastor didn't realize something was extremely wrong with Lori. LORI WASN'T HIDING HER BELIEFS. I THINK THAT PASTOR (don't know what Mormons call their Clergy) didn't think something was off. SOCIAL SERVICES WEREN'T CALLED. That was another missed opportunity.
BUT THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE IN THE LDS CHURCH THAT KNEW CHAD'S BELIEFS AND LISTENED TO LORI'S RHETORIC, NEVER WARNED ANYONE. HEATHER DAYBELL SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ONE THAT SAW THE DANGER IN ALL THESE CRAZY BELIEFS!
Maybe bc I'm from NYC? We are hammered with "IF YOU SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING" and we do. The blinders in this case were unfathomable.
Of course Chad's children have now lost their father too, but what I cannot understand at all is that none of the children stood up for their mother!!! Emma tried so hard to portray her mother as a fitbit fraudster, but the fact that her father cheated on her mother with this woman was not a problem??? Her father not only killed her mother, but also two innocent children and you don't doubt him? That is sooo sick!!! Poor Tammy 😢😢😢
I just found your channel Steve. I am an EX-Mormon and a non-Denominational Christian. I have followed the Daybell/Vallow case since 2020 and really enjoyed hearing from Chad’s neighbor, what a lovely lady. No matter what happens to Chad on death row, it will never compare to what those kids and Tammy went through. God Bless you Steve. 🙏✝️🙏✝️🙏✝️
As a Catholic I would never explain lying by my religion
Catholicism has its own set of problems
Thank you for mentioning Annie, most podcasters that cover this case don't include her when they talk about the family victims. She needs to be acknowledged too.
There is no excuse for perjury! Ashamed of the two of those offspring. Horrible behaviour!
Attending Roman Catholic School in Fort Wayne we were taught at a young age that you have your guardian angel sitting on your right shoulder and the devil on your left shoulder, be careful which one you listen too. And we have secular laws that help to guide people too.
Sinestra in Italian means left. As an Italian and a leftie .. I knew it stemmed from left being sinister .. but found it odd…. now I get it with your comment. Thank you.
And so you believe that??
That is sad to teach any child that their thoughts are being influenced by a good and bad Angel, nothing about free will and do the right things. My experience with Catholic’s, I always wondered why they do bad things and think they can just repent and do it all over again. I don’t do religion for this reason.
Sounds like false religion, because of imaginary angles sitting on your shoulders external from your intuition and being led by the spirit of God, not man.
@@marylyons1529to repeat it, I would say yes she believes and put her children under the same false beliefs.
All “religion” is man-made. That’s the problem. Christ’s message was SO simple and so un-convoluted.
Yes and Jesus warns about people preaching a different Jesus than in the GOSPELS. Jesus specifically warns against it. We're also directed not to take away or ADD anything to it.
@@theShamrockShepherdWagonwould we then need to ditch all the chapters that are not in the four gospels? Ditch everything Paul wrote? Because he was adding to the gospel of Jesus and (in my opinion) adding his opinion on what he thought Jesus would've meant. But nowadays people take the thoughts Paul wrote to other churches as sacred law almost.
Right? And Jesus wasn’t a Christian. He was a messenger… everything after that has been constructed by humans, eager to make it something they can twist and manipulate.
You are so right , Jesus didn’t come here to start a religion, he came to start a revolution. No religion was ever mentioned just his message . Religion has taken take than ran amok with it. I still can’t understand the entire Joseph Smith thing. If he did that today…he would be seen as crazy. I’m not bashing LDS…I just don’t understand why they believe what Joseph Smith said was proof. ?
@@theShamrockShepherdWagon you are 100% correct. I wish more people would see it the way you do. ❤
them kids should be ashamed how they didnt stick up for there mom
I’m wondering if Chads kids blame Tammy for what happens to thier corrupt father. They don’t come across like they liked her.
Chad was listening to the storm!
In my opinion their religion wasn’t their top priority. Lust, money, and power was. They didn’t want the children in the way, but they couldn’t continue to collect their SS money so they couldn’t just hand them off to a family member. Lori manipulated Chad by stroking his ego. He even said in one of his text messages that he couldn’t believe he finally found this perfect woman, a goddess, the woman of his dreams and that she wanted him. He manipulated Lori with making her feel powerful putting her on a pedestal. Chad and Lori both used their religion as a tool to have Alex do the dirty work. What they did is what happens when people turn a blind eye to our Heavenly Father and abandon their beliefs. Such a sad sad trail of death.
South African ex-Mormon here 🇿🇦, spent a lot of years in Zimbabwe, I think Bernadine is from my neck of the woods. Thanks Steve for bringing her on. Hope you and your mom are doing ok. This has been such a tragedy. RIP Tylee, JJ, Tammy and Charles.
Amen! I’ve had the same thought about Chad and WHO exactly he was listening to.
He was obviously listening to Satan.
He was listening to Satan and not God.
I dated a guy my senior year at Arizona State University whose dad was a “non denominational” pastor. (More like Pentecostal) I remember a couple that joined their church from somewhere else and got in good with everyone in the church community. Then this couple started getting everyone into MLM marketing crap. I was very Leary about it all. But then, coming from a lifetime of the Catholic Faith it was quite a shock to see people getting into the spirit. And as a nursing student I kept wondering if I was going to be called upon to perform first aide.
I grew up catholic as well. Went to a strip mall church with a boyfriend. Women on one side, men on the other.
Never tried that again. I told him I wasn’t into any of that and wasn’t looking for a new boss.
What is MLM please??
@@cccooper472 multi level marketing. Also known as pyramid sales. Most of it is a scam
What happened to knowing you are not supposed to put your faith in NO MAN.
I remember in 2017 or 2018 during general conference one of the apostles warned about getting involved in groups that focus too much on the end of the world. I can't remember who was giving the talk or exactly when it was, but it made my ears perk up, and I thought it was strange and that it must be a Utah thing. I hadn't heard anything about these groups here in Southern Arizona, but it turns out these misled people spanned multiple states. Yikes. Does anyone else remember that comment? After the Chad and Lori fiasco started I tried to look it up, but could never find it.
Anyway, I think the antidote to those wackadoodle ideas is to focus on loving people and ministering to them the way Jesus would if he were here.
I remember that as well. But I don’t remember who. I also remember the “warning” about the energy healers. I don’t remember what year that was
I remember thinking at conference “What are they talking about?”
There was a whole lot of crazy with thousands of LDS ppl getting sucked into it.
Agree-use your brains, common sense and conscience.
I remember that talk.
@@RuthZeeck do you remember who it was and what year?
@@DesertPrimrose I’m trying!!
A lot of this interview is EXACTLY why people have been so critical of the LDS church. The fact that the local ward is still divided over whether Chad is guilty or not is very telling. Plus, the church protected Chad. They ostracized Heather Daybell and anyone else who threw up a red flag and said wait something isn’t right here. And then the fact that they had a new temple ceremony the day of Chad’s sentencing like they completely ignored what was happening was also extremely telling. Its not interesting things that they are drawn to. It’s weird, made up, fantasies. It’s wild to me that practicing LDS people can’t see how the church tried to protect Chad and how they think it’s ok. WILD to me.
What on earth are you talking about? I know that a lot of what you are saying is just plain false.
I think they do it because if people start thinking critically about Chad, they might take the next logical step, and closely examine the mainstream church’s teachings as well. Yes, Chad’s beliefs were extreme, but the same mother birthed those babies.
True Christians don't lie.....even if the monster is their dad.
Then, unfortunately, I've never met a true Christian.
Well Mormons are NOT Christians
@@gowanderlustwithme agree, Mormonism has some creepy teachings, magic underwear, temple sealings, baptism for the dead, before you were born you were in heaven and were sent into a body, you'lll have your own planet and be gods, so there's that.
I think they have been through so much trauma that they haven't dealt with yet, that they haven't even entertained the truth. I believe they'll come around eventually. I think some serious therapy would help that happen much more quickly. I hope they get some help soon. I hope they aren't able to communicate with Chad anymore. That would help too.
@@Star-gw2sj yeah it's easy to armchair quarterback but we just don't know what those kids have been through, so I'm trying to have compassion, and I hope for some serious therapy. If it's even enough. 😭
Why are people so mean in the comments? Don't bash millions of people for the sins of these 2 sickos.
They are trying to figure out how to deal with their emotions and looking for who to blame. These things are so heinous that I can understand why they're doing it, even if I think it's wrong.
And we are not called the Mormon church.
@@crazyaboutcards💯!
Chad was listening to the storm.
Love Bernadine. Introduced to her on Hidden True Crime.
As an ex-Mormon atheist, I'm appalled at the numbers of people still believing the lies of Joseph Smith.
You'll be ok. I'm appalled at your status as well. We're even. I'm ok too.
Im happy to read this! I can't judge, but what I have seen from that religion in the media? It sounds really abusive...
From sisterwives, too Chat and Lori.. It is just to much!
"The book of Mormon: another gospel of Jesus Christ?"
Jesus warned us about adfing anything to or subtracting anything from his gospel to us about salvation as His gift to us by His death on the cross.
Mormonism is bad enough, but it's a nightmare thst anyone believe(d) any of Daybell's nonsense.
Murd3r as our golden ticket to be among "the 144,000?"
Right?! 🎯
I hope you’re doing better Steve. Prayers to you and your mom🥰
I dont understand how JJ and Tylee would have been in the way of Chad and Lori being together. They could have divorced their spouses to be together. Why did they all have to die?
For social security money
Insurance fraud
Agree..but remember, Lauri was still receiving money from Tylee n JJs social benefits after the death of their father..😢
Sex, power, and money
Blood sacrifice
The Mormon church has said for the first time that its founder Joseph Smith had up to 40 wives.
why can't women have 40 husbands?
I questioned a devout female Mormon on this and she said Joseph Smith continued to marry woman to 'protect' them. He was just another Jeff's.
They are seriel killers.
Thankyou for this video
I’ve followed the trial from the start and I’m glad this part is over for the victims and family affected members , Scotland will never forget those beautiful souls Tammy , jj , tylee , Charles and Alex
Sending absent healing and thanks to you from Scotland uk.
There's a way to avoid this. Stick to the Word of God (the bible). Do what God says. Not man. (Jack Hibbs/RUclips)
Oh that god was full of contradictions though.....
I don't really find anything wrong with Emma and Garth wanting to support their father, but they could have done so without sounding so utterly disrespectful to their mother.
I find everything wrong with denying reality and blindly believing the person responsible for the death of 3 people.
Your nuts
Support doesn't equal lying and committing perjury in a Court proceeding. How they spoke about their mother is sadly appalling.
They can still love knowing he is a serial killer. They both made their mother just so ill.
The fact that Chad allowed them to lie for him shows he cares more about himself rather than his own children. It’s sad that they don’t see it.
Just found your channel tonight. Enjoying this interview so much. What a refreshing platform you have here. Thank you for the no-bashing atmosphere. So much common sense thinking. Thank you.
While I agree there are extremists in all religions, the LDS’s belief in the 144,000, the idea that Mormonism is the only true faith & Mormons are the only ones who will get to heaven, the idea of the need to prep for the end days, and the belief in visions and revelations played a major role in this particular tragedy. Not to mention, LDS elders were well aware of CD’s extreme beliefs, and they continued to embrace him (and Lori) until the children were found, which gives the impression of excepting those beliefs! The truth is, when you adamantly believe in a particular ideology, it’s much easier to take that to an extreme.
All denominations have indeed gone the way of Cain (fame/fortune) but I've noticed something they have in common. There's always an Angel bringing an unknown doctrine or a person (wannabe god) who craves adoration. Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
It’s NOT enmeshed in the culture! There are a FEW people who are still misled by Chad and Julie etc crap.
I'm not even Christian, I'm pagan, and I agree with you all. Many of us use energy work and other abilities in our practices, but we're not out killing people. On agency -- being free people -- he's spot on. Where there's people wanting a leader, there's a character waiting to use them. In particular when we compromise our free-personhood. Spot on
This episode showed up on our feed and we really enjoyed it so we subscribed!
Thank you both, we appreciate the information you brought to us all.
We are happy that Justice has been served.
What I don't understand as a faithful member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, why Chad and Lori, especially Chad, wasn't excommunicated sooner. Surely leaders knew something was wrong when Chad stated his own church/beliefs...?
Yes Mam you are absolutely right. No religion drives/teaches you to become evil and perpetrate evil/gruesome things like they did. Thanks for being with us here. God bless you and your family!
After listening to the prosecutor's closing argument I think they will go after Melanie P.
Thanks for keeping South Africa in your prayers. God is in control of our beautiful country, and His will be done. 🙏🏻 🙏🏻. Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
Oh dear, now religionists are starting to understand how those of us who do not follow the belief systems that declare themselves the one knowledge have been feeling for years. Stepping around the delusion.......
Those who are disappointed in the children need to look at trauma bonding. They are now emotionally struggling and need therapy.
Emma died her hair to keep her hubby from checking out a blonde bombshell. 😂😂
Oh Bernandine. I saw your interview on HTC as well. The tentacles of these evil acts reach so far. How eerie for your children. It is generational trauma and so widespread. Thank you for telling your story. I hope that healing comes for all affected.
What you said about Chad daybells in all religions is just flat wrong. Yes there are religious zealots but we NEVER see the amount of strange and murderous behavior come out of a single church and we ABSOLUTELY need to change the way we look at Mormons and the LDS church. They have mainstream beliefs that lead directly to Chad daybell, Richins, Hildabrandts, Frankes and many others. This is not bashing this is a wake up call on facts
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I think it's because of their 11th article of faith. It allows it's members to believe what they want to believe.
My husband was born in Rhodesia but the parents left because it was no longer under British rule. The Mother was from England and Dad from Zwitzerland.
Nice to listen to you both. Ive been following this case since the get go. So devastating to countless people around them.
Also wanted to say that I live in mid Missouri. Hope you like it here.
It’s good to hear about Chad outside of the news. What he was like in his everyday interactions.
3:51 she says we all just need to watch ourselves. Yeah, Mosiah 4 verse 30 in The Book of Mormon says “But this much I can tell you, that if ye do not watch yourselves, and your thoughts, and your words, and your deeds, and observe the commandments of God, and continue in the faith of what ye have heard concerning the coming of our Lord, even unto the end of your lives, ye must perish. And now, O man, remember, and perish not.”
So glad Im a southern Baptist! We do not form cults.
If you believe in God and that he gave his only begotten son, an who so ever believeth in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Also my favorites verse is John 3:16
I appreciate hearing different points of view. Thank you both ❤
What will Emma say when her children want to go "play in the backyard Mom?" Knowing two children were buried there? What a bizarre family.
Thank you for this kind and caring interview.
Every Cult-religious or not-is dangerous!A real Christ doesn’t need that!
The main problem with LDS is that they have strict rules but have that 11th article of faith. Things that make you go, hmmmm. Do they have rules, or can you believe and worship as you wish? Which is it?
It's crazy how many people in the Lds religion believe in Chad? Why is. That? Why are Lds in particular?
Thank you for not bashing the beliefs of Latter-day Saints and any other religions on your platform. That shows true character. I’m grateful you don’t try to encourage people from leaving their belief systems or trying to pull them away.
As a faithful member of the mainstream Latter-day Saint faith, it hurts to see and hear people bash our beliefs and the church because of some bad people who started out in the religion, but have since strayed far away from it like Chad and his followers have. As you mentioned, every religion and group of people will have some bad apples in the barrel, but there are also a great many who are good people just striving to live a good life and follow good teachings.
I was glued to this trial 😮
Also ex Rhodesian/South African, now living in the UK.
Will follow the next trial for Lori in Arizona when it starts 😊
Steven hope you continue to heal. It’s great to see you and love your program. Thank you. Take your time and don’t push yourself. Prayers for you.
She mentioned another interview with marks friend a couple of times. Do you know where I can find that
Thank you for praying for our country, South Africa
Play murder games, win murder prizes. Ba-bye Chad.
Thank you for this enlightening discussion.
I am very touched by how many families like yours were traumatized as innocents proximate to this nasty web of deceit Chad spun.
The gift of discernment must be cultivated.
Given Emma and Garth’s beliefs how is Tammy going to react when she is waiting to welcome them.
Total strangers from around the world have shown more love and compassion for Tammy then her own children😪
Thank you for praying for South Africa, we need prayer, only God can save our beautiful Land, 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
What piss poor lawyer that man had. If I had been his lawyer I would said "you don't stand a chance in hell. So lets deal and you tell what went on. He could have saved his own kids some hell
Prior tried to fire him as a client because he wouldn’t plea. He got the best defense money can buy, but there was too much evidence against him to win that case no matter who his attorney was.
Prior didn’t have much to work with. Too much evidence against Chad and his defense relied on Chad to provide one. Prior had nothing.
Chad didn’t want to take Plea early on.
Chad’s attorney was fine. It would be hard to defend his actions with all the evidence against him. You can dress up a pig in the finest silk and it’s still a pig.🐷
Prior was retained as council for an impossible case to defend. He wouldn’t take plea deal if it involved pleading guilty for Tammy. Instead Chad decided to sit silently while prior defended. Refusing to take any accountability at all for his actions. He got the lawyer he deserved.
3:21 jj was brother to both tylee and colby, same as colby wasn't just tylee's brother.
Only two of Tammy's kids lied for Chad. The other three were nowhere to be found. So, using any excuses for Emma and Garth's lies other than Chad's brainwashing, isn't honest.
I'm more bothered about their blameless victims not experiencing nature- or anything else!- again.
I agree, who gives a rats that Lori and Chad will never experience the wonders of nature
Julie Rowe sure is quiet!!
Saying "every religion does it" is not an excuse. It is not a reason. Why can't LDS members just take a look at themselves and see what in their ideology may have led to this. Instead of giving excuses. There ARE people in LDS who are considered above God's Law. This is a fact. And Chad just proclaimed himself and Lori above God's Law. Small step for evil. What other christian group claims that?
it is a cult, period
All religions are cults!
Love Bernadine! I saw your Interview w Lauren.
I remember her also very interesting to listen to 👍
Thanks for praying for South Africa!
Good interview, a lot of real important information regarding just following anyone for any kind of leadership
Praying for Africa!. Too much greed and exploitation in this world. This needs to be the year that good wins and greed loses!
Love you Bernadine. Thanks for sharing your story and insights.