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"The Restoration".... CLAIMED restoration

Hello from Provo.

Is the guy who does The Cultural Hall a member? I thought he was, but at one time he left?! Or is this a different Cultural Hall?

First 2 years of your show everything just fell in your lap. This year it's hot coffee spilling in your lap. Again and again. 😮

Welcome back to mama Pynakker. Praying for your continued recovery. ❤

Watched you last night and was curious, so watched you live tonight. When I watch a live, I like to come back to comment, ie feed the algorithm. Keep up your good work.

Thank you for this discussion. I have a strong testimony of the truthfulness of the Gospel and the Book of Mormon. Eventually all truth will be revealed (D&C 76: 5-10) Until then, we get to listen and ponder each others ideas and opinions😂

Forget Burrows Cave who is the baddie in Great Scott's Cave! I don't think I've ever seen Nehemiah speechless. in 2024 their is no solid evidence for the BOM. The aliens are here and still no sign of the Nephites. :(

Fantastic episode with Scott. I dig his History channel show

That was so very sweet, putting your mom on the show ❤

Nibley

BYU is the looser. Having balanced opinions is vital for a good life. BYU will lose. LGBTQIA do not harm anyone.

Like Elder Holland, I’ve been shocked by the indoctrination on LGB and gender at BYU for several years. I was so relieved when Reese was hired and hoped to see change. Thank you for bringing this good news. Your use of the term “playbook” is silly. Church leaders don’t follow each others “playbook.“ if you’re saying church leaders historically try to keep doctrine and institutions pure, then yes. Obviously. That’s literally what their job is.

Scott. An LDS Deacon is basically an altar boy. 😊 Love your work.

I think several of Wayne's collection of artifacts are forgeries as well. I've seen several of his collection and they just aren't that impressive, similar to the ones we saw here.

The hand sign on Jesus and native is Ameslan for I love you. Ridiculous fakes.

Fred and Ethel Mertz

This guy at the bottom ruined the last interview… hope he doesn’t do it this time lol

I dream of being handsome like Scott when older

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I’m a fan of Scott.

As someone involved tangentially with the beginnings of FAIR, alt.religion.mormon, SHIELDS and the AOL CHAT rooms that all these people Kerry is referring to where they originally hung out - I +1 his opinion of Julianne - she's awesome. I didn't attend that first conference because I was in KS/MO and it was too far (I did get the published articles), but Utah was good and I made the next 10 or so conferences. We sat with John Tvedtness one day at a conference and discovered that he and my father served at the same time in the same mission - I was also there when Brent Metcalf brought his pictures of the Scrolls. Such a fun time at the very beginning of this org. A time when the Apologetics was mostly dealing with Evangelical attack, which really was a joke, it was very doctrinally based - One of the best ways I learned the gospel was reading the FARMS review of books when they dealt with arguments of Evangelicals through the BOM, Bible, etc.. It was amazing. I also recall that John Dehlin came onto the FAIR mail list early on when he describes his issues being called to be a seminary teacher, he was arguing with people like Kevin and Julianne and others about a great number of things, he was clearly upset, in his initial pissed off phase, but I remember him being extremely shallow, unable to handle arguments, dismissive of extremely capable people - An impression that I believe has shown to be very true all these years later and even when he burst onto the scenes. Here is a link to the alt.religion.mormon conversations. www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.religion.mormon&y=0&r=0&p=1

What kind of arguments does FAIR provide that invalidate the critics' arguments? Seems this video doesn't even go there. Just sounds like blind adherence to authority and it only supports my scepticism. Kerry, sorry, but you don't strike me as an intelligent person. You can barely string two words together. I would have thought the people behind FAIR would have at least been somewhat persuasive. Gonna have to give you a thumbs down;)

BYP’s expectation for LDS Apologetics is more in line with Hugh Nibley-who invited research and study.

I’m glad I never had a desire to go to BYU. MSN and definitely believe in vaccines.

Did j golden have stock??

I took a class on evolution at byui, I remember the packet, I wish every student would read it. I had a roommate that thought evolution was blasphemy 😂

Howdy, … days late but I wanted to say, welcome to wavelength. I think I caught that you suffer from tinnitus. If so, I wanted to send you some empathy and solidarity.

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Yeah, I watched this last night and I know a lot of names that Kerry shirts mentioned because I was part of FAIR oh10 years ago or so. I left because it became too cerebral for me to keep up with and there was one guy there that really insulted me verbally because of his presumptuous pompous attitude. None of the names kerry mentioned were that person. Great interview loved it !!

Great interview, loved it. Thanks for being on, Kerry! I think you and I were Facebook friends at one point. Yeah, I watched this last night and I know a lot of names that Kerry shirts mentioned because I was part of FAIR oh10 years ago or so. I left because it became too cerebral for me to keep up with and there was one guy there that really insulted me verbally because of his presumptuous pompous attitude. None of the names kerry mentioned were that person. Now I understand more fully why kerry left FAIR and the church But personally, my emphasis is on Christ and the doctrines regarding Christ taught by the church and not on the fallibility of prophets.

Very interesting. Thanks. FAIR and gospel topics essays sealed the deal for me leaving because the best answers available were not very convincing within a fundamental/orthodox viewpoint.

Abominable freemasonry dressed up as a religion 😢😢😢

Is it too controlling?

Let's take that worship a man a step farther. Jesus was a man. Is it possible that Jesus didn't have a monopoly on Christ or christedness. Is it possible that you have Christ in you, or christedness in you and that Christ or christedness have nothing to do with the man Jesus who was born in Nazaeth. Not the mythical Jesus whose birth place was changed to Bethlehem?

I've listend to several interviews with BYP and thought I knew his backstory well, but the level of detail in here about the founding of FAIR was facinating! Thanks for giving Kerry the time to share these facinating stories.

The video is just starting for my but I can say as someone who has been around the subjects there are very few better than Kerry.

This was really good. I was at that FAIR conference when Brent Metcalfe came. He showed me his high resolution photos, they were really good. That incident where FAIR kicked out Van Hale for his Book of Mormon views really rubbed me the wrong way at the time. It had to be around 2009 because I recall talking about it with Van on the way to MHA with Steve Mayfield in Sacramento, I too didn’t like FAIR so much afterwards. Van Hale had been defending the church since the early 1980s and to be disrespected like that was outrageous.

You are more concerned about curing your hurt feelings you got from being rejected. Fair Mormon does more good than damage. Fair Mormon isn’t running people out, they would have been out no matter if fair even existed.

Also when hearing the comments you read, it’s a constant “I wouldn’t send my child to a school that..” yet 99% of college students are likely 18 when they enter & these are adults? It’s so curious to hear parents talking about these students like they’re in junior high and they can influence the principal or community council and they have a choice where they send their child. If you talk to other groups of parents about their kids and where they’re going to college it’s more like “my child is interested in a school that…or My child says they value…” so interesting to hear so many parents speaking on behalf of their adult children, as if they are in elementary school.

I love Kerry!

Interesting that there’s more of a push now than previously. What do you think is making that push? & even for departments like chemistry, which follow a rigid curriculum & sensitive subjects don’t come up? Except evolution, but they don’t pass a letter out anymore? Curious, I know they’ve had a gymnastics coach and current track coach that are not LDS and has there been a football coach too? You mentioned LGBQ issues as one of the reasons there’s a purge. Statistically within a coach’s lifetime, they will have been fellow athletes along side LGBQ or coached LGBQ athletes so do they check Into coaches views or only professors? I’d argue a coach’s influence is greater.

Great discussion. Yep, pretty much there is a scholarly orthodoxy.

Just started reading the new Mormon challenge, it is impressive its arguments against Mormonism.

Great Job!!! Recent Mormon History is the most important era of Mormonism...

@TBYP great show, thanks for the FAIR history

Soooo right that the LDS church is now playing Satan according to THEIR plan of salvation. When I was raising my kids in the church and still believed I made sure to let them know how important free agency is when their friends had control freak parents and their kids were doing things like drugs secretly. I told my kids if they made the wrong choices THEY would have to live with the consequences NOT me. 😂 The funny thing is now I'm out of the church and they are all active members-oldest son is bishop of his ward- but some of my grandkids are slowly pulling away and my kids seem to be accepting of it. 🤗The LDS church thinks the church has a covenant path that totally takes away from what Jesus accomplished on the cross. According to their preexistence Jesus said He would take care of their sins so they wouldn't be forced to live on a covenant path. 😂 That was Satan's plan. God Soooo LOVED the WORLD He sent His ONLY begotten Son to SAVE the WORLD not condemn it.❤️🥰❤️

Thanks!