Thoughts and a Path Forward From the Parkland, FL Massacre | Active Self Protection Extra
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- Friends, please read and abide by the community guidelines in comments. get-asp.com/com.... The 72-Hour Rule has been followed and it’s time to talk about a path forward after the massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, FL. This video will likely frustrate everyone on every side at some level, but I encourage you now with 72 hours to think about it, to really consider and work through what the realities are. Here are my thoughts on the real issues and the real considerations.
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Of all the commentary that I’ve heard - John, yours is the best. I don’t say this to blow smoke your way. I say this because you come at this from a position of love and not fear. It’s indicative of the way we should all think and that is to take the time to leave our egos behind and be starkly honest with the notion that positive changes can be made.
This is so true. His understanding of this tragedy is brilliant and heartbreakingly accurate.
Ditto. I love your last comment about loving eachother well. I fully agree.
Amen.
Thank you John. We appreciate spreading a more thoughtful and respectful plan to your viewers to wait after some kind of tragedy happens. You always have a calm, thought out, explanation of situations and state out your opinion. Appreciate your comments every time bossman.
John I truely appreciate your thoughts and words. As a retired psych nurse I have seen everything you describe first hand year after year. Yes the FBI dropped the ball and so did the community. This young man has been sending signals for a long time. Blaming a weapon for this horific situation is not the answer as we know. We as a community need to be proactive and you are wise to put that out there again. Thank you.
Not many people are aware that Las Vegas hotels have started installing little black boxes at access points to prevent future disasters. My question is why haven't we heard of any schools doing this. Doesn't it seem reasonable to keep the guns out of all schools except for those authorized, any education level. Some would say Vagas can afford it but if every school in the nation purchased them the price would drop significantly. Just thought.
Thanks for being a leader of the sanity movement,
Peter Jurow
Wired published the following article “The Las Vegas Resort using Microwaves to Keep Guns Out of it’s Casino”
John, after watching scores of your videos, I finally have to comment. Not to complain, argue, or correct, but to thank you for your professionalism, respectfulness, and approach. I follow you not only because I like the lessons and videos you share, but more because you display those traits in all your work. Thank you for that, and for sharing your personal experiences, especially in this video. It's refreshing to hear a sound, logical, heartfelt argument devoid of political rhetoric (from either side). Keep up the great work.
This felt like I was at a therapist. Felt good, thanks John.
I've spent almost 30 years as an ER nurse and have witnessed 1st hand the failure of our mental health "care". We've held adolescents for more than 10 days under watch, on a hold and have a court ordered Psych clear them from the ER because no placement was available, ANYWHERE. Great content!
I've experienced this with family. It's terrible.
I agree for 15 yrs 1998-2013 I worked as a healthcare security officer. In that time i spent many weekends and week days on welfare standbys for mental health patients in the ER because there were no beds available in the inpatient psych units. Worse was watching children stuck in adult ER rooms because many of the child psych units closed.
John, you are so well spoken, with excellent points and aspects.
Your delivery is absolutely meticulous, Thank you Sir.
Thanks, Bill. Tried to speak very carefully here.
Great analysis. I really appreciate your logical and evidence-based approach to these topics. Keep up the good work, John!
John, thank you for a well-reasoned and presented assessment of the situation. I rapidly tire of the rabid mouthings of radicals on both sides of the case. Your suggestion of providing both a deterrent and denial of access for soft targets is useful. The ideas can be used for any soft target in our society, but I think the focus should be on schools and other places where our children are.
Spiritual fitness is a real thing. I remember to tell my kids I love them often. Thank you for the reminder.
Thank you for not saying his name or putting up his photo.
It's very important to me.
Active Self Protection Extra I agree with you 100% on this. I am going to send my channel subs to this video.
It's also very important that this person was captured alive. Hopefully, we'll hire the very best criminal psychologists and FBI profilers to better understand, identify, and classify potential threats down the road. We do it with terrorists.
@@ASPextra very interesting way to handle this. I never thought of this before but its a better way to handle this. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks John I really appreciate that you talk about these things. I trust your advice and believe what you have taught in protection of life. I also appreciate you gave real solutions to this problem and not just fake words that do nothing. I get down when I hear about this happening to truly innocent people who do nothing to deserve this suffering and early death. Thanks so much again for all the good you do and please keep teaching true principle that keep us safe and prevent as much sorrow as can be. Thank you John
Thank you John. I agree with you 100% about MH issues and SSRI's. These help! I went through 2yrs of help and use SSRI to help deal with a double tour in Iraq and one in the Stan. If you need help call the crisis line. It helped save my life.
Andrew Bowers thank you so much for your sacrifice and service. It is unappreciated by most people. But having a Warrior type personality, I understand how much you lay down for America more than others. It takes a lot to step into your shoes sir.
Noble Vigilance thank you
Andrew Bowers :)
Fantastic video John, thanks for all you do and keep up the great work!
Great video John, very logical and well thought out. Subscribed and shared on FB. Thanks again
Well said, John. Thanks! Please, let us all pray for our country and those who persecute us as well as for those we know and love. Let's pray for wisdom and protection.
I don't understand our society's need for instant gratification. Why do we demand all the "answers" RIGHT NOW? It takes time to find the facts. Thank you, John, for allowing the dust to settle a bit before commenting. I wish the rest of us (especially the politicians and the media) would take a little time before 'enlightening' us.
Your comments are well thought out. Thank you for sharing them.
Thank you for taking the time to share and speak intelligently over emotionally. I hate when tragedies like this become opportunities for politics. offering free training or maybe include it as optional training to be a state certified teacher would be a great idea.
Just curious. Is there any difference between discussing this and public policy and discussing 9-11 and public policy?
Ignatius not sure
Well said John. Thank you for your frankness and honesty. I hope others on both sides of the issue can reach a common ground and solutions as you have suggested. And I applaud your willingness to contribute to potential solutions of training our educators and administrators to defend our kids. I will add that as much as I’ve read about this tragedy, I have not found much information to understand how this murderer was able to reach the areas within the school unnoticed. I think the level of perimeter security is at best inadequate at most of our school campuses. I know of simple measures local to me...such as adding a gate guard...only recently obtained funding for just the high schools.
It is official, you have entered the extremely small group of people who has a thought process that seems to carry no ego and whose priorities aren't about being right, or well liked, or the expert. You just want to offer some well thought out insight and encourage respectful and open minded dialogue.
So, SO, well done.
Saw this for the first time today. I appreciate and recognize that, John, you are a genuine, stand up, honest man that speaks from the heart. I see God working through you, in a crazy world. Just wanted to say that. God Bless you and your family.
Thanks!
Great thoughts John...your perception of real world solutions balanced with a faith based perspective are what we need to bridge many gaps in America today. Too much talking past one another on any myriad of topics these days. Thanks for all that you do!!
John, I've never heard anyone else ad-lib an analysis as good as this one. Your points on the bump-stock ban, (and how ineffective it was), and your points about mental health were excellent. The BIGGEST point, (and I think the best), is avoiding one side shouting-down the other. It does no good... zero. Starting from common ground starts good discussion. You're very insightful. We all know the answers will not come easily. Thanks, Man.
Thanks Mr. Burns!
Well, my real name is Steve and I'm from Colorado. One other point: The media does not help because different people watch different channels with different presentations, and that's all they go on in their arguments. I'd encourage people to get to the truth, and accept it, then work from there. Thanks again for all your videos. I hope both sides can quit shouting and start using logical conversation. I'm glad most of the comments here are respectful.
This is a great analysis. I had not heard about GVRO until David French wrote about it but it is a good compromise between 2A rights and due process. Thanks for this input.
Please, for the love of life show this video to the entire world. This covers the issue AMAZINGLY.
Thanks!
I didn't expect to get a reply! But in all seriousness, you sum everything up perfectly, and suggest everything in a way that doesn't tread on anyone's views too much. You also put forward a solution, which if anyone does any research into the matter, would actually prevent a lot of violence, and help a lot of people.
John, so well done, appropriate, eloquent, and a bunch of other words that I can't find right now. You are so far from being alone with friends, co-workers, or family struggling with mental health issues. How could it be to lofty a goal for this divided nation to zero in on this aspect of the problem. If only thing could have gone correctly in the field of mental health for this destroyed human, if it can't be his family, this may never had happened. This could be said of the kids that are killed in south Chicago everyday, and their murderers. But the world is full of tortured lives and most of them never make a headline or cause this death and destruction. If just a few more men and women could say they will try to make some difference, with work, education, contact, or at least an effort in their own family then that would make the difference. It must. At least this is what I walk away with from your video.
What Jared said. Thanks for talking about these things. I can feel your emotion. As always, thoroughly thought out and articulated incredibly well. Really appreciate this channel and your good sense. Keep it up.
Spot on brother. Excellent commentary. As a pastor myself, I couldn't agree more, especially with the mental health piece.
I've always like how John emphasized spiritual fitness. An outsider to the gun world would never suspect that's important in our gun culture.
Outstanding John. Thank you for your humble, honest insight. Yes, respectful discourse is a key part of solving this problem. Like you said ALL of us want our children/families to be safe at school, and I would add at places of worship too. So, it's going to take ALL of us to help prevent this from happening again, and it starts with respecting others, differing viewpoints or not. We must learn the lessons, apply them, reassess, adjust as necessary.
Your comments about solutions regarding those who are perceived threats getting evaluated, treated, getting due process so that they can maintain or regain their rights as well as your comments on mental health won me over. Great insight! keep up the good work.
Thanks Brian! Glad you found value.
I suffer from mental health issues. Anxiety and depression, panic attacks, and the cause is still not officially documented. I almost certainly would be dead today if it hadn't been for my medication over the past few years. Finding good ones with bearable side effects has been difficult, but I have had a support system that had my back the whole time. If I ever start to fall, I have built my network of loved ones to save me. And honestly, if giving up my guns would potentially save someone from dying at the hands of my health problem, then it would be worth it. I would like them back at some point, but that is up for a doctor to decide. People also need to keep in mind that therapy is an amazing tool. Drugs can't stand alone forever. Right now, I'm between therapists, but I'm not going to try to live on my 20mg pill every day and pretend like my life is peachy.
Daniel Hoover similar here. Benzodiazepines saved my life then SSRIs stole it again. I never found one with "bearable" side effects. 6 years I tried and 9 of 10 times the sides were FAR worse than any good. Like you said, counselling was FARRRR more beneficial. As is my support network. I threw the SSRIs away 3 weeks ago and life has never been better. Benzos and beta blockers with therapy and family are working amazing. Good luck to you.
I work in a pharmacy and I dispense these kind of meds all day. My infinite curiosity led ne to this field. I wonder about the lives of my patients, as I dispense these meds. I wish both of you the best, in finding whatever will make your life enjoyable and liveable.
Praying for you and your family
Thanks for this John, you got everything spot on. We need to pay MUCH more attention to mental health and implement systems where we can asses if people are stable enough to posses firearms.
Great response. You're a great analyzer.
Analyst bro, analyst. 😭
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/analyzer - bro
Thank you for your insight John. I have an LTC in the state of Massachusetts and would absolutely take a class to carry in school. I agree that mental healthcare is a huge issue that I pray gets fixed. God Bless brother!
Unfortunately, even if the school had armed security, if AR15’s were banned, etc., there is still no way to guarantee these incidents won’t happen.
you're correct there's no guarantees, the solutions are being suggested as a way to mitigate the problem. Try thinking a little bit less black and white and look at some subtleties.
seth tenrec this is really a none issue. A tragedy yes, an issue no.
there WAS an armed guard
I was wanting to say what you just said, we all need to be helping in this way you have discussed, may we all proceed accordingly and do the work we are each called to do.
Thanks John for setting a great example.
John, most people dont say SSRIs make normal people murderers. It CAN increase the risk greatly in people who are susceptible to violent tendencies. It says that on every insert for these drugs. Are you telling me you as a range instructor know more than clinical physicians?
I am telling you that I know more than almost anyone who isn't a clinical psychiatrist about SSRIs. Seriously. And warning labels on all drugs are for ANY known side effects of ANY severity and ANY frequency. And when they cause mood swings they're almost always suicidal, not homicidal, and almost always immediately upon loading of the drug. They're simply not present upon stabilized usage. Simple as that.
Active Self Protection Extra I Will agree with you it ticks me off too when people just say these drugs CAUSE homicidal tendencies in anyone who takes them. It just feels like you didnt acknowledge the fact that in people with certain cases of extreme schizophrenia they can cause an increased risk of violence. It is more rare. Especially compared to the amount of suicidal tendencies in those tsking SSRIs.
No disrespect meant sir, im a big fan of your channel. And i know if I made a comment about something to do with self defense or something that i was mistaken about you would make sure to correct me so others can also learn. Keep it up and God bless ✌
Janelle McKinney I think it would just be dishonest to say they do not factor whatsoever in violence for people already susceptible that end up on them. Even if its super rare, like most people i know would probably hurt themselves not another innocent person. That doesnt mean there arent super rare cases just because its not common. There is a scary theme though if you look at the amount of psychos and mass shooters there is a scary re-occuring theme with mood altering drugs.
During my nursing career, I held a psychiatric/ mental health professional certification/ designation. I also worked as a researcher on a clinical trial with an SSRI which is very popular now. Therefore, I concur with everything John said about mental health. This case is such a tragic loss because someone actually noticed his behavior risks and called the FBI. Praying for everyone involved. Also concur with comments about the breakdown of the nuclear family unit and the lack of a respect for the value of human life.
I love your level head. Great video as usual.
This is by far the best 24:31 I have spent today...this week really. Thank you so much for saying what you did.
Thank you for speaking from the heart, I can tell it was a little difficult for you, there is a huge mental health problem in this country and yes it's horrible that the people who need help slip thru the cracks. & I agree 100% that banning guns will not solve anything. We need to allow teachers and faculty to conceal carry on campus - with the correct training, if there was even 1 other person with a firearm there that day the body count could have been a lot lower... thanks john, keep up the good work.
@Active Self Protection Extra ... I found your channel a month or so ago and have been watching a lot of your videos. This one from 3 years ago was recommended to me. ... I so appreciate you and I knew there was just something about you I liked. 🙌 Now I know brother. God bless you!!
I think most will agree this process needs to start at home. The nuclear family has deteriorated and this has contributed greatly to catastrophes of this sort. We need moms and dads who are engaged. We need to stop trying to be our children's best friends, and start being responsible parents. Teach your children respect for authority and the value of life. EVERY life is important. God created everyone equally, and loves everyone. He hates our sin, but loves the sinner. We have so many fatherless homes. Studies show children need a father. I know that's not popular in today's society, but it's true. The Bible says " spare the rod and spoil the child. " That doesn't mean you should beat your children, but they have to understand actions have consequences. We need to realize the value of a family. It's an uphill battle, but we have to start somewhere. I say we start at home.
spot on brother
Really good stuff, John. Thanks for being a little vulnerable here, as well. Your thoughts are rational and not emotionally driven. You are spot on that we need to find common ground with the "other side" so we can have civil conversations. Mental health system in the US needs a lot of work and having well-trained, licensed CCW teachers in our schools and more police/armed security would be a deterrent to these types of attacks.
Thank
You for the video youngster, I'm used to the old guy!you know the old guy that looks like you with the beard? Donn
Thank you! John, for your adult, heartfelt discussion on this difficult subject at this difficult time.
That's awesome media needs to follow the same steps
Eloquent and considered thoughts. I agree completely with the idea of starting from the common ground of keeping our kids safe. If we can all approach this with the calm, open generosity you showed here we have hope of making real, meaningful progress to solving this without the knee-jerk reactions that have become so common in this debate. Very well done.
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A new Job Title!!!
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Man John, this the best beat and most touching take I've seen on this issue since it started. Thanks for sharing your story and thoughts with us.
Thanks so much for the encouragement Michael; I really appreciate it. Hope you have a great day!
Get rid of gun free zones
Allow those that already carry to do so
Give incentives and compensation to those that seek further training
Better our system to find those red flags that where missed
Concealed carry of course, and possibly not allow off body carry just because its a school and kids are nosey
Exactly! While they are at it, give incentives for doctors going in to psychiatry. If we don’t have enough psychiatrists and our country is only getting more mental health problems by the day, then it will only continue to get worse.
Make sure the people who are going to carry guns by our kids are competent enough to not leave their firearm on the toilet, and aren't cowards who won't face the threat when lives other than their own are on the line.
I've never read or responded to so many comments on a video before, John. Thank you so much for the forum and the genuine morality combined with actual wisdom. Agree with you 85-90 %, not bad! 😁😁
if your suspended from school or fail to graduate you should not be able to buy a gun until your 23 years old. Most employers wont hire you with out a high school diploma. its time to make people with minor brushes with the law prohibited possessers of fire arms. stop letting bad guys buy guns .
brian tomazi. What if a school expels (I imagine that's what you meant) a student for wrongthink?
brian tomazi so if I get a misdemeanor no gun? Lol
Dude I work at a gas station, I accidentally sold alcohol to a minor because I thought the drink was an Arizona Tea, not a four loko. Cops came in and gave me a court date. I still work at the gas station but I’ve been robbed 3 times, I now bought a gun to defend myself against armed robbers, but you don’t think I should have the right to do so?
You are so well spoken and so rational about this issue that I was moved to tears at the end. Thank you so much!
Glad to help David!
The guns have always been there, something else has changed. We have a social breakdown problem, NOT a gun problem...
Family values & holding our youth accountable must be strengthened. News Flash.. The Government can’t fix that, YOU have too.
The government does need to fix that, there's no reason that people with mental issues like this should be able to legally buy a gun, it's only pure greed from the gun industry and their puppet the NRA that allows that, Trump administration allowing psychos to purchase weapons.
Triston actually funding is needed for mental health issues, and government can help with that.
seth tenrec "Trump administration allowing psychos to purchase weapons"
Are you referring to the Obama gun ban that would have prevented people on social security who need help handling their finances from purchasing firearms? That is not a mental health diagnosis and falls far short of being adjudicated mental defective.
@seth tenrec You clearly didn't watch the video. Or you didn't process it. Please watch again. Objects do not injure anyone.
Medical malpractice kills more people in the US than firearms. Should we ban medicine? We need to work hard to eliminate the aberrations, but we need to recognize that they are aberrations.
States with higher rates of firearms ownership have lower rates of crime.
So the "puppet" NRA is reducing crime. How does that jibe with your world view?
FightlessFighter. In the 1700s people traveled by boat or horse and communicated with quill pens and manually-operated printing presses. "It is the current year."
The people had the same types of firearms that the military did.
You are awesome! Thank you for acting with integrity. You are a great example of a leader we need in this world.
Here’s an honest thought I had while I was watching your video and thinking back on this event.
With the rise of the non-denominational megachurch, more and more people outside of Christ are lured into these more relaxed “worship” spaces. Their message puts more emphasis on Jesus as a cool friend and God as a cool father who is there when you need him and turns his back when you want to party.
These places are not salt and light. They are Christian convenience stores where you can pick up what you like and dismiss the parts you don’t. These places are not the distinct, holy groups of Christians called for in the 1st century founding of the church.
When reasonably smart people are shown “church” as not meaningfully different than the life they’re in, they will choose to stay out. Why join there when it’s just like my life now but with more expectations to give a contribution to the band up front?
The biggest periods of growth in church history were when they were plainly different than everyday life. Not easy to slip in and out. Actually taking care of widows and orphans. Less emphasis on a superstar “pastor” and more on the God of the Bible.
We need a renewed emphasis on church as distinct from everyday life. People will seek that out and it will give us something to tell others about. Not just, we’ve got a band and free coffee.
More true, dedicated, peace-loving Christians. More inherent moral goodness. Less political correctness. Less crime.
Our nation certainly needs more of the kind of follower of Jesus who is the real, authentic, devoted kind and less of the casual, Sunday morning kind. I will agree with that on lots of levels.
Amen
I am atheist, and of good moral character. I think it is more about people reaching out and being kind to one another. You don't need god for that, you need courage. Just my 2 cents.
Really great words John, really enjoy hearing everything you talk about on your videos. Keep up the good work and God bless you.
John , just a personal question. Is there a reason you wear your ring on your right hand ring finger?
It’s a reminder of what God expects of me. From a trip to Israel I took in 2012.
Active Self Protection Extra very cool brotha. Respect.
what about the cop that showed up at the school when the shooting was going on , then did nothing for the last 4 of the 6 minutes of the shooting ? they haven't released that video yet but apparently the officer in question has resigned ...
Kevin Olesik hand gun v ar15....
but what did the students have ? ...
Totally agree with everything you said John. Mental health does need to be taken very seriously, especially in children where mental illness has the highest likelyhood to throw someone off a course of success in their later life, where it will just multiply in severity.
As adults, we can often times look past tough times and keep ourselves out of mental illness. For children, this isn't a possibility. If they fail a few years in school becasue they're depressed, the world crushes them in pressure which only makes it worse.
Great video John. Glad someone like you is out here telling people an alternate, moderate perspective on the gun debate. Have a great one.
A bit off topic but still, I miss your old beard, it looked better in my opinion....
It might come back at some point.
Eik Horn he's doing a play. I think he plays Farve in Super Troopers , the musical. Joking.
It's just different.
Thanks John. Great Video. Great points on both sides of situation. I will be showing this video to my family. Keep up Awesome work you to. God Bless You!
You get it REALLY get it
THE BEST WELL SPOKE, HONEST, FROM THE HEART AND SO MANY MORE.
I THANK YOU.
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Really appreciate you sharing your perspective John. I applaud you for utilizing the 72 hour rule and wish others did this as well in order to make accurate inferences etc.. This has helped me understand that people on both sides need to stop talking past each other, I have been guilty of this. I agree with your thoughts on needing more psychiatrists and needing an ease of access for those who do need help. I think teaching faculty members in schools to defend their students and themselves is a quality idea, however I know many are afraid of this. Hopefully we can find some common ground as like you said we all want the same thing.
God bless
John. Thank you. It has been a long time since I have felt understood and advocated for with regard to mental health. We don't see eye to eye on the issue of access to firearms but your thoughtfulness reminds me that there is such a thing as meaningful clash.
Thank you for your service.
Thanks! Glad you felt understood and advocated for.
Thank you John. I honestly don't comment a lot on any video ever, but I think you just responded to an atrocity like this in exactly the way that we are called to do as Christians, and just as people in general. Thank you very much for this.
Very well said John. Incredibly well thought out and articulated. You have even made me think about some things differently. Thank you! God bless bro!
I just started my firearm training. Protect ourselves and others 🙏🏾
Prior to this video I knew you were a well educated person on things you spoke about. Watching this video has gained you every bit of my respect and I agree with absolutely everything you’ve said in this video. This is a touchy subject because I live close to the school and I have friends who were there in this shooting and seeing everyone trying to push gun control and ignore the underlying issues that you need to research to realize is terrible. People are ignoring the serious problems like mental health while attempting to push things like gun control which will just make the problems worse.
John, thanks for your service. I think a lot of what you said about the individual is speculative (only in a sense of not being in the young man's head), appropriate and spot on. It's neither devils advocate, nor a persecution. But an open ended thought on what really happened. I would love for my locality to explore some options that others are, with the proper training from the proper people. Keep up the good work!
You’re absolutely right both sides are just having a shouting match when we should be working together to form affective solutions. Great video John!
This is why this channel is one of my favourites. Great thoughts and good points in light of this awful event.
Thanks.
John, got to say yours is the best response and suggestion for a path forward that I have seen anywhere. Will share this video and hope it sinks in around the country. Left Right or middle all could find common ground in your comments. Well said. Well said.
I appreciate what you have shared with us ... I have learned so much from you . You are so informative in so many subjects ... Thank you
Thank you for this obviously heart felt message. It is so sad to see the situation politicized in the news with special interests pursuing selfish agendas. Discussing mental illness in this country seems taboo, your views and observations are spot on!
Thank you. You have shared a perspective and opinion that I believe is respectful and plausible. As a former paramedic, firearm owner and someone that has found relief at times through the use of SSRIs I would just like to say thank you.
Thanks so much for the encouragement Jon V; I really appreciate it. Hope you have a great day!
You always have very clear & informative ideas in place. The 72 hour rule is great. No need to spread anything false. I think these talks help a lot of people get their own ideas in line; even if there isn't 100% agreement. Good on ya, sir. Unfortunately, it sucks you're doing so many of these lately.
Thank you for your work John! This was a great video and reminder of how we should strive to carry ourselves moving forward. I wish there was a way to have a very frank and open discussion regarding this matter, but I am having a hard time picturing that moment.
Me too. It seems most people have already decided exactly what they think is best and aren't considering alternative viewpoints.
A disgrace to humanity. Deserves death penalty, not even life imprisonment without parole. His one decision altered the lives of so many innocent people.
I don't comment often, but this is spot on. Thank you John.
Oh my goodness! This is exactly what I have been saying for some time now. If you know someone has mental disorders, they should have their guns removed. Whether it be temp or perm. I work in a special needs school in Florida similar to a school this guy went to before he went to Parkland. He had emotional behavioral disorders (EBD) and, in my opinion, should not have had access to firearms. I work with kids like him and know how they react to certain issues, and they can be very unstable.
You have a good channel. I like how you keep things level, compassionate, and to the point. I thank you.
I agree with you wholeheartedly of what you said. It is refreshing hearing some sense coming from somebody, and not hear heartless nonsense on the news or media. I wish more people could see it from your perspective. Your a good man John.
Thanks for the encouragement!
I take a SSRI for anxiety, I wouldn't be violent without them, admittedly, but I function on a level that I just wouldn't be able to without them. They have saved my life. I would never deny or shame anyone for medicine they take for a physical illness, this is no different. I'm loving the swing towards being really open about mental health. When I first got ill last year I took the decision to be really open about how I felt I was so surprised how many people were relieved to be able to talk to someone who understood. So that's my mantra now - be open if you can, it's just so important that we talk.
Awesome!
Thank you. :) I understand that you've made videos about things like this before but just to reaffirm your statements are good every now and then. We all gotta work together through this. It has already happened. We can't do anything about the past. We just gotta keep moving forward and keep covering our ASPs
Thank you. You have put thoughts into words in a good way. You have identified a way of determining direction.
Strong arguments bro. Of all the people on RUclips who made a video about this, I like your proposals the best. What we are doing definitely does not work.
Agree with you on basically all of this. Love you so much brother and I pray the Lord is building up people from this.
It is refreshing to hear what I consider to be a truly objective take on this situation. I’m interested to hear your take on the new information about the armed officer that did not act. I’m very torn about expecting someone to run toward an AR with bad intentions, but was that not his job?
I hope we as a community can convey that most important point; If turning in every firearm I own would put a stop to this, guaranteed, I wouldn’t hesitate. I wish those on the other side of this argument would see that there is no sliver of a chance that would be effective. It would only make us all less safe.
So let us all avoid these high emotions and show some empathy. You can see why someone who operates on compassion alone would think that making this gun disappear would solve it all. Can you calmly convey to them why it won’t?
Thank you for all of your constant wisdom, imagination and consequently advanced learning to backup my voyage to progressively more consciously aware in addition to spiritually connected.
Great heart felt video. You and your loved ones suffering from any mental illness are in our prayers.
Thanks!
👍👍👍Excellence, I do love your programs. Thanks for sharing your views John.
One of the things i appreciate most about you John is that you can live in a way where spirituality and reason are by no means exclusive. you may well be the most centered voice in the pro 2a community. keep doing the work you do.
well said!
Even thought I don't agree with some things you said I appreciated the candid talk and thoughtful discussion. Be blessed!
Excellent and thoughtful discussion. Thank you for the most-balanced perspective I've seen yet on this issue.
My condolences go out to all involved in that shooting. I command you for how to bring this topic as hard as it is for everybody, awareness of the chemical imbalance it's a hard folder to open. But regulating paperwork and attaching it to the pharmacy aspect of it will make a difference. Those family members and members of society that can take note and bring it forward and saying there's a problem that should have been enough.
John - I’m just going to say it... YOU NEED TO RUN FOR US CONGRESS. Washington needs more voices of reason like your. Excellent discussion.
DON'T YOU PUT THAT EVIL ON MY HEAD!! ;) "If nominated I will not run. If elected I will not serve."
How annoying that the best people are the ones who don't want to run. Says something about the system.
John, very thoughtful and moving analysis. As a former LEO, I will add that local LE must bear its share of responsibility in this instance with the FBI simply based on the sheer number of interactions they had with this subject. I only wish at least one of those responding officers, who I am sure had substantial awareness of this boy's "frequent flyer" status had thought to go the extra mile to try to get him some help. Perhaps they did but it just has not come to light yet.
One thing that I am almost certain you are aware of by now (revealed officially on 2/22/18) is that there was in fact an armed school resource LEO on campus at the time of the event. Inexplicably, 54 year old Deputy Scott Peterson, who has resigned as of today, chose to take up a position outside the school and not enter nor intervene, despite his training to the contrary, according to an official statement by Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel today.
I truly don't know what to think about this officer's failure to act despite what seems to have been clear knowledge that innocents were being killed and that it was his job to try to stop it. Ironically, press reports tonight indicate that the ex-Deputy has requested police protection for himself and his family apparently due to fear of reprisals from families and friends of the dead. This is one of those pieces of information that is important, but you really wish you did not know, especially if you've been a cop and know what he was trained to do versus what he did. I suppose that to stop a bad guy with a gun, we need a good guy AND a gun, and in this case, our "guy" wasn't up to the task. I keep praying some fact will come to light that will show why he could not go in, but I'm not that hopeful. I don't envy him having to explain this.
I join you in your concern for the issues of mental health you outlined, and in prayer for the victims and wisdom and guidance for our policy makers. Best wishes.
His failure to act wasn't known when I made this. I am just sickened by the thought that he was there and had the means to stop this atrocity and didn't.
Active Self Protection Extra Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that according to police sources, at least two other Broward deputies may have remained outside, besides Peterson. The police sources are apparently, Coral Springs officers. This as of Feb. 24, 2018.
I'm in the next county to the south, Miami-Dade. I'm hearing as of today that there were three additional Broward officers who took up positions behind their cars with guns drawn, but who did not make entry, for a total of four BCSO officers remaining outside. Apparently this sparked a complaint from the responding Coral Springs officers who DID go in as soon as they arrived, and who claim that the BCSO guys remained outside even after they arrived and made entry.
Apparently this sparked a heated confrontation between the Coral Springs town manager and Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel on the evening of the 15th at a vigil for the victims. Local news says today that a report on the responding officer's actions is expected to be released sometime next week.
Yea spot on assessment coupled with compassion for those with problems that can lead to this kind of atrocity. I too knew a vet who once pulled from under a bridge did well for a while then committed suicide, not a "bad guy" but just probably in a way didn't want to change or somehow couldn't as a result of mental disorder. Really broke my heart. This condition is certainly a contributing factor that can lead to violence. God bless for pastoral support in your community, we need more of this........
*_"No one in America is going to come together on control, Chris,”_** Pollack said.* *_“You didn’t say one thing about fixing it!”_** he exclaimed. **_“We can get together on school safety. But when you polarize it, this event and every other media - we don’t care about gun control right now. That’s a big issue in the country and you’re not going to get everyone together on it.”_* *_“You’re just talking about gun control, which is going to just give you more ratings,”_** he added. **_“Today it’s not about guns, it’s about the safety in our schools. And that’s what you ask Gov. Scott about and I got to listen to that at my house.”_* *_“You didn’t say one thing about fixing it!”_** he exclaimed.* *_“We can get together on school safety. But when you polarize it, this event and every other media - we don’t care about gun control right now. That’s a big issue in the country and you’re not going to get everyone together on it.”_*
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