The one thing that is next to impossible to replicate in basically any song from Siamese Dream is the feedback during full stops, which according to Billy came from a pawn shop beater that would roar like that when he stopped playing. He literally turned a bug into a feature. Those two (James and Billy) don't get enough respect for their ingenuity.
You forgot the prologue about buying the cheapest, least shielded, dump of a guitar to use for optimal breakup. Great video, by the way. Corgan notoriously did weird things to get the sound we love him for. Im convinced we will figure out who killed Kennedy before learning how to replicate the tone and effects in Drown.
2 things, what's James bond villain tuning because that's brilliant and I have always just played it in standard tuning but I knew I was missing something and what are your thoughts on the "squelch"? I almost replicated it with a combo of a very loud amp/harmonic/face the amp/cover the pick up with my palm/magic feedback
Love this song. Also, mayonnaise is my favorite condiment and Patrick Star asked if mayonnaise was an instrument. The wall of distorted guitars that comes in in the beginning and the controlled feedback are outstanding. I have this, Space Boy, Sweet Sweet and Luna as a four shot in my playlists. “I go along just because I’m lazy”. Wow, couldn’t have described every relationship I’ve had.
This is a top-notch lesson! I like that you clearly explain the strumming patterns which drastically improved my experience when playing this song. It inspired me to learn the whole song and eventually made a cover of it. Thank you very much indeed for making this lesson. 🙏🙏
As a 14 year old guitarist, this was my tone nirvana. I had the tab book, and bought a soviet small stone, a strat plus (with Lace Sensors) and a JCM800. Still a sonic cacophony.
I love this.. you helped me get back to a point where I play daily and strayed a band in the last year.. but this is gonna be for an open mic I’m doing… first gig for playing guitar in about 15 years…. Thanks man you really help me
That’s awesome man! Love hearing stories like this, makes my day as this is literally what the channel is all about! Good luck with the open mic gig 🤘😀
@@LetsPlayAll I feel like this channel is kind of a community that has encouraged and taken me back here… just hope to keep improving. Thanks again though…. Such a big help
@@BrianOboylemusic that’s great to hear Brian, I always wanted it to feel that way to people watching and hopefully feel some inspiration to pick up the guitar again or keep playing but mainly just to feel that this stuff is attainable and fun! Lots more to come mate 😊🤘
@@LetsPlayAll dude I’m definitely not alone in saying you helped me a ton…. I feel like there’s a community of great musicians that love the stuff I do and it’s been helping me become a better player and most importantly put me on a path to try and gig again…
Best song ever! Very emotional. I always did the harmonic on the 4th fret 6th string with half step or less of bend and release (it sounds like a little dive from the whammy bar to me actually). Cheers, and thank you for this great upload!
This is a fantastic song! James' tuning is unconventional, but playing around on it I've found some really interesting things myself. I have a guitar that's tuned like Yvette Young's guitar (F-A-C-G-A-E), only I tune mine a full tone down (Eb-G-Bb-F-G-D) and just a couple of days ago, I've worked out a whole song that kind of reminds me of Mayonaise. It has a similar vibe, so I'm fighting the temptation to have that break towards the end of the song with only one clean guitar and vocal playing before the whole band kicks in again into the climactic outro. I mean, it's a similar vibe, but I don't need to copy the whole song structure haha! Great lesson! Typical Billy to play a solo with a lot of bends. I mean, why not? It sounds great! I also must complement your tone. The Benson Germanium fuzz sounds fricking awesome! I don't have adjectives enough for it, I just love it! I actually get a similar tone in my own rig playing through Old Blood Noise Endeavors Excess V2 with gain at 9 o'clock. It helps to have the amp set clean-ish, at the edge of breakup. EDIT: I just figured out... If you play fret 5 on the 6th string and fret 5 on the 5th (or 4th) string, you have a power chord (root and 5th). If you play fret 5 on the 4th (or 5th) string and fret 4 on the 3rd string, you also get a power chord (rood and 5th). So it's easy to build chords, you just play those roots and let the highest two strings ring out. On the highest three strings the D major chord shape gives you a minor chord. I find it a bit difficult to find different chord voicings on this tuning as I do on Yvette Young's tuning,. it feels like there are fewer options. This one is more suitable for open chords, I think.
OMG I just so happen to be playing along with you on that same exact Fender Tele with the lace sensors! I've never seen anyone else with one and I've had mine for 23 years! My jaw dropped when I saw it! Good video man
Pumpkins psychedelia was my favorite of all the bands of that era, transports me back. I'm probably not even aware how in debt I am to it, just the musical universe I wanted to be in.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but I thought the harmonic at 19:32 came from muting the strings hard enough to touch the pickups. Smashing your palm on the strings between the pickups so the strings hit them. Works when I do it.
No it was microphonic feedback from the cheap guitar Billy recorded this with, it's well documented,, but if you can get it another way (harmonic etc) then go with your bad self mate :-)
Good video but i listened to the original track and the octave slides at 17:13 seem to be different then how you have them. Im pretty sure its only repeated 4x and the higher ones are the 2nd and 4th repetitions. I could be wrong though, correct me if i am wrong
It really does sound better in Iha’s alternate tuning. I learned how to play it in standard, which works, but fretted notes just don’t sound the same as open notes. I know the leads well enough, but I definitely want to experiment w/ this tuning.
I’ve been learning the intro in standard, just tuned everything half a step down and it’s the same pitch as the recording… but just discovered that it’s not the way it’s meant to be played and I can’t find chords that work with standard tuning and barred chords are sounding a bit strange. Any chance you can help lol. Tabs in finding day to start on an A chord when the singing comes in but that’s too high compared to the rest of the tuning. I’m so far into getting used to the way I’ve been playing it that I’m begrudgingly trying to come around to relearning it :( any suggestions?
I found a even better tuning for 7 string to play the intro and let that high F ring out at the same of that D: Eb Bb Bb Gb Bb D F 4:40 you should add thirds in there
This instead is a way on how to play both intro and outro on one instrument (at the time I didn't came up with the tuning mentioned above): ruclips.net/video/BBt3GKEeC6g/видео.html
Great tutorial on one of my all-time favorites! Thank you for that!.... But there is one great SP Song I haven't seen any tutorials on the web yet....pleeeaase..-> "here is no why" ...you'll be my all-time hero ;)
My all time favourite pumpkins song. ❤️ Thank you.🙂 P.S. maybe i’m just an idot, but your guitar neck seems to be little off alligment. Noticed that is high e string is more near the edge than the low E. 😅
Excellent video. I want to add that I think it is not a harmonic that sounds in the cuts of the rhythm guitar, I think it may be the noise generated by stopping playing with a strong gain in the fuzz. EITHER! push hard with your right hand on the strings on the pickups. Be that as it may, there's a lot of mystery to the Pumpkins' sound. Please! upload Starla's explanation! 🙏🏼
This for Billy's part mate - LETSPLAYLAD gets you £10 off too - £89 with that which is a bargain tbh. Based on a big muff but on steroids :-) www.soundladliverpool.co.uk/product-page/hungry-beaver
@@felipesilva6196 yup, just that. It’s a huge sounding pedal, has a mids control too so unlike most big muff types it works on a live band situation too 🤘
Thanks Tom! You want a light phaser tone basically. A two stage phaser like the ehx small stone or jam pedals ripple will do, or if you have one with a mix knob that’ll work too. It’s not in tempo just has a light and slowish sweep. Hope that helps!
Thanks Mark! Well the blue tele has lace sensor pickups in a strat config, which are the same pickups he used in a strat around then. Used the tele for James parts cos it’s great at holding tuning when on weird tunings and also the single coil bridge pickup just nailed the tone to my ears 🤘😀
£10 off code for Soundlad Liverpool "Hungry Beaver" is BEAVERALL - www.soundladliverpool.co.uk/product-page/hungry-beaver
The one thing that is next to impossible to replicate in basically any song from Siamese Dream is the feedback during full stops, which according to Billy came from a pawn shop beater that would roar like that when he stopped playing. He literally turned a bug into a feature.
Those two (James and Billy) don't get enough respect for their ingenuity.
I gave up trying to recreate it so I just pick scrape during the feedback part💀
I guess it's that why we don't hear it in cover much?
@@peacebewuThe band themselves cant recreate it
You forgot the prologue about buying the cheapest, least shielded, dump of a guitar to use for optimal breakup. Great video, by the way. Corgan notoriously did weird things to get the sound we love him for. Im convinced we will figure out who killed Kennedy before learning how to replicate the tone and effects in Drown.
@@_Yep_Yep_ haha I’ve already got a lesson for drown too 😉🤘
Probably my favorite song of theirs. Very well put together, just a classic.
The song is just a well thought out piece. Of music. The drums to everyone in the band. It's a magical song. Great tone. You have it down mate.
thanks Joey!
Bond villain tuning 😂
yeaaaaah 😎😂
haha :-)
Laughed so hard at this
2 things, what's James bond villain tuning because that's brilliant and I have always just played it in standard tuning but I knew I was missing something and what are your thoughts on the "squelch"? I almost replicated it with a combo of a very loud amp/harmonic/face the amp/cover the pick up with my palm/magic feedback
The mmaj7 is strong with this one!
Possibly the best song they ever recorded, along with Starla. Excellent lesson! Thanks!
Man we have the same taste! Starla is in my top 3.
Finally, a tutorial worthy of this epic piece! Hats off to you sir 👏
Thank you so much 😀
It’s incredible how on point the tones are once again! Great job on one of my favorite songs ever! 👏🏻 Made my day 😇
Ah thanks so much! Really appreciate the kind feedback 😀🤘
Wow, you absolutely nailed the tones. Forgot how good this song was. The album of my teenage years.
Thanks!
I learned this song in high school in 97 or 98. I had the album tab book. My favourite SP song for sure.
Love this song. Also, mayonnaise is my favorite condiment and Patrick Star asked if mayonnaise was an instrument. The wall of distorted guitars that comes in in the beginning and the controlled feedback are outstanding. I have this, Space Boy, Sweet Sweet and Luna as a four shot in my playlists. “I go along just because I’m lazy”. Wow, couldn’t have described every relationship I’ve had.
tuning and 'chords' are from heavens. very cool to see finally. learned something new...pitch harmonics...
This is a top-notch lesson! I like that you clearly explain the strumming patterns which drastically improved my experience when playing this song. It inspired me to learn the whole song and eventually made a cover of it. Thank you very much indeed for making this lesson.
🙏🙏
Thanks so much for the kind words and I’m really pleased you found the lesson useful!
You’ve been on fire here lately! By far my favorite Pumpkin’s song. What about some more Sonic Youth?! Thanks again man! Love this channel!
Cheers mate, more SY to come!
SlackerVK has some SY and many more indie guitar swing playthroughs :)
Thanks came here after watching Beef. The show reminded me of how awesome this song is. what a sleeper hit
I love this tutorial, man. New way of thinking about the guitar for James’s part. Thanks for showing us, very cool
You’re welcome mate!
As a 14 year old guitarist, this was my tone nirvana. I had the tab book, and bought a soviet small stone, a strat plus (with Lace Sensors) and a JCM800. Still a sonic cacophony.
I still have the tab book. My wife bought it in the mid-90s and gifted it to me when we started dating a few years ago. Haha! Sonic cacophony.
This is an amazing song, these guitar parts show the skill of Corgan and Iha..
이 튜토리얼이 가장 좋네요. 다른 영상들은 초보 기준에 튜닝도 똑 바로 설명 안해줘서 화딱지나고 자기 맘대로 치는 것도 있고.
Man, i'm glad there are people like you who share knowledge world wide! Congratulations!
You're welcome!
Words can't describe how much I owe you for uploading this tutorial God bless you
Glad it helped!
this video is awesome. More online guitar tutorials should be like this
I love this.. you helped me get back to a point where I play daily and strayed a band in the last year.. but this is gonna be for an open mic I’m doing… first gig for playing guitar in about 15 years…. Thanks man you really help me
That’s awesome man! Love hearing stories like this, makes my day as this is literally what the channel is all about! Good luck with the open mic gig 🤘😀
@@LetsPlayAll I feel like this channel is kind of a community that has encouraged and taken me back here… just hope to keep improving. Thanks again though…. Such a big help
@@BrianOboylemusic that’s great to hear Brian, I always wanted it to feel that way to people watching and hopefully feel some inspiration to pick up the guitar again or keep playing but mainly just to feel that this stuff is attainable and fun! Lots more to come mate 😊🤘
@@LetsPlayAll dude I’m definitely not alone in saying you helped me a ton…. I feel like there’s a community of great musicians that love the stuff I do and it’s been helping me become a better player and most importantly put me on a path to try and gig again…
Best song ever! Very emotional. I always did the harmonic on the 4th fret 6th string with half step or less of bend and release (it sounds like a little dive from the whammy bar to me actually). Cheers, and thank you for this great upload!
You’re most welcome!
I have tried a lot of different teachers, but you manner of teaching is the best.
ah thanks so much Felix!
Siamese dream is just so perfect.
I love this song... one of my favorites for sure. Nice work teaching it!
You’re welcome!
Looking back a bit, I wasn't a big fan of fuzz, but it has clearly changed. Just awesome fuzz goodness here 😀
Same mate, I only really got into fuzz a few years ago, absolutely love it now!
Still maybe one of the greatest songs of all time. My band played this at our school talent show in the 9th grade back in the day.
Sacrilegious. Don't butcher classics.
@@ryfelstone2788 what makes you think… yeah, we butchered it.🤦♂️😫
@@mitchellhughes5180 you should be ashamed. Make a sacrifice to Billy or be punished.
This is a fantastic song! James' tuning is unconventional, but playing around on it I've found some really interesting things myself. I have a guitar that's tuned like Yvette Young's guitar (F-A-C-G-A-E), only I tune mine a full tone down (Eb-G-Bb-F-G-D) and just a couple of days ago, I've worked out a whole song that kind of reminds me of Mayonaise. It has a similar vibe, so I'm fighting the temptation to have that break towards the end of the song with only one clean guitar and vocal playing before the whole band kicks in again into the climactic outro. I mean, it's a similar vibe, but I don't need to copy the whole song structure haha!
Great lesson! Typical Billy to play a solo with a lot of bends. I mean, why not? It sounds great!
I also must complement your tone. The Benson Germanium fuzz sounds fricking awesome! I don't have adjectives enough for it, I just love it! I actually get a similar tone in my own rig playing through Old Blood Noise Endeavors Excess V2 with gain at 9 o'clock. It helps to have the amp set clean-ish, at the edge of breakup.
EDIT: I just figured out... If you play fret 5 on the 6th string and fret 5 on the 5th (or 4th) string, you have a power chord (root and 5th). If you play fret 5 on the 4th (or 5th) string and fret 4 on the 3rd string, you also get a power chord (rood and 5th). So it's easy to build chords, you just play those roots and let the highest two strings ring out. On the highest three strings the D major chord shape gives you a minor chord. I find it a bit difficult to find different chord voicings on this tuning as I do on Yvette Young's tuning,. it feels like there are fewer options. This one is more suitable for open chords, I think.
Thanks mate and love your enthusiastic post! Haven’t tried Yvette’s tuning will have to give it a go 🤘😊
My fav song of all time
Damn Billy and James were absolute geniuses
One of the most beautiful pieces of music ever. So good
OMG I just so happen to be playing along with you on that same exact Fender Tele with the lace sensors! I've never seen anyone else with one and I've had mine for 23 years! My jaw dropped when I saw it! Good video man
Haha guitar bros! Great guitars aren’t they, I only know one other person with one too. Don’t see too many about!
Pumpkins psychedelia was my favorite of all the bands of that era, transports me back. I'm probably not even aware how in debt I am to it, just the musical universe I wanted to be in.
I learned this in standard in the 90s and it’s a bit of a pain to play standard. I gotta try this tuning
Brilliant. Nailed every aspect of this masterpiece.
You are also a stellar instructor.
✌🏻
Thank you so much, really appreciate the kind words 😀
Such a beautiful song. Thanks for breaking this down.
Great tutorial.
My favourite pumpkins tune.. some very unusual chord voicings
THis is one of the best lessons for this song I've seen!
Thanks so much!
The quality of your content always blow my mind. Great lesson again! 🔥
Merci!
You’re welcome Louis! Thanks!
One of my all time favorites
One of favourite songs of all time ❤️
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but I thought the harmonic at 19:32 came from muting the strings hard enough to touch the pickups. Smashing your palm on the strings between the pickups so the strings hit them. Works when I do it.
No it was microphonic feedback from the cheap guitar Billy recorded this with, it's well documented,, but if you can get it another way (harmonic etc) then go with your bad self mate :-)
One of my favorite ever SP songs...always kicks my ass.... ❤️
Awesome lesson.
Hells yeah!!! You have been killing it lately.
thanks mate!h
Well done sir, you NAILED it! LOVE this song!
Cheers mate!
Liked before watching. must be good. love this song
Thanks mate!
Merci beaucoup, c'est mon titre préféré des Smashing, et ça fait des années que j'attendais ce tuto !!! 😱🚀🌝❤️
you're welcome!
Awesome as always homie
Yes!!! Great stuff!
will be great a cover of complete song with both guitars, nice work ty!
Pure gold coming from LPA!!!!
Thank You! Thank You! Superior Teaching- even I can understand it!
Thank god I still have one of my guitars in this tuning from a different lesson because it was a pain to get it in there!
nailed it. spot on mate.
Just discovered this channel!!!! You rule dude!!!
cheers mate and welcome!
I love this song - thanks for sharing.
Great song great video!!! Soma would be great at some point if you haven’t done it yet.
Well done good sir. Well done indeed!!!
I love this song
Yo, I haven't even seen the video yet and this is awesome. Thank you so much.
Hope you enjoyed it!
What an amazing guitar lesson. Thanks.
Thank you sir!
Awesome job man!! Totally nailed it as usual!
Thanks bud!
Good video but i listened to the original track and the octave slides at 17:13 seem to be different then how you have them. Im pretty sure its only repeated 4x and the higher ones are the 2nd and 4th repetitions. I could be wrong though, correct me if i am wrong
Really good tone
It really does sound better in Iha’s alternate tuning. I learned how to play it in standard, which works, but fretted notes just don’t sound the same as open notes. I know the leads well enough, but I definitely want to experiment w/ this tuning.
I’ve been learning the intro in standard, just tuned everything half a step down and it’s the same pitch as the recording… but just discovered that it’s not the way it’s meant to be played and I can’t find chords that work with standard tuning and barred chords are sounding a bit strange. Any chance you can help lol. Tabs in finding day to start on an A chord when the singing comes in but that’s too high compared to the rest of the tuning. I’m so far into getting used to the way I’ve been playing it that I’m begrudgingly trying to come around to relearning it :( any suggestions?
Great lesson! I'm very much a fan of condiments.
Me too!
Fabulous song. Great lesson, thanks
GREAT LESSON!!!🎸👏👏👏
Thanks!
I found a even better tuning for 7 string to play the intro and let that high F ring out at the same of that D:
Eb Bb Bb Gb Bb D F
4:40 you should add thirds in there
This instead is a way on how to play both intro and outro on one instrument (at the time I didn't came up with the tuning mentioned above):
ruclips.net/video/BBt3GKEeC6g/видео.html
Grazie!! Bravissimo!
Love this song!!!!
Great tutorial on one of my all-time favorites! Thank you for that!.... But there is one great SP Song I haven't seen any tutorials on the web yet....pleeeaase..-> "here is no why" ...you'll be my all-time hero ;)
You're welcome! Lots more SP to come! That tunes awesome :-)
Holy Heniz !! Great lesson as always :)
Thanks buddy!
Great stuff!
My all time favourite pumpkins song. ❤️ Thank you.🙂
P.S. maybe i’m just an idot, but your guitar neck seems to be little off alligment. Noticed that is high e string is more near the edge than the low E. 😅
You're welcome! Which one the blue or pink one? :-)
@@LetsPlayAll pink one. :)
As you probably know, it is a easy, 2 minutes, adjusting. 🙂
Fantastic lesson, thank you for this.
Well done!
amazing , great tutorial thx
Absolutely Stella job mate
Thanks buddy!
I from Malaysia nice play bos
Great f'in tune!
Nice!!! Thank you , Sir!!
Amazing, thx for the masterclass
Cheers David, you're welcome!
Beautiful song!!
Just discovered your channel. Subscribed!
What T-style guitar is that first pink one?
Thanks and welcome! It's a Seth Baccus Shoreline T Std :-)
I'll have my fries with mayonnaise this time 😉 That is a solid lesson, didnt know about the tunings 🤔 Beaver sounds so good 👍
Haha, thanks mate! Yea it's a superb pedal, I don't know of a more varied fuzz tbh
Nice choice!
Excellent video. I want to add that I think it is not a harmonic that sounds in the cuts of the rhythm guitar, I think it may be the noise generated by stopping playing with a strong gain in the fuzz. EITHER! push hard with your right hand on the strings on the pickups. Be that as it may, there's a lot of mystery to the Pumpkins' sound. Please! upload Starla's explanation! 🙏🏼
Thanks! Yea it was feedback from a cheap guitar Billy bought at a pawn shop but you can try to replicate that with a harmonic 😀🤘
@@LetsPlayAll 🤘🏼🤘🏼
When you watch him play it live, he starts the solo on the 7th fret on the A - but that's just a trivial observation.
What's that pink guitar you're playing James' parts with?
Seth Baccus Shoreline T Std :-)
Quick question brother: do you use a distortion/overdrive in the fuzz part (Billy's part)? or is it just a high gain fuzz?? Thanks in advance
This for Billy's part mate - LETSPLAYLAD gets you £10 off too - £89 with that which is a bargain tbh. Based on a big muff but on steroids :-) www.soundladliverpool.co.uk/product-page/hungry-beaver
@@LetsPlayAll thanks, will buy. But is that all so NO distortion on Billy's part?
@@felipesilva6196 yup, just that. It’s a huge sounding pedal, has a mids control too so unlike most big muff types it works on a live band situation too 🤘
Not enough compression on that fuzz. Needs more stab. They were using Big Muffs. Fantastic content, my favorite Pumpkins song.
Glad you enjoyed the lesson mate! The Hungry Beaver is based on a big muff circuit :-)
Excellent tutorial. One question, what are the phaser settings I can’t quite get it right. Does it have to be in tempo? Any help would be great thanks
Thanks Tom! You want a light phaser tone basically. A two stage phaser like the ehx small stone or jam pedals ripple will do, or if you have one with a mix knob that’ll work too. It’s not in tempo just has a light and slowish sweep. Hope that helps!
Great thanks a lot, I wasn’t sure if phaser rate needed to be in tempo. Cheers man great video
@@Reesy1366 you’re welcome mate!
Great lesson! Just curious, why the tele? Did Bill not do this on a strat as usual?
Thanks Mark! Well the blue tele has lace sensor pickups in a strat config, which are the same pickups he used in a strat around then. Used the tele for James parts cos it’s great at holding tuning when on weird tunings and also the single coil bridge pickup just nailed the tone to my ears 🤘😀
Everybody plays the song somehow differently... Still not the worst version, bro.
Keep it up
1:01 thats the most tastiest fuzz ever man🤟