An Honest Review of Garten of BanBan 2
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- Опубликовано: 1 июн 2024
- My honest review of Garten Of BanBan2. Please do not harass the creators.
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Music Used (In Order):
Yume Nikki: Dream Diary - Snow Valley
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:50 General Issues
04:54 Voice Acting, Drone, Chase Sequence
08:48 A Few Praises
09:38 Opila & Banbaleena
12:15 Snail
13:23 Cannons & Platforming
14:18 Final Room & Chase
15:39 Conclusion 
Игры
I didn’t know they made a game about fucking school shooters i take it back
(“introvert: a teenager simulator” on steam)
THEY DID WHAT?
Ooo ma gah
Pea shooter?
More like-
SCHOOL SHOOT-
SORRY WHAR
Whaaaat????
Scariest thing in this game is the amount of polygons the characters have
The controller you hold for the entire game has more polygons than the entirety of Mario 64 I think
If your characters have more polygons than the fucking Ink Demon from BATDR, then you shouldn’t be modeling.
Biblically accurate polygons
Its so damn awful, these character designs arent even that complex but its like the devs took connect the dots and put it on hell difficulty
@Jerry 116k, which isn't as much as Mario 64, but still way too much to have on screen the whole time
I love how you can change the game's difficulty via graphic settings. Truly, a feature of the future.
Doesnt poppy playtime kinda have this too lol
@@iimuffinsaur yes. Lower (or higher) frame rate used to ruin how grappling worked
Omgosh... *It's pay-to-win.*
@@Evil_FunRuining_GayPerson setting-to-win
How do you exactly change the difficulty of a game like this? It's linear game full of already scripted events and puzzles, so idk what could be changed.
The fact that Garten of Banban 2 was released only a FEW MONTHS after the first one should've been a dead giveaway that
1) The entire game is an attempt to become a merch-producing machine
2) It's rushed as hell
3) Why is anyone wasting any time on this game
tbf scott pumped out games for FNaF and while 2 and 3 were not the most well crafted from a gameplay loop standpoint in my opinion, they introduced unique ideas, good visuals, and a good story with actual intrigue in the plot. The problem here is that garten of banban is not only not the best for gameplay, it has nothing else to lean on.
Just under two months...
@@EmeraldCrowz
Do note that Scott had inspiration, made and fueled by the fanbase.
Gartem on the other hand...Is just a Poppy playtime deformed twin with various terminal illnesses
@@roberteospeedwagon8178 literally almost 3 months , banban 1 was released on 6th January
edit: nvm im dumb it was almost 2 months
Ahem…
The Funni
Even though we can agree that the second game still has a lack of graphics, very bland chase sequences, and all in all definitely not over the top scary. We all can agree that at least this time it was still a game and also the bird is back.
Bird Up!
the game sucks, but its atleast a game. cant say that for the first one
@@0kr4m GOB 2 is a game that sucks, GOB 1 sucks
Am I the only one who thought garten of banban was a roblox game?
@@TheSillyFrog742 I honestly don't blame you for that
I feel that Garten of Banban would be much better if it ditched the mascot horror trend it's desperately chasing and instead leaned towards a more surrealistic liminal space styled horror, the areas in the game already have this weird Backrooms-esque vibe to it and the monsters look like they are something straight out of a obscure Nintendo 64/PS1 game, if it went with this route I think it actually could've been a pretty decent or maybe even a pretty good horror game.
If it was a parody of horror with this concept, it could have been WAY better. BanBan seems like it wants to be liminal, but just can’t reach it because it’s superglued to mascot horror
liminal space is cringe
stop being afraid of empty rooms, zoomzoom
@@enochsadventures liminal spaces aren't by definition unsettling. And no its not really the fact that they are empty (not referring to people)
the monsters look like if you asked a child to draw a monster
@@hoopsy "red guy with 2 hats have depression"
Garten of BanBan: Free piece of cooked pizza dough with no toppings.
Garten of BanBan 2: $5 piece of cooked pizza dough with nothing but extra olives.
Untrue I love olives and would be find with that
@@CommunistSubRex Olives are a mid-tier ingredient at best
You know, at least with Poopy Playtime, the enemy deaths are really difficult to miss. Huggy Wuggy’s death is something that you almost have to be blind to miss, and Mommy’s death has a set up where you prepare a trap, and it takes her a while between when she gets caught and when she dies
I know this is really petty, there’s no need to say it
Exactly, and then obviously with this game you can’t even process what even happened. From the bird just smacking it’s head and falling down extremely quickly to the green guy just being dead straight away without reason.
@@notsmg3 HE DIED?!
@@notsmg3 um actually, you can see the spider dude staring at you if you backtrack after the girl ban ban gets grabbed by jumbo josh 🤓🤓🤓
@@notsmg3 “um.., the spiders name is actually Nabnab, did you not take a college essay on banbsn lore”🤓🤓🤓
@@GenderedMess Green one isn't dead, he just gets knocked out for a while just like the bird. The literal last chase sequence of the game is using him to kill Banbaleena
to be honest, im fine with the devs using free assests they're fine to use, since not everybody has good modelling skills they need to make a game they want to make, but there's still no excuse for the awfulness of the rest of the game.
yeah using free assets isnt that bad as long as you don’t just mash them together from different creators.
stick to a style and maybe use the free assets as a muse for future models, to help better your designs for e.g. a chair
i still feel like they should be careful with which models- im an artist and the concept of unity is very important in any visual piece, which includes games. alot of the problem with their free asset use is the complete ignorance of making sure they dont look like a patchwork of items
Its precisely games like this that make bad stigma around bought/free assets in games, this does make me frustrated since its a good tool that can speed along the development time. Its just that alot of attention is brought on games like this that dont use it very good...
Agreed, like they could have done so much more yet instead they just make everything prolonged and really boring. Like the part where you have to just go from a long corridor for the birds and to another. Or the extremely boring and long chase scene.
@@ScuttleBugReal that doesn't really matter though
The funny thing is, the FPS problems likely come from the models the Euphoric Brothers made. Fun fact; the drone remote itself has more polygons than the entirety of Super Mario 64.
WAIT WHAT? How in the sweet baby back ribs did they do that?!?
@@Unofficial_Glitch Lack of proper retopology.
Normally in 3D models you go over a sculpt or high polygon model with simpler geometry to capture the details/essence of the model without all the extra polys. It can be incredibly tedious work but is necessary for 3D games and animations to operate properly.
Don't retopologize properly and you get Banban with the billion poly spider.
@@DuskEalain thank you, jeez
@@Unofficial_Glitch No problem!
Now in fairness to the Euphoric Brothers I'd chock this up to ignorance rather than outright malice. As if they intentionally wanted to make their game absolutely destroy computers upon booting there's far easier ways than massively unoptimized character models.
But yes, it's because they didn't simplify geometry. Now at times there are models that even after retopology will be quite large (see the dozens of "2B's ass has more polys than [game]" memes) but those are usually for rather high fidelity or really detailed models (again 2B from Nier, big Soulsbourne bosses, Gravemind for his time, etc.) but for such simple characters I see no need to go beyond 50k-ish polygons for the more "complicated" ones.
pure facts
I wanna add a quick comment about store-bought unity assets- it's not the amount of assets you have, but how they get used. Inscryption was a highly critically acclaimed game that won a lot of awards and a good part of it was the atmosphere it was able to build with its art direction. The thing is though if you look in the game's credits, you'll find that most of the game's 3D assets were licensed pre-made assets from the unity store. The devs were able to use those pre-fabs and alter and utilize them in a way that made for a beautifully haunting, cohesive, and rich atmosphere. Point being, I'll never knock a dev for utilizing these assets as long as it's done with care and attention.
Heck yeah Inscryption! Yeah, I was really surprised when reading the credits. I was like "Really?! Those iconic items were from an asset store?" A little touch-up and atmosphere makes a world of difference.
I agree. It's also worth noting that a lot of indie devs aren't experienced in 3D modelling. Using store assets isn't necessarily bad - it's bad when they get jumbled together in a nonsensical manner where it becomes an issue and lazy. We all remember the "asset flips" littering the steam store a while back.
Yes! As long as they are used well, theres no sense in knocking someone for using them. I mean, they were made to be used, right?
The reason its so confusing to everyone looking at the credits is the fact that this is a 3d game, completely 3d. Inscryption is mostly about the cards themselves and it has a completely 2d section. There was also a lot of experiments with the original models. And the credits isn't just a list of poorly used and non compatible assets
Yeyeye I fully agree with this. Often times, store-bought assets get thrown in a bad bin (which, I think that’s mostly because of asset-flipper devs and stuff, so there is some merit there), but if a dev can buy an asset that they couldn’t make themself, save multiple weeks of work, and potentially save a lotta money, then it’s a net positive. Store boughts are tools, and like most tools, they only become an issue when they’re used poorly. It’s a time and money saver that makes deving much, much easier, especially if you’re just getting started out.
However, art direction is important. So is time allocation. If you’re buying assets, the reason SHOULD be so that you can spend more time working on the game. Not necessarily get it out faster (at least imo)
I think it's a good thing most of the assets are store bought, because their own models are so unoptimized that I'm shocked you were able to record the game at a good framerate
Prove it. Show me the poly count of BanBan and the texture resolution.
The game was probably being bogged down mostly by active logic, light mathematics, lack of culling, and other forms of bad optimization.
@@enochsadventures I dont have the poly count but is the of the toothbrush model in Yandere simulator
It’s so shit that they made jumbo joshes hands look like green dildos
@@enochsadventures you see how at 9:01 there's a model with like 1 million polys that was lazily made in Zbrush
@@SC-nv2jxOH GOD 💀
the most daunting thing about this chapter to me is Ban Ban's voice. It was really unexpected to hear for me. But I did find the class segment funny at least. And the cult of baby birds, that was adorable.
I also didn’t expect for banban to talk and the game wasn’t great but I had fun
i feel like they should have put a filter on BanBan’s voice or something, I find it so silly and unthreatening, and you can tell it was recorded in a bathroom.
same, they should've atleast put some effort
You can easily tell that they just quickly did his voice lines without any thought or care
@@dittoflareon i was laughing my ass off in this part, its so fucking unthreatening
Here’s a fun fact about the baby opila bird puzzle:
you can skip the whole thing
I did this on my first time playing as I thought this was intended. But when you open the door and opila bird chases you you can run up the ramp. Jump off it and dodge her and then move onto the next section.
Is it (slightly) better than the first? Yes. Is it longer than the first? Yes. Is it a *good* game? Not by a long shot. But it's making its way there, I'd say. Just very. Very. Slowly.
we'd probably get a good Banban game by pure luck, but it's a 1 in 10,000 chance though.
@@dittoflareon we'll just have to wait for Garten of Banban 97 for it to be good
My issue is that we, the community, are giving THIS game a huge spotlight... it really doesn't deserve it in my opinion (compared to loads of other games with more care, thought, uniqueness, and better visuals/gameplay/sound design). Any publicity, positive or negative, is good for this series, but it's sad for us because it validates that the community wants to see content related to this game (when we could instead be supporting much better projects)
@@TracksWithDax even if uhyeah/Markipiler didn’t put it into the spotlight and we all ignored it, it probably would have still been successful among the 7 year olds that it’s targeted to. but i still agree that this game’s popularity (everyone above the age of 7) should’ve been targeted towards something that actually deserves it
Well considering now they can support themselves better I am sure Chapter 3 will be better
Really people are clowning of this game too early
the first game was basically a demo, the second one was an attempt, and if the 3rd isn't an effort then we can be sure that they either were or have become scammers.
I think the Euphoric brothers need to hold onto their revenue and use it, hire voice actors, learn to voice act better, learn C++ so they can actually use the unreal engine or move to Godot 4, and just take as much time as they need to release something of good quality.
This is kind of their big break to be honest and they need to put more effort into it.
I have nothing against them, they're just some indie developers trying to do what they love, but they need to sit down and and take the time to produce something very good and use their money to good use, maybe hiring artists to make unique assets, updating their models and textures, adding better character rigging and face rigging.
If anyone knows they should tell them this, or at the very least to take their time with the next one to produce something of high quality.
I think they are a bit defensive, and that's natural because I really do think they probably tried hard for their level of skill, but they need to ignore blatantly bad faith criticism and take in good honest criticism like offered in this video.
In the chase scene with banbaleena you can see her get taken, you just ended up taking a detour somehow and you didn't see the jumbo take her away
Yeah, but it’s still dumb that you are able to entirely miss it if you’re not walking backwards
The thing I don't like about this game is the bland areas beside the hallway. It makes the game look really rushed, for example: The final chase sequence was just walls and floors sharing the same textures. I think they could've put a little more time into the textures.
I agree also they should have area make more sense like who designed this place a 4 year old I know it's a kindergarten place but it's also a research facility it's just bizarrely built
Uhyeah's fustrations with the game highlight the worst the game has. Alot of segments are drawn out, almost like the Euphoric Brothers wanted to stall the game for two hours to negate refunds. Alot of checkpoints were unforgiving to enforce this dragging out, such as the birds section or the parkour section.
As someone who hates the first chapter I was hopping they would at least take their time and make chapter 2 at least better but it's obvious the euphoric brothers are just cashing in on the game series while it's still popular. It's quite Clear they don't respect their audience at all and just want to make money from kids who don't know better and it sucks it will turn a profit
Mascot horror has a large fanbase of kids, and I was apart of it when fnaf became popular, I'm not sure why kids love it so much but the euphoric brothers understood their fanbase and served. The kids don't really care about the bad janky functions
You don't have to assume someone is money hungry or ill willed to dislike something they've made. Blanket and outright rude statements like this are what don't encourage developers to listen to people. Its fine to not like the game for fair reasons but going and saying they're 2 guys just desperate to cash in while the games popular and who don't respect their audience when they were pretty clearly happy to see how much attention the game got (especially with youtubers they grew up with) and are trying their best with what they have. I find the merch to be unnecessary if they're selling the rest of the games but you got to understand people have to eat and obviously if they're spending time and resources working on a game they're going to put a price tag. Five dollars isn't a lot of money and you gotta understand their perspective here.
people that hate Garten of ban ban buying it to say they hate Garten of ban ban≠kids who don't better
@@memeymeme. This game isn't good enough to be five bucks. You are the exact person they are trying to target with these games.
@@captainszasz5836 I'm not being tricked to buy a game and I never planned on buying it. This ain't an open world game kickstarter or a scam, you can easily see what product you're getting and if you pay for it you pay for it.
I swear to god you guys are saying whatever bad thing you can claim this game is doing instead of just admitting you don't like it and moving on.
I think part of the problem in terms of the performance is how dogshit bad the models they actually made are. Someone looked at the models and they are ABSURDLY high-poly
fun fact: almost 10 minutes before the game even came out, the third game appeared for wishlisting, BEFORE THE 2ND EVEN CAME OUT!
Out of all the reviews of this game that I’ve seen this was definitely the most praise I’ve seen given to it even if it was not that much. I feel like even with how bad the game is right now in my opinion I really hope that maybe the brothers can actually make this a not so bad game. Like you said the potential is there even if it’s a small amount. I look forward to your future uploads and great video as always!
Agree, while I will keep my distance from this game because it's not my cup of tea, I genuinely do hope that they actually make something decent
There is a small chance that in the future gob is a good game and people laught seeing how it started
for just 2 people (assuming) the game is incredibly good especially with how a new chapter was released a month after the first.
@@darkequinox_yt7613 probably because they released the chapter one already thinking on the chapter two,the chapter one is basically a demo
The expectations for Garten of Banban 2 were low, but somehow it was worse than I expected. The re-used assets are more jarring than the first chapter and the game is very poorly optimized. Let’s not even talk about the drone controls. The saddest part is that like minaxa said, the game has sections that could have been good if the developers didn’t rush the game to keep it popular and trending.
Plus they tried to rip off the backrooms lmao
@@slup447 yea. It makes zero function sense to have a huge ass hotel with zero entrances under your kindergarden
Autocorrect..:(
@@Evil_FunRuining_GayPerson you say that as if mascot horror games haven’t had unfitting areas below ground
Like bendy
@@SquidSushi123 or fnaf with sister location being under a house without anyone except William Afton knowing about it somehow
The euphoric brothers aren't genuinely good people, they made a game glorifying school shooters and are currently working on a sequel to it
What game is that?
@@spidybat7658 Pico's School
@@spidybat7658 introvert. if you want more context to how bad the game is, The3Badd3st did a stream on it.
@@hypnospaceoutlaw3376 Isn’t that from the Newgrounds guy?
@@hypnospaceoutlaw3376 no its not??
Should I be worried that they are already advertising part 3?
I dunno. But don't have high expectations for sure
Most probably. It's just a cash grab, don't take it too seriously. Highly doubt the dev's will put any effort in this chapter aswell...
Nothing to be worried about. At least they’re not forcing you to buy it.
I literally just stumbled across your youtube channel today, while looking for Analog Horror analysis videos to watch when I came across your Vita Carnis video. It was so well constructed and articulated that I ended up spiraling down to binge the rest of the videos on your channel and ended up REALLY loving your video on Treasure Island. Especially because despite loving the game when I was younger, and watching youtubers play it, I was completely unaware of just how much was going on behind the scenes. Though I've only just come across your channel (And color me surprised at a new video to watch the same day) I want to commend you for the awesome work that you're doing.
I really love your analysis of the horror genre and it's mediums and I hope to see more! Definitely very excited as well to see your eventual continuation of your FNAF fan game exploration!
freddy five night
i expect they'll add one detail to the drone controller each game and by the end of the series it will look like it took longer than 10 minutes to make
Having (at the time of psoting this) just finished watching ManlyBadassHero play chapter 2 of this game, I want to say that this feels, to me at least, like the product of a creator (or creators) who have an idea of what they want to make a game about, but don't know anywhere near enough about working with the kind of software to actually MAKE that game. Like, the over-reliance on the drone puzzles, to me, feels like those are the game's main source of "puzzles" because that's all they could figure out how to program so far. The few new "puzzles" and attempts at adding unique mechanics to each monster's chases or behaviors in chapter 2 feels like they just figured out how to program that stuff in.
Tl;dr: Garten of BanBan feels like the creators are learning for the first time how to make a game while smack dab in the middle of making a game.
I can see where you're coming from, but these ppl just want to benefit from a badly done game. They know what they are doing
I heard a quote from the developer of the Slendytubbies franchise and I believe that people should listen to it, including Euphoric Brothers (who arent the best of people.)
"If you want to make your dream game, don't make it right away. Try making other little passion projects until you're good enough." or something along the lines of that.
Euphoric Brothers, of course, HAVE made other games, but if THIS is their dream game (yikes), then maybe they should go back to making other passion projects.
Okay so only about 3 minutes and 40 seconds in and I think I have an explanation for the performance.
MLSpence made a thread about the models in the game and you can tell that they have absolutely no prior knowledge of 3D modelling. Why’s that? Because almost everything has a f*ck ton of unnecessary sides/polygons. Even the stick on the remote (that you carry everywhere mind you) has the same issue.
I have heard that game models from video games and models for 3D animation have a big differences. I think the devs just straight up using the model that's suppose to be used for 3D Animations straight into the game. It seems that they have yet to have enough knowledge for these kind of things
Banban's model has 200k polygons
I think that opila bird on the first game still has the most creepy scene on the series,
my favorites of the second game was the snail because it feels surreal with the corridor and her voice lines,
and the giant grey monster on the city zone
Thank GOD you brought up the lighting issue. Was streaming this game with a buddy and we spent 10-15 minutes floundering on the spider chase bc we literally couldn’t see the path. Way more game breaking than any unclear mechanics or wonky hitboxes, imo
i feel like they shouldve made this all one big demo or beta instead of naming it a full on game because it just feels incomplete somehow.
This "game" feels AI generated, honest to god.
The first RUclipsr I watched playthrough this game saw all the monsters get attacked/what happened to them. I'm almost impressed you found a way to miss every second one of them lol
when i saw that corridor it made me think how cool it would be to have a really trippy looking horror game with abstract ideas and rooms
im pretty sure the low frame rate is mostly due to the COMICALLY high polygon models for the monsters as well as the drone and the remote
they feel like raw sculpts that they didn't bother retopologizing wich basically thats like pretty unacceptable
I am absolutely sure that those guys fully expected horror game "connoisseurs" to make countless "oh it's so bad" videos about this game thus giving it exposure.
Given they've been throwing temper tantrums on twitter because people like AstralSpiff were refunding their shitty game because its shitty kind of debunks any idea that this game is satire or made to be bad on purpose. People who say that have to realize that not every bad thing is ironic, and that sometimes games are just really bad.
the most baffling part of me is the big white face in the 3 corridor place. why was the only scary monster so wasted? it’s just missed potential which this game has millions of.
looking at their catalogue of games, almost every single one (aside from the Yikes few) seems to be a mascot horror merch generator attempt. plus in the reviews of that bad zombie game they made one of the reviewers links directly to screenshots of the devs buying positive reviews lmao
I bet that the baby bird part was added in near the end of development because of the meme
To be fair, I will defend them on one thing. The use of store bought assets on it's own isn't a problem. It's what you choose to do with them that makes the difference. Things still need to mesh well and flow from area to area, which (at least in my opinion) is where they messed it up.
None of there bought assets work with the playdough looking characters they made themselves. In fact, I don't think any assets could work with them, they would seem out of place regardless, outside of anything other then Roblox...
As a developer who works in the same engine these people made this in, I am so fucking angry.
"I'm really really mad"
@@thejaded "My anger is immense"
@@foxxyfoxagirl1854 my level of Anger is far too high for Normal standards
@@SirBiszkop My level of anger that I am experiencing is higher then it is expected to be at.
The level of irritation my being is experiencing during this moment is Immeasurable
This game doesn't deserve to be defended as an indie game, everything about it is a blatant cash grab with no respect to it's players.
You don't want to hurl the accusation that they're artificially extending game time to prevent refunds but the gameplay intrinsically artificially runs up game time. The drone's design causes puzzles to just be time wasters, the reincarnation sequence you have to watch every death and the save points both waste time, now they're sticking in puzzles that don't need the drone and it's either the blatant time wasting of the bird gathering or it's the finicky guessing game of the classroom that punishes you with having to waste yet more time on the dialogue.
I fear for what the 3rd part will look like, will it be 5 hours of padding next time? Dialogue that lasts 30 minutes which goes into an immediate chase sequence that makes you go back before the dialogue starts? Buttons you have to have your drone press in order in a big open room but there's pillars that just so happen to cause you to need to trivially bump around so it takes 20 minutes to finish instead of the 2 it would take if you could just click them without the drone?
The real horror here is by the time you dear reader have read all this you will have spent the amount of time it takes the drone to hit one of those buttons.
I dont get how this guy is so positive of this game, the devs arent “good people” they just want money. This guy honestly sounds like he's just sucking them off rn
@@maxiimized
People are too often soft on indie development because they have the mindset that we should encourage more games and improvement within our gaming ecosphere. The concept is that you never know if being soft on an indie developer today will get you a Pizza Tower tomorrow so hold back some of your punches and don't make indie devs just give up if their game is bad or low quality. On top of that indie development causes technical limitations too, so some things you actually can't complain about, I don't feel there is any of that happening with this game though.
Funny enough the creator of this video only an hour after your reply found out about the game creator's past games, I bet he feels silly blindly saying the devs were good people now so I'll cut him some slack on that.
I'm so annoyed about how many people are calling this game series a literal masterpiece. This isn't even a good polish game either.
I'm going to be brutal in agreeing with you: I've seen baby's first Skyrim mods having more polish than this does.
If there is one thing that I would tell them in terms of performance I think that they could gain so much by just baking the lighting into the game, you can tell the performance would improve so much by just seeing that when you change performance settings, they are literally just toggling lights on and off, game development is really difficult and I really do hope them the best in their endeavors. I personally don't know if I would ever make a game after all the backlash they received, so props to them for their ability to keep moving forward.
I did enjoy the fact the lift was reused 6 times
I feel if the first one was called a demo and this was considered the first people would look on it really differently it would be a good 1st chapter introducing most of the cast showing off many different gameplay elements if they take criticism to heart and expand on the sections people like and cut back on the things that are constantly complained about this game could become good but for a part 2 it doesn't really expand on all that much its more an introduction of a story than the continuation of one
No, people would still think it was absolute garbage, and people would hate the “1st chapter” even more for being just as unoptimized and low quality as the “demo”.
Idk why I’m suddenly into game reviews on a game I don’t play, but I’m here for the ride.
the horror game community shouldnt have given these two games the light of day.
I love how it is perfect 17:00
The long awaited sequel.
me and my friends stumbled across the first one upon release and found it hilarious. the day the second one came out we bought and played it
The Banbaleena part about her having a school of inanimated objects would be cool *if the character was well made*
It just feels like the VA just read the script as simple as possible and called it a day. The thing is that the character itself dosent fit with the idea bcs ooh spooky im gonna eat ur brain oooooh, if she was like, more innocent or something it would've fitted.
But that dosen't change the fact that the gameplay there sucks, you just gotta wait till she finishes talking and click a random tape since the answers dont make any sense and it just goes on and on and on and on
I know this is probably not the case, but seeing that giant creepy face the long hallway and the quasi-meta humor makes me wish that the game could slowly but steadily divorce itself from the half-assed mascot horror stuff and lean more into surreal visuals with each chapter, until it completely abandons the lazy façade and becomes an acid trip
just one confusing part for me: the slow seline "chase" is a CUTSCENE, not a separate character
I liked the Pink Bow dude. Mainly only because of their line "you're a new and unpopular student, so you will have to sit with the unpopular table in the middle"
Like dang... didn't have to point it out the loud! everyone's watching! The basketballs will never let me in their cool group with that being my introduction!
I think if more unique room designs , more characters just talk to you instead chase you and try to hunt you down and they were more unique puzzles place closer together were implanted The game can actually be really well done, overall the best thing was the voice acting I love how monotone banban sounds like he can have emotion but really it’s just an act
I agree with this. Especially the voice acting.
the game was made with $2 and a stick of gum and youre worried about the voice acting lmaoo
pretty sure the characters are voiced by the devs and their friends
Yeah, but we all gotta agree that the snail's voice is creepy as heck
@@officialstevedtotallynotfa4449 true.. and that creepy cyan guy is hella scary. Not the guy who got his eye violated. The withered looking one.
@@snku9689 I am mainly saying the voice acting is not that good, it kinda sounds lazy. The ones I sorta liked were the snail and the girl banban. I still don’t like this game ngl.
"The Euphoric Brothers genuinely seem like good people" They silenced criticism and hid replies (only to walk back on that and act like it is a satire) and blocked the guy who made their game even know over a small joke. What are you on about?
Fun fact: people took the models and found how many polygons they have (which is like way to many), probably benefittimg to the FPS issues
What do you mean?!!1! This is one of the horror games of all time
The weird thing is that you can get killed on the X at the end.(I dunno what happened to you) Players can also see what happens to bad teacher(forgot how her name was spelled) if they do things some how the "correct" way.(Go to the right, hit the button then stand in front of the door specifically in the middle other wise for some reason she goes around the X due to weird pathing) Some how you did what usually gets people killed cause like you said there's not exactly a clear directive & live.
But yeah you have a point it should be a cutscene especially given if you don't hurry after clicking the right button teacher follows you away from the X & you don't always get the chance to turn around & move her back to the X. Made worse by having to start the chase from the beginning if you mess up.
You make a lot of good points about this. Some I only thought about after you mentioned them. I wonder what will happen for the next chapter?
I think they should have done more with the spider.
An idea that could have made Garten of BanBan more unique would've been if the player was a janitor at the Kindergarten of the game and all the characters are friendly and possibly helpful to the player. The game could look child friendly and cartoonish to deceive the player with the horror beginning with nabnab. He could've been the only thing out to hunt the player down and could have been a failed experiment that was locked up or an unknown being from a different dimension.
This could have been a unique twist on mascot horror and subverted people's expectations.
also i think possibly seeing or hearing the other mascots possibly mistreat (?) the kindergarteners without really being able to DO anything about it at first, as your job would be on the line, would be great horror
I like that you’re realistic with your criticisms. It’s not “the new standard of indie horror” like some channels keep complaining about, it’s just. A game
With Opelia bird, I think the hint was the first chapter inside the ball pit wher eyou first deal with Opelia. On the side of the ball pit you could see that there were bird foot prints climbing back up to the entrance of the ballpit, so I think the devs were hinting at "Hey just because you handle Opelia here now, doesnt mean shes gone for good" and with the battered/trashed look she has on her in chapter 2, im pretty sure thats the same Opelia that we knocked down the ballpit in Chapter 1.
Also with the glass that was also something hinted in chapter 1. There was a note in chapter 1 (cant remember if it was on the wall or paper) but it said that you cant command the drone to fly into glass so you have to find a way to direct it through and its usually by commanding the drone to fly to an object behind the glass.
With Slow Seline and how you died there, its because you didnt enter the door right after you opened it. The game wants you to run to that door, open it and run inside before Seline makes it too the door because if she can see you in the door its game over. Remember you can only move when shes not looking at you directly but if you are in the door and shes looking inside the door, shes able to see you and get you.
And finally the end chapter chase, you were supposed to go right and hit the button first before running to the door and at that point you can turn around and see Banbaleena racing after you, and then you could see Jumbo Josh's hand and arm rush down and press Banbaleena into the ground before hoisting her up into the corridor above leaving behind the keycard.
Overall, the game is wanting you to play in a certain way in order to experience/beat the game and its executed in a way that makes it barely successful but with plenty of flaws.
the indication that the snail was there is the colorful painting of the corridor i think, maybe is the trail snales leave behind idk
This is the most positive review I’ve seen on this game
Honestly, what really makes me so cynical about this game is not only the fact that they have a link to their merch store on the main page, but also that if you search “Banban merchandise” theres literally hundreds of results for merchandise, in spite of this game JUST releasing AND having an extremely poor reception. This game is clearly just an advertisement for the merch empire they’re trying to set up and its really disappointing - but unsurprising - that they’ve put more time and effort in to the merchandising than they did the actual game.
The glass puzzle mechanic is fine for me because I remember someone saying (from the first game) that it's really bad because you need to aim the button twice instead of once. This convinces me that it was pointless until I realize that you can't aim directly at the button that is behind the glass (I think); it may be bad still.
In the school sequence, there is a bug where Banbalina thinks you got out your seat.
Honestly the classroom part was probably my least favourite part of the game simply because of how repetitive it felt. It was just the same exact thing 3 times with no variation except from the responses you can choose from. I will say that I like how they implied that Banbaleena was crazy due to all the voice recordings being of herself, though I do wish they took it a step further.
This costs *M O N E Y ? !*
The Velma of Mascot Horror
I dont see the connection
@@TheoneandonlyBeisolaVelma fucking sucks and so does banban
@@G40ST2K10 It still doesnt make sense to compare everything that has ever sucked or will suck. Atleast garten of banban doesnt have a bullshit fucking self-insert main character and it doesnt force a political agenda down your throat, nor does it ruin the legacy of already pre-established/loved characters and change them completely to validate the creator and their idiotic fantasies. That said both of them do indeed suck major ass, but they are simply not comparable. Its like saying cuphead is the "dark souls of platformers because both of them are hard". I'm sorry but thats a retarded comparison, yeah they both suck, but if you were to compare anything that ever sucked, then everything would be "The velma of_______".
@@TheoneandonlyBeisola Its not a Good Game but people still play it, Like Velma no one likes it but they still watch it (though this one is more severe)
@@ydr0078 Like i said that comparison still doesnt make sense. Garten of banban is funny and velma isnt, that alone is a major differance
We used to be scared of crazy supernatural thing in outlast
Now we are scared of lemons, plushies, ugly clay things, sesame street and "pixelart, low poly, aesthetic, 8 bit, oldshcool, dreamcore backrooms"
It’s everything that’s been wrong with the indie horror for nearly a decade now, it’s not about actually being scary anymore. They just shit out these games with goofy characters because they’re easily marketable to kids as toys. Very frustrating.
Low Poly, Old School and Pixel Art can be really good, Signalis is one of the best indie games as of recent and it has those elements
@@luisalfonsocecilio7374 yes, the low poly, and pixel art and other unique styles are very good
But its overused by lazy creators who appeal nostalgy to make poorly looking games and now the low poly feels like "just another one"
Its like the backrooms, used to be something special but pepole ruined it
Wtf are you on about, shitty games have existed all the time including Outlast clones
forgot to comment on this earlier, great job on the video
7:37 you have to hit him with the cannon ball and not the drone. It tricks you and kills you if you use the drone.
you need to hit him with the drone to get the cannon ball
I watched bigsurf77s funny moments episode about it and even he made fun of it lol. Yeah this game is definitely intended to be a quick cash grab. You can tell by the uninspired asset bashing, the super boring gameplay elements and the generally poor game development.
The story feels like they only wrote a first draft and didn't go back and look over it
I think the performance issues come from BanBan and co. Who were terribly optimized, they have thousands of polygons which is why they look as smooth as they do,
Garten of poo poo
I probably shouldnt say anything anymore
@@justastranger101 yeah probably
I CANT believe you called the part 2 of the best game ever poo poo! You should never ever say that again!!!
I think something you take for granted that this game lacks, there's no pacing. No time to comprehend and relax after what happened. In Poppy Playtime (since it's the best comparison), after you clear Buggy's Chase, you're given a long enough stretch of Catwalks to relax after the chase sequence, however Garten of Banban doesn't really do this. The Chase Sequences just sort of... End before you know it, and once that happens, you're just... Automatically moving on like that didn't just happen, and nowhere is this more apparent than with the Snail.
You literally *just* leave the Hallway where that sequence occurs and you're immediately in the Cannon Minigame with zero time to give the player time to second guess or fall into a sense of security because they're already busy trying to continue the game because they're stopped dead in their tracks.
Also, I think the word that would better fit your argument in regards to the Opila Chicks is "Padding". The game is loaded with it, and the Drone is the agregous example. Nowhere is this better seen than in the Hallway before Opila Bird's chase, as you have to Drone Ram 3 Switches to open the door. For no reason. It would've worked better if it was *during* the Snail Sequence since then you're having to work under stress while also avoiding being spotted.
Imagine this is like an early version and sometime in the future we get an insane revamp that everyone loves
That.. wont happen.
One thing, I don't agree with the idea that it matters if they used bought assets or not. Those assets exist FOR devs to make games and the assets were even listed which a lot of games don't even do.
Ngl the issue is not the usage itself, but some of the assets just don't fit with the art style
wow
Your first
@@sandygutier271 doesn't matter
11:54 this but for literally the entire game's difficulty, its why the chases are so precise and the puzzles are so unintuitive, unfortunately for them they failed and I got my refund
I think this series of games has potential
My only quips are about the shortness of the chapters or whatever, how slow and somewhat aggravating the drone is
Also I think the save points should just be after cutscenes and dialogue points
The voice acting is pretty decent, actually. Also Banbalina is a bit trigger happy-
I feel like it would be worth the 4.99(?) Better if it was longer.
The spider is also really finicky with slight mistakes. And the collecting the baby bird thing would be better if we didn't have to walk so far
Personal opinion, doesn't really mess up the experience for me but it'd be neat if the character models had a little more texture than just veins n a bit of wrinkling
Over all pretty decent, emphasis on decent, could be touched up though
bro really felt for the bait
Do people still think it's satire?
This entire video makes me wonder: why is this so popular? the game obviously sucks, but it's not like this is a major studio or anything. It's just two guys. Making a super low budget game. Why didn't this get ignored along with the other thousands of pretty terrible mascot horror clones?
I see a lot of people defend this by saying well Scott Cawthon released each game months after each other so why is it a problem now but there’s a difference between a point and click game and a full 3D game even so Scott made all the animatronics and backgrounds himself so its not a fair comparison
Chapter 2 makes no sense, ITS A KINDERGARTEN, MY GOD
THERE ARE CITYS UNDER HERE WHAT
You were way to nice to this game
We need to agree that minaxa deserves more subscribers
I can't find any respect for games that look this minimal
i genuinely found this to be worse than the first game, basolutely disgusting. they even got a whole ass price tag to back it up like with what audacity
i honestly find the game decent, is it the best? no, but its actually decent and that says something
Is it 5 dollars decent though, when it's clearly not the full game?
I'd pirate that game if I were forced at gunpoint to play this because I would never give the devs any money.
the first thing i saw on steam the other day was garten of banban 3. can't wait for 6 weeks from now when we have garten of banban 32: part 1 of 5
Garten of BanBan is everything wrong with mascot horror games these days