Thunderous Beats: The Night John Bonham Stole the Show in Munich '73 - Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Behind the mighty March 1973 show at Olympiahalle. Built on the remains of World War 2, Munich's Olympic Park was an architectural breakthrough. This documentary sheds light on Led Zeppelin's history with München and the musical impact of suchs visits. Enjoy Part One of the series! #johnpauljones #ledzeppelin #jimmypage #johnbonham #robertplant #documentary #classicrock
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JCM. You have made not only a bonafide LZ history addict out of me you have made me the LZ Guru of all those that share our obsession. Jimmy, Robert. JPJ and Bonzo owe you a great debt for your exhaustive and highly detailed accurate historics.
Wow, thanks Erik. Glad these videos are igniting this side of the Zepp fandom, getting deep into the historic connections. I enjoy working these, it's never "easier" but a learning experience for sure!
Shows like this are why John Bonham could never be replaced.
My thoughts exactly!
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Lots of bands survive a members death. Even the foos are carrying on
@@Scottjf8 That's their choice. Zeppelin went out on top. They made the right decision.
@@Scottjf8 The Foos are a "song" band. Any top tier drummer could have done that gig.
Zeppelin played loose arrangements buttressed by massive amounts of improvised jamming. A totally different thing.
Bonham was the glue, that held it ALL together! My Nephew is getting into playing the drums. As a former drummer I gave him the most honest advice I could. I told him, the guitar player, can have a bad night. The bass player, can have a bad night. The singer, can have a bad night. But the drummer, can NEVER have a bad night! I've heard many of Zeppelin's shows, I could count on one hand the amount of times Bonham had a bad night! I have to say that, because he was human, he just played like he wasn't! Keep 'em comin Jose!
Jonesy was the glue, Bonham the engine !
John Bonham 's backing musicians were amazing!
Hahahhah i love this comment. You win Internet Gold Nick.
😂😂😂
The chemistry the band had is off the charts….so good.
Artistry at the highest level! I’m glad you touched on this phenomenal tour. Bonham, once again, on fire. Irreplaceable
Matthew i am still shocked by Bonham"s playing here...by 1973 he really was the Greateat Rock Drummer. What else could he do? My respect grew 300% on him, He WAS the Heart of that band!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories the wild sense of adventure was there but when he took his musical chances they usually worked and he landed on his feet. Not easy!
Simply amazing, the Mighty Led Zeppelin 4 master craftsmen!
I'll bet the crowds' ears were ringing for an hours afterward!
You are a f'n machine, Jose. I don't know how you produce so much great content so fast.
And it's not regurgitated material either. JCM really looks behind the curtain and provides a broader context. These documentaries are time capsules.
The attention to detail is outstanding.
Plant's voice from 1969 to 1971 was the greatest rock performance ever. He blew his voice out through not taking care of it , or managing it and the sheer volume of shows. He obviously approached every gig like it was his last and it cost him. The Royal Albert Hall concert is a great example of his power. Hey JCM, how about about a video dedicated to that show? Brilliant yet again. You are the man.
Hey Robt, i've been asked my several subscribers to make a video on Albert Hall 1970, i think i've find the right angle to tell the story, will add it to my working projects :) Robert Plant was the star of THAT show i believe!
I love your written monologue over the music. Your passion and enthusiasm ate contagious ! 😁✌️
The first time i heard led zeppelin at 10 years old in 1974 they instantly became my favorite band, still are and always will be, john paul jones is my most respected musician & jimmy page is the most entertaining guitarist 'til this day, live performance-wise the 1973 era seems to be their strongest period
Same here...when I was 10 in 1970!!
Green sparkle kit was my favorite for Bonzo easily. European tour of 73 was superb. Pagey was on point . Jose your doing a wonderful job 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thanks so much! Bonzo had a special connection to the green kit. I think the Vistalite was too transparent hehe. He couldn't store beers in there maybe!
JCM; the more tremendous deep-dives you do; the more admiration I have for Led Zepp and their brilliance. John Bonham was on fire here and an absolute BEAST; the "sounds of the underworld" is enough to elicit chills. The Best Band from the 1970's indeed (and many of us would say All-Time). The labor of love you pour into these videos is truly appreciated 🎶💥💫
YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️!! Brilliant JCM Thank you for bringing the FACTS and the FIRE!!! Can’t wait for part 2. Again thank you!!
There's another great series for you JCM! That throughline of excellence in LA. It's evident if you haven't ever noticed.
I'll check it out! do you mean 1973 or 1977?
Only someone who seen LZ in concert could appreciate it more --thx JCM !!!
Wow. The contrast between Jimmy's playing here and 4 years later(or maybe even 2 years) is striking. Almost.......tragic.
Jimmy was so sharp in those days
Poor Robert Plant and his vocal troubles! Great descriptions of the songs at the show in Munich. Friday night with Led Zeppelin and a bit of kettle corn tounch on...👍👍
I rented the Royal Albert Hall dvd in the early 2000s
Bonham's brief warm-up as they took the stage was inspiration enough for me to pick up the sticks.
Cracks of light and shade, or thunder and lightning (Chiaroscuro*)
Oh man yes, i totally agree with you. Those bonus features rock. For me it was the DVD 2003, and watching it with surround sound or well, kinda surround haha.
Another brilliant production! Thanks Jose!
Bring it on!!
What a show this was Munich 1973...just WOW!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-StoriesThis was another great episode,Jose! I absolutely love this tour. Nuremberg seems to always get overlooked but it’s right up there with all the gigs on this tour. I absolutely love it. Keep up the great work.
I’m currently not a patreon member,but I do like to help you out as much as I can afford. You deserve it! Cheers ✌️
Hey Jose I'm a die-hard Zeppelin what could never criticize anything I hear about led Zeppelin I never got to see him because of bottom dying in Philly. Had tickets though. But I still listen to Zeppelin every day and everything all your videos
Thank you JCM..
Bravo amigo!!!
More GREATNESS on ZEPPELIN'S and YOUR parts of this episode,,CHERRZ 🥃🍻🤘🏻
Hahaha JCM don't tell me Bat out of .....IT NEVER DID LOL
THANKYOU MAN LOVED YOUR LIVE ...ABSOLUTE HUMBLE BRILLIANCE YOU ARE A PAGE IN YOUR OWN GENRE
Thank you Paul! I tried to like Bat out of Hell but just couldn't, no way hahaha!
OMG! That Show was LIT !!! Like my friend once said: " Most Bar Bands wish they could be that GOOD!"
Hell the majority of professional bands wish they were too, they were definitely jealous of LZ.
Great series of shows, Zep at their instrumental peak. Eddie Kramer said that Jimmy & Bonzo would rehearse together for hours, and it shows!
Good gracious! Yea, that new kit sounds awesome! Thanks Jose. :).
Fantastic appraisal Jose, loved hearing Bonzo in his prime. Roberts 40+ Tabs a day habit helped kill his voice, many others suffered as well. Remember everyone was smoking at these gigs, the venues were like a fog, very few had extractors. Brilliant show to review they always had a massive following in Germany. Thank you for the great reproduction 👍🙏
Hey Paul, hope you are doing well man. Glad to find your comment. Robert didn't take care of himself yeah, it's sad really. You're right on the tobacco fog, i remember locally when i played gigs like this....so weird to think it was "normal". Bonham was just INCREDIBLE right? Can't get enough of his Euro Tour 1973 sound. More episodes like these coming up :)
Can't really go wrong with 1973 live Zeppelin as they were on top of their game then. I really enjoyed the San Francisco transition to the vialion bow. As a suggestion for another episode would be to focus on the avant guard / experimental stuff that Page did. Things like the hurdy gurdy from the song remains the same and the Lucifer rising session. I know that you had covered the death wish soundtrack but a deep dive on the textural avant guard would be fabulous. Thanks again Jose
For another epic Bonham night, check out the legendary For Badgeholders Only show on 6/23/77. Jcm was saying that Germany brought out great shows in Zeppelin. In my opinion from one of the very first shows they ever played at the Whiskey-A-Go-Go straight through those legendary badge holder shows in '77, Los Angeles brought out the very best Zeppelin shows: Blueberry Hill. How the West Was Won, Deepthroat, Badgeholders. But for my money, 6/23/77 captures a magical night of percussion on a night when everybody's firing on all cylinders. The way he follows Jimmy almost note for note during parts of the No Quarter solo is fricken sublime. From the opening TSRTS straight through, it's ridiculous. This is the night that Keith Moon is partying with them through the whole show and comes out in the encore to bash on the tympany and one of the cymbals during a medly of WLL/RnR after lecturing the crowd about how "there's very few who can actually tupper and tell you what rock and roll is all about!" with Planty tooling around on Bonzo's kit behind him.
I say we do a deep dive into the Hamburg show. Somehow it seems to get overlooked. Vienna, Offenburg and other dates seem to get the glory for some reason. I love how they stretched and contorted I Can’t Quit You out to barely recognizable conditions on this tour. It really showcased their mastery of the Blues. Without John Bonham…the whole thing would’ve been an absolute disaster. His keep of the time was so very CRUCIAL to the Zeppelin operation.
Let's do it, the idea to cover the entire Euro 1973 is definitely there. I will get there :) Thanks for watching!
JCM I love your narratives while the concerts are playing.
Thank you! I take my time on these comments, digesting the music bits and coming up with the words that translate my feelings towards the material!
Magnificent!!
Hi JCM. I remember a 1982 *sounds* magazine interview where Planty advised the Bron-yr-Aur is pronounced “Bronnariar”. That is to say, “Bronn er eye er”. Welsh 🏴 doesn’t sound quite how it looks to the rest of us. I hope you find this useful.
Jah Bless.
Bonham was on fire that night. Wonder how Robert’s vocals sounded in Vienna.
Been a zep fan since 15 (I'm 50 now) I've never heard dancing days live.
Other noteworthy JHB moments from Badgeholders: literally every song! Haha the middle solo section of OTHAFA, the artillery barrage of Nobody's Fault, straight machine gun fire of Achilles', the phased/flanged hammer of the gods in Kashmir and that sublime interplay with Jimmy during the extended No Quarter solo (having replaced the epic D&C on the '77 setlist as the drawn out instrumental number that left the most room for exploration and improvisation)
Excellent presentation. And I agree with you. Bonzo was inspired, swinging as he was possessed by the gods of big bands. Was the Hopfbrauhaus beer? It doesn't matter. He gave us a splendid lesson in dinamics, swinging, and cimbals smashing. Bless you, John...
Hey Adalberto, that's a great beer reference, i forgot to mention that on the video hehe. Seriously, there was something in the air in West Germany that made these guys ROCK. You know when i see mainstream media share 1975 John Bonham pics and just praise him for Kashmir....man....they should listen to these 1973 shows, he was more than a drummer, but the HEART of the band!
Essen is up there too, imo altho I haven't heard a complete show..great work..as usual, JCM
Superb as always JCM 🙏
Thank you so much Rick! Revisiting these is a magical experience every time!
It's so great to still honor theses guys in 2024! Thank you internet!😆
Another fantastic deep dive, thank you as always for the tremendous work you do. It's like having a mega level LZ tour guide walking you through the highlights while pointing out musical, historical and technical facts. I know it's sacrilege to say this, but speaking purely as a Bonzo fan, if more 1973 film existed, I would most probably swap my copy of TSRTS for this show instead.🤭 Even with Robert's strained vocals, it's an absolute drum extravaganza and the only thing better than hearing all his creativity would've been seeing it.
This makes me sad all over again about Bonzo's passing. I can't find the quote but I remember Billy Joel saying that Bonzo's death was the end of rock and roll for him--something to that effect. I think he's right. I was fortunate enough to see him play in '77. The energy that bursted out of him just bowled you over. Unbelievable.
John Bonham was the guardrails, it didn't matter if Jimmy went into some sound experiment. Bonham was always there to put him back on course and with him the rest of the band.
100% Jeff. The reason they split up in 1980 went beyond a brotherhood, Bonham was the ONLY one who knew how to pick Page and Plant off the ground hehe.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I am thankful, as a Zeppelin fan, that they didn't reunite after Bonham's death. For me that would cheapened Bonham's input. I never liked "the WHO" after they tried to continue on as after Keith Moon died.
I've loved the sound of the mellotron since the Moody Blues started using it on Days of Future Past. But King Crimson blew the doors off with it through a stack of Marshall's on their debut. The Lamb and Topographic were the last great mellotron albums, sadly.
A great rock tool indeed, i LOVE the sound of it, 100%
Another gem Jose.
Thanks Scott! Hope you enjoy Part 2, Olympiahalle 1980!
These '73 German shows in Europe have always been some of my favourites instrumentally ever since I began collecting Zeppelin boots back in the mid '80's...but this deep dive again highlights how Plant was, in my eyes, the weak link in the band from '73 onwards. The vocal decline in just one year from 72 to 73 is shocking.
Same here! I had a box full of CD-Rs with the German tour, after these shows it was so damn hard to get into 1975 you know? Yes, Robert's vocals really changed after 1972, it was all but the song remains the same for him unfortunately!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories totally agree..I could never get into the 75 shows, and I had/have them all, but after immersing myself in the live boots of the US tours of 1970, '71 and and '72, Germany '73 (instrumentally devastating), Japan '71, Copenhagen 71, etc, the 75 shows didn't cut it for me. Ditto '77. Yes, they looked amazing, the set list was amazing on paper, the whole Showco presentation, the dragon suit..but musically, and especially vocally, the 1975-77 shows made me realise why some people didn't dig Zeppelin. None of the other bands I listened to had such a vocal decline as Robert had; Paul Rodgers, James Dewar, Frankie Miller, Gregg Allman, Steve Winwood in Traffic, Jon Anderson in Yes, Gabriel/Collins in 70's Genesis, Rod in the Faces, Marriott in Humble Pie, Daltrey, Gillan, Jack Bruce, Steve Walsh in Kansas, Dio in Rainbow, Macca in Wings, Terry Reid, NONE of them slid off the vocal scale in a few years like Robert did. All these singers were able to do justice to their back catalogue throughout the '70's, but for me, Robert lost it after the US tour of '72. Even Japan '72 had more in common with the vocal cracking of '73 onwards than the glory days, vocally, of 1971.
Its really a case study to think Robert extended his rockstar career from 73 until 1980 because of his bandmates. I feel that he suffered trying to look the part deep down knowing the truth and paying a tragic price in the process.
thank you JCM!
Seattle 1973 sounded pretty good.
That was one of my first boots! Fantastic!
March 17th...St. Patrick's Day! LZ had the luck of the Irish that day!
I always wondered how they decided to tie the opening riff of Out On The Tiles to Black Dog.
They needed a cue to ensure that Robert would start Black Dog in the correct key. OOTT fit the bill perfectly
Wish they would have played Out On The Tiles in full.
That was a hilarious response to Plant saying Dancing Days was a song about desiring young girls !! Was that from Airplane ??
You're close. It was Naked Gun.
ruclips.net/video/ahrBOvz1jzA/видео.htmlsi=NGyTF3p2uX6sklbt
This is exciting because I can't even imagine what part2 is gonna be about.
1980?
It's gonna be a solid continuation for sure! Can't wait to premiere it Dave!
Maybe controversial, but Jimmy Page's playing on SIBLY at this show is better blues than anything Clapton ever produced. And Bonham's drum sound is incredible. Considering the relatively rudimentary methods of the recording back then, Bonham still shines. I wish I had heard him play live.
I would imagine that touring Europe, requiring the crossing of international borders, less illegal substances were carried. That and a less rigorous schedule contributed to sharper performances, in my opinion. Touring America on a whirlwind schedule, drugs, groupies and the lot has a tendency to leave a band jaded, strung out and exhausted. Of course, America is where the biggest and most lucrative gigs are.
The Green Sparkle kit always had THE sound, so much better than that crappy vistalite thing, I never liked the sound of it, although it did look cool....Page was on point, I wish he could have stayed consistent with his playing, who knows where it might have gone.....I think '72, some earlier '73 was their peak in live performances musically, poor Plant had to deal with his voice failing many times during this period, but still managed it pretty well considering....JPJ was always there, on point consistent and inventive...
That kit was magic yes. The thing is the Vistalite doesn't seem to have the same resonance as the Green one. Also i feel Bonham had a harder time playing the Vistalite for some reason. Maybe the transparent feel was just STRANGE for him with all the LIGHTS you know? Bonham really carried the show on his shoulders...Robert was LUCKY to have those guys to help him!
WTF was Robert smoking before he introduced Dancing Days 😮 another great video JCM ❤
Haha right? Guess he was having a good time in Munich, thanks for watching Ryan!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Jimmy's spirit definitely possessed Robert for a sec or two 🤣
If you add all the numbers in the date of the 73 concert it adds to 31 which is also what bonhams birthday adss up to. Coincidentally one of Bonhams best shows
Now that's what i call DETECTIVE work......Wow. Goosebumps now man. 1+9+3+1+9+7+3
Not cool teasing Out On The Tiles like that. That’s one of my all time favorites
youre the best!
Thank you!! More stuff coming up! First, i gotta make some coffee!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories make sure it’s black country coffee
in sitting
I mean OUTSTANDING
I was texting with my phone behind my back, upside down in a mirror
Habt ihr die schlechte Konzertkritik gelesen, die kurz eingeblendet war?
Leave it to Bonzo to help out his great friend Plant, who vocals aren’t in top form. Things like that, are one of many reasons they were the greatest ever.
8 seconds limit when holding a mellotron note.
This audio is sooooo good. Do you tweak it or go straight from the source? And what's the source?
Thanks for noticing man. I did tweak it at JCM studios to enhance the stereo feel and move closer to the concert experience at the venue!
Yes. It was Bonhams band. Had to say it.
Bring it on homey😂
To the best of my knowledge, Bron Aur is pronounced "Bron Rar" as in car, if that makes sense.
Bron Rar sounds good i will make a mental note! Thanks for watching
16:30 Yes: Mellotron is Prog Rock ☺
Un sonido insuperable ese teclado. A pesar del tema de las cintas atoradas.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Y que costaba un riñón
It's Brom Rahr. THat's how I heard Robert say it.
It’s amazing that for the majority of their career, Plant’s voice was wrecked. He should have had a vocal coach, fewer gigs, and the band should have been looking out for him by changing the keys.
He just needed to take care of his voice and he didn't. Nobody's fault... 😉
@@RockChick63174I disagree I’m afraid. It was well within the power of JPJ and JP to work out what RP’s new vocal range was and adjust accordingly. If they didn’t spot the damage then they clearly weren’t as professional as they thought they were. I met up with members of my school band a few years back and the first thing we did was adjust all the keys to suit our singer’s adult range. It’s not difficult.
I think part of it (and the whole LZ thing) was taking it over the edge… pushing to excess, over the limit… hence Plant screamed until his voice broke up! Can’t compete with explosive drumming and guitar playing otherwise!
I mean that to keep up with the other band members, Percy HAD to shred his vocal cords. Example… Immigrant song… can’t croon over that bludgeoning soundscape!
He should not have smoked for a start 🥴
Jimmy bonzo on fire Germany shows
The article shown near the end basicly outlines,
that the concert was typical, in so far as it showed the decline of a Live band that was once at the top of the game. LedZep were victims of their own image and a sad parody of themselves. They were musically fatigued and every musician was on an ego trip. Also the PA was way too small and Percy's voice was distorted with delay The acoustics of the Olympiahalle were known to be one of the worst in germany and the 7500 people were most ecstatic when they played an old Presley Song. He goes on to say that LZ , like most other big rock bands of the day, had fallen into the habit of endless soloing to display their prowess but that there was no discernable form behind it and that it ended up being boring. He concludes that they didn't believe in what they produced before but at the same time were not capable of evolving.
If he says that about this concert... just imagine how stellar they were when they came out!
But seriously I guess there was some funk going on back then. People and artists just got exhausted and drugs contributed in both the highs and the lows.
I've gathered a lot of great memories of the Olympic Park in Munich. Many concerts ;)
Bonham was being Max Wall.
Lots of U.S. military boys at these European dates due to the Vietnam conflict..many of them stationed in Germany
Nice Michael Jordan reference.
Would you say Bonham was the Rodman of the team? hehe Thank you for watching!
12:32 - oh dear. Lori?
5:19 ... I've heard it pronounced Bron-YAUR-Stomp. "Yaur" as one word. It's easier and that's what I go with..
World’s loudest folk band!
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Led Zeppelin are so English that if they weren’t they would be German.😅
Spot on!
I think that song is pronounced "brom-wharrr stomp".
Of course, I'm referring to "Bron Y Aur" 😂
Human sledge hammer
Try pronouncing - Bron E Orr stomp, or Brony Or.
❤die Renft combo war besser als Led Zeppelin
👍🇬🇧❤BEST BAND EVER 🎸
I guess you should have called this The untold Story Of John Bonham.1973.
Haha great idea. Maybe on the description title! What a show right?