Note at 45:39. I said Jimmy Page's birthday in 1983 was him turning 44 but it was actually his 39th birthday. Got my stats mixed from the OUTRIDER period. Thanks@disneyfamily5158 for spotting this!
No AI voices, please. It distracts..... 😔 I prefer your distinct (human) voice. Just my opinion, thanks. ✌ I love all your videos. Been a fan since the excellent In Through The Out Door videos. I'd be interested in seeing more on Robert Plant's individual solo albums. Greetings from Kobe.
I read your reply... LOL. Using AI to make the critics voices much more annoying worked on me In that case, please ignore my criticism. 😉 I look forward to the next Zep video (and your performances). 👍
I'm not a huge fan of Led Zep. But back when the print media meant something, Jann Wenner could blow a snot rocket at you and wreck your career. Daryl Hall has some things to say about Wenner.
the only good thing about rolling stone magazine is that if i run out of toilet paper, i know what i can use to wipe my own stinky ass. that magazine hasn't had said anything of note for nearly 30 years. plus, why should we take anything seriously from that shitstain?
Over the Hills and Far Away is “dullsville” ? The Rain Song “falls flat on its face” ? Two of the most beautiful acoustic rock songs ever, that are absolute classics 50 years later.
When I purchased Zeppelin 3 I ran home and laid on my bed with headphones on As I listened to "that's the way" I was dozing in and out of dreaming. The song made me so sad because a friend of mine committed suicide about a week before. I will never forget that moment in my young life, and it brought Led Zeppelin closer to me in my own mind and touched my soul forever. I was personally linked to the Mighty Led Zeppelin...and still am!
Robert Plant would later dismiss John Mendelsohn's critique writing prose as nothing but the bitchings of a "frustrated musician." (Mendelsohn now runs a blog called "A Yank On The Edge Of England" where he writes about music while occasionally maintaining his tiresome, long-standing hatred for Zeppelin. An excerpt: "I like melody, wit, vocal harmony and expressiveness, all of which are lacking from Led Zeppelin. It's all just showing off.") "Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Ernest Hemingway. (PS: The discombobulated AI voice reading the "I see the sunlight in your eyeeeeeeee..." passage from Kurt Loder's "Pictures At Eleven" review had me howling! 😂🤣) Thanks for this, Jose... "The toast is made yet again..."
In the early 70’s, like many teenagers, I fell under the spell of “progressive” FM radio, which rejected the Top 40 format for playing deep album cuts, never the same song twice in one day. Part of that ethos was reading Rolling Stone. I even went so far as to subscribe to the magazine for a couple of years and actually READ it cover to cover. I fancied myself as “progressive”, when in reality, I was just another confused teenager. I thought the magazine had an “alternative” vision for the world of music, when in fact it was just entertainment for a relativistic culture that didn’t know what it wanted. That became more apparent as it morphed into a uber-commercialized Top-40-ish slick magazine by the 1980’s, more concerned with selling full page ads for The Gap than challenging the radio-enforced musical tastes of its readers. Worst of all were their horrid reviews of everything Led Zeppelin. I was thoroughly enjoying the blistering guitars and crazy rhythms of Presence when they published Stephen Davis’ dismissive review, informing me how philistine my tastes were. Now they publish “greatest” lists like “greatest guitarists of all time” or “greatest singers” when most of their writers and readers couldn’t discern a vocal chord from a vibrator. Rolling Stone is garbage. Its publisher is an unfortunate disordered man clinging to a vision that means nothing. Save it for the bottom of the bird cage.
exactly. jann wenner is a moron. he likes to celebrate mediocrity. even if it's a bad record from bruce springsteen, the stones, and U2 and think of it as the greatest thing ever. no wonder his most recent book flopped.
Calling Zeppelin heavy metal by anyone drives me crazy, & I know the band hated it too. Rolling Stone certainly never had anything nice to say, about Led Zeppelin, no wonder they hated the press.
Every band with distortion was called “heavy metal” in the 70s, the subgenres weren’t defined yet and distortion was scary to a generation weened on Joni, Bob, and Peter Paul & Mary.
"Heavy Metal" was the common "box" to put them in. It sure wasnt "folk" or "Jazz" or "Rock n Roll" or "Rock"...it was a new genre and a new term that came to mean, later, in the late 70's, and 80's bands like Priest, et all...but in the late 60's and early 70's thats what it "was" ..it WAS "heavy metal" maaaaaannnnnn.....it meant "heavier" than "rock" with more FUZZ and HUGE solos. "Heavy" also meant "meaningful" or kinda just "MORE" of the THUD and LOUDER. Which LZ certainly was...."More EVERYTHING."
@@GINKBB I respectfully disagree. Zeppelin was far too diverse and eclectic to ever be considered HM. I get your point that it was a new term floating out there, and that lazy "journalists" made liberal use of it for any band that was "heavy". But to say "it WAS "heavy metal", again, I must disagree. Regardless, the RS critics were just so clueless and obnoxious overall, it really doesn't matter that they used that term. I brought it up in my comment simply as point of reference to their cluelessness. They had it out for Zeppelin from Day One. They also hated Progressive Rock. Well, Led Zeppelin is my favorite band overall, and Prog Rock is my favorite genre of music, so clearly, I have significant issues with that magazine and its critics.
As a writer. I’m inclined to give most of these guys a break. It’s difficult to contextualize a brand new album with one or two listens, then write something that will hold up to scrutiny 50 years later. Plus, Jan Wenner ran RS with an iron fist, forcing writers to conform to his agenda. All that said, the most egregious has to be the review of the first album. They wanted the New Yardbirds so bad, their ears didn’t hear the record right.
Let’s not overlook the fact that all of these critics were completely ignored by Led Zeppelin and they had nothing to do with their success and critics hated that and that’s why they panned them so heavily
agreed. jann wenner is an aging queen with no taste. oh, and i will always enjoy the night when rush got inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame. you could tell the sense of disdain in his voice over them being inducted as he went... "and from toronto..." in that monotone voice and then FANS SCREAMED so loud. the roof went out of the building as everyone went nuts while geddy and alex's moms gave jann the finger. he was fuming. to be insulted by two old jewish ladies.
Some of Rolling Stone magazine anti LZ stance in those early days was due to the magazine’s snobbery when it came what it considered the canon…The Beatles, Dylan, solo Beatles, Hendrix, Clapton, CSNY, The Band, Janis, etc. For some reason, in those early days, LZ were seen as overblown and a cheap knock off of Cream. Another factor is that Grant deliberately created a wall between LZ and the press. Grant was not well liked by many in the press and the feeling was mutual. What’s interesting is that Albert Grossman kept Dylan away from the press after Dylan’s motorcycle accident. Grossman also had The Band relatively hidden from press in their early days too. I suppose though, Rolling Stone worshipped Dylan so his being press shy was seen as “mysterious”, whereas LZ was seem as being obstinate and aloof.
I only like maybe one or two songs from both those groups, while only not liking two of Zeppelin’s songs. Comparing Plants vocals to Rod Stuart’s vocals, & claiming Plant didn’t have range etc. WTF! Good thing us fans didn’t pay attention to the shitty critics, pretending to be experts LMAO.
Its all a matter of taste innit? There is no better Led Zeppelin than Led Zeppelin. And I like Led Zeppelin. When I want to listen to Led Zeppelin nothing else will do. That said, I think the Who and the Stones are vastly better songwriters and have a for more diverse, experimental and creative lexicon of work. Simply put, better SONGS. much better songs.
The Stones were better songwriters because they had better melodies. Zepp were better arrangers, producers and performers. Everybody has a different strength. Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell just plain sucks hahahha
Your new Zeppelin episode tomorrow……and then Montreal 75 footage on Sunday……and then to top it all off….. a solar eclipse on Monday! What a time. Bring it on!!👍
It’s coming out at 12:30 pm eastern time this coming Sunday the 7th. It’s 51 minutes of 8mm footage from Feb 6/1975 Montreal. “Speedy” is the one releasing it. Same person that released the Pontiac 77 footage. You should sign up for “Led Zeppelin News” which is free and they send out an email once a week on Zeppelin updates including Plant/Jones/Page updates…..and also “For Badge Holders” FBO which also sends out updates on the band. Cheers
Damnnn thats GREAT NEWS. I had exchanged Emails with Led Zep Film but never heard from him back. I bet he's been busy now i know why hehe. Montreal is a very good show from that dreaded Winter. I have another episode coming up on Sunday!
Holy shit! I LOVE that show! "Long live the pourbooster!" I have the original korneyphone vinyl still... That footage is KILLER. We've seen snippets. They're on yt.
@@crungefactoryI believe this is different footage of Montreal than the footage we’ve already seen uploaded on RUclips. This is a different person filming. There are two long 8mm films of Montreal….. one guy is holding off on fully releasing his film. He want too much money for it…he’s only shown the ten minute clip that is currently uploaded on RUclips. Sunday’s footage is new and has never been seen before. Cheers
Wow, Houses of the Holy really took both barrels from Rolling Stone. Seriously, how can you profess be a music lover and not listen in sheer awe and wonderment at The Rain Song?? Surely one of the finest songs composed by any band....ever?
I heard that Robert's vocals and particularly his wording were affected by his recently acquired dentures after the '73 tour. You can see his dental woes in his closeups from TSRTS movie.
I don't know about you JCM, but I can't think of another band that can claim a better - or even close - demonstration of growth and development from start to finish of their careers (except for The Fab Four, of course). Sometime after discovering Zep then becoming huge fanatics (mid 1974), my best buddy and I read some of these RS reviews. He looked at me at one point and remarked "did these guys listen to the same records we are?" My specific and personal problem with RS was the way they slammed Presence - Plant always claimed that their albums were a "statement of where they were at the moment." Taking their major travails after Physical Graffiti into account, they responded with a monstrously powerful album with possibly Bonzo's best perfoemance and Page expanding his "guitar army."
Don't tell anyone but i think Presence is a better album that Graffiti. No Outtakes, no long sections repeated just because, but INNOVATION. Achilles is QUITE the workout that keeps things fresh. I think The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are the only bands to grow and develop without EVER resorting to revolving door of bandmates. Thank you very much for watching!
Thank you for inserting clips of the Sopranos and Scarface. As I was watching, I was saying the exact same things, and then -BAM- a clip that reflects what I just shouted. Cheers! 🙂
When I had read Rolling Stone made fun of John Bonham’s drumming and lack of skill about Physical Graffiti, it was so absurd I actually started laughing. A political magazine to never be taken seriously.
This was a fun video revisiting the reviews. Stuff you just dont hear of unless you lived it. The difference in reviews (besides ignorance and lack of knowledge) only proves that individuals have different outlooks, social constructs, expectations and preferences. Some wanted a social commentary of what was going on at the time (war), some wanted the psychedelia of the music to mimic the new drugs, some wanted folk / hippy vibes, some wanted hard rock. Through all of the reviews, each Critic said Zepp got at least one thing right for them. What more can you ask of legends? You can't please all of the people all of the time, but you can give it a shot if you're Zepp.
Imagine being a writer for a Skiing magazine or a Surfing magazine and you don't Ski or Surf. Non musicians lol commenting on musicians...? Bottom line Rolling Stone Mag *has no credentials.* So that makes them a foolish mockery beyond JOKE.
Bad analogy. The equivalent would be music writer who was deaf. ‘Imagine being a music writer who couldn’t listen’. Rolling Stone had an opinion you disagreed with, that’s all. No big deal.
@@swirlingfudge Their "opinion" had no credentials *that's all* I'm saying. Yes we are initialed to an opinion I totally get that, but when you cross that line and 'criticize' [which everyone is also initialed to do] and then you publicize it in a "professional magazine" and you don't know even what an open E string is lol it just makes you look super foolish, doesn't hold any weight. Credentials credentials credentials. Peace
exactly. depeche mode never got a good review from them until 2017 with "spirit" yet dave gahan's response to that positive review was "they're still cunts".
Just curious, then can you not critique a film if you are not a director? or a restaurant if you are not a chef? A sports team or player if you are neither? A book if you are not an author? A building if you are not an architect? Or a POLITICIAN or elected official if you are not one yourself?
You can as long as you don't pretend to have first hand experience therefore doing some research of the craft helps, this is what old time journalists did and investigative journalists too...you know before they became tools for advertising :) i see many critics who DO NOT conduct their research properly.
Most critics, in any field, are just people frustrated in their ambitions so they distill their venom by criticizing the famous, rich and successful... who cares about them? I don't care at all, I have my own opinion and follow my heart, the rest...is the rest
Zeppelin turned everything and everyone on their head. Somehow, someway Zeppelins popularity was hurting Rolling Stones “back pocket” and rather than join the wave RS chose to fight it. THEY LOST
I can see the narrative this magazine tried to play, and the more we see the big picture, it's obvious they were political tools unfortunately. Led Zeppelin on the other hand, bringing people together! Thank you very much for watching!
GREAT ANALYSIS OF THE ZEP REVIEWS. BUT I THINK THE COVERDALE PAGE ALBUM WAS ONE OF THE BEST OF THE 1990S AND HAS SOME OF JIMMYS GREATEST GUITAR WORK! TO ME ITS THE MOST ZEP SOUNDING MUSIC SINCE ZEP DISBANDED AFTER BONZO'S PASSING.
One of your best documentaries..Lester Bangs invented trolling….but the early reviews reveal how LZ confused the critics….there is no reference point. Robert Plant came out of no where…same with Bonham. Page and Jones were session men so had a huge versatility….so what could it be compared to at the time? Yardbirds? Cream? Roger Daltrey? No no no. Only. By PG do critics get it….the tone changes… also critics never accounted for the band’s popularity…
I watched this and listened to it, but it was quite a downer. They put these writers on a pedestal and set them free. There were some good things said, but a lot of these guys hated them before even hearing the album for their selves. I think Led Zeppelin is a band that was separated from all that hogwash. They didn’t need to title an album or even write the band name on a cover. The real fans would find it and Zeppelin let you into their world. Even after decades of listening to them, I don’t judge, I experience. And I’m entirely grateful for the experience!
Rolling Stone is such a rag ! They foisted The Greatful dead & U2 on the idiots. Never was a rock magazine I was a lifestyle magazine for the Beige & Confused…
Very Cool🎉 Finally! John Henry Bonham's SWING acknowledged. Imagine killer Zepp Riffs with a drummer on top of the beat..😮 "Kashmir" for example. Bonzos slight beat motion makes it work. To me anyway. & Thank you❤ All in one place! Love the collection of the infamous Rolling Stone Bad (and seemingly motivated by something..) reviews. "Physical Graffiti" review great.
You take the swing away from Zepp and you have NOTHING. This makes finding the right personnel for a tribute band so difficult hehe. Thank YOU for watching!
Interesting that early reviewers note that Zeppelin is white. Jimmy a talented “white” blues guitarist. I guess there were still purists who believed that only black people could pull off real blues.
They weren’t purists. They were leftists and no doubt still are. Such comments were virtue-signaling - suburban white guys defending the legacy of black men they’d never welcome into their neighborhoods
Rolling Stone HATED Chicago also. They trashed Chicago V, 1972, which was #1 for 8 consecutive weeks. Rock “critics” loved garbage like the New York Dolls and Zappa. They also automatically loved girl junk like Blondie and The Runaways Some people choose knee jerk counterintuition (good=bad, bad=good) as a cheap route to attention I think Mendelson REALLY ripped Chicago a new one somewhere along the line. 1975?
Rolling Stone magazine is one of the silliest most pretentious and obnoxious publications ever published. Those reviews were amusing for their stupidity and lack of intelligence of its subject matter. However, Kaye, Miller, and Loder especially provided well written reviews. The rest just sounds like sour grapes. Now it's like they never wrote those reviews because of their revisionist love of the band. Great work JCM.
Even John Bonham’s September 26th, 1980 obituary in The NY Times written by John Rockwell has some degree of snark. I believe his drumming was described as something like overly heavy. Even the story of his death was covered merely in the obituary pages and not anywhere near the front pages. Back then with newspapers like The NY Times, there was serious news for the front pages and the death of a rock musician was relegated to maybe the Arts section and obituary pages (Elvis and Lennon being exceptions). It is interesting to see how LZ were seen by many in the press throughout their career. It’s an important part in understanding them as it provides much context.
@@willard2729I used to read it pretty regularly growing up and I would learn a lot about domestic and foreign affairs. Its writers were incredible informative. Granted, it was elitist but it was educational…and fairly non bias. It’s so different today as everything is.
Thank you for this much needed critique of Rolling Stone magazine attitude towards Zeppelin. I can somewhat forgive RSM for the awful review of Zeppelin I. Zeppelin I came out during the height of flower power, hippie protesters and "all we need is love" era. RSM missed the point that sometimes music can simply be just about the music. No messaging needed and we're taking a no prisoners approach and going balls out. If RSM went to one of their concerts in 69-71 they might have understood Zeppelin. Zeppelin was the right band at the right time for ppl who wanted to have a great time and leave their troubles behind. I'm halfway through the video. You're doing a great job with your RUclips channel. I look forward to more deep dives into the "Hammer of the Gods" Good stuff brother.
I was young at the time, still at school the closing remarks re a review in Sounds, NME or Melody Maker can't remember which publication regarding Physical Graffiti stated "Rock Lives and How" saved up my pocket money and bought the cassette on the strength of that comment...no regrets. I'm pushing 65 now 😊❤
My Dad used to say, "Opinions are like as*holes, everybody's got one!" I can't remember a time in my life when I bought an album, or didn't buy an album based on a review. I have never gone to see a movie, or not gone to see a movie based on a review. I have not done either of those things, regardless if it was positive or negative. Music is like the women you prefer, I don't know why, I just like her. She does something for me, whatever that may be. The trick is to like what you like without getting too concerned about the why of it all, just enjoy it. I can't take the stance of an immovable "fanboy" either! You have to be able to be honest about it because, I don't want to hear music I don't particularly connect with, anymore than being with a woman that I can no longer be with and still look myself in the mirror! That's the way life is. My Dad (who was married and divorced 3 times) gave me some good advice he told me, "The only reason you should marry someone, is because you can not live without them!" "Otherwise, you're just counting the days until your next divorce!" Even though I have not always loved them, I CAN NOT live without them!
On *Physical Graffiti* - in addition to phasing his electric guitars, producer Jimmy Page used the effect on Robert Plant’s vocals - presumably, to further accentuate his newly slight rasp - perhaps? Oh, and on a side note - in the summer of 1983 - with each trip to my local shopping mall - I too had developed a habit of buying - yet another copy of - *In Through The Out Door*
You had an ITTOD habit haha, that's awesome man! I think phasing Robert's voice was for this reason you mention yes. The instrument changed, so the mixing had to change.
Though I do find some of Lester Bang's reviews enjoyably quirky, Rolling Stone has repeatedly shown itself to be malignant bullshit and unworthy of even being crumpled up and stuffed next to kindling to start a bonfire at a campsite.
Another great video, good work! I have mutual friends of Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith's main collaborator) and they say Lenny is the best! As far as Lester Bangs, even as an 11-year-old I would skim through his convoluted CREEM reviews searching for anything cohesive in between the bratty redundancy. Then there's the idiot who took D'yer Mak'er serious!? Even Zep hate it but without the reggae label it's one of the sexiest damn songs ever.
I you can, tell Lenny i salute him for his review, VERY well done, he was classy enough to state what he didn't like with style. D'yer Ma'ker is a FUN song and the DRUMS....the heavy sounding kit Carries the tune really, it's a celebration piece indeed! Thank you very much for watching!
Re: Presence & Stephen Davis. A few years ago he published a book called "LZ '75" talking about his experiences writing and traveling on the '75 tour. He tells about how he heard Graffiti a couple of weeks before it came out and how he liked it. He mentions his review of Presence, but states that it's his favorite Zeppelin album to this day. He doesn’t mention why he gave the album such a snarky review. I guess is that he was still bitter about how he was treated by the band and Richard Cole on the tour. Fun book.
I still wanna see Tony Montana and Tony Soprano driving to Rolling Stone offices to have a quick meeting with the staff haha. Thank you very much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I named my WI-FI network after a line in the Immigrant Song (We are your overlords)! I'm happy that you showed the picture of Page and Plant on stage with Bad Company, I was at that show!
Great analysis. UK music press from Prescence onward ('NME' highly critical as they were enthralled with Punk and New Wave, viewed LZ as dinosaurs), ('Melody Maker' slightly more positive 1976 headline "Zeppelin Storm Back" but they leaned to more arty stuff Genesis, Yes, viewed Townshend & Jagger very positively) ('Sounds' had a bunch of excellent rock journalists Barton, Burchill , to a lesser degree (punk man] Bushell). They were a critical of Prescence & ITTOD, as they were at forefront (me too) of NWOBHM that was fabulous & vibrant at the time.
The idea of using different voices is great, because many times I listen without watching, and this is much easier to discern. Thank you for this kind of re-review. So much of what the average fan might say today is hearsay, but without checking out all the past archives and searching for accuracy.. ADD: at the 4:42 mark, the text increases slowly, it got me real dizzy. Anyone else experience this?
Sorry for the dizziness hehe, i just wanted to add some dynamics and not have static text! Glad you enjoyed this one. it was fun to revisit this Rolling Stone heresy!
Way to go! Mendelsohn said in " Kinks Kronikles" book that Robert Plant read excerpts of the RS review from the stage in some CA gig demanding Mendelsohn approach the stage. ELP were attacked by the critics too. Critics get the album for free then get paid for a review. I read over in England a certain writer didnt even attend a certain concert . He was at the bar and asked people leaving about the show
Yeah Gordon Fletcher really gave that album a beating. Like i said, i understand why.....(not agree of course), but after IV there's no way D'yer Ma'ker sounded like the same band hahahahah. Thanks for watching!
I enjoy the series you've put together, great collection of stories and photos. On this one, the AI narration kinda detracts - it doesn't emphasize the words correctly which is kinda jarring.
I am Cuban and when I heard LZ for the first time I was 16 years old, my life changed forever, reminding them that I lived under a regime that imprisoned you for just listening to the "enemy's music" but nothing mattered anymore their music was a new world to live in
I've always loved to read original reviews of famous records and record sales numbers of tge first five years if a release. It tells you how people really felt about a record before years of radio changing the way they feel or saying they feel differently about an album because they're in the minority now. One and two were criticized tge same as van halen one and two as cock rock they knew would be popular. Some of the criticism of one I get but not 2 through physical graffiti. Presence seemed aimless and in a vacuum I get why some wouldn't like in through tge out door. I was such a zepplen mark that I loved them all
Page producing the albums was very unusual, but he didn't want a "record executive" second guessing his decisions. I think record sales pretty much says it all.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Exactamente... Al mismo Sibelius lo habían criticado mucho por ser muy "Romántico" y no estar alieneado con la "Avant-garde" musical de principios del siglo XX... Y ahora es recordado como uno de los mejores compositores que ha existido, es tocado en todo el mundo y es un símbolo para su país: Finlandia, junto a Nokia. Y toda ésa música "Avant-garde" de principios del siglo XX cayó casi en el olvido y los músicos casi no la tocan ya que sino la gente sale huyendo de los conciertos ya que es puro ruido 🤣🤣🤦 Y ya veo que a Led Zeppelin le pasó igual y para callar a ésos críticos ahora ellos son uno de los grupos de rock más conocidos y quienes han vendido más en la historia!
A memorable quote from hammers of the Gods was that the young teenage brothers and sisters of the critics were the ones who loved Led Zeppelin the most, and for this they would never be forgiven by the establishment.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Maybe it didn't hade so prominent sound or production but calling "White Room" disjointed? I guess they had to compare them back then, nowadays is clear that they were aiming different goals.
There's only one thing in common with all of them - selling magazines! It's also curious that the greatness of the band had come only after their end... an old clichet?! Great video as always :)
Whenever i see modern day Rolling Stone magazines with some kinda of Zeppelin related content i refuse to buy them....it's easy to cash in now right? Lester Bangs did not make rock history with these comments. The fact he was one big supporter of punk and new wave makes a Point Zappa tried to spread about Punk being a fad and a fashion product. Thanks for watching!
JCM, Ive followed you since the begining, this , and for some werid is my 2nd favourite eposide after LIVE AID of course...I dig ur style caberon...can I get a TRU DAT!
Hey Sean, man thanks so much! Glad to know you feel this way about this episode. I remember the LIVE AID odyssey, quite a challenge it was. What did you like the most about this REVIEW episode?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories... You got great insight with a splash of humor.. I watched it 3xs and laughed every time... This is just a thought, I realize that zep story's are fast coming to a end.. You should shed some insight on the bands that tragically never met they their potential... Like for example Bad Finger... There has to be and endless supply of those... Anyway just a thought.. Your great.. Doing God's work.. Peace
If I remember ITTOD got the best review..sorry JCM I know you love it..besides In The Evening and Carousel..their weakest effort due to Pages "Problems" The rest of the album is all filler and not even worthwhile of B side material..after Presence..which was stellar..ITTOD was a Limp Blimp You do great work as I've told you Keep it up!
Hi, JCM. You have the best Zep stuff on RUclips. I watch every one. Your voice over person on this is not good and hearing your commentary is much, much better. Can't tell if it is AI, but, at any rate, the stresses and tones and pauses and other stuff are quite bad. Sorry to mention this, but, I thought you might like to know. All of your work is very professional. I am the top voice talent in Taipei, I am from Chicago, and I would love to do some work with you about my fave band. I am not too expensive, so hit me up if you want to. I can easily tell how much work you put into these. Thank you for your time. Keep rockin!
So Mike this was A.I done on purpose to make critics sound LIFELESS haha and Robots. I narrate all my videos of course, but for this one i decided to change things around. So cool that you work professionally on voice talent, not sure i can afford you, maybe when i have more Patreons hehe. But i think we'll work together someday! Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Hello, sir, and thanks for the response. Yes, after over 20 years in Taipei, I am all over the radio and TV. But, how is this for price..I will do the first two recordings for free! I don't care about money, hard to believe, but, I just love recording. When you do the voice overs, they are perfect because you know your topic and your feelings are real. That makes a great recording. Anyway, no other Zep videos are even close to yours on RUclips because of your research and passion for the band. You drop in references from your life. And, Rolling Stone was always opposite for me...if RS disliked a band, I knew that I should check them out. From Cream to Grand Funk to Zep. They always had their heads up their asses. If you wish someday, we will find a way for me to email to you a couple demos of my work. And, I would love to do some voice work on a great Zep video. Even just intros and outros. Much continued success to you, JCM. I am looking forward to more videos of yours. Catch you later. Peace out from Taiwan. P.S. One of my emails is extra9601@gmail.com mikeryan is not my real name
The style of 1970's era, Rock Magazine criticism merits a long overdue, critical review. The smug, drug-addled pomposity of many of the Rock magazine critics of that era reminded me of the proverbial, " Eunuchs at a Gang-Bang. " Much of their writing amounted to little more than sharing their own jealousy-ridden, wordy digressions in print. To borrow one of their own favorite descriptors, they " SUCKED."
I knew Lenny Kaye wouldn’t disappoint. I’ve seen Lenny in several rock and punk documentaries throughout the years and he always brings his great musician perspective to the table. And Kurt Loder always loved himself some Zeppelin and that’s saying something because Loder when he wanted to can be a sarcastic prick (usually he was right too). So it’s pretty cool to see him buck the trend of these other reviewers with their “Zeppelin is popular so I gotta shit on it” attitude. If you want a good laugh watch the “Year in Rock” episodes from the early 90s on RUclips and see how many snarky comments he gets in on the overly polished last gasps of hair metal. As for David Fricke…I just bought a vinyl copy of that “so so” 1982 Death Wish II soundtrack! I had a fever and the cure was more Gizmotron. Fricke’s a pretty decent journalist himself though. Pretty sure the last thing Lester Bangs heard when he died was the Human League’s Dare which has “Don’t You Want Me” on it. I never had the private jet experience but I may have dabbled in the other things listed there once or twice in my band days and needless to say yeah he never had those experiences. In the tradition of Spinal Tap’s Shark Sandwich and the infamous short review that was written on it my review of Lester Bangs is simply Lester does not indeed “Bang.” Also what’s up with the rest of these reviewers just being so blatantly wrong that the passage of time has turned their opinions into some amazing comedy. And how dare some douche say “Carouselambra” is boring and too long…he needs to be smacked upside the head. Right along with Robert Christgau of the Village Voice whose reviews always seem to be opposite of how I feel about anything. If he told me the sky was blue I would be booking an optometrist appointment immediately.
Mendelsohn "spade imitation" . I'm not going to say what I think of this "critique". It'll make me as bad as him doing so. 11:14 --- I think the dance sequence with all the fire maidens actually works better with the Immigrant Song than the scene Bangs references. There's more going on with the multiple dancers, and they're pretty much in time with it. PS --- cue Immigrant Song JUST before the maiden raises her hand to motion to the other fire maidens to begin their dance. The song should end when that same maiden places her hand on one of the dudes they've just put to sleep. And he nods off. It works pretty perfectly.
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yeah I've done a version. Its a good sync, it has some key moments, it's not like "eerie" syncy, it's more like well timed. It works. A better sync is Godflesh's "Anthem" paired with a scene from Jesus Christ Superstar. Immigrant Song and Fire Maidens is "ok". Godflesh Superstar is something else ;) ruclips.net/video/6UDnjhQHfUA/видео.html You're welcome, you do very well put together and researched videos :D
I always hated Rolling Stone. Nothing but drivel. Never cared for Lester Bangs either. Excellent comments about Lester, Jose. Excellent. 😅 LedHed Pb 207.20 🎶 🎸 🎹
Great video as usual! Rolling Stone like the HOF chooses who they like and dislike and it is almost like a Fraternity...you are either in or on the outside looking "in". Led Zeppelin gets thrown under the bus on every record yet Bob Dylan could fart into a couch cushion and get 5 stars..... EVERY TIME! The list of Bands that Rolling Stone has trashed over the years is comical! At least Jan Wenner was FINALLY exposed as the snake oil salesman he has been over the years.....good riddance 🙏
Hmmmmmm I couldn’t find one track recorded by any of the writers from Rolling Stone magazine. Critiquing those who can, by those who can’t, never carried much weight with me. I never saw that Zeppelin had an album coming out and said: “Wait! I need to make sure that, Rolling Stone likes the album and tells me how to listen to it!”
I grew up with this music. Sorry I didn't read RS. Thought it was pretentious. But then most music criticism was. There were east coast reviewers that were trying to put the progressive genie back in the bottle and bring back the 2 and a half minute single. The Zep were revolutionary in the late 60s and early 70s. Today? I'm not sure.
I had a music critic in my country destroy my career very early with a nasty review after supporting me for a big break. The reason? A chick he liked, decided to like me temporarily. I had to start over from scratch. Many years later i met him at a supermarket, he asked me some trivial BS, i asked him, are you still an alcoholic? Sometimes these critics are very very troubled minds, hating is the only form of love they know. Sad. 1 out of 5 stars. Thank you very much for watching!
I know this is a "Rolling Stone" review episode, BUT this is far and away my fave review ever. From Creem magazine Dec 1970: LED ZEPPELIN Led Zeppelin III (Atlantic) I’d like to write a review that does in print what Led Zeppelin does on record. I’d like to wrote a revue that do in print what Lid Zapulon daes in rakard. Eyed lak two wring a rongvue thang done an purnt hot Lug Zipperlin dig em ekred. For example, you could imitate Robert Plant being at the zoo and playing with the animals-ughoooeekkkkzzzzughughugh. Flour ecks sample who cowed imiganite Rudder Plunk bing adduh zeeund plodding wifde anizuls. uggauggauggabuggaugga. Flinkeks simple moocid immigrate Rubby Plaster bee adzuend plown thaniminimals. 0000GGGGAAAAMMMMMMMUUUUUGGGGGGAAAAA. Or Jimmy Page throwing up on his guitar while the crowd cheers and Yardbirds fans in legion descend to grasp his sweaty palm. (Except he only does it twice- reeeeeeeeskrofeeeeer) Oar Jammy Pig trang ape onis git tarwell dacrow chair and Yiddybid fangs inlegos ref undu grapsis sweany pall. (Wwwwwwwwwhiigggggnnnnnnneeesssssssssstt tttt) There are myriads of wonderful bung-mung on this here record, there is a whole in the center and if they would only change their name to their reel nom de plumeata they could be filled in my record collec tion as the only bandie after Zappa, Rank. (Zep-rimes with hep.) What is a Led Zeppily? I have oftimes asked of my own selfhead this questlung upon retiring to my bed patterns. Or sometimes, how is a Red Zipper not a Load Zoppinsky? Many times there is no answer and they refuse to do it for ya. I really dung this requiem a lot.-Alexander Icenine/(Dec. 1970)
Cream and Clapton most overrated band and guitarist ever period. Zeppelin and Page completely buried them in absolute significance and musical scope, influence, catalog legacy along with the incredible breath of Pages guitar playing in history. What a joke these critic clowns were
Exactly! I saw Clapton in concert, worst concert I ever saw, & I wasn’t the only one who thought so. Charlie Daniel’s opened, we kept begging for more encores, & got 2 or 3. Nobody wanted an encore from Clapton. I also saw Jeff Beck, thankfully it was a free ticket, nothing impressive about him either. I’m glad the one critic put Page up with Hendrix, my opinion Page is the greatest.
Zepp. No question. Rush always had the "nerd' component to make RS be condescending after the fact. Also Robert Plant was better looking than Geddy lol and that...pissed off the critics. Hahahhaha
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Fair! 😂😂😂 Jealousy is a bitch. But they at least understood Zep, at least by #4, I’m not sure they understood Rush until well into the 21st century when many apologies were made.
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Note at 45:39. I said Jimmy Page's birthday in 1983 was him turning 44 but it was actually his 39th birthday. Got my stats mixed from the OUTRIDER period. Thanks@disneyfamily5158 for spotting this!
No AI voices, please. It distracts..... 😔 I prefer your distinct (human) voice. Just my opinion, thanks. ✌
I love all your videos. Been a fan since the excellent In Through The Out Door videos.
I'd be interested in seeing more on Robert Plant's individual solo albums. Greetings from Kobe.
I read your reply... LOL. Using AI to make the critics voices much more annoying worked on me In that case, please ignore my criticism. 😉
I look forward to the next Zep video (and your performances). 👍
I Would say MM that the AI Dehumanizes these Imbeciles which I Personally have Absolutely NO Issue with
I noticed the Vivaldi 4 seasons at the beginning as background music.
what was the other stuff?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories It was actually a test! You are the Man !!
Rolling Stone magazine- the greatest contradiction in rock and roll. They've always been shite.
I'm not a huge fan of Led Zep. But back when the print media meant something, Jann Wenner could blow a snot rocket at you and wreck your career. Daryl Hall has some things to say about Wenner.
the only good thing about rolling stone magazine is that if i run out of toilet paper, i know what i can use to wipe my own stinky ass. that magazine hasn't had said anything of note for nearly 30 years. plus, why should we take anything seriously from that shitstain?
100% agree. Crap magazine
Over the Hills and Far Away is “dullsville” ? The Rain Song “falls flat on its face” ? Two of the most beautiful acoustic rock songs ever, that are absolute classics 50 years later.
When I purchased Zeppelin 3 I ran home and laid on my bed with headphones on
As I listened to "that's the way" I was dozing in and out of dreaming. The song made me so sad because a friend of mine committed suicide about a week before. I will never forget that moment in my young life, and it brought Led Zeppelin closer to me in my own mind and touched my soul forever.
I was personally linked to the Mighty Led Zeppelin...and still am!
Robert Plant would later dismiss John Mendelsohn's critique writing prose as nothing but the bitchings of a "frustrated musician." (Mendelsohn now runs a blog called "A Yank On The Edge Of England" where he writes about music while occasionally maintaining his tiresome, long-standing hatred for Zeppelin. An excerpt: "I like melody, wit, vocal harmony and expressiveness, all of which are lacking from Led Zeppelin. It's all just showing off.")
"Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place then come down and shoot the survivors." - Ernest Hemingway.
(PS: The discombobulated AI voice reading the "I see the sunlight in your eyeeeeeeee..." passage from Kurt Loder's "Pictures At Eleven" review had me howling! 😂🤣)
Thanks for this, Jose... "The toast is made yet again..."
Is John MendelHead DEAF ? Apparently he’s NEVER HEARD the Ole’ Proverb Credited to a Certain Mr. Jackson: “It Ain’t Bragging if it’s True”
Omg, the A.I. voice throughout had me howling. Especially the one where everything in quotes was said LOUDER...😂😂
You work at an unbelievable pace & the quality never suffers.
I look forward to these segments & thank you for your hard-work.
In the early 70’s, like many teenagers, I fell under the spell of “progressive” FM radio, which rejected the Top 40 format for playing deep album cuts, never the same song twice in one day. Part of that ethos was reading Rolling Stone. I even went so far as to subscribe to the magazine for a couple of years and actually READ it cover to cover. I fancied myself as “progressive”, when in reality, I was just another confused teenager. I thought the magazine had an “alternative” vision for the world of music, when in fact it was just entertainment for a relativistic culture that didn’t know what it wanted. That became more apparent as it morphed into a uber-commercialized Top-40-ish slick magazine by the 1980’s, more concerned with selling full page ads for The Gap than challenging the radio-enforced musical tastes of its readers. Worst of all were their horrid reviews of everything Led Zeppelin. I was thoroughly enjoying the blistering guitars and crazy rhythms of Presence when they published Stephen Davis’ dismissive review, informing me how philistine my tastes were. Now they publish “greatest” lists like “greatest guitarists of all time” or “greatest singers” when most of their writers and readers couldn’t discern a vocal chord from a vibrator. Rolling Stone is garbage. Its publisher is an unfortunate disordered man clinging to a vision that means nothing. Save it for the bottom of the bird cage.
I can distill it all into one sentence. Rolling Stone has become the very thing it once purported to despise: The Establishment.
exactly. jann wenner is a moron. he likes to celebrate mediocrity. even if it's a bad record from bruce springsteen, the stones, and U2 and think of it as the greatest thing ever. no wonder his most recent book flopped.
Here here on both comments.
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The fact that nearly every review refers to Zeppelin as "Heavy Metal" tells us everything we need to know.
They are clueless.
yup....that terminology is tiring to say the least hehe. Thank you very much for watching!
Calling Zeppelin heavy metal by anyone drives me crazy, & I know the band hated it too. Rolling Stone certainly never had anything nice to say, about Led Zeppelin, no wonder they hated the press.
Every band with distortion was called “heavy metal” in the 70s, the subgenres weren’t defined yet and distortion was scary to a generation weened on Joni, Bob, and Peter Paul & Mary.
"Heavy Metal" was the common "box" to put them in. It sure wasnt "folk" or "Jazz" or "Rock n Roll" or "Rock"...it was a new genre and a new term that came to mean, later, in the late 70's, and 80's bands like Priest, et all...but in the late 60's and early 70's thats what it "was" ..it WAS "heavy metal" maaaaaannnnnn.....it meant "heavier" than "rock" with more FUZZ and HUGE solos. "Heavy" also meant "meaningful" or kinda just "MORE" of the THUD and LOUDER. Which LZ certainly was...."More EVERYTHING."
@@GINKBB I respectfully disagree. Zeppelin was far too diverse and eclectic to ever be considered HM. I get your point that it was a new term floating out there, and that lazy "journalists" made liberal use of it for any band that was "heavy". But to say "it WAS "heavy metal", again, I must disagree.
Regardless, the RS critics were just so clueless and obnoxious overall, it really doesn't matter that they used that term. I brought it up in my comment simply as point of reference to their cluelessness. They had it out for Zeppelin from Day One. They also hated Progressive Rock. Well, Led Zeppelin is my favorite band overall, and Prog Rock is my favorite genre of music, so clearly, I have significant issues with that magazine and its critics.
Lol zep 1 is mindblowing considering its a first album
As a writer. I’m inclined to give most of these guys a break. It’s difficult to contextualize a brand new album with one or two listens, then write something that will hold up to scrutiny 50 years later. Plus, Jan Wenner ran RS with an iron fist, forcing writers to conform to his agenda. All that said, the most egregious has to be the review of the first album. They wanted the New Yardbirds so bad, their ears didn’t hear the record right.
Let’s not overlook the fact that all of these critics were completely ignored by Led Zeppelin and they had nothing to do with their success and critics hated that and that’s why they panned them so heavily
They didnt like Rush either.
But music listeners knew better.
Rolling Stone magazine is THE most over rated publication. What with their ego maniac publisher Jann Wenner and their insipid top 100 lists.
agreed. jann wenner is an aging queen with no taste. oh, and i will always enjoy the night when rush got inducted into the rock n roll hall of fame. you could tell the sense of disdain in his voice over them being inducted as he went... "and from toronto..." in that monotone voice and then FANS SCREAMED so loud. the roof went out of the building as everyone went nuts while geddy and alex's moms gave jann the finger. he was fuming. to be insulted by two old jewish ladies.
Some of Rolling Stone magazine anti LZ stance in those early days was due to the magazine’s snobbery when it came what it considered the canon…The Beatles, Dylan, solo Beatles, Hendrix, Clapton, CSNY, The Band, Janis, etc. For some reason, in those early days, LZ were seen as overblown and a cheap knock off of Cream. Another factor is that Grant deliberately created a wall between LZ and the press. Grant was not well liked by many in the press and the feeling was mutual. What’s interesting is that Albert Grossman kept Dylan away from the press after Dylan’s motorcycle accident. Grossman also had The Band relatively hidden from press in their early days too. I suppose though, Rolling Stone worshipped Dylan so his being press shy was seen as “mysterious”, whereas LZ was seem as being obstinate and aloof.
They wasted far too many resources, as did much of the world, on overrated artists such as Dylan and Clapton.
When it came to musical chops, the Stones and The Who had nothing on the Zep.
Agreed! Not even the drugs and groupies :)
I only like maybe one or two songs from both those groups, while only not liking two of Zeppelin’s songs. Comparing Plants vocals to Rod Stuart’s vocals, & claiming Plant didn’t have range etc. WTF!
Good thing us fans didn’t pay attention to the shitty critics, pretending to be experts LMAO.
Its all a matter of taste innit? There is no better Led Zeppelin than Led Zeppelin. And I like Led Zeppelin. When I want to listen to Led Zeppelin nothing else will do. That said, I think the Who and the Stones are vastly better songwriters and have a for more diverse, experimental and creative lexicon of work. Simply put, better SONGS. much better songs.
The Stones were better songwriters because they had better melodies. Zepp were better arrangers, producers and performers. Everybody has a different strength. Meat Loaf's Bat out of Hell just plain sucks hahahha
And the Who were the best live band so take your pick
I heard that Led Zeppelin got all the girls, drugs and fun, the Rolling Stones reviewers went home alone. Please set the record straight.
Lol fact
You forgot the money
@@NealR2000 of course, the money!
@@NealR2000a lot of it gone due to law suits for ripping off other groups .
Rolling Stone Reviewers didn’t like girls.
I found myself chuckling loudly at both your sarcastic comments and the ignorance of some of the reviewers. Thanks for that!
My pleasure Steve! Imagine if The Sopranos were in the rock and roll management business...haha
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Well, maybe we should consider Peter Grant an honorary Soprano :)
Your new Zeppelin episode tomorrow……and then Montreal 75 footage on Sunday……and then to top it all off….. a solar eclipse on Monday!
What a time. Bring it on!!👍
Omg! When is this footage coming? I did not know about it man. Who is premiering it?
It’s coming out at 12:30 pm eastern time this coming Sunday the 7th. It’s 51 minutes of 8mm footage from Feb 6/1975 Montreal.
“Speedy” is the one releasing it. Same person that released the Pontiac 77 footage.
You should sign up for “Led Zeppelin News” which is free and they send out an email once a week on Zeppelin updates including Plant/Jones/Page updates…..and also “For Badge Holders” FBO which also sends out updates on the band. Cheers
Damnnn thats GREAT NEWS. I had exchanged Emails with Led Zep Film but never heard from him back. I bet he's been busy now i know why hehe. Montreal is a very good show from that dreaded Winter. I have another episode coming up on Sunday!
Holy shit! I LOVE that show! "Long live the pourbooster!"
I have the original korneyphone vinyl still...
That footage is KILLER. We've seen snippets. They're on yt.
@@crungefactoryI believe this is different footage of Montreal than the footage we’ve already seen uploaded on RUclips. This is a different person filming. There are two long 8mm films of Montreal….. one guy is holding off on fully releasing his film. He want too much money for it…he’s only shown the ten minute clip that is currently uploaded on RUclips. Sunday’s footage is new and has never been seen before. Cheers
@45:39 Jimmy Page's 39th birthday, actually....another fantastic piece of art, JCM. Thank you for all you do!
Oh, it was 39, got mixed up with 1988 for Outrider!!! sorry Thanks for watching!
Wow, Houses of the Holy really took both barrels from Rolling Stone. Seriously, how can you profess be a music lover and not listen in sheer awe and wonderment at The Rain Song?? Surely one of the finest songs composed by any band....ever?
Love your work JCM!
I heard that Robert's vocals and particularly his wording were affected by his recently acquired dentures after the '73 tour. You can see his dental woes in his closeups from TSRTS movie.
I don't know about you JCM, but I can't think of another band that can claim a better - or even close - demonstration of growth and development from start to finish of their careers (except for The Fab Four, of course). Sometime after discovering Zep then becoming huge fanatics (mid 1974), my best buddy and I read some of these RS reviews. He looked at me at one point and remarked "did these guys listen to the same records we are?" My specific and personal problem with RS was the way they slammed Presence - Plant always claimed that their albums were a "statement of where they were at the moment." Taking their major travails after Physical Graffiti into account, they responded with a monstrously powerful album with possibly Bonzo's best perfoemance and Page expanding his "guitar army."
Don't tell anyone but i think Presence is a better album that Graffiti. No Outtakes, no long sections repeated just because, but INNOVATION. Achilles is QUITE the workout that keeps things fresh. I think The Beatles and Led Zeppelin are the only bands to grow and develop without EVER resorting to revolving door of bandmates. Thank you very much for watching!
Thank you for inserting clips of the Sopranos and Scarface.
As I was watching, I was saying the exact same things, and then -BAM- a clip that reflects what I just shouted.
Cheers!
🙂
Tony Soprano had the makings of a rock and roll manager :) Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories James Gandolfini would have been a great choice to play Peter Grant in a Bio Pic of the band.
🙂
And the guy playing CHRIS MOLTISANTI looks like Early Day Robert only not as tall of course.
When I had read Rolling Stone made fun of John Bonham’s drumming and lack of skill about Physical Graffiti, it was so absurd I actually started laughing. A political magazine to never be taken seriously.
This was a fun video revisiting the reviews. Stuff you just dont hear of unless you lived it. The difference in reviews (besides ignorance and lack of knowledge) only proves that individuals have different outlooks, social constructs, expectations and preferences. Some wanted a social commentary of what was going on at the time (war), some wanted the psychedelia of the music to mimic the new drugs, some wanted folk / hippy vibes, some wanted hard rock. Through all of the reviews, each Critic said Zepp got at least one thing right for them. What more can you ask of legends? You can't please all of the people all of the time, but you can give it a shot if you're Zepp.
Imagine being a writer for a Skiing magazine or a Surfing magazine and you don't Ski or Surf. Non musicians lol commenting on musicians...? Bottom line Rolling Stone Mag *has no credentials.* So that makes them a foolish mockery beyond JOKE.
Bad analogy. The equivalent would be music writer who was deaf. ‘Imagine being a music writer who couldn’t listen’. Rolling Stone had an opinion you disagreed with, that’s all. No big deal.
@@swirlingfudge Their "opinion" had no credentials *that's all* I'm saying.
Yes we are initialed to an opinion I totally get that, but when you cross that line and 'criticize' [which everyone is also initialed to do] and then you publicize it in a "professional magazine" and you don't know even what an open E string is lol it just makes you look super foolish, doesn't hold any weight. Credentials credentials credentials. Peace
exactly. depeche mode never got a good review from them until 2017 with "spirit" yet dave gahan's response to that positive review was "they're still cunts".
Just curious, then can you not critique a film if you are not a director? or a restaurant if you are not a chef? A sports team or player if you are neither? A book if you are not an author? A building if you are not an architect? Or a POLITICIAN or elected official if you are not one yourself?
You can as long as you don't pretend to have first hand experience therefore doing some research of the craft helps, this is what old time journalists did and investigative journalists too...you know before they became tools for advertising :) i see many critics who DO NOT conduct their research properly.
Most critics, in any field, are just people frustrated in their ambitions so they distill their venom by criticizing the famous, rich and successful... who cares about them? I don't care at all, I have my own opinion and follow my heart, the rest...is the rest
Zeppelin turned everything and everyone on their head.
Somehow, someway Zeppelins popularity was hurting Rolling Stones “back pocket” and rather than join the wave RS chose to fight it. THEY LOST
I can see the narrative this magazine tried to play, and the more we see the big picture, it's obvious they were political tools unfortunately. Led Zeppelin on the other hand, bringing people together! Thank you very much for watching!
GREAT ANALYSIS OF THE ZEP REVIEWS. BUT I THINK THE COVERDALE PAGE ALBUM WAS ONE OF THE BEST OF THE 1990S AND HAS SOME OF JIMMYS GREATEST GUITAR WORK! TO ME ITS THE MOST ZEP SOUNDING MUSIC SINCE ZEP DISBANDED AFTER BONZO'S PASSING.
It does! Proud owner of that album. Shake my Tree is killer! Thanks for watching!
This was hard to watch,pissed me off.
One of your best documentaries..Lester Bangs invented trolling….but the early reviews reveal how LZ confused the critics….there is no reference point. Robert Plant came out of no where…same with Bonham. Page and Jones were session men so had a huge versatility….so what could it be compared to at the time? Yardbirds? Cream? Roger Daltrey? No no no. Only. By PG do critics get it….the tone changes… also critics never accounted for the band’s popularity…
I watched this and listened to it, but it was quite a downer. They put these writers on a pedestal and set them free. There were some good things said, but a lot of these guys hated them before even hearing the album for their selves. I think Led Zeppelin is a band that was separated from all that hogwash. They didn’t need to title an album or even write the band name on a cover. The real fans would find it and Zeppelin let you into their world. Even after decades of listening to them, I don’t judge, I experience. And I’m entirely grateful for the experience!
Rolling Stone is such a rag !
They foisted The Greatful dead & U2 on the idiots. Never was a rock magazine I was a lifestyle magazine for the Beige & Confused…
Jose awesome fun episode. Rolling stone was ughhhh to Zep. Speedy YT new Zep coming i think tomorrow night 50 plus mins Montreal 77 8mm.🤘🏼
Very Cool🎉
Finally!
John Henry Bonham's SWING acknowledged.
Imagine killer Zepp Riffs with a drummer on top of the beat..😮
"Kashmir" for example.
Bonzos slight beat motion makes it work.
To me anyway.
&
Thank you❤
All in one place!
Love the collection of the infamous Rolling Stone Bad (and seemingly motivated by something..) reviews.
"Physical Graffiti" review great.
You take the swing away from Zepp and you have NOTHING. This makes finding the right personnel for a tribute band so difficult hehe. Thank YOU for watching!
Interesting that early reviewers note that Zeppelin is white. Jimmy a talented “white” blues guitarist. I guess there were still purists who believed that only black people could pull off real blues.
They weren’t purists. They were leftists and no doubt still are. Such comments were virtue-signaling - suburban white guys defending the legacy of black men they’d never welcome into their neighborhoods
I really enjoyed this, definitely something different than I expected.
Once again, great job, Jose 🍺
Editing this was hard, as i had to create all the images and set up the voices. Glad you enjoyed this one Keith! THanks man!
Gotta admit Jose this is best thing you’ve released in quite a while💪🏻
Rolling Stone HATED Chicago also.
They trashed Chicago V, 1972, which was #1 for 8 consecutive weeks.
Rock “critics” loved garbage like the New York Dolls and Zappa. They also automatically loved girl junk like Blondie and The Runaways
Some people choose knee jerk counterintuition (good=bad, bad=good) as a cheap route to attention
I think Mendelson REALLY ripped Chicago a new one somewhere along the line. 1975?
Zappa and garbage should never be in the same sentence. For your blasphemy you will be forced to listen to britney spears for eternity.
Rolling Stone magazine is one of the silliest most pretentious and obnoxious publications ever published. Those reviews were amusing for their stupidity and lack of intelligence of its subject matter. However, Kaye, Miller, and Loder especially provided well written reviews. The rest just sounds like sour grapes. Now it's like they never wrote those reviews because of their revisionist love of the band. Great work JCM.
Even John Bonham’s September 26th, 1980 obituary in The NY Times written by John Rockwell has some degree of snark. I believe his drumming was described as something like overly heavy. Even the story of his death was covered merely in the obituary pages and not anywhere near the front pages. Back then with newspapers like The NY Times, there was serious news for the front pages and the death of a rock musician was relegated to maybe the Arts section and obituary pages (Elvis and Lennon being exceptions). It is interesting to see how LZ were seen by many in the press throughout their career. It’s an important part in understanding them as it provides much context.
The entire world should see the NYT with perfect clarity in 2024. Hard to be more loathsome
@@willard2729I used to read it pretty regularly growing up and I would learn a lot about domestic and foreign affairs. Its writers were incredible informative. Granted, it was elitist but it was educational…and fairly non bias. It’s so different today as everything is.
@@drummer78 The NY Times today is an ultra-liberal-woke newspaper. (And, for the record, I am not a conservative or Trumpanzee.)
Thank you for this much needed critique of Rolling Stone magazine attitude towards Zeppelin. I can somewhat forgive RSM for the awful review of Zeppelin I. Zeppelin I came out during the height of flower power, hippie protesters and "all we need is love" era. RSM missed the point that sometimes music can simply be just about the music. No messaging needed and we're taking a no prisoners approach and going balls out. If RSM went to one of their concerts in 69-71 they might have understood Zeppelin. Zeppelin was the right band at the right time for ppl who wanted to have a great time and leave their troubles behind. I'm halfway through the video. You're doing a great job with your RUclips channel. I look forward to more deep dives into the "Hammer of the Gods"
Good stuff brother.
Rolling Stone, perpetually on the wrong side of hostory.
Fun and comical retrospective of the times! Thanks for putting this together JCM!
I was young at the time, still at school the closing remarks re a review in Sounds, NME or Melody Maker can't remember which publication regarding Physical Graffiti stated "Rock Lives and How" saved up my pocket money and bought the cassette on the strength of that comment...no regrets. I'm pushing 65 now 😊❤
My Dad used to say, "Opinions are like as*holes, everybody's got one!" I can't remember a time in my life when I bought an album, or didn't buy an album based on a review. I have never gone to see a movie, or not gone to see a movie based on a review. I have not done either of those things, regardless if it was positive or negative. Music is like the women you prefer, I don't know why, I just like her. She does something for me, whatever that may be. The trick is to like what you like without getting too concerned about the why of it all, just enjoy it. I can't take the stance of an immovable "fanboy" either! You have to be able to be honest about it because, I don't want to hear music I don't particularly connect with, anymore than being with a woman that I can no longer be with and still look myself in the mirror! That's the way life is. My Dad (who was married and divorced 3 times) gave me some good advice he told me, "The only reason you should marry someone, is because you can not live without them!" "Otherwise, you're just counting the days until your next divorce!" Even though I have not always loved them, I CAN NOT live without them!
Your accent isn’t a problem. I don’t have any trouble understanding what you say.
On *Physical Graffiti* - in addition to phasing his electric guitars, producer Jimmy Page used the effect on Robert Plant’s vocals - presumably, to further accentuate his newly slight rasp - perhaps?
Oh, and on a side note - in the summer of 1983 - with each trip to my local shopping mall - I too had developed a habit of buying - yet another copy of - *In Through The Out Door*
You had an ITTOD habit haha, that's awesome man! I think phasing Robert's voice was for this reason you mention yes. The instrument changed, so the mixing had to change.
Though I do find some of Lester Bang's reviews enjoyably quirky, Rolling Stone has repeatedly shown itself to be malignant bullshit and unworthy of even being crumpled up and stuffed next to kindling to start a bonfire at a campsite.
Ah the magazine that pretends to know about music & us musicians🙄👍
Yeah, they pretend...maybe that's why the treat The Pretenders like deities? Haha. Thank you very much for watching!
Another great video, good work! I have mutual friends of Lenny Kaye (Patti Smith's main collaborator) and they say Lenny is the best! As far as Lester Bangs, even as an 11-year-old I would skim through his convoluted CREEM reviews searching for anything cohesive in between the bratty redundancy. Then there's the idiot who took D'yer Mak'er serious!? Even Zep hate it but without the reggae label it's one of the sexiest damn songs ever.
I you can, tell Lenny i salute him for his review, VERY well done, he was classy enough to state what he didn't like with style. D'yer Ma'ker is a FUN song and the DRUMS....the heavy sounding kit Carries the tune really, it's a celebration piece indeed! Thank you very much for watching!
The theme seems to be, "I hate your stuff, how dare you change your style at all?!" 😂
Hahahhaha! Thank you very much for watching!
Re: Presence & Stephen Davis.
A few years ago he published a book called "LZ '75" talking about his experiences writing and traveling on the '75 tour. He tells about how he heard Graffiti a couple of weeks before it came out and how he liked it. He mentions his review of Presence, but states that it's his favorite Zeppelin album to this day. He doesn’t mention why he gave the album such a snarky review. I guess is that he was still bitter about how he was treated by the band and Richard Cole on the tour. Fun book.
That was really terrific and your interventions were hilarious. Tremendous work.
I still wanna see Tony Montana and Tony Soprano driving to Rolling Stone offices to have a quick meeting with the staff haha. Thank you very much for watching!
Immigrant Song is one of LZ best songs that needs to be played loud all the time.
Most definitely Eric, what a number and i love the studio version has no guitar solo, because you WANT IT there! Hehe
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I named my WI-FI network after a line in the Immigrant Song (We are your overlords)! I'm happy that you showed the picture of Page and Plant on stage with Bad Company, I was at that show!
I still don't know how these critics get paid for this bull shit !!!
Absolutely, they were off!!!!
Hello J. Brilliant work as ever
Great analysis. UK music press from Prescence onward ('NME' highly critical as they were enthralled with Punk and New Wave, viewed LZ as dinosaurs), ('Melody Maker' slightly more positive 1976 headline "Zeppelin Storm Back" but they leaned to more arty stuff Genesis, Yes, viewed Townshend & Jagger very positively) ('Sounds' had a bunch of excellent rock journalists Barton, Burchill , to a lesser degree (punk man] Bushell). They were a critical of Prescence & ITTOD, as they were at forefront (me too) of NWOBHM that was fabulous & vibrant at the time.
WoW Excellent & Very Interesting Subject Matter. Another Winner-Thanx Jose !!
My pleasure! Poor Houses of the Holy got a beating there haha. Thanks for watching!
The idea of using different voices is great, because many times I listen without watching, and this is much easier to discern. Thank you for this kind of re-review. So much of what the average fan might say today is hearsay, but without checking out all the past archives and searching for accuracy.. ADD: at the 4:42 mark, the text increases slowly, it got me real dizzy. Anyone else experience this?
Sorry for the dizziness hehe, i just wanted to add some dynamics and not have static text! Glad you enjoyed this one. it was fun to revisit this Rolling Stone heresy!
Excellent video, thank you.
Way to go! Mendelsohn said in " Kinks Kronikles" book that Robert Plant read excerpts of the RS review from the stage in some CA gig demanding Mendelsohn approach the stage. ELP were attacked by the critics too. Critics get the album for free then get paid for a review. I read over in England a certain writer didnt even attend a certain concert . He was at the bar and asked people leaving about the show
I'm actually preparing to review this review of Rolling Stone's reviews.
"Crítica de la crítica crítica", que hubiese titulado (Karl) Marx... 🙄😅😂
Do you mind if I write my thoughts on that, when you’re done?
Please do share!
Another Great one, Houses of the holy was the most brutal, he just didn't get it, Keep em comming my Friend!!..
Yeah Gordon Fletcher really gave that album a beating. Like i said, i understand why.....(not agree of course), but after IV there's no way D'yer Ma'ker sounded like the same band hahahahah. Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories welcome, that of course is what made zep Awesome,..Diversity..
I enjoy the series you've put together, great collection of stories and photos. On this one, the AI narration kinda detracts - it doesn't emphasize the words correctly which is kinda jarring.
So the AI Voice was done on purpose so critics sound even more lifeless, like magazine robots. This is why :) Hope you enjoyed the episode!
I am Cuban and when I heard LZ for the first time I was 16 years old, my life changed forever, reminding them that I lived under a regime that imprisoned you for just listening to the "enemy's music" but nothing mattered anymore their music was a new world to live in
One of my best friends lived in Cuba, raised there and trust me i understand what you mean. The power of music is INFINITE!
And the magazine is even a bigger joke today.
Great toilet paper for dogs it is haha Thanks for watching!
I've always loved to read original reviews of famous records and record sales numbers of tge first five years if a release. It tells you how people really felt about a record before years of radio changing the way they feel or saying they feel differently about an album because they're in the minority now. One and two were criticized tge same as van halen one and two as cock rock they knew would be popular. Some of the criticism of one I get but not 2 through physical graffiti. Presence seemed aimless and in a vacuum I get why some wouldn't like in through tge out door. I was such a zepplen mark that I loved them all
Page producing the albums was very unusual, but he didn't want a "record executive" second guessing his decisions. I think record sales pretty much says it all.
Yes, Jimmy's confidence, second to none. Even on In Through the Out Door, an album he seems to discard, his playing and choices are exquisite!
"Pay no attention to what the critics say. No statue has ever been put up to a critic" Jean Sibelius.
Wisdom!!! The only critics i read are musicians. Love Luis Nasser's reviews on Sea of Tranquility!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Exactamente... Al mismo Sibelius lo habían criticado mucho por ser muy "Romántico" y no estar alieneado con la "Avant-garde" musical de principios del siglo XX... Y ahora es recordado como uno de los mejores compositores que ha existido, es tocado en todo el mundo y es un símbolo para su país: Finlandia, junto a Nokia. Y toda ésa música "Avant-garde" de principios del siglo XX cayó casi en el olvido y los músicos casi no la tocan ya que sino la gente sale huyendo de los conciertos ya que es puro ruido 🤣🤣🤦 Y ya veo que a Led Zeppelin le pasó igual y para callar a ésos críticos ahora ellos son uno de los grupos de rock más conocidos y quienes han vendido más en la historia!
A memorable quote from hammers of the Gods was that the young teenage brothers and sisters of the critics were the ones who loved Led Zeppelin the most, and for this they would never be forgiven by the establishment.
Good review on Graffiti but man White Room, i would not mess with that one haha
White Room is a fitting title for a 70s past time hahah
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Maybe it didn't hade so prominent sound or production but calling "White Room" disjointed?
I guess they had to compare them back then, nowadays is clear that they were aiming different goals.
There's only one thing in common with all of them - selling magazines! It's also curious that the greatness of the band had come only after their end... an old clichet?! Great video as always :)
Whenever i see modern day Rolling Stone magazines with some kinda of Zeppelin related content i refuse to buy them....it's easy to cash in now right? Lester Bangs did not make rock history with these comments. The fact he was one big supporter of punk and new wave makes a Point Zappa tried to spread about Punk being a fad and a fashion product. Thanks for watching!
Goes to show what music writers know.
They probably regretted this decades later!
JCM, Ive followed you since the begining, this , and for some werid is my 2nd favourite eposide
after LIVE AID of course...I dig ur style caberon...can I get a TRU DAT!
Hey Sean, man thanks so much! Glad to know you feel this way about this episode. I remember the LIVE AID odyssey, quite a challenge it was. What did you like the most about this REVIEW episode?
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories... You got great insight with a splash of humor.. I watched it 3xs and laughed every time... This is just a thought, I realize that zep story's are fast coming to a end.. You should shed some insight on the bands that tragically never met they their potential... Like for example Bad Finger... There has to be and endless supply of those... Anyway just a thought.. Your great.. Doing God's work.. Peace
Cameron Crowe rules . Much props to that kid , at the time. for interviewing the heavy weights.
If I remember ITTOD got the best review..sorry JCM I know you love it..besides In The Evening and Carousel..their weakest effort due to Pages "Problems" The rest of the album is all filler and not even worthwhile of B side material..after Presence..which was stellar..ITTOD was a Limp Blimp
You do great work as I've told you
Keep it up!
I'm seventy and I remember back in highschool reading rolling stone and picking out what albums to buy. If they liked it I wouldnt and vice versa
Hi, JCM. You have the best Zep stuff on RUclips. I watch every one. Your voice over person on this is not good and hearing your commentary is much, much better. Can't tell if it is AI, but, at any rate, the stresses and tones and pauses and other stuff are quite bad. Sorry to mention this, but, I thought you might like to know. All of your work is very professional. I am the top voice talent in Taipei, I am from Chicago, and I would love to do some work with you about my fave band. I am not too expensive, so hit me up if you want to. I can easily tell how much work you put into these. Thank you for your time. Keep rockin!
So Mike this was A.I done on purpose to make critics sound LIFELESS haha and Robots. I narrate all my videos of course, but for this one i decided to change things around. So cool that you work professionally on voice talent, not sure i can afford you, maybe when i have more Patreons hehe. But i think we'll work together someday! Thanks for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Hello, sir, and thanks for the response. Yes, after over 20 years in Taipei, I am all over the radio and TV. But, how is this for price..I will do the first two recordings for free! I don't care about money, hard to believe, but, I just love recording. When you do the voice overs, they are perfect because you know your topic and your feelings are real. That makes a great recording. Anyway, no other Zep videos are even close to yours on RUclips because of your research and passion for the band. You drop in references from your life. And, Rolling Stone was always opposite for me...if RS disliked a band, I knew that I should check them out. From Cream to Grand Funk to Zep. They always had their heads up their asses. If you wish someday, we will find a way for me to email to you a couple demos of my work. And, I would love to do some voice work on a great Zep video. Even just intros and outros. Much continued success to you, JCM. I am looking forward to more videos of yours. Catch you later. Peace out from Taiwan.
P.S. One of my emails is extra9601@gmail.com mikeryan is not my real name
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Bonus for everyone...go check out guitarist Carl Baldassarre for the best J. Page riffs and Rick Beato, too. Enjoy!
Thanks zo much for this✌️ edit: Kurt Loder gets it
The Kurt The Loder was no free loather, he really loved this band hehe!
The style of 1970's era, Rock Magazine criticism merits a long overdue, critical review. The smug, drug-addled pomposity of many of the Rock magazine critics of that era reminded me of the proverbial, " Eunuchs at a Gang-Bang. " Much of their writing amounted to little more than sharing their own jealousy-ridden, wordy digressions in print. To borrow one of their own favorite descriptors, they " SUCKED."
Great idea and commentary but please take out the synthesizer Vivaldi!!!!
I knew Lenny Kaye wouldn’t disappoint. I’ve seen Lenny in several rock and punk documentaries throughout the years and he always brings his great musician perspective to the table.
And Kurt Loder always loved himself some Zeppelin and that’s saying something because Loder when he wanted to can be a sarcastic prick (usually he was right too). So it’s pretty cool to see him buck the trend of these other reviewers with their “Zeppelin is popular so I gotta shit on it” attitude. If you want a good laugh watch the “Year in Rock” episodes from the early 90s on RUclips and see how many snarky comments he gets in on the overly polished last gasps of hair metal.
As for David Fricke…I just bought a vinyl copy of that “so so” 1982 Death Wish II soundtrack! I had a fever and the cure was more Gizmotron. Fricke’s a pretty decent journalist himself though.
Pretty sure the last thing Lester Bangs heard when he died was the Human League’s Dare which has “Don’t You Want Me” on it. I never had the private jet experience but I may have dabbled in the other things listed there once or twice in my band days and needless to say yeah he never had those experiences. In the tradition of Spinal Tap’s Shark Sandwich and the infamous short review that was written on it my review of Lester Bangs is simply Lester does not indeed “Bang.”
Also what’s up with the rest of these reviewers just being so blatantly wrong that the passage of time has turned their opinions into some amazing comedy. And how dare some douche say “Carouselambra” is boring and too long…he needs to be smacked upside the head. Right along with Robert Christgau of the Village Voice whose reviews always seem to be opposite of how I feel about anything. If he told me the sky was blue I would be booking an optometrist appointment immediately.
Mendelsohn "spade imitation" . I'm not going to say what I think of this "critique". It'll make me as bad as him doing so.
11:14 --- I think the dance sequence with all the fire maidens actually works better with the Immigrant Song than the scene Bangs references. There's more going on with the multiple dancers, and they're pretty much in time with it.
PS --- cue Immigrant Song JUST before the maiden raises her hand to motion to the other fire maidens to begin their dance.
The song should end when that same maiden places her hand on one of the dudes they've just put to sleep. And he nods off. It works pretty perfectly.
Maybe we need to do a video of this, the song and this scene together. I see it could work most definitely! Thank you very much for watching!
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yeah I've done a version. Its a good sync, it has some key moments, it's not like "eerie" syncy, it's more like well timed. It works. A better sync is Godflesh's "Anthem" paired with a scene from Jesus Christ Superstar. Immigrant Song and Fire Maidens is "ok". Godflesh Superstar is something else ;)
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You're welcome, you do very well put together and researched videos :D
That Physical Graffiti reviewer Jim Miller missed Jeff Beck on his "most expanded the sonic ..." comment!
I always hated Rolling Stone. Nothing but drivel. Never cared for Lester Bangs either. Excellent comments about Lester, Jose. Excellent. 😅
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JCM, another winner here! 🤟
Rolling Stone is digital toilet paper. When it was in paper form it barely qualified as bird cage liner...
Digital Toilet Paper hahaha, that's a fitting description!
Great video as usual! Rolling Stone like the HOF chooses who they like and dislike and it is almost like a Fraternity...you are either in or on the outside looking "in". Led Zeppelin gets thrown under the bus on every record yet Bob Dylan could fart into a couch cushion and get 5 stars..... EVERY TIME! The list of Bands that Rolling Stone has trashed over the years is comical! At least Jan Wenner was FINALLY exposed as the snake oil salesman he has been over the years.....good riddance 🙏
Same folks that tried to sell me Television in the mid 70s
Hmmmmmm I couldn’t find one track recorded by any of the writers from Rolling Stone magazine. Critiquing those who can, by those who can’t, never carried much weight with me. I never saw that Zeppelin had an album coming out and said: “Wait! I need to make sure that, Rolling Stone likes the album and tells me how to listen to it!”
Question: Why did LZ not record a studio version of The Train Kept A Rollin?
I grew up with this music. Sorry I didn't read RS. Thought it was pretentious. But then most music criticism was. There were east coast reviewers that were trying to put the progressive genie back in the bottle and bring back the 2 and a half minute single. The Zep were revolutionary in the late 60s and early 70s. Today? I'm not sure.
I had a music critic in my country destroy my career very early with a nasty review after supporting me for a big break. The reason? A chick he liked, decided to like me temporarily. I had to start over from scratch. Many years later i met him at a supermarket, he asked me some trivial BS, i asked him, are you still an alcoholic? Sometimes these critics are very very troubled minds, hating is the only form of love they know. Sad. 1 out of 5 stars. Thank you very much for watching!
The rolling stone writers are still nerds til this day.
No, that's not fair to nerds!
I know this is a "Rolling Stone" review episode, BUT this is far and away my fave review ever. From Creem magazine Dec 1970:
LED ZEPPELIN
Led Zeppelin III
(Atlantic)
I’d like to write a review that does in print what Led Zeppelin does on record. I’d like to wrote a revue that do in print what Lid Zapulon daes in rakard. Eyed lak two wring a rongvue thang done an purnt hot Lug Zipperlin dig em ekred.
For example, you could imitate Robert Plant being at the zoo and playing with the animals-ughoooeekkkkzzzzughughugh. Flour ecks sample who cowed imiganite Rudder Plunk bing adduh zeeund plodding wifde anizuls. uggauggauggabuggaugga. Flinkeks simple moocid immigrate Rubby Plaster bee adzuend plown thaniminimals. 0000GGGGAAAAMMMMMMMUUUUUGGGGGGAAAAA.
Or Jimmy Page throwing up on his guitar while the crowd cheers and Yardbirds fans in legion descend to grasp his sweaty palm. (Except he only does it twice- reeeeeeeeskrofeeeeer) Oar Jammy Pig trang ape onis git tarwell dacrow chair and Yiddybid fangs inlegos ref undu grapsis sweany pall. (Wwwwwwwwwhiigggggnnnnnnneeesssssssssstt tttt)
There are myriads of wonderful bung-mung on this here record, there is a whole in the center and if they would only change their name to their reel nom de plumeata they could be filled in my record collec tion as the only bandie after Zappa, Rank. (Zep-rimes with hep.)
What is a Led Zeppily? I have oftimes asked of my own selfhead this questlung upon retiring to my bed patterns. Or sometimes, how is a Red Zipper not a Load Zoppinsky? Many times there is no answer and they refuse to do it for ya.
I really dung this requiem a lot.-Alexander Icenine/(Dec. 1970)
Cream and Clapton most overrated band and guitarist ever period. Zeppelin and Page completely buried them in absolute significance and musical scope, influence, catalog legacy along with the incredible breath of Pages guitar playing in history. What a joke these critic clowns were
Exactly! I saw Clapton in concert, worst concert I ever saw, & I wasn’t the only one who thought so. Charlie Daniel’s opened, we kept begging for more encores, & got 2 or 3. Nobody wanted an encore from Clapton. I also saw Jeff Beck, thankfully it was a free ticket, nothing impressive about him either.
I’m glad the one critic put Page up with Hendrix, my opinion Page is the greatest.
when Rolling Stone put Men at Work on the cover of the issue with a black band for the immortal
Muddy Waters passing ll plotzed
Wry use of Irony from the guy did the voice for Cat in Shrek and won't admit to it! 😅
Who do you think RS dismissed more, Zep or Rush?
Zepp. No question. Rush always had the "nerd' component to make RS be condescending after the fact. Also Robert Plant was better looking than Geddy lol and that...pissed off the critics. Hahahhaha
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Fair! 😂😂😂 Jealousy is a bitch. But they at least understood Zep, at least by #4, I’m not sure they understood Rush until well into the 21st century when many apologies were made.
Believe me, I’m the biggest ZEPPELIN fan, but I love the Vivaldi play in the background!
Led Vivaldi, can't go wrong right? Thanks for watching
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories - I try to listen to both every day!
Four Seasons and Four Sticks
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories -Yes sir!