I just picked up a 1 owner ‘03 V8 4Runner with 146k miles and all maintenance service records including its original window sticker for $4k from my old man’s real estate customer yesterday!! Apparently, 6 months ago she went outside to start it and nothing happened, so she went out and bought a brand new TRD for $65k. She offered to have it towed and “fixed” for me since I think she really just needed it moved off the property of her old house.. I told her that might not be necessary, and yesterday I drove out to her place with a new battery, my girlfriend, and $4k in hand. I put in the new battery and it started right up (of course). It runs PURRRFECT!! Needs a good detail after sitting for as long as it has, but I definitely got the deal of a lifetime!! Can’t wait to start building it out!!
I've had my V8 Limited 4Runner for about 2 years now and you've helped me a ton, since day one! I remember looking up your video about things to watch out for when buying one, on the way to meet the guy to check the vehicle out. One of the best decisions I've made to buy this thing - I got it for $4,800 USD with 153k miles. Thanks for the content, keep it up, you make us 4th gen owners feel great!!!
I totally get you on the pricing on the 4th and 5th Gen. 4Runners. I had a fully built 4th Gen with the V8 and I thought I'd never sell it, until someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse (yep, prices are crazy.) I used that opportunity to buy a brand new 5th Gen TRD ORP. Yep - crazy expensive, but I don't have any regrets, honestly. I LOVE my new 2022 (now 2 YO) 4Runner in Lunar Rock.
I have had both and if you dont plan on towing major weight then 6 cylinder is where is at. Part time 4wd gives u better MPG plus a timing Chain instead of a belt and all kinds of room to work under the hood. Just my opinion
I grew up in pakistan and moved to pnw for grad school. This truck's twin goes by name of Hilux Surf has a fierce reputation that it can go anywhere from rugged mountains to desert and snow. I always wanted it back in the day. After moving to north america I got my first 3rd gen 4runner. It was rwd but still feels very capable on rough terrain. About a month ago I found a v6 4th gen 4runner just under 5 grand! It runs and drives so good. I deep cleaned and shampooed it (there was a mouse carcass in the cabin air filter :D). The mechanic said its solid, and just had to do the rear axle seal. Happy that the v6 has timing chain so I didn't have to do that like on the 3rd gen. Have been watching your channel and very inspired to do new tires and lift soon!
I also own a 2003 V-8. it is a rear wheel drive limited edition model that I picked up about a year ago and it is very reliable. Relatively flat torque curve and it pulls like a freight train.
My 2006 Ltd with the V8 has 296,790 kms, still running like new…keeping it until it rolls over and dies, changed the suspension and had the timing belt and water pump changed twice
Great video. One year I got a 2006 SR5 for my teen-aged son and daughter, sadly not the V8, but I could not be happier. I shopped and shopped and though I live in TUcson, AZ, I found this one at a small lot in Phoenix. Great condition, only flaw on my inspection was a torn outer CV boot. They knocked $250 off the price, and I got it for $10250 with 180,000 miles. Went through and changed oil, transfer case, and differential fluids. Only problem since has been a light bulb here and there. Could not be happier. Solid Toyota, maintain it well, be happy! Thanks for your videos.
I love the 4Runner in general but between my wife’s 2010 limited and my 04 SR5 V8 I absolutely love my 4th gen. PO did a lot of modern updates to the interior. Apple car play head unit, remote start, and a back up camera. Love how smooth the V8 is as well!
Had a 98 sr5 for 18 years, loved that truck, presently driving a 2004 sr5 , one owner, in amazing condition. Will never sell it. Black beauty like yours.
Well, just order my TRD PRO Ice Cap 2024 4Runner delivery date is end of this December can’t wait for it. Great video in price comparison I have owned a Toyota Truck since 86 and there’s no way I’m missing out on the last chance to get a legendary Toyota 4Runner no matter what the price is!!!
I totally agree. The only reasons I would want a 5th gen would be the front grill (Still looks sweet) and the offroad features. However, you can add an aftermarket locking diff. to the 4th gen and still have the luscious V8.
That's what I did with my 2007 v8 salsa red sport edition 4th gen put arb Air lockers front and rear with dual arb compressor and air tank external bumper Air couplers
i had a 2008 2wd V6 4runner and I loved that thing. it was only till I started offroading more seriously that I noticed that 4wd was kinda necessary for me. So I bought the 2012 OG 5th Gen 4WD, I got a good deal on it and I really like it. I do miss my old 4th Gen but couldn't keep it with it only being 2WD.
Recently got me an '05 Limited V8 4WD sometime after selling my 3rd gen. Best vehicle I ever owned already. It's up there with the super nice 09 Tacoma I used to have.
Just got an 03 v8 for $4400 in July and we love it. Plenty of features and nice touches (sport edition), 19-20 mpg, only some rust, 210k but in good condition.
He's not getting that mileage IMHO. You cant trust the trip odometer / MPG computer info. If that is actual miles divided by actual gallons of gas, I would be shocked. They just don't get that mileage, period. I have a 2006 with V6, one size larger than factory tires. Trip computer shows with careful driving about 18 mpg; pen and paper math at the gas pump is closer to 16.
i own both a 4th and 5th gen….both are uniquely special with their features and capabilities. although both engines are 4l v6, the 5th gen has a revised engine with automatic valve adjustments and dual vvti, while the 4th gen has the easiest oil filter location for service great video.
No one ever seems to mention that the 4th Gen V6 comes with selective mode four wheel drive. It is not offered in the 5th Gen in the US. I appreciate being able to use AWD in variable onroad conditions (i.e. spots of ice and snow) but still retain rear wheel drive for better gas mileage and wear. I especially find low range AWD for maneuring my travel trailer into campspots!
What do you mean? The 5th gens come with selective 4WD. You can select to go into 4WD or stay in 2WD. The only 5th gen that doesn’t have that are the 2x4 ‘s and the limited that comes with full time 4WD
@@randyshein1453 4th gen v6's have a selection of: 2wd, AWD high (4wd open t-case), 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), 4wd low AWD (open t-case) and 4wd low (50\50 locked t-case). 5th gen's, excluding Limited, has: 2wd, 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), and 4wd low (50\50 locked center diff). The beauty of the Selective Mode t-case is the ability to switch into AWD (under 50ish mph) on the fly under slippery conditions. Think of it like the opposite of how a typical Subaru AWD system works. Instead of a front biased AWD system (Subaru), the 4th gen 4runner Select Mode t-case allows for a REAR biased AWD system. The only 5th gen 4runner that comes close to this anymore is the Limited version. That is what @billthompson301 was getting at. All 4th gen V6's come this way. And besides slippery road conditions that @billthompson301 mentioned, which I have used consistantly every winter so close to the Sierra Nevada's, I personally use it for corrugated\chewed up graded hill climbs when off road. Having a small portion of the power to the front wheels pulling while the rears push is awesome.
I owned a 4th gen for 8 years and a 5th gen for 3 years. 5th gen is much better in almost every way except for not having a v8. Although I drive slow so to me it don't matter lol.
The V6 is a turd of a boat anchor. Reliable but boring. The 2UZFE is far superior. I’ve worked on many and they simply have very few issues and good torque for towing.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 4.7 V8 will go a million mikes if you take care of it, my 2003 4Runner has 325,000 miles, the vehicle will out live me.
I love everything about my 2003 limited and the power of 8, replaced rim with Tacoma, with 240000 miles without any repair or replace main parts, still works like it is not ON, when i stop on red lights, but I am not sure about replace the timming belt , becuse i do not trust any mechanic to touch my car. LOS ANGELES
Man you’re one of the only people fourth gen content. I think every time I’ve done anything to my 06 I’ve looked your videos up first. Maybe I should start making some of my own content, seems like there’s an opening in the space.
I got one big bonus of the 5th gen. They are part time 4wd compared to full time 4wd. And you can get the 5th gen trds with manual transfer cases. That my biggest bonus of the 5th gen. They both are great 3rd gen still the king.
Hello my Gen 5 in 2015 was 37k(4x4 SR5) got it for 34k due to LEO(GO PIGS!) discount. Was about to trade for lesser car, my wife said I will take your 4Runner and you can trade in my Accord. So I got a 2017 Sequoia(SR5 4x4) with that 5.7, I think of it as a 4Runner with more room and better engine. Both these vehicles at 105k 4R , Sequoia at 83k are rock solid. Thanks for helping me see the potential in my current autos, 4Runner been paid off for 2 years Sequoia is like 3 payments and she is all mine!!!!
I have an 08 V8 4X4 sport and I like the way the V8 drives more then the new ones. I don't like how the window switches are so high, as I normally put my left arm on there. I also appreciate the soft close rear hatch, but that's pretty minor. The new ones are really nice too but if I was going to get a new one I think I'll just wait until it's actually modernized with the 6th gen. As of now I'd just be going from old truck to slightly newer old truck, which losing the main thing I like about the old one.
I just finished installing Bronze with black lip fuel Covert D696 wheels and just finished Front and Rear Arb Air Lockers for my axles plus on board Dual arb Air Compressor and external air quick couplers and arb front and rear Diff breathers and transmission and transfercase breathers
I have a white 4th gen. 2007 SR5 so I can’t turn off traction control which sucks. If it was a V8 and didn’t have a sunroof (takes up valuable headroom) I wouldn’t be drooling over a 5th gen. 190,000 miles and I’m thinking of upgrading. Love your 4Runner bro! You were the one who inspired my 30” light bar in the bumper and the Hollywood bike rack
The v6 4.0 did change a bit in 2010, and it is tuned different in the 5th gen 4runner. The 5th gen also weighs about 500#s more. The v6 4th gen feels quick compared to a 5th gen, and it is faster to 60... Now a fj even feels quicker due to weight, and even that isn't fast haha. Love my 08 v6.
Thank you I was hoping someone would mention this. Also we have an fj and it’s pretty peppy compared to our other vehicles it reminds me very much of my brothers 06 Honda civic in terms of acceleration and handling
@@fredmagic09 I never said they were actually quick, I said compared to each other one feels quicker than the other, and they actually are, to each other. The 5th Gen is tuned for more efficiency in general, which the 4runner is also not.
The main difference between the 03-09 1GR and the 2010-present 1GR is the old one is only vvti on the intake cams. The new one is vvti on both intake and exhaust cams. Plus different tuning for a bit more HP and TQ but overall the 1GR and the A750F/E is practically the same for both gens.
Good video! I’ve been a Toyota/4Runner/Land Cruiser fan going back to the days before I could drive. My wife is getting a 2013 SR5 premium in a few days, coming on a truck. This is after she fell in love with a 2008 Highlander Sport that met it’s unfortunate end a couple weeks ago in a terrible accident. I think my casual mentions of 4Runners over the years, and pricing comps led her to a 4 Runner! Looking forward to getting behind the wheel of this, to see if a later 5th Gen might be the way I go when it’s time for me to trade in my current SUV. Closest I have came to a 4 runner is a 1990 Pathfinder V6 that I had for a few years in high school/college. That was a fun time!
I was in the same boat. Shopping to replace my 4th gen. The non-limited 5th gens also lost auto climate control and the center locking diff. Which I like for snowing hwy driving. I ended up going with a Lexus GX, but I miss my 4th gen!
Well the 5th gen 4runner was my dream truck, so I bought a base used 2015 SR5 4runner for around 22k but I put my own mods on it and I made it better than that ridiculous 70k TRDpro. On the interior, I added leather seats with heating, new screen, cup holders, carbon fiber trimming, led lights etc. On the exterior, I did a 4 inch lift kit, all new EMU suspension and a custom wide body sitting on ko2 285's with blacked out rays rims. All new led lights, KC lights, marker lights and all... Basically the mods cost like 8k, but still for 30k I got something better than a 70k TRDpro in my book. Soon I'm gonna add that ladder, roof storage and probably delete the plastic rear bumper and put an overland metal one, same with the front. I only did a viper cut up front, but I might put a metal high overland bumper up there.
The 2UZ V8 found in the Land Cruiser and 4th gen is Toyota royalty. Stemmed from a generation where they produced some of their most legendary engines (2Zz, 1UZ and of course, the 2JZ). If you find a 4th gen with a solid frame/only surface rust...get it. They will only get harder to find
I just put a deposit on a 2024 pro in underground. 56k no markups or bs add ons. Given the garbage being built and sold today I feel 56k is not terrible, not great but I’m ok with it, no choice. They are all incredible but I love the 5th gen.
I have a 2016 trail edition with KDSS and I love it too bits. Yes yous is nice to, but the 5th gens frame has been beefed up more plus the rear diff is larger, with multi terrain select, kdss, locking rear diff and a few more features, it's know wonder why it's more expensive. As I said, you do have a beautiful 4runner, but I could say that it was the trail edition that started all the hype over the TRD pro and off road. Either way, we're proud to own them.
I love my 2007 v8. 250 thousand miles and running like a dream. Sanding it down right now and going to paint with tractor paint with a roller and brush. Would not trade my ride for a 2023 4Runner. The build I have on mine would cost 15-20 thousand more to have equivalent to mine and it would still have a v6.
3rd gen and 5th gens have way more upgrade options vs the 4th gen bumpers are harder to find for 4th gens I do have to admit the 5th gen interiors are sweet but I have the Sport Edition With my 4th gen I think it looks good
I average 17 mi to the gallon with V8. I added built in blue tooth to my stock Toyota JBL nav head unit. No car play, I don't use it anyway, but flaw streaming and hands free calling.
I have a 4th gen (my dream car!) and I love it!!! It’s an SR5 and needs some upgrades/ TLC. I plan to keep mine until the engine goes out but I’m also considering selling it and finding a nicer 4th gen like yours.
Nice video! All great points. Love my v8 so much I bought another one! This time I did it right and got a 4x4. I'll be sad to sell the OG runner as I love having them both haha
Great video! For me though, I never did care for the style of the 4th Gen. I prefer my 3rd gen over the 4th Gen any day. I was able to pick up a used 2015 5th gen 4Runner used for $22k with only 87k miles. Just last year, I couldn’t resist a deal and I was able to pick up a 06’ Lexus GX470 for $11k and it has 167k miles. The dollars mentioned is American dollars as I live here in Hawaii. Keep up the great content!🤙🏻
3rd gen is and probably always will be the best looking. I hated the ABS in mine though, and they aren't very safe by today's standards. Still a sweet SUV but its definitely a classic vehicle at this point
I think the sweet spot for a used 4Runner is a 2018 & 2019 (esp Limited trim with Full-Time 4wd.. essential for those in northern climates). It’s only a few years old so you’ll have leas repairs to deal with than older units. Love these 4th gen v8’s tho.. ❤
@@seanfrank4158yeah it's a myth. Maybe in Albany or Maine. In NJ the climate has changed so much since I was a kid, we barely get any snow, maybe 3 days a year. Totally unnecessary. Now if I was in parts of Canada we etc
You are correct! The 5th gen front axles are identical to the 4th gen 4runner ones besides the fact the boots have been upgraded on the 5th gen. I only replace these with low mileage used ones. Much superior to China axles.
@3:00 please correct me if I'm wrong but it is not the "same" 4L V6 on 5th gen 4Runner and 2006 Tacoma right? Isn't the Tacoma / 4th gen 4Runner has the older single VVTi 4L V6 and 5th Gen 4Runner has the never Dual VVti 4L V6. And unlike Tacoma/ 4th Gen 4Runner, the 5th gen does not require 91OCT premium fuel for max performance? Atleast the 5th gen 4Runner owners manual doesn't state that like the Tacoma owners manual.
It's the same engine, just with updated VVTI. They added VVTI to the 4.7 part way through the 4th gen too and no one considers that a different V8. It seems like Toyota couldn't make up their mind when they were recommending premium gas during this era - some owners manuals recommend it and some don't. I wouldn't bother running premium in any of them
It’s been a long time coming Tim… somebody had to make a video like this. I’m glad that you took the step forward and made it! To me, the 5th gen interior feels a bit cramped and smaller although nicer and with better materials. Still, I love the simplicity and durability the 4gen interior offers. Wouldn’t change my 06 SR5 V6 for nothing (maybe a New Defender 2door with a V8, but that’s it) 😂 great video, as always!
I’ve always loved the 3rd and 5th gens and skipped over the 4th in terms of interest but man lately I’ve been really moving in their direction especially with the availability of a V8
I'm very curious as to what the next generation of 4runner will have. You're right that there definitely won't be a V8, but I do hope they at least maintain a V6. It will almost surely be turbo'd or something from the factory which will hurt reliability a bit. What would you think about the possibility of a hybrid 4Runner? If any company knows how to make a good hybrid it's Toyota, and if they do it right it could maintain the 4R capability while fixing the poor gas mileage issue.
I used to hate hybrids but now that the market is filled with EV cars I think they're a much better solution. I'd be shocked if the next 4runner doesn't get the turbo 4cyl from the new Tacoma
@@CanadianGearhead Agreed. I'd take a hybrid over a pure EV any day. Toyota has proven they can still be very reliable vehicles. If they could make a good long-range hybrid 4R it could even prove to be a great overland vehicle. Imagine a 4runner with a 600-700 mile range? That would be pretty sweet. As long as we maintain the ability to customize, that is. Even on the new gas 4R the "Toyota safety sense" throws a bit of a wrench into lifting efforts.
@@PocketsandOutlawexactly. I’m totally in love with my 2023 40th anniversary edition…The only thing I’d trade it in for in 4-5 years would be a newer hybrid version that’s proving equally capable and reliable and fun to drive while having 29 MPG on the highway instead of 19….As much as I’m in love with my ride - it’s hard to argue with getting 10 mpg more on every Gallon of gasoline purchased. That’s significantly different cost of use.
I’ve owned an 07 Sport and now on my 2nd ‘15 Trail. Had my 07 and previous 15 get totaled by careless drivers within the last 2 year. Small observations: 4th gen has better visor design but the 4th gen has inferior climate controls. I didn’t like the actual controls and the center vent was positioned in a way that it hit me in the hand. Much improved in the 5th. Low mileage, clean, less rusty 4th gens are in the $20K range in the states. Less rust is one reason to but later models but also NEVER buy anything driven up north. I’m in the south. But yea, 4th gens are a great value!
Great video. I live in North East Ontario, and unfortunately, almost every 4x4 truck or SUV has the tar beat out of it. Unless you know the old timers that originally bought it, well, good luck.
I have an 05 SR5 v8. I loved it from the day I got it. Only 168,000 on it, at 65 years old I was hoping it’s the last vehicle I’d need. The roar of the exhaust and mud tires was better than the radio. Unfortunately,my truck got cancer. Surface rust turned fatal on the frame. Heartbreaking 😢, it’s unsafe to drive and I can only sell it for parts. I just got a 2019 4Runner and it’s by far the nicest vehicle I’ve ever had. 60,000 miles $27,000. I swore I’d never spend that kind of money, but what you gonna do. Get a trailblazer or Bronco? Don’t think so
Probally overpaid. 8:22 Bought 2005 with under 60,000 miles. Its an odd duck with the V8, sounds great and runs well. Will treat it well as deserved. For you checked to make sure rear window works with key. Thanks for all your content. Unfortunately placed it from a nice to have to got to have. Being 73" tall with 32" inseam, made sure I fit before I bought.
Well generally you're right 4th and 5th gens are not that different but frame is different. 4th gen is on the J120 base and 5th is on J150 as far as I know. They are different. Not drastically but still... No more V8 it is done. I guess soon V6s will be gone too. And yes car prices this days are crazy!
You're correct about the sticker shock. Two and a half years ago, I purchased a 5th Gen. 2017 Toyota 4 Runner TRD off road $46K (Laughs hysterically) 😂 If I could have found a 4th Gen that looks like yours, then absolutely I would have skipped the 5th Gen. However, the 5th Gen is worth every penny
I currently own a 5th gen, and it's great, don't get me wrong even as a plain Jane SR5, but man I miss my 4th too. 5th is better for long highway trips in my opinion but the 4th is quicker off the line and handles better for daily driving. I think the answer is both 😅 I'll be getting another 4th at some point!
as a 5th gen trail premium owner im glad i got one and wouldnt trade it despite the price, however i still want a 4th gen V8 they are badass and cheapish.
1gr fe engjne is significantly changed from 4th to 5th generation. Essentially it has the 2gr cylinder head with the old 1gr engjne. Personally, I prefer the look of the 4th gen however I will likely buy a used fifth gen (currently looking) since there is a higher chance that the frame isn't rusted out. This is Canada, why are many of these expensive trucks not properly rust proofed?
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I just picked up a 1 owner ‘03 V8 4Runner with 146k miles and all maintenance service records including its original window sticker for $4k from my old man’s real estate customer yesterday!! Apparently, 6 months ago she went outside to start it and nothing happened, so she went out and bought a brand new TRD for $65k. She offered to have it towed and “fixed” for me since I think she really just needed it moved off the property of her old house.. I told her that might not be necessary, and yesterday I drove out to her place with a new battery, my girlfriend, and $4k in hand. I put in the new battery and it started right up (of course). It runs PURRRFECT!! Needs a good detail after sitting for as long as it has, but I definitely got the deal of a lifetime!! Can’t wait to start building it out!!
Got a gem of a car while she was able to justify a new toy. Win-win honestly
I've had my V8 Limited 4Runner for about 2 years now and you've helped me a ton, since day one! I remember looking up your video about things to watch out for when buying one, on the way to meet the guy to check the vehicle out. One of the best decisions I've made to buy this thing - I got it for $4,800 USD with 153k miles.
Thanks for the content, keep it up, you make us 4th gen owners feel great!!!
I totally get you on the pricing on the 4th and 5th Gen. 4Runners. I had a fully built 4th Gen with the V8 and I thought I'd never sell it, until someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse (yep, prices are crazy.) I used that opportunity to buy a brand new 5th Gen TRD ORP. Yep - crazy expensive, but I don't have any regrets, honestly. I LOVE my new 2022 (now 2 YO) 4Runner in Lunar Rock.
I have had both and if you dont plan on towing major weight then 6 cylinder is where is at.
Part time 4wd gives u better MPG plus a timing Chain instead of a belt and all kinds of room to work under the hood.
Just my opinion
Love my 05 4Runner 302k miles and still going strong, can do what ever the 5gen can do on the trails
I grew up in pakistan and moved to pnw for grad school. This truck's twin goes by name of Hilux Surf has a fierce reputation that it can go anywhere from rugged mountains to desert and snow. I always wanted it back in the day. After moving to north america I got my first 3rd gen 4runner. It was rwd but still feels very capable on rough terrain. About a month ago I found a v6 4th gen 4runner just under 5 grand! It runs and drives so good. I deep cleaned and shampooed it (there was a mouse carcass in the cabin air filter :D). The mechanic said its solid, and just had to do the rear axle seal. Happy that the v6 has timing chain so I didn't have to do that like on the 3rd gen. Have been watching your channel and very inspired to do new tires and lift soon!
They will have to release something amazing for me to give up my 2003 V8 4Runner.
I also own a 2003 V-8. it is a rear wheel drive limited edition model that I picked up about a year ago and it is very reliable. Relatively flat torque curve and it pulls like a freight train.
Agreed. None of that 4cyl bs give me my gas guzzling v8 anyday
@@erroltorres8557 I will have had mine 21 year Nov 21st. Love it as much today as the day I bought, if not more. @urban_overland
228,000 miles on my 2008 4.7l 💪🏼
My 2006 Ltd with the V8 has 296,790 kms, still running like new…keeping it until it rolls over and dies, changed the suspension and had the timing belt and water pump changed twice
Great video. One year I got a 2006 SR5 for my teen-aged son and daughter, sadly not the V8, but I could not be happier. I shopped and shopped and though I live in TUcson, AZ, I found this one at a small lot in Phoenix. Great condition, only flaw on my inspection was a torn outer CV boot. They knocked $250 off the price, and I got it for $10250 with 180,000 miles. Went through and changed oil, transfer case, and differential fluids. Only problem since has been a light bulb here and there. Could not be happier. Solid Toyota, maintain it well, be happy! Thanks for your videos.
Love my 2007 4runner! 300k miles and still going strong!
I love the 4Runner in general but between my wife’s 2010 limited and my 04 SR5 V8 I absolutely love my 4th gen. PO did a lot of modern updates to the interior. Apple car play head unit, remote start, and a back up camera. Love how smooth the V8 is as well!
Back up camera! He didn’t mention.
What kind of radio and backup cam did you buy?
Had a 98 sr5 for 18 years, loved that truck, presently driving a 2004 sr5 , one owner, in amazing condition. Will never sell it. Black beauty like yours.
My 98 Sr5 is at 324231 rn yours?
Well, just order my TRD PRO Ice Cap 2024 4Runner delivery date is end of this December can’t wait for it. Great video in price comparison I have owned a Toyota Truck since 86 and there’s no way I’m missing out on the last chance to get a legendary Toyota 4Runner no matter what the price is!!!
I totally agree. The only reasons I would want a 5th gen would be the front grill (Still looks sweet) and the offroad features. However, you can add an aftermarket locking diff. to the 4th gen and still have the luscious V8.
That's what I did with my 2007 v8 salsa red sport edition 4th gen put arb Air lockers front and rear with dual arb compressor and air tank external bumper Air couplers
V8 with e locker 4Runner for me !
@@roypoomiwatracanont7762 okay
Love our 2008 v8 SR5. Putting a 2” lift come spring and will run this thing until the wheels fall off
i had a 2008 2wd V6 4runner and I loved that thing. it was only till I started offroading more seriously that I noticed that 4wd was kinda necessary for me. So I bought the 2012 OG 5th Gen 4WD, I got a good deal on it and I really like it. I do miss my old 4th Gen but couldn't keep it with it only being 2WD.
Awesome 4th gens. I have a 2007 black limited 4wd with only 98k miles. Smooth and comfy
Imagine how well a new 4Runner that looked exactly like the third gen but with a modern interior would sell.
This!
Recently got me an '05 Limited V8 4WD sometime after selling my 3rd gen.
Best vehicle I ever owned already. It's up there with the super nice 09 Tacoma I used to have.
Just got an 03 v8 for $4400 in July and we love it. Plenty of features and nice touches (sport edition), 19-20 mpg, only some rust, 210k but in good condition.
How are you getting 19-20mpg lmao I'm barely pushing 17
Heck, my v6 barely gets 17.
He's not getting that mileage IMHO. You cant trust the trip odometer / MPG computer info. If that is actual miles divided by actual gallons of gas, I would be shocked. They just don't get that mileage, period. I have a 2006 with V6, one size larger than factory tires. Trip computer shows with careful driving about 18 mpg; pen and paper math at the gas pump is closer to 16.
i own both a 4th and 5th gen….both are uniquely special with their features and capabilities.
although both engines are 4l v6, the 5th gen has a revised engine with automatic valve adjustments and dual vvti, while the 4th gen has the easiest oil filter location for service
great video.
Love your vids! 4th gen 4Runner here also. Keep up the good work!
No one ever seems to mention that the 4th Gen V6 comes with selective mode four wheel drive. It is not offered in the 5th Gen in the US. I appreciate being able to use AWD in variable onroad conditions (i.e. spots of ice and snow) but still retain rear wheel drive for better gas mileage and wear. I especially find low range AWD for maneuring my travel trailer into campspots!
Yup. That right there. Could not have said that better myself.
What do you mean? The 5th gens come with selective 4WD. You can select to go into 4WD or stay in 2WD. The only 5th gen that doesn’t have that are the 2x4 ‘s and the limited that comes with full time 4WD
@@randyshein1453 4th gen v6's have a selection of:
2wd, AWD high (4wd open t-case), 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), 4wd low AWD (open t-case) and 4wd low (50\50 locked t-case).
5th gen's, excluding Limited, has: 2wd, 4wd high (50\50 locked center diff), and 4wd low (50\50 locked center diff).
The beauty of the Selective Mode t-case is the ability to switch into AWD (under 50ish mph) on the fly under slippery conditions. Think of it like the opposite of how a typical Subaru AWD system works. Instead of a front biased AWD system (Subaru), the 4th gen 4runner Select Mode t-case allows for a REAR biased AWD system. The only 5th gen 4runner that comes close to this anymore is the Limited version.
That is what @billthompson301 was getting at. All 4th gen V6's come this way.
And besides slippery road conditions that @billthompson301 mentioned, which I have used consistantly every winter so close to the Sierra Nevada's, I personally use it for corrugated\chewed up graded hill climbs when off road. Having a small portion of the power to the front wheels pulling while the rears push is awesome.
I owned a 4th gen for 8 years and a 5th gen for 3 years. 5th gen is much better in almost every way except for not having a v8. Although I drive slow so to me it don't matter lol.
The V6 is a turd of a boat anchor. Reliable but boring. The 2UZFE is far superior. I’ve worked on many and they simply have very few issues and good torque for towing.
I got an 07 with 178k miles. Been amazing so far.
Gx470 owner here! Love the V8 4Runners!
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. 4.7 V8 will go a million mikes if you take care of it, my 2003 4Runner has 325,000 miles, the vehicle will out live me.
I love everything about my 2003 limited and the power of 8, replaced rim with Tacoma, with 240000 miles without any repair or replace main parts, still works like it is not ON, when i stop on red lights, but I am not sure about replace the timming belt , becuse i do not trust any mechanic to touch my car. LOS ANGELES
It's been a week for me owning a 2024 4runner trd ORP and it's been fabulous! Im in love with it
In a couple years when all the turbos are wearing out, yours will be the one everyone wishes they had.
Man you’re one of the only people fourth gen content. I think every time I’ve done anything to my 06 I’ve looked your videos up first. Maybe I should start making some of my own content, seems like there’s an opening in the space.
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Been lining my ‘07 since day-1! 210K miles later still loving her!!
I love ❤️ my 5th gen and my V8 4th gen ! Both different beast. I slowly build up my 5th gen T4R to a TRD pro w/o the price tag.
I got one big bonus of the 5th gen. They are part time 4wd compared to full time 4wd. And you can get the 5th gen trds with manual transfer cases. That my biggest bonus of the 5th gen. They both are great 3rd gen still the king.
Hello my Gen 5 in 2015 was 37k(4x4 SR5) got it for 34k due to LEO(GO PIGS!) discount. Was about to trade for lesser car, my wife said I will take your 4Runner and you can trade in my Accord. So I got a 2017 Sequoia(SR5 4x4) with that 5.7, I think of it as a 4Runner with more room and better engine. Both these vehicles at 105k 4R , Sequoia at 83k are rock solid. Thanks for helping me see the potential in my current autos, 4Runner been paid off for 2 years Sequoia is like 3 payments and she is all mine!!!!
I have a 2007 4runner V6 and I love it😊, I swapped the automatic transfer case to a manual from a fj cruiser, now I love it even more.
I’ve driven many 4Runners. I’d say get the one you like the most and the one that fits your budget.
I have an 08 V8 4X4 sport and I like the way the V8 drives more then the new ones. I don't like how the window switches are so high, as I normally put my left arm on there. I also appreciate the soft close rear hatch, but that's pretty minor. The new ones are really nice too but if I was going to get a new one I think I'll just wait until it's actually modernized with the 6th gen. As of now I'd just be going from old truck to slightly newer old truck, which losing the main thing I like about the old one.
I just finished installing Bronze with black lip fuel Covert D696 wheels and just finished Front and Rear Arb Air Lockers for my axles plus on board Dual arb Air Compressor and external air quick couplers and arb front and rear Diff breathers and transmission and transfercase breathers
I have a 2017 4Runner it's a 5th Gen but its paid off I love it! Gone so many places with it . I am glad I for rid of that jeeo I had
So glad I got rid of my Jeep too!
I have a white 4th gen. 2007 SR5 so I can’t turn off traction control which sucks. If it was a V8 and didn’t have a sunroof (takes up valuable headroom) I wouldn’t be drooling over a 5th gen. 190,000 miles and I’m thinking of upgrading. Love your 4Runner bro! You were the one who inspired my 30” light bar in the bumper and the Hollywood bike rack
The v6 4.0 did change a bit in 2010, and it is tuned different in the 5th gen 4runner. The 5th gen also weighs about 500#s more. The v6 4th gen feels quick compared to a 5th gen, and it is faster to 60... Now a fj even feels quicker due to weight, and even that isn't fast haha. Love my 08 v6.
I don't think anyone is buying a 4runner (regardless of gen) for how "quick" it is.
Thank you I was hoping someone would mention this. Also we have an fj and it’s pretty peppy compared to our other vehicles it reminds me very much of my brothers 06 Honda civic in terms of acceleration and handling
@@fredmagic09 I never said they were actually quick, I said compared to each other one feels quicker than the other, and they actually are, to each other. The 5th Gen is tuned for more efficiency in general, which the 4runner is also not.
The main difference between the 03-09 1GR and the 2010-present 1GR is the old one is only vvti on the intake cams. The new one is vvti on both intake and exhaust cams. Plus different tuning for a bit more HP and TQ but overall the 1GR and the A750F/E is practically the same for both gens.
Did you type “#s” instead of “lbs”?
I bought a 03 v8 8yrs ago. Love it still.
Good video! I’ve been a Toyota/4Runner/Land Cruiser fan going back to the days before I could drive. My wife is getting a 2013 SR5 premium in a few days, coming on a truck. This is after she fell in love with a 2008 Highlander Sport that met it’s unfortunate end a couple weeks ago in a terrible accident. I think my casual mentions of 4Runners over the years, and pricing comps led her to a 4 Runner! Looking forward to getting behind the wheel of this, to see if a later 5th Gen might be the way I go when it’s time for me to trade in my current SUV. Closest I have came to a 4 runner is a 1990 Pathfinder V6 that I had for a few years in high school/college. That was a fun time!
I was in the same boat. Shopping to replace my 4th gen. The non-limited 5th gens also lost auto climate control and the center locking diff. Which I like for snowing hwy driving. I ended up going with a Lexus GX, but I miss my 4th gen!
I love my 2004 V8 4runner. 238,000 miles and still going!
5th gen hold their value like crazy 200,000 miles and proably sell it for like 20k-25k! Depends on mods
I just copped my '06 V6 and I love it
Well the 5th gen 4runner was my dream truck, so I bought a base used 2015 SR5 4runner for around 22k but I put my own mods on it and I made it better than that ridiculous 70k TRDpro. On the interior, I added leather seats with heating, new screen, cup holders, carbon fiber trimming, led lights etc. On the exterior, I did a 4 inch lift kit, all new EMU suspension and a custom wide body sitting on ko2 285's with blacked out rays rims. All new led lights, KC lights, marker lights and all... Basically the mods cost like 8k, but still for 30k I got something better than a 70k TRDpro in my book. Soon I'm gonna add that ladder, roof storage and probably delete the plastic rear bumper and put an overland metal one, same with the front. I only did a viper cut up front, but I might put a metal high overland bumper up there.
There's definitely a lot of value in modding an older 5th gen than buying a new Pro!
The 2UZ V8 found in the Land Cruiser and 4th gen is Toyota royalty. Stemmed from a generation where they produced some of their most legendary engines (2Zz, 1UZ and of course, the 2JZ). If you find a 4th gen with a solid frame/only surface rust...get it. They will only get harder to find
Totally agree
I just put a deposit on a 2024 pro in underground. 56k no markups or bs add ons. Given the garbage being built and sold today I feel 56k is not terrible, not great but I’m ok with it, no choice. They are all incredible but I love the 5th gen.
I have a 2016 trail edition with KDSS and I love it too bits. Yes yous is nice to, but the 5th gens frame has been beefed up more plus the rear diff is larger, with multi terrain select, kdss, locking rear diff and a few more features, it's know wonder why it's more expensive. As I said, you do have a beautiful 4runner, but I could say that it was the trail edition that started all the hype over the TRD pro and off road. Either way, we're proud to own them.
Can't say that I agree with KDSS and a locking rear diff making it worth double the price lol
I love my 2007 v8. 250 thousand miles and running like a dream. Sanding it down right now and going to paint with tractor paint with a roller and brush. Would not trade my ride for a 2023 4Runner. The build I have on mine would cost 15-20 thousand more to have equivalent to mine and it would still have a v6.
I have a 05 and it's been awesome and is fully built overlanding rig
3rd gen and 5th gens have way more upgrade options vs the 4th gen bumpers are harder to find for 4th gens I do have to admit the 5th gen interiors are sweet but I have the Sport Edition With my 4th gen I think it looks good
That means that more people got all the mods for the 4th gen so there is less parts out there in tbe world.
@@Ejp23_ what you said is bullcrap I'm refering to Less Companies providing offroad accessories for 4th gens
Got my 2006 4Runner in Limited V8 4wd for $5800 last year and I think I’m going to keep it forever
I average 17 mi to the gallon with V8. I added built in blue tooth to my stock Toyota JBL nav head unit. No car play, I don't use it anyway, but flaw streaming and hands free calling.
I had a 1st gen 03 Tacoma, then got a 13' Forester. Looking to get a 4th gen next vehicle after seeing prices for a 5th gen.
0:17 bro is House M.D
I installed Doug Thorley long headers on my 05 V8 4X4 limited because I didn’t want to replaced exhaust manifold again.
My 4th gen has an ARB rear air locker. So there's always support for your needs.
I have a 4th gen (my dream car!) and I love it!!! It’s an SR5 and needs some upgrades/ TLC. I plan to keep mine until the engine goes out but I’m also considering selling it and finding a nicer 4th gen like yours.
Nice video! All great points. Love my v8 so much I bought another one! This time I did it right and got a 4x4. I'll be sad to sell the OG runner as I love having them both haha
Great video! For me though, I never did care for the style of the 4th Gen. I prefer my 3rd gen over the 4th Gen any day. I was able to pick up a used 2015 5th gen 4Runner used for $22k with only 87k miles. Just last year, I couldn’t resist a deal and I was able to pick up a 06’ Lexus GX470 for $11k and it has 167k miles. The dollars mentioned is American dollars as I live here in Hawaii. Keep up the great content!🤙🏻
3rd gen is and probably always will be the best looking. I hated the ABS in mine though, and they aren't very safe by today's standards. Still a sweet SUV but its definitely a classic vehicle at this point
There’s some gen5s here I’m looking at with 200k miles plus and the dealers are wanting like $15-$20k it’s so mind boggling to me.
I have a 4th gen V6 and a 5th gen trd off road, I’m looking around for 4th gen v8
LOVE my 2009 V8, would never dream of “trading up”
I think the sweet spot for a used 4Runner is a 2018 & 2019 (esp Limited trim with Full-Time 4wd.. essential for those in northern climates). It’s only a few years old so you’ll have leas repairs to deal with than older units. Love these 4th gen v8’s tho.. ❤
Full time 4wd is not an essential feature for those living in northern climates. Never has been and never will be....
@@seanfrank4158yeah it's a myth. Maybe in Albany or Maine. In NJ the climate has changed so much since I was a kid, we barely get any snow, maybe 3 days a year.
Totally unnecessary.
Now if I was in parts of Canada we etc
I still drive a V8 4Runner. Not looking to change. Great vehicle!
You are correct! The 5th gen front axles are identical to the 4th gen 4runner ones besides the fact the boots have been upgraded on the 5th gen. I only replace these with low mileage used ones. Much superior to China axles.
@3:00 please correct me if I'm wrong but it is not the "same" 4L V6 on 5th gen 4Runner and 2006 Tacoma right? Isn't the Tacoma / 4th gen 4Runner has the older single VVTi 4L V6 and 5th Gen 4Runner has the never Dual VVti 4L V6. And unlike Tacoma/ 4th Gen 4Runner, the 5th gen does not require 91OCT premium fuel for max performance? Atleast the 5th gen 4Runner owners manual doesn't state that like the Tacoma owners manual.
It's the same engine, just with updated VVTI. They added VVTI to the 4.7 part way through the 4th gen too and no one considers that a different V8.
It seems like Toyota couldn't make up their mind when they were recommending premium gas during this era - some owners manuals recommend it and some don't. I wouldn't bother running premium in any of them
It’s been a long time coming Tim… somebody had to make a video like this. I’m glad that you took the step forward and made it! To me, the 5th gen interior feels a bit cramped and smaller although nicer and with better materials. Still, I love the simplicity and durability the 4gen interior offers. Wouldn’t change my 06 SR5 V6 for nothing (maybe a New Defender 2door with a V8, but that’s it) 😂 great video, as always!
I've had both and you are full of it. 4th way more cramped, quit lying
I’ve always found it odd that Toyota did away with the manual transfer case shift lever in favor of the dial on the 4 gens.
Agreed, that was definitely a downgrade
They still have the manual transfer case shift lever, but only on the TRD Off Road and PRO models.
You can ADD a Diff locker--- the FJ cruixer 2010 diff locker will bolt in directly..
I’ve always loved the 3rd and 5th gens and skipped over the 4th in terms of interest but man lately I’ve been really moving in their direction especially with the availability of a V8
I have. 2005 4RUNNER V8 LIMITED 4WD 158,000 miles and love it
I can’t buy a 4th Gen 4Runner if nobody’s willing to sell them 😢
I'm very curious as to what the next generation of 4runner will have.
You're right that there definitely won't be a V8, but I do hope they at least maintain a V6. It will almost surely be turbo'd or something from the factory which will hurt reliability a bit.
What would you think about the possibility of a hybrid 4Runner? If any company knows how to make a good hybrid it's Toyota, and if they do it right it could maintain the 4R capability while fixing the poor gas mileage issue.
I used to hate hybrids but now that the market is filled with EV cars I think they're a much better solution. I'd be shocked if the next 4runner doesn't get the turbo 4cyl from the new Tacoma
@@CanadianGearhead Agreed. I'd take a hybrid over a pure EV any day. Toyota has proven they can still be very reliable vehicles.
If they could make a good long-range hybrid 4R it could even prove to be a great overland vehicle. Imagine a 4runner with a 600-700 mile range? That would be pretty sweet. As long as we maintain the ability to customize, that is. Even on the new gas 4R the "Toyota safety sense" throws a bit of a wrench into lifting efforts.
@@PocketsandOutlawexactly. I’m totally in love with my 2023 40th anniversary edition…The only thing I’d trade it in for in 4-5 years would be a newer hybrid version that’s proving equally capable and reliable and fun to drive while having 29 MPG on the highway instead of 19….As much as I’m in love with my ride - it’s hard to argue with getting 10 mpg more on every Gallon of gasoline purchased. That’s significantly different cost of use.
I’ve owned an 07 Sport and now on my 2nd ‘15 Trail. Had my 07 and previous 15 get totaled by careless drivers within the last 2 year.
Small observations: 4th gen has better visor design but the 4th gen has inferior climate controls. I didn’t like the actual controls and the center vent was positioned in a way that it hit me in the hand. Much improved in the 5th.
Low mileage, clean, less rusty 4th gens are in the $20K range in the states. Less rust is one reason to but later models but also NEVER buy anything driven up north. I’m in the south.
But yea, 4th gens are a great value!
2006 limited v8. LOVE IT! Gonna try n copy your lift soon
my 2007 v6 4 runner get 23 mpg hgwy....
Great video and I’ve heard good things abut the 4.7L V8 from more than a few people and it’s making me consider that over the 4.0L V6.
If I could afford either, I would get the 4th gen because of the TorSen center diff
Great video. I live in North East Ontario, and unfortunately, almost every 4x4 truck or SUV has the tar beat out of it. Unless you know the old timers that originally bought it, well, good luck.
I have an 05 SR5 v8. I loved it from the day I got it. Only 168,000 on it, at 65 years old I was hoping it’s the last vehicle I’d need. The roar of the exhaust and mud tires was better than the radio. Unfortunately,my truck got cancer. Surface rust turned fatal on the frame. Heartbreaking 😢, it’s unsafe to drive and I can only sell it for parts. I just got a 2019 4Runner and it’s by far the nicest vehicle I’ve ever had. 60,000 miles $27,000. I swore I’d never spend that kind of money, but what you gonna do. Get a trailblazer or Bronco? Don’t think so
Probally overpaid. 8:22 Bought 2005 with under 60,000 miles. Its an odd duck with the V8, sounds great and runs well. Will treat it well as deserved. For you checked to make sure rear window works with key. Thanks for all your content. Unfortunately placed it from a nice to have to got to have. Being 73" tall with 32" inseam, made sure I fit before I bought.
What is your tire size ,? 3 in lift ? have you had any rubbings the tires. looks really amazing brother !!!
Well generally you're right 4th and 5th gens are not that different but frame is different. 4th gen is on the J120 base and 5th is on J150 as far as I know. They are different. Not drastically but still... No more V8 it is done. I guess soon V6s will be gone too. And yes car prices this days are crazy!
What are the differences in the frames aside from the bracing I mentioned?
They both great vehicles but if I have to choose one its gona be the 5th gen it look better just my opinion
I have a 2008 v6 limeted My and it has locking rear diff. I know some don't but I think the limiteds do.
Could always put a rear locker in the 4th gen later! I'd like to do it to mine.
You're correct about the sticker shock. Two and a half years ago, I purchased a 5th Gen.
2017 Toyota 4 Runner TRD off road $46K (Laughs hysterically) 😂
If I could have found a 4th Gen that looks like yours, then absolutely I would have skipped the 5th Gen. However, the 5th Gen is worth every penny
I currently own a 5th gen, and it's great, don't get me wrong even as a plain Jane SR5, but man I miss my 4th too. 5th is better for long highway trips in my opinion but the 4th is quicker off the line and handles better for daily driving.
I think the answer is both 😅 I'll be getting another 4th at some point!
So get the 4th Gen because my lady has a V8 that makes Audi Q5s feel like crap.
You can Install 90 percent of 5th gen suspension parts on a 4th gen and vise versa
We had the 4 the gen, great truck!a little small for us but I liked it.
as a 5th gen trail premium owner im glad i got one and wouldnt trade it despite the price, however i still want a 4th gen V8 they are badass and cheapish.
The gas guzzling nature of the older ones makes me wanna buy the new hybrid one
1gr fe engjne is significantly changed from 4th to 5th generation. Essentially it has the 2gr cylinder head with the old 1gr engjne. Personally, I prefer the look of the 4th gen however I will likely buy a used fifth gen (currently looking) since there is a higher chance that the frame isn't rusted out. This is Canada, why are many of these expensive trucks not properly rust proofed?
Could you share the link you got for the infotainment system for your 4runner? Love the truck just bought an '07 4wd 4l v6
Great review brother, may I ask what lift kit you put on your 4 Runner?
You know what you've got hang on to it as long as you can.
I just purchased a 2008 sport edition 4runner. I have questions about why my suspension seems wobbly but drive mostly straight