Iv watched soo many other channels show this monitor and none of them went this in depth like you did. Thank you for really trying to show what this monitor is about
In terms of burn-in warranty, we have Asus now confirmed with 2 years warranty, Dell with 3 years, and LG 2 years, nothing yet on Gigabyte, HP, Samsung and MSI (to my knowledge).
@@ghinochips5842 yea I honestly don't mind matte coating I have one asus 4k pg32ucdp so this comment of mine didn't age well I actually prefer matte now lol
The hertz wars are still going on, meanwhile CRT monitors are still the kings for motion clarity. An OLED with BFI is a CRT with broken electron guns and coils and low brightness.
I mean, if you have a game/rig that can push 480hz, I'd say run it without BFI. But for a game like Quakelive that tops out at 250fps (yep, still playing quake after 25 years LOL), 240hz + BFI oled is endgame.
its just abit sad that the alienware hdmi2.1 does not support 360hz refresh rate just 240 you will have to use dp 1.4 for 360hz very sad day for alienware@@arc00ta
13:00 I personally dont like "BTF" connector on graphics card because it introduces an extra connection/point of failure. It still uses same 12pin cable from PSU and if something goes wrong, those 600W of juice will melt not only connector on the backside of motherboard (there is no airflow ), but motherboard and, possibly, everything on it as well.
BTF would be a good standard if it shakes out. At the end of the video, did you ban those people in your outtakes. 😂 I never thought being banned would be so much fun. ✌🏻”No soup for you, come back tomorrow”
OLED looks amazing! But it's like buying a ticking time bomb! When's it going to go! If one had a budget for every two year replacement, then it's a no brainer.
Just look at them as gaming and multimedia monitors - don't do office work and you be alright, and most of them have burn-in warranty and tons of burn-in prevention software, which will only get better and better. I remember when OLED Tvs came to the market in 2016, the first 2-3 years were rough and then they figured it out - won't be any different here.
My 19 inch Samsung Syncmaster 955DF CRT ruined me, it's a 22 year old monitor, the image quality is ridiculous for the age (1856x1392 res, OLED-like colors and contrast), motion clarity better than real life, no aliasing, no upscaling blur, variable refresh rates... OLED is an extremely lightweight CRT that only shares the amazing contrast and colors, the rest is way worse.
I still prefer ULMB/DyAC over BFI. Inserting a black frame is just adding latency, I think I rather have the latency advantage over whatever minor ghosting there might be on an OLED. If it were a backlight strobbing kinda thing (I know it doest apply to OLED that way since it doesn't have a backlight, but something like turning off all the pixels that had a non-black image between each frame) then it would be better. But I don't see the point of inserting a black frame unless it is to consume media.
But BFI is only for the 1440p 480hz model, right? If I remember correctly, the Dual-Hz model will be using ELMB, but not entirely sure what the difference is between ELMB, ULMB 1/2, and BFI. It might be that BFI is the ELMB mode they advertised.
@@PD-ws4td ELMB is Nvidia's implementation of BFI. I don't care about the 32" monitor, only competitive, so the 1440p 480hz is the one I'm interested in.
@PD-ws4td to explain, If a display has 120hz, and you turn on BFI/ELMB what it does is display 120 actual images and 120 black frames in-between each of the 120 actual images. This helps ghosting by clearing out anything with the previous image may have left over. It was known as 240hz fluid motion in a lot of 120hz TVs. The problem with this is the obvious latency of having a black frame inserted between each actual frame. Now Nvidia's ULMB or Zowie's DyAC attempts to solve the same ghosting issue, but with a different approach to avoid the latency impact. If the display has 120hz with ULMB/DyAC it displays just those 120 actual images, BUT, between each frame, it turns off the back light, to try and mitigate the after image effect which we call ghosting. This actually works even better than BFI, because "refreshing" the light allows for even a clearer image than just inserting a black frame on a back light that never turned off. Now, the issue with OLED is that there is no backlight to turn off, so you would literally have to turn off all the pixels in the screen, orrrrr, turn off atleast the ones that showed any color other than black. But with that being said, OLED is so good anyways in motion clarity, that it probably doesn't even need either.
We want SOO to enable the excellent *single* strobe (as this must be less than 1ms MPRT) at 50Hz for retrogaming and for multimedia (live TV, Europe, 50fps videos...) and at 60Hz for retrogaming. 🙂
I believe dual mode for 2k 480 Hz would have been better. For instance, we could play competitive games at 480 Hz and story games at 4k 144 Hz/4k 240 Hz. Moreover, a 27-inch display would be sufficient for everything, and you could handle all your tasks from a single screen.
1440p can't be scaled from 4K with Integer scaling in 2:1 ratio, meaning it will look much blurrier than a 2:1 1080p scale from 4K like what the Asus PG32UCDP is doing. Most probably the reason why a 1440p dual mode monitor doesn't exist.
@@atirta777Not for a full size screen, but there's also ways to just make the screen smaller, and on a 32inch monitor, it would 1000% make sense to see all of your screen real estate at high refreh
What about dp 1.4 limit? I am intrested on upgrading from samaung g7 to oled 1440p 360hz but i read its limited by actual graphic cards, regarding color bits and so on
first time actually seeing the BFI in action on OLED, very impressive! HOWEVER, if it doesn't support the full 480hz, it's pretty useless tbh. In that case it's better they just release a cheaper 240hz version that comes with BFI instead of introducing it to a 480hz model where everyone will run it at maximum anyways, so not much point there if it's capped.
At the moment OLED's can only implement BFI at half of the Hz rate. There is a perfectly good reason to have BFI even at half the refresh and thats because in those games where you cant reach 480hz but can reach 240hz you turn on BFI and you will in theory get the same perceived motion clarity of the 480hz. The only difference is there will be in the refresh delay
@@themetamind9305 yeah that makes perfectly sense. but OLED is already so much superior in motion clarity that especially at 480hz, it looks near perfect. if you can drive over 400fps, nobody would pick the 240hz BFI mode over native 480hz, just not much value in that.
Although, it does support g-sync I believe so if you're close to 480 but not quite there, g-sync could be a good option. Although, I bet BFI + 240hz runs like a stable 480hz.
@@adamskinner if you want gsync then BFI won't work. it requires a fixed refresh rate. and if you can't hit 240fps, then it's best to just keep it at g-sync for a better experience. BFI use case here is very niche. I think the vast majority will just keep it at 480hz and that's it.
The current Asus OLED got a 25 inch mode with an update so I guess this will get it too. As far as I know all current Asus 27 inch gaming monitors have one.
But it doesn’t adjust resolution does it ? I’ve had last week the pg27aqn here and on this you had esports 25“ mode and the res went from 1440 to 1332p and the 25“ mode ONLY applied, when I used this resolution ingame in cod for example On my XG27aqmr I could aswell switch from 27 to 25“, but then the whole windows was shown in 25 inch, not the game only, and the resolution still was 1440p Now I have the pg27aqdm with the mc104 firmware, but I didn’t test the 25 inch mode, but I think the display will also act like it did on the XG27aqmr, so only 25 inch for the whole windows + no adjustment to 1332p, so no fps gain even tho it was a small one on the pg27aqn
Why there is no exist 1080p oled monitor and 24 inch why? Why every oled monitors minimum 27 inch and 4k or 2k. Compatitive games are just need 1080p and 24 inch screen. Why no body think fullhd gamers.
Monitors are the only good thing ASUS makes; woooooo. Also, ASUS's proprietary stupidity is garbage. Mobo's will melt, plus you have to keep buying that BTF line, lmao
I use ultrawide monitors for gaming and I don't see myself going back to 16:9 displays again so haven't seen any new monitors that interest me. As for the BTF graphics card, I don't know if I'm comfortable with pushing that much wattage through that tiny copper slot. Wonder how reliable it is in the long term.
@@abc-ni9lp as long as Nvidia doesn't update the gsync module to support both DP 2.1 and HDMI 2.1, this won't happen. Besides, even HDMI 2.1 will need DSC for 1440p 480fps.
Iv watched soo many other channels show this monitor and none of them went this in depth like you did. Thank you for really trying to show what this monitor is about
Bro is killing it.
How’s that’s 4080 feeling for $1200 after the $999 4080 super
@@Deytookourjurrrs I got the Zotac AIRO Extreme for 1040 Sealed brand new from Amazon. No way I would have paid 1200
Any CRT PC monitor and CRT TV has better motion clarity than any OLED.
Still random kid with his soviet union crt and toaster instead of computer will dominate you in warzone :(
😂
what i sense smthing serious here pls elaborate 😊
Because they are cheating 😂
But CRTs monitors are by far the best for gaming. Motion clarity is unmatched.
warzone cant even utilize this monitor 😂
Loving those CES videos, Jufes! You are a natural 💪 Hi kitty, the obvious star of the show 🐱🫶
You are the only person that actually asked about the 25" mode and I respect that so here is a sub.
This would be the world's first 240hz bfi OLED, I'm very excited
In terms of burn-in warranty, we have Asus now confirmed with 2 years warranty, Dell with 3 years, and LG 2 years, nothing yet on Gigabyte, HP, Samsung and MSI (to my knowledge).
Looks like MSI is 3
That Matte finish killed it.
test it yourself. don't trust Display Guy's hate.
@@ghinochips5842 yea I honestly don't mind matte coating I have one asus 4k pg32ucdp so this comment of mine didn't age well I actually prefer matte now lol
Oh wow, 240hz BFI confirmed! Most likely a software implementation that’d match 480hz in motion clarity. Very cool. 😎
Slo mo mode worked well. Thanks Jufes!
The hertz wars are still going on, meanwhile CRT monitors are still the kings for motion clarity.
An OLED with BFI is a CRT with broken electron guns and coils and low brightness.
You have to find a monitor with strobbing, it beats BFI.
I mean, if you have a game/rig that can push 480hz, I'd say run it without BFI. But for a game like Quakelive that tops out at 250fps (yep, still playing quake after 25 years LOL), 240hz + BFI oled is endgame.
I wonder why they are only doing a 2 year warranty vs alienware with their 3 year for oleds. Thanks for the content Jufes
Woled that why
@@levispartan1993 Yep WOLED vs QDOLED. I just pulled the trigger on the AW 1440p 360hz, I had $200 in Dell gift cards so $699 is a no brainer.
@@arc00ta How do I get those discounts?
its just abit sad that the alienware hdmi2.1 does not support 360hz refresh rate just 240 you will have to use dp 1.4 for 360hz very sad day for alienware@@arc00ta
@@gatokiller1444 down on your knees boy
Good one. And Lyla be like... "Ohhh sure... now you're home after leaving me."
13:00 I personally dont like "BTF" connector on graphics card because it introduces an extra connection/point of failure. It still uses same 12pin cable from PSU and if something goes wrong, those 600W of juice will melt not only connector on the backside of motherboard (there is no airflow ), but motherboard and, possibly, everything on it as well.
Keep the awesome content coming jufes
Sweet! ❤ thanks Jufes, fantastic content, love seeing your channel & content grow. lol all the zombies walking by. Hello-Kitty!
your kitty be like: " Are you done yet " ?
BTF would be a good standard if it shakes out. At the end of the video, did you ban those people in your outtakes. 😂 I never thought being banned would be so much fun. ✌🏻”No soup for you, come back tomorrow”
Thanks for the content man! You really showed us a different view from CES. Glad you made it back on one piece.
awesome reviewer ... Stright to the point and the stuff that matters not Gibberish talk some other reviewers do.
OLED looks amazing! But it's like buying a ticking time bomb! When's it going to go! If one had a budget for every two year replacement, then it's a no brainer.
Just look at them as gaming and multimedia monitors - don't do office work and you be alright, and most of them have burn-in warranty and tons of burn-in prevention software, which will only get better and better. I remember when OLED Tvs came to the market in 2016, the first 2-3 years were rough and then they figured it out - won't be any different here.
My 67Hz Samsung Syncmaster 955DF 19inch CRT monitor looks clean on the UFO test vs the OLED at 480Hz which is still blurry.😊
I might purchase a full BTF system as a display piece. Would be very cool to finally be completely cordless.
0:40 is the asus 480 hz glossy or matte?
12:40 that would be great if no cables becomes the standard. Just plug stuff into the board.
14:00nice kitty!
Matte unfortunately. XG27AQDMG is glossy coming out May 30th for $699.
Still using Display Port 1.4… why? How much money would they “lose” if they used 2.1?
What difference does it make ? It’s hitting 480HZ at 1440P
Its wqhd not 4k. Dp 2.1 makes no sense
I'm still upset no company has made a 24 inch OLED monitor, that would absolutely be my endgame monitor.
My 19 inch Samsung Syncmaster 955DF CRT ruined me, it's a 22 year old monitor, the image quality is ridiculous for the age (1856x1392 res, OLED-like colors and contrast), motion clarity better than real life, no aliasing, no upscaling blur, variable refresh rates...
OLED is an extremely lightweight CRT that only shares the amazing contrast and colors, the rest is way worse.
Profile switching implementation from Zowie is still the best man. That switching device makes it so easy.
how is that super powered Asus PC getting Blur Busters stutter warnings lmao
The cordless GPU I’m 💯 about. I would definitely buy all that for sure.
“12VHPWR anxiety” 🤣 Oh, I def have it!!!
Great stuff, Jufes. Hi Lyla!!!
I still prefer ULMB/DyAC over BFI. Inserting a black frame is just adding latency, I think I rather have the latency advantage over whatever minor ghosting there might be on an OLED. If it were a backlight strobbing kinda thing (I know it doest apply to OLED that way since it doesn't have a backlight, but something like turning off all the pixels that had a non-black image between each frame) then it would be better. But I don't see the point of inserting a black frame unless it is to consume media.
ULMB adds latency as well since it waits until the pixel is fully loaded before showing it.
that added latency is very minimal vs halving the refresh rate@@dimwillow7113
But BFI is only for the 1440p 480hz model, right? If I remember correctly, the Dual-Hz model will be using ELMB, but not entirely sure what the difference is between ELMB, ULMB 1/2, and BFI. It might be that BFI is the ELMB mode they advertised.
@@PD-ws4td ELMB is Nvidia's implementation of BFI. I don't care about the 32" monitor, only competitive, so the 1440p 480hz is the one I'm interested in.
@PD-ws4td to explain, If a display has 120hz, and you turn on BFI/ELMB what it does is display 120 actual images and 120 black frames in-between each of the 120 actual images. This helps ghosting by clearing out anything with the previous image may have left over. It was known as 240hz fluid motion in a lot of 120hz TVs.
The problem with this is the obvious latency of having a black frame inserted between each actual frame.
Now Nvidia's ULMB or Zowie's DyAC attempts to solve the same ghosting issue, but with a different approach to avoid the latency impact. If the display has 120hz with ULMB/DyAC it displays just those 120 actual images, BUT, between each frame, it turns off the back light, to try and mitigate the after image effect which we call ghosting. This actually works even better than BFI, because "refreshing" the light allows for even a clearer image than just inserting a black frame on a back light that never turned off.
Now, the issue with OLED is that there is no backlight to turn off, so you would literally have to turn off all the pixels in the screen, orrrrr, turn off atleast the ones that showed any color other than black. But with that being said, OLED is so good anyways in motion clarity, that it probably doesn't even need either.
If you follow the ufo with the phone so it stays relatively centered in the frame it works a lot better
We want SOO to enable the excellent *single* strobe (as this must be less than 1ms MPRT) at 50Hz for retrogaming and for multimedia (live TV, Europe, 50fps videos...) and at 60Hz for retrogaming. 🙂
Thats a cute kitty!
Cats always get a like xD
pg32udcp can do 480 hz 1080p in 25 inches?or stays up to 32?
I believe it's full 32
Incredible. I really do want this. The text issues can alse be addressed by Microsoft at the Windows level.
Good job zooming on the txt!
Jufes at CES! good stuff~!
clutch ending!
Oled blur it's one of the things that push me back... The L looks so bad
I believe that BTF means "back to front"
No it dosent. It means back to future
@@Justmakesomenoiz Well, in a video I saw at the asus booth, that's exactly what they called it so...
This is the monitor I got my eyes on for 2024. Looking forward to more info closer to the release
Alienware better
I wonder what the driver overhead is for the screen app? cant compete if its a resource hog. also, what about privacy?
I believe dual mode for 2k 480 Hz would have been better. For instance, we could play competitive games at 480 Hz and story games at 4k 144 Hz/4k 240 Hz. Moreover, a 27-inch display would be sufficient for everything, and you could handle all your tasks from a single screen.
1440p can't be scaled from 4K with Integer scaling in 2:1 ratio, meaning it will look much blurrier than a 2:1 1080p scale from 4K like what the Asus PG32UCDP is doing. Most probably the reason why a 1440p dual mode monitor doesn't exist.
@@atirta777^
@@atirta777Not for a full size screen, but there's also ways to just make the screen smaller, and on a 32inch monitor, it would 1000% make sense to see all of your screen real estate at high refreh
Display widget software has been out for a while actually. It’s nice.
What about dp 1.4 limit? I am intrested on upgrading from samaung g7 to oled 1440p 360hz but i read its limited by actual graphic cards, regarding color bits and so on
That last bit 😂
am I the only one that thinks the strix is the ugliest 4090 on the market.
first time actually seeing the BFI in action on OLED, very impressive! HOWEVER, if it doesn't support the full 480hz, it's pretty useless tbh. In that case it's better they just release a cheaper 240hz version that comes with BFI instead of introducing it to a 480hz model where everyone will run it at maximum anyways, so not much point there if it's capped.
At the moment OLED's can only implement BFI at half of the Hz rate.
There is a perfectly good reason to have BFI even at half the refresh and thats because in those games where you cant reach 480hz but can reach 240hz you turn on BFI and you will in theory get the same perceived motion clarity of the 480hz. The only difference is there will be in the refresh delay
@@themetamind9305 yeah that makes perfectly sense. but OLED is already so much superior in motion clarity that especially at 480hz, it looks near perfect. if you can drive over 400fps, nobody would pick the 240hz BFI mode over native 480hz, just not much value in that.
Agreed. But if you can't push the full 480z with your rig at all times, 240 + BFI would be superior and more stable.@@patrikmedia
Although, it does support g-sync I believe so if you're close to 480 but not quite there, g-sync could be a good option. Although, I bet BFI + 240hz runs like a stable 480hz.
@@adamskinner if you want gsync then BFI won't work. it requires a fixed refresh rate. and if you can't hit 240fps, then it's best to just keep it at g-sync for a better experience. BFI use case here is very niche. I think the vast majority will just keep it at 480hz and that's it.
Overkill, you'd be pressed to see the diff between 240/360/480.
1 Mhz refresh rate or riot!
A 60Hz CRT is enough.
very unfortunate that the 480hz oled has a matte screen
optimum tech said that after using both matte and glossy, he didn't see much if any deference. so.... it should be good..
@@dark2bonewell, maybe you won’t see a big difference, but what you actually can see that glossy qd oled looks like crap when the lights are on
test it yourself. don't trust Display Guy's hate.
@@ghinochips5842 I tried the pg32ucdp and it’s a matte WOLED and I returned it for the pg32ucdm which is glossy QDOLED I absolutely love it
The current Asus OLED got a 25 inch mode with an update so I guess this will get it too. As far as I know all current Asus 27 inch gaming monitors have one.
But it doesn’t adjust resolution does it ? I’ve had last week the pg27aqn here and on this you had esports 25“ mode and the res went from 1440 to 1332p and the 25“ mode ONLY applied, when I used this resolution ingame in cod for example
On my XG27aqmr I could aswell switch from 27 to 25“, but then the whole windows was shown in 25 inch, not the game only, and the resolution still was 1440p
Now I have the pg27aqdm with the mc104 firmware, but I didn’t test the 25 inch mode, but I think the display will also act like it did on the XG27aqmr, so only 25 inch for the whole windows + no adjustment to 1332p, so no fps gain even tho it was a small one on the pg27aqn
@@kerim_og_9378bro what do you think of the AQN are you still using it? I really tempted to buy one but I’m just not 100%
Is it 1080p on 32"? (i hope it is less)
watch the video goober. also it's in the title are you slow?
i just do it slow with your mom@@ballstomper8889
27'' 4k... if I want 32''+ I buy TV
Thanks for asking about 25” model wish they could make a 24/25” oled monitor…
Why ist the 480hz display matt ?😪
What is this glossy fetish I can't get it? Not everyone lives in a basement...
these power connectors for gfx cards should just be standard
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1440p is for budget builds
Brooo why not showing us the real ucdm 6:18 it’s the same ucdp lg panel it’s not glossy too and it’s written on top either😅
AWE some
Why there is no exist 1080p oled monitor and 24 inch why? Why every oled monitors minimum 27 inch and 4k or 2k. Compatitive games are just need 1080p and 24 inch screen. Why no body think fullhd gamers.
6:10 "Samsung panel" Why would anyone buy Samsung? They always break within short time..
Why are monitors always less developed..... ?
Monitors are the only good thing ASUS makes; woooooo. Also, ASUS's proprietary stupidity is garbage. Mobo's will melt, plus you have to keep buying that BTF line, lmao
So this asus 1440p 480hz is better then the Lg 1440p 480hz?
🥰
1080p on 32'' screen. PPI is going to be yikes.
I use ultrawide monitors for gaming and I don't see myself going back to 16:9 displays again so haven't seen any new monitors that interest me.
As for the BTF graphics card, I don't know if I'm comfortable with pushing that much wattage through that tiny copper slot. Wonder how reliable it is in the long term.
epilepsy warning.
Jufles, did you ever picked up a descent CRT monitor and played games on it?
Once you do that you don't want to go back.
Very pretty kitty
very cute kitty
The case they are using for the display PC is so bad…. no airflow what so ever
1080P 480hz 1440 240hz.
Matte!
You need a epilepsy warning for this vid 🤣🤣🤣
1440ppppppp😂
Asus has bad firmware support and they take ages to fix bugs with their displays.. beware..
Another matte panel. I'll pass.
Say BTF one more time
No 25", nopo
Matte 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
jewfessss waazzZzaaaa
I voted "bad" because your camera doesn't follow to any object (watch 3:21). Therefore, we can't test the motion blur. 😕😕👎
A 60Hz CRT has better motion clarity
Does DP1.4 on 4090 work on 1440p 480hz?
Of course. DSC does wonders.
Max is 360 or 240 i believe
HDMI2.1 would be better
with DSC it works
@@abc-ni9lp as long as Nvidia doesn't update the gsync module to support both DP 2.1 and HDMI 2.1, this won't happen. Besides, even HDMI 2.1 will need DSC for 1440p 480fps.
No vivid pixel on monitor is a loss