X Elite vs M1 MacBook Air - NOT What We Expected.. 😲
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2024
- Can the X Elite Surface Laptop 7 DESTROY the Legendary M1 MacBook Air? Let's find out!
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X Elite Surface Laptop 7 vs M1 MBA - 00:00
Design Differences - 01:24
Speaker Comparison - 02:39
Display Differences - 03:38
Webcam & Mic Comparison - 05:07
SSD Speed Test - 05:49
Geekbench 6 CPU - 06:33
Speedometer 3.0 - 07:25
Figma Web Design - 07:53
3D Mark Steel Nomad - 09:08
Blender 4.1 BMW Render - 09:56
Cinebench 2024 - 11:06
Lightroom Classic Photo Editing - 11:39
DaVinci Resolve Video Editing - 13:46
Battery Life Comparison - 15:25
Final Thoughts - 16:11
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Buy the M1 MacBook Air for $699 ➡ geni.us/8S0cCt
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Geekbench is the worst benchmark to compare multicore performance
Snapdragon X Elite 💪💪🔋🔋🔥
Please do an AI test.
🤮🤮
It was nice of you to include battery capacities this time around, instead of hiding it in other review videos.
The M1 MacBook Air truly is a legendary laptop. Fast, light weight and all-day battery life. Still holds up 4 years later.
The equivalent of the iPhone X
With 16 GB memory and 8 core gpu it would be even slightly better
And therein lies Apples problem: people that own M1 have ZERO reason to upgrade to m2,m3 or m4 lol
It's a bit less than 4 years still, but indeed legendary laptop
@@bjarne431 You're totally right. No need to upgrade my M1 Pro
Snapdragon focused on CPU so much that they forgot about GPU 🤣
And lost on both.
@@user-fb3iy1wh9vhow??? Geekbench shows much better scores
@@user-fb3iy1wh9v In what way? The fastest Snapdragon X Elite chip is 22% faster than the M3 Pro
The CPU is actually new but the GPU is the exact same one with use on their phones
@@MainInternetUser no it’s not
I still use my M1 MacBook Air that i got in 2021 and I will probably keep using it for a couple of years. It is genuinely the best tech I have ever purchased and I have never regretted getting it, it is crazy how ahead of its time it was.
I’ve used one for 2 years; my sis had one that’s used; working great for both of us!!!
Do you mind me asking what you are using it for?
6 mos ago I traded my 2021 M1 (which I loved) in for the 15" M2 because I needed a bigger screen for my 73 y.o. eyes. I was impelled also by getting 525 USD trade value for an on sale 999 USD 15"M2. I love the bigger screen but don't see this computer as any better for my use case.
My M1 Pro is a beast soon to be 3 years. My colleagues PC sounds like vacuum cleaners during the same load
I found a used one with 16GB RAM and 256gb ssd from Back Market for around $650. Other than battery life, it should work for a long time.
Nah, with $1400 I got myself a 14 inch M1 pro with upgrade CPU + GPU and 1tb ssd.
And faster than the highest snapdragon models
on eBay with a little time investment you can easily get a M2 Pro 14 inch with $1400.
I’ve got 16 inch one for the same price, and it clears this snapdragon one by any measure possible by at least 200%
I got my M3 MacBook Air for 1300 😂
Well my 16inch m1max was already r9 5900X, NOT HX, X lvl in multi core and was clearly leagues beyond ADL-MTL.
This X elite for its price is nothing but a bad joke, aside the cpu grunt which isnt anything impressive just ok
For me the Webcam on the M1 Macbook Air is still better. It looks sharper even though it's 720P? Also the Mics on the Macbook Air sounds better. And I'm not an Apple Fanboy!
That is due to better AI camera with MacOS. Very underrated.
@@akin242002”copilot + PC”
I agree : the Elite cam looks blurry.
I am an Apple Fanboy. But that's exactly what I thought when he started the test. I thought he was going with the Dragonthingy first. But then her said, that was the M1 Mac Book Air. Then switched ofer to the 1080p Dragon and went like: "It much better and sharper and the Microphones..." and I was like: "Huh? I mean... Huh?" But maybe we just didn't see what he saw. WHAT I saw was a four year old super-standard lowest line Mac for half the price of that brandnew flagship... still eating it for breakfast if it comes to real life usage and not to benchmark tests.
By the way: hook both of them up to the power and run those tests again! I don't know how that Dragon will perform. But I know, the little Mac is gonna shift two gears right into overdrive. The M1 is lazy. If there's no electricity, connected, it does what it has to. Not more. When put the cord to it, it's maximum performance.
@xavierrouet3654 The M chip pros 1080p cameras look like Dell Latitude 1440p web camera. Whatever secret code that Apple's camera team has, it works and they should never let that secret out.
My M1 Macbook aIR still gives me shivers 4 years after my purchase!
Same
Can feel that bro
It really is a lovely computer. I would have been a convert if not for Apple's hatred for touchscreens.
Why would you need a touchscreen on a laptop? I’ve never felt any motivation to poke the screen with my finger-the touchpad is just more precise and functional.
its never "too early" if the product is selling to consumers, they shouldn't have put it to sale if the product is not ready.
"Never. Ever. Buy a tech product based on the promise of future software updates." - Marques Brownlee (MKBHD)
then why did he buy a tesla
FYI it's Marques Brownlee.
@@barfdragon582 Because the Tesla has enough features to warrant the purchase
@@michaelmajano7520 *Marquee Brownies
Markus Brownly ☠️ ☠️ ☠️
Just 699 dollars to leave Windows behind forever. No brainer.
I'd upgrade the ram, but it's still a great price with 16bg.
Windows will lower the price too dont worry
And you will leave the touchscreen behind as well. I also assume that the M1 is not going to last much longer with updates. The m1 would be amazing if you could just get a touchscreen version. Oh well...
AMEN!
@@aleksdeveloper698I don’t care if it is lowered to zero, Windows still sucks!
Again, Davinci Resolve is still in beta and thus not optimized. When the M series was launched, developers needed to port their apps to apple silicon because there was no other architecture. On Windows, there still is x86, which means developers are not as incentivized to port and optimize their apps for ARM.
My guess would be that the SDx is throttling due to low battery(similar to a smart phone). Someone did a cinebench test at 31% battery and it only scored 700s versus the 900s when at full battery. Optimization in Davinci Resolve is not likely to result in much performance gains on the SDx as the iGPU is already hitting 100% usage throughout the test.
@@longdang2681 How to say that you know nothing about computers not saying it? It's hitting 100% exactly because it's not optimized and it uses generic algorithms that can be run on any CPU/GPU. Optimization will use the best instructions available, not default.
@@alehkhantsevich113 A non GPU accelerated programme(completely non optimized software sits at 0% GPU utilisation). Optimization is not a miracle. Once you have it at 100%, you are left with juggling that 100% to make it more productive. Moving from 50% to 100% via (resource enabling)optimisation produces a huge 100% increase in performance. Juggling resources already at 100% doesn't produce a lot of additional performance. The SDx is losing by huge amounts in Davinci Resolve whilst it's already hitting 100% resources; even if you were to be able to get a big increase in performance via optimising Davinci Resolve, it changes nothing.
Using the generalised meaning of optimisation is useless, as you need to apply it to the problem at hand.
@@alehkhantsevich113 A non GPU accelerated programme(completely non optimized software sits at 0% GPU utilisation). Optimization is not a miracle. Once you have it at 100%, you are left with juggling that 100% to make it more productive. Moving from 50% to 100% via (resource enabling)optimisation produces a huge 100% increase in performance. Juggling resources already at 100% doesn't produce a lot of additional performance. The SDx is losing by huge amounts in Davinci Resolve whilst it's already hitting 100% resources; even if you were to be able to get a big increase in performance via optimising Davinci Resolve, it changes nothing.
Using the generalised meaning of optimisation is useless, as you need to apply it to the problem at hand.
@@alehkhantsevich113 A non GPU accelerated programme(completely non optimized software sits at 0% GPU utilisation). Optimization is not a miracle. Once you have it at 100%, you are left with juggling that 100% to make it more productive. Moving from 50% to 100% via (resource enabling)optimisation produces a huge 100% increase in performance. Juggling resources already at 100% doesn't produce a lot of additional performance. The SDx is losing by huge amounts in Davinci Resolve whilst it's already hitting 100% resources; even if you were to be able to get a big increase in performance via optimising Davinci Resolve, it changes nothing.
Using the generalised meaning of optimisation is useless, as you need to apply it to the problem at hand.
I genuinely don't understand the hype of the x elite chips. They bragged about AI so much and people thought that actually meant something. They showed a ton of examples of Magic Mask in Davinci Resolve cause it uses AI, but didn't bother showing how terrible the scrubbing is on the timeline. You can get an M1 Max MacBook for the same price as a surface laptop with 32gb of ram, and the M1 Max is WAYYYYYYYYY ahead. Maybe windows can eventually compete, but they're gonna need another 5-10 years.
On top of 6 years of bettering Windows on ARM? That’s too long of a wait man
X elite gives extra battery life, the AI & copilot is pure marketing /
Gimmick. Most people are still going to just use Google. In the areas of photo / graphics and video the generative AI is still new territory.
I agree. AI is great companion for productivity. But when it comes to productivity laptop, things that we care the most is the balance between performance, battery life and portability
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so, basically a new 1,400$ laptop is SLIGHTLY better than a 4 years old 700$ MacBook.
Good Job Qualcomm 😅😅
It is not better. It is worse.
@@user-fb3iy1wh9vunoptimised davinci resolve means it’s worse!!! I am so smart!!!
Not actually, it is too early to do a comparison like this, bro didn't even change surface parameters.
By default windows unplug are in balance mode, he need to put the laptop in performance mode to have the full performance
And most software are not compatible yet, so the process go to an emulator that reduces the performance
I am not a reviewers but at least he needed to point out that
@@kinart243 it’s been like 7 years for Windows on ARM to better itself and there are still issues like these?
@@kinart243So the balance mode is to save battery, and it loses miserably in the battery department even though it’s on balance mode and have a bigger battery! Imagine if it’s in performance, it’ll hardly beat the old Intel!
Not only the efficiency, the GPU is a joke as well. Mobile GPU with miserable performances that can’t beat a 4yo lower than base spec Mac! And no HW RayTracing and Shaders. Encoders are a joke as was shown in the comparison video. AI is a joke even when it was marketed as the ultimate AI laptop!
Prism is a joke that can’t run more than 40% of old x86 SW and most games, plugins and drivers. That doesn’t need optimization. That need a big stop and reevaluation. They’ve got ex-Apple engineers who worked on the M1 to build this chip when both Qualcomm and Microsoft failed for the most decade working kn Theo own. But it seems these engineers have forgot to take some GPuU designs when they left Apple.
Very disappointing after all the hype they’ve made. But disappointment is the second name of Microsoft.
The fact that M1 is literally better in real world performance is so embarrasing.
it isnt better. it has some software optimized for it the last 4 years. but its still a toy OS made for tiktokers
@@S1eepershow is it a toy OS?
@@hprxd Some ppl are still delusional, ignore them
@@hprxd in every way. Ot cant control a factory plant any softeare ypu can run on both, you can build a pc for 1/3 of the price that runs 3 times better at. You can do everything in windows. You cant on mac. In that way
@@S1eepers You are comparing a stationary computer with a fanless super thin laptop. I built a more powerful pc form 450 euros and i also have an m1 macbook air 16gb ram model and while my pc gets better Cinebench score, it still uses more electricity is louder and also is NOT PORTABLE. Also calling mac os a toy os is such a misinformed take.. I use both and have been using mac os for 12 years now. There is NOTHING i can't do on Mac OS. I only use my pc for gaming but for everything else including audio production, i use the dead silent mac.
Snapdragon X Elite is a fantastic ARM CPU. Finally, no fan noise. I hope to see better GPU and Windows laptop speakers, like the amazing MacBook Pro speakers.
People here are quite fooled by software optimization that won't last long i believe. We are about to see the phone war, but on pc.
9:40 „I was hoping there would be a bigger difference here, cause we have a 4 year gap…“ 😂 says it all
benchmark is still wrong cus many apps for windows are not compiled for arm processor
These benchmarks are valid for time being.
Now compare the X Elite with the M3 Max lol. Apple Silicon is unbelievably good.
and expensive
@@JoseDiaz-qw7mg this is true as well
Compare ultrabook to a 4000$ laptop smh🤦♂️
Define "good" :) is it really good that you cannot upgrade RAM after 1-3 years when you just need more RAM?
And is it really good that the new chips from Apple feels like so delayed that we still got M2 in Mac Mini + Studio + Pro?
The reality is: Apple Silicon is not THAT good. You have to take a look at more factors than just the chip in an existing Mac...
@@JoseDiaz-qw7mg ... and made for professionals that usually have a ton of money if they are buying a Pro machine
12 core 2024 vs 8 core 2021 fanless...
12 performance cores vs 4 performance + 4 efficiency
@@pfitzpa1😂😂
Weird - you say the 1080p webcam looks better, but it realllly doesn't - it's so much blurrier compared to the macbook
Like, you can actually make out your hair on the macbook, the surface just blurs your hair as one continuous blob - considering it's 4x the resolution, it really isn't better
@@DanCarrerasto each their own, but that's 720p vs 1080p
It's Not 4x the resolution
It's a 1.5X at best, not to mention the surface doesn't have sharpening going on, the MacBook has intense sharpening effect
I dunno where you're watching but on a 32 inch monitor the MacBook indeed looks worse with the sharpening, the surface has it's issues with the agressive noise reduction but it doesn't look nearly as bad
@@RyanUniverseZ my bad, 2x the resolution (was thinking of 1440p). Watching at 4k on a 27inch oled monitor, yeah, there’s noise on the Mac, but the sharpening allows you to actually see the features and details of his face. The 1080p, whilst less noisey, is blurrier and loses details often.
Definitely agree, I thought the old MBA camera looked better as well
Must be some sort of driver issue
The company is NOT called Snapdragon - it's Qualcomm. Snapdragon is their ARM based CPU product stack.
Genuinely surprised - M1 held up pretty well. So in theory does that mean my M1 iPad is in ballpark striking range of my Surface Pro (Snapdragon)? Wow. Just goes to show, we don't always need the latest / greatest to get the job done.
Surface pro out performs it, but it’s not a total wash. The difference is what you can do on a surface pro compared to an iPad
@@christianr.5868 yes agree. I am infinitely more productive on the surface. Still like the iPad though but Surface a no brainer for doing work.
@@RemofRenaissance yeah I like the iPad as well. Just wish it could do more, I would’ve bought an m4 no problem 👌
The only thing stopping me from getting the surface laptop 7 is the reflectivity of the screen. I am really disappointed that they didn’t do a better job with that this time around.
At work inside one legacy program that will never be updated. I don’t know if it will run on the snapdragon. It’s so obscure I don’t think anyone will test it. This would be the perfect device for my office.,.but I may have to keep buying Intel because I cannot afford to drop 1,400 on something that might not run a critical program. 😟
Don’t get windows, it’s trash. Always will be.
@denysk.1178 agreed, don't get windows, I constantly have to reset my windows laptops because they run so slow after maybe 1 or 2 months of use, windows sucks at ram management, when I had a 16gb ram laptop it would use over 8gb for system which is ridiculous.
@@denysk.1178 I don’t think windows is trash and I never have a crash or have issues with things that don’t run on my current intel version. My issue is Macs seems to get everything right when it comes to hardware. And for windows it always seems like something is sacrificed. I want to like a laptop but there’s always one or two things in terms of hardware that aren’t good. One will have a good keyboard and the screen won’t be good. The other will have a good screen but the keyboard and trackpad aren’t good. I just want a machine where everything is at least close to good and that seems to be the case for Macs. But I still like to use Windows.
@@Pian0CatIf you open more programs, RAM will be allocated appropriately. RAM is meant to be used lol.
I guess we’re going a countdown from the M3, M2, and M1. Later on this year we’ll see the SnapDragon go up against the upcoming M4.
watching this on my m1 air, never had any performance or battery issues with it, the only thing that is a bit off are the bezels but other than that its great
Imagine Qualcomm has m1 up to m3 for reference but still failed. Apple gave them an assignment 4 years to be exact and still can't get it right. While on the making of apple silicon apple has nothing on the market to look up for recipes they managed to cook m series perfectly.
It never would've mattered how good the chip was. Windows is dogshit and MacBook build quality can't be topped
Lol qualcomm even acquired previous apple engineers that worked on M1 and still didn't get the Assignment right
I wouldn't say they necessarily failed.
Apple Silicon is still ahead but the X Elite is quite impressive for a first effort, and there's a lot of optimization to be done both by Microsoft and app developers. It took a little while for developers to catch up with the M1 as well (the Blender renders are way faster now with Metal support, and even then dedicated Nvidia support beats it out).
I'm just glad to see competition. I'll be keeping my M1 and M2 machines of course, but I also have a use case for a Linux laptop... and I'm really excited to see if the Linux support on these machines is good enough to finally ditch Intel and maybe have a Linux experience that doesn't kill the battery in an hour. Maybe. 😂
@@rainmannoodles We still don't know if developers would adopt to this. Seems like they are hesitant. I remember when M1 was released, a lot of companies were ready with native builds. When I bought my M2 mini (near release day) I don't use Rosetta anymore.
@@rainmannoodleswhy not run asahi on your macs? It'll be a while for snapdragon x linux support to be better, and that's if qualcomm actually decides to work hard on Linux support according to the roadmap. I have a bad feeling that best case scenario it'll match Asahi functionality by then and at worst it'll be a fundamentally broken experience for a couple years. 8cx took a couple years before Linux support became decentish and even then the battery life was aids and asahi still had a more solid experience.
One really annoying thing with the M1 MacBook Air is the screen doesn’t clear the keyboard when closed. Needs cleaning all the time to get rid of the keyboard smudges. Not sure if it’s all of them but I’ve read of a fair few.
yeah, me too. Nowadays, i don't clean the screen at all.
One thing you don’t mention is that the M1 MacBook Air’s chip and supporting hardware is 3.5 years old, but the rest of the MacBook Air dates back to October 2018. So you’re talking about competing against a nearly 6 year old chassis. I would hope that the Windows laptop would do better against those parts of the machine (screen, ports, etc) otherwise that is competitive malpractice.
Everything except the keyboard
Ain’t nobody buying 🦋⌨️ in 2024
Besides, that’s how Apple’s product design shines. Microsoft’s going through the right direction imo. You know what-the Alcantara keys didn’t fail back then yet nobody was talking about that! Surface Laptops always feel good for office work.
for me, Microsoft is and always will be a software company. Their dependence on Intel/AMD and now Qualcomm is telling.
You should choose Lenovo, Asus or Samsung Co-pilot+ PC for comparison. They are much more price advantages.
bought the m1 air 2 years ago and dont think ill need an upgrade for the next 3years since those new windows laptops cant keep up
If you get the 16GB RAM air, even better
Wow. Compare a four year old machine to a brand new. 😂
It just feels good knowing that computer hardware competition forces Microsoft to take action regarding power efficiency.
Will it take place though?🤔
@@justinnl4332 it's already taking place
Reading these comments (& I don't disagree), it's sad watching how much Microsoft / Window's reputation has been trashed over the last decade.
Its a new sentence to me (i don’t disagree😂) confused me
Remarkable, how the 2020 M1 is beating the latest in many ways. These spec-focused comparisons are always interesting, even if the competition between these platforms largely lies elsewhere. Win/PC sells on compatibility with "everything", while Mac sells on UX and vertical integration. Windows can't even touch the UX/integration advantages of Mac, but it does run more stuff. I use Windows, Mac, and Linux. In our IT department we'd dump every Windows machine tomorrow and open a bottle of champagne when done if it weren't for certain engineering software suites that only run on Windows. Wide compatibility remains Windows' greatest strength. Neither we, nor most any company ever provides their staff with the latest and greatest machines anyway. Compatibility is always the goal.
But you are losing that goal, the compability is not really good, there are a lot of apps what are refuse to run on their transition layer (not to mention the games are also have double transition just like the Mac, x86 to ARM on both, and DirectX to Metal on Apple devices and DirectX to Vulcan on Snapdragon, and because it's not use OpenGL and DirectX the compability with a tons of app are already ruined.. and don't expect the same rapidly refreshing apps like in the Apple app store, they completly stopped to selling any x86 device, so developers in the store had no choce just to update to ARM if they wanted to release a new version, but on Windows the x86 still on sale, and still have way bigger market share, developers will choose the most possible profit for themself, and that is not comes from the 5% market share, it's come from the 95% market share)
@@TamasKiss-yk4st I agree, we shouldn't expect Windows' transition to Arm to be as smooth as Apple's, that's for sure. It'll likely be mish-mash for a good while.
UX and UI windows over mac? Mac for kiddo only.. HPC and Aircraft Military Professional Weather simulation education Window destroyed Mac day and night even window has better RAM management against Mac.. as previous Mac owner I glad move on to better windows and Linux as main machine
Drop Copilot and focus on completing the X86 transition. Apple waited until their transition was complete until they even announced their AI OS ambitions.
Media engine in the x elite can compete, of course, you just have to wait a bit for x elite specific optimisations to arrive in respective software.
Hopefully. I hope to see more optimisations done for older chips like 835, 850 and 8cx gen 1-3
Can't wait to watch this I have been so excited for the snapdragon chips and see how they compare to MacBook's.
M1 Air, 16GB, 8GPU, 1TB, best laptop ever made.
Get an M1, Parallels and a licence of Windows 11, still likely quite a bit cheaper.
Bro these bezels are thick as hell💀
@@justinnl4332 in the 90s bezels were half of the screen size and nobody complained :P
Agreed, even back in Intel era, my i5 Macbook Pro 2013 with bootcamp was the best windows laptop i've ever seen.
Next, compare the latest MacBook Air with a 4 years old PC laptop.
Max, you didn’t test three most important apps people use laptops for: MS Word, Excel, and Netflix 😂 Seriously, unless you are among those lucky 1% of graphics/video creators, performance doesn’t matter beyond M1… I hope Apple doesn’t kill updates for it in 2-3 years like they always do!
Too early to compare like this without getting native windows arm applications
Not really than I’ll have to wait when they do optimize it when I want to see what computer to get now
Some of the applications they tested are native.
Sounds like cope, m1 was tested the same way too and nobody worried
its never "too early" if the product is selling to consumers, they shouldn't have put it to sale if the product is not ready.
"Never. Ever. Buy a tech product based on the promise of future software updates." - Markus Brownly (MKBHD)
this channel is totally a apple rider
Windows can’t keep up with the speakers from almost 4 generations ago.😂😂
What about looking at it critically for Apple. What is the difference between M1, M2, and M3? Not much has honestly changed.
M1 air has better speakers than M3 air.
The Zephyrus G14 has the same speakers as MBP 14 inch, stop crying now.
New xps have better speakers than macs.
new dell xps laughing in the corner
I am seriously impressed that base level M1's do this well. The M2 forced you to upgrade the SSD and RAM to beat the performance. The fact that a Windows machine with Windows branding can't smoke the cheapest M1 is outstanding after 4 years.
This is where I feel that Apple will still have the upper hand even if the Snapdragon X chips were some ultimate processor. 4 years of Apple silicon and an abundance of Macs made every year has allowed the price of the older iterations to drop. The M1 at the time was praised for being the best laptop for the large majority of the population, and thanks to M2 and M3, the price of it has dropped significantly. Of course you can't forget the M1/M2 Pro/Max chips which most users are still holding on to because of how it does everything they need it to do.
It's the trickling effect that happened with the iPhones, and happening with the Macs.
I like how in the Speed test you made the graph have way less range to make 1 point look like a huge gain for Mac (3%) which is barely outside of variable error, then when you did the 3d Mark test you set the range huge to make it look like a small gain even though it was like 10%. Bro I use both platforms and you're bias AF.
Still against a 4 yo machine you’d have expected the x elite to bury the m1 air……
Macbook Air Webcam was 10times better than the surface!
I'm quite impressed with EliteX. The only drawback is the operating system. Windows has too many ads and tracking these days.
Windows 10?
Хороший пример того, как процессор, натасканный на высокие баллы в тестах, с треском проваливает в реальных задачах
10:20 - блендер
15:04 - давинчи
Это рабочие программы для создания кино
11:28 - а вот "кинотест" (прямой перевод)
4 year old M1 chip is faster than the next Snapdragon X elite chip😂
More to do with OS. in 3 years time, it will be nearly same performance.
Not faster than the chip. Its just optimised. X elite is a new chip so itll take time for developers to design for x elite chip
@@test101meit’s never going to be the same. Nothing is optimized in x86 windows do you think they will do it for the arm ?😁
@@tnproduction7674YEP
@@tnproduction7674 It is optimized for x86 though? That's why it's slow on arm... Because an x86 application has to be emulated on arm
Really back and forth but the thing with the entry M1 is the weak memory situation. 256/8 should not be an option for anybody, especially if the machine does not allow upgrades. 512/16 should be a minimum. I'm really looking forward for M1 Pro comparison. It would be nice because the prices are really close. The M1 Pro MB can be found ever so slighly cheaper than the Surface which is a reminder of how incredible these machines were when they came out. I think the M1 Pro has real chances of beating the X Elite.
My daughter has been using M1 Air 256/8 for 3 years in college and for all her other computing needs and has zero need for more memory. It's perfectly fine for her needs.
@@pfitzpa1 If that's the case then good for her. It was still acceptable to have 256/8 in 2020 on a MB. Now things have changed. MacOS is becoming more and more demanding and with features like Apple Intelligence, we would require more memory for sure by default
Tbf the webcams dont look that much different
Qualcomm have to improve a lot for the next generation, as the Microsoft have to optimize better for ARM, as softwares companies have to transport your apps to native Windows ARM system.
Okay, that was great. Matching it against the weakest M1 Macbook. Now let’s get serious and pit it against the M1 Ultra. Time to stop playing around! 😊
Ultra? That makes no sense, the m1 ultra and X elite aren’t even in the same market
M1 Ultra? That is not fair if you use at least 12 power cores (i know the M1 Ultra had 16 power cores, but still closer in amount to 12 like the 4 power cores in basic chip..) agains their 12 power cores.. you only can compare it with 4 power cores to "make it fair" 😂
@@TamasKiss-yk4st lol then pit them against an M1 Max. Apple has all the lineup to in every generation😂
Waiting for a MacBook we with M1 chip
It is great to see a solid attempt at windows on arm. Maybe in 2-4 years when it is time to upgrade my current laptop there might be something worth buying.
They already had 6 years to prepare for this and look what’s been done over those years
Can someone explain to this guy that compiled for ARM doesn't mean "Optimized". Davinci just completely ignores GPU even in beta, the same for blender.
And just a quick thought, only 0.001 ppl care about image/video rendering performance, but every reviewer think that it's gold standard to compare something most ppl don't need at all.
excuses excuses excuses.......
cope
But if nothing else to show..? Like someone made a 5 sec long gaming part in his video (showed 10 different error messages in 5 sec..) those who had more parience checked about 100 games and half of them not even starting, and hakf of the remain started but can't call it to gaming (glitched screen, almost 1 sec input lag etc), and the remain games was fkagged as playable (so about 25%), but mosty just on 720p low settings.. (joke that resolution even managable by the stean deck and it's also cheaper..)
And the other apps are actually in about the same shoes, even the benchmark refused to start in one test for first try.. (and they was so proud of their benchnark results, so it should running smoothly..)
Finally someone that makes sense..
@@goobfilmcast4239 I am not saying that SD is perfect. I still think it could have a few E cores to make battery life even better. And current GPU is pretty mid, but for ppl that don't do gaming it has 0 impact. But Windows laptop is superior to dummy MacOS. So, even with current state of SD it's big step for Windows laptops. But I can admit that M chips still better in general.
Sorry but macbooks webcame was way better than surface
The biggest flaw of the X Elite is its OS...
Two years ago I got my first MacBook Air M1 while having a windows gaming laptop with RTX 2060.. and since then the MacBook is my main drive
Even though it doesn't beat out the mac in everything, I'm glad there's beginning to be competition. I would gladly buy a "good enough" pc to get out from under Apple's controlling ways. My main reason for sticking with the Mac as long as I have is there really haven't been alternatives that were remotely close in performance and value.
I didn't know why you keep saying "It's 4 years old". Age had nothing to do with good audio, there are speakers made in the 60's that are still thousands of dollars because they're awesome.
The first ARM laptop that’s not a joke vs the first Surface Notebook that’s not a joke
the base M1 MacBook Air is a monster even to this day, makes me confident my 15" MBA with 8GB/512GB will last me a long time. very impressed.
Half baked Window on ARM is very disappointing
Yeah, considering this whole concept of sth debuted far behind today-November 2017 to be exact. With the Snapdragon 835.
as always, lesser hardware on mac performs so much better in so many tasks, that why i stick with macbook pro over 13900k/4090 packed pC
4090 is for gamers you cant compare that. Its brutal power for 1% of the people.
And amd is much better than intel with amd 7900x or 78003d.
that comparison does not make any sense. with 13900k/4090 you can play any games you want. you can do scientific computation with it. you can also use cuda cores to train neural network. can't do it on a macbook.
@@serrael-182 i also do 3d motion so yeah it matters to me... but you do you.
@@ahsanihafizhu7129 my comment was about lower spec macbook still rocks vs "newer/better on paper windows machine", mac is miles ahead when you need to optimize equipment, the only thing i do on PC is constantly reinstalling GPU drivers cuz they are not compatible with whatever updated Resolve/MAxon/adobe is doing... on mac i click update once in a few month, wait 15 minutes and keep working like nothing changed, i dont even remember when i restarted my laptop last time because it never crashes
Run these performance tests again on an M1 MBA with 16GB RAM…particularly tests where the Surface was faster, but the difference shrinks considerably, and with the thermal pad mod you tested on MBAs. I believe all 16GB models also include the 8-core GPU.
And/or do a price equivalent 13.6” M3 MBA 16GB/215GB, currently $1349 new on Amazon. Comparable specs on everything except number of CPU cores, and of course GPU configuration.
The surface is better, it allows you to take a coffee while you render some video
Less than a minute gang!!
here
Overall, the X Elite is good but not worth it right now, but not bad for a first gen product, hope there will be further improvement from them for their next generations, and i hope they will not take longer than a year for the second generation, it's good to finally have competition
The improvements needed is software as I see it. ARM optimizations!
Not bad for a first gen? Are you smoking weed or something? That's like a disaster. They have m1 at the beginning to compare then m3 for reference that's too much for them to study and prepare their products but still they failed to compete with m1 that's 4 years old hardware. We're not even talking bout m4. I'd say that's straight up failure waiting for a discontinued product.
Btw, nowadays even the Intel N-Series, which is just the successor of the old Atom-Series, are faster and less power hungry then the M1 Basic. Sold in Mini-PCs a tenth of the size of the Mac Mini for €250 with more memory and more storage than an €1000 Mac.
3 days in a row, how many times did this guy upload this video
None of this matters, I wouldnt have a Windows machine if you paid me.
We all know most Apple users are gullible and fine with throwing money out the window...
@@exa4564 windows crap is more expensive tho
@@DustyKing You can find windows laptops for 200-300 bucks, which have the amount of power most people that buy a MacBook need...
And when you buy a higher end windows laptop, you get more functionality such as touch displays, 2 in 1's, upgradable component etc.
@@exa4564 can you list me a $300 laptop? Don’t tell me it’s made of cheap plastic, has poor display quality, poor build quality, poor performance, uses inefficient slow intel processors, have poor speakers and has poor battery life
@@exa4564 touch displays on a laptop is useless
Sorry, you are wrong about the front camera, the M1 is better, even the microphone is better….
Apple really needs to break that gaming threshold and then MS computers won’t exist. They need a gaming design, gaming keyboard, gaming mouse, faster refresh rates in their displays and it’s game over for MS. But they also need to make crossover software for direct X or work with game makers to create better compatibility.
A notebook which has a 7 years old design is has batter contrast and speakers than a laptop that came out like 2 weeks ago.
X Elite is excellent for running benchmarks, I think all professional benchmark runners should buy X Elite instead of mac. Mac is only for such a normal user to use, such as me.
120Hz touchscreen and user upgradeable SSD is an easy win
You should get the native version for the x elite of DaVinci Resolve
It’s a good comparison as a lot of people might be cross shopping these. Yes the price is very different but that’s the point: “is it worth it to pay extra for the Surface or should I save money and just get the M1 like everyone else”: that might be a popular question, especially for students.
If a student is considering surface or m1. They should probably go with m1 mac. Surface is a new device with a new CPU architecture (even tho win for arm existed before), so it'll take a fair amount of time for things to get optimised properly on those devices, where as m1 mac is pretty much polished now since its been 4 years already. Though i personally would choose neither and opt for a performance class lappy since i do more graphically heavy stuff.
Mac just beats everything
Interesting that the new X Elite Surface costs more than 2X that of the old M1, yet isn't much better, and fails in graphics applications & power consumption to the much older M1. For the money, you cannot go wrong with the M1. SnapDragon has a lot of catching up to do, against the newer M3 chips and beyond.
Wait until you upgrade the M1 Air to 16GB and 1TB lol. $1k5 straight away
Problem is not snapdragon but windows
@@zZTrungZzthe M1 isn’t being sold with custom configs anymore. The m3 air often goes on sale for 1100 for a 16gb/512gb configuration
Thank you for talking about the media encoders. I feel like no one's talking about that. As a video editor, it matters quite a bit to me. Thanks to those little guys, my MacBook for rough cuts and simpler projects is as nice to use as my beefed up desktop. With a 3080 and tons of RAM. .
the problem with Windows laptops is not the processor, but Windows itself
OMG PLEASE STOP comparing the unoptimized Programms. Its not even a month old. MY GOD
@dominicgeckel3972 We tested the M1 years ago exactly the same way we test these machines. How they come out of the box is how they are being sold to the consumer. If the consumer needs to wait 6 months before they can buy the laptops then they shouldn't be sold in the first place knowing users can't even use them.
@MaxTechOfficial It's unreasonable to expect them to convince all developers to develop for a product that isn't selling. They have to get people to buy in so that there is a market developers can develop for.
Comments are definitely mac biased here. I returned a brand new m3 MacBook Air for a 15” surface laptop 7. I like just about everything about the surface better aside from the speakers. Battery seems to last forever like the air. I only dealt with macOS for battery life. Now we can get that in a windows machine which is a major win. Competition for apple silicone is great for the market.
this channel and its community is basically just an Apple circlejerk.
Comments are simply reflecting the factual results of the test: the 4 year old M1 can trade blows with the brand new SnapDragon in terms of performance, while costing half the price and having a better battery life. What part of this statement do you not agree with?
@@HectorYague What part of my statement said I didn't agree with the comments? I shared my real world experience with both products as an unbiased user of said products.
@@Dan96max225 you said "Comments are definitely mac biased here". A "bias" implies that they are not based on factual data. However, the review results clearly favor the M1 (similar performance, half the price, better battery). So, if the review results favors the M1 and the comments therefore praise the M1, then they are NOT "definitely mac biased". They are indeed factual.
@@HectorYague again just sharing my real world experience with the devices.
So, you are saying that a 4 year old 8GB MBA looks better (Screen), sounds better, gets better battery life, can't hear it, gets beat out rarely, but when it wins destroys the Surface. Hmm, good to know.
All these comparison videos could just be chart on a webpage.
guys stop comparing thing that ARE NOT THE SAME ... apple to apple for guts' sake ! 8gb to 8gb or 16gb to 16gb ... my god does anybody have rigor anymore ?
Let us have fun 😅
Dumba**
I wish you included the 6k braw denoise tests and the other codecs in the davinci resolve tests, like in the last video. Please keep including these, I've really been missing those tests in this video!
How about a test with MacBook Pro M1 against the XElite?
i was waiting for this!!!
There was an upload related to xelite vs m3 - last 7 days. Title should have "We were wrong"
the windows is using prism emulator for most of the apps so lack of optimisation for new chip ray tracing is not enabled due to prism
What keeps me from buying the macbook is the additional $400 to upgrade to 16/512. I hope next macbook air will come with atleast 12/512 as base.
My question is are all these programs running natively on both of these or are they running through emulation? The Snapdragon X chips just came out and I’m guessing most programs aren’t optimized for them yet.
Guys, you’re the best. Thanks for your amazing work. Best regards from Italy!
Can you do a full battery test with power saving on on the surface and maybe the performance differences on power saving mode?
You should perform testing with audio software such as Pro Tools and Logic. Don't just add tracks in a project with Audio Units or VSTs to benchmark performance, have a standard project loaded with tracks and plugin's and render (bounce down to stereo) and compare export times.
Thanks for the video! I think that the comparison between Macbook Pro M1 and the Surface would have been also interesting (to avoid this throttling Air issue).
And also the Pro gives the processor it's full 13W of power versus 10W on the Air.
Actually M1 Pro would be the one for core count
My 14” M1 Pro still stands strong!