Always admired Patrick Head for not only his brilliant technical achievements in Motorsport but also his honest and modest attitude and always giving credit to others on the technical team who worked on the concepts. Bloody brilliant interview, also liked the word association.
20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM. I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Absolute gold dust. PH is a legend and I'm amazed that no serious motor racing writer has got a biography or 'ghost written' auto biography out of him. The stories he has to tell...............
@@gethinchislett9926 Worst part of the podcast is old mate saying "We're out of time". I don't care who you are, you're not out of time until Patrick is done talking.
20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM. I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Great interview. Nice to see him put Nigel in the same bracket as Senna and Prost. I think a lot of people just thought he was brave but lacked a God given gift in terms of natural ability. I think this puts the record straight. He should know.
20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM. I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Absolutely brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed that and I could have listened and listened. Such eloquent answers to the questions posed. Especially fascinated to hear about the Honda period and also learning more about Nigel Mansell. I'd love to have learnt more about why Damon was treated so badly (and Nigel too), these guys had such success with the team yet they weren't able to defend the championships they had won. I think Patrick touched on it and you could sense some regret. Hope to hear more on that for the next installments, as you definitely need to get Patrick back as he was obviously willing to talk for even longer. Thanks again for this 👍
So many people would kill to have a person the calibre of Patrick Head be willing to talk non stop about things that we may never have the opportunity again to discover, and you cut it off! If he was willing and kind enough to give of his time couldn’t you have at least done this in instalments?
Hi Teddy Bear - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
I love this... to hear what they thought of their cars, drivers, engineers..projects and processes.. I'm glad you just let him talk and talk. it was great.
PLEASE write that autobiography Sir Patrick! You're one of the foremost F1 heroes, from what is now recognised more and more as one of the golden ages of F1. What an incredible memory! So ludicrously sharp. I can barely believe the amount of detail you're able to recall seemingly as if it were yesterday. Williams have always been my favourite team, born from the personalities of Sir Frank and Sir Patrick and from growing up watching Nigel throw his William's around the tracks like a man possessed. That was such an enjoyable interview, it could have gone on and one 3 or 4 times the length and would not have become boring. I always thought Sir Patrick was this no nonsense gruff character but it turns out he is an amazingly considered, calm, insightful charming man. Thanks Motorsport for letting him talk. The questions were just prompts to get him talking in such wonderful detail. Brilliant.
Agree totally. There are any number of interviews with Adrian Newey, but that is for 2 reasons- his impressive talent as an aerodynamicist, and because he is the recent darling of F1. I could listen to Sir Patrick, and others of his era, for hours, just for the insights into the intricacies of competing at that level, and being forced to innovate in the ways that they did, as opposed to the stale, over-regulated environment of today.
First few minutes absolutely fascinating. Jonesy , Patrick & Frank are great friends. When Alan commented for TV in Australia, he commented that he had talked to Patrick that day. Alan is a fascinating guy. The whole interview a masterpiece.
I have watched Patrick’s career with enormous interest. First met him many years ago when BUMC were doing small night rallies, even spent a night marshalling with him in his red Hillman Imp with no windows because he’d rolled it. Years later was driving from Huntingdon to Gamlingay one Friday evening in my red Lotus Elan and had a great dice with a dark red Alfa. Wondered at the time if it was Patrick, like to think it was.
I've always admired PH for his engineering prowess. Safe to say there WGPE wouldn't have had much success without him. He was a hard task master but was respected by most drivers.
Wt heck , let him run . This could have been the greatest episode ever and you cut him short ? If cannot afford to run a digital camera perhaps you should call it a day find another line of work . Wow what a disaster !
Hi McClarenF161862 - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
joe rogans podcast , some videos are like 3+hours. These legendary figures shouldn’t be squeezed into such a tight time frame. We would all love to hear them go into details for at least 2 hours. Or have them come on like 6 times and just keep picking up where you left off. But even though the videos leave a lot to be desired because of how short they are. They are amazing.
It sounds like Patrick was comparing just the driving skill inside the car, not the complete package of developing the car or motivating the engineers or fitness levels. If they ran both Mansell and Prost in 1993 with the active cars. I think Nigel would have beaten Prost on pure skill because Prost knowledge advantage of setting up passive car did not apply to active suspension car.
Nelson Piquet the greatest F1 driver of all time. Had to fight the entire Williams team including Head to win the World Championship and also won two other championships with a worse car than Renault, the Heads Williams, McLaren and Ferrari. Never done before, he did it twice. Head just hates Piquet, its incredible, just as all the British media ... What did Head had to do with Piquet´s crash at Imola ´87? ... because we know what the responsability he had with Senna.... Greetings from Argentina
Just a reminder: The Italian Court of Appeal, on 13 April 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control." Even being found responsible for Senna's accident, Head was not arrested because in Italy, the statute of limitation for manslaughter is 7 years and 6 months, and the final verdict was pronounced 13 years after the accident
Everyone knows that was just a box ticking exercise from the Italian authorities knowing it was meaningless. Williams were the pinnacle of engineering and to even suggest that the steering column broke before impact is ridiculous. Senna drove too fast for the conditions and lost downforce (ride height/racing line) in a nervous car and had very, very bad luck. Several top line drivers crashed there and got away with it, but sadly Senna did not. Michael had the mental edge on Senna that season and I still think would have won had Senna lived.
Fun fact, at 1:03:00 when he talks about one guy designing the engine alone after work... The 2003ish Yamaha 250f four stroke motocross engine was done in the exact same way... Engineer doing it alone as a pet project.
I've always liked Patrick Head and this podcast only goes to show why. I'm getting old. My favourite F1 time was when Nigel was racing a Williams' car.
I know I am an absolute amateur/enthusiast but it doesn’t prevent me from having an opinion. For me Patrick Head is the embodiment of what was great about Williams and why they rose to such dominance, at the same time I feel that his ways also is telling to as why they have declined in the later years. When I hear about Williams in their forming years it seems like their rapid rise was because they had attracted brilliant and young persons like Dernie and Head. The entire operation was very frugal and efficient in regard to spending money every penny was used to improve car performance. In the interview the story of how they got their first wind tunnel with rolling road is told for almost nothing and the adapted to their usage almost like a diy project. This concept of using the money where they bring the biggest gains is wonderful if money supply is is limited. In the 1980’s and 1990’s this was the case. In the new millennium formula one budgets exploded and the Patrick Heads frugality formula turned against them, because when you have an open budget you can use fantasilions of pounds on some minor component change which only makes small improvements on the car. With the budgets in formula 1 in the last 20 years frugality has been out. Only performance at no cost mattered. Maybe the coming budget cap, in formula one, could make the old winning Head/Williams formula winning again. It will take some time because more sponsors will have to be found. Difficult in these days but probably possible. I wish Head and the Williams team all the best.
Such aan interestic conversation and Sir Head is a nice guy but that conversation explqin the Honda's support to Senna agains Prost at the time in Mclaren.
I really think Sir Patrick should do an autobiography. At least a technical document of the years in F1. I remember long time ago Autosport had an appendix of the FW07 - and I loved it. Read it through maybe 20 times until all the pages came off :))) I think there was later a similar about the active car, with Needell (?) giving it a go. Unfortunately Team Willy never hired me but I did get some help for my master’s thesis from Brian O’Rourke and visited Didccot a couple of times and later a couple of times in Didcot and Grove as an occasional freelance journo (=failed race car designer :)))). In the early 1980s I could have told by just seeing a part whose work it was. Bacause all these guys/organisations had their own design language. Williams always appeared to me as the ultra-pragmatic car, Barnards cars were obsessive perfection and Murray was the individual Herbert Humdinger. Forghieri had lots of cast parts - sort of 60s look in many things. I aspired a chance to work in a team - and my dream team would have been Team Willy because I liked the way it worked. It was really the sweet period when the teams turned from garagistas to expert organisations by starting to hire experts under the chief designer/tech director. I was attending a FOCA test in 1989 or 1990 as a journo, actually as a guest of Team Willy. It was the FW13 era with Boutsen. I had a chance to look at the cars very near, almost all of them. Two things stick out from my memory: I fell in love with the AGS because it was cute and obviously done with a 1/10 of the money of the second cheapest car. It had even aluminium hubs! The other thing was the quality of the Alan Jenkins designed Arrows. I think Brawn was also related to that car. Qualitywise, I think it was the best, even better than the McLaren and Williams. If I remember correctly Team Willy tried the Tyrrell type coupled front suspension with the lateral slide at that test. At that visit I also saw the Specialized Moulding wind tunnel - and being an educated aerodynamicist, frankly, it did not impress me :)))) But really, when I think of all that, I really would appreciate a book by Sir Patrick. I mean, Barnard did one, Murray did one, Forghieri did one, Southgate, Bennett and Norbert Singer did theirs. Surely, we need a book by Sir Patrick.
Great podcast. It almost doesn't do justice to cram in his career into an hour and a half. I would love it if that time was spent on just one season or one aspect, to really dig into his story. But great podcast well done!
Hi Housey - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
What a fantastic and genuine brilliant and entertaining person, Mr. Head is. Man, those amusing anecdotes, he could tell. Even the "very serious" blue shirt in the middle with his stone faced mimic was forced into being entertained. But hell, why stop such an entertaining Man like Patrick Head. Were the smug "interviewers" unhappy with not being able to ask more clever questions
I've just spent my day watching all of these interviews with the engineers, thank you for that, Ive subbed just for this alone but I'm curious if there's one subjuct that has been avoided, Sennas death? Is that because no drivers deaths have been gone into or just Sennas due to his being the last F1 crash that caused a death with the controversy involved? Other than that, which I understand, more of these would be fantastic.
Interesting....to add to the Barnard vs Murray Feud for who designed MP/4 ...now we have PAtrick VS Murray on who was the originator of the lowered Honda Engine that added to the mp4/4 Succes... well well..... there can only be one true story
I used to always think Nigel was better than most people thought but equal to Senna that was the first time I have heard that. Fascinating, Love the bit about Nigel. Alan Jones does not Nigel & made it very well known in Australia his dislike of Nigel. I don’t know why Alan never elaborated. Yes Nigel at Hockelheim through the Chicanes was the best in car I have seen.
The old school f1 of Patrick's time was the best. Absolutely flat out, wear the tyres out, get new tyres. Use all the fuel, get more fuel. Absolutely balls out flat out racing start to finish. Pure magic.
I wish Piquet could have stayed longer with Williams... I’m sure they would put up a fight with Mclarens in 1988 and onwards with Honda on board. Really a pitty.
Wow, absolutely fascinating, what a man. Such eloquent answers to the questions posed. I could have listened and listened. Particularly fascinated to hear the stories about Honda. Nice to hear about Mansell too. Like others, I am a bit disappointed this was cut "short" because Patrick was obviously willing to carry on! I would liked to have known more about why they ended up treating Damon so badly (and Nigel too), resulting in their champions not having the chance to defend their titles. He touched on it, and I think with some regret about what happened. Anyway, truly great stuff, thank you.
Oh stop it Sr Head, you guys at Williams in your time built the best car that we have ever seen, that's why it's on posters on the wall of every boy racer to this day, you shook up the world as Ali used to say. I remember the years when Williams made McLaren look second hand, and that's no easy task. Long and strong may you live Sr Patrick Head, you have paid your Dues.
Patrick and Frank, built the most Tecnicallogy advanced F1 car there ever was, but, it took some of the skills away from an F1 Driver. They mostly just had to work the pedals and turn the steering wheel. The car had to be banned and so it was. I have a lot of respect for Williams and the people who work for them and the Drivers who drove for them. Nigel is my favourite. There is no better example of his unique rapid control of an F1 car other than the one in Australia when the tyre exploded at very high speed. If he had not done what he did, there could have been a very serious accident. The back end of the car wanted to go left or right and Nigel was not going to let it. I have enjoyed the Podcasts I have watched so far and this one has to be the best so far. Martin (Thailand) A devoted Mclaren follower since a schoolboy.
No mention of the fact that in 2007, in the Italian Supreme Court he was found to be culpable of overseeing a poor quality modification to the steering column on Ayrton Senna's car.....which failed on lap 7 of the 1994 San Marino GP at Imola. Maybe one day the people who know the truth, including Mr Head, will share it with us.........
The working relationship between Alan Jones and Patrick Head was an unusually close driver/designer relationship. They both complemented each other a great deal. The sheer size of today's teams prevents that sort of relationship happening again. Everyone in the sport in 1981 said the same thing when Jones announced his retirement from F1.... he was retiring way too soon. But he'd had a gut full of the FIA politics apparently.
Jones is indeed underrated. One of the best overtakers of the 80s. Sharp and precise in his setup communication with Head. Probably the reason behind his admiration.
Carlos Reutemann, may he rest in peace, would not agree with you at all. You never give someone who is about to win a championship a car with the worst chassis, an untested set of brakes and a destroyed gearbox in the last race. You give him the best car to secure the victory, but that best car was given to Jones who was fighting nothing. PS: Do you still think that Lole lost the 1981 championship due to a state of mind?
I honestly thought that Patrick should stick to engineering. His comments about Derek Daly's perspiration showed, IMHO, a lack of understanding of the variability in human physiology. The fact that one driver perspires more than another doesn't mean that he's tense.
Great interview Mr Head. Only that when answering the question as to why the Williams team isn't doing as well as it used to you, conveniently forgot to give the real reason, which is that you and Frank caused Adrian Newy to leave. Adrian mentions this in his book, in which he describes both Patrick and Frank as being 'creatures of habit'. As well as the issue being covered in other RUclips videos. You and Frank did things and made decisions behind his back. You told him that you would never do it again, but did. Williams went down hill immediately after Adrian Newy left and simultaneously McLaren dominated, then later Redbull dominated after Adrian went to work there. Williams never recovered after they lost Adrian. Frank Williams admitted years later that they should have allowed Adrian access to big decision making and given him stock in the company. Patrick Head would be more of a man if he would just admit openly to this huge mistake. We all make mistakes but not everyone can admit to them.
History shows of course the 1987 decision to not take on Nakajima in 1988 was the wrong decision. For 1988 McLaren had the low profile engine, they won 15 out of 16 races, and Williams had a terrible season with the Judd engine. Sure, they kept Nigel Mansell, but Nelson Piquet left the team for Lotus in 1988 and it's very clear Team Williams erred in their negotiations.
Ivan julian.wrong,mansell and piquet were both still under contract to williams for 1987 so there was no chance of nakajima coming to williams. Honda decided to switch to lotus for 87 as they were unhappy with the failure to secure the drivers championship in 1986.Piquet going to lotus for 88,meant honda had the current world champion running for them still,honda financed the replacement judd engines for 1988 due to them ending the williams partnership early.
Patrick, what happened in Vegas 1981? Why did you guys give Reutemann a wrecked cart to fight the last race of the championship? Patrick, why did you give the best car to Jones who didn't fight at all? Patrick, what happened when you guys opened up the gearbox and found that a couple of the gears were broken and out of oil? I remember that you said that there was no problem, but there were people who saw it and said so. Patrick, Patrick, Patrick... why did F. Williams change tires (from Michelin to Good Year) in the middle of the championship when with Michelin Reutemann he had scored many points and with Good Year only 12? Patrick, do you still believe that we Argentines and many others in the world believe that Lole lost the championship due to a state of mind? Lole Reutemann had already told a journalist that he was not going to win the championship, but he always kept the truth to himself... but the truth always comes out. YOU SABOTAGED HIS CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE LOLE DID NOT LET JONES PASS, THAT DAMN MEDIOCRE, WHICH THE WORD CHAMPION FITS VERY BIG. PS 1: You can fight against a great rival. You can fight against your teammate... but you will never be able to against your own team because in the end, your team will screw up the championship, how, when and wherever they want to do it. PS 2: I hope you guys don't delete my comment.
The man is a genius. Period. But you can tell he will always try to make yo think Alan Jones and Nigel Mansell were top top drivers when reality dictates neither both of them are among the best Top Ten Formula One drivers of all times. I can see clearly now why he likes so much Jones and Mansell but truth is when Patrick says "I'd put Nigel right in there with Prost and Senna - same level." he is actually overestimating Mansell in such way.....I mean we're talking about Senna and Prost both of them among the best five racing drivers of all times without a single doubt and quite arguably among the best three best drivers of all times with Fangio. To put Nigel Mansell at that level means you have blinded thoughts on the matter in this case bacause Mansell is the driver with more wins at Williams hence Patrick Head is trying to make you think Mansell was one of the best racing drivers of all times which, I'm sorry, is not the case. And quite clearly Nelson Piquet was way better than Mansell and you can tell Piquet was right when he always said the team (Patrick Head) was always behind Mansell. Frank Dernie is telling the true when he says Nelson was faster than Mansell on a regular bases at least before Nelson's accident at San Marino 1987. Nelson recover from that and was always faster than Mansell in many circuits including British circuits. Nelson always outqualified Mansell at Silverstone and Brands Hatch when they were teammates. With the team behind Nelson they'd have won the 1986 drivers championship without a single doubt. Nelson was smart enough to win the 1987 drivers championship anyway despite not being consider number one driver at any point of his time in the Williams team. Nelson Piquet was a genius and Nigel Mansell could be really fast if he was inspired. But let me remind all of you even Riccardo Patrese outqualified Mansell in 1991. 10 to 6 in the whole 16 races that year including the first seven races in-a-row and with 4 poles by Patrese against just 2 poles for Mansell throughout that year. So yes, Mansell was really fast but....not always the fastest driver. He was quite spectacular on sundays like Gilles was back in the day but Mansell, like Gilles, used to make lots of mistakes from time to time and never knew to use his head in the race. Mansell was always thinking with his right foot instead thinking with his head. Mansell drove the best car of the season in five differents years: 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991 and 1992. He only won one championship with that super tech Williams FW14B and Mansell got Williams Team preference all those years but 1990 when Alain Prost was clearly the best racing driver of the Ferrari team and that's why the team was behind Prost. And when he chooses Alain Jones as his favorite driver you can see why Carlos Reutemann didn't make it in 1981. Jones was the happiest man in the world at the end of the race at Las Vegas. It was the payback Alan Jones was demanding and Jones was able to make it thanks to Patrick Head. Reutemann couldn't race that saturday at Las Vegas with the car on wich he made pole position because of an accident during friday qualy with Nelson Piquet's Brabham. So Reutemann lost that great car and had to use the spare car which was another chasis. The main problem was the gearbox. Reutemann told Patrick Head the gearbox was damage. Head went to Reutemann and said: "Gearbox is ok. We checked the gearbox and it's ok". Truth is Reutemann missed almost 4 or 5 gears per lap during the race. It was a miracle Reutemann didn't brake the gearbox and was able to ended up on P8 that race on lap behind Jones. That week after the race Patrick Head phoned Reutemann to tell Carlos they went to the factory looked the gearbox and found it was damaged just like Carlos told Head BEFORE the race. It was a bad joke by Head phoning Reutemann to tell what Carlos already knew even that saturday morning before the race started (they didn't race on sunday at Las Vegas. Instead they raced on saturday and first qualy was thursday when Reutemann made pole position and second qualy was on a hot friday when Carlos had an accident with Nelson Piquet and nobody couldn't be able to improve the times of thursday).
It sounds like Patrick was comparing just the driving skill inside the car, not the complete package of developing the car or motivating the engineers or fitness levels. If they ran both Mansell and Prost in 1993 with the active cars. I think Nigel would have beaten Prost on pure skill because Prost knowledge advantage of setting up passive car did not apply to active suspension car.
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Always admired Patrick Head for not only his brilliant technical achievements in Motorsport but also his honest and modest attitude and always giving credit to others on the technical team who worked on the concepts. Bloody brilliant interview, also liked the word association.
Patrick is an absolute legend of F1, it’s great listening to him and he looks well too.
20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM.
I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Absolute gold dust. PH is a legend and I'm amazed that no serious motor racing writer has got a biography or 'ghost written' auto biography out of him. The stories he has to tell...............
I wish there were more people around like Patrick Head. The pod cast could have been extended by 4 hours , I'd watch the lot.....
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@@gethinchislett9926 Worst part of the podcast is old mate saying "We're out of time". I don't care who you are, you're not out of time until Patrick is done talking.
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20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM.
I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Great interview. Nice to see him put Nigel in the same bracket as Senna and Prost. I think a lot of people just thought he was brave but lacked a God given gift in terms of natural ability. I think this puts the record straight. He should know.
Great insight on Nigel Mansell and how good he was
Mansell was the chimp, Piquet whas the champ
Super podcast. We were so lucky to have F1 in our lives back then. A golden era now gone forever
Patrick has so many stories, he can’t hold himself. So nice to hear all this. Bring him back!
20.12.21. UKMOTOR SPORT MAGAZINE RE P HEAD ENGINEER WILLIAM's F1 Grove OXON QUEENS AWARD.. NOT QUITE THE WHOLE STORY.MR HEAD. SWORN STATEMENTS OF FACT TRUTH REALITY. NO NOT OPINION .FIRSTLY THE BACKGROUND.SECO NDLY MR HEAD AND HIS ASSSOCIATIONS.THE SPORT ART DRAMA SCAM.
I was one of the kids that polished the scaffold poles at S-stone with my elbows. Later became involved with Art BBC Cent London Theatre etc.. Then two things happened, one was victims approached us re the abuse they were experiencing perpetrated by Police. Health. Local Press. Local govt and so on. The other happening was meeting three people who were or are psychic. We took on board the victims causes and though we doubted bits of their stories we thought we would find out for ourselves. they proved to be more than correct. We spent 12 yrs knocking on doors and the responses we elicited included denials of responsibility and violent threats from Police. death threats from HM Courts. Threats of violence from Us Embassy re the dangerous US Security firms employed by UK Govt. We were also rescuing patients of the horrific and dangerous private and NHS Mental Health and Charity Systems. We were told not to continue because the remedial work was taking earnings out of the system We refused to stop and experienced more Police attacks.. By about the 4th year ewe had discovered crrptn in the following org's- BBC. Local and National Media. Local Govt. HM-- Courts. CPS. Bar Council. Prisons. Coroners. House Commons and Lords. Princes Trust. Police and Home Office. Dept Health. Justice Ministry. 10 Universities.100s Charities. Lottery Board (Camelot) Lufthansa. Psychological Society. HM Lieutenants. 10 Hospitals. Dept Education. Liberal. Labour. Cons Party's. Every Law firm We investigated.EEC Brussrels.The full story is a 1000pp and the BBC advised 'Hiding it Abroad'. The indictment ? 'Establishment Manslaughter' 30 000 Deaths Over 35 yrs. Mr Head ? He has been given a Royal award for his involvement with a sport which kills people and squanders billions of pounds. The award given by the very people who head the very org's who attempted to suppress truth and us but failed. So he gets an award and we experience Police and other violence eh. We sit here in poverty having been tricked re a property by two teachers. We can get no health or other help. Recently we have had more Police visits. they are telling us that a Religion sent them to tell us we must not allow the public to see the evidence. They said the evidence is worthless. They wiped the food off the lap of the fastest Mh Clinician in Europe and told him if he picked up the food from the grass they would arrest us. How do the 'Psychics' feature in all this? They warned us well before we started doing investigating as follows- 'Fit stronger Locks on doors And windows' No the advisors did not know anything about our activities and the advice was given within an area many miles drom where ewe live. No they did not have our address, Tel number or car registration. Yes th Police tried to gain access. EEC statement - 'Nothing Can Be done About Corruption. The Deaths. Police Attacks..Funny how Mr Head failed to notice what gores on in UK but worst of all neither he nor the 1000s of people working at Williams Eng Grtore Oxon seemed to have noticed it either. our list includes Oxon County and Rural;l Dist Councils. Cameron and Lord Chadlington at the Witney Constituency Office. Witney Press. OXOn NHs 'Research'. Thames Valley Police HQ Chief Const and Commissioner etc (involved with Princes Trust) F1 No thanks. By the way seven people a couple of miles away from here get funded. For 'Watching Movies'. Well done Mr Head but we are not fooled. A lot of our evidence was gathered right outside Motor Sport Magazines offices. We suggest 'Specsavers' or something. How about you ? No we are not journalist cos we were told by UK Press System this- 'Nothing That you Have Discovered Can Ever appear In Print' Brrrmmm,. Brrrrmmmme distribution Oxon and the National Motor Sport Scene' We don't mind a bit of fun but covering up avoid deaths and squandering of billions we strongly object to. Got to go BBC News is on followed by Strictly Dancing then a violent film on UTube that 2.5 million people subscribe to. Meanwhile all out Web sites have been destroyed and all mail on face book likewise. Thank God for our dear Queen. She sat in a huge house whilst we traipsed up asnd down finding crrptn every quarter mile.
Absolutely brilliant. I thoroughly enjoyed that and I could have listened and listened. Such eloquent answers to the questions posed. Especially fascinated to hear about the Honda period and also learning more about Nigel Mansell.
I'd love to have learnt more about why Damon was treated so badly (and Nigel too), these guys had such success with the team yet they weren't able to defend the championships they had won. I think Patrick touched on it and you could sense some regret. Hope to hear more on that for the next installments, as you definitely need to get Patrick back as he was obviously willing to talk for even longer.
Thanks again for this 👍
Who downvotes this???
My first one of the series and what an absolute joy. Well done @MotorSport!
Amazing chat. Thanks so much!!!
So many people would kill to have a person the calibre of Patrick Head be willing to talk non stop about things that we may never have the opportunity again to discover, and you cut it off! If he was willing and kind enough to give of his time couldn’t you have at least done this in instalments?
Hi Teddy Bear - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
Ed Foster. Thank you for your courteous reply, I look forward to that happening as I’m sure many others will.
Yer I felt it rude to cut him off
I could listen to Patrick for at least another six hours. Fascinating.
If that went for the rest of the day - I would have kept listening. What a story teller.. brilliant
My favourite interview yet on the channel, very interesting.
One of the best interviews I've seen with Patrick Head, thank you.
I love this... to hear what they thought of their cars, drivers, engineers..projects and processes.. I'm glad you just let him talk and talk. it was great.
PLEASE write that autobiography Sir Patrick! You're one of the foremost F1 heroes, from what is now recognised more and more as one of the golden ages of F1. What an incredible memory! So ludicrously sharp. I can barely believe the amount of detail you're able to recall seemingly as if it were yesterday. Williams have always been my favourite team, born from the personalities of Sir Frank and Sir Patrick and from growing up watching Nigel throw his William's around the tracks like a man possessed. That was such an enjoyable interview, it could have gone on and one 3 or 4 times the length and would not have become boring. I always thought Sir Patrick was this no nonsense gruff character but it turns out he is an amazingly considered, calm, insightful charming man. Thanks Motorsport for letting him talk. The questions were just prompts to get him talking in such wonderful detail. Brilliant.
Agree totally. There are any number of interviews with Adrian Newey, but that is for 2 reasons- his impressive talent as an aerodynamicist, and because he is the recent darling of F1. I could listen to Sir Patrick, and others of his era, for hours, just for the insights into the intricacies of competing at that level, and being forced to innovate in the ways that they did, as opposed to the stale, over-regulated environment of today.
what a truly fascinating interview
First few minutes absolutely fascinating. Jonesy , Patrick & Frank are great friends. When Alan commented for TV in Australia, he commented that he had talked to Patrick that day. Alan is a fascinating guy. The whole interview a masterpiece.
What a brilliant podcast , Patrick is just fantastic
Was lucky enough to Work for Williams when Patrick was there, great personality and engineer.
This series is unbelievably interesting - thanks a lot. This is the sort of depth that was desperately needed.
Brilliant stuff. Thanks
Solid gold. Fascinating insight into this man. I wish I could view some of the memories he has.
@24:34 Patrick Head: "I'd put Nigel right in there with Prost and Senna - same level." What a compliment.
Patrick is definitely a long time admirer of Nigel. But Nigel is nowhere near Senna or Prost
Fantastic insight into a great era .
Excellent stuff, I need more though. He needs to write that autobiography. Hopefully in multiple volumes with audio book to follow. DO IT NOW!
Don’t have a time limit
And just post in series
It came across as if your time is worth more than one of the best motorsport engineers ever.
Please guys do a part 2 you have to.
I have watched Patrick’s career with enormous interest. First met him many years ago when BUMC were doing small night rallies, even spent a night marshalling with him in his red Hillman Imp with no windows because he’d rolled it. Years later was driving from Huntingdon to Gamlingay one Friday evening in my red Lotus Elan and had a great dice with a dark red Alfa. Wondered at the time if it was Patrick, like to think it was.
I've always admired PH for his engineering prowess. Safe to say there WGPE wouldn't have had much success without him. He was a hard task master but was respected by most drivers.
Get Patrick back and just say the question is just talk, you have 6 hours.
Absolutely agree, get him back and continue on from 1987
I’d listen to every word
I'm so irritated , the greatest F1 team of all time and you shut it off at 1986 .....WTF
I could listen forever
Wt heck , let him run . This could have been the greatest episode ever and you cut him short ? If cannot afford to run a digital camera perhaps you should call it a day find another line of work . Wow what a disaster !
Hi McClarenF161862 - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
joe rogans podcast , some videos are like 3+hours. These legendary figures shouldn’t be squeezed into such a tight time frame. We would all love to hear them go into details for at least 2 hours. Or have them come on like 6 times and just keep picking up where you left off. But even though the videos leave a lot to be desired because of how short they are. They are amazing.
@@edfoster1447 @Jack Tanner . Let Joe Rogan be the model , If not Joe then the $100 million Spotify money . Ed I enjoy your podcasts ..
As Williams fan,i love this man
Would absolutely watch a series where an interviewee talks about specific time periods or teams at length per episode
Nigel in the same bracket as Senna and Prost! Comedy for free, ladies and gentlemen!
It sounds like Patrick was comparing just the driving skill inside the car, not the complete package of developing the car or motivating the engineers or fitness levels. If they ran both Mansell and Prost in 1993 with the active cars. I think Nigel would have beaten Prost on pure skill because Prost knowledge advantage of setting up passive car did not apply to active suspension car.
Nelson Piquet the greatest F1 driver of all time. Had to fight the entire Williams team including Head to win the World Championship and also won two other championships with a worse car than Renault, the Heads Williams, McLaren and Ferrari. Never done before, he did it twice.
Head just hates Piquet, its incredible, just as all the British media ...
What did Head had to do with Piquet´s crash at Imola ´87? ... because we know what the responsability he had with Senna....
Greetings from Argentina
Bizarre and weird childishness.
Greeting from Argentina? You sound like you're living in another universe.
Fantastic interview ✅✅✅
Just a reminder: The Italian Court of Appeal, on 13 April 2007, stated the following in the verdict numbered 15050: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control." Even being found responsible for Senna's accident, Head was not arrested because in Italy, the statute of limitation for manslaughter is 7 years and 6 months, and the final verdict was pronounced 13 years after the accident
Everyone knows that was just a box ticking exercise from the Italian authorities knowing it was meaningless. Williams were the pinnacle of engineering and to even suggest that the steering column broke before impact is ridiculous. Senna drove too fast for the conditions and lost downforce (ride height/racing line) in a nervous car and had very, very bad luck. Several top line drivers crashed there and got away with it, but sadly Senna did not. Michael had the mental edge on Senna that season and I still think would have won had Senna lived.
Fun fact, at 1:03:00 when he talks about one guy designing the engine alone after work... The 2003ish Yamaha 250f four stroke motocross engine was done in the exact same way... Engineer doing it alone as a pet project.
I've always liked Patrick Head and this podcast only goes to show why. I'm getting old. My favourite F1 time was when Nigel was racing a Williams' car.
Good audio IS appreciated.
wonderful, that 90 minutes flew by
I know I am an absolute amateur/enthusiast but it doesn’t prevent me from having an opinion. For me Patrick Head is the embodiment of what was great about Williams and why they rose to such dominance, at the same time I feel that his ways also is telling to as why they have declined in the later years.
When I hear about Williams in their forming years it seems like their rapid rise was because they had attracted brilliant and young persons like Dernie and Head. The entire operation was very frugal and efficient in regard to spending money every penny was used to improve car performance. In the interview the story of how they got their first wind tunnel with rolling road is told for almost nothing and the adapted to their usage almost like a diy project. This concept of using the money where they bring the biggest gains is wonderful if money supply is is limited. In the 1980’s and 1990’s this was the case. In the new millennium formula one budgets exploded and the Patrick Heads frugality formula turned against them, because when you have an open budget you can use fantasilions of pounds on some minor component change which only makes small improvements on the car. With the budgets in formula 1 in the last 20 years frugality has been out. Only performance at no cost mattered. Maybe the coming budget cap, in formula one, could make the old winning Head/Williams formula winning again. It will take some time because more sponsors will have to be found. Difficult in these days but probably possible. I wish Head and the Williams team all the best.
Such aan interestic conversation and Sir Head is a nice guy but that conversation explqin the Honda's support to Senna agains Prost at the time in Mclaren.
I really think Sir Patrick should do an autobiography. At least a technical document of the years in F1. I remember long time ago Autosport had an appendix of the FW07 - and I loved it. Read it through maybe 20 times until all the pages came off :))) I think there was later a similar about the active car, with Needell (?) giving it a go.
Unfortunately Team Willy never hired me but I did get some help for my master’s thesis from Brian O’Rourke and visited Didccot a couple of times and later a couple of times in Didcot and Grove as an occasional freelance journo (=failed race car designer :)))).
In the early 1980s I could have told by just seeing a part whose work it was. Bacause all these guys/organisations had their own design language. Williams always appeared to me as the ultra-pragmatic car, Barnards cars were obsessive perfection and Murray was the individual Herbert Humdinger. Forghieri had lots of cast parts - sort of 60s look in many things. I aspired a chance to work in a team - and my dream team would have been Team Willy because I liked the way it worked. It was really the sweet period when the teams turned from garagistas to expert organisations by starting to hire experts under the chief designer/tech director.
I was attending a FOCA test in 1989 or 1990 as a journo, actually as a guest of Team Willy. It was the FW13 era with Boutsen. I had a chance to look at the cars very near, almost all of them. Two things stick out from my memory: I fell in love with the AGS because it was cute and obviously done with a 1/10 of the money of the second cheapest car. It had even aluminium hubs! The other thing was the quality of the Alan Jenkins designed Arrows. I think Brawn was also related to that car. Qualitywise, I think it was the best, even better than the McLaren and Williams. If I remember correctly Team Willy tried the Tyrrell type coupled front suspension with the lateral slide at that test.
At that visit I also saw the Specialized Moulding wind tunnel - and being an educated aerodynamicist, frankly, it did not impress me :))))
But really, when I think of all that, I really would appreciate a book by Sir Patrick. I mean, Barnard did one, Murray did one, Forghieri did one, Southgate, Bennett and Norbert Singer did theirs. Surely, we need a book by Sir Patrick.
Nice. The kind of comment a man can appreciate. 👍
Great podcast. It almost doesn't do justice to cram in his career into an hour and a half. I would love it if that time was spent on just one season or one aspect, to really dig into his story. But great podcast well done!
Fascinating !!!
Simplemente espectacular podcast !
Your focus on 1 hour and in this case 1 hour 29 is crazy! Let it run ffs
Hi Housey - we will get him back for another one. While he was obviously happy to keep talking, he did need to get on and do other things - he hadn't realised the time! I hate cutting people off, and that's why it ran for 50% longer than normal. We'll get him back, panic not!
@@edfoster1447 Nice one Ed and keep up the good work. Subscribed for generations to Motorsport.
You need to bag Ron Dennis for an interview 👍
You’re joking right??
What a fantastic and genuine brilliant and entertaining person, Mr. Head is. Man, those amusing anecdotes, he could tell. Even the "very serious" blue shirt in the middle with his stone faced mimic was forced into being entertained. But hell, why stop such an entertaining Man like Patrick Head. Were the smug "interviewers" unhappy with not being able to ask more clever questions
superbe idea for a podcast, you got my sub and a TU...
Whats missing in many areas of sport and life. Great direction and leadership. Really good interview.
I've just spent my day watching all of these interviews with the engineers, thank you for that, Ive subbed just for this alone but I'm curious if there's one subjuct that has been avoided, Sennas death? Is that because no drivers deaths have been gone into or just Sennas due to his being the last F1 crash that caused a death with the controversy involved?
Other than that, which I understand, more of these would be fantastic.
As much as Williams F1 is Frank's team, I think the success of it belongs to Patrick head ,
Nice to hear nice things said about "Il Lione"
"No Great Shakes." Great title in my opinion.
Interesting....to add to the Barnard vs Murray Feud for who designed MP/4 ...now we have PAtrick VS Murray on who was the originator of the lowered Honda Engine
that added to the mp4/4 Succes... well well..... there can only be one true story
What a brilliant mind. Man is a ledgend
Great interview, but it seemed like he skimmed over Frentzens time at Williams
Thanks for this more than rare treat. Meanwhile You guys ought to get some lapel mics.
I used to always think Nigel was better than most people thought but equal to Senna that was the first time I have heard that. Fascinating, Love the bit about Nigel. Alan Jones does not Nigel & made it very well known in Australia his dislike of Nigel. I don’t know why Alan never elaborated. Yes Nigel at Hockelheim through the Chicanes was the best in car I have seen.
Like many talented and driven people, Patrick was compelled to overcome deficiencies. Inspiring to me.
The old school f1 of Patrick's time was the best. Absolutely flat out, wear the tyres out, get new tyres. Use all the fuel, get more fuel. Absolutely balls out flat out racing start to finish. Pure magic.
I wish Piquet could have stayed longer with Williams... I’m sure they would put up a fight with Mclarens in 1988 and onwards with Honda on board. Really a pitty.
Guaranteed Head cost Piquet 86 88 89 Title.. Mclaren Honda would not have happened had Honda not lost 86 title.. They were Pro Piquet
Wow, absolutely fascinating, what a man. Such eloquent answers to the questions posed. I could have listened and listened. Particularly fascinated to hear the stories about Honda. Nice to hear about Mansell too. Like others, I am a bit disappointed this was cut "short" because Patrick was obviously willing to carry on!
I would liked to have known more about why they ended up treating Damon so badly (and Nigel too), resulting in their champions not having the chance to defend their titles. He touched on it, and I think with some regret about what happened.
Anyway, truly great stuff, thank you.
Oh stop it Sr Head, you guys at Williams in your time built the best car that
we have ever seen, that's why it's on posters on the wall of every boy racer
to this day, you shook up the world as Ali used to say. I remember the years
when Williams made McLaren look second hand, and that's no easy task.
Long and strong may you live Sr Patrick Head, you have paid your Dues.
Brilliant talk. Brilliant
Patrick and Frank, built the most Tecnicallogy advanced F1 car there ever was, but, it took some of the skills away from an F1 Driver. They mostly just had to work the pedals and turn the steering wheel. The car had to be banned and so it was. I have a lot of respect for Williams and the people who work for them and the Drivers who drove for them. Nigel is my favourite. There is no better example of his unique rapid control of an F1 car other than the one in Australia when the tyre exploded at very high speed. If he had not done what he did, there could have been a very serious accident. The back end of the car wanted to go left or right and Nigel was not going to let it. I have enjoyed the Podcasts I have watched so far and this one has to be the best so far. Martin (Thailand)
A devoted Mclaren follower since a schoolboy.
Fantastic video - really enjoyed it. What an interesting guy.
No mention of the fact that in 2007, in the Italian Supreme Court he was found to be culpable of overseeing a poor quality modification to the steering column on Ayrton Senna's car.....which failed on lap 7 of the 1994 San Marino GP at Imola. Maybe one day the people who know the truth, including Mr Head, will share it with us.........
He very well could be under a gag order about it and told the interviewers as much.
He's also the one who got Senna killed had the steering column not been welded. who welds a broken steering column?
Alan Jones was so underrated.
Have to say that Frank did handle his drivers well. Rotating door.
The working relationship between Alan Jones and Patrick Head was an unusually close driver/designer relationship. They both complemented each other a great deal. The sheer size of today's teams prevents that sort of relationship happening again. Everyone in the sport in 1981 said the same thing when Jones announced his retirement from F1.... he was retiring way too soon. But he'd had a gut full of the FIA politics apparently.
Jones is indeed underrated. One of the best overtakers of the 80s.
Sharp and precise in his setup communication with Head. Probably the reason behind his admiration.
AJ would have won many titles had he not retired early.
Carlos Reutemann, may he rest in peace, would not agree with you at all. You never give someone who is about to win a championship a car with the worst chassis, an untested set of brakes and a destroyed gearbox in the last race. You give him the best car to secure the victory, but that best car was given to Jones who was fighting nothing.
PS: Do you still think that Lole lost the 1981 championship due to a state of mind?
@@ivanjulian2532 Head and Jones looked like identical twins to me.
Excellent!
So how did you get involved in motorsport
PH: Well, it all started when I was a boy with a Meccano set
I honestly thought that Patrick should stick to engineering. His comments about Derek Daly's perspiration showed, IMHO, a lack of understanding of the variability in human physiology. The fact that one driver perspires more than another doesn't mean that he's tense.
Danke Patrick - auch für mich war Nigel immer genauso gut wie Senna und Prost.
Patrick Head is the missing link at Williams today.
ONE OF THE GREATEST SIR PATRICK HEAD
MADE THE PERSON I LOOK UP TO ROSS BRAWN
OTHERS MANY DERNIE/ADRIAN NEWEY
Fascinating and a great interview. But honestly, what’s the point of the chap in the middle? He might as well be some kind of competition winner
Great interview! I’m not really an F1 fan, but found this very intriguing. Plan to subscribe.
Why noone asks about Senna crash? Poor journalism
Too much to cover and ran out of time. This could have been a 3hr+ long form interview.
I'm not convinced Senna was ever "close" with frank williams
In fairness, Senna's first ever drive in an F1 car was in a Williams in 1983.
for a moment i thought you had ronnie barker in the chair!
adrian newey and patrick head i can listen to for hours.
Great interview Mr Head. Only that when answering the question as to why the Williams team isn't doing as well as it used to you, conveniently forgot to give the real reason, which is that you and Frank caused Adrian Newy to leave. Adrian mentions this in his book, in which he describes both Patrick and Frank as being 'creatures of habit'. As well as the issue being covered in other RUclips videos. You and Frank did things and made decisions behind his back. You told him that you would never do it again, but did. Williams went down hill immediately after Adrian Newy left and simultaneously McLaren dominated, then later Redbull dominated after Adrian went to work there. Williams never recovered after they lost Adrian. Frank Williams admitted years later that they should have allowed Adrian access to big decision making and given him stock in the company. Patrick Head would be more of a man if he would just admit openly to this huge mistake. We all make mistakes but not everyone can admit to them.
History shows of course the 1987 decision to not take on Nakajima in 1988 was the wrong decision. For 1988 McLaren had the low profile engine, they won 15 out of 16 races, and Williams had a terrible season with the Judd engine. Sure, they kept Nigel Mansell, but Nelson Piquet left the team for Lotus in 1988 and it's very clear Team Williams erred in their negotiations.
They did good decision. Gain 1 year advantage on the new engines. I remember auto'sprint in Italy said it too
Ivan julian.wrong,mansell and piquet were both still under contract to williams for 1987 so there was no chance of nakajima coming to williams.
Honda decided to switch to lotus for 87 as they were unhappy with the failure to secure the drivers championship in 1986.Piquet going to lotus for 88,meant honda had the current world champion running for them still,honda financed the replacement judd engines for 1988 due to them ending the williams partnership early.
Este tarado es el que estaba encargado del auto de Ayrton Senna. Tendría que estar preso!!!!
Patrick, what happened in Vegas 1981? Why did you guys give Reutemann a wrecked cart to fight the last race of the championship?
Patrick, why did you give the best car to Jones who didn't fight at all?
Patrick, what happened when you guys opened up the gearbox and found that a couple of the gears were broken and out of oil? I remember that you said that there was no problem, but there were people who saw it and said so.
Patrick, Patrick, Patrick... why did F. Williams change tires (from Michelin to Good Year) in the middle of the championship when with Michelin
Reutemann he had scored many points and with Good Year only 12?
Patrick, do you still believe that we Argentines and many others in the world believe that Lole lost the championship due to a state of mind?
Lole Reutemann had already told a journalist that he was not going to win the championship, but he always kept the truth to himself... but the truth always comes out.
YOU SABOTAGED HIS CHAMPIONSHIP BECAUSE LOLE DID NOT LET JONES PASS, THAT DAMN MEDIOCRE, WHICH THE WORD CHAMPION FITS VERY BIG.
PS 1: You can fight against a great rival. You can fight against your teammate... but you will never be able to against your own team because in the end, your team will screw up the championship, how, when and wherever they want to do it.
PS 2: I hope you guys don't delete my comment.
Surely what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas?
Remember Patrick...
Reutemann
Jones
One day i wanna be a Sir too.Hmm what i have to do to obtain it?
The man is a genius. Period. But you can tell he will always try to make yo think Alan Jones and Nigel Mansell were top top drivers when reality dictates neither both of them are among the best Top Ten Formula One drivers of all times. I can see clearly now why he likes so much Jones and Mansell but truth is when Patrick says "I'd put Nigel right in there with Prost and Senna - same level." he is actually overestimating Mansell in such way.....I mean we're talking about Senna and Prost both of them among the best five racing drivers of all times without a single doubt and quite arguably among the best three best drivers of all times with Fangio. To put Nigel Mansell at that level means you have blinded thoughts on the matter in this case bacause Mansell is the driver with more wins at Williams hence Patrick Head is trying to make you think Mansell was one of the best racing drivers of all times which, I'm sorry, is not the case. And quite clearly Nelson Piquet was way better than Mansell and you can tell Piquet was right when he always said the team (Patrick Head) was always behind Mansell. Frank Dernie is telling the true when he says Nelson was faster than Mansell on a regular bases at least before Nelson's accident at San Marino 1987. Nelson recover from that and was always faster than Mansell in many circuits including British circuits. Nelson always outqualified Mansell at Silverstone and Brands Hatch when they were teammates. With the team behind Nelson they'd have won the 1986 drivers championship without a single doubt. Nelson was smart enough to win the 1987 drivers championship anyway despite not being consider number one driver at any point of his time in the Williams team. Nelson Piquet was a genius and Nigel Mansell could be really fast if he was inspired. But let me remind all of you even Riccardo Patrese outqualified Mansell in 1991. 10 to 6 in the whole 16 races that year including the first seven races in-a-row and with 4 poles by Patrese against just 2 poles for Mansell throughout that year. So yes, Mansell was really fast but....not always the fastest driver. He was quite spectacular on sundays like Gilles was back in the day but Mansell, like Gilles, used to make lots of mistakes from time to time and never knew to use his head in the race. Mansell was always thinking with his right foot instead thinking with his head. Mansell drove the best car of the season in five differents years: 1986, 1987, 1990, 1991 and 1992. He only won one championship with that super tech Williams FW14B and Mansell got Williams Team preference all those years but 1990 when Alain Prost was clearly the best racing driver of the Ferrari team and that's why the team was behind Prost. And when he chooses Alain Jones as his favorite driver you can see why Carlos Reutemann didn't make it in 1981. Jones was the happiest man in the world at the end of the race at Las Vegas. It was the payback Alan Jones was demanding and Jones was able to make it thanks to Patrick Head. Reutemann couldn't race that saturday at Las Vegas with the car on wich he made pole position because of an accident during friday qualy with Nelson Piquet's Brabham. So Reutemann lost that great car and had to use the spare car which was another chasis. The main problem was the gearbox. Reutemann told Patrick Head the gearbox was damage. Head went to Reutemann and said: "Gearbox is ok. We checked the gearbox and it's ok". Truth is Reutemann missed almost 4 or 5 gears per lap during the race. It was a miracle Reutemann didn't brake the gearbox and was able to ended up on P8 that race on lap behind Jones. That week after the race Patrick Head phoned Reutemann to tell Carlos they went to the factory looked the gearbox and found it was damaged just like Carlos told Head BEFORE the race. It was a bad joke by Head phoning Reutemann to tell what Carlos already knew even that saturday morning before the race started (they didn't race on sunday at Las Vegas. Instead they raced on saturday and first qualy was thursday when Reutemann made pole position and second qualy was on a hot friday when Carlos had an accident with Nelson Piquet and nobody couldn't be able to improve the times of thursday).
It sounds like Patrick was comparing just the driving skill inside the car, not the complete package of developing the car or motivating the engineers or fitness levels. If they ran both Mansell and Prost in 1993 with the active cars. I think Nigel would have beaten Prost on pure skill because Prost knowledge advantage of setting up passive car did not apply to active suspension car.
Frank Dernie is the real genius at Williams
This guy caused Senna's death
The regulations at the time are more to blame.
i heat patric head,ele é o culpado pela morte de aryton senna, como engenheiro da williams autorizou aquele remendo vagabundo na coluna de direção da williams dele
A brilliant man.