Yep, I'm from Lithuania and I can assure that we want nothing to do with Moscovites. It is known that the Baltics were under soviet occupation, what is less known that there was a genocide towards the Baltics - killings, mass deportations to siberia to die less rapidly than kill. Hence the small population.
Latvia chiming in. You're absolutely correct - basically every Latvian family know and have a story that is still told today about a closer or further relative that was deported, starved and died or if lucky made it back. Many also have relatives that KGB jailed or killed. So yes, we will never forget or change our opinion about the murdering occupying neighbor.
We're slowly soaking in this information now that our press and politicians aren't whitewashing Soviet atrocities to promote peace that isn't happening. It's not widely common knowledge, but the information is readily available and we're learning how horribly the Muscovites have treated, and continue to treat, all the non-Muscovites both in the former USSR and in modern Russia.
@@benediktas200 In the middle of Vilnius is the building where the KBG had its headquarters where they tortured people and in the basement killed over seventy prisoners. (The building is a museum now).
@@siamanspaps russians LOVE saying that "if it weren't for [russians], half of Europe would be speaking German language." Implying saving Europe from genocide. Well, now half of Europe speaks russian language. russians are bigger genocidal imperialists than the nazis.
Given their history, it is totally unsurprising that the 3 Baltic states couldn't join the EU and get under the NATO security umbrella fast enough, when the Soviet Union collapsed. They'll never again be part of the Russian Empire, that window to the West is firmly and permanently closed for Moscow.
Moscow doesn't want anything Western as look at BRICS look at the major players in the world, as we have been fooled again as we the West are 13% of the world and Russia through BRICS and other groups represent the other 87% of the world. Russia is in a far better off position now than we are, so we need the war to get rid of our Debt and save our sorry arses?
they're NOT abandoning ruzzia, they abandoned it decades ago. the baltics are more european that some eastern europe countries (cough cough, hungary), if you ask me.
I'd like to add that not welcoming Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia into NATO and the EU was never really an option. At least from a German perspective. The cultural exchange across the Baltic Sea goes as far back as therehave been humans living in the region. And since the formation of the Hanseatic League in the middle ages as well as the Teutonic Crusades the cultural ties to Germany in particular have been fraught and bloody but deep and lasting. Religiously, Lithuania was Catholic, Latvia and Estonia Protestant. Linguistically Lithuanian and Latvian are baltic languages only distantly related to slavic languages and Estonian is a finno-ugric langauge related to Finnish and Hungarian and not at all a part of the Indo-European language family. The region has only relatively recently come under the control of the various Russian Empires (during the expansions under the Russian Empress Catherine, iirc) and were somewhat autonomous during most of that time. They were also, iirc, some of the first parts of the Russian Empire to industrialize, and thus also home to some of the early worker's movements.
I spent nine months in the Baltics as part of the NATO missions out there. These guys deviated from Russia a long time ago. Still useful analysis but a click bait headline.
@@tawmas1593 Soooort of. Lets throw out ethno-nationalism in a modern sense. Lithuania does NOT predate Russia, we became a country in 20th century. The rest before that is distant history. Yes, lithuanian states before that do have connection to modern lithuanians, but its sort of saying how Russia is somehow Rus, not Muscovy.
Some incorrect information in video led to lots of confusions: 1. Frequency stays the same, it's just the question of who balances the grid - Russia/Belarus or EU. So all the electricity gadgets from EU travellers will continue to work without any adapters. 2. It's not just Suwalki gap - there are electricity cables under the Baltic sea that connect all Baltic states with Sweden and Finland.
Frequency stays the same, but unless the Russian grid is synchronised with the European grid, the phase (where the waveform is in time) is different. There would be a big bang and plenty of fried equipment if one were to be connected to the other out of phase.
Also: 1. Balts deviated from russia in the 90s, not in the '20s, how Zeihan says. 2. Lithuania is in Northern Europe, not Central Europe. 3. He said ditching russian gas is a small step to make Balts part of the free world, yet Lithuania has a 89/100 global freedom score, Latvia 88/100 and Estonia 95/100. Zeihan misinforming yet again
@@Teskalis today, 20.August is the Reindependence day in Estonia. Celebrating the second ditching (90s) of Russia. We first gained independence from Russia in 1918, so we originally ditched Russia in the 1920s. Zeihan sadly has no clue about the topic he covers here. The Baltic states, specially Estonia are the most "free" and European countries from all the post soviet countries. he makes it sound like we are still russia or smth.
@@breadman9053 I commented halfway through the video. Idk why you're grilling me for him using a clickbait title that he himself argues against in his conclusion.
The Baltic countries have been incredibly disciplined and focused. They know NATO can't defend them in a Russian first wave and the plan has always been for them to be rescued. The Baltics like Poland are a shield. They just want to make sure someone will come after the fact. Honestly tho with as bad as Russia has performed in UA, I think the Baltics more like a wall and not a road bump.
And i did think that the West want European people gone ...and are very Open about IT to the Point that even people Like the Englisch can See IT (and that IS ...wow..)
@@LoganChristianson Poorly? They are vacuuming up territory in Southern Ukraine. Stop swallowing NATO lies and propaganda. The Ukrainians are losing, they are absolutely hemorrhaging troops and equipment. They are outgunned on artillery AND the US and the WEST can't produce shells fast enough to supply them.
You're an idiot if you think Russia is going to invade the Baltics. There is literally nothing to be gained by doing so. Even if they could take them, they can't hold them. Not only that, invading would trigger Article 5 and ALL of NATO would be rallied to go to war against Russia.
Estlink, the power cables between Estonia and Finland, was fully operational in 2007 and therefor was integrated to nordic and european power grids. Cutting ties with russian power grid doesn't mean Estonia only now became linked to european power grid. It's more about cutting all ties with Russia. Integration w/ Europe happened long time ago.
Its the rail project that needs sorting though. Lithuania has real problems there. Ive been on their rolling stock 💀 _(PS., if you don't believe see Beno's travelogue of Lithuania!)_
@@MegaCm123456 Lithuania also has cable to Sweeden since 2015, that does't chang fact that it is still part of exUSSR power grid, as do Estonia and Latvia how I does not like it
So engineer here, specifics as follows: Both Russian grid and Continental Synchronous Area are 50 Hz. Baltic states currently on Russian/Belarusian grid, let Russian operators balance the grid, including frequency fine control. 8-Feb-2025 they switch to European grid. They are prepared to do this now if an emergency arose. Grid system operations by the dynamic nature and potential for negative consequences of meddling is less likely to be gamed by Russia, in comparison to say a gas pipeline.
Excellent explanation. So not so much an issue of upgrading capital and equipment but rather just shutting it all down (voluntary blackout), letting all the generators spin down to remove momentum and then cold starting the entire system on a different synchronized network. It’s moments like this that remind you that no matter how digital the system is, it’s still mechanical in its foundation.
Can we just agree that it’s still rather amazing that Peter spits out massive amounts of technical information daily while hiking around, he’s bound to slip up a detail or two. I’d say he’s still more factual than news reporters with teleprompters.
And the worry about it being gamed by Russia in the future, if it hasn't already been gamed by now, is that Russian infrastructure is falling apart as the Russian state can't afford to maintain it anymore. I imagine that the recent massive power outage in the Russian far east served as a wake-up call to the Baltic states that this could be them next if they're tied to the same grid.
@@Ophaganestopolis yes and the comment he made is the kind of thing which undermine progress in Latvia (and the Baltics) more than anything else, even worse than Russian influence sometimes.
I just came back from vacation in Lithuania. Vilnius is extremely modern, with AI cashierless supermarkets, thriving tech sector, many Michelin starred restaurants, scandinavian style architecture. In many ways they are ahead of Poland. Estonia is even more ahead of Lithuania. They all rank very high in economic freedom rankings. And they are desperate for foreign workers and are hiring like crazy.
The Baltic states were member of the Hansa League in the Middle Ages. London, Bruges, Bergen, Frisia, Bremen, Lubeck, Bornholm, Gdansk and the Baltic states; The link with Western Europe is very old! Some dialects of those harbours were almost the same!
Incorrect information. Baltic countries where brutally incorporated and occupied into Soviet Union, when the other countries, like Poland and others, weren't. That's why there are more differences between countries.
All countries were brutally occupied and incorporated. The difference was between being a satellite state or a new oblast. And the differences between the two were not too great. In the end, the rusky mir is a prison of nations one way or another.
Oh, they "voted" with the EU decades ago .... that's one thing, like it's one "thing" to tell your neighbor, ore even everybody within earshot, that you are joining the HOA ... it a whole magnitude greater "thing" when you rewire your houses to be able to be on the same uniform grid as everyone else in the HOA.
@@danieparriott265 Nope, we are long time in EU. Power grids don't have anything to do with this. If we weren't in EU I think a big part of population would be pro russian. But thankfully, we are in EU and for quite some time now... If you want to see real EU country that is acting against EU and helping russia destabilize EU look at Hungary.
We have adapted to European life long ago. The grid change is just one more invisible step towards Europe. I've never been to ruSSia or Belarus and have been many times to the rest of the EU where we just drive freely with no border checks. I consider myself EU citizen, knowledge about russian life are just from history books and from what my parents/grandparents told me. People should be united by ideas, not nationalities or ethnicities etc.
Dutch woman here. I consider all countries in Europe to be brothers and sisters. I don't care if you are German or Croatian or Polish. If you look back in time we all have a lot in common. 20 or 30 Years ago some people would say that Eastern Europe is poor, etc. But most people don't view it like that anymore. And we have plenty of poverty in Western Europe too.
Baltic states switch their electric power grid to EU NOW, not 34 years ago. Your point? Have you even tried to watch the video with understanding? You have problems that Peter is explaining situation for people who might not know?
And it all stalled as giant hole in the budget uncovered recently. Typical Eastern European thing, even proper name for geographic region is disputed. Of course, we has that Tempelhof issue as well - it was launched, after all. Rail Baltica might be never completed.
the rail gauge in the baltics is still the wide gauge that's been the standard since tsarist russian empire. that one might take longer to change than electical grid balancing points
This video has quite a few bits of misinformation or lack of clarity that's causing a lot of confusion. The Baltics have long ''ditched'' Russia, Kaliningrad is not the way to ''connect to the grid'', as the Baltic Sea has long stood as the main way for electricity, gas, etc., which is one of the reasons why Russia wants to claim it to begin with. There's no frequency change, as it's universally 50 Hz and there's nothing really new here as Lithuania, especially, has been very vocal about cutting any ties to Russia, even more so with the Russo-Ukrainian War.
It's the same frequency, it's just a question of who it is synchronized with. Ukraine managed to switch over real quick sometime at the start of the invasion. There are power cables from Finland and Sweden to the Baltic since many years.
Re: 1:30 As a nation, Estonia may be grouped as Baltic, as it's on the Baltic Sea. The language, though, is not Baltic, and most Estonian citizens are not Balts.
Hi, central European there. 1) Baltics states are baltics states and central europe is central europe. Those are two different regions. 2) Czechia industrialized before WWI. During Habsburg monarchy and kept high level of development basicly until communist F up everything. Even during and after Great depression, in 1932, Czechoslovakia was in top 10 of the most industrially developed countries in the world.
1:50 Always need to fact check this guy.😂"Sweden's industrialization in the 40s and 50s"? What are you talking about? Both UK and Germany was dependent on Swedish goods especially ball bearings during WW2. "The industrialization of Sweden began during the second half of the nineteenth century. The industrial breakthrough occurred in the 1870s during the international boom period, and it carried on through the decades in response to the growing demand of the home market." Perhaps he was thinking of Norway that had rapid industrialization in 1920-1930
He did emphasize "real" which would imply that the industrialization in Sweden was on a smaller scale or relied on partial labor more than machines. Industrialization continued until the 70s. So is it a fact check or a misunderstanding/misinterpretation considering things like the inland line was completed in 1937?
A kind interpretation would be he’s referencing the rapid GDP growth in the wake of WWII where Sweden had a leg up vs continental Europe in so far as it wasn’t bombed etc. Being neutral and all that. Sweden was a poor nation in the 1930’s after all. Even if industrialized :)
by the 1940s sweden was already pretty industrialized. theyve been really good at steel production and they have a lot of natural resources like wood and iron
@@Veryperceptivecat russian settlers imported during the cold war aren't much of a consideration for locals, and even their descendants overwhelmingly are choosing local language and western views
Actually Soviets and Europeans grids have the same frequency and voltage. The might be some synchronization issues and standards that regulates how to build your grid but that not about voltage and frequency. For example soviet power plug looks similar except pins a bit slimmer but that not an issue like 20-25 years already because you just can't buy soviet power plug for more then 30 years.
Your chanel has so many historical inaccuracies that it basically invalidates any credibility when it comes to your other claims. Sweden became industrialized in the 1870s. And some of the technology that enabled modern machining for example depended heavily on swedish precosion measuring tools. I have previously heard you make equally ridiculous claims about other nordic countries.
Sweden’s industrialization started before 1850. Ericsson, Atlas Copco, ASEA (ABB), Alfa Laval, Sandvik were all founded between 1850 and 1900. . After 1900, we can add companies like Volvo and Astra (Astra Seneca). By the 1950’s, Sweden produced jet fighters and built nuclear power plants.
Was about to comment on this. Sweden has long been an industrial nation. Even back in the 17 and 18 hundreds. With iron, lumber and weapons production.
Sweden had industry but it was not a modernised industrial country like the US, UK and Germany. It did not become a western industrial country until post 1930s.
@@Art-is-craft even germany and most of europe for that matter wasn't that industrialized, the US was pretty much the only country that wasn't reliant on horsepower during ww2
@@Art-is-craft I guess you never heard about John Ericsson whom modernized the Industry in US and built the USS Monitor. Sweden was well ahead of its time in 1850 and earlier
Rail Baltica is a rail project which is coming online in 2026, running from Berlin through the top half of Poland, to all of the Baltic capitals and a few other cities like Kaunas and Tartu, and ending up in Helsinki, Finland’s capital. Have seen it being built, it’s coming along wonderfully. And yes, the Baltic countries feel extremely European, moreso than the Balkans. Or Birmingham.
The connection to Helsinki is by ferry. There are a bunch of ferry services between Tallinn and Helsinki already. Finland's rail system was initially built by the Russians in the mid-1800s, so Finland has the wider tracks. I've ridden multiple ferry services between Helsinki and Tallinn over the years, as well as the Tolstoy train that Lenin and Lee Harvey Oswald rode into Russia.
Rail Baltica is basically converting the Baltics to European standard rail gauge instead of leaving them on the old Russian tracks. That will help with economic integration of the baltics.
Sweden armed the 3 Baltic states in 1991-92. they received equipment for each of their infantry brigades of 5,000 men. a total of 15,000 soldiers. That's why they give Swedish weapons to Ukraine today.
javelin's for example are not swedish weapons that baltics are giving and gave one month before the start of the war in 2022. those helped a lot in defending of Kiev.
@@AverageNorwegianGamer "Stop the Hate against Russia". You think that Russia should be able to invade any country (eg Ukraine, Georgia, Moldovia, Czehcnia) blow up hospitals and that it shouldn't be held in disgust? "Peace" so you think Russia should be able to invade, annex, practice espionage, hate propaganda and then there should be a peace in Russia's favor without consequences? -You work for Russian propaganda.
When I was training with the Estonians, coming from Finland, they had older Finnish Pasi APCs, Israeli Galil rifles, and MG3s. Now they have a lot more US weapons with M142 HIMARS, new US-built LMT Carbines, Vortex Optics, and US Javelin anti-tank weapons. Sweden has sent CV90s and Carl Gustav AT weapons as well. You can look through the Estonian Army list of weapons and vehicles to see country of origin.
@@marklittle8805 Even at $30B it's a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things; aid and military support sent to Ukraine, enhancing future security of the European Eastern flank et. etc. JFDI
Svenska kraftnät has built the electricity connection NordBalt. When it went into operation at the beginning of 2016, it became the Swedish transmission network's first connection to the Baltic. Through NordBalt, the connection between the Nordic and Baltic electricity markets is strengthened. Hmm since feb, 2016.
The power cables between Estonia and Finland opened much earlier. Estlink 1 went online in 2006. Estlink 2 went online in 2014. Estlink 3 is in planning stages. There is also a gas pipeline between Estonia and Finland called Balticconnector that was launched in 2019.
I’ve been through that gap from Poland to Lithuania and back. It’s very small, but extremely important for river crossings and tactical positions in war. Another great video from Peter
Thanks for your comment! I did not realize the Sweden was the original home of gauge blocks prior to reading your comment. Kudos to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Edvard_Johansson
Sweden, like many other remnants of the bygone empires, had some small firms that adapted to new developments pioneered in England, Germany, and the US, but its modernized infrastructure came much later, namely after WWII. Sweden was a major naval power in Europe up until the early 1800s, having spent centuries dominating the Nordics and Northwestern Russia, with bouts of competition with Polish-Lithuanian Empire as well. There is a delusional sense of romanticism among Swedes that they are still some type of super power, without even being a middle power anymore. They definitely contributed to the development of some new artillery technology and high quality steel barrel manufacturing even in the late 1800s, after the Prussians really took high-strength steel artillery to the forefront in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, but the 1800s-forward Swedish population has never been large enough to support modern industrial sectors. Take gas turbines, for example.
The tunnel is not for the benefit of Finland or Estonia but for the connectivity of the new rail link from Berlin to Rovaniemi connecting all the Baltic states together and making transport easier. The sea between Finland and Estonia isn’t particularly deep. If there is one thing Finns enjoy more than sauna ( possibly not)is tunnelling. They have years of experience tunnelling. The economy benefits will come in time..
It's definitely Central, both geographically and culturally. Those who emphasize it's Northern are most often weirdos that think the Nordics are somehow culturally superior, or it's just a cringy way to distinguish themselves from the neighboring Slavs.
When you refer to "the Balts" you're referring to almost all Lithuanian citizens, about 75% of Latvian citizens, and very few Estonian citizens. It would be more accurate and respectful to speak of the Baltic region.
As an Estonian it just bothers me because of the inaccuracy not the lumping in with you.. we have more genetic links scientists have discovered over the years. So it shouldn't offend Estonians at all or any other Baltic person 😌
It happen during WW2 already as Germany did change it as they invade the USSR. I am sure that they will change it after the war now. The break from russia willbe forever.
ERROR - The Baltic states are not changing "frequency"; the frequency will remain at 50 Hz. They're changing the *synchronization* (which would be phase, not just frequency) from "IPS/UPS" (some CIS countries) to "UCTE" (Synchronous Grid of Continental Europe). It's intended to enhance security.
Industrialisation began in Czarist times already, with Reval (now Tallinn) and particularly Riga being very industrialised. It's apparently easier with a literate workforce; the Lutheran church wouldn't let you get married if you didn't know how to read, whereas the Orthodox church did not care. Lithuania was more rural, and that's one of the main reasons why Estonia and Latvia have sizable Russian populations while Lithuania does not - it proved impossible to plant Russian settlers into villages (Lithuania), but there was much demand for workforce in the industry (Estonia and Latvia).
The Baltics ditched Russia for European integration long ago. Fixed the title for you. You need to employ better people to write those titles. This isn't the first time a title needs fixing.
Europe uses 50Hz, and I thought Russia uses 50Hz. What is the electrical Hz in the Baltics? What is the electrical Hz in Russia? I did Google this. It's all 50Hz frequency but because the EU grid is separate from the Russian grid, the two grids are not synchronized. The point of confusion for me is Peter's wording. It's not about a change in frequency, it's all 50Hz. It's about synchronizing the frequency from one grid to another. So there will have to be a grid shutdown to synchronize the Baltic grid to the EU.
Vilnius is a nice, peaceful, modern (socially, politically) european city. The only downside is it's a stone's throw from the belarus border. Very isolated from any other major area
Belarus will go west eventually. The last election the west parties won and military stepped in. Baltic states with Belarus to the south are not so isolated
The frequency will stay unchanged. What will change is how the grid is synchronized and interconnected. Details are complicated so I suggest reading the wikipedia article or if you're so inclined the related articles on utility industry web sites. This all doesn't matter to consumers - 230V, 50Hz before, 230V, 50Hz after. The wall sockets won't change. No need to know or worry about. So all this is more of a political thing.
Nice to see snow in August! Remember over forty years ago living in Colorado and driving up Rollins pass (in my 1958 hemi powered Dodge Powerwagon!) to go tubing in July.
As I understand this is not change in frequency (they are using 50Hz like rest of Europe and almost all world ;-)) but shifting phase so maximums and minimums of theirs sinuses will be in the same place/moment like for rest of Europe ;-) Similar thing was as I understand done ~2 years ago for Ukraine and at the time it took ~2 months? and was still in emergency mode without a lot of bureaucracy done
Paisagem deslumbrante. Vocé é um sortudo, tão pertinho de Deus! Devo dizer que estou aprendendo muito com seus vídeos. Vocé me ensina, principalmente, a ver a floresta, ao invés de árvores, ao talvez ainda mais longe. Eu tinha dificuldade em entender muitas coisas, por me prender em minúcias, que até tem relevância, mas atrapalha a análise do todo. Muito obrigada! E parabéns por ser americano e valorizar isso. Amo e admiro os Estados Unidos da América. Infelizmente não dei tanta sorte..( longe disso).
1:35 - That's not true. Czechia was able to produce own tanks before WWII, Poland was able to produce own tanks, cars, planes. 1:54 - Also not true. The Baltics had their systems designed by Soviet standards because the Baltic states were part of the USSR proper (like Belarus and Ukraine) and Czechia, Poland, Hungary - were independent (technically) states, they were not part of the USSR and they had own standards.
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The Eastern Bloc countries were occupied and basically Peter is right about them not being independent during that period of time
Thank you. Back in the summer of '22 I gave up trying to correct inaccuracies like these because it had become a full-time job. Insert eye-roll here. 😅
Moving away from Russia was our goal. Economically it was a painful decision, at least for Lithuania. But it had to be done. Our economy was heavy relient on transit from the EU to Russia. Our logistic sector provided work for around ~400k people, our population is barely ~3million. Thats actually around ~12% of population. Now this sector is shrinking fast, very fast. Similar things happened with other sectors, because it was very common to buy resources from Russia, make stuff here in Lithuania and sell them the products. Wood, metal, agriculture sectors felt a huge blow after the invasion in Ukraine, when they had to shut thier connections for good. Moving away from BREL(russian electricity connection) was one of the steps, but we also moved away from Russian gas pipes, by building the gas tanker. It was expensive especially for a country with 3million people. I believe Latvia and Estonia are doing the same... So what I am saying is that we pay a lot for this. Our businesses pay a lot for this. Like a lot really.... Yet look at who is the main providers for Ukraine on % per GDP, we provide what we can as much as we can... While some other bigger countries are crying about 0.3% of defense budget increase and so on...
A nice and concise review as usually. I just want to point out that the frequency states the same i.e. 50Hz the thing which is changing is called frequency synchronization. In more detail, the freqency of the electric network of the Baltic states will be synchronized with the western European network. Presently the frequency synchronization is controlled from Russia.
It was his choice of words. Americans have a different sense of proportion and dimensions. Him being from Kansas , well 80 km it is a sliver by their own definition . Fifty miles is a commute by most Americans standards.
@@serafinacosta7118 He's from Iowa, but the point holds .... also, in Western Professional Military terms, "80 Kilometers" is not even of the same order of magnitude as it is to people that must walk into combat, and move supplies from trains to trucks to depots to trucks to local unit supply dumps to smaller trucks or other improvised transport (turtle tanks or mopeds or whatever ...) and the out the end users ..... and every transfer involves theft and waste and graft ..... Americans advance and sustain that advance faster than Russians could ever react.... and the magic is in the LOGISTICS: Russians have a lot of guys on the front just standing around or digging holes ..... there are 4 guys supplying/supporting every front line grunt/tanker/redleg the Americans put out there.... we never run out of anything at crunch time.
When Peter does not know, he just fakes it and pretends that he is well versed in the subject. His assertions about frequency were also wrong. Russia and the rest of Europe are both 50 Hz.
If elections would've been held like they should've, there could've been a chance. If Putin wouldn't have been so power hungry who knows where Russia might've been led to.. but corruption in the Russian culture has always been present. It would take a herculean effort to even try to steer generations away from that, which will not happen in the coming decades as far as I'm concerned.
Not really. Russia was the guy at the back of the group with a gun to everybody's head. All top soviet leadership was either directly Russian, or had been fully indoctrinated into a "Russia First" mentality. Non-Russian states in the USSR existed to provide Russia with both a population base for workers and soldiers.. and a physical buffer between Russia and everybody Russia didn't control. As the USSR started to fracture, soviet military forces were drawn back into an ever shrinking "core" territory. At the end of that separation, there was so much military hardware and manpower stacked up in Russia proper that there was basically no chance for anybody else to survive the attempt to break off more, so that was basically it.
Peter, you need to come west a bit for some of your hikes! Utah and Nevada have some of the most amazing mountains around. Many of them are undiscovered or not as popular as in colorado, but they still deserve attention . This is especially true of the Uintah mountains in Utah.
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Lithuanian here with vague ability to run a quick google search. Lithuania is at 50Hz now, so is Germany and France. What exactly we are switching in frequency? You are right, there were people who left after Lithuania became independent on 1990. Exceptionally few though, and those were russian patriots who truly believed that they came to save Lithuania. I've lost one friend myself, her family moved to Russia. Well, propaganda is strong now, even more so back then. Obviously, small countries can not defend themselves, this is why they unite. That's why we have EU or USA. Thank you for the publicity.
It seems very improbable now and yet in 10 years we won't recognize Europe. Not only Ukraine but also Belarus(!) will be part of NATO. Main conversation will be not how to defend Baltics but should we defend Russians from Chinese.
A colleague made a recent trip to Lithuania and took a boat trip along the Nemunas river which forms the border between Kaliningrad (insert new name here) and LT. On the whole trip down and back along the river he did not see one person or vehicle on the kaliningrad side. Yes this is a sparcely populated part of the state but not to see anyone only leads me to suspect they've all been dragged off to the front and / or they've left in anticipation of Imminent collaps?
Industrialization in Sweden started before 1850, not 1940/1950...what's Peter talking about??? He sounds so confident but he gets his facts quite wrong sometimes.
Same! Very informative insight even if it's not always 100% right. A good portion of geopolitics is based on human behaviors which we ALL know is highly unpredictable at times.😆
What are the biggest things he's wrong about? One thing I've seen him be wrong about consistently is electric cars. The last big thing I saw him very wrong about was him saying Biden was a shoe in for re-election @@bigchills7194
Rather shalow and uninformed comment. Formaly Baltic states are in Northern-East Europe. Second - they didn't experience their first industrialisation during the Soviet occupation. And using the naming "Balts" is simply lowcultured and stupid. Only russkies using it. Would you use "Latinos" while speaking about South America in geopolitical context?
At the same time, you slur on Russians using the word 'russkies'. Your tone demonstrated what it means to be 'low cultured' and demonstrated typical nationalistic disrespect, supremacy beliefs, and passive aggression we've already seen somewhere. Moreover, it is very clear to everyone who is familiar with the Russian context how current Baltic nationalist practices are similar to current Kremlin ones. Just a mirror! I mean, one country deported 70+ senior beyond the border with no personal items, divided him from his family, and left him without any help. One school principal was fired for citing a historical book recently. Guess which governments did that? I am not against the people of the Baltic states-ppeace for them! They are beautiful people and deserve prosperity. But the hatred and stupidity of the nationalists are above all reasonable limits. And when they reach decision-making... uh oh...
Love your series but could you talk about hiking and how you find these trails? Do you hike with a group? Do you fly to various trips? What about risks on trails like falling off cliff trails? How do you deal with these risks? Thanks!
Russia...230v 50Hz Latvia .. 230v 50Hz Lithuania 230v 50Hz Estonia 230v 50Hz I think Peter needs to look at his facts.. this is the European standard today.
Balts had industrialisation before the Soviets. Under the Soviets it just happened at much larger scale, because of mass influx of people from other Soviet republics which were sent there to achieve certain things, including Russificatian.
I would not say the industrialization was in larger scale. Most fabrics worked on pre Soviet equipment, that Russia did not steal. Electricity was produced in much larger scale ( in Estonia) but most of it went to Leningrad.
Unfortunately this video is uninformed and straight up full of false or misleading information. A lot of people in the comments already pointed a lot of things out. TLDR: Baltics regained independence in 1991, are part of EU and NATO since 2004 (20 years), are located in Northern Europe Lithuanians and Latvians are Balts, Estonians and Finns are Finnic Baltic grids have been connected to Sweden and Finland for more than a decade now. We trade electricity on the NordPool market. We are just now desynchronising from Russia - meaning if the grid experiences instability, we have our own compensators to compensate for that (been buying this service from Russia till now). Sweden and Baltics industrialised way before what was claimed.
Actually industrialization in Baltic countries started already, when we where under Tsardom of Russia and other modern practices was implemented even before them. Russia conquered our countries after Great Northern war in 18th century. All the soviets did - they restored, only in their own twisted image, what they themselves and Nazis destroyed.
Yep, I'm from Lithuania and I can assure that we want nothing to do with Moscovites. It is known that the Baltics were under soviet occupation, what is less known that there was a genocide towards the Baltics - killings, mass deportations to siberia to die less rapidly than kill. Hence the small population.
Latvia chiming in.
You're absolutely correct - basically every Latvian family know and have a story that is still told today about a closer or further relative that was deported, starved and died or if lucky made it back. Many also have relatives that KGB jailed or killed.
So yes, we will never forget or change our opinion about the murdering occupying neighbor.
We're slowly soaking in this information now that our press and politicians aren't whitewashing Soviet atrocities to promote peace that isn't happening. It's not widely common knowledge, but the information is readily available and we're learning how horribly the Muscovites have treated, and continue to treat, all the non-Muscovites both in the former USSR and in modern Russia.
Same here is Estonia.
@@benediktas200 In the middle of Vilnius is the building where the KBG had its headquarters where they tortured people and in the basement killed over seventy prisoners. (The building is a museum now).
@@siamanspaps russians LOVE saying that "if it weren't for [russians], half of Europe would be speaking German language."
Implying saving Europe from genocide.
Well, now half of Europe speaks russian language.
russians are bigger genocidal imperialists than the nazis.
The Baltics Ditched Russia in the 90s
@@eruno_ Exactly.
For the second time in the decade. They ditched Russia after WWI as well, though those three independence movements required war.
We never wanted anything to do with Russia.
Oh, hey eruno. Small world, huh. Till we meet again.
They Ditched it 1941 in the Most clear way IT can be done
Given their history, it is totally unsurprising that the 3 Baltic states couldn't join the EU and get under the NATO security umbrella fast enough, when the Soviet Union collapsed.
They'll never again be part of the Russian Empire, that window to the West is firmly and permanently closed for Moscow.
Moscow doesn't want anything Western as look at BRICS look at the major players in the world, as we have been fooled again as we the West are 13% of the world and Russia through BRICS and other groups represent the other 87% of the world. Russia is in a far better off position now than we are, so we need the war to get rid of our Debt and save our sorry arses?
they're NOT abandoning ruzzia, they abandoned it decades ago. the baltics are more european that some eastern europe countries (cough cough, hungary), if you ask me.
How couldn't we be, we're smack down in the centre of Europe! I'd say that both westerners and easterners are more like us than we as them, ha!
@@krumuvecis You're not in the center.
@@razackchrist5096 what's a center then?
@@krumuvecis Good question.
Germany and Poland.
Maybe also Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Slovenia?
Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania are more Eastern European, rather than mitteleuropa
I'd like to add that not welcoming Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia into NATO and the EU was never really an option. At least from a German perspective. The cultural exchange across the Baltic Sea goes as far back as therehave been humans living in the region. And since the formation of the Hanseatic League in the middle ages as well as the Teutonic Crusades the cultural ties to Germany in particular have been fraught and bloody but deep and lasting. Religiously, Lithuania was Catholic, Latvia and Estonia Protestant. Linguistically Lithuanian and Latvian are baltic languages only distantly related to slavic languages and Estonian is a finno-ugric langauge related to Finnish and Hungarian and not at all a part of the Indo-European language family. The region has only relatively recently come under the control of the various Russian Empires (during the expansions under the Russian Empress Catherine, iirc) and were somewhat autonomous during most of that time.
They were also, iirc, some of the first parts of the Russian Empire to industrialize, and thus also home to some of the early worker's movements.
That's very helpful and informative, thank you.🙂
I spent nine months in the Baltics as part of the NATO missions out there. These guys deviated from Russia a long time ago. Still useful analysis but a click bait headline.
fun fact - Lithuania predates russia by several hundred years.
True. Baltic countries are totally normal EU countries nowadays.
@@tawmas1593 Soooort of. Lets throw out ethno-nationalism in a modern sense. Lithuania does NOT predate Russia, we became a country in 20th century. The rest before that is distant history. Yes, lithuanian states before that do have connection to modern lithuanians, but its sort of saying how Russia is somehow Rus, not Muscovy.
80% bs is not good
@@shrekas2966 our national existance is older than russia. Grand Dutchy of Lithuania is the start point for our nation.
Some incorrect information in video led to lots of confusions: 1. Frequency stays the same, it's just the question of who balances the grid - Russia/Belarus or EU. So all the electricity gadgets from EU travellers will continue to work without any adapters. 2. It's not just Suwalki gap - there are electricity cables under the Baltic sea that connect all Baltic states with Sweden and Finland.
Frequency stays the same, but unless the Russian grid is synchronised with the European grid, the phase (where the waveform is in time) is different. There would be a big bang and plenty of fried equipment if one were to be connected to the other out of phase.
@@martinlord5969 You cannot connect out of phase - it is not like you connect a light switch . You may have a black-out but not a big bang .
Also: 1. Balts deviated from russia in the 90s, not in the '20s, how Zeihan says. 2. Lithuania is in Northern Europe, not Central Europe. 3. He said ditching russian gas is a small step to make Balts part of the free world, yet Lithuania has a 89/100 global freedom score, Latvia 88/100 and Estonia 95/100. Zeihan misinforming yet again
@@TeskalisruSSia ❄️ is losing 😂
@@Teskalis today, 20.August is the Reindependence day in Estonia. Celebrating the second ditching (90s) of Russia. We first gained independence from Russia in 1918, so we originally ditched Russia in the 1920s. Zeihan sadly has no clue about the topic he covers here. The Baltic states, specially Estonia are the most "free" and European countries from all the post soviet countries. he makes it sound like we are still russia or smth.
The pivot towards Europe happened a long time ago. This is just a step on the long road to integration.
@@breadman9053 I commented halfway through the video. Idk why you're grilling me for him using a clickbait title that he himself argues against in his conclusion.
yeah old news. We Nordics see the Baltics as our cousins. They are also very innovative and very tech savy.
Exactly. Baltic countries are normal EU countries nowadays.
Ummmm yeah
Didn't they ditch Russia 35 years ago?
@@dontcomply3976… yes, of couse!… totaly integrated - EU membet, Euro currency adopters and NATO members - and quite dinamic a pro business
The Baltic countries have been incredibly disciplined and focused. They know NATO can't defend them in a Russian first wave and the plan has always been for them to be rescued. The Baltics like Poland are a shield. They just want to make sure someone will come after the fact. Honestly tho with as bad as Russia has performed in UA, I think the Baltics more like a wall and not a road bump.
I don't think literally absolutely anyone was expecting Russia to perform this poorly in the war.
They are the watchers on the wall, the shields that guard the realms of men.
And i did think that the West want European people gone ...and are very Open about IT to the Point that even people Like the Englisch can See IT (and that IS ...wow..)
@@LoganChristianson Poorly? They are vacuuming up territory in Southern Ukraine. Stop swallowing NATO lies and propaganda. The Ukrainians are losing, they are absolutely hemorrhaging troops and equipment. They are outgunned on artillery AND the US and the WEST can't produce shells fast enough to supply them.
You're an idiot if you think Russia is going to invade the Baltics. There is literally nothing to be gained by doing so. Even if they could take them, they can't hold them. Not only that, invading would trigger Article 5 and ALL of NATO would be rallied to go to war against Russia.
Estlink, the power cables between Estonia and Finland, was fully operational in 2007 and therefor was integrated to nordic and european power grids. Cutting ties with russian power grid doesn't mean Estonia only now became linked to european power grid. It's more about cutting all ties with Russia. Integration w/ Europe happened long time ago.
Still till 2025 02 09, Estonia is part of exUSSR IPS/UPS Network, which is managed from Moscow
@@kzinas1 yes. But that doesn't make anything fnbtt said invalid.
Its the rail project that needs sorting though. Lithuania has real problems there. Ive been on their rolling stock 💀
_(PS., if you don't believe see Beno's travelogue of Lithuania!)_
@@MegaCm123456 Lithuania also has cable to Sweeden since 2015, that does't chang fact that it is still part of exUSSR power grid, as do Estonia and Latvia how I does not like it
@@EdgyNumber1 All Baltic states has issues with RailBaltic biggest in Latvia, underbudget, failing construction graphic
So engineer here, specifics as follows:
Both Russian grid and Continental Synchronous Area are 50 Hz. Baltic states currently on Russian/Belarusian grid, let Russian operators balance the grid, including frequency fine control.
8-Feb-2025 they switch to European grid. They are prepared to do this now if an emergency arose.
Grid system operations by the dynamic nature and potential for negative consequences of meddling is less likely to be gamed by Russia, in comparison to say a gas pipeline.
Useful info. Thank you for taking the time.
Excellent explanation. So not so much an issue of upgrading capital and equipment but rather just shutting it all down (voluntary blackout), letting all the generators spin down to remove momentum and then cold starting the entire system on a different synchronized network. It’s moments like this that remind you that no matter how digital the system is, it’s still mechanical in its foundation.
I assume this leaves the Kalinigrad grid isolated and potentially a hightened risk of outages.
Can we just agree that it’s still rather amazing that Peter spits out massive amounts of technical information daily while hiking around, he’s bound to slip up a detail or two. I’d say he’s still more factual than news reporters with teleprompters.
And the worry about it being gamed by Russia in the future, if it hasn't already been gamed by now, is that Russian infrastructure is falling apart as the Russian state can't afford to maintain it anymore. I imagine that the recent massive power outage in the Russian far east served as a wake-up call to the Baltic states that this could be them next if they're tied to the same grid.
Your headline is somewhat misleading. The Baltic countries have been intergrating with Europe now for decades.
Welcome Latvia 🇱🇻, welcome Estonia 🇪🇪, welcome Lithuania 🇱🇹 forever European 🇪🇺
We love you ❤
welcome to where? we have been part of Europe since birth of the countries more than 100 years ago
Russia is the largest coubtry in europe!!!
@@janarkolemees You know what they mean. Everyone knows what they mean.
@@chrimbus71 and every 60 seconds a minute passes in africa
@@Ophaganestopolis yes and the comment he made is the kind of thing which undermine progress in Latvia (and the Baltics) more than anything else, even worse than Russian influence sometimes.
I just came back from vacation in Lithuania. Vilnius is extremely modern, with AI cashierless supermarkets, thriving tech sector, many Michelin starred restaurants, scandinavian style architecture. In many ways they are ahead of Poland. Estonia is even more ahead of Lithuania. They all rank very high in economic freedom rankings. And they are desperate for foreign workers and are hiring like crazy.
The Baltic states were member of the Hansa League in the Middle Ages. London, Bruges, Bergen, Frisia, Bremen, Lubeck, Bornholm, Gdansk and the Baltic states; The link with Western Europe is very old! Some dialects of those harbours were almost the same!
Incorrect information. Baltic countries where brutally incorporated and occupied into Soviet Union, when the other countries, like Poland and others, weren't. That's why there are more differences between countries.
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All countries were brutally occupied and incorporated. The difference was between being a satellite state or a new oblast. And the differences between the two were not too great. In the end, the rusky mir is a prison of nations one way or another.
Somebody should break the news to Peter that Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania have joined the EU 20 years ago.
Oh, they "voted" with the EU decades ago .... that's one thing, like it's one "thing" to tell your neighbor, ore even everybody within earshot, that you are joining the HOA ... it a whole magnitude greater "thing" when you rewire your houses to be able to be on the same uniform grid as everyone else in the HOA.
@@danieparriott265 Nope, we are long time in EU. Power grids don't have anything to do with this. If we weren't in EU I think a big part of population would be pro russian. But thankfully, we are in EU and for quite some time now... If you want to see real EU country that is acting against EU and helping russia destabilize EU look at Hungary.
@@ATU12you make no sense 😂
Yeah he knows he’s talking about the grid system dummy 😂😂😂
We have adapted to European life long ago. The grid change is just one more invisible step towards Europe. I've never been to ruSSia or Belarus and have been many times to the rest of the EU where we just drive freely with no border checks. I consider myself EU citizen, knowledge about russian life are just from history books and from what my parents/grandparents told me. People should be united by ideas, not nationalities or ethnicities etc.
@@jorislal this
In a perfect world yes. But we do not live in a perfect world , mind you. Perhaps on day it will come to your expectations.
Dutch woman here. I consider all countries in Europe to be brothers and sisters. I don't care if you are German or Croatian or Polish. If you look back in time we all have a lot in common.
20 or 30 Years ago some people would say that Eastern Europe is poor, etc. But most people don't view it like that anymore. And we have plenty of poverty in Western Europe too.
@@LalaDepala_00 Yeah. Estonia for example is per capita richer than Portugal and Greece nowadays. And on par with Spain.
I live in Tallinn(capital of Estonia) and go holiday to Greece because it's cheaper 😃
Baltics are not Eastern European, but Nordics, at least culturally, historically and genetically.
@@martinkoitmae6655 Thats not particularly a high bar its like bragging that your country has more gdp per capita than ethiopia
That goes out the window when you have to defend yourselves 😂
This video is something like 34 years a bit too late...
yes
This guy is American so his knowledge of anything outside America is rather limited as is his analysis.
@@fitzstv8506 What are you doing here? Hush, to the front lines in Kursk, Ivan!
Baltic states switch their electric power grid to EU NOW, not 34 years ago. Your point? Have you even tried to watch the video with understanding? You have problems that Peter is explaining situation for people who might not know?
The headline sure, but the contents of the video is about what is happening right now.
The Rail Baltica redesign of the rail network to emphasize connections to Poland rather than Russia is a big deal too.
@@bevbevan6189 And the Tallinn-Helsinki tunnel if it ever happens
Huge deal
And it all stalled as giant hole in the budget uncovered recently. Typical Eastern European thing, even proper name for geographic region is disputed. Of course, we has that Tempelhof issue as well - it was launched, after all. Rail Baltica might be never completed.
the rail gauge in the baltics is still the wide gauge that's been the standard since tsarist russian empire. that one might take longer to change than electical grid balancing points
@@maybeiwasthepilot wtf have you been smoking? Riga almost finished the huge station, work keeps going on there, its wasnt aboandoned, you russian bot
This video has quite a few bits of misinformation or lack of clarity that's causing a lot of confusion. The Baltics have long ''ditched'' Russia, Kaliningrad is not the way to ''connect to the grid'', as the Baltic Sea has long stood as the main way for electricity, gas, etc., which is one of the reasons why Russia wants to claim it to begin with. There's no frequency change, as it's universally 50 Hz and there's nothing really new here as Lithuania, especially, has been very vocal about cutting any ties to Russia, even more so with the Russo-Ukrainian War.
It's the same frequency, it's just a question of who it is synchronized with. Ukraine managed to switch over real quick sometime at the start of the invasion.
There are power cables from Finland and Sweden to the Baltic since many years.
Did you all just now notice it? This has been YEARS in the making.
Re: 1:30 As a nation, Estonia may be grouped as Baltic, as it's on the Baltic Sea. The language, though, is not Baltic, and most Estonian citizens are not Balts.
yup, we are finn(ic)s
Hi, central European there.
1) Baltics states are baltics states and central europe is central europe. Those are two different regions.
2) Czechia industrialized before WWI. During Habsburg monarchy and kept high level of development basicly until communist F up everything. Even during and after Great depression, in 1932, Czechoslovakia was in top 10 of the most industrially developed countries in the world.
oh please, stop the cringe.
1:50 Always need to fact check this guy.😂"Sweden's industrialization in the 40s and 50s"? What are you talking about? Both UK and Germany was dependent on Swedish goods especially ball bearings during WW2.
"The industrialization of Sweden began during the second half of the nineteenth century. The industrial breakthrough occurred in the 1870s during the international boom period, and it carried on through the decades in response to the growing demand of the home market."
Perhaps he was thinking of Norway that had rapid industrialization in 1920-1930
He did emphasize "real" which would imply that the industrialization in Sweden was on a smaller scale or relied on partial labor more than machines. Industrialization continued until the 70s. So is it a fact check or a misunderstanding/misinterpretation considering things like the inland line was completed in 1937?
A kind interpretation would be he’s referencing the rapid GDP growth in the wake of WWII where Sweden had a leg up vs continental Europe in so far as it wasn’t bombed etc. Being neutral and all that. Sweden was a poor nation in the 1930’s after all. Even if industrialized :)
by the 1940s sweden was already pretty industrialized. theyve been really good at steel production and they have a lot of natural resources like wood and iron
Sweden’s alloy steels were , at one point , the best the money could buy.
Why would the Balts not want to ditch Russia?
With politics and sociology, answers to such questions would take up min 30 pages... But Fear and uncertainty could be on the top of the list.
@@Sonnell over us all looms appalling history!
to sum it up, baltics dont want to be friends to an occupier and dictatorship
High numbers of Russian speakers perhaps?
@@Veryperceptivecat russian settlers imported during the cold war aren't much of a consideration for locals, and even their descendants overwhelmingly are choosing local language and western views
Actually Soviets and Europeans grids have the same frequency and voltage. The might be some synchronization issues and standards that regulates how to build your grid but that not about voltage and frequency. For example soviet power plug looks similar except pins a bit slimmer but that not an issue like 20-25 years already because you just can't buy soviet power plug for more then 30 years.
Your chanel has so many historical inaccuracies that it basically invalidates any credibility when it comes to your other claims. Sweden became industrialized in the 1870s. And some of the technology that enabled modern machining for example depended heavily on swedish precosion measuring tools. I have previously heard you make equally ridiculous claims about other nordic countries.
Sweden’s industrialization started before 1850. Ericsson, Atlas Copco, ASEA (ABB), Alfa Laval, Sandvik were all founded between 1850 and 1900. . After 1900, we can add companies like Volvo and Astra (Astra Seneca).
By the 1950’s, Sweden produced jet fighters and built nuclear power plants.
Was about to comment on this. Sweden has long been an industrial nation. Even back in the 17 and 18 hundreds. With iron, lumber and weapons production.
Sweden had industry but it was not a modernised industrial country like the US, UK and Germany. It did not become a western industrial country until post 1930s.
You forgot SKF.
@@Art-is-craft even germany and most of europe for that matter wasn't that industrialized, the US was pretty much the only country that wasn't reliant on horsepower during ww2
@@Art-is-craft I guess you never heard about John Ericsson whom modernized the Industry in US and built the USS Monitor. Sweden was well ahead of its time in 1850 and earlier
Rail Baltica is a rail project which is coming online in 2026, running from Berlin through the top half of Poland, to all of the Baltic capitals and a few other cities like Kaunas and Tartu, and ending up in Helsinki, Finland’s capital.
Have seen it being built, it’s coming along wonderfully. And yes, the Baltic countries feel extremely European, moreso than the Balkans. Or Birmingham.
The connection to Helsinki is by ferry. There are a bunch of ferry services between Tallinn and Helsinki already. Finland's rail system was initially built by the Russians in the mid-1800s, so Finland has the wider tracks.
I've ridden multiple ferry services between Helsinki and Tallinn over the years, as well as the Tolstoy train that Lenin and Lee Harvey Oswald rode into Russia.
Rail Baltica is basically converting the Baltics to European standard rail gauge instead of leaving them on the old Russian tracks. That will help with economic integration of the baltics.
@@LRRPFco52 Yep, Germany needs that increased economic integration. The business sector is moving factories and industry there.
Thank you for the analysis :)
Hehe😊
Sweden armed the 3 Baltic states in 1991-92.
they received equipment for each of their infantry brigades of 5,000 men.
a total of 15,000 soldiers.
That's why they give Swedish weapons to Ukraine today.
javelin's for example are not swedish weapons that baltics are giving and gave one month before the start of the war in 2022. those helped a lot in defending of Kiev.
@@AverageNorwegianGamer "Stop the Hate against Russia". You think that Russia should be able to invade any country (eg Ukraine, Georgia, Moldovia, Czehcnia) blow up hospitals and that it shouldn't be held in disgust? "Peace" so you think Russia should be able to invade, annex, practice espionage, hate propaganda and then there should be a peace in Russia's favor without consequences?
-You work for Russian propaganda.
When I was training with the Estonians, coming from Finland, they had older Finnish Pasi APCs, Israeli Galil rifles, and MG3s.
Now they have a lot more US weapons with M142 HIMARS, new US-built LMT Carbines, Vortex Optics, and US Javelin anti-tank weapons.
Sweden has sent CV90s and Carl Gustav AT weapons as well.
You can look through the Estonian Army list of weapons and vehicles to see country of origin.
@@Heinakuhi Pretty sure he's talking about the Pvpj 1110
Always love the background.
The estimated cost of the finland estonia tunnel is $15B... small change given the security benefits to Europe I would think.
I suspect that price will be twice that or better. It is a pretty long tunnel...
@@marklittle8805 Even at $30B it's a drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things; aid and military support sent to Ukraine, enhancing future security of the European Eastern flank et. etc. JFDI
Undersea tunnels might not be very safe &/or reliable in a war-time scenario. Kind of like bridges or undersea pipelines.
This tunnel won’t be built anytime soon.
Not a security feature.
Finland reinforced from Sweden and by sea.
Baltic states reinforced from Poland and by sea.
Industrialization in the baltics was going on before soviet occupation, the baltics are also north eastern not central european
Lithuania culturally (historically and architecturally) could be classified as central Europe.
@@dominykascivilis7003 nowadays far closer to North Europe. most economic, geopolitical exchange happens with the other Baltics and Nordics.
@@dominykascivilis7003 lithuania is 1/3 from the baltics so your point is mute?
@@dominykascivilis7003 It's culturally kinda alien IMO. Sort of like European Japan.
@@dominykascivilis7003 Nah, North East Europe is by far the most accurate description.
Svenska kraftnät has built the electricity connection NordBalt.
When it went into operation at the beginning of 2016, it became the Swedish transmission network's first connection to the Baltic.
Through NordBalt, the connection between the Nordic and Baltic electricity markets is strengthened.
Hmm since feb, 2016.
The power cables between Estonia and Finland opened much earlier. Estlink 1 went online in 2006. Estlink 2 went online in 2014. Estlink 3 is in planning stages. There is also a gas pipeline between Estonia and Finland called Balticconnector that was launched in 2019.
I’ve been through that gap from Poland to Lithuania and back. It’s very small, but extremely important for river crossings and tactical positions in war. Another great video from Peter
I don't get the claim Sweden industrialized in 1940's and 50's. Sweden gave us gauge blocks, Bofors, Volvo, Ericsson before 1940.
Thanks for your comment! I did not realize the Sweden was the original home of gauge blocks prior to reading your comment. Kudos to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Edvard_Johansson
Neither did I.
Sweden, like many other remnants of the bygone empires, had some small firms that adapted to new developments pioneered in England, Germany, and the US, but its modernized infrastructure came much later, namely after WWII.
Sweden was a major naval power in Europe up until the early 1800s, having spent centuries dominating the Nordics and Northwestern Russia, with bouts of competition with Polish-Lithuanian Empire as well.
There is a delusional sense of romanticism among Swedes that they are still some type of super power, without even being a middle power anymore.
They definitely contributed to the development of some new artillery technology and high quality steel barrel manufacturing even in the late 1800s, after the Prussians really took high-strength steel artillery to the forefront in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, but the 1800s-forward Swedish population has never been large enough to support modern industrial sectors. Take gas turbines, for example.
Sweden has an age old iron industry, I know, because Belgian iron workers from Wallonia moved to sweden in the 16th century.
Good old Fiskars (now Finnish, but Swedish Finns) didn't get around to making things until 1649 and Husqvarna has only been around since 1689.
The tunnel is not for the benefit of Finland or Estonia but for the connectivity of the new rail link from Berlin to Rovaniemi connecting all the Baltic states together and making transport easier. The sea between Finland and Estonia isn’t particularly deep. If there is one thing Finns enjoy more than sauna ( possibly not)is tunnelling. They have years of experience tunnelling. The economy benefits will come in time..
Lithuanians have corrected me thusly: The Baltic States are Northern European, not eastern, not central. This was stated quite emphatically!
In other words part of the Nordics.
Nordics and northern Europe are different things.
Baltic states are located in Northern Europe, but are not Nordic countries.
@@ulfdanielsen6009 Lithuania is not part of the Nordics.. they're part of Northern Europe
Interessante divisione e non unione, mi sembra però che a questa Europa manchi il meridione.
It's definitely Central, both geographically and culturally. Those who emphasize it's Northern are most often weirdos that think the Nordics are somehow culturally superior, or it's just a cringy way to distinguish themselves from the neighboring Slavs.
Lithuania was already starting to industrialise during independent interwar years.
When you refer to "the Balts" you're referring to almost all Lithuanian citizens, about 75% of Latvian citizens, and very few Estonian citizens. It would be more accurate and respectful to speak of the Baltic region.
As an Estonian it just bothers me because of the inaccuracy not the lumping in with you.. we have more genetic links scientists have discovered over the years. So it shouldn't offend Estonians at all or any other Baltic person 😌
It should be noted that the word "Balts" does not have the meaning you use. It can be confusing.
Now think how much more difficult is to switch the entire train network in Ukraine, Moldova...
It happen during WW2 already as Germany did change it as they invade the USSR. I am sure that they will change it after the war now. The break from russia willbe forever.
ERROR - The Baltic states are not changing "frequency"; the frequency will remain at 50 Hz.
They're changing the *synchronization* (which would be phase, not just frequency) from "IPS/UPS" (some CIS countries) to "UCTE" (Synchronous Grid of Continental Europe).
It's intended to enhance security.
thank you!
Industrialisation began in Czarist times already, with Reval (now Tallinn) and particularly Riga being very industrialised. It's apparently easier with a literate workforce; the Lutheran church wouldn't let you get married if you didn't know how to read, whereas the Orthodox church did not care. Lithuania was more rural, and that's one of the main reasons why Estonia and Latvia have sizable Russian populations while Lithuania does not - it proved impossible to plant Russian settlers into villages (Lithuania), but there was much demand for workforce in the industry (Estonia and Latvia).
Around other mayor towns aswell. In Sindi, near Pärnu for example. 😌
The Baltics ditched Russia for European integration long ago. Fixed the title for you. You need to employ better people to write those titles. This isn't the first time a title needs fixing.
Europe uses 50Hz, and I thought Russia uses 50Hz. What is the electrical Hz in the Baltics? What is the electrical Hz in Russia?
I did Google this. It's all 50Hz frequency but because the EU grid is separate from the Russian grid, the two grids are not synchronized. The point of confusion for me is Peter's wording. It's not about a change in frequency, it's all 50Hz. It's about synchronizing the frequency from one grid to another. So there will have to be a grid shutdown to synchronize the Baltic grid to the EU.
50Hz. But Google is your friend ;)
Basically 60Hz means country got electrified by American(Westinghouse) equipment. Soviets definitely weren't so none of the inheritors have it.
Synchronization is the concern.
Vilnius is a nice, peaceful, modern (socially, politically) european city. The only downside is it's a stone's throw from the belarus border. Very isolated from any other major area
also, too many russian speakers
Belarus will likely go west when big L dies, ot if he is stupid enough to intervene in the war
Belarus will go west eventually. The last election the west parties won and military stepped in. Baltic states with Belarus to the south are not so isolated
The frequency will stay unchanged. What will change is how the grid is synchronized and interconnected. Details are complicated so I suggest reading the wikipedia article or if you're so inclined the related articles on utility industry web sites.
This all doesn't matter to consumers - 230V, 50Hz before, 230V, 50Hz after. The wall sockets won't change. No need to know or worry about.
So all this is more of a political thing.
is this video filmed in early 00s?
Nice to see snow in August!
Remember over forty years ago living in Colorado and driving up Rollins pass (in my 1958 hemi powered Dodge Powerwagon!) to go tubing in July.
As I understand this is not change in frequency (they are using 50Hz like rest of Europe and almost all world ;-)) but shifting phase so maximums and minimums of theirs sinuses will be in the same place/moment like for rest of Europe ;-) Similar thing was as I understand done ~2 years ago for Ukraine and at the time it took ~2 months? and was still in emergency mode without a lot of bureaucracy done
I saw Clark play this live when I was in HS. That base line was a gift that has been with me ever since.
Paisagem deslumbrante. Vocé é um sortudo, tão pertinho de Deus! Devo dizer que estou aprendendo muito com seus vídeos. Vocé me ensina, principalmente, a ver a floresta, ao invés de árvores, ao talvez ainda mais longe. Eu tinha dificuldade em entender muitas coisas, por me prender em minúcias, que até tem relevância, mas atrapalha a análise do todo. Muito obrigada! E parabéns por ser americano e valorizar isso. Amo e admiro os Estados Unidos da América. Infelizmente não dei tanta sorte..( longe disso).
Ninguém vai ler um comentário em português nestes vídeos.
@@serafinacosta7118 There is a translate via google. No problemo.
HOpe things are well for you :)
You forget an important infrastructure project: Rail Baltica. From western Europe at high speed to the Baltics, and possibly to Finland.
1:35 - That's not true. Czechia was able to produce own tanks before WWII, Poland was able to produce own tanks, cars, planes.
1:54 - Also not true. The Baltics had their systems designed by Soviet standards because the Baltic states were part of the USSR proper (like Belarus and Ukraine) and Czechia, Poland, Hungary - were independent (technically) states, they were not part of the USSR and they had own standards.
The Eastern Bloc countries were occupied and basically Peter is right about them not being independent during that period of time
*illegally occupied by the USSR.
Thank you. Back in the summer of '22 I gave up trying to correct inaccuracies like these because it had become a full-time job. Insert eye-roll here. 😅
So interesting. You are a treasure - you open up our minds!
I like that the lighting makes it look like Peter is green screened to a backdrop of scenic mountains
Peter is not even real
Moving away from Russia was our goal. Economically it was a painful decision, at least for Lithuania. But it had to be done. Our economy was heavy relient on transit from the EU to Russia. Our logistic sector provided work for around ~400k people, our population is barely ~3million. Thats actually around ~12% of population. Now this sector is shrinking fast, very fast. Similar things happened with other sectors, because it was very common to buy resources from Russia, make stuff here in Lithuania and sell them the products. Wood, metal, agriculture sectors felt a huge blow after the invasion in Ukraine, when they had to shut thier connections for good.
Moving away from BREL(russian electricity connection) was one of the steps, but we also moved away from Russian gas pipes, by building the gas tanker. It was expensive especially for a country with 3million people. I believe Latvia and Estonia are doing the same...
So what I am saying is that we pay a lot for this. Our businesses pay a lot for this. Like a lot really.... Yet look at who is the main providers for Ukraine on % per GDP, we provide what we can as much as we can... While some other bigger countries are crying about 0.3% of defense budget increase and so on...
A nice and concise review as usually. I just want to point out that the frequency states the same i.e. 50Hz the thing which is changing is called frequency synchronization. In more detail, the freqency of the electric network of the Baltic states will be synchronized with the western European network. Presently the frequency synchronization is controlled from Russia.
BTW, the Suwalki gap is not that small at some 80 KMS, not that tiny sliver as you indicated...
The souvlaki gap is small but very tasty.
Bottleneck in military terms
80km is a tiny sliver for Americans, Canadians, Brazilians, Australians… 😂 Peter probably walked 80km in the two days before filming this.
It was his choice of words. Americans have a different sense of proportion and dimensions. Him being from Kansas , well 80 km it is a sliver by their own definition . Fifty miles is a commute by most Americans standards.
@@serafinacosta7118 He's from Iowa, but the point holds .... also, in Western Professional Military terms, "80 Kilometers" is not even of the same order of magnitude as it is to people that must walk into combat, and move supplies from trains to trucks to depots to trucks to local unit supply dumps to smaller trucks or other improvised transport (turtle tanks or mopeds or whatever ...) and the out the end users ..... and every transfer involves theft and waste and graft ..... Americans advance and sustain that advance faster than Russians could ever react.... and the magic is in the LOGISTICS: Russians have a lot of guys on the front just standing around or digging holes ..... there are 4 guys supplying/supporting every front line grunt/tanker/redleg the Americans put out there.... we never run out of anything at crunch time.
Thanks Peter.
Im not an expert but I think industrialization came a bit earlier to the places Peter mentioned
The best background for geopolitics ever!
The Suwalki gap is a sliver of land that connects Kaliningrad to Bularus. I'm amazed how you misspoke with that much confidence.
There is no land connection between Królewiec and Belarus. To go between you have to cross either Polish or Lithuanian border.
When Peter does not know, he just fakes it and pretends that he is well versed in the subject. His assertions about frequency were also wrong. Russia and the rest of Europe are both 50 Hz.
@@FrikInCasualMode if that is true, then the only sliver of land is Kaliningrad.
@@doodleydrool-- Correct. Kaliningrad is the sliver.
I need to fix my sleep schedule. Peter drops a video around 3am here😭
Sweden had industrialization WAAAY before the 1940s WTH.?!?
Thanks Peter. My only wish would be for you to have twirled the camera 180 to see if the view was as spectacular downhill, as it was up 🙃
Su-val-ki gap. Greetings from Lithuania.
Always interesting.
First comment! Kursk is Ukraine.
change your glasses
Well it will be if the Ukrainians keep going. Not sure they want to keep it. Russia is a dump
@@haraldhardrade7539change your currency from rubles to something useful lol 😂
Thank you for showcasing our beautiful country! ❤️
Was there ever a point during the fall of the Soviet Union that Russia could have been like the Baltic countries or even like Poland ?
If elections would've been held like they should've, there could've been a chance. If Putin wouldn't have been so power hungry who knows where Russia might've been led to.. but corruption in the Russian culture has always been present. It would take a herculean effort to even try to steer generations away from that, which will not happen in the coming decades as far as I'm concerned.
Not really. Russia was the guy at the back of the group with a gun to everybody's head. All top soviet leadership was either directly Russian, or had been fully indoctrinated into a "Russia First" mentality.
Non-Russian states in the USSR existed to provide Russia with both a population base for workers and soldiers.. and a physical buffer between Russia and everybody Russia didn't control.
As the USSR started to fracture, soviet military forces were drawn back into an ever shrinking "core" territory. At the end of that separation, there was so much military hardware and manpower stacked up in Russia proper that there was basically no chance for anybody else to survive the attempt to break off more, so that was basically it.
Peter, you need to come west a bit for some of your hikes! Utah and Nevada have some of the most amazing mountains around. Many of them are undiscovered or not as popular as in colorado, but they still deserve attention . This is especially true of the Uintah mountains in Utah.
Lithuanian here with vague ability to run a quick google search.
Lithuania is at 50Hz now, so is Germany and France.
What exactly we are switching in frequency?
You are right, there were people who left after Lithuania became independent on 1990.
Exceptionally few though, and those were russian patriots who truly believed that they came to save Lithuania.
I've lost one friend myself, her family moved to Russia.
Well, propaganda is strong now, even more so back then.
Obviously, small countries can not defend themselves, this is why they unite. That's why we have EU or USA.
Thank you for the publicity.
"Exceptionally few though"
WTF are you smoking? We lost 1/4 of our population to emigration between 1990 and 2020.
Thanks for this information.
You’re several years late here Peter… most of them joined NATO years ago.
Quite a few years already
Dude! Hoover/Yosemite boundary is one of my favorite wilderness areas. Looks like you're close to sawtooth ridge
It seems very improbable now and yet in 10 years we won't recognize Europe. Not only Ukraine but also Belarus(!) will be part of NATO. Main conversation will be not how to defend Baltics but should we defend Russians from Chinese.
This was informative.
A colleague made a recent trip to Lithuania and took a boat trip along the Nemunas river which forms the border between Kaliningrad (insert new name here) and LT. On the whole trip down and back along the river he did not see one person or vehicle on the kaliningrad side. Yes this is a sparcely populated part of the state but not to see anyone only leads me to suspect they've all been dragged off to the front and / or they've left in anticipation of Imminent collaps?
Konigsberg 😉
A travelogue if nothing else! Beautiful!
Industrialization in Sweden started before 1850, not 1940/1950...what's Peter talking about??? He sounds so confident but he gets his facts quite wrong sometimes.
Every video has historical errors
@@djchristian82 No not too early. It's easy to find info on this. Early Industrialization in Sweden started before 1850.
Since the late 1980s, at least in all of the Nordic region, having that conversation has NEVER been thought of as silly.
I have not missed a single clip from Peter for years.
Same! Very informative insight even if it's not always 100% right. A good portion of geopolitics is based on human behaviors which we ALL know is highly unpredictable at times.😆
@@bigchills7194 Yep, russia will invade poland any day now - peter prediction from 2 years ago that they would invade in 3 months from then
What are the biggest things he's wrong about? One thing I've seen him be wrong about consistently is electric cars. The last big thing I saw him very wrong about was him saying Biden was a shoe in for re-election @@bigchills7194
Yes, the Souvlaki gap. Isn't that situated on Crete?
Rather shalow and uninformed comment. Formaly Baltic states are in Northern-East Europe. Second - they didn't experience their first industrialisation during the Soviet occupation. And using the naming "Balts" is simply lowcultured and stupid. Only russkies using it. Would you use "Latinos" while speaking about South America in geopolitical context?
Estonians are not Balts to begin with.
He might actually 😂
@@fricatus well, propbabaly some overrated RUclips snob pretending to be a geopolitician
At the same time, you slur on Russians using the word 'russkies'. Your tone demonstrated what it means to be 'low cultured' and demonstrated typical nationalistic disrespect, supremacy beliefs, and passive aggression we've already seen somewhere. Moreover, it is very clear to everyone who is familiar with the Russian context how current Baltic nationalist practices are similar to current Kremlin ones. Just a mirror! I mean, one country deported 70+ senior beyond the border with no personal items, divided him from his family, and left him without any help. One school principal was fired for citing a historical book recently. Guess which governments did that? I am not against the people of the Baltic states-ppeace for them! They are beautiful people and deserve prosperity. But the hatred and stupidity of the nationalists are above all reasonable limits. And when they reach decision-making... uh oh...
But remember he definitely knows when a nation is going to collapse... riiiiiight
Love your series but could you talk about hiking and how you find these trails? Do you hike with a group? Do you fly to various trips? What about risks on trails like falling off cliff trails? How do you deal with these risks? Thanks!
There's so many professional hiking vlogs, trainers, businesses out there.
Russia...230v 50Hz
Latvia .. 230v 50Hz
Lithuania 230v 50Hz
Estonia 230v 50Hz
I think Peter needs to look at his facts.. this is the European standard today.
Thanks & greetings from Estonia - all true
Balts had industrialisation before the Soviets. Under the Soviets it just happened at much larger scale, because of mass influx of people from other Soviet republics which were sent there to achieve certain things, including Russificatian.
I would not say the industrialization was in larger scale. Most fabrics worked on pre Soviet equipment, that Russia did not steal. Electricity was produced in much larger scale ( in Estonia) but most of it went to Leningrad.
great video
first!!!!!!!! hii peter! been a fan since i was in highschool watching you and robert kaplan and ian bremmer! huge influance and extreamly smart !
You graduated?!?
Unfortunately this video is uninformed and straight up full of false or misleading information. A lot of people in the comments already pointed a lot of things out.
TLDR: Baltics regained independence in 1991, are part of EU and NATO since 2004 (20 years), are located in Northern Europe
Lithuanians and Latvians are Balts, Estonians and Finns are Finnic
Baltic grids have been connected to Sweden and Finland for more than a decade now. We trade electricity on the NordPool market. We are just now desynchronising from Russia - meaning if the grid experiences instability, we have our own compensators to compensate for that (been buying this service from Russia till now).
Sweden and Baltics industrialised way before what was claimed.
Thank you for an excellent analysis
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Actually industrialization in Baltic countries started already, when we where under Tsardom of Russia and other modern practices was implemented even before them. Russia conquered our countries after Great Northern war in 18th century. All the soviets did - they restored, only in their own twisted image, what they themselves and Nazis destroyed.