China’s Tariff Wars: The EU Opens a New Front || Peter Zeihan

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • *This video was recorded in June of 2024.
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Комментарии • 1,4 тыс.

  • @Mark-s7d6l
    @Mark-s7d6l Месяц назад +394

    Peter, if you or your staff read this:
    I was in Home Depot yesterday, and I noticed that most of the appliances are going back to rotary knobs, like we had 40 years ago. Washers, dryers, stoves, and some refrigerators, have rotary dials, lamps, and no cheap, fuzzy LCD screens that need full light to read. My take is that the appliance manufacturers either can't get Chinese touch panels or that it is now cheaper or more parts availability secure to go back to knobs. Personally, I am delighted and hope the same thing happens to automobiles.

    • @espesq
      @espesq Месяц назад +77

      can we relearn to twist, when all we know is push?

    • @markn8535
      @markn8535 Месяц назад +47

      Well there's been a push for retro design in furniture and appliances the last 15 years

    • @jeffthebaptist3602
      @jeffthebaptist3602 Месяц назад +31

      Could be, but it is also possible the manufacturers are going to cheaper units because of the state of the current economy.

    • @philipgates988
      @philipgates988 Месяц назад +46

      The reputation for reliability is poor. So the manufacturers are mimicking older machines, which are seen as superior to the newer machines. The electronic boards are still there.

    • @Buckaroomedic
      @Buckaroomedic Месяц назад +19

      Actually heard a customer at Lowes ask specifically for the old fashion controls

  • @billc6762
    @billc6762 Месяц назад +308

    China is a developed country. China imposes 218% tariff on Australian wine. Tariffs on Chinese goods should start at 218%.

    • @mouseisbroken
      @mouseisbroken Месяц назад +42

      China is a dead poor developing country, it is arguably one of the poorest countries north east asia. It will remain a developing 3rd world country for the 100 years to come.

    • @charliegil2007
      @charliegil2007 Месяц назад

      China is not a developed country LOL. Why do people feel so much confidence when they write on the internet?

    • @optinoptimist
      @optinoptimist Месяц назад +45

      lol, first of all, the chinese tariff on australian wine was removed. second of all, wine is a luxury good, and an intoxicant, and by no means do any countries need to even allow it on their markets, let alone allow it on their markets at a competitive price.
      australia can stop trading with china whenever it wants, oh never mind, it NEEDS chinese goods lol
      yall should be putting more tariffs on chinese products, but instead you're removing tariffs through chafta, cause you can't make your own stuff cheap enough for your own ppl to buy it.
      if the tariffs on chinese goods was at 218 percent, then you'd quickly see that most of your fellow countrymen wouldn't be able to afford nearly as many goods and services as they did before you put the tariffs on...
      i get your point, i get your frustration, but things just aren't that simple. it's a complex world and complexity can't be swept away with a snide, ill informed, youtube comment.
      i believe the CCP is horrible by the standards i'd like to have for the leadership of a country. they're racist, they're imperialists, they literally think the chinese should be the rulers of the world, and even the rulers of outer space, like they actually think they have a rightful and just claim to rule, and supersede, others because they are better.
      now, tbf, many countries like to take that approach lol, it's one that my own country, the US, has often been accused of taking, and perhaps those accusations are founded.
      that being said, i specifically dislike the authoritarianism and social control china tries to implement, again, i guess they're not unique in this, but they are extreme in it.
      anyway, what i'm trying to say is that i'm on your side, but dealing with china requires high level complexity if we want to obtain the best outcomes with the least drama and war.

    • @deezeed2817
      @deezeed2817 Месяц назад

      American manufacturing has shrunk for several months straight. If Zeihan thinks America is in a good position then he’s dreaming

    • @struggler8083
      @struggler8083 Месяц назад +9

      Lmfao these boomers are hilarious

  • @UltimateDan1
    @UltimateDan1 Месяц назад +163

    Should’ve happened a long time ago. China heavily tariffs cars made in the US & EU.

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o Месяц назад

      The only cars exported from the USA are European or Japanese owned brands, US brands are junk and other than Tesla no one buys them.
      US made is junk no one wants them.

    • @joekertesz8470
      @joekertesz8470 Месяц назад

      Are you talking out of your ass?China buys close to 40% of all European cars. American not so much. Who wants that junk?

    • @TheVeritas2100
      @TheVeritas2100 Месяц назад +12

      that's what Trump has been PROMOTING since 2016 !
      Viva Trump! MAGA for ever !

    • @JoeBleaux69
      @JoeBleaux69 Месяц назад

      He said USA should suck it up not go tit for tat

    • @allenl9214
      @allenl9214 Месяц назад +1

      Thanks to grandpa Biden who doesn't just talk but puts things into action

  • @robertbanning6393
    @robertbanning6393 Месяц назад +49

    Welcome to New Mexico, your explanations are my daily schooling in global economics

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 Месяц назад

      Trade war is foolish Anti Capitalism.

    • @walhdamaskus2408
      @walhdamaskus2408 Месяц назад +8

      Congratulation, u just have been screwed up. 😂

    • @DevelopmentProjects-ei2bi
      @DevelopmentProjects-ei2bi Месяц назад +5

      He has some interesting thoughts but clueless about certain things, and completely wrong about Bitcoin.

    • @NorCalMoDo
      @NorCalMoDo Месяц назад +1

      Global economy from new Mexico. Isn't it a bit remote? It will be a stretch to understand California from new Mexico.

    • @Mike-bc7xv
      @Mike-bc7xv Месяц назад +1

      I pity you

  • @angusabbott5615
    @angusabbott5615 Месяц назад +85

    “mid to low quality” is a great description of Chinese goods , most should be subject to a landfill tax before entry is even considered

    • @ItsJoKeZ
      @ItsJoKeZ Месяц назад +9

      even better "copied to low quality" products

    • @akbeal
      @akbeal Месяц назад +2

      mostly junk is true

    • @masx4468
      @masx4468 Месяц назад +5

      Junk tier and toxic food.

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 Месяц назад

      Throw your iPhone away, freak.

    • @Cynicruss2
      @Cynicruss2 Месяц назад +4

      Maglev trains, 5g, EVs. I remember when people thought Japanese were mid to low quality. 😂😂😂

  • @kellrik66
    @kellrik66 Месяц назад +64

    A plane at 30,000 is a lot louder when you are already at 12,000.

    • @TheBeingReal
      @TheBeingReal Месяц назад +4

      That was a prop plane, probably not at 30,000’ based on airspace classification and the very limited number of GA prop planes capable of flying that high.

    • @kellrik66
      @kellrik66 Месяц назад +2

      @@TheBeingReal so even closer

    • @drcovell
      @drcovell Месяц назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @peterkiviat9969
    @peterkiviat9969 Месяц назад +12

    Mr. Zeihan conveniently ignores the fact that Chinese quality and safety standards for electric vehicles are considerably lower than ours. BYD electric cars erupting in flames is a rather common occurrence in China. I'm not talking about when they're in accidents. I talking about when they are parked on the street or in garages.

    • @drcovell
      @drcovell Месяц назад

      Yeah, *brand new* BYDs explode in showrooms!
      Seriously, WTF?
      Wouldn’t buy ANY large Li-ion battery, 2KVA+, made in China.

    • @kolviczd6885
      @kolviczd6885 Месяц назад +4

      Nicely brainwashed. Congratulations 😉🎉

    • @kamsunleong6648
      @kamsunleong6648 Месяц назад

      Delusional. Why do you think Biden had to rush to impose 100% tariff as protection. Eventhough there is no Chinese ev selling there. He has to protect his own from far better built and more affordable Chinese imports. High tariffs are for those who can't compete and know they can't.

    • @thewiseone7286
      @thewiseone7286 Месяц назад

      If BYD's cars are burning, why does 80% of the world buying BYD?

    • @WeAretheWorld89
      @WeAretheWorld89 18 дней назад

      You witnessed them yourself or just trolling? Any proof? No I am not from China

  • @superdave8320
    @superdave8320 Месяц назад +9

    Chinese BYD vehicles are now better than Tesla with many more modern features. The real issue is they start at$12k and the model that competes in US is only 30K. Category killer.

    • @spirro-eg1yl
      @spirro-eg1yl Месяц назад +1

      Uh no they are not, but what do I know besides being an electrical engineer….

    • @garyp7580
      @garyp7580 Месяц назад +1

      I don't think those vehicles will ever touch American soil

    • @rxshred
      @rxshred Месяц назад +1

      If you think Chinese made electric vehicles are better than Tesla, you need to go do some more research.

    • @justicar5
      @justicar5 Месяц назад

      ​@@rxshredgiven what a complete pile of crap the Cybertruck is, I wouldn't be surprised if they are better, not because they are super advanced, just that they aren't ruined by a delusional ketamin junkie

    • @Wvdoctorz68965
      @Wvdoctorz68965 10 дней назад

      Chinese culture does not have the quality first approach. If it looks the same and does the same but cheaper, that is the one to buy. They manufacture products a cheaply as possible and focus on making it look like the products they are cloning. If it looks like the real product and it works, that is considered ok in China as long as they can sell it as inexpensive as possible. Their quality is1/2 that of the Japanese product but the price is only 1/4. So people buy it because it is cheap rather than better quality. I was from Hong Kong.

  • @mikehewitt1766
    @mikehewitt1766 Месяц назад +16

    Peter I don’t know if you are aware of this but maybe 8 or so years ago china purchased Smithfield farms, the largest pork producer in the USA by far. I don’t know much about Smithfield since they are not located in my area but there are some very large operations based in my area. They run about 800,000 sows which is double what the number two hog producer runs. Chinas hog herd is double the size of the US herd and as you stated wildly inefficient, everything from backyard pigs to 8 story building full of pigs. The US exports 1 out of every 5 rows of soybeans to China for their hogs to eat. Losing that market is going to hurt but back when Trump put on the trade taxes China quickly found out they could not get enough soybeans from anywhere else so they bought South American beans and the USA suddenly started exporting to SouthAmerica which is a rare occurrence normally.

  • @JCT442
    @JCT442 Месяц назад +39

    If BYD buys Chrysler and builds EVs in America under Chinese ownership there goes your tariffs...

    • @Leto2ndAtreides
      @Leto2ndAtreides Месяц назад +20

      As with TikTok, once the government decides to abuse its power, it doesn't matter how above board someone's game is. New laws can be made. Laws can be changed. Anyone can be punished under the umbrella of "national security".

    • @quantumbacon
      @quantumbacon Месяц назад +8

      Do you mean those cars that track a person's face, all adjacent pedestrian faces, along with the GPS location?
      I can see that getting awkward.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад +10

      Buying Chrysler means either buying the brand owned by Stellantis , or buying the holding itself. Citroen , Peugeot , Fiat, Opel, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep/Ram, Vaxhuall .

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Месяц назад +2

      Since it's mostly about staying ahead of the Chinese technology-wise, and about preserving jobs and manufacturing capability....
      BYD buying American plants on paper would not be a problem.
      (perhaps the spyware inside of them, or corporate tracking being uploaded to server in Beijing would - but that is something you can outlaw, as a national government)

    • @m1l3s27
      @m1l3s27 Месяц назад

      ​@@quantumbaconTesla is already planning on doing that and GM, Honda and others have already been caught selling your driving data (like GPS) to third parties. Not saying I support the Chinese, just that none of these companies should be allowed to do this crap.

  • @crosslink1493
    @crosslink1493 Месяц назад +44

    6:15 The term 'Smart light bulb'; some things just don't need a semiconductor inside them.
    Peter, if you read these, have you heard anything about financial problems at Huawei? They've been doing a lot of bond sales this year with some odd yields, and the bonds are unsecured. Rumor is they're having big financial problems and the bonds are something of a 'cover' for the CCP to use instead of just doing the normal looting of banks and accounts of the few profitable industries in China to keep them afloat.

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Месяц назад +13

      Interesting. What kind rates are being offered? I hadn’t heard of this. I was an expat in Asia for 15 years in the telecom industry during the rise of Huawei. They were about as sleazy as they come so if they are in financial trouble it couldn’t happen to better bunch of crooks.

    • @SonnyBubba
      @SonnyBubba Месяц назад

      A long time ago, Backpage was also in print. They would buy up a full page in various weekly newspapers and ran classified ads on it. (They were literally the back page of the weekly magazine)
      Among the typical ads they ran (massage parlors, DUI defense lawyers, single and looking, etc) Huawei decided that was the publication to take out a large ad (about the size of 15-20 ads in big red print) advertise a job position for RF engineers (?!?)

    • @easonhuang7117
      @easonhuang7117 Месяц назад +4

      Huawei issued 1 billion yuan of bond with a yield of 2.83% which is super low for corporate bond, and it is lower than the cost of borrowing from the bank. It not only shows the good credit of Huawei but also helps Huawei to finance its money at lower cost.

    • @MrNicoJac
      @MrNicoJac Месяц назад

      Actually, light bulbs are the only things in my house that I do like to be "smart"
      It saves me having to change all switches over to dimmable turning knobs, and I love being able to not only dim but also change the color temperature by my phone.
      I draw the line at everything being turned on or off by voice commands though...
      At least now, if the app or wifi gets busted, I still have the physical switches.
      And I could see how turning the thermostat down while on vacation, or turning the AC on before you come back home, could be useful to other people.
      But apart from that, I think those Internet Of Things items are a risk and a waste and a hassle...!

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Месяц назад +6

      @@easonhuang7117 No that doesn’t show good credit, that shows that it’s an inside job, specifically for Chinese citizens that have nothing better to do with their cash particularly given the collapse of the residential real estate market. No one outside of China would invest in a Yuen denominated corporate bond that pays 2/3 the rate of a US T-bill/note

  • @johnduguid
    @johnduguid Месяц назад +22

    "Gallium and Germanium, which are two not rare earth metals but rare metals". Look at you go, Mr. Periodic Table!!

  • @cognisant307
    @cognisant307 Месяц назад +53

    The problem with Chinese EVs is that they have poor quality control, and poor quality control for a car sized bank of lithium batteries is absolutely unacceptable.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Месяц назад

      You're dated caveman.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад +1

      True.

    • @kennethkong5484
      @kennethkong5484 Месяц назад +8

      Sour grapes . Where is your EV

    • @smdanny1
      @smdanny1 Месяц назад +4

      @@kennethkong5484 is it better to have bad EVs or to have no EVs?

    • @funnyflaneur
      @funnyflaneur Месяц назад +6

      How to say you are German without saying you are German ;)

  • @TheGreatOceanDisasterAquariums
    @TheGreatOceanDisasterAquariums Месяц назад +3

    Isn't the reality that the USA and UK just want to keep their prices high rather than allow choice? I find it amusing that countries want to push a climate agenda but keep the price out of reach for the majority.

  • @MikeM-cb7xv
    @MikeM-cb7xv Месяц назад +12

    And yet China is the largest trading partner to more than 120 countries.

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o Месяц назад +10

      Don’t let facts stand in the way of this guy, he just spouts endless garbage.

    • @muhammadswalih8923
      @muhammadswalih8923 Месяц назад +6

      And don't forget all those nations are developing and growing. Unlike declining west.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Месяц назад

      @@user-tt6il2up4o
      You can't upset, sour 🍇

  • @boogiewoogie613
    @boogiewoogie613 Месяц назад +2

    The attention to detail and the editing at the beginning to make sure it’s right is fantastic
    Now I can find it on a map

  • @unrealsfx_official
    @unrealsfx_official Месяц назад +67

    Hey Peter, you turned 800.000, congrats!!

    • @papershark
      @papershark Месяц назад +6

      Now you play that forward one year... you get 1 million subscribers.

    • @Joker-yw9hl
      @Joker-yw9hl Месяц назад +2

      Holy crap 800k.

    • @GameplayAddict
      @GameplayAddict Месяц назад +8

      Man, is he old!!!

    • @lasagnapig630
      @lasagnapig630 Месяц назад +5

      that explains where all his knowledge comes from! my man predates the existence of homo sapiens!

    • @mercster
      @mercster Месяц назад

      Yep, with lines like "i kNeW iT wAs sOmE dEaD wHiTe gUy" , he really impresses the Internet. Man, he's so self-hating and cynical, yay!

  • @balaclavabob001
    @balaclavabob001 Месяц назад +2

    I love reading the comments on your videos . It's like a training ground for russian and Chinese trolls lol Personally I prefer non EV vehicles but we should be ditching combustion engines for anything other than recreation ( like horses ) . The problem with Chinese EVs is that they do like to burst into flames at the drop of a hat . Some of the videos coming out of China are horrific .

  • @TorBoy9
    @TorBoy9 Месяц назад +12

    The wolf warrior is now wimpering. CN should not have so angered their customers. Dumb, dumb move for anyone.

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 Месяц назад

      The redneck politicians in DC are not the Chinese's customers, apparently.

    • @michaelswaim9428
      @michaelswaim9428 Месяц назад

      Basically Trump 101 by the OP

    • @aburetik4866
      @aburetik4866 28 дней назад

      You just go buy your American over-priced junk. Nobody cares about it.

  • @eddios9018
    @eddios9018 Месяц назад +4

    Well Zeihan good luck to America and Europe

  • @DeadsupraEE3
    @DeadsupraEE3 Месяц назад +18

    90nm is what you put in a smart bulb ? A modified bitcoin miner…. For chip fabrication ? Can we get some sources?

    • @kennethkong5484
      @kennethkong5484 Месяц назад +1

      So uneducated. That’s what they put in their cell phones

    • @ChartJS-tutorials
      @ChartJS-tutorials Месяц назад

      Sometimes I wonder if he knows something what others don't. As I see a completely different picture here specifically in the semi conductor market based from someone else: ruclips.net/video/SHpzzaaI-20/видео.html&ab_channel=InsideChinaBusiness

    • @karatsurba4791
      @karatsurba4791 Месяц назад

      It feels as if he meets the US propaganda machine to know what he shld put out. The guy has never been to China n talks to Americans to know about it 😄. I hope his sources r better than those who claimed Iraq had WMD. 😄

    • @rajahua6268
      @rajahua6268 Месяц назад +1

      Yeh, great research Peter.

    • @serwombles8816
      @serwombles8816 Месяц назад

      My source is that I made it the F up

  • @DecemberNames
    @DecemberNames Месяц назад +1

    This never gets old 💯💯💯. Keep it coming‼️‼️‼️

  • @quantumbacon
    @quantumbacon Месяц назад +7

    In UK we expect human food to carry a country of origin label. it would be strange to see unprocessed pork arrive from anywhere beyond Europe.
    tinned pork or dog food, would be less likely labelled with a country of origin, but I'd bet if there was a supply battle issue then many producers would make a bigger deal out of EU/UK labelling.

    • @VTh-f5x
      @VTh-f5x Месяц назад

      A lot of uk meat comes from eastern europe out of chinese owned slaughter houses with chinese workers equipment.

  • @sanderdegurra9002
    @sanderdegurra9002 Месяц назад +1

    These tariff is not hurting China. The people paying these tariff to the US government are the US Citizens. It’s really a huge tax increase for the average Americans disguised as a tariff on China.

  • @jerryrichardson2799
    @jerryrichardson2799 Месяц назад +3

    I saw a video by EPB Research, here on RUclips, that said the same thing Peter has been saying for years now: China will collapse by 2030 due to a combination of debt and demographic issues, _no_ reference to Peter in the report and the graphs are compelling. Demographics is _the_ leading indicator of economic performance over five years and longer.

    • @sceliano
      @sceliano Месяц назад +3

      Yea... but P sad it for decades not years. Actually he sad it would happen by 2020. He's entertainer. He is current on a lot subjects but ridiculously biased in reading the data. He oftentimes uses fringe research if it will help his theories. Dont get me wrong, I've been following him for a very, very long time and i do appreciate him because he often intrigued me to find out more about subject but he is not serious analyst. His main ingredients are shock value and 'murica. It's great for what it is and his stock is rising a bit with prominence of new YT geopolitical shows and content i just can't take him seriously. His predictions or "informed guesses" are basically coin flips so far.

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 Месяц назад +2

    When we thought China was an ally, we allowed them to corner the market on rare metals. When China tried to exploit that monopoly, it inspired other countries to ramp up their own production. Everything is backfiring on China lately.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад +1

      Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  • @drplasmodius
    @drplasmodius Месяц назад +42

    You forgot that China bought American producer Smithfield

    • @daveton9033
      @daveton9033 Месяц назад +5

      Most importantly ,at the time and resulted in the delisting of "Smithfield", which used to trade on the New York Stock Exchange.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Месяц назад

      more tariffs, sanctions only tell me the US EU is aging rapidly, can't compete, and the ponzi conomy, fiat dollar is DONE! SHOWS the globe the US EU are terrorist of the poor. Eventually, US EU will eat each other to the bone!

    • @dynamicascension981
      @dynamicascension981 Месяц назад +4

      That’s a little depressing

    • @blafonovision4342
      @blafonovision4342 Месяц назад +6

      The USA can always nationalize it.

    • @protorhinocerator142
      @protorhinocerator142 Месяц назад

      @@blafonovision4342 If we go to war, what's to stop the USA from nationalizing all the Chinese debt?
      All that money we owe China? Balance is now zero. Have a nice day.
      Literally nothing the Chinese could do about it.

  • @Pgprince86
    @Pgprince86 8 дней назад +1

    Come on Peter, you, myself, and everyone who took an intro to macroeconomics course in college know that tariffs (i.e., a tax) are passed onto the consumer in the form of higher prices. Therefore, tariffs imposed on Chinese EVs or any other goods of that matter will not hurt the Chinese economy, only the American consumer will pay the price;literally and figuratively speaking.

  • @ewok40k
    @ewok40k Месяц назад +22

    I fully expect EU to reshore vast majority of mid-tech manufactiring from China to places like Poland, Romania, Turkey - oh and Ukraine if it gets peace with Russia one day.

    • @emceeboogieboots1608
      @emceeboogieboots1608 Месяц назад +1

      🤞

    • @festekj
      @festekj Месяц назад +2

      All the countries you named are unable to manufacturer mid-tech goods except perhaps Turkey

    • @orionbetelgeuse1937
      @orionbetelgeuse1937 Месяц назад +1

      and power them with solar panels and windmills? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @viciouswaffle
      @viciouswaffle Месяц назад

      @@festekj Why is Poland not able to manufacture mid-tech?

    • @festekj
      @festekj Месяц назад +3

      @@viciouswaffle wages are too expensive to be cost effective. It has nothing to do with ability, but rather with practicality. Poland uses the Euro and has high wages. Unless they can somehow automate the whole process, well, it is not practical to produce them in Poland. The EV factories in Hungary are predominantly automated using Chinese manufacturing capabilities. Its important to note that all the parts are made in china to be assembled in Hungary. No automobile manufacturer has been able to automate factories like the Chinese with the exception of Telsa. And even Telsa axed the project in Germany due to high energy costs. Only Hungary benefits from low energy costs, well, that is until Ukraine shut off the valve

  • @MarcRogoff
    @MarcRogoff Месяц назад +1

    It would seem that the Chinese have improved their chipmaking capabilities: As of 2024, Chinese semiconductor manufacturers have achieved significant advancements in chip production technology. Semiconductor Manufacturing International Corporation (SMIC), one of China's leading chip manufacturers, has developed the capability to produce chips at 14 nm and has been working on more advanced nodes. There are reports of SMIC producing chips at the 7 nm node and making strides towards 5 nm, although these advancements are not yet at the same level of commercial maturity and volume production as seen with leading global competitors like TSMC and Samsung.
    In summary, the Chinese semiconductor industry is capable of producing chips at:
    - 14 nanometers
    - 7 nanometers (limited and emerging capabilities)
    - Progress towards 5 nanometers (in development)

  • @jhrusa8125
    @jhrusa8125 Месяц назад +27

    Always happy when Peter's not talking American politics.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Месяц назад

      your scared when he does if he tells the truth. PZ is a propagandist! more tariffs, sanctions only tell me the US EU is aging rapidly, can't compete, and the ponzi conomy, fiat dollar is DONE! SHOWS the globe the US EU are terrorist of the poor. Eventually, US EU will eat each other to the bone!

    • @JP-iq7pu
      @JP-iq7pu Месяц назад +1

      Agrreed

    • @ironwoodworkman4917
      @ironwoodworkman4917 Месяц назад +1

      Is that what he is doing? I thought he was playing in the woods and pimping out deep state swamp propaganda.
      You can clearly see how hard he works collecting all that data.
      Oh! that's right. You NEVER see him in the office or even with a PC looking up this data. Funny that.
      But he sure looks cool in the wood. This will make the masses believe him. The CIA thinks.

    • @seymorefact4333
      @seymorefact4333 Месяц назад

      PZ propagandist tells you want you want hear. But, more tariffs, sanctions only tell me the US EU is aging rapidly, can't compete, and the ponzi conomy, fiat dollar is DONE! SHOWS the globe the US EU are terrorist of the poor. Eventually, US EU will eat each other to the bone!

    • @steves3422
      @steves3422 Месяц назад +1

      Geopolitics includes USA too -- but I, too, prefer only negative analysis about other guys.....

  • @SMarkGee
    @SMarkGee Месяц назад +1

    Love the planes coming over. It's been a while since they were a mainstream of Peter's videos ;-)

  • @TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer
    @TheVoiceofTheProphetElizer Месяц назад +27

    You know, when Dorroile Stansgaard talked about "the fundamentals of trade", one of the things he mentioned was a concept called "tax-advantaged tariff swaps", something which can get a little....esoteric....to be certain, but which absolutely underpins the modern notion that "there's no such thing as a bad resource". Well, turns out, there is - and certainly no shortage of them. One need only look to the exotic metallics and gasides needed to construct an electric future in order to understand that the tears shed today will be tomorrow's drinking source. It is quite frankly undesirable.

    • @zibbitybibbitybop
      @zibbitybibbitybop Месяц назад

      The hard material reality is that somebody, somewhere, is gonna have to do an absurd amount of mining and processing if the world wants to electrify everything. The West likes to pretend that isn't necessary so long as the environmental damage happens in China or Chile or wherever, but that's a delusion that I think is finally beginning to evaporate. Now we'll see how strong people's resolve really is, and my guess is that it's insufficient. None of the emissions goals will come close to being met, and we'll only get there when the tech improves someday.

  • @SingularisVisum
    @SingularisVisum Месяц назад +24

    😢 Speak about the situation in Venezuela please 🙏

    • @dynamicascension981
      @dynamicascension981 Месяц назад +3

      He can talk about it. Nothing will change until people decide to fight.

    • @bonkersblock
      @bonkersblock Месяц назад

      Venezuela will seize to be a nation within a decade! He already talked about Venezuela! Venezuela cannot extract oil and process it without western tools and expertise! That’s why maduro is giving it for free to China! Second, Venezuelan oil is hard to refine, you need a specific type of refinery to convert it to energy, refinery that is western proprietary, not Chinese or Russian, so there is no need to talk about Venezuela unless it pulls itself out off its own ass! 😂

  • @beatonthedonis
    @beatonthedonis Месяц назад +3

    Apparently we don't care about climate change, free markets etc as we say we do.

    • @rjwiechman
      @rjwiechman Месяц назад +1

      Free markets are great. When it comes to China, however, there's no such thing as 'free trade'.

  • @Bizzaarts
    @Bizzaarts Месяц назад +1

    Hi can you please talk about what's happening in the UK and what the future might look like for the uk

  • @alexyeung4491
    @alexyeung4491 Месяц назад +1

    You may need to look at data more precisely. BYD sales volume in Brazil is already bigger than all Chinese EV's sales volume in Europe. Do you think developing countries will impose tariffs?

  • @GHST995
    @GHST995 Месяц назад +35

    Peter, but I love my Swine! Chops grilled, fried, breaded, sliced, chopped.

    • @gror7849
      @gror7849 Месяц назад +3

      Its my favourite vegetable as well!

    • @conchfritters01
      @conchfritters01 Месяц назад +2

      And the best pork in the world comes from Iowa - Peter knows, he’s from Marshalltown.

    • @seymourbutts4654
      @seymourbutts4654 Месяц назад

      smoked

    • @AnhTrieu90
      @AnhTrieu90 Месяц назад +2

      Diversify your protein sources, bro.
      Our ancestors didn’t spend millions of years climbing to the top of the food chain for us to only eat one animal.

    • @GHST995
      @GHST995 Месяц назад

      @@AnhTrieu90 Touche. I never said I didn't enjoy everything else. Only thing I think I don't like that I've tried is that black ink pasta. Idk if it was sea urchin or something else in it.

  • @keithunderwood6205
    @keithunderwood6205 Месяц назад +2

    Slight correction.....China has all of the leverage.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      Oh yeah, they're absolutely overleveraged in every sector.

    • @pikachus5m166
      @pikachus5m166 7 дней назад

      ​@@pyrioncelendilNot to the tune of $36 TRILLION.

  • @jasonbarnes4488
    @jasonbarnes4488 Месяц назад +5

    What about china's ownership of smithfield a major producer of pork products in the US. So do they ship any of that back to China or is that a way to take over the US system?

    • @crosslink1493
      @crosslink1493 Месяц назад

      I'd almost say some rich Chinese folks bought it to get their capital out of China. They don't really care if they sell pork to Americans or Chinese consumers, they just want to preserve their wealth.

  • @glennl70
    @glennl70 Месяц назад

    I've never heard of this gentleman. Don't know what algorithm brought me here, but I'm very impressed with his knowledge and speaking ability. I will definitely look for more of your podcasts.
    BTW, where does your information come from ? What do you glean ?

  • @drkrbrown
    @drkrbrown Месяц назад +8

    Must be an ICE plane. An EV plane would be silent😂

    • @crosslink1493
      @crosslink1493 Месяц назад

      I was thinking it was one of those planes that tow advertising banners along popular beaches during the summer months. Those things are mucho loud! But I don't think those can fly as high as Peter is hiking.

    • @Mark-s7d6l
      @Mark-s7d6l Месяц назад

      @@drkrbrown nobody eats EV ceram.

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 Месяц назад

      Because it would stay on the ground unable to lift its own batteries necessary for more than a few minutes of flight…
      Non-engineers are so in the dark about everything, it’s amazing. Now you are fascinated by the fraud AI and EVs…

  • @Chrisjude100
    @Chrisjude100 Месяц назад +2

    US and EU tariffs on Chinese goods do NOT hit China. They hit non-Chinese (e.g. US and EU) taxpayers, whether consumers or manufacturers.

  • @GameChanger-cr4hx
    @GameChanger-cr4hx Месяц назад +3

    Should start talking about the $35 Trillion debt and increasing.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад +1

      Plus the $120 trillion on unfunded liabilities. Owed to social security and Medicare recipients. And don’t forget cities and states debt.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      If you know anything about Peter Zeihan and his lectures, he'll gloss over American public debt as inconsequential due to one simple fact: it's the world's reserve currency, so it can pretty much get away with endless debt simply because three quarters of the currency is used for resolving trade. And if you try to drag out the old chestnut of BRICS doing their annual nattering over trying to create a petrodollar alternative, we'll all just have a good laugh at your expense.

  • @matdddd
    @matdddd Месяц назад +2

    It’s a good thing. It’ll help speed up the inevitable. I think in the future will just look back at this time thinking why did we create such a massive carbon footprint creating these stupid cars Electric in the first place

  • @JamesCrouchX
    @JamesCrouchX Месяц назад +17

    I spend a lot of time in the forest. I was a Ford dealership a while back. There was a monstrous black and chrome F-150 Lightning plugged in. I kept walking thinking yaaaaa, no.

  • @bryceehret8149
    @bryceehret8149 Месяц назад

    How are you everywhere I grew up and talking about the thing I nerd out on the most

  • @NorthernContrarian
    @NorthernContrarian Месяц назад +8

    He'd never dare to say "named after some dead black guy" like that. His political and bias slips through more and more by the week.

    • @HughJass-jv2lt
      @HughJass-jv2lt Месяц назад +4

      😂😂
      Don't be such a ❄❄

    • @Justmekpc
      @Justmekpc Месяц назад

      What mountains is named after some dead black guy?
      It’s just a fact almost mountains are named after some dead white guy and I’m just an old white guy

    • @stephenderry9488
      @stephenderry9488 Месяц назад +1

      I think the point is there aren't a huge number of things named after some dead black guy so it's not an issue that will ever really come up. Subtle reminders of how white privilege is all around us, even in our geography, is probably something only hardcore white supremacists will get irked by. And that's not a bad thing.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад +1

      Do we actually have any mountains named after dead black guys? 🤔

  • @silentlandthousandvoices
    @silentlandthousandvoices Месяц назад +2

    A pun so unintentional even its creator laughs in surprise.

  • @1Rene9Night5cart0
    @1Rene9Night5cart0 Месяц назад +10

    I wish i had 1or 2 pair of shades like Geo-political genius Peter Zeihan's.

    • @MrSimonw58
      @MrSimonw58 Месяц назад +3

      chinese shop

    • @OakleyMoodie
      @OakleyMoodie Месяц назад +1

      I think the man has separate closets for sunglasses and funky winter hats!

  • @wahlumng5192
    @wahlumng5192 Месяц назад +2

    Why the need for tariff when China is collapsing like you said

  • @airhead2741
    @airhead2741 Месяц назад +4

    Love the glasses tho :D

  • @seanlander9321
    @seanlander9321 Месяц назад +2

    The Chinese are still learning who runs the world, and it’s not them.

  • @OneTrueKing23
    @OneTrueKing23 Месяц назад +6

    “All Biden has to do to win is not die”
    - Peter Zeihan 2024

    • @eokeuz
      @eokeuz Месяц назад

      FJB and Obamala.

  • @xxdd4432
    @xxdd4432 Месяц назад +1

    Didn’t china buy Smithfield? How would that tariff work?

  • @alanccvoo
    @alanccvoo Месяц назад +6

    its just a minor setback for the Chinese .. there other countries that are willing to buy from the Chinese , as long the product is good why not... this give the other country cost advantages

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад +1

      Difficulty: "so long as the product is good." 😆🤣

    • @alanccvoo
      @alanccvoo Месяц назад +1

      @@pyrioncelendil Chinese products is already in your house

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      @@alanccvoo And how's that working out for China right now, hm? Getting their products in my house, is that helping them not circle the drain? Cuz they're circling the drain.

  • @randomstring4089
    @randomstring4089 Месяц назад +2

    I normally agree with what you say but That 90nm capability and bitcoin miner modification sound a bit bs to me, please provide source or this will impact your credibility on any other topic.

  • @musasani4345
    @musasani4345 Месяц назад +6

    Please pick one of the Nigerian issues. Dollar scarcity, corruption, NNPCL, population, economic hardship, protest, Bokoharam and bandits, malnutrition, northern Nigeria conflict, yahoo boys, division in politics btwn south and north, Biafra. Looters, inflation...

    • @Fanta....
      @Fanta.... Месяц назад +1

      @@jmcw9632 kek

    • @bm8641
      @bm8641 Месяц назад

      Nigeria is a failed state. Pretty much like Afghanistan only with a lot of oil

  • @Sgt_Major
    @Sgt_Major Месяц назад

    you can tell how smart people are by how much they agree with you...

  • @raynash4748
    @raynash4748 Месяц назад +10

    Great News! Double the tariffs!!!!

    • @Lawrence-sk2os
      @Lawrence-sk2os Месяц назад +1

      It is great news!!!!! :)

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Месяц назад +1

      Tariffs are making American pay more. Make America poor again!!!

    • @raynash4748
      @raynash4748 Месяц назад

      @@TheKkpop1 LMAO... Good boy, Xi is proud of your post.

  • @SalManila1
    @SalManila1 Месяц назад

    I'M AN American Expat in South East Asia. BYD is very popular. They are selling a PHEV here FOR $26.8K:and it's awesome.

  • @TH-c1k2
    @TH-c1k2 Месяц назад +12

    I’m sorry, I think you need to study China more before you talk about China

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      Why study a country that isn't going to exist in a century? It'd be like majoring in Latin, only really useful if you're a Tridentine Mass Catholic.

    • @dewinmoonl
      @dewinmoonl Месяц назад +8

      Why lol this is pure comedy 🤣 let the man entertain us

    • @muhammadswalih8923
      @muhammadswalih8923 Месяц назад +3

      Yes, It's entertainment to see them in their delusion.

    • @inquisitive8903
      @inquisitive8903 Месяц назад

      Why you think so... where's he wrong

    • @Chronically_ChiII
      @Chronically_ChiII 15 дней назад

      @inquisitive8903 Chinese bots are an actual problem.

  • @clarkfurlong9233
    @clarkfurlong9233 Месяц назад +2

    Forget pigs in Spain, how about pigs in space!

  • @winnie796
    @winnie796 Месяц назад +5

    Thank you

    • @knowledgeishalfthebattle
      @knowledgeishalfthebattle Месяц назад

      "Biden’s China Tariffs Are the End of an Era for Cheap Chinese Goods" - The NY Times - May 18, 2024 💯
      CBS News MoneyWatch-13 May 2024 - The 30 retailers that are closing the most U.S. stores this year. Retailers have announced plans to close almost 3,200 locations in 2024!!!!!! 💯

  • @TimmyTheTurtleTVOKids
    @TimmyTheTurtleTVOKids Месяц назад +2

    this is my classroom.
    Free and comprehensive Thank you.

  • @mbak7801
    @mbak7801 Месяц назад +5

    So legacy motor manufacturers cannot compete with well designed and high quality Chinese made EVs so they get tariffs put on them to ensure their customers pay as high a price as possible. Giving the legacy companies a kick up the proverbial arse to get them to compete would have been a far better response which would have helped everybody. The solution for consumers is hold onto your old car for two/three/four more years until the legacy companies are in so much pain that the whole tariffs nonsense goes away.

    • @Nobleheart111
      @Nobleheart111 Месяц назад +2

      “High quality” and “Chinese” should never be used in the same sentence.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад

      You are correct.
      As for high quality and Chinese made EVs not being compatible, well, they decided to master EV on R&D and production to conquer world markets.
      All at the same time American car makers are slowly and steadily retreating from world markets , focusing solely on profitability , in an industry driven on low margins. And an industry that makes only money on volume and platforms. Where niche car makers make proftis by charging a premium.
      Give it time, Americans will buy Chinese made automotive technology, whether they want it or not.
      See G&E appliances , branded G&E , but wholy owned by Haier, a Chinese appliance maker. If you want to buy an American made appliance nowadays , and a good one, that is Viking , SubZero. Not G&E , not Frigidaire. At best Korean brands like IG, Samsung.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      @@Nobleheart111 It is, however, a reliable metric for detecting wumaos to heckle. They can't help themselves.

  • @kuku23201
    @kuku23201 Месяц назад +1

    Hi Peter I‘m ur Chinese long term fans. thank you for ur updating trade war vedios as well as other topics about China to let normal chinese people know what is happening between us and other nations. I even recommend ur channel to my US friends😊. Again thank you and hope u doing great with more good vedios

  • @scotthartman9834
    @scotthartman9834 Месяц назад +15

    Those glasses are 🔥

    • @frisk151
      @frisk151 Месяц назад

      He looks better in neon pank! (ink)..

    • @scotthartman9834
      @scotthartman9834 Месяц назад

      @@frisk151 nope… pank forever!

  • @johns818
    @johns818 Месяц назад +1

    I dont like these China tariffs. Greedy US auto makers keep price gouging.

  • @TheJonesy777
    @TheJonesy777 Месяц назад +7

    It needed to be done. The UK is flooded with piss poor MG’s biggest piece of crap ever to hit the road.

    • @tomizatko3138
      @tomizatko3138 Месяц назад +3

      @@rainonasphaltPeople will get scammed by buying these cheap and useless cars because they only see the price not the useablity of such death traps.

    • @TheKkpop1
      @TheKkpop1 Месяц назад +1

      Poor uk can't make lousy car nowadays

    • @pavolhorvath7850
      @pavolhorvath7850 Месяц назад +1

      @@tomizatko3138 It's a learning process. You have to let people learn from mistaked. There is no better way.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад

      The same MG controls the making of London taxicabs.
      MG is a wholy owned subsidiary.
      China’s crown jewel is BYD.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      Must be pretty low considering we're talking about the country that brought the Reliant Robin into existence.

  • @stone1227
    @stone1227 26 дней назад +1

    Another Mercedes Bentz EV burst into fire in a Korean parking yard, just a few days ago 🤭

  • @ZMB-on5ub
    @ZMB-on5ub Месяц назад +5

    Thought they copied the i3 for their chip design. Maybe different product.

  • @bvkronenberg6786
    @bvkronenberg6786 Месяц назад +1

    Oh No!!
    We must have Free Trade!!

  • @DearSX
    @DearSX Месяц назад +3

    Don't mess with my cheap Chinese electronics please.

  • @jdiggedy1
    @jdiggedy1 Месяц назад +2

    China has major tariffs on anything imported that is not required. I know because I go there several times a year and travel with locals. Tariffs managed in the right way can level the playing field.

  • @bendikkirkbakk1833
    @bendikkirkbakk1833 Месяц назад +11

    Tariffs is a tax that you as a buyer suffers. Not China

    • @ClemensKatzer
      @ClemensKatzer Месяц назад +3

      In theory consumers will then buy the not-China-alternative, and that's the whole point. So China does suffer, in that it can't sell it products in the West. The problem is, in the case of EVs Western consumers will then rather stick with internal combustion engines.

    • @okalov
      @okalov Месяц назад +3

      It disincentivises the purchase in the first place by making it more expensive, which means less sales, which means the market isn't viable...

    • @ClemensKatzer
      @ClemensKatzer Месяц назад

      @@okalov Exactly.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад +3

      Nobody is going buy the junk when it's expensive.

    • @dennispack4119
      @dennispack4119 Месяц назад

      ​@@ClemensKatzer which is exactly what the petroleum industry and their purchased politicians want ... screw the environment. #FollowTheMoney

  • @kevenpinder7025
    @kevenpinder7025 Месяц назад +3

    Would it be possible to get the tarriff portion of the EV's price refunded to the buyer if they bought one and it spontaneously burst into flames within the first year? IIRC once one of these cars goes burny burny the Fire Department has to stand by for hours so they can keep putting it out when it inevitably re-ignites.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      If that money has left the country and has ended up in China? Good luck getting any of it back, in any currency. But generally: no, because the cars will be insured, and it'll be the insurance companies taking the loss and consequently everyones' rates will go up just that little bit more. If there's an epidemic of Chinese-made EVs that keep catching fire, insurance companies will inevitably cotton onto this and deny coverage for vehicles of certain brands (like some are already doing with Hyundai and Kia due to whole lack of anti-theft immobilizers in the ignition circuitry making the cars hilariously easy to hotwire), which won't stop people from being idiots in buying the stupid things, but will at least stem the bleeding.

  • @wam7484
    @wam7484 Месяц назад +4

    Commitment to tariff wars means you're willing to go it alone with what you've got. USA has everything it needs, but it will mean paying union rates and you can expect to pay 50% to 100% more than you might have paid with free global trade. Which will require wage increases...and off we go to inflation land.

  • @solidworks7
    @solidworks7 Месяц назад +1

    Those are Not mountains...they are small hills

  • @alfaeco15
    @alfaeco15 Месяц назад +7

    Why China is so bent on following such counterproductive policy?

    • @u2beuser714
      @u2beuser714 Месяц назад

      They are the ones slapping tarrifs on chinese stuffs , so much for the "free market" innit?

    • @frisk151
      @frisk151 Месяц назад

      Because they are Chinese.. Why are russians acting like russians??.. There really are not any new secret 'ninjas' prowling about.. Just humans with very short memories... The Frog and the Scorpion, much?

    • @brandonscoffield9974
      @brandonscoffield9974 Месяц назад +5

      Domination

    • @amraceway
      @amraceway Месяц назад

      @@brandonscoffield9974 They are just simply a smarter, more productive nation than the EU and the USA who have well and truly been caught with their pants down. China has such a lead on them in every field they will not be beaten. Western propaganda is no match for Chinese unrivaled productivity.

    • @Okami1313
      @Okami1313 Месяц назад

      In one word: propaganda. The chinese believe that they are the rising power that will topple the U.S. and become world hegemon. As long as I can remember, people were always afraid of China and talking about how their takeover was inevitable. That was up until covid and it turns out all those people who thought China was going to take over were either eating up Chinese propaganda, or were being paid to spread it by the CCP themselves. Now it seems like the Chinese are the only ones that believe that anymore

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyaz Месяц назад +1

    But needs to not forget, is the fact that it was this US created system that they have taken very huge advantage of, especially how high trust it is, easy for a lot of Chinese business practices to exploit without many repercussions..
    As he was saying, China may not be at successful with, or make as much money with, a system t they institute on the world themselves

  • @aick
    @aick Месяц назад +3

    Hey I was up around Frazer last week! You get any rain while you were down here? We been gettin dumped on down in the middle of the state.

  • @denisestarr2314
    @denisestarr2314 Месяц назад +1

    How stupid , we middle class in the needs affordable vehicles. As a rural pearson we need the Toyota Hilux small truck or a small electric truck . I'm offgrid , I can charge it from my solar .
    Solar works, y'all.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      One of the caveats of affordability is that it also has to be reliable, otherwise it's not particularly affordable. It's like if you buy an inkjet printer because it's cheap, and then you end up paying the equivalent cost of the printer in ink cartridge replacements every few months because the stuff keeps drying out. Not very affordable over time, is it?

  • @johnreynolds7996
    @johnreynolds7996 Месяц назад +11

    Zeihan: ..."China is also not the technological leader"...
    Hmmm. That's an assumption that should be substantiated because if he's wrong about that assumption then all of his conclusions are going to be wrong.
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    • @michaelrunnels7660
      @michaelrunnels7660 Месяц назад +1

      Until 1975 China was strictly an agricultural society. When Nixon went to China in 1972 and invited China to join the modern world, China was on the same technological level as England in 1800. China had absolutely nothing to offer the world except a LOT of people, that is, cheap labor. In the last 40 years they have fully industrialized by using cheap labor. The products they export are almost all things they have assembled that they imported from all over the world. All the technological advancement they have done was done by foreign engineers and management from virtually every developed country. Those foreigners have left and the workers in those technologically advanced factories don't know how to keep them running, let alone continue with any advancement. China tried for years to manufacture ball point pens and failed. They assembled billions of them from parts made in other countries but to this day can't manufacture ballpoint pens themselves. The same goes for ALL of their electronics. There is not a single part of a smart phone made in China, but smart phones are all assembled there. If China cannot get the parts from all over the world to assemble, they will have nothing to offer anyone in the world and will revert back to a farming/agricultural society. This is beginning right now and will most likely result in a famine that will take the lives of hundreds of millions of Chinese and break China up into 4 to 6 separate countries, just as it's been for all of it's history before 1948. BTW China's cheap labor has disappeared and labor costs are now higher than most other countries. That's why the world's businesses are moving their assembly factories to other countries like Vietnam. They have, in effect, nothing to offer the world anymore and are being cut off from more and more of the world's trade.

    • @pikachus5m166
      @pikachus5m166 7 дней назад

      ​@@michaelrunnels7660That's a ton of copium.

    • @johnreynolds7996
      @johnreynolds7996 7 дней назад

      @@michaelrunnels7660.... "they have, in effect, nothing to offer the world anymore"....
      Well, apart from owning pretty much all of the supply chains for pretty much any resource you might care to name.
      So apart from being utterly indispensable to world trade there is nothing stopping anyone from dispensing with them.

    • @michaelrunnels7660
      @michaelrunnels7660 6 дней назад

      @@johnreynolds7996 You said that China pretty much own all the supply chains. Absolutely not! Research "Bretton Woods Accords" and find out how the world supply chains, manufacturing rules, and industrial financing were established and implemented by the United States in 1944. Throughout human civilized history empires have been the way countries thrived. Bretton Woods replaced those empires with global trading, made possible by safe worldwide shipping, which never existed before. China has been included in virtually every supply chain in the world that was made possible by the Bretton Woods Accords because of their usefullness and China is one cog in the vast worldwide trading machine invented by the United States and established by the Bretton Woods Accords, but China does not control that supply chain, they depend on it. The U.S. Navy is, and has been since 1945, the only thing that has kept worldwide shipping safe and the worldwide trading system intact. China depends on that supply chain for 100% of everything they assemble, 90%+ of their food, and 96% of their energy needs. China has never, ever been an industrialized society without that supply chain being in place decades before they were invited to join. China, as a cog in that world machine, is being replaced because it has worn out and now drags down the worldwide supply chain. China has lost it's usefulness in the industrialized world and is well on it's way to being a pre-industrialized society during the next 6 years. That is inevitable and will come at a crushing cost to China. Even if China's usefulness had not come to an end, the era of the U.S. Navy guaranteeing safe worldwide shipping is coming to an end in the next decade or two. This will result in the free world trade system as we know it coming to an end.

  • @TheGruntski
    @TheGruntski Месяц назад

    J-B did an excellent analysis on the Chinese EV situation. China is currently dumping EVs because they overproduced for their internal market. Simply put, the Chinese don't want these vehicles. So if you purchase such a vehicle you have to ask yourself some questions. Will the vehicle be discontinued? Will the Chinese ramp up the price of replacements and repairs to recoup their losses? Focus! Dumping can't go on forever.

  • @JigilJigil
    @JigilJigil Месяц назад +7

    Peter Rawlinson (Lucid Motors CEO and former Tesla chief engineer), May 10, 2024.:
    Chinese automakers are still *"years and years behind" Tesla on EV technology.*
    *"If you look at the advance in core EV technology, they're still years and years behind Tesla,"*
    The former Tesla engineer said that Chinese EVs had progressed "immeasurably" in recent years, and were now superior to their western counterparts "in terms of fit and finish quality." However, Rawlinson thought *their engineering was still lacking.*
    *"In terms of the elegance of their drive train technology, the batteries, the way things are integrated … it's not even close," he said.*
    *"I was looking at a number of the units on display at the Geneva Motor Show and the engineering was very disappointing."*

    • @timsmith1125
      @timsmith1125 Месяц назад +1

      Although I haven’t researched the price of electric vehicles, my experience in retail (customer service) tells me that the average consumer is very price sensitive right now. For big ticket items, some may research the design and engineering of competing products. Yet, my experience is that it’s still price that’s the deciding factor for many purchases.

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr Месяц назад

      Any "progress" China makes is basically borrowed or stolen from the West.

    • @alburaq3290
      @alburaq3290 Месяц назад +1

      It doesn't matter. Chinese EVs offer a value that's unmatched by Tesla or other Western EVs.
      For average consumers Chinese EVs are good enough because they cost 50% less than Western counterparts.

    • @guydreamr
      @guydreamr Месяц назад

      @@JigilJigil The bottom line though is that evs were invented in the West, China merely appropriated the technology, then scaled up.

  • @dennisclapp7527
    @dennisclapp7527 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks Peter

  • @corneliusantonius3108
    @corneliusantonius3108 Месяц назад +5

    NO ASML for China !!!

  • @claudeyaz
    @claudeyaz Месяц назад +1

    Can you expand on the beef conversation?

  • @vladislavgorshkov737
    @vladislavgorshkov737 Месяц назад +7

    your research is biased and outdated

  • @EliJon378
    @EliJon378 Месяц назад +2

    You might have over a billion people, but that's immaterial if your country doesn't have jobs to sustain this population. Even worse if the people are reliant on food imports. China can scream and shout as much as they like, their population is their problem not their advantage. People have this wrong. More people doesn't mean better economy or ability, it means more jobs needed and more mouths to feed.

    • @bobs_toys
      @bobs_toys Месяц назад

      It's wonderful when they're all working age with barely any children.
      After a few years, however......

  • @ctuna2011
    @ctuna2011 Месяц назад +9

    Chinese are actually making great EV's only Tesla's are as good. But they can make them cheaper. A lot of country's won't ban them .
    So no market for US car other than in the US.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад +1

      Peter Rawlinson (Lucid Motors CEO and former Tesla chief engineer), May 10, 2024.:
      Chinese automakers are still *"years and years behind" Tesla on EV technology.*
      *"If you look at the advance in core EV technology, they're still years and years behind Tesla,"*
      The former Tesla engineer said that Chinese EVs had progressed "immeasurably" in recent years, and were now superior to their western counterparts "in terms of fit and finish quality." However, Rawlinson thought *their engineering was still lacking.*
      *"In terms of the elegance of their drive train technology, the batteries, the way things are integrated … it's not even close," he said.*
      *"I was looking at a number of the units on display at the Geneva Motor Show and the engineering was very disappointing."*

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад +1

      @@JigilJigil these are remarks given to the press. To appease its core readers.
      As far as fit and finish , I’ve seen Chinese car models here , and they are just fine. And most EV automakers source their battery packs from a single Chinese company.
      Got watch some daily Autoline News. You are overdue. Your set of data is biased .

  • @SuperDrake85
    @SuperDrake85 Месяц назад +1

    China: We built a 7nm chip! Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
    TSMC: (Looks at chip) - Congratulations, you've modified a Bitcoin mining rig to somehow make it use even more electricity.

  • @mason3279
    @mason3279 Месяц назад +9

    I've spent the last month wondering around china, the EVs and trains are great. Everything else is mediocre at best.

    • @Nimamaodiao
      @Nimamaodiao Месяц назад

      I remember the pothole free roads being nice. But it depends where you are in that huge place.
      Also, the fluidity of ebikes in traffic was great and I miss being able to zoom around and take my battery out to charge in my apt at night.

    • @alexdrockhound9497
      @alexdrockhound9497 Месяц назад

      @@Nimamaodiaoa friend was just there to visit family and he said he found the worst pothole road hes ever seen in his life

    • @michaeldowson6988
      @michaeldowson6988 Месяц назад +1

      @@alexdrockhound9497 Potholes? It's sinkholes they're dealing with!

    • @Nimamaodiao
      @Nimamaodiao Месяц назад

      @@alexdrockhound9497 I did say it depends where you are. Coming from Cali, I was surprised to see any freshly paved roads.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад

      @@michaeldowson6988 Tropical environment with annual flooding on a landmass that's predominantly karst limestone. Southern China is basically Florida without the gators.

  • @AffyBoy
    @AffyBoy Месяц назад +1

    clear - simple - thank u

  • @Leto2ndAtreides
    @Leto2ndAtreides Месяц назад +4

    China is one of the most important markets for European car makers, even if they've been underperforming lately vs local competition.
    So tariffs on Chinese cars = tariffs on European cars = significant harm and loss of profits forto Europe's car industry... As well as damage to billions and billions in investments.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 Месяц назад +1

      Correct. VW’s largest market is China. Annually about 700,000 BMWs are sold in China. And roughly about 600,000 Mercedes Benz.

    • @bobs_toys
      @bobs_toys Месяц назад

      Now subtract the number of those that were made in China.

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o Месяц назад

      The only cars exported from the USA are European brands, no one outside the USA buys USA made cars.

    • @crosslink1493
      @crosslink1493 Месяц назад

      I thought foreign car manufacturers had been slowing and shrinking operations in China due to slowing sales and some onerous regulations put on foreign car brands to help support their own domestic car brands, even when those foreign brands and manufactured in China. I know VW has shrunk their facilities in China quite a bit, not sure about BMW or Mercedes-Benz. Honda has closed a few facilities and will be closing more, Toyota too.

    • @Gridlocked
      @Gridlocked Месяц назад

      ⁠​⁠@@crosslink1493Not just VW, a lot of other companies are closing shop and relocating. Apple in particular is moving its manufacturing to India.

  • @d3faulted2
    @d3faulted2 Месяц назад

    I work with a bunch of Dominicans. I was telling the guys the other day that with China's fall in manufacturing sector it could be a possible boost for countries such as theirs. They have low wages, a good literacy rate, good demographics, and lots of young people that need work.

  • @u2beuser714
    @u2beuser714 Месяц назад +6

    Peter you are getting it wrong , you are pointing out at how inefficient it is for china to make 28nm chips but what you are ignoring is that the point is self sufficiancy whether its efficient or not doesnt matter because its important for a countrys stratigic planning.

    • @BramptonAnglican
      @BramptonAnglican Месяц назад +1

      China lags the capability. They lag behind in technology. Canada would have a better chance at creating our own micro chips than China.

    • @u2beuser714
      @u2beuser714 Месяц назад +2

      ​​@@BramptonAnglican Canada cant invent its way out of a paperbag without significant amount of help let alone creating 28nm chips. And speaking if which, china already has lithography machines for 28nm

    • @u2beuser714
      @u2beuser714 Месяц назад

      ​@@nom_chompsky Nobody cares about exports if the point is self sufficiency, whats so hard to grasp about that concept?

    • @brocklanders6969
      @brocklanders6969 Месяц назад

      @@u2beuser714 In the main two areas that really matter, energy and food, China will never be self sufficient. Their imports in these two critical areas are growing.

    • @janvanhof1469
      @janvanhof1469 Месяц назад

      @@u2beuser714 France tried that too with the intel processor so did Russia and many more. Even if it works, you end up with a more expensive product that is years behind the competition, and that cycle of falling behind repeats itself year after year until you can hardly cal it sufficient.

  • @Baoboi332
    @Baoboi332 Месяц назад +1

    Did you see that USA also is going to ban Chinese AI self driving software in cars as well. That to me is almost as significant as tarriffs.

  • @thedude5241
    @thedude5241 Месяц назад +3

    Racist comments in the first 30 secs. Nice.

    • @bobs_toys
      @bobs_toys Месяц назад

      How is referring to a white guy who's dead as a dead white guy racist?