Can the French Lead the EU into the Future? || Peter Zeihan

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
  • The EU was established to promote unity and peace, but times have changed and priorities have shifted. So, what does the future of the European Union look like and how does France fit into the mix?
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Комментарии • 1,2 тыс.

  • @simonlawrencesings
    @simonlawrencesings Месяц назад +905

    Peter Zeihan walking down stairs:
    "As we go further down, these stairs will simply disappear. There isn't the stone in this region to complete them, and even if there was the decline in working age people is so catastrophic that they don't have the workers to maintain them. Within the next 50 years these stairs won't even exist in any meaningful way. Anyhoo..."

  • @imtheonewhoknocks4230
    @imtheonewhoknocks4230 24 дня назад +11

    As someone living in France for the past 9 years, "I need a clear answer from the French" is by far the most terrifying thing of this video

  • @thedownwardmachine
    @thedownwardmachine Месяц назад +92

    They are rich, so I believe the correct term is “Luxembourgeois”

    • @darkmater4tm
      @darkmater4tm Месяц назад +1

      That was the correct asnwer when they were poor too

    • @janentomenkafka
      @janentomenkafka Месяц назад

      Thanks, you made my day 😁

    • @AllahinKulu-p2g
      @AllahinKulu-p2g Месяц назад

      They are filthy rich.. 😉

    • @yellow01umrella
      @yellow01umrella 29 дней назад +1

      True successor to the Holy Roman Empire

  • @alann2282
    @alann2282 Месяц назад +210

    Peter is in a Star Trek holodeck. He NEVER passes another person out walking.

    • @Dave_9547
      @Dave_9547 Месяц назад +15

      Sorry, I saw one, a dude wearing all black near the start of the video. Clearly, the stairs are not very popular.

    • @jonlittle5032
      @jonlittle5032 Месяц назад +1

      You don't watch him often. He tends to edit those out.

    • @luminyam6145
      @luminyam6145 Месяц назад

      Omg you're right!!

    • @David-dl3vj
      @David-dl3vj Месяц назад +1

      No other person has the inclination. You did see how much he was struggling going DOWN the bloody things. Your on a fricking HOLIDAY, WHY would you try walking UP the fricking things?????????

    • @TW0man4RMY
      @TW0man4RMY Месяц назад

      That's dumb but I believe it.

  • @oleksiypolishchuk5256
    @oleksiypolishchuk5256 Месяц назад +112

    “The EU was built for another age, just like these darn stairs” 😂😂

    • @gregoire59
      @gregoire59 27 дней назад

      The EU wasn't built... it is being build and shaped for the future.

  • @stopdropnroll
    @stopdropnroll Месяц назад +276

    "like these god damn stairs" 🤣🤣 that was perfectly timed. There was feeling in that 😂

    • @user-vq5mn9tw2i
      @user-vq5mn9tw2i Месяц назад +14

      That was hilarious.....

    • @nicojames813
      @nicojames813 Месяц назад

      @@user-vq5mn9tw2i

    • @mloutherback
      @mloutherback Месяц назад +6

      I blew coffee out my nose on that one!😂

    • @crosslink1493
      @crosslink1493 Месяц назад +13

      Yeah, that really caught my attention, too: "a piece of infrastructure built for another age, like these god-damn stairs!".

    • @Dreadamere1
      @Dreadamere1 Месяц назад +3

      Perfect delivery! Lmao

  • @iainthomson8327
    @iainthomson8327 Месяц назад +180

    “A piece of infrastructure that was built for another age, like these god damn stairs!!” 😂😂😂😂
    Are you sure you don’t have a British bloodline Peter? Very witty humour 👍🏼

    • @alexmueck8558
      @alexmueck8558 Месяц назад +4

      11:00

    • @jackiepie7423
      @jackiepie7423 Месяц назад +2

      what's amazing is most of his videos involve him climbing a mountain

    • @littlehandsgivescovfefe4837
      @littlehandsgivescovfefe4837 Месяц назад

      Unfortunately, he have a ‘Jerry’ surname but maybe grandfather or some other ancestor brought it back with him as a European G.I when they came back to Iowa.

  • @j72ashley
    @j72ashley Месяц назад +141

    How do you keep your sense of humor through all this stuff? That is a part of your appeal. Feels like I'm chatting with a friend as opposed to just being fed info

    • @Reel___
      @Reel___ Месяц назад +3

      This was a really sweet comment, I agree. 👍🏾

    • @khatack
      @khatack Месяц назад +4

      How do you think someone can keep themselves interested in doing something like this? Sense of humor is paramount.

    • @sigis72
      @sigis72 Месяц назад +6

      Peter is high enough up the food chain to not have to personally suffer from any of his predictions

    • @msergio0293
      @msergio0293 Месяц назад

      The government agencies have really good propaganda

    • @Erwin93200
      @Erwin93200 Месяц назад +1

      he is british

  • @hughanquetil2567
    @hughanquetil2567 Месяц назад +157

    Now you understand why obesity is less of a problem in France.

    • @martian9999
      @martian9999 Месяц назад +13

      I for one will never get how for some folks, simply doing what for hundreds of thousands of years has been the most normal thing for Homo Sapiens to do for hours and hours every day -- namely, walking -- is somehow considered to be unusually "French", or "European".

    • @tsequeira2912
      @tsequeira2912 Месяц назад +9

      That. And eating real food

    • @janentomenkafka
      @janentomenkafka Месяц назад +1

      @@martian9999 Peter being the only person on the stairs doesn't mean this town is deserted. It probably means the locals are driving their cars on a road hidden by the houses ;-)

    • @fredalwatkins4506
      @fredalwatkins4506 25 дней назад

      P​@@martian9999

    • @kifi672
      @kifi672 22 дня назад

      @@martian9999 because people walk in these countries, while in the US, everybody takes their car for a 100m

  • @MrErendira69
    @MrErendira69 Месяц назад +55

    Hi Zeihan. Most interesting, but I jumped out of my chair when you mentioned that France could "become a contributer to Europe"...France is a net contributor to the European budget since the very beginning of Eu, witch means that they always paid more than they received, just like Germany.

    • @irena61
      @irena61 Месяц назад +2

      Exactly.

    • @gyozop
      @gyozop Месяц назад +4

      Plot twist. The founding countries did not build the EU to lose money on new members, but make them pay to join. Doing it in a way that is mostly mutually beneficial, but more to the old members and when push comes to shove they get all the benefits but still keeping appearances with the EU funds.

    • @yellow01umrella
      @yellow01umrella 29 дней назад

      Lmao France didn't sacrifice their national currency just to pay more than they receive

    • @tomskondratovics760
      @tomskondratovics760 25 дней назад +1

      @@gyozop mutual is the right word, i would say! I am from Latvia, we joined in 2004 (if i am not mistaken, and joined monetary union in 2014), and although, fundwise, we have received more than we payed, we had to close a lot of our factories that represented huge chunk in our industrial sector (sugar, steel plants). However, i am not complaining, if we didn't join EU and NATO the story could have been a lot different. Every country should look at the current priorities - in our case it was the right decision (in my opinion).
      in short - only cheese is for free in mouse trap is for free! Everything is balanced and whining from either side is pathetic

    • @gyozop
      @gyozop 25 дней назад +3

      @@tomskondratovics760 I am from Hungary and I agree with everything you wrote. The same applies to us. But the game is not over, the rules and consequences change a little bit all the time. The trajectory is not good at the moment.

  • @nrm224
    @nrm224 Месяц назад +93

    Apparently, it’s possible in France to walk uphill both ways to school.

  • @808bAler
    @808bAler Месяц назад +13

    This may have been the most treacherous hike I've seen Peter travel on. Good on the French maintaining that perpetual staircase to help keep the locals fit as a fiddle.

    • @johnpombrio
      @johnpombrio Месяц назад

      And such large crowds using them...

  • @georgiewalker5826
    @georgiewalker5826 Месяц назад +218

    I love a longer video like this

    • @VanIife
      @VanIife Месяц назад +5

      He needs to talk about how he was wrong about Biden winning

    • @VanIife
      @VanIife Месяц назад +2

      He needs to talk about how he was wrong about Biden winning

    • @didboy74
      @didboy74 Месяц назад

      ​@@VanIifeelection isn't over yet. Democrats still have a couple of weeks to change their mind....😅😅😅😅😅

    • @FormerPessitheRobberfan
      @FormerPessitheRobberfan Месяц назад

      His prediction was based on the information he had at the time. As someone who tentatively supports Trump, holding him to the fire over that prediction is pretty unfair. He has justifiable reasons behind his prediction ​@@VanIife

    • @janitorizamped
      @janitorizamped Месяц назад +1

      ​@@VanIifeLol wut

  • @SGBassplayer
    @SGBassplayer Месяц назад +35

    Being able to bloviate at that rate while working those stairs is damn near a superpower as far as I’m concerned. Dude’s cardio health is beyond solid.

    • @bluesteel8376
      @bluesteel8376 Месяц назад

      He was walking down the stairs, not up. Nothing challenging about that.

  • @ulfdanielsen6009
    @ulfdanielsen6009 Месяц назад +83

    As a Scandinavian to all of this two things:
    1. While not neccessarily being in opposition to a French dominance among the big players of the European future I still foresee a living hell,- mainly because the rest of Europe never will agree with France on litterally anything,- mainly because it´s the French which means they´d want any and everything done the French way,- which is always in stark dimensional opposition to what the rest of Europe wants and how it would do it,- it´s the French after all and they always want things done differently,- ie. the French way.
    2. This goes out to all Europeans: Alors, les gars,- time to start learning French again,- for the French will shure as shite never start actually learning anything but French so it will be needed.
    Quel dommage!

    • @TomTomicMic
      @TomTomicMic Месяц назад

      Mainland Europe will never agree with France, unless they adopt the Euro Franc and speak French and they will charge each country a commission for joining their gang, like their failed African adventure. The future of all Europe relies on a trade only deal and NATO alignment, political union is dead, ask Victor the current EU Council "President" or is it for Russia and China's dictators!?!

    • @MrOvipare
      @MrOvipare Месяц назад +2

      As a bilingual Québecois working on his spanish, what should I learn next? Is there a scandinavian language that lets you somewhat understand the others or they are just way different?

    • @ulfdanielsen6009
      @ulfdanielsen6009 Месяц назад +9

      @@MrOvipare All three Scandinavian languages are very similar,- some differences in syntax, grammar and pronunciation but it is basically the same language in three different variations.
      All three originate from the Germanic Old Norse spoken from the time of the big migration period into the Vikingr period and on to the high Middle Ages where they separated into the beginnings of the modern day three languages of Danish, Swedish and Norwegian. They are all on a dialect continuum.
      Icelandic and Faroese are the ones that have stayed the most true to the original pronunciation but syntax and grammar have changed during the last millennium.
      Sweden is the country with the largest population, so it would make sense to start here,- though,- as a Dane,- stating this is almost sacrilege.
      Look to the YT channels of Jackson Crawford on all things Old Norse ( an actual linguist US university professor specialized in Old Norse) and Langfocus on speaking different languages. He has several videos on all three Scandinavian languages. Use these as a starting point and choose the one language whose sound appeals the most to you.
      Both of these gentlemen are actual competent educators.
      Enjoy,- and good luck.

    • @hgh425
      @hgh425 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@MrOvipareNorwegian might be the one. But as an outsider to gain the knowledge and differences to understand all tree.. probably not happening

    • @ulfdanielsen6009
      @ulfdanielsen6009 Месяц назад

      One more thing: I f you´d want to learn about the origins of your own latin family language of French look to the YT channel of PolyMATHY teaching everything there is to know about Roman Latin and it´s influence also on modern day latin languages of French, Spanish and Italian,- and yet again Langfocus.
      PolyMATHY have had cooperation with Dr. Jackson Crawford on the differences/ similarities between Latin and Old Norse,- might be worth checking out.

  • @VinyZikss
    @VinyZikss Месяц назад +20

    were you in Mount Olympus? 12 straight minutes of walking downstairs 😂

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 25 дней назад

      I think it was Mt. Blanc.

  • @ferdinangenius
    @ferdinangenius Месяц назад +6

    I wonder why Peter believes there is more fun listening him as he walks and breathes...

  • @aria1071
    @aria1071 Месяц назад +16

    "like these goddamn stairs!" 🤣

  • @RickBeall
    @RickBeall Месяц назад +22

    Wow! That was very eye opening for me! I thought the France had just turned into a museum of culture celebrating the power they had in the past. I was wrong! I love having my eyes opened!

    • @theforsakeen177
      @theforsakeen177 Месяц назад +11

      his bit about france being a taker nation is wrong tho, they are the second biggest contributor of the EU.

    • @dmitriitodorov968
      @dmitriitodorov968 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@theforsakeen177 but they also borrow a lot from ECB

    • @chrisa5631
      @chrisa5631 Месяц назад +2

      France is becoming more Islamic and African as the days go by.
      Low birth rate, still the French wants to retire early.
      The EU needs to go back to how way it was in the 90s

    • @papershark
      @papershark Месяц назад +3

      @@theforsakeen177 same logic as 'i saved money because it was on sale'. The EU was always a project for France to gouge Germany.

    • @theforsakeen177
      @theforsakeen177 Месяц назад +2

      @@papershark how? france is a net contributor to the EU and also when i was there i recall at the time the FN was particularly popular since they were so anti EU since due to the EU common market french industries couldn't quiet compete with germany.

  • @IvorMektin1701
    @IvorMektin1701 Месяц назад +21

    I have to ice my knees after this video

  • @osmanerdogdu7868
    @osmanerdogdu7868 Месяц назад +46

    The real question is "Can Frecnh lead France into the Future?".

    • @JornMolt-mf6qo
      @JornMolt-mf6qo Месяц назад +9

      The answer is no.

    • @jetjaguar5198
      @jetjaguar5198 Месяц назад +3

      How about can americans led merica into the future?🤔🤦‍♀️🤣

    • @FRMaverick6
      @FRMaverick6 Месяц назад +3

      Frecnh won't lead France, that's for sure

    • @chrisa5631
      @chrisa5631 Месяц назад +1

      @@FRMaverick6the EU has neutered individual nations being a nation of self reliance. Everything is done in Brussels…..
      What works in France may not work in Sweden.

    • @estebanmunoz7486
      @estebanmunoz7486 Месяц назад

      No… France is its way to go full Caliphate…

  • @SenpaiinJapan
    @SenpaiinJapan Месяц назад +16

    11:06 Peter vs. French Stairs: 0:1 😂

  • @TJ-dx1ws
    @TJ-dx1ws Месяц назад +9

    The German Euro was great for Germany for many years. Not so much for the south (eg Italy went from having an economy growing faster than Germany's in the 90's with the Lira to no net growth in 2+ decades of the Euro). It's not clear who (if anyone) is benefiting now.

  • @alexwttc
    @alexwttc Месяц назад +77

    hiking 30km of mountain in Colorado NO problem few stairs in France GOOD DAMM BRO!!!

    • @chrislisenby2681
      @chrislisenby2681 Месяц назад +2

      More like trying to navigate downward mediveal slanted stairs while maintaining adequate eye contact with the camera.

    • @TomTomicMic
      @TomTomicMic Месяц назад

      ​@@chrislisenby2681 Colorado trails were shaped by nature and infrequent use only, French stairs are by some designer or other even in medieval times and he was going downwards!?!

  •  Месяц назад +89

    05:00 - Peter struggling with medieval architecture : "low ceilings, the French aren't very tall" ... Yeah, that must be the reason

    • @bobkoure
      @bobkoure Месяц назад +7

      And he managed to NOT side-track into how Napoleon got all the tall Frenchmen killed (which indeed seems to be why the French of today aren't particularly tall).

    • @BKYoutube-zq3yv
      @BKYoutube-zq3yv Месяц назад +1

      It was pretty funny. I think plenty of Europeans could take those stairs and keep eye contact with the camera a lot more. I'm Dutch and many expats are mortified of just walking some of our stairs, meanwhile we walk up/down them handsfree and even carry stuff like washing machines and couches up/down lol.

    • @pyrioncelendil
      @pyrioncelendil Месяц назад +9

      To be fair, Peter's like 6'5".

    • @PolarExpress_11-10
      @PolarExpress_11-10 Месяц назад +2

      The French people in Canada are tall, and they live in the same house style everyone there lives in.

    • @LANeverSleeps
      @LANeverSleeps Месяц назад

      @@BKRUclips-zq3yv Dutch stairs in particular are pretty unsettling to the average American lol.

  • @mntlblok
    @mntlblok Месяц назад +100

    Misspoke at the 9:14 point saying Russians when he meant Germans, I believe.

    • @brandonhallam51
      @brandonhallam51 Месяц назад

      The Biden is seeping in

    • @FraterMikhail
      @FraterMikhail Месяц назад +1

      he did

    • @alenmichelaguilo9602
      @alenmichelaguilo9602 Месяц назад +2

      Oh, he shouldn't run for president now 😂

    • @sascharouvensimon4670
      @sascharouvensimon4670 Месяц назад

      A Freudian slip He hates Germany. But even most people who dislike Germany still accept Germany as important player of the EU.
      The far bigger economy, and far interconnected which the rest of Europe. 5:56

    • @yellow01umrella
      @yellow01umrella 29 дней назад +1

      Russia living rent free in his head.

  • @omarios1212
    @omarios1212 Месяц назад +17

    Can the French Lead the EU into the Future?
    As someone living in France, short answer is : No

    • @johndoe-cd9vt
      @johndoe-cd9vt 20 дней назад +1

      As someone who is born in Paris, France, the short answer is: YES

  • @Blaque_Frost
    @Blaque_Frost Месяц назад +6

    As a tall man myself, those types of stairs are annoying. Hard to get a good stride going on them.

  • @thomassutrina8296
    @thomassutrina8296 Месяц назад +4

    The French WERE NOT VERY TALL WHEN WHERE YOUR WALKING WAS BUILT.

  • @MrErendira69
    @MrErendira69 Месяц назад +3

    Sorry again...What do you mean "French's economic is nit based on free trade, it's nationalised"?? Could you give any exemple ? France is tied with all the European and international treatys just like all it's neighbours. Do you really believe that LVMH, L'Oréal, Sanofi or Société Générale belong to the state ? I'm disappointed to hear this lack of accuracy in your videos.

  • @richarddoherty5987
    @richarddoherty5987 26 дней назад +2

    The European Union started out as the EEC (European ECONOMIC community). It then morphed into a self serving bureaucratic social engineering project. That was it's downfall.

  • @Chewable396
    @Chewable396 Месяц назад +2

    The story of Europe is the story of France. Of course France will lead. They are the main protagonist.

  • @alincorha1274
    @alincorha1274 Месяц назад +120

    Europeans will adapts to the 'damned stairs' as they always did. Hard times shape strong people.

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 Месяц назад +19

      I'm not sure if they can adapt to times as hard as they're about to have.
      How can they face global warming, Russian aggression, swarms of Muslim migrants, all with a bunch of ailing pensioners?

    • @andreirazvan6051
      @andreirazvan6051 Месяц назад +16

      you are 100% right, europeans will adapt and survive, but they will never grow and prosper. I am an european and i have been hearing this quote coming from the politicians since the financial crise in 2008. "Europe will resist as always", the problem is that other countries/alliances resist too and not only that...but they grow economically, while europeans resists and stagnates or even experience degrowth.

    • @IloveDoubleD
      @IloveDoubleD Месяц назад

      All Empires end. Sometimes hard times hasten to destroy Empires. The EU was never going to survive. It was based off of purely Socialist ideals. Socialism is expensive. Humans are tribal and asking or forcing Europeans to accept less advanced people or civilizations only forces them down to the lowest common denominator. They thought they could bring in millions of people from other cultures without assimilation. Europe as a union will collapse, just a matter of when.

    • @michaeldowson6988
      @michaeldowson6988 Месяц назад +3

      Zeihan has spent enough time mountain climbing to know that stairs are a reality of living on steep ground.
      We have them in my part of N. America.

    • @avitalsheva
      @avitalsheva Месяц назад

      They will not. US want war in EU and especially between EU and Russia as it is US main interest to put down competitors.
      And youtube is removing all such opinios one after another... As Amrerican company

  • @brazelabs8451
    @brazelabs8451 Месяц назад +5

    “Like these goddamn stairs”…😂😂

  • @db1982Cro
    @db1982Cro Месяц назад +61

    The number of times Europe was "doomed" is beyond counting now. The modern world started in Europe. Europe is too diverse and too dynamic to go under. Turbulent, bloody and confusing, yes. But there so much about it that can adjust.

    • @boblately5402
      @boblately5402 Месяц назад

      Lmao acting as if the current demographic situation is normal and not terminal where every major European country is slated to be no longer European in the coming years is hilarious.

    • @ectur8
      @ectur8 Месяц назад +12

      True but eventually the modern world becomes the ancient world and nations and empires go “under.” This is like speaking to an Egyptian five thousand years ago. Or a Greek or a hun….or on and on and on.

    • @db1982Cro
      @db1982Cro Месяц назад +13

      @@ectur8 none of these things happened in a decade mind you. And youre talking about individual nations, not a continent. When Greek states lost power did Europe crumble?

    • @ectur8
      @ectur8 Месяц назад +2

      @@db1982Cro fair enough…..but it does happen. After the fall of the Roman Empire the Mediterranean was a wasteland and it crumbled and it was rebuilt and the cycle went on. I think you’re focusing on the word crumble (lol which you introduced) and doing so conveniently. Europe may not crumble in the literal sense but it will by all intents and purposes. As far as the time it takes for it to happen, no you won’t blink and see it in ruins. It’s gradual but things move faster in the modern world. Perhaps it will take a century or two for Europe to “crumble” but in a civilizational time scale that’s well…. A blink of an eye.

    • @blablup1214
      @blablup1214 Месяц назад +4

      @@ectur8 If you think about it. Our biggest problem in Europe is the mountain of old people we need to support. But in contrast to other things this is a self solving problem. In at most 50 years, all those old people will be gone.
      And if the burden decreases and at the same time housing gets much more affordable ( as so much houses will be empty ) people will start having more children again.

  • @nelsonsack2694
    @nelsonsack2694 Месяц назад +43

    My god, that must be the longest staircase in Europe. I’m exhausted just watching it.

    • @julientabulazero103
      @julientabulazero103 Месяц назад +12

      Not even close. There is a place in Switzerland where stairs runs alongside a rail track. Once per year it is open to visitors. The run is only 3km in length but there is something like 11,000 steps for you to climb.
      That's cardio for you.

  • @andrewjames1366
    @andrewjames1366 Месяц назад +36

    Cue two songs that epitomized the optimism of the early 1990s:
    “Right here, right now” by Jesus Jones (1990)
    “Wind of Change” by the Scorpions (1991)
    For a brief moment (9 November 1989 to 11 September 2001), we truly believed that the world was going to be different.

    • @charleshill7184
      @charleshill7184 Месяц назад +5

      Peter's going farther back to Stairway to Heaven (1971).

    • @al28854
      @al28854 Месяц назад +2

      so we can expect 'Grunge' to make a comeback?

    • @davidbarcelona5083
      @davidbarcelona5083 Месяц назад

      It WAS different

    • @yellow01umrella
      @yellow01umrella 29 дней назад

      What was different exactly? US illegally bombed Yugoslavia

  • @ShivamGupta-sr9zf
    @ShivamGupta-sr9zf Месяц назад +60

    Wow, A 13 minute episode from Peter. Nice!

  • @johnl.7754
    @johnl.7754 Месяц назад +81

    Wonder if walking down the old steps in France symbolizes something 🤔

    • @russellharrell2747
      @russellharrell2747 Месяц назад +4

      Symbolism in a YT video? Surely not.

    • @Josephus_vanDenElzen
      @Josephus_vanDenElzen Месяц назад +9

      Like Voltaire description about the waxing and waning of Civilization: wooden shoes going up, silk slippers going down

    • @Neotenyx
      @Neotenyx Месяц назад

      You can symbolize anything, for example: He goes down the old steps as he explains history as old as these steps

  • @alberthartl8885
    @alberthartl8885 Месяц назад +5

    You always make me think 🤔. I think Poland 🇵🇱 is moving towards a real leadership position in the EU.

    • @murphy7801
      @murphy7801 Месяц назад

      😂 not really, Poland population and GDP is quite small.

    • @avb4805
      @avb4805 Месяц назад

      No... 😂😂😂

    • @renaudfilippi2599
      @renaudfilippi2599 Месяц назад

      With the gdp of Bordeaux or Munich ?

  • @michaelgardner5832
    @michaelgardner5832 Месяц назад +12

    The challenges of the future are not the challenges of the past...so true!

    • @TomTomicMic
      @TomTomicMic Месяц назад +1

      ......but they are, it's soviets dressed as Russians!?!

    • @David-dl3vj
      @David-dl3vj Месяц назад +1

      I'm not sure we as a race are going to be in a place that this conversation is even relevant. in 50 years.

    • @crose7412
      @crose7412 Месяц назад

      @@David-dl3vj Hippie!

    • @yellow01umrella
      @yellow01umrella 29 дней назад

      Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.

  • @agreen6301
    @agreen6301 Месяц назад +3

    "...like these Goddamn stairs" 🤣🤣🤣

  • @quietus13
    @quietus13 Месяц назад +24

    France is a fine country with a very interesting history and culture. A wonderful place to visit with friendly people (usually, at least outside Paris).
    But if I had to hang my hat on France saving my continent, I would not feel very good about that. They certainly have some dynamic and ambitious people but broadly as a culture they just like to sleep in, take naps, work 35 hours a week and enjoy the finer things. Nothing wrong with that, but not exactly the fabric of an industrial, financial, and martial powerhouse.

    • @theforsakeen177
      @theforsakeen177 Месяц назад +5

      you only say that because you don't know them that well, ask asians and africans about them you'll get a different take.

    • @johnpombrio
      @johnpombrio Месяц назад +6

      After my wife and I bicycled through the bocage country in Northern France, I beg to differ on friendly native French.

    • @quietus13
      @quietus13 Месяц назад

      @@johnpombrio yes I've heard anecdotes like this, I suppose my "usually friendly" remark was a little charitable. My experience in the South of France and working with French forces in Africa and Central Asia have been pretty positive in terms of congeniality.

    • @WhatsUpLand
      @WhatsUpLand Месяц назад +2

      ​@@theforsakeen177yeah, ask someone who's even lazier

    • @theforsakeen177
      @theforsakeen177 Месяц назад

      @@WhatsUpLand i meant it primarily in the martial context, when it comes to hard work i would recommend you to read up on the working conditions in asia and africa, maybe on the mines in the congo? the stuff that allow you to waste bandwidth here?

  • @courtneyricks500
    @courtneyricks500 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you....I was totally wondering when the stairs end. 😂

  • @microvuette
    @microvuette Месяц назад +3

    The comment on the stairs had me cracking up 😂

  • @thoselog
    @thoselog Месяц назад +3

    "like these god damn stairs!" LOL

  • @whynotfr
    @whynotfr Месяц назад +1

    1:36 you forget England who was our first enemy during almost 500 years...

  • @lordsesshomaru8960
    @lordsesshomaru8960 11 дней назад

    His sense of humor with all this is amazing! It's always on point. No qwerky internet memes just solid humor. 😆

  • @seelypratt
    @seelypratt Месяц назад +3

    The stairs are like an Escher drawing

  • @ruralhobo
    @ruralhobo Месяц назад +15

    Good video and I agree France seems back in the center of things. I would add also because of its agricultural strength. But, living there, I don't see people around me conscious of it. That may be a good thing if it prevents overreach.

  • @TheKorgGadgeter
    @TheKorgGadgeter Месяц назад +2

    "But it was a bit of infrastructure that was built for another age...like these goddamn stairs."
    Dear god that shit was funny.

  • @Ryanowning
    @Ryanowning Месяц назад +2

    Frankly, I think the Poles have a lot more say than this video lets on. The French and Poles have been walking in lock step on so many issues that I don't think it's true that the EU will dissolve, especially since both comprise the two major centers of political power within the EU and the Polish rapid industrialization is incredible. The Eastern bloc and the Western bloc of the EU are both on the same page regarding the war after all.
    I think they'll make it through this because the political will to form an EU army suddenly exists.

    • @ushiefreebird7470
      @ushiefreebird7470 26 дней назад

      The Poles were never important. They were either ruled by the Germans or by Russia. And never underestimate these two.

    • @Ryanowning
      @Ryanowning 26 дней назад

      @@ushiefreebird7470 Their military is almost the size of pre-war Russia on it's own. They're very important now.

  • @engineeranonymous
    @engineeranonymous Месяц назад +36

    EU is not producing new businesses that will move it forward. USA has the ability to reinvent itself if necessary, EU has the ability to set a meeting and negotiate for years if necessary.

    • @murphy7801
      @murphy7801 Месяц назад +11

      Funny you say that but EU has lots new businesses just not in sectors you'd think. Also last time I checked people still want champagne and brie

    • @jager6863
      @jager6863 Месяц назад +1

      The EU is an un-democratic state that is doomed to fail in it's current form. Less government/taxes/regulations, more freedom and civil rights are needed for Europe to be truly great. The people at the bottom suffer under the current system the most and the rich are intent to import illegals to prop up their failed states.

    • @libraryofpangea7018
      @libraryofpangea7018 Месяц назад +1

      That's an assumption you're making not a fact. You have a perception of the EU but you're not basing it off of data you're basing it off of stereotype of bureaucracy.

    • @ab-ym3bf
      @ab-ym3bf Месяц назад +4

      What a nonsense. First of all, "the EU" has no companies, its memberstates have.
      Second,, no business has to wait with a development or production on what the EU decides, so your"ability to set a meeting" is preposterous.
      The difference with the USA is that there is less fuss about it, companies have a difference finance structure, different development platform. There are leading EU companies with developments ahead of others, or on par with others, or even those that the world cannot do without. Think ASML, Zeiss.
      Your Anglo antipathy of the EU is shining through.

    • @karunama3771
      @karunama3771 Месяц назад

      @@ab-ym3bf It really isn't nonsense. You're splitting hairs and arguing semantics. When people say the EU 'has no businesses that will move it forward', they aren't using some silly technicality to be right; the meaning of the phrase is 'Europe doesn't have any Amazon or Google analogs'. Brie and champagne are all well and good, but what matters are new businesses meant to tackle a new world, and the EU doesn't have those. Take a look at the world's richest companies or individuals and where they're based/live/were born/created; any way you measure, Europe lags way behind where it should be. As an outsider looking in, what I see from those statistics is a fatal lack of dynamism.

  • @alantrott6581
    @alantrott6581 Месяц назад +4

    Your walk is a metaphor to your topic

  • @MDowdney3176
    @MDowdney3176 Месяц назад +2

    My eyes are up here Peter!

  • @brucesines7057
    @brucesines7057 Месяц назад +4

    Grasshopper, when walking on stairs, you shall find yourself staring at the ground

  • @williamreymond2669
    @williamreymond2669 Месяц назад +7

    4:20] That is a trail marker, a 'bouey,' just over Peter's left shoulder, question is which of the 'Sentiers de grandé randonnée' runs through Roquebrune-Cap-Martin? I can't find anything on my maps. Looks like a really lovely walk, I'm going to have to try that some year.

    • @gregparrott
      @gregparrott 25 дней назад

      Based on the elevation change, look for a path transiting between Mt. Blanc and the shores of the Mediterranean

    • @williamreymond2669
      @williamreymond2669 24 дня назад

      @@gregparrott Thanks for the reply. I geolocated the video to Roquebrune-Cap-Martin, but I can't figure out which of the 'sentiers de grande randonnée' runs through there even the the white-over-red trail marker clearly indicates that it is a GR.

  • @bigwheelsturning
    @bigwheelsturning Месяц назад +3

    PLEASE Don't do stairs again. Gave me a headache watching this one.

  • @axelfirer8439
    @axelfirer8439 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for the video, Peter. One thing: France has been a net contributor to the EU budget for many years, now. Even if Germany is the single largest net contributor, it is far from being the only one.

  • @edwardneilsen2139
    @edwardneilsen2139 Месяц назад +26

    Lake of the Ozarks is beautiful. I love that area. I have to say, France has always had something of a chaotic political life. They will muddle through this all right.

  • @georgimustakerski9623
    @georgimustakerski9623 Месяц назад +23

    It's not only Germany paying the bill... too simplistic of an overview, Peter.

    • @chrislisenby2681
      @chrislisenby2681 Месяц назад

      Yeah, like the French subsidizing Germany's energy sector due to the French's solar and nuclear power.

    • @sebastiengarnier6664
      @sebastiengarnier6664 Месяц назад +5

      France is a EU net contributor for a long time, contrary to what Peter says. But France is also nearly bankrupt by its debt level. While Italy is on budgetary support. Very worrying

    • @BKYoutube-zq3yv
      @BKYoutube-zq3yv Месяц назад +1

      The Dutch relatively pay the biggest part of the bill if I'm not mistaken. We pay half as much as France with less than 1/3 the population, and we pay twice as much as Italy. The rest of Europe is even lower on the list. It makes sense. A lot of Dutch people won't acknowledge this, even though we carry a very large amount of power in the EU relative to our size, but The Netherlands is basically one giant logistics hub for Europe with excellent ports and infrastructure to move goods by train, river and road. That's what our country is at its core. That's why we have the best quality roads in Europe and possibly the world. Yeah we're also a knowledge economy but that's because we can afford to be, and the people living here need some kind of well educated job to do in the world.

    • @TomTomicMic
      @TomTomicMic Месяц назад

      Germany paid over 20 billion more than France on its contributions to the EU last year. Germany is currently the second biggest contributor to Ukraine (After a very slow start), France is a poor ninth after a slower start (Keil Institute Ukraine Aid Tracker), the US is first and the UK is third, so the best alliance is to follow the Ukraine Aid Tracker for Europe, and it ain't France!?!

    • @paulschmitz9175
      @paulschmitz9175 Месяц назад

      @@BKRUclips-zq3yv My ex-wife was Dutch and as she said, "The Dutch are a country of misers".

  • @joostprins3381
    @joostprins3381 Месяц назад +28

    Not only Germany paid for France, the Dutch are also paying from the start.

    • @hansericsson7058
      @hansericsson7058 Месяц назад +3

      And so did the Swedes

    • @sonneh86
      @sonneh86 Месяц назад +7

      Dutch are Champion when it comes to per capita EU contributions

    • @cyberpotato63
      @cyberpotato63 Месяц назад +2

      @@sonneh86 Fair enough, because the Dutch economically benefit more than any other country in the EU. The Netherlands are Europe's largest trading hub.

    • @nosferatus777
      @nosferatus777 Месяц назад

      @@sonneh86
      Holland? the thieves who steal money from the tax authorities of every European state with their tax haven!! the soulless speculators!!
      what a shame!!

  • @1972jjb
    @1972jjb Месяц назад +2

    You took us through a lot of steps there Peter.

  • @klhilde
    @klhilde Месяц назад +1

    Peter, I sometimes take issue with your content, sometimes to an extreme ... but this video makes up for it.
    Thanks for this.

  • @regancolleenaberson
    @regancolleenaberson Месяц назад +3

    those stairs kept going 😅

    • @scottanno8861
      @scottanno8861 Месяц назад

      11:05 made me spit my drink through my nose 😅

  • @SuprarichSupra
    @SuprarichSupra Месяц назад +4

    These goddamn stairs are what make the difference between lean Europeans and …… North Americans 😂😂😂

  • @timobrien6780
    @timobrien6780 Месяц назад

    I could listen to the quote "Peter Zeihan here...." all day.

  • @andrewpogonowski1793
    @andrewpogonowski1793 Месяц назад +2

    How were you able to continually descend stairs for over 13 minutes and not arrive anywhere….. ?

    • @ptroy72blue
      @ptroy72blue Месяц назад

      😂 it defines European countries going to no where

  • @georgiewalker5826
    @georgiewalker5826 Месяц назад +55

    One thing you can tell with Peters videos is that you can tell how he feels about these issues by the tone of his voice. I get the feeling he is very pro-France and very impressed by their strength and independence. Whereas I can sense maybe a little bit of contempt for Germany, for being putting economic interests over all over other interests, and maybe some contempt for the British due to their perceived bootlicking of the US. I could be wrong.

    • @Zarrov
      @Zarrov Месяц назад

      he seems to like competence and responding to reality. Germans are delusional, Brits are in denial. No one respects that. French since many years are going trough disilusionment and reality check. Italians already passed that process and are in recovery mode. Thats my take on his reactions and reasons behind it.

    • @guywalsh3283
      @guywalsh3283 Месяц назад +33

      I do enjoy Peter’s videos but he is wildly overconfident and somewhat smug. He did a video about the U.K. elections that recently happened and left out so much context about Farage/Reform peeling off all the Red Wall Conservative voters. Peter seems to be completely focused on economics. I would like to see a video by Peter completely focused on the immigration issues in the U.K, the changing demographics, the rise in the Muslim population and the inevitable radicalisation of young, white working class Brits who seem to be completely brushed under the carpet by the ruling class.

    • @Xx-xd3zo
      @Xx-xd3zo Месяц назад +4

      @@guywalsh3283 - Naw, you're saying something's inevitable that isn't. Nice try.

    • @guywalsh3283
      @guywalsh3283 Месяц назад

      @@Xx-xd3zo 700,000 net migration each year from places like Pakistan, India and Nigeria. Significant amounts of illegal immigration too. White working class boys are completely failing in schools. We’re constantly lectured about how racist the U.K. is, even though there’s never been a non white majority country more tolerant than us. Labour will ramp up DEI in the institutions. They tried to stop Brexit. Farage and Reform will most likely grow. Radical Islam will grow. And then BOOM, the drama begins. I would say it’s inevitable. But yes, I could be wrong. I think anyone sane will look into the future and see a huge spike in political polarisation.

    • @gregoryclifford6938
      @gregoryclifford6938 Месяц назад

      More to the point, will the nomination of Vance of the obstructionist Taylor-Green faction as Vice Presidential candidate on the Trump ticket signal 'pulling-the-plug' on Ukraine's defense against Putin the Conqueror?

  • @Frencho9
    @Frencho9 Месяц назад +9

    The Bristish don't have more ships than France. Actually the Royal Navy is disarming type 23 frigates because they lack the crews to man those. Meanwhile france has no manpower issue and FREMM Aquitaine class frigates have double crews, blue and gold like submarines. We can lose a ship in war but still have a crew. It's is faster to built a ship than to train a good crew.

  • @campfireeverything
    @campfireeverything Месяц назад

    This is one of my favourite videos on this channel. I’ve been in Europe for 5 years and this is as an astute forecast as anyone else here can conjure. Also, love the longer format.

  • @poney3839
    @poney3839 Месяц назад

    I'm french and I can tell you : I would not have my dog looked after by our politicians. Let alone my country or the EU.

  • @edwardhirsch8845
    @edwardhirsch8845 Месяц назад +8

    Thanks!

  • @CanadianAnglican
    @CanadianAnglican Месяц назад +14

    Thank you for keeping us updated

  • @appelsappie958
    @appelsappie958 Месяц назад

    Nothing fills my heart more than hearing an American complain about European stairs

  • @jonathanhill6064
    @jonathanhill6064 Месяц назад +2

    Keep up the longer videos. That is too many stairs, don't really want to visit France now.

  • @MistressJaneth
    @MistressJaneth Месяц назад +24

    I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison, where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 weekly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!!🇺🇲❣️♥️♥️

    • @FrankMorgan-sx6qr
      @FrankMorgan-sx6qr Месяц назад +3

      Excuse me for real?, how is that possible I have struggling financially, how was that possible?

    • @MistressJaneth
      @MistressJaneth Месяц назад +2

      Mrs Mary Margaret Schimweg is lord sent!!!

    • @MistressJaneth
      @MistressJaneth Месяц назад +1

      I always appreciate God for his kindness upon my life

    • @BryanEMatthew
      @BryanEMatthew Месяц назад

      YES!!! That's exactly her name (Mary Margaret Schimweg) so many people have recommended highly about her😊 and am just starting with her Brisbane Australia🇭🇲

    • @BrooksClaraMaria
      @BrooksClaraMaria Месяц назад

      Same here, with my current portfolio made from my investments with my personal financial advisor (Mary Margaret Schimweg) I totally agree with you

  • @adamlee2550
    @adamlee2550 Месяц назад +15

    The French can't even lead France rn.

    • @user-aero68
      @user-aero68 Месяц назад +5

      They've been doing just fine for well over 1000 years, rn is just a blip and they have seen much worse through their history

    • @avb4805
      @avb4805 22 дня назад

      Your jealousy is just ridiculous 😂

  • @evlogig
    @evlogig Месяц назад +1

    Please, cover Balkans. No one says anything for Bulgaria, for example. Its like we don't exist 🙂

  • @Noahvelli21
    @Noahvelli21 Месяц назад +3

    Luxemburgers is their new name!

  • @jasonsmith530
    @jasonsmith530 Месяц назад +7

    Informative as always

  • @Scaadoo
    @Scaadoo Месяц назад +1

    Where are these French steps? I thought Peter said he was at the Lake of the Ozarks (but that may have been the prog before)

  • @chrome8675
    @chrome8675 Месяц назад +1

    Peter, You seem to be struggling with realistic and reasonable the direction that France and Its people have decided to seek their future, and independence.

  • @nicholassmith7984
    @nicholassmith7984 Месяц назад +26

    Every video I watch from Peter, all I'm getting is that everything is hopelessly, inevitably fucked.

    • @GK-qc5ry
      @GK-qc5ry Месяц назад

      Pretty much due to a shrinking global population trend

    • @wussrestbrook1200
      @wussrestbrook1200 Месяц назад +1

      Demographics are absolutely fucked. It’s a hail mary on ai and robotics

    • @stopdropnroll
      @stopdropnroll Месяц назад

      @@wussrestbrook1200 spot on, humanoid robots are just human shaped machines. We need plenty of them.

    • @danielsmithiv1279
      @danielsmithiv1279 Месяц назад

      @@wussrestbrook1200 I can't believe some people take A.I. seriously

    • @acidbronson9712
      @acidbronson9712 Месяц назад

      depends on where you're from I guess

  • @kensummers7757
    @kensummers7757 Месяц назад +21

    Peter. “ The U.K. were mad to leave the EU.
    Also Peter:”The EU is fucked”
    😂

    • @michaela7759
      @michaela7759 Месяц назад +5

      UK is much more fucked being out of the EU. Visited Britain( England and Wales,was not in Scotland)) few weeks ago. Depressing, decadent, getting poor very quick

    • @jimjiminy5836
      @jimjiminy5836 Месяц назад +1

      U.K. is seeking a closer relationship with e.u. Uk will always play a big role in Europe whatever.

    • @drscopeify
      @drscopeify Месяц назад +3

      @@michaela7759 What you said is not mutually exclusive, you said UK is decadent but getting poorer? If you said Decadent wealthy class and rising inequality due to wealth moving from middle class to higher end class that work in Finance instead of industry workers, that would make sense to me,

    • @fritztango
      @fritztango Месяц назад +2

      Both can definitely be true. The UK should have had an ironclad commitment for joining NAFTA before leaving the EU. They really screwed that up.

    • @manniking233
      @manniking233 Месяц назад +1

      Peter Zeihan agreed with Brexit. What he didn't agree with is the pathetic indecisiveness that the U.K. government exhibited after. If they were more decisive, they could have gotten a deal with the U.S.A with a dumb Trump in office and made off with lots of concessions. Smh. The U.K. is ran by idiots.

  • @Estenberg
    @Estenberg Месяц назад

    I priced these online: $4.99 to $6.00 per can. That is as or more expensive than both Portuguese Sardines and Norwegian Sardines, which I consider the two best canned Sardines in the world. I am also a fan of the cheapest ones: those canned in the Philippines. Unlike Norwegian & Portuguese Sardines, which are always packed in oil, Filipino sardines have more dynamic sauces, like jalapeño oil, sweet tomato, soy sauce, and spicy tomato (my favorite). But the Filipino sardines also have the most obstructive bones. In fact, the bones are so bad that sometimes I have to peel them off of my tongue so I don't choke. That said, these Bar Harbor Sardines look high-end to me, even without the good sauce. I will try them. Next, do smoked oysters.

  • @tjmozdzen
    @tjmozdzen Месяц назад +1

    Those stairs were amazing - surprised you didn't turn an ankle - where was that filmed! (good thing you weren't bringing luggage to a train or bus stop).

    • @Sylvain_code
      @Sylvain_code Месяц назад +1

      At 2:51 we see a sign about a "arbre millénaire". It's in Roquebrune-Cap-Martin. He's going from "Olivier Millénaire de Roquebrune-Cap-Martin" to "Château Médieval de Roquebrune". The sign is at 43°45'53.6"N 7°27'41.5"E

  • @michaelwyke
    @michaelwyke Месяц назад +4

    😂😂 “like these god damn stairs”. Timing is all. 😅

  • @hankrumpke6027
    @hankrumpke6027 Месяц назад +6

    Those stairs look a lot like Nietzsche's Path in Eze, France!

  • @TheFrenchscot
    @TheFrenchscot Месяц назад

    As a French, the real question is "Can France still exist by 2050?". Because the current demographics and politics all indicate a quick downfall in all aspects and the Olympic Games will prove it once more to the eyes of the World. But let's hope for a miracle, as many happened in very dark moments of the french history.

  • @glenchilada
    @glenchilada Месяц назад +2

    "Like these gd stairs!" 😂😂😂

  • @RandoPandaSmiles
    @RandoPandaSmiles Месяц назад +12

    The candidness was at a maximum here, haha.

  • @jez5192
    @jez5192 Месяц назад +3

    The recent interview Mr. Zeihan did with RNZ is interesting and somewhat surprising. He very confidently stated that Mr Trump stood no chance of winning the coming presidential election. I'm not a US citizen but even before the recent events I thought this to be blinding arrogance.

  • @abr2926
    @abr2926 Месяц назад +1

    Can I get a Luxemberger with extra cheese and fries to go?

  • @laurelinel.claeys5850
    @laurelinel.claeys5850 21 день назад

    Wow, that was so interesting. As a French living in Russia though, I hope the hot war won’t happen to that extend. I’m for giving oriental provinces of Ukraine back to Russia to access peace. And more broadly, I’m for the creation of an Eurasian strength. All together in this amazing continent.

  • @michaelpilos
    @michaelpilos Месяц назад +27

    Unity is the Future ❤

    • @Belaziraf
      @Belaziraf Месяц назад +6

      Yeah. I didn't see the point of that speech. Alone and isolated we are weak. "Pulling in" countries that are not as wealthy isn't as bad as it seems as like for globalization, it will pull up those economies; Besides, they still have to fulfill the requirements for application and integration first. A country viability is more about stability and people's well being, not their wealth. Especially not wealth standards of outside viewers.
      Of course there will be difficulties. And obviously, there will be countries that will never be allowed to join. Not because of democracy (sounds like an American speeach) issues, but because of Human Rights and freedom. Democracy here sounds as if it was the ideal political regime. It is not. It is seen as such as it allows to have more freedom of thoughts, of speech and give them rights. It's wrong to mix freedom and well being with democracy.
      Democracy is but one single possible answer to those too many bad regimes. We may not have reached the answer yet and probably will not in this life time as it would require every citizen to have basic respect for each other. Which would mean no thievery, no murder and no war or conflict of any sort. In short, a utopia.
      Deocracy as we see and live in is imperfect. Some allow better hearing of the people and some limit people from being heard like. Ultimately, people are what makes a country and EU is only a bigger scale. Forget that and we'll go straight down to hell.

    • @pistolen87
      @pistolen87 Месяц назад +1

      National sovereignty dead?

    • @kensummers7757
      @kensummers7757 Месяц назад

      Not likely.

    • @janitorizamped
      @janitorizamped Месяц назад

      ​@@Belazirafwhat is the point of your comment?

    • @michaelpilos
      @michaelpilos 24 дня назад

      @@pistolen87 yes… too small to matter

  • @staceyselleck3624
    @staceyselleck3624 Месяц назад +12

    Not SNAIL. ESCARGOT!

    • @TokyoTaisu
      @TokyoTaisu Месяц назад

      Good point, douze points

  • @johnkopmeier3579
    @johnkopmeier3579 11 дней назад

    Please explain to me how taking away a country's sovereignty and making it subject to unelected bureaucrats in Brussels creates a democracy.

  • @charleyrenfro5766
    @charleyrenfro5766 15 дней назад

    Peter, I always enjoy and appreciate what you have to say on a wide array of relevant topics. But just wondering…did you ever consider sitting down during your conversations?

  • @planetofthepete
    @planetofthepete Месяц назад +16

    Good video - pleasantly balanced and a nice level of historical abstraction. It's good to see the recognition that the EU was created for one purpose: To prevent the tribes of Europe from massacring each other. I'd have added that many of the financial problems from the late 2000's were caused in part by the relaxation of economic stability criteria for candidate members back in the 90's.... but that of course leads into the Euro which is another issue entirely. ... the key thing with the EU: It's an experiment - there has never been such a Supra-National Confederacy with this much authority and power ... it will take some unique solutions to keep it going.

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Месяц назад +3

      This common refrain of the EU "surviving" rarely suggests what the alternative non-survival might look like.
      In the event of a collapse youre not going to see the reintroduction of national trade barriers.
      As we simply have become too accustomed to the single market.
      That is the natural default.
      Import taxes and tariffs are the artificial construction which would need a lot of selling. And cause all sorts of issues.
      Same with mutual travel and work rights. Families and businesses are fully intermingled and multi-national within EU.
      So no matter what inter-European trade and travel are remaining.
      Which is essentially what the core of the EU is.
      In order for the EU to really collapse you need to find a new simpler, more profitable model.
      And it doesnt exist yet.
      Its like, if the US dissolved. Will people from neighboring states cook up a complicated model with borders and taxes and tariffs.
      Or is it way easier and more durable to simply not do that, and just trade freely.
      That method cant collapse, because its the lack of a system, not a system.
      You cant really collapse a non-system, a non-border.

    • @eastcorkcheeses6448
      @eastcorkcheeses6448 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@tedcrilly46, maybe , but the eu can implode , especially when the likes of hungary or even some of the wealthier powers , talk of regaining their former national pride - it didnt take long for britain to lose a lot of their trade privileges, and if a few larger paying in countries want either special treatment - or lower fees , how long would some of the smaller guys stay in ,

    • @planetofthepete
      @planetofthepete Месяц назад +1

      @@tedcrilly46 I agree - This speaks to the resilience of complex systems in the face of challenges. Russia may also experience this dynamic due to a highly centralised model and a lot of political units with little to no blue water access. If the EU were to fracture then it would at the very least coalesce around a few major trading ports - and as you say: likely not introduce trade barriers that would compromise supply chains and social networks.
      the BREXIT camp never understood this - dog whistle politics that ignored measures that were highly dependent on the higher administrative construct. We were 5th largest economy - but in large part due to our access to the wider network of trade, and information.