Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | Spoiler Review & Talk
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, the first film of phase 5 of the MCU), hits theaters this weekend. Here is what I thought of the film!
SKIP AHEAD
00:00 Intro
00:55 Quick Thoughts & Rotten Tomatoes
06:53 Scott Lang Post-Endgame
09:13 Cassie the Rebel & Genius
17:24 Inciting Incident | Janet and Her Secrets
22:38 Star Wars of the MCU!!! Quantum World Building
25:18 Kang
30:10 MODOK
32:20 Scott’s Heist
35:55 Cassie’s Rebellion
40:31 Final Battle
44:32 Epilogue | Post-Credit Scenes
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This video is a review of Ant-Man and the WASP Quantumania, the latest Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) film. The speaker begins by discussing their initial hopes for the film, which include a more focused and urgent plot. They then share their overall positive opinion of the movie and the addition of the much-anticipated villain, Kang the Conqueror. The review notes that Kang's performance, played by Jonathan Majors, is both aggressive and manipulative but also carries a sympathetic edge that adds a new layer to his character. The film's world-building is also highlighted, especially as it delves into the Quantum Realm and introduces different creatures, cultures, and societies. The reviewer likens the movie to Flash Gordon in terms of its overall tone and goofiness. The review is highly positive and concludes with the statement that the missing piece of the MCU has been found with Kang's arrival.
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Synopsis
Scott Lang and Hope van Dyne, along with Hope's parents Hank Pym and Janet van Dyne, go on a new adventure exploring the Quantum Realm.
Directed by Peyton Reed
Written by Jeff Loveness
Based on
Ant-Man
by Stan Lee
Larry Lieber
Jack Kirby
Produced by Kevin Feige
Starring
Paul Rudd
Evangeline Lilly
Michael Douglas
Michelle Pfeiffer
Kathryn Newton
Jonathan Majors - Kang
Randall Park
Music by Christophe Beck
Production
company
Marvel Studios
Distributed by Walt Disney Studios
Motion Pictures
Based on the marvel comics comic book characters.
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This video contains Sean Chandler Talks About's Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | Spoiler Review & Talk
Alternative Titles
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Review - A new era for the MCU"
"Kang the Conqueror: The MCU's most dangerous villain"
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania World Building - A deep dive into the Quantum Realm"
"Kang's Charm and Menace - The Performance that stole the show in Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania"
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Movie Review - The missing piece of the MCU found"
"Flash Gordon of the MCU - Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania Review"
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - The much-needed focus and urgency for the MCU"
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - The true threat of Kang the Conqueror"
"Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - A wild ride through the Quantum Realm"
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My favorite part was definitely when all the ant men started working together like ants. It’s one of the few times the visuals looked really good.
Yep it was an amazing sequence.
I feel like MODUK is the sole reason for the bad criticism, because Kang was the show stealer while MODUK was a joke.
And then kang went and popped his ward of dawn for that weapons of light
@@c_l_a_d_d_i_x Lmao I see you’re a man of culture
@@rocketrigby5845 I whispered titan bubble to my girlfriend next to me when It happened and I had several people cackle behind me. The joke was a success
The first thing I thought when Cassie was talking about building the Quantum communicator was
"Cassie Lang was able to build this in a basement! With a box of scraps!"
My friend literally turned to me and said this in the theater
Imo the humor in this one was much better than Thor 4 because this one had funny situations (Modok, holes etc.) vs the characters and heroes constantly cracking jokes in situations where they shouldn’t. This one felt more like classic mcu with humor interlaced with serious things when Thor 4 felt just like a big joke that none of the characters took seriously. There was obviously a tone problem here but it’s in all of the mcu movies and I don’t really have much of an issue with it
Yeah I fully agree with you - Thor 4 was definitely much more egregious in this regard, and I thought that this movie had enough moments where they completely stopped with the jokes, in order to make the serious moments land. I understand the critics’ perspectives on the tonal issues, but I can’t say it impeded on my enjoyment as much as it did for them.
@@irreplaysable Just imagine if they pulled a Thor 4 moment in the de powered Kang fight. I can’t even think of the corny line he’d say
@@ultimateslinger9857 yeah omg that would have been terrible
I didn’t hate that Thor movie but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get that criticism.
I dont have to win, we both have to lose. Instantly proceeds to win with no stakes of being stuck in the quantum realm
Ikr! Like it was so cheap that they just get to go back. Would've been so much better if they were stuck in there cuz that would add stakes and consequences.
Agreed didn't like how that ended
@@therealmrnoobr0blxI'm only assuming they didn't go that route due to it happening in the previous film.
My biggest complaint is that Scott's friends aren't in the movie.
Literally my same feeling
I did wish they were in here although I don’t know exactly what their purpose would be in the film.
@@michaelnally2841 I think they could have maybe showed up in one of his montages at the beginning or end? Or maybe when they had dinner or something?
@@rpgranked possible
Oh snap, I forgot about them! No disrespect but I did not think of them when I saw it
The Kang dynasty scene. Holy crap. The council of Kangs finally.
Yeah, avengers 5 can’t come soon enough. Where are Wanda, Thor and Captain Marvel where you need them because good god the avengers will need them against the Kang Dynasty.
@@scruffd0g193 Don’t forget Hulk (rampaging version)
that was ripped straigth outta the comics
I think what made Kang so threatening is how distant Jonathan Majors plays him. He's in touch with some part of his humanity but he's also so cold and solemn towards all the feelings people have for him. He doesn't care because he knows so much more than the people he's fighting, and in his mind that justifies his mission in every way. Majors did an amazing job adding so much to the character, making him feel human and so distinctly inhuman at the same time.
Probably helps that no one is joking and all the other characters take him seriously as a threat except maybe Scott when he first meets Kang. But you could argue that’s nerves or he’s trying to keep Cassie from getting scared.
7.5 for me. I really enjoyed it. I thought they handled MODOK as good as they could have. He's a wildly ridiculous character and I never thought he could be a main villain. I personally like that they used Darren. It made sense.
Also, I love the fact that they used the comic look. I didn’t know they were, and it looked as weird as I imagined 😂
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Given the character of Modok is generally a creation of A.I.M. and not really the most interesting villain I get trying to add depth like making him Darren. Although I just wish they didn’t do the CGI face.
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Sean absolutely hit the nail on the head. I’m liking Marvel movies less and less because the same problems are in every movie recently(minus Wakanda Forever) and aren’t being fixed. There’s been 18 projects in the last 2 years, and most of them have suffered from this problem. I felt Quantumania was painfully meh and a step down from the first 2
I personally enjoyed it more than ant man and the wasp but that’s my least favourite marvel film. This one was painfully mediocre and I’ve already forgotten a lot on it.
I don’t at all think this Kang is dead tbh. His “death” was VERY similar to that of Darren’s in Ant Man. We see him get shrunk down and vanish, but not lying dead and breathless. If you notice too, his death kinda looked like it was going into a crystallized structure just like the energy source for his ship. So I think he actually teleported out of there unintentionally, and the other Kang’s simply BELIEVE he is dead. I have a strong feeling this Kang will return in Kang Dynasty and ultimately end up victorious over the others
In regards to the Council of Kang’s, the three main ones there were Immortus (the one with a raspy type voice and the emperor looking clothes. The comics Immortus is a lot like He Who remains but in the MCU they’re two separate characters. Rama Tut was the Egyptian one and actually the first ever Kang variant to appear in the comics, in an issue of Fantastic 4. Then the last one is I THINK Scarlet Centurion but his design is a lot different here. Then finally the one in the Loki scene was Victor Timely, who was Kang Prime who time traveled back to the past to set up his future rule
All in all, despite its flaws, I really loved this movie and would give it a 8.5/10. The future of the MCU is very bright imo
I mean, his engine was called the multiversal core - so i think he got sucked right into the multiverse itself. Could mean basically anything
Yeah I understand the hate for the film, but I was burned out on the MCU and now I’m super excited for the future
@@maday5-019Just saw it, I’m convinced MODUK sunk the movie with all the critics.
yes this all sets up avengers 5. Where are Thor, Wanda and Captain Marvel when you need him because the avengers will need them in this huge multiverse war.
Great in-depth analysis of Kang and his variants!
I think this Kang was the He Who Remains reset because at the end of Loki he said he’ll end back on top anyway. Now that presumably Scott and Hope killed him now the Other Kangs are now free to do whatever they want without another Kang replacing He Who Remains.
Kang dynasty is gonna be earth shattering, Avengers better hope WANDA isn’t dead, also call up Thor and captain marvel they need all the hope they can get against the Kang dynasty
I was pleasantly surprised by the movie when I got out of the cinemas. I thought both visually and on a worldbuilding basis, it was leagues ahead than most of the other MCU output over the past few years. I also did not notice the tonal problem as much as critics did. However, I would say that the one major problem I had with it was the lack of development in the relationship between Hope and Scott. Throughout the movie, they barely even interacted, which felt like an odd juxtaposition with how their dynamic was explored in the previous movies. For me, it just made the “I love you” at the end ring really hollow, particularly when they ended up just making their way back to the real world straight afterwards anyway. Idk - we have seen through WandaVision that Marvel is clearly capable of developing good romances, so it feels like they really dropped the ball with this one.
“He’s stopping worse Kangs from conquering” so true !!!
I personally feel like there’s a difference between popping in quickly to the Quantum Realm to suck up some energy and sending ongoing communication with it. Remember in that post credit scene Scott was supposed to be in and out if not for the snap.
If Janet hadnt freaked out so hard at the idea of them doing anything quantum realm related id get that, but it felt like she pulled a 180. Some of the logic issues I had like that made me wonder how preconceived the movies plans were before end game
I thought she cleared this up by the “you didn’t look deep enough” line. She sent Scott down there at a controlled distance. I don’t know why people are calling it a plot hole. I mean even in the second movie, she told hank to go down to a very specific location. She freaked out cuz she wasn’t there to over see what Cassie was doing. Sending someone down to a specific location is completely different than sending down an unsupervised signal.
7.7/10 pretty solid film, i actually thought they didn’t over do it with the comedy like they usually do. It was just maybe a bit too much star wars like for me, too much CGI. I thought that the end fight was amazing, I didn’t like how Kang was written off.
Just watched it and thought kang being killed was pretty good. He was destroyed by his own creation and his craving for conquering.
My Spoiler Thoughts
Scott Lang Post-Endgame: Pretty much agree with everything you said. Just wish we spent more time in San Fran before getting thrust in the Quantum Realm.
Cassie the Rebel & Genius: I like that Cassie is trying to help everyone. We know that Scott is her hero, she grew up watching him help those in need. They overtly state this in the second movie, she tells her dad that she wants to be his partner. So from her point of view, he's taking the easy way out, he saved the universe and now he's taking it easy. Whereas she sees the world in a different way and is trying to push her dad to be her hero again. Even in the Quantum Realm, she continues to push her dad. He doesn't want to help the Freedom Fighters, he just wants to get out. But she sees people in need. I do wish that this was more in the center of the story, as it gets lost in all the grand scope stuff. And I think this idea would've worked better in a movie outside of the Quantum Realm.
As for Cassie being a genius now, I didn't have a problem with it. Again, it was rushed. We just get lines of dialogue of how she's been studying Hank's work and all. It makes sense, I mean look she probably studied a lot during the Blip on how to save her dad. But I wish they would've showed more of her genius rather than just tell us. Everything in San Fran was rushed just to get to the Quantum Realm, and I didn't like that.
Inciting Incident: To start off I didn't even connect the dots between the Ant-Man and the Wasp post-credit scene where they send Scott into the Quantum Realm and the inciting incident here until you brought it up. It is very weird. Like Janet was there in the post-credit scene, if she knew how dangerous the Quantum Realm, was why would she sign off on sending Scott there, even if it was for 10 seconds. To me, it just feels like the post-credit scene was necessary for Endgame and they didn't care about it for the context of this movie. I mean yes, Ant-Man and the Wasp was written way before they had any ideas on what this movie would be like, but still, it's frustrating, I feel like this could've been somewhat fixed with a few lines of dialogue, but no, we just have to get straight to the Quantum Realm in this movie
Star Wars of the MCU: Not much here. I liked exploring the Quantum Realm. It felt a lot like Star Wars to me, but as soon as we got there, I wish we went with another direction for the third movie of this franchise. It just didn't fit with its predecessors. Everything in the Quantum Realm felt like it would've worked better as a Disney+ show set in between Ant-Man and the Wasp and a proper third Ant-Man movie. Would've it have been ambitious for a Disney+ show, sure. But I don't particularly care.
Also, we spent a lot of time just meandering in the Quantum Realm before meeting Kang, but all of the time spent is pointless because it's all just exposition and characters telling us about the impending doom. I wish we could've actually explored the Quantum Realm.
Kang: Not much here either. I loved Kang in this movie. Agree with everything said.
MODOK: Similarly, MODOK didn't work for me. I think he could've worked better as the main villain of another Ant-Man project later down the road. Just didn't fit with Kang at all.
Was gonna touch on all the chapter markers, but I ended up agreeing with you a lot near the end haha.
In the end, the movie was fun, but poorly paced and I just wish they went in a different direction
I gave it a B
Fun, well-made movie, but should've been a lot better
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I agree with everything you said.
@@lukerota1547 thank you 🙏🏻
It was okay movie for me. I liked it but definetely not top movie. 7,5/10 I think.
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I feel like the whole Janet situation about her not being worried in Ant-Man and the Wasp may be related to the fact that in Ant-Man and the Wasp, they weren't sending signals, they were just sending Scott inside (And Hank before that), so there was no way Kang could've detected it. Even on Quantumania, she was pretty chill about Cassie building the quantum manipulator UNTIL she heard it was sending signals. Before that, she had only heard it was a map of some sort. It wasn't until just after Cassie talked about signals that she started panicking.
Been waitin’ for this one. Let’s go!!
I couldn’t relate more to what you said about the out of theater excitement fizzling over the last couple of years. I told my dad after the movie that I just don’t remember the last time other than Spider-Man that I felt giddy and blown away after watching a marvel movie like I did in phases one through three.
Idk why no one is talking about this, the movie should have been longer, like cassie should've gotten a character arc, they should've spent more time in the real world, and they should have had more world building, and explore the rebellion and the quantum realm more, so maybe it should've have been 20 or 30 minutes longer
I saw Quantumania last night, and I currently think that is just okay-maybe leaning mixed-negative. However there are very noticeable issues with this movie for me that are part of a growing problem with the Muliverse Saga as a whole so far, and I have a lot of things about this that I feel I need to discuss. Between Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness, I am starting to believe that Marvel is afraid to make smaller and self-contained stories. If you think about it, the first Ant-Man and the first Doctor Strange were both focused on their characters and very sparingly touched on connections to the wider MCU, and many fans over the years complained about how they were not relevant enough to the wider overarching story and were too boring compared to Avengers and other big Marvel crossover movies. So it seems that with Ant-Man and the Wasp, they tried to appease this vocal section of the fandom by constantly reminding them within the movie of how it takes place after Civil War, and giving exposition to how the quantum realm will possibly factor into Endgame. Then with Multiverse of Madness, they hijacked what should have been the next step in the development of Dr. Strange’s self-contained character arc by giving exposition into how the multiverse works and seeming cutting out the 2nd act at the last minute and replacing it with Illuminati cameos. And now with Quantumania, they got rid of Luis and the supporting characters from the first two Ant-Man movies and rushed right into the quantum realm where the entire cast of this movie is sidelined in favor of exposition for Kang. It’s almost as if Marvel was afraid that they would lose the attention of a portion of the fans if they didn’t force exposition for Secret Wars into these regular releases instead of saving cameos and setup for an actual crossover event movie. Instead of quickly jumping from Endgame to setup for the next end-of-saga event, Marvel should have had Phase 4 build up to a smaller Avengers movie on the level of the first or second that they could then use as a starting point for the ground work of the Multiverse Saga. But I imagine that not wanting to upset a portion of the fandom with an Avengers movie that is not an Endgame-level experience, Marvel decided to have the next proper crossover event be at the very end of the saga in five to six years and relegating groundwork for the next big event to Ant-Man and Dr. Strange movies. With both of these two sub-franchised just happening to be the one that this portion of the fandom have complained about for not having enough connectivity and spectacle. I fully respect MCU fans that are already excited for the next big end-of-saga event and one who wish that some movies have more connectivity, but self contained-regular releases are what give films like Infinity War and Endgame the weight and significance in addition to the scope and spectacle. The best parts of Quantumania for me were the beginning and end when we got to see Scott, Cassie, and the Pyms as a family now, and I felt that needed to constitute the entire first act instead of the first five to ten minutes. When I was watching the movie, It seemed like there was a first act about the Pym family and a second act about the world building of the people of the quantum realm that were completely cut out so we could hurry up and get the the Kang exposition. I also thought that MODOK was a good enough character for what he was given, but he was just there in addition to the empty setup. If Marvel focused on Quantumania as an individual production rather than an exposition piece, they could have had something of a double act where MODOK was the eccentric comic relief and Kang was the serious straight man. Like I said, Quantumania was not terrible but not great either for me, but I am incredibly frustrated that Marvel has hijacked another regular release in favor of empty groundwork for the Multiverse Saga. But with the entire Pym family serving this movie at the end, I hope that Marvel can take the opportunity for one last smaller, self-contained, and personal Ant-Man movie before Kang Dynasty.
I’ve been waiting for this spoiler review, and you did not disappoint!
I honestly agree with everything you said.
Just realized that perhaps Tony had bequeathed the glasses to Peter “a dead teenager” on purpose as 1) a way of honoring his name and character, but also 2) ensuring that no one got that technology.
Though I wonder if SHIELD or some government agency would have seized that tech if there was no living recipient…
I really hope they bring back M.O.D.O.K., he is easily a villain Marvel can use in multiple movies, like Loki. Although I love Corey Stoll, I would prefer who M.O.D.O.K. actually is, George Tarelton. I don’t care if it’s a Variant or if Kang just picks some random guy to take over the mantle, I want one of my favorite comic book character to have way more time in the spotlight.
I watched it yesterday... It was fun but I had some certain issues with it... i'd give it a 6.9/10
This is a fantastic review. Maybe my favourite of yours, nailed every point
I personally enjoyed it
It was a fun time I give it a 8/10 I honestly don’t see the hate to it
I’m not one to hate the MCU I love ALL the projects being that said I don’t hate anything from the mcu but I don’t love everything either like éternels I’ve seen once I need to watch again but long story short I love the MCU and I always will this was a great set up to kang dynasty and I can’t wait to see it again
Edit - the one negative I do have
Is no Luis
I agree with a lot of what you said. But for me it wasn’t MODOK, it was just the uninspired nature of the quantum realm. It wasn’t a cool, jaw-dropping place for a movie to be set, it was like a bad episode of doctor Who, or a spy kids movie.
I definitely agree there was a lot of missed potential with Scott and Cassie’s relationship. I feel like there are still ways to explore their disconnect even with this quantum realm storyline. Scott missed 5 years of his daughter’s life. She’s a completely different person now than the little girl he left behind. There’s so much potential there for emotional character arcs but it’s barely touched on at all. Instead, we get MODOK, easily the most embarrassing thing the MCU has ever done.
Saw the movie last night and I didn’t enjoy it. I don’t feel like Kang is really a threat and I agree there should had been more consequences
This right here. Kang has now died in every project he's appeared in and hasn't killed anyone or made a presence.
22:18 in the ant man 2 post credit scene i’m pretty sure they say they are sending him to the quantum realm to get particles so they can study it, I think that’s why Janet is on with it
I got the sense that Cassie had significant help from Hank and Hope in building the device, yes she learned a lot and had the idea after reading Hanks journal, but it seemed like Hank and Hope were clearly helping. Also, why are so many people convinced that Kang is dead? I know the other variants mention it at the end but it seems like that could very easily be a misdirect
I think Tony changed his will the day before. He had time to record his hologram among other things in case of his death, so he thought ahead what could happen. So he hoped the plan would work and bring everybody back, and in the case of his untimely death he updated his will just in case. So in that head canon far from home makes a lot more sense😃👍 He was optimistic that the plan would work and therefore he prepared Peter for a new life without him. That note was very short so if he hadn't die Tony would throw it away.
The mcu has a real problem recently with making just randomly smart teenagers.
I really really liked this one. I thought it was funny and charming, nothing special and not devoid of flaws but a good time.
Great commentary on Cassie's character Sean! I thought the same thing
When Modak revealed his face I laughed really loud in theaters thinking it was hilarious and the rest of the theater was dead quite
6/10 for me, just for Kang
I think that MODOK had the potential to become the darth Maul of the mcu. He could hate ant man for turning him into a monster and becoming a slave to Kang and he could even trying to kill Cassie for revenge. But they made him a goofy character that died in the end.
I felt like this movie suffered greatly from the same issues that, Thor Ragnarok & Multiverse of Madness suffered from.
There'll be a serious scene that has tension and building it up.. Only for it to throw a joke at us. Thus cutting the tension and undermining the entire scene...Just like Ragnarok.
It felt like there was so much potential to show us a lot of interesting stuff and really explore the quantum realm... But it just gave us the most boring, uninteresting version of the world that we could have gotten...Like in Multiverse of Madness
I don't know what more u wanted to experience from the quantum realm. This was a great movie it was antman not avengers so keep your expectation according to the movie..
@@suzrysai6368I wasn't at all expecting an avengers movie. I was expecting an antman movie that was still goofy. But not THIS level of goofy. The humor is ONCE AGAIN too much. Maybe that's Disney's fault, I don't know. But they gotta learn to dial it back.. We don't need a joke thrown in our faces every 30 seconds. Just because it's an Ant-man movie. Doesn't mean they should be trying so hard to make us laugh. Which sadly has become a common re-occurring issue in the MCU. Every joke feels forced. Which messes with the tone and the characters.
I think maybe what you could be missing from the inciting incident is that she gets anxious when she hears they are sending a signal down to the quantum realm. If I recall she seems fine when she thinks it is just a device that is viewing or mapping it.
I also think that their research of the quantum realm in the previous film was so much on the surface that perhaps she wasn’t worried about it. I mean these are stretch explanations and it is a marvel movie so it hardly needs to make a ton of sense but they certainly could have done better.
I think there was about 3-4 times in this movie I can remember when a character has 2 guards escorting them and they break free from the guards. Kang has this massive army and he can only spare 2 guys for his most valuable hostages? Even after they break free and then get captured again later?
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I gave it an 8/10. Could possibly lower to 7.5/10 after another watch but I enjoyed it. Worst part for me was the visual aesthetics of MODOK cause, like you said in the non-spoiler review, it felt like my eyes were going cross eyed. I’ve had vertigo twice in my life and man I felt the same way looking at him.
I did not necessarily feel the tone was drastically changing but naturally changing. A lot of relatable humor aside from Modok. Tbh I just have never been a fan of Modok whether that’s in the comics or the Ultimate Alliance Game.
Kang is….wow. I can say that based off what I have seen that I understand his motive and like his villain role more than Thanos as crazy as it sounds.
Beginning and end of the movie was weird. I feel like there was a few cuts missing from both sides. What was even the point of the last scenes of the movie on Earth(yes I know the QR is still on Earth but smaller). If you cut that out the movie still goes the same. The beginning I wish we could have seen more of Cassie and be able to understand where she is coming from. I do understand why people can be confused why Janet would have her mood change about the QR suddenly in the beginning of this movie compared to the end of Ant-Man & The Wasp but it is possible that Janet was specifically giving Scott direction to a completely different part of the QR that Kang would not be able to find him or track them. It would be like if Aliens went to the edge of our solar system, in all likelihood we wouldn’t know and if we did then it would be way too late. Gotta remember the QR is like another universe and is huge.
Michelle Pfeifer(Might be butchering the spelling) was great. Michael Douglas was solid. Hope….kinda disappointed in her role in her and Ant-Man’s movies. I mean The Wasp has always been important and sometimes more important than Ant-Man in the comics. They treat these movies like she’s a Nightwing to Ant-Man’s Batman if that makes any sense. If you titled this Ant-Man: Quantumania nobody would bat an eye cause they aren’t using her like a major character. She comes in to save the day but we have had little character development from her and that is one of the top issues i’ve had with the MCU.
Again I enjoyed it. It felt like a Wizard of Oz type of vibe. New place with crazy people/creatures. Antagonist wants something from the Hero and their life and family are being threatened.
But that ending scene with Scot having those internal conversations was cool though. That he might have done something bad, what if everyone dies because of this and did they really kill him. It puts uncertainty even in our minds " is he really dead?" And i think he will come back most likely
30:16 I only remember one scene in which they were together and Kang did shut him up in that scene.
44:34 Scott got stuck in a time vortex.
I personally think that Janet's issue with what they were doing with the quantum realm was specifically the signal being sent down. Maybe Kang could track her through it. But Scott going down into the realm for 10 seconds nobody would know where he came from. And I also thought they said something about where they were being even deeper than Scott had been. So maybe that's the reason for it?? I don't know that's just my best guess.
I dug the movie. Maybe it's just special because I got to see it tonight for my birthday...but I really liked it. MODOK was just as ridiculous as you said...but his 'origin story' and initial introduction did make me laugh!!
I think with Modok's design they should have taken inspiration from Zola in winter soldier. In the comics Zola is a goofy face on the chest of a robot which would have taken away from the tone of the film so instead they made him a supercomputer in a bunker. I understand staying loyal to the original design but sometimes artistic deviation is necessary
My personal opinion:
Ant man and the wasp Quantumania was amazing. GREAT plot, BEST villain in the entire MCU besides Thanos, best MCU movie of phase 4, overall solid 9-9.5/10 for me! Screw the reviews! Well made movie, more serious tone than the last two ant man movies, Not too many jokes, but just enough- Gave me hope for the future of the MCU movies again!
My only gripe is the modok thing but I mean what else were they really gonna do with modok ever? Just a little too silly imo but still was fine with it.
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Yeah, I leaned over to my dad and quoted one of my favorite Dr. Evil lines: "No I'm just gonna leave them to die and hope everything went to plan." Or at the very least, I just commented in general about Kang not bothering to check that his enemies are dead.
In the post credit scene they had control and knew where Scott would be going in the quantum realm. Everything was under moderation to make sure it was safe. Cassie’s device was a signal just to the general quantum realm which could have reached anywhere
I think the explanation for why Janet wasn’t concerned about the quantum realm in Ant-man and the wasp was explained in a line or two when she said that there was a world deeper in the realm. Perhaps they weren’t sending Scott down to the part that was actually inhabited.
I enjoyed the movie. This is the first time since before Endgame that we actually got a tease of what’s to come. A view of the bigger picture. I’m so hype
The movie wasn’t terrible like some people said but it didn’t blow me away. 5/10
I think the reason there feels like there’s a gap in Janet’s behavior after end game to this movie is because Scott got stuck in a time vortex so time basically didn’t move for him for 5 years and Janet spent 30 years in the QR
I hear all your concerns about how this movie could've been in the real world and told a more personal story between Scott and Cassie. But honestly, the logical progression of the Ant-Man franchise for me had to be eventually them going into the Quantum Realm and spending the whole movie there, and what better movie to do it than the end of a trilogy. Put it this way, the quantum realm's been such an important part of every movie Scott's been in, there's no way they wouldn't have actually shown us the world.
i don’t know about modok’s CGI, I feel like it was better then I expected it to be, I thought it would be cheaply rendered stretched face, but it looked as good as they could’ve made it look, I think they should’ve saved modok for a later movie, where he could really fit the tone.
For me the reason Cassie knows how to fight in the suit and such is because of Hank and Hope… they taught Scott in the first one and I feel like they had a part in it. We know at the start that they are in on it a bit it never really says they are helping but that’s how I think of it I guess.
Modoks face could of looked ok if they matched the lighting of his face to the scenes so he had actual depth to his face and blended it better to the suit, it just looked like a flat image pasted on the suit
Really enjoyed it!
Re:why Janet was okay with Scott in the QR in post-credits scene: there are different levels to the QR/QR is large enough that Kang wouldn't detect Scott. It would explain why various people did/didn't experience time travel.
Really enjoyed this movie a lot.
Hate how all the critics almost made me not watch the movie I honestly liked it I give it a 7/10 wish they didn’t just kill off MODOK and used him as a more serious villain he could have not been added to the movie and it wouldn’t have mattered wish the tone was more serious as what he said in his video
@@damaribrackett1159totally agree, thing is MODUK has always been a humor comedy comic book character, once Kang was introduced he stole the show.
Not gonna lie I hope the Ahsoka live action show has similar vibes… Thrawn out in the Unkown regions in the this “New Beyond”, and he needs something to escape with his new army he’s been building
I personally wish we got to explore this variant of Kang more.. The MCU is just killing off villains left and right and not allowing us to build any sort of relationship with the character.
Dylan Durrance Oh trust me, this Kang will be back. Don’t for a second believe he’s dead. His “death” was VERY similar to that of Darren’s “death” in Ant Man. I think he just shrunk down and vanished to another realm. My theory is that he’s either within the multiverse itself somewhere, or the Beyondverse. Either way, I definitely believe this specific Kang will return, along with the Council obviously
No chance this Kang is dead. He'll be the final boss Kang for the Avengers to take down
I think the reason Janet was reacting differently to quantum realm stuff in this movie compared to endgame is because of specifically what was being done with the quantum realm. In endgame and ant man and the wasp, the quantum stuff was a short term travel through the realm or quickly collecting samples. In this movie, Cassie was specifically sending a signal down to the quantum realm and planning to do long term stuff there.
Hi Sean, the scene from the ant man 2 movie where janet sends scott lang to the quantum realm is to take healing particles for ghost and also he went to the outer most layer of the quantum realm, as janet explained in the quantuamina that quantuam realm is different as u shrink smaller and smaller so janet was okay in sending Scott to the quantum realm because he was sent to the outer layer of the realm not to deep where kang could find him or he'd be in trouble.
I enjoyed the film a lot it's probably in my top 10 film of the mcu. Unlike no way home where dr strange and Peter were just to lazy to talk over a spell, here janet has no idea about the quantum device and she's just happy that they've made something remarkable and cassie wasn't the only person who made this device she had some help with hank and hope, reason why they didn't tell Scott about it is coz he was just praising over himself for saving the world and stuff. Kang is done justice he fabulous in this film, well sure cassie arc might have been skipped over but overall I didn't mind (just my opinion on it) my main priority was kang and the connection to the multiverse for which they did wonderfully better than multiverse of madness. When it comes to modak It worked for me in this film but what didn't work was killing him off instead of making him escape the quantum realm, where he could return in future projects but unfortunately they didn't do that but fight scene, visuals story was huge improvement over phase four films like multiverse of madness. I enjoyed the film a lot. 8/10 for this film it could have been better but it was amazing and satisfying.
Antman 3 missed out debut's for Black Ant, Black Goliath, Atlas. Being multiverse would've been cool using younger versions of Hank & Janet in their prime as the original Antman & Wasp.
Overall I agree with your initial nitpicks on the film it's what stuck out to me the most. I was also getting serious Tron vibes from Kang's minions and the music when Bill Murray's character was introduced.
Personally I think that they should have killed off a few major characters. That would establish Kang as a huge threat, and it would mean that the avengers movies would be a bit less crowded
I’m pretty sure when they first got to the quantum realm janet explained that it had layers so i think that the reason janet was okay with going into the quantum realm with the van was because it was a layer Kang couldn’t reach
Jonathan Majors is so good in his role as Kang that I felt bad for him when Janet found out that he is evil.
Hey Sean just thought you should do a ranking of all the mcu projects since endgame because ant man and the wasp quantum mania makes it 20th since endgame (if you include I am groot and all the disney plus shows)
For me it's a 7/10. I liked quite a bit of stuff and there was also a lot that didn't work for me.
Jonathan Majors as Kang was the absolute standout for me and I really felt like Kathryn Newton as Cassie was a great addition to the cast.
I adored the world building of the Quantum Realm and that kind of world building was what I originally wanted from Multiverse of Madness.
But I wanted a lot more from it especially because this was supposed to be a big introduction to Kang.
I needed more darkness and higher stakes for it to feel like a necessary story and then they decided to defeat Kang with ants and immediately killed him off and so the movie felt fun but really unnecessary.
I wanted more from Scott and Cassie's relationship because a lot of it felt really surface level (I generally found there to be a lack of character development throughout the movie).
And one of the most frustrating things about the movie for me was Janet. Her not telling them anything felt like such an overused and tired trope and a lot could have been avoided if there was either a reason for her to not tell them anything (other than her wanting to protect them because that's the usual justification) or her actually being honest.
For me I liked it fine. I agree with you on it being a wired direction for the ant-man franchise. What I like about the ant-man movies is him interacting in the real world. (Making cars into hot wheels cars, giant people ect.) When you put them in the quantum realm, it takes away some of the fun. It feels like it's trying to be guardians of the galaxy with the different world.
Something I noticed early on that kind of bothered me with the mechanics of Pym particles was Hank's use of drops to enlarge a mini pizza into one to feed the whole family. It's funny for the nanosecond before you realize that Ant-Man could have solved world hunger! 🤔
That was easily the best, most elaborate, spot on breakdown to QM! You thoroughly explained the highs, the flaws and the glaring lows.
You're the maestro of MCU movie breakdowns, I salute and applaud you. Amazing job bro, & I tweeted @KevFeige & tagged your breakdown. Hope he watches it, he can get some provoking insight!
I’d give it an 8/10, it was good imo
Yea I actually enjoyed it and I didn't care for any of the 3 offerings from last year I was pleasantly surprised
Ehhh, it was fun nothing more nothing less. I’d say a 6/10 personally
Sheep 🐑 3.5 movie.
@@YaBoyCori how am I a sheep for having an opinion?
I basically agree, it wasn't bad. If I was to watch it a second time I think the novelty and spectacle will wear off and it won't be no where near as good tbh
I liked it and thought it was good, but definitely not great.
Kang, Ant-Man, and Janet were all great, loved them, but I felt I definitely had some issues with the rest of it.
When it was serious it was really good, but it REPEATEDLY undercut itself with bad humor, particularly with MODOK and the rebels. Also, it wasn’t even an Ant-Man and The Wasp film, Hope was disappointingly absent. Also, I totally agree that Cassie was a HUGE missed opportunity. For example, she says about the quantum telescope thing; “if I had built this while you were in the quantum realm I could’ve found you.” That would’ve been a good way to show that she wasn’t just naturally adept at Quantum science lol, she was desperate to learn whatever she could to find Scott.
I personally really liked the first 2, and I do like this one, but it could’ve been much better. It’s a 7/10 for me personally.
Hey Sean 2 thoughts on the movie
1. for me Darron cross MODOK was like Topher Grace as Venom I like them when they are full suited in their character but they look is the problem whenever I try to take it seriously and if you remove them or edit them out of the movie the movie is MUCH MUCH better.
2. As far as the Quantum realm problem I didn't mind that because in the last 2 Ant-Man movies their a like different layers to the super small and that the quantum realm is not like 1 place their like a voyage downward like when they where shrinking you could see them passing through smaller more bizarre things and I think that since the Quantum realm is entirely outside of time their was like a area in between the real realm and the Quantum Realm where its kind of half in half, and in the first Ant Man he goes subatomic but returns to Cassie in almost real time I get why their a little bit of a plot hole their but that didn't bother me to much
I agree with you I think the first act should have been longer to establish fuller character arcs and to expand on the relationship between the ant family. Overall still liked the film not perfect at all but I enjoyed it most of it and was neutral for the rest the whole way through B- would watch again
MODOK looks pretty ridiculous in any medium including the comics and I appreciate that the film embraced it
I mean it is a comic book movie and I appreciate that the MCU has been embracing some of the more ridiculous and whacky side of the comics
@Do Good I think MODOK was made ridiculous looking on purpose😂
There are a lot of setup catch-up things to keep a look out for at the start of the movie, and I do think it leaves a good point for a more well suited Ant-Man 3, leaving this movie as a sort of Ant-Man teamup flick (maybe called Shrinkers! or something. idk), but for product reasons that is a hard workout and can be dismissed with the old “People just watch the last season of most TV shows and play catch up to make it fun.”
It seems rather apparent Marvel wanted this movie to come out before gotg3 cause that is the first “Oh yeah Kang is also the actual villain, he set up whatever happened in this flick. Doesn’t he make a good Quarritch, yeah?”
BTW Sean from the way you speak about the details and set up for this movie, it kinda seems like you’re justifying your biggest gripe with not acknowledging character development and side plots can take place offscreen.
I wish Kang had so much more screen time. The fist 50 minutes they kept mentioning Kang has “him” or “he’s coming” and a lot of scenes could’ve been cut and nothing would’ve changed. Same problem with Gorr, two awesome villains that could’ve been so much more.
But Kang is gonna be in plenty of other movies. Gorr is most likely never returning
I agree with the people who said that the visuals weren’t great at the beginning. But I think it was enjoyable but I feel like something’s missing within the final battle because I think it maybe should’ve been longer with Kang. Overall I think it is pretty good, 7.5/10
I think Janet seems to mention that the universe beneath our where Kang is, is deep in the quantum realm, past the void and stuff if I remember. So potentially in Ant Man and the Wasp, she made sure to send Scott to a "higher" part of the Quantum realm or somewhere Kang couldn't see. Cassie's invention scanned the WHOLE Quantum realm.
I really enjoyed the film, I can't see what most people's issues are. Kang was menacing, and I really liked the upper stakes cos I think that's what had to come next. Scott literally was the reason the universe came back. You couldn't go back to small heist stories.
8/10 I loved it
5/10 in my books. Exactly what you expect from a middle of the road Marvel movie. It had some great moments, but a disappointing finale, MODOK was treated as a joke, and the Ant family beat Kang? Not very impressed as the start of phase 5 but I'll still with a 5/10.
Spoiler reviews are my favourite, because I never watch those movies (because of bad script-writing), but I enjoy the storytelling and long and thorough reviews of movies
Excellent review. I had some of the same thoughts. Completely forgot about the Pyms and the quantum tunnel😂. I thought the world building wasn't believable because in my mind i always thought it was a wasteland where she figured out how to survive all that time. And why are there 'humans' there? I'd think many more would like to leave the realm.
Everything changed in loki when they hit the time threshold...that's possibly why Janet all of a sudden was afraid of quantum realm
My biggest question is how much time passed when they were in the quantum realm. With Janet it was around 30 years both on earth and quantum. With Scott it was only 5 hours when in reality it was 5 years. Please someone make it make sense
He wasn't in the quantum realm. He got stuck in a time worm hole on the way to the quantum realm. That's how the avengers were able to figure out time travel because of how he stuck in a time hole. So because of this he didn't have the same aging affects has Janet because he never actually made it all the way there.
@@jamesjamaica7189 ok thank you for clearing that up
I have now seen this movie. And I honestly did not mind it. In fact I liked it a lot. Some of what the critics say are true, but most of the issues people have with it I believe are from people going into the movie super hyped with expectations so high the movie couldn't possibly live up too those expectations. Like Eternals, I liked that movie. It's a good movie that moves the MCU plot forwards and sets up future movies. But it didn't live up to the hype that it was getting beforehand. Same with this movie. But overall I did not mind this movie at all.
OMG, you (Sean Chandler) is so right about many of the plot holes about Quantumania... but I still luv the movie cause it's super entertaining 🤩
Loved it. 1 of 5 i've watched 3+ times in the theater.
I loved it 8/10 pretty slow start but once it started going it was awesome. Me along woth the entire theater cackled when MODOK took his helmet off and I had a genuinely good laugh, I know some people will wish they didn’t make him a joke but Kang is the serious villain and MODOK is his goofy henchman. Speaking off Kang he is badass and I cannot wait to see Jonathan Manors again. Personally I don’t think the Conqueror is dead
It feels like in every mcu movie they introduce a teenager who can create technology better than all the other established characters. First w shuri then iron heart and now Cassie.
It was a fine movie but I did feel like it was a little boring at times and the emotional moments really felt empty. I really enjoyed Paul Rudd and Jonathan majors. It just sucks that it seemed like they had to nerf kangs abilities so that ant man could contend with him at all. I think it would have been better if ant man was absolutely decimated and it wasn’t close but he does saving his family. The ants were realy freaking cool though loved seeing hank get a win like that
I think marvel nerfed down Kang honestly because this is isn’t even the biggest and baddest Kang, we saw at the end their is an entire stadium of Kangs.
What absolutely didn't make sense was how Janet was fine with Scott going into the Quantumrealm in the Ant Man and the Wasp post credit scene, but here she doesn't even want to here the word quantumrealm.
Okay hear me out and this is gonna be a hot take.
This movie’s biggest problem is the tone. It’s the same thing with Thor 4 except kinda the opposite where this movie took itself too seriously sometimes when it didn’t need to.
So here’s my hot take: The best solution to actually making this movie tonally consistent and in line with the franchise, Kang is the big fat wrench that didn’t need to be there.
Especially with how they treated him at the very end DX. If MODOK was the big bad guy and Kang was the puppeteer (like something similar to the Thanos/loki dynamic of Avengers) I think this movie could’ve been a lot more entertaining and enjoyable to watch…
If you fix the design and cgi on him.
Honestly, I was surprised by how much the tone worked for me. There were definitely still a handful of moments that I really didn’t like in terms of tone (M.O.D.O.K.), but it wasn’t as big of an issue for me as I thought.
I felt like Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania was mostly a good film, but I had a few issues.
1. I felt like the movie was too short. The movie could have easily been 2.5 hours if more backstory was given to Janet or Kang. Or even just a clear vision of how Scott is doing after the events of Endgame and his work (we could have had his friends back to). We could have also been shown a progression of Scott and Janet's relationship. I feel like the 1st part of the film went too fast and if Marvel took some more time for the 1st part of the film, in San Fransico, the film could have been way better going into the Quantum Realm.
2. I am very confused with Janet's time in the Quantum Realm. Cassie is sending "signals" deep into the Quantum Realm and then Janet snaps. The first scene of the movie got me confused as time went on. Where was Janet in the Quantum Realm, deep in or not? Hank was able to save Janet in the Quantum Realm without any "signals", but "signals" became a thing in the next movie. It got me really confused.
3. I hate the reliance on comedy and humor in this movie. It is ok if it has some humor here and there, that won't hurt, but when it is repeating humor, it gets a bit annoying. When the tension was building for an hour while everyone was exploring the Quantum Realm and the tensions of Kang kept building, comedy shot down that tension. In the final battle, same thing with MODOK. I also felt like the trailers revealed too much as we all knew what was coming in the movie. If the trailers didn't reveal Kang, it would have been a gamble, but it would have payed off. If the humor and comedy didn't interfere in the Quantum Realm scenes, the movie would have been way better. The humor in San Fransico is very fine to me.
If I had to rate this film, I would give it a solid 7. This movie has improved a lot compared to other MCU projects. Did it start Phase 5 off with a smash? A little bit, but I had my issues.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but the plot hole with Janet in the post credit scene not being scared of the quantum realm can be explained with Loki. When Janet was in the quantum realm, He who remains from the end of loki was keeping the multiverse and all the other Kangs at bay. Sylvie kills him, and now all of the sudden it’s like he who remains had never been trimming the multiverse. Janet’s history has changed because now all the Kangs throughout time and space exist, and the conqueror was exiled to the quantum realm.
I’m not sure if that makes any sense in writing, Feige really needs to give us some sort of proper explanation of how this all works so we don’t have to piece it together
I’ve been watching your videos since I was a freshman in high school. When I was younger, I disagreed with you on a lot but always enjoyed your opinion. Where as I’ve gotten older I agree with you on a lot more, such as Guardians 2. And this movie I very much agree with you on, I had very high hopes for it, and it disappointed me as meh