Still a TRACTOR? BMW R1300GS First Ride
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- BMW Motorrad has launched its long-awaited 1300GS, do-it-all universal soldier and let's not forget, cash cow as well. In this episode, we finally get our hands on it for around 2 days and get our first ride on this legend.
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What are your thoughts on the new design?
I'm not a BMW guy but this one, this one tickles my fancy. ✌️
I like it but if I was going to switch from my 2021 R1250GS Adventure I’d have to wait for the Adventure version. Range anxiety got the best of me on previous R1200GS.
Love it sat on it last week very nice much better than the pictures
Nice n sporty, I’m in. Gonna enjoy my 2023 triple black for three years. Then it’s a go.
I like it, when it was first revealed I wasn't sure but now it's grown on me and I really like it, the previous model now looks dated
I like it, however I’ll stick with my 2010 1200GS with nearly 100,000 miles on it. I’m 74 so my bike and I will expire about the same time. I think we have at least a few more epic trips left in us.
If I were in my 40s / 50s I’d buy that 1300 in a second. I love that green paint, lighter weight and massive power!
Ride in good health and be safe
I wish you many epic drives, and I hope I'll drive a GS as well when I'm 74 🙏
@@JPX8 No reason why you should not, but it may, as for me, 76, become an f700GS. It's the weight, eventually
I don't love it, I don't hate it. It's not for me, but I'm glad BMW is still refining stuff.
Nice to see you back 😁👍
Others have noted the noisy engine note. They have put it down to the construction of the new engine in which they have used stronger alloys but the walls are thinner! This is perhaps allowing more mechanical noise to exit the engine.
Dude, keep posting and love your reviews and sarcasm.
13:37 is the antenna for the keyless ride. You'll need access to it if ever your keyless remote battery dies, is lost, or if you want to program a new key from the dealer.
Thanks for the review, I just tried it here in the UK: outstanding engineering, amazing what they can get of this boxer engine, smooth as butter for a twin, excellent quality, i have nothing to fault (except maybe a hard seat) and that is my “problem” as it has become the perfect machine lacking personality. I loved my GS back in the 2000s but prefer now KTM or T700. Nevertheless kudos to BMW to show the world what perfect engineering means in bike production.
It seems a great upgrade (a naked 1300r keeping the fancy suspension as they did up to the 1150r would be great!). But you are right - for 25K it should come with far more standard, not just the expensive 719(?) billet bits.
Almost forgot about this channel 😂
Almost doesn't count 😀 Dave's back!
Point taken regrading the nits relative to the fact that the bike is quite expensive. The lack of backlit switchgear and not having an integrated moving map available on the TFT (CarPlay or other) are my personal biggest. It's probably worth noting to your viewers that the Option 719 version you are test riding adds significantly to the price for what are essentially cosmetic upgrades (green paint, billet aluminum bits, gold handlebars and gold spoked wheels) over the Triple Black and White models, at least it does here in the USA. My guess is that it's a similar situation for the EU. For reference, in the USA, selecting the Style Option 719 adds $3,195 to the price here in the USA. That is regardless of what other packages and options one might also want.
because they understand that no one looks at the handlebars at night you look at the road, who looks? do you look in the daytime? YOU FEEL the button for a week you make some mistakes but after a week you know where to press WITHOUT looking
GOOD STUFF! Now the 1250's will be reasonably priced. 😅
Yep.
"Low mileage GS1250 for sale. Never seen rain; full BMW service history; fully kitted out to travel the world. Never been further than Sainsbury's or the local bike meet"....PMSL.
13:43 The round piece under the seat is to detect the spare key when you don't have the main one. That spot used to be above the rear wheel in the frame but know they moved it for convenience.
It's the keyless antenna, but yes it also is the detector for the spare key.
Great that you are back! Nice bike but sometimes I wonder where the line is between car and bike equipment, do you really need keyless system and adaptive cruise control? Good to see the refinement in the gearbox, much needed. 👍
The answer is: Yes.
Dude I’ve been waiting for you to do a review on this bike. Your laughter is contagious.
Great early review with lots of useful information. Well done👍
There’s a lot of comment on the weight saving yet only gets it back to the 1200 GS. Every little helps but no lightweight. That said, I love it!
I love this channel. One of my all time favourite RUclipsrs. One of the reasons I got going although nowhere near the quantity and quality of Calins yet.
Alan Wake rules! 🤣
@@LongWayHome he certainly does😂😂
Boet where have you been, missing your content. Nice to see you back.
The lithium battery saves a lot of weight. The black plastic on the windscreen is a bit distracting. The seat to footpeg distance looks shorter? How many GSs out on the road have you seen lately that haven't been dropped? Mirrors and handguards will likely be expensive and difficult to replace I would think.
I'll be interested to see if the new GSs more sporting nature will compare well with the older GSS more touring orientation.
The thing that stands out about this bike, is how much the haters are waiting, in the wings with there bile and bitterness. No real content to their, moans! Could almost, be funny if It wasn’t so boring.
A top bike from BMW and going in the right direction.
I just fully optioned the one you’re riding with everything except the off road tires. $29,520US
Wow you must be well off.
I bought the 750gs Anniversary in '21 for 14k.
More power and no chain maintenance would be nice, but for another 14k? That's a rich boy toy for sure. And you're not even taking it off road? What are you thinking?
@@RuledByMars Oh I wasn’t clear. I did not buy it I just priced it on the website.
At that price alot of people will be opting for Yamaha Suzuki even more after all you're still just going down the road on two wheels thats alot of money for that
@@RuledByMarssame reason why I bought a '21 40th anniversary 850GSA. Chain maintenance is no big deal at all and when a chain needs replacing it is lots cheaper than a shaft.
$26,500US for a trophy with all the options. My '13 fully loaded GSW was $19,500. Over 10 years that's an increase of 3.6% per year and the new bike has so much more. Hard to really argue that it's not a good deal although you could say the '13 was way overpriced too, but I don't agree.
It's an amazing bike for sure, but they should have made a little better looking front around the lamp and adaptive cruise sensor.
That's my only complain and some other things you also mentioned, but they don't bother me that much than the front look.
Other than that they improved it what I wanted: central locking cases, electric screen, lighter, better QS, better looking side and top cases...much better and nicer road bike for me.
How is the seat, more or less comfy than the old one?
Very excited for your first ride/review on the M1000XR whenever that comes out.
I agree the front end was poorly designed - the lights, the black wings holding the windscreen, huge radar panel just look ugly to my eyes. The other thing is the key fob - another thing I don't like because I wear leather pants when I ride. The key may not fit any of the pockets as the 1250 key can get uncomfortable at times already in the front pocket of the pants. My jacket pockets are already reserved for wallet, phone, and house key. I want these 4 things in my person at all times for security reason. I'm not convinced that the weight savings is significant because they removed the center stand, 1 liter of fuel and the agm battery. I optioned the1300 here in California to the specs I want. It's over US30,000 with taxes and fees. So no. I keep my 1250. One guy here who ride the same bike was able to put over 300,000 miles in 5 years until he hit a deer recently that wrecked the bike. That tells me 1250 engine is solid. The 1300 is new and has not seen real world mileage yet. Only time will tell if it's really a good engine like the 1250.
Great to see you back. Cool review. How about the new AF twin after this
The old GS is a bloated barge for bloated old backsides. I really like the new one, I'm going to have to slim down to match it.
You obviously haven’t ridden an old gs (as you put it) a bloated barge it is not. 🤡
It’s a weapon in the right hands
That thing under the seat you thought might be SOS is for the factory key off the key fob does. It’s the antenna for the key.
I have the 1250 (2019) and I've seen the new bike at a dealership...Sorry I don't like it, it reminds me too much of the Honda NC750...You can't even move your old Vario panniers over as the new bike has a different setup. No illuminated switchgear, which is a shame. I do like the blind spot warning triangle in the wing mirrors. I see they still kept the cheap scooter horn.
Definitely looks puny. I love the presence of the 1250. You’re right it looks like a Honda (600rr here and still think the 1300 looks punier than my 600 now lol)
What do you think of the rear light...oh wait there is not one. I believe that using those fragile and exposed turn signals also for stop and rear lighting is not a smart choice.
The front end looks a lot better than previous one. Over all this motorcycle looks very good.
The ring under the driver seat is the antenna for the keyless systems. Previously, on 1250 the antenna is under passenger seat.
Last year a used 2017 1200 GS exclusive fit my budget. It’s paid for. I can ride it hard and put it away wet. Not to worried about a drop in the dirt. Adding a scuff or two.
A heated seat would be nice. A GPS which actually works would be nice.
Would the an singing and dancing version of the 1300 be nice. Yup but it would cost a lot. I will put a few 1000 more KM on mine.
I might pick up a 1300 after it’s been run in and done a few km. And somebody decides they need the next shiny one.
Too many commercials! Love your reviews but wish you would have ridden a 1250 shortly before riding this one. Maybe consider for the upcoming full review? If the headlight is less complicated than my fancy one on my '22 model, it might be worth it in the long run, but the handguards, blindspot mirrors and the radar..... are a waste of money for those of us who ride offroad on our GSs. I do like the battery cover on the key though, and the overall design is nice enough. Still looks like a GS. Looking forward to your full review.
It is been a long time since the last time i'm watching this channel's videos😂
aaaaaaaaaaaah we missed you!!
That circle ⭕️ under the seat is the aerial for the keyless start.
Definately not the looks of a big GS anymore. Love my 2021 GSA still more. The lack of a CarPlay integration is still a bummer. I have mounted a CarPlay device instead of my TomTom and it works great.
Nice bike. I'll wait for the R1300R...
Look who is back :-)
It's the 719 model with more options. Not all are on this model, you have to order on your model you select. $$$$$
Good to see you
I understand there's no longer a "Spin-On" Oil Filter, it's one of those Messy Cartridge type
As a 1250gs owner i sat on the 1300 rallye and honestly its small and cheap the rear seat is tiny for a passenger the footrest are cheap im so disappointed because i was going to buy one and the engine sounds so loud valve train issuses ??
tell me one reason why you wanted to switch please?
@@szeriman13 adaptive speed and I was hoping the quick shifter would be smoother plus more torque but seeing it up close it looks cheaper tho I have the ultimate edition with 719 option so maybe I’m being unfair but honestly for the price the foot rests /seat small size isn’t good I fear for long distance touring maybe I’ll be wrong but it seems like bmw want you to send a lot of extra options and I’m not prepared to do that
@@hawkslayers1same as me….ultimated edition from August!!!✌️ no way I would trade mine for this….they lost character!!!
Cheers✌️
JC
@@hawkslayers1 understand, for me maybe only reason to switch is the quickshifter, but honestly swtich a bike becaus of quickshifter...
New bikes are always worthy of some drool, this tractor still does nothing for me. I wondered about the little BSD triangles in the mirrors and how visible they'd be, I bet the disguised as Bavarian Prussians were looking for a sleeker solution than Ducati - didn't work out so well, ey??? My BSD lights of my Multistrada are VERY noticeable and I would not want to miss them anymore.
Maybe one day, BMW, will find it in their hearts to build us a more street bias GS like a Super Moto with a 17" front wheel.
Just make a DCT .Would that be smooth
That thing the antenna if your key runs out of the battery. So just swipe your key to the antenna you can run the bike. Sort of no battery, keyless thingimajing .. Nice video thanks.
I agree lamp is ugly, but why didn't you check at night if it's actually working. Lack of regular stop/tail light is also stupid.
I run once with an BMW R1200 GS Adventure 2013 and was amazing, i felt like driving a tank but at the same time a powerfull gokart, i wish i knew how it is to be in a F1 car to write in here but unfurtunate i dont know.
Hi Calin, off topic question, i heard that its better to have white helmet on, probably cause its more visible in trafic. Thats the reason your helmet its white? I'm just wondering!
Other than the goofy head light, a solid upgrade. Though I'll wait for the adventure model. Cheers.
Did you ask what the costs associated with dumping the bike will be? Turn signals in crash guards, car sensor in side mirrors and electric windshield can not be cheap to replace. Why the smaller gas tank (19L from 20L and way less than 30L on GSA)?
Now the 1200’s are really dropping in price. I assume it also has to do with the Euro 3 norm in Europe.
Great review 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
The only 1300 GS review I really care about. What about the GSA? Is it gone or is it still yet to be launched?
The GSA is "always" released a year after the GS.
Lovely to hear that. It'll be out next year and it will be the 1400GSA (same engine as far as I know).
With the transmission underneath the engine, either there is less ground clearance or the engine sits higher in the chassis. Neither of those are good.
Doesn't the green 719 spec come with an Akra exhaust that looks like a stock can
Lithium ion battery, 1l less fuel. So what is the actual weight saving? 5kg?
Please review the new S1000XR and M1000XR
Yes the sensor under the seat is for the spare key
It's the antenna for keyless system
😊 As always,real world review
Entertaining..
Stay safe
I think the elephant in the room is that one shouldn't purchase it for two or three years until they get the bugs worked out of the new design. Having a 2014 RT taught me that.
Yes, let others go with job one and deal with all the technical issues.
310mm is larger than 320mm?
I would love a modern high performance GS to keep my 2016 R1200GSA company, and I'll test ride one when I can. However, it all feels like too much technology, mandatory keyless ride, luggage with electronics on them, no rear stop light, menus and shortcut buttons make it too complicated. I fear it might not be the bike for me, unless that engine and gearbox really make me forget about how much of a smartphone it wants to be.
Theres a uk youtuber who tested it weeks ago. The miniature I had is that he said it was much much stiffer, the ride quality. Thats a deal breaker for me. The plushness of the ride on my past 2015 GSA and my current 2021 GS is key to my being able to do as long a ride as I'd like. Definitely have to test it out. I'm getting used to the looks already and I like a lot of the tweaks except for way too much technology and making things harder to get to in the menu is a big mistake
RUclips won't let me make changes to my comment so I'm going to reply to fix it. The word miniature was a mistake. It should have said the main issue I had was.....
The headlight design was stolen from a Jeep Renegade tail light. The lights in the hand guard are stupid. Less capacity in the gas tank is bad. Otherwise, the bike seems like a decent upgrade.
Great review! Where is Dave, lol!?
What no air con and kitchen sink?
How long will the indicators last on the hand guards on the first off-road drop
Get the Enduro package for offroad, Traditional turn signals.
@11:20 I thought the GS is the touring bike and the adventure is the off-road version? Hence why it comes with the crash bars and all.
Not when the new 1400gsa comes out. It will be tailored a lot more to onroad touring. Usually the lighter version is better offroad.
@@LongWayHomeso when comparing the out going BMW R1250 GS adventure and the BMW R1250 GS. The GS is lighter but I’ve always seen them described as the more touring version. The adventure version being more off-road. I agree generally a lighter bike will be better off-road but just confused on terminology.
The price of purchase is almost prohibitive; the total cost of ownership over five years / 100 000 kilometers? If my past experience is the best prediction of the future . . . yike$!
Long Way G1300GS 😂. I ride r1200gs too, mine is converted to 17/17 wheels , decated and dyno tuned. Runs faster when 1250.
It's not grabbing me yet. Look's like the cost of manufacture has beed reduced.
Thank for your review.
Would you consider review Moto Guzzi V100 S ?
had it sold it great bike but NOT to tour too small too cramped im only 5 9'
Isn't the round thing under the sadle the sensor for the spare key? Atleast i think i heard that somewhere.
It would be great if it was. The old one was in the rear wheel well, making it quite hard to start by yourself.
Antenna for the keyless system
relooking forward to the 2024 R12 NineT. Thinking it will be better than this bike. 😂 And if you only ride on bitumen, which is 98% of GS riders, why not the R12. 😮
Telelever and long travel suspension and wind protection makes for a nicer ride, as well the GS fits big guys much better.
Missed Dave...😢
❤top👍👍👍
No back lit switch gear, does nobody in bmw have an adventure at night?
because they understand that no one looks at the handlebars at night you look at the road, who looks? do you look in the daytime? YOU FEEL the button for a week you make some mistakes but after a week you know where to press WITHOUT looking
Bro , daca nu te pricepi întreabă un specialist 😂 .. chestia aia rotundă de sub sa sau de pe baterie este antena ring pentru cheie. Văi mama cum faci prezentare daca nu cunoști produsul. Și încă ceva moto este in rodaj dar văd că nu o menajezi 😂..
Asa este, sunt foarte rau!
Make it a bit heavier and less noisy, the motor seems to make more noise like the older 1200
LC….
My 2018 1290 is less noisy than my friends' 1250
Reminds me more of a V-Strom...
Except the tractor noise 😂
For me, it's torture when you only scratch the surface when you have someone who can answer and tell you everything about this hoj. Why don't you have 7 gears? why shorter strokes? Just the engine there is so much to ask. Frustrated how little people want to know and learn.
I can answer the shorter stoke question. Apparently on the 1300 the shiftcam in bulit-in and makes a lot of difference for low down torque, while on the 1250 it was just bolted on with much less impact on torque, so they can get away with a shorter stroke.
@@LongWayHome I think the answer is also that they have problems with this engine to get enough HP. So bigger piston and shorter stroke and a cam that means they don't have to raise the rpm at max torque as much. They have actually raised it. So next time they have to be completely water-cooled and a bigger piston with the same stroke length to get over 150hp if even they can do it?
@@LongWayHome koenigsegg drives development forward and mc and wants to manufacture segar so so slowly forward. They have, for example, a 3-speed gearbox that becomes 9 gears. Don't ask me how and it's so small too. Tired of only 6 gears and honda has a 7 speed box goldwing and honda are super conservative and even these can't beat the BMW. I'm disappointed with 6 gears and idle revs like 4000 rpm at 110kmh. Pathetic with 1300cc with such high revs in 2024.
Love this. Though obviously not in this weird green color - the Trophy version with the wire spoked wheels is the obvious way to go.
The more compact, lighter and funkier design is a lot more appealing to us younger guys (under 40). The old tonka-toy design was pretty boring and because of that it attracted a pretty boring crowd (the cliched 55 year-old suburban dentist was not far from the average owner). This guarantees it will keep selling well for years to come.
would someone please be the first to ride this new GS down a dirt road and test the off-road ride? Thanks.
Will be doing that in about 12 hours 🤣
Look you might be able to take the BMW out of the field but you can't take the tractor out of the BMW
Everything is upgraded, including the price, 26K for a Bike?, Nah, I don't think so.
It has not been a tractor for some time now
Looks like you have been plagiarised Charlie and Ewan have started making “LONG WAY HOME” their 4th instalment
hideous headlight!
this is not a bike anymore, it is a car on 2 wheels...manufacturers forget to build bikes, not cars on 2 wheels. That's why I am selling mine, fed up with all this weight, and electronics. Don't want to pay anymore for riding modes I don't use...
Boxster engines still stick out and bang on the legs, the seat is two-row like a racing motorcycle and the passenger is on the first floor, the weight is still too much, too many electronics that can break down on the way, and then there is no further, the center of balance is still too high .... ...., all in all, rating 6/10
Don’t care for this upgrade. Headlight looks tacky. I much prefer the K1600GT.
Agree front end is very disappointing; ugly looks like a tribute to Elon Musk, I always liked the headlight design on R1150RT, obviously not suitable for GS model. Not loving it I’m afraid, no illuminated controls! Hope the handgrips and seat are heated at no extra cost. I’m 1.88m and if BMW have changed the rider position geometry the bike is definitely not for me, 1250RT is really uncomfortable after an hour in the saddle, aware suspension drops when stopping.
The RT has a sportier riding position than the GS.
@@LongWayHome Agree, if the GS goes that way, longer legged riders might have to consider KTM for a more comfortable riding position?
Welcome back.
@@LongWayHome That’s why the GSA suits my physique, knees less restricted and lower pegs. The RT riding position has changed significantly from the R1100 & 1150 riding position, to a semi sports position on the 1250RT, not good for my lower back.
Yep, still a tractor
That’s kak compared to the 1250
Dissapointing bike, sounds awful,screen and side screens look cheap and nasty. Cant believe bmw say they are proud of this new design/finish.Maybe it's big brother will be built better.I will not be buying it.
Engine sounds terrible
Bike have awful sound.
It becomes more as a collection toy rather than working horse: too nice and too expensive. If you crush it or even drop, you will be crying big time.
It’s a Chelsea tractor over priced over rated
Have you ridden one yet?