I’m quite certain this 1300 GS is a great bike. Took one look at it, then 2 weeks later I purchased a 2023 R 1250 GS. Couldn’t help myself. The 1250 is completely “the bike” I wanted for years. Could not be happier. To all these motorists, the 1300 is better, yet the 1250 will always race my heart. ❤️
But maybe you screwed up? I recon LOTS of nearly new/better than new 1250s will be on the market shortly simply because the 1300 is "All New" If even 10% of current GS owners cant stand riding "the old one" then that is a LOT of bikes suddenly on the market....combined with a tad bit of recession?? BTW did you steal your slogan from Yamaha? "Revs your heart"?
@@dougiequick1 ….l did not “steal” anything. I typed “the 1250 will always race my heart”. I did not “screwed up” anything. I purchased the perfect bike for Me.
@@sootylumnice choice, I brought the 1250 triple black back in August. I got a brilliant deal. Now it’s worth more than when I got it! I do love the new 1300 and in three years, I’ll go for it, but for now the 1250 is the perfect bike for me.
Very honest with the finance figures Bruce and you should be highly commended for doing so. There should be more about purchases & costs on these reviews as it’s something we all have to do. Last year I bought a new Honda CRF300L cash, this year my SDR’s finance will cease (£226/month) and my R1250R is mine also. Always light at the end of the tunnel mate. Thanks again first class video 👌👌
“How it makes you feel.” Absolutely spot on. Do I need all the power, the brakes, the electronic wizardry. Not necessarily, but if you are lucky enough to experience it and properly put it to the test it’s a beautiful thing. Yet another review that covers what an everyday rider wants to see. Nice one.
Great work Bruce, can’t wait to get my 1300 Triple Black, it’s sat at the dealers waiting for me. Just a note on the SOS, I was on a 2022 RT Blood Bike on Sunday and it has the same issue so it’s not exclusive to the 1300 GS.
Great to watch a review from someone who knows what he is talking about when comparing the new with the old! Quality unbiased review which was good to watch….
Fantastic info, Bruce. I think the 1300 will do really well. I’ve had my vfr1200x for over 3 years, full dealer service all its life. Reflecting what a few have said, individual dealers make a big difference. I’ve had some not so great and others have been fantastic. Never had so much as a single warning light in 13k miles, typical Honda. But, to be fair, it has less tech than the arc. Keep the great work up. 👍
I have treated my Crosstourer to an Akrapovic end can and with the baffle out gives it an extra 7hp so 136 in total. Suspension has been upgraded to Nitron R3 rear and Nitron TVT fork internals. Top Selerie seat and McCruise electronic cruise control. Givi Trekkerfender bash plate, Michelin anakee adventure tyres. All very expensive upgrades especially here in New Zealand, but I doubt Honda will ever make another V4 adventure bike.
@@pl1068 great mods… the nitron option is top on my list. The standard suspension is passable, but no more. Sadly, I think big V4’s are really struggling to meet modern regs.
@@headrace4863 you will not regret doing it, the low and high speed ( shock speed) compression damping stops the bike dipping on the brakes and the seesawing on full acceleration gear changes. Speed bumps disappear and if you hit a pot hole the high speed circuit absorbs it fully. We have a lot of gravel roads here and they are now a pleasure to ride.
I've had so many Japanese bikes and no problems. With BMW it's expected and therefore OK to have warranty issues. Fine if you want to spend time going back and forth to the dealers.
I was looking forward to this video, someone who knows the 1250 extremely well and now owns the 1300 - seems like a ton of positives, especially if you like a sportier edge. I love the new look, a far neater design and would seriously consider buying it 👍🙂
I genuinely love it Nick - believe me, I’d say if I didn’t. So far the only negatives for me are: New lithium battery is pants. You have to let it warm up prior to starting, which can take over 30 seconds at times. Really don’t like the lack of button for the heated grips - all the accessories like heated grips/seat, screen, cruise control radar sensitivity etc are all operated by one switch, you have to select what that switch operates and it’s a pain in the arse. I don’t like the smaller and less sculpted tank - range is about 10-20 miles less for me and it doesn’t feel like I can lock into the tank with my legs when standing up anymore (I’ll be testing this next month when I go offroad on a 1300). There seems to be more electronic intrusiveness on the 1300 - if you’re accelerating hard and the revs are up, it feels like it cuts in a lot more when changing gear to lower the impact on the drive shaft possibly? I noticed it on the 1250 after they did the shaft drive recall, but this one is more evident I feel. I think that’s it so far. Huge step up/forward for the GS overall in my book 👍👏
I’m a 1250 GSA owner and I love the massive presence of it plus the fuel range which in Australia is a necessity for me. In fact I love the bike full stop. The 1300 GS to me looks a bit homogeneous with other adventure bikes. I’ll wait to see what the 1300 GSA looks like before I’ll consider taking the leap.
The HP wars are interesting in the Adv segment. I have a 1250GSA and never have I wanted for more HP or TRQ. Throttle response is instantaneous. Overtaking is ridiculously easy, sometimes 2-3 cars at a time on B roads. I love my GSA, it will be interesting to see the GSA next year. The video is awesome!
I have to agree the sound of the boxer does sound different and better in my opinion. I do admire your candid review and your willingness to talk about how you purchased the bike on PCP and costs of that package….not many people on this platform divulge such info, so thanks for that. I’m looking forward to seeing how this bike performs over the next 12 months especially in regard to the mileage you do and just like myself, you ride in all weathers.
Hi mate I do 20'000 miles a year in every weather condition and certainly don't nurse my bikes. On my 5th BMW, mixture of GSs and XRs and the customer service I receive from Cotswold Mottorad in Cheltenham is amazing and the reason I keep buying the brand. In 250000 miles I've only broken down twice and both times it was dealt with quickly and professionally. Many of my riding pals have different brands but all admit none give the same customer satisfaction as Cotswold BMW. Keep up the great content mate, wish my channel was half as good.👍 FB
Good work TP1. Ive only just had my triple black 1250 (no10) but this is most certainly gonna be next, in a year or two. Looking forward to more sporty goodness. It’s what the 1250 has been gagging for. 👍🏻🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Great video and yes i agree its all about tickling ones danglies.I own two bikes a 2015 Pan European ST1300 and a Harley Davidson Pan America Special and yes they both well and truely tickle my danglies keep up the good work.
Hi TP1. Thanks for the review, your comment re the 'feeling' made me laugh. I too bought my 1250 from the same place in Brighton, i have to say they have been awesome in support, advice and speed of getting things done, i noticed a great change since the new manager has taken over. Loving my 1250 and looking forward to the next trip coming up to Garmish in July. Thanks again for these vids, im even taking note of your gear changes when slowing 👍every days a learning day. cheers Angus
Dicking about in my second home East Sussex, using Upper and Lower Dicker as a roundabout, miss 1066 country after retiring back to Scotland. 2011 big bang R1's rulz. No electronic gizmos just you and the bike as it should be, old school, all in the wrist action 😂😂😂😂😂. Looks nice though glad your happy with it.
You are liking it then Bruce 👏...... Great to hear you enjoying the new bike so much, that’s what a new bike should be a huge grin and a strong desire to avoid putting it in the garage. Thanks for sharing 🥃🏴
I have my new one arriving in January and cant wait. I took a test ride a few weeks ago and loved the power and the bike. It wheelied over a slight crest at 180kph and deffo feels more nervous then my 1250 but then it would because of the extra power. I will try mine with the suspension set on the low setting to see if this steadies her up a bit. if not then i will just get used to it 🙂
I don’t get that jittery feeling at all from mine, feels solid as a rock - handles differently than the 1200/1250, the weight is slightly higher so there’s a more balanced feel, but I love it personally. Hope you gel with it when it arrives 👍
Can’t believe I’ve only just got around to watching this. I’m a big fan of the GS as you know. I love my 1250 for everything I can do in it. But I love the look of the 1300 more. Especially in the blue “Trophy” colours. Only time will tell if I’ll get one and then go splashing through muddy puddles on the North Devon green lanes.
Hi Bruce, you are so lucky to be able to ride this time of year with 15 celsius! Here in Quebec it is winter( although we will have an exceptionally green Christmas) a provincial law forbids us to be on the streets with summer tires, therefore no riding from December 1st until March 15th. Happy Christmas 🎄 Ride safe! 🏍😉
Cheers Marc, Believe it or not it was only a few weeks ago that we had ice everywhere, and before that we were under water! 🤣 The weather here in the Uk is all over the place at times, so you just get out whenever you can👍
After a rubbish day this really cheered me up. I think when the time comes I think I’ll have one of these. When my s1xr was new in 21 I had the same warning light and message and the sos thing didn’t go to sleep and flattened the battery. My experience of bmw Rotherham is very good they rebuilt my bike after it went up in smoke. In general the bmw motorbike dealers are better than the bmw car dealers.
Nice bike & a great review. And as a cyclist and biker, I'll just add: treat others the way you'd wish to be treated- we're all responsible for our own actions, not those of others.
Hi Bruce, your enthusiasm is contagious and refreshing. Good luck and safe riding. Trying hard to content myself with my 1250 triple black. I still love ˋher´😅! Greetings, Jim
Best of luck with the new bike Bruce,ride safe. Enjoyed the channel content this year , looking forward to 2024, maybe see you for a pint in Ireland. Merry Christmas and Happy New year.
Thanks Will, Glad you’ve enjoyed it bud, and I keep saying it every year, but I really will try to get back over to Ireland in ‘24, so I’ll hold you to that pint 👍 Merry Christmas to you and your family too
Great video , very informative. Mines being delivered in Jan . Which eazi grip would you recommend? I’m getting the trophy so think the clear is the right one but there are three types to choose from.
I think it’s just a cosmetic thing - black or transparent, small or slightly larger dimples 🤷♂️ I’ve got the transparent small dimple ones, can’t remember the proper name for them 😬 Just remember to use a hairdryer on both the bike and grips when you apply them - so much easier to do when both parts are warm 👍
Great video Bruce of the bike that is certainly going to stir the adventure bike pot!! I think its a great looking bike, but still a GS. Look forward to your future videos of your new steed. Thank you
Looks amazing, I like the slimmer profile personally. I don't like the the look of the big bulky GSA. I have the 1200 GS and it's great. I like the look of the front light too, reminds of the Preditor's mouth 😊
Hi Bruce. Another enjoyable vid sir. Wishing you and the Clan a very Happy Christmas, and looking to watching more in 2024. Safe riding, and till next time 👍😊. PS. I hope you'll be very happy together...
Thanks Bruce very informative especially coming from a 1250 owner............. my 1250 is only 12 months old so plan to wait 12 more months. Think big elephant in room will be cost of living crisis and economic uncertainty in the coming year, second hand car market already hit hard. BMW could well have hit peak GS sales with R1250
Looks a Nice Ride Bruce, i like it, the Best looking GS yet. Enjoy your vids you say it as it is, keep safe enjoy the ride and i look forward to seeing your future vids Have a Great Christmas 🎄 and New year. Interested in what 2024 vids and travels you have lined up. 👍👍🏍🏍🏍
Enjoy the new bike Bruce👍. I nearly went for a GS last March (I buy under a year old with minimal miles for cash) but the dealer Bahnstormer Alton wouldn’t move an inch on any of their bikes (meaningful amounts)- so I walked. Premier Bikes Abingdon offered me a Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Pro less than a 1000 miles on the clock, less than a year old under 14k last March, I even squeezed them for a heated seat. I think the new GS is a real winner, I’ll be looking at one in 12 months assuming I can get a deal, the engine sounds louder than the old 1250 is that right - anyway enjoy! (love your vids BTW) 👍
I no how long you have waited for this bike always good to see you happy the beautiful thing about motorcycles is the freedom of choice and you definitely made the right choice for you no bike is perfect but this bike is perfect for you ☝️ reference to your comment about all new bikes having teething problems this is so true you definitely are BMWs unpaid development test rider and that’s development 😎🤘❤️ enjoy have a amazing Christmas 🎅 see you next year 🙏
I think your point about bikes having problems and it being the way t hat they are dealt with is spot on. I'm just about to get my 4th BM after getting completely fed up with the customer service of a major Italian brand (mostly red bikes). Bikes have hiccups but being well looked after speaks volumes.
Really good video and food for thought. It’s growing on me, not sure I’ll be changing my current GS just yet though. Be interesting to see what the 1400 presents, assuming it will be a GSA replacement and a fatter version 🤔
Ha Ha, take one for a spin, but if you’re a KTM fan, I think it may not be quite ‘raw’ enough for you. It’s great fun, but still civilised in comparison 👍
Interesting to see how,the differences in the bike are going to be. Glad you are enjoying it so much so far. Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year. 😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻
Oh dear it's got that fault your 1250 had, in the "National's" after about 57mph the speedo goes blank! What a shame! Love the vid Bruce, GSs aren't my thing but I do appreciate the tech and power they deliver!
Looks like a nice bike glad to see you are enjoying it. The big questions for me is it a comfortable as my 1200. Is the weather protection as good. Looking forward to seeing what you feel about it after a long ride. And getting it wee bit grotty.
Awesome! Now I'm intrigued about how good is the "matrix" headlight and a nite ride to see how good it is will be perfect since there is no video at all about it!
Ha Ha cheers Chris, Chuck your leg over one, but if you like the KTM SA I’m pretty sure it’ll still be a bit tame/reserved for you. The KtM is still the more engaging ride in my book 👍
Nice vid, Same as mine, great bikes, only issues I have are filtering through London confuses the radar and auto brakes regularly which is a bit annoying, although I’m sure it can be de-activated. Mine buzzes through bars and pegs around 90 in top, you have this issue?
As a short arse the 1300 is the first GS I can just about stretch so's now a viable choice, I know a lot of owners of earlier 1200 and 1250s aren't big fans of the new looks but I really like them and the more compact design.
Still waiting for mine as it’s currently stuck at BMW UK waiting for the recall bits to be fitted but should be here early new year; coming from an 850 GSA so may have to ride in rain mode for a while before I get used to it 😂. Never had a bad experience over multiple BMW dealers, had a KTM once. Never again. The dealer went bust unsurprisingly!
Been looking forward to this vid and it does look lovely but warning lights on already? That's very KTM 😉 I still can't get over the price. 21k is mental.
I have the option 719 full options. In my opinion it is a race GS. And that is exactly what I wanted from this new GS. I am stil breaking in the engine. Found that the gearbox was harsh in the beginning. Needed a lot of force to change gears but it is getting better and hope after breaking in and changing Oil it will be perfect. Is your supplier of ceramic coatings also do bikes in the Netherlands?
Hi @TeapotOne - enjoying your content. This is my first GS .. I bought the shiny green one with gold spoked rims ;-) (the chavvy one - lol) but love your triple black! How are you finding the quick-shifter? It's possibly me, my previous bike was a Tiger 900 (which I found really dull, but my previous bike to that was a GSXR1000), I found the Tiger's quick-shifter really smooth -- however I'm finding the GS1300's quick-shifter a bit clunky - especially 2-3 ... but also 5-6 up and down -- like I say, possibly me, not heard yours clunking at all through your videos. Also I'm finding the front brake leave pulls a bit close to the bars, I'm used to 1 or 2 finger braking while holding the throttle .. but have found I can't apply enough pressure before I'm crushing my fingers ... span I've set to the widest; but have been trying to adapt and not 1-2finger brake. Loving the GS, so much more responsive (as you'd expect) from the Tiger ... I felt the Tiger was really vague on the front, where I'm finding I'm a lot more confident with the front of the GS. May see you around on the South Coast roads!!
@TeapotOne Great video!!!! Do you find the knee bend and or siting position different than on your 1250? I have heard the foot pegs are set further back and the knee bend is different. I am 6 foot tall and concerned about the ridding position. We don't have them in the U.S. as of yet so I can't sit on one yet. I had a 2019 GSA and loved the sitting position. Just curious how different it is on the 1300. Thank you!
Hanging on to see the adventure when it arrives, nice to hear the figures tho not enough people go into that 👍🏼 ive had them for the last 10 years just unsure if i want a new one and go though it all again,
Great video once more, Bruce, thank you. I’ve had two test rides on the 1300GS and enjoyed them both immensely. As others have commented, gear box is a bit stiff 2-3 but now better at 2000 miles after the 1st service. Your GS does look immaculate with the ceramic coating and the spoked wheels ( an optional extra I think ). Boring question perhaps - does your Geoff clean up more easily and better with his ceramic coating ?
Yes bud, but you have to keep on top of it. I give the bike a quick rinse down with the hose when I get in from a ride, just to get the big muck off. I’ve not given it a proper actual wash yet and it still looks great. I’ll keep you all updated through the year with how it’s going 👍
PPF is the way to go for protecting the paintwork IMO. I had the same issue on my 1250GS where my knees rubbed on the tank, one panel was changed under warranty and PPF fitted afterwards. 3 years on the tank still looked like new as Cotswold Motorrad loaded into the van
My experience of how I get treated wwith my versus 1000 gt se at Greenham Kawasaki Newbury is still to a good level. Very happy with servicing, aftermarket part department. ( Kawasaki not BMW). It is bit of a trek to get there but they are an official Kawasaki dealer not a franchise dealer.
‘The Tramontana is chavvie’ - says the man who’s fitted flashing emblem lights 🤭🤭. Having owned two Triple Blacks I’m looking forward to my green and gold chav-mobile arriving in March - a 200 mile test ride from Inverness to Skye and back convinced me, it’s just so much better in all areas for me.
Thanks bud, phone mount is just a cheap one off eBay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134152167375?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NPeBrmLgQ7a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2ajOQ692S_-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I’ve had nothing but first class treatment from my bmw dealer. The aftercare is second to none in my experience. This is one reason why I will buy another bmw.
Great vid. I like the content based around opinion and feel of the bike. Not point in rattling off stats which can be easily found. Well done please keep same format on bike reviews. An opinion can not be wrong it’s just an opinion as a viewer we can choose to ignore or accept. Cheers, and good work👍
Enjoy your new motorcycle. I currently have a cruiser (HD Sport Glide) but would like to get something like this. Are they comfortable for longer distances? Thanks.
Very nice mate! 'HE' looked much better in person than in the pics and definitely stepped up the build finish! Kudos that you kept in the little error. New bikes always have some faults until they are ironed out but I guarantee the forums will be full of keyboard warriors! Definitely looks a more lively bike so will have to get myself on one! Think it's really going please those wanting a bit more knobbery with the BMW caressing
Ha Ha yeah it’s definitely much more capable in performance terms, but still lacks the ‘hooligan’ element of the Orangery. This new 1390 is going to be mind blowing, there’s zero doubt about that👍
@@teapotone must admit chaps, seeing you both in November I was impressed with the “ABikeThing” lights (especially the bmw roundel lights) and accessories that you both have.
Off the topic of this vid - but @teapotone do you have a video on the cradle you use to house your mobile on the satnav mount at all? Back on the bike - I think I fall into the camp of not liking the styling on the images I have seen. With that being said, I can imagine it probably does look absolutely lovely in person! Congratulations on the purchase of Geoff, try not to ride him too hard 😂
I’ve not done a vid on the phone holder, it’s just one o got off eBay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134152167375?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NPeBrmLgQ7a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2ajOQ692S_-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I’ve only got the top box, it’s a big step up in quality and looks good. It’s a wee bit smaller on the internal dimensions, but you can still fit a Vario liner bag in it… just. Bloody expensive though at £540!
Great video Bruce love the comments on the bike and the honest opinions do you know why BMW have yet to give it back lit switch gear like all its competitors? It’s the only thing to me to let it down ? Ru getting engine guard bars fitted ?
Thanks bud, aye I’ve ordered some engine bars and just waiting for them to be delivered now. Backlit switchgear - this has been a hotly debated topic amongst the GS forums for a long time. Lots of people on both sides. BMW just seem to have dug their heals in here and categorically stated it’s not their intention to backlight the switchgear as they don’t see a need for it - that’s what I’ve gathered anyway, there may well be another reason? I fully expected the 1300 to have them actually, but sadly not
Nice one Bruce. I think the specs etc. Can be a little misleading on some bikes. I went from BMW R1200R, 125bhp and nm torque, to KTM 790 adventure, 90 something bhp, about 80nm. The specs say, it's vastly underpowered, I disagree! There is a definite difference in power, but...... It doesn't distract from the 'pleasure' of riding the bike. I ride a little differently, that's all. As you said, it's the 'feel' of the bike, not the specs. Enjoy your new bike, ride safe and have fun, Grumps
I’m quite certain this 1300 GS is a great bike. Took one look at it, then 2 weeks later I purchased a 2023 R 1250 GS. Couldn’t help myself. The 1250 is completely “the bike” I wanted for years. Could not be happier. To all these motorists, the 1300 is better, yet the 1250 will always race my heart. ❤️
Same as myself, looked at a 1300 but fell for a 1250 tripple black. Never ridden a bike like it and absolutly amazing bike.
But maybe you screwed up? I recon LOTS of nearly new/better than new 1250s will be on the market shortly simply because the 1300 is "All New" If even 10% of current GS owners cant stand riding "the old one" then that is a LOT of bikes suddenly on the market....combined with a tad bit of recession?? BTW did you steal your slogan from Yamaha? "Revs your heart"?
@@dougiequick1 ….l did not “steal” anything. I typed “the 1250 will always race my heart”. I did not “screwed up” anything. I purchased the perfect bike for Me.
If only BMW Motorrad thought that 😂1300 massively hyped’ this vid exhibit a!
bollock tickling or just bollocks! Time will tell @@dougiequick1
@@sootylumnice choice, I brought the 1250 triple black back in August. I got a brilliant deal. Now it’s worth more than when I got it! I do love the new 1300 and in three years, I’ll go for it, but for now the 1250 is the perfect bike for me.
Very honest with the finance figures Bruce and you should be highly commended for doing so. There should be more about purchases & costs on these reviews as it’s something we all have to do. Last year I bought a new Honda CRF300L cash, this year my SDR’s finance will cease (£226/month) and my R1250R is mine also. Always light at the end of the tunnel mate.
Thanks again first class video 👌👌
Cheers Ray 👍
“How it makes you feel.” Absolutely spot on. Do I need all the power, the brakes, the electronic wizardry. Not necessarily, but if you are lucky enough to experience it and properly put it to the test it’s a beautiful thing. Yet another review that covers what an everyday rider wants to see. Nice one.
Thank you bud 👍
Great work Bruce, can’t wait to get my 1300 Triple Black, it’s sat at the dealers waiting for me. Just a note on the SOS, I was on a 2022 RT Blood Bike on Sunday and it has the same issue so it’s not exclusive to the 1300 GS.
Great to watch a review from someone who knows what he is talking about when comparing the new with the old! Quality unbiased review which was good to watch….
Thank you bud 👍
Fantastic info, Bruce. I think the 1300 will do really well. I’ve had my vfr1200x for over 3 years, full dealer service all its life. Reflecting what a few have said, individual dealers make a big difference. I’ve had some not so great and others have been fantastic. Never had so much as a single warning light in 13k miles, typical Honda. But, to be fair, it has less tech than the arc. Keep the great work up. 👍
I have treated my Crosstourer to an Akrapovic end can and with the baffle out gives it an extra 7hp so 136 in total.
Suspension has been upgraded to Nitron R3 rear and Nitron TVT fork internals.
Top Selerie seat and McCruise electronic cruise control.
Givi Trekkerfender bash plate, Michelin anakee adventure tyres.
All very expensive upgrades especially here in New Zealand, but I doubt Honda will ever make another V4 adventure bike.
@@pl1068 great mods… the nitron option is top on my list. The standard suspension is passable, but no more. Sadly, I think big V4’s are really struggling to meet modern regs.
@@headrace4863 you will not regret doing it, the low and high speed ( shock speed) compression damping stops the bike dipping on the brakes and the seesawing on full acceleration gear changes.
Speed bumps disappear and if you hit a pot hole the high speed circuit absorbs it fully.
We have a lot of gravel roads here and they are now a pleasure to ride.
I've had so many Japanese bikes and no problems. With BMW it's expected and therefore OK to have warranty issues. Fine if you want to spend time going back and forth to the dealers.
I was looking forward to this video, someone who knows the 1250 extremely well and now owns the 1300 - seems like a ton of positives, especially if you like a sportier edge. I love the new look, a far neater design and would seriously consider buying it 👍🙂
I genuinely love it Nick - believe me, I’d say if I didn’t.
So far the only negatives for me are:
New lithium battery is pants. You have to let it warm up prior to starting, which can take over 30 seconds at times.
Really don’t like the lack of button for the heated grips - all the accessories like heated grips/seat, screen, cruise control radar sensitivity etc are all operated by one switch, you have to select what that switch operates and it’s a pain in the arse.
I don’t like the smaller and less sculpted tank - range is about 10-20 miles less for me and it doesn’t feel like I can lock into the tank with my legs when standing up anymore (I’ll be testing this next month when I go offroad on a 1300).
There seems to be more electronic intrusiveness on the 1300 - if you’re accelerating hard and the revs are up, it feels like it cuts in a lot more when changing gear to lower the impact on the drive shaft possibly? I noticed it on the 1250 after they did the shaft drive recall, but this one is more evident I feel.
I think that’s it so far.
Huge step up/forward for the GS overall in my book 👍👏
Well, it is a child of the X1000R and the R1250GS and I like it. 😂
I’m a 1250 GSA owner and I love the massive presence of it plus the fuel range which in Australia is a necessity for me. In fact I love the bike full stop. The 1300 GS to me looks a bit homogeneous with other adventure bikes. I’ll wait to see what the 1300 GSA looks like before I’ll consider taking the leap.
I’m hearing 1400 GSA in 2025 🤷♂️
The HP wars are interesting in the Adv segment. I have a 1250GSA and never have I wanted for more HP or TRQ. Throttle response is instantaneous. Overtaking is ridiculously easy, sometimes 2-3 cars at a time on B roads. I love my GSA, it will be interesting to see the GSA next year. The video is awesome!
I have to agree the sound of the boxer does sound different and better in my opinion. I do admire your candid review and your willingness to talk about how you purchased the bike on PCP and costs of that package….not many people on this platform divulge such info, so thanks for that. I’m looking forward to seeing how this bike performs over the next 12 months especially in regard to the mileage you do and just like myself, you ride in all weathers.
No worries bud, I’m an open book and won’t hold anything back from you lot 👍
Good old fashioned German bollock tickling! Love it 🤌💥
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Hi mate I do 20'000 miles a year in every weather condition and certainly don't nurse my bikes. On my 5th BMW, mixture of GSs and XRs and the customer service I receive from Cotswold Mottorad in Cheltenham is amazing and the reason I keep buying the brand. In 250000 miles I've only broken down twice and both times it was dealt with quickly and professionally. Many of my riding pals have different brands but all admit none give the same customer satisfaction as Cotswold BMW. Keep up the great content mate, wish my channel was half as good.👍 FB
Thanks bud, aye I absolutely agree with you there, I’ve not had customer service anywhere else like I get with the tractors 🤷♂️👍
Good work TP1. Ive only just had my triple black 1250 (no10) but this is most certainly gonna be next, in a year or two. Looking forward to more sporty goodness. It’s what the 1250 has been gagging for. 👍🏻🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Great video and yes i agree its all about tickling ones danglies.I own two bikes a 2015 Pan European ST1300 and a Harley Davidson Pan America Special and yes they both well and truely tickle my danglies keep up the good work.
Hi TP1. Thanks for the review, your comment re the 'feeling' made me laugh. I too bought my 1250 from the same place in Brighton, i have to say they have been awesome in support, advice and speed of getting things done, i noticed a great change since the new manager has taken over. Loving my 1250 and looking forward to the next trip coming up to Garmish in July. Thanks again for these vids, im even taking note of your gear changes when slowing 👍every days a learning day. cheers Angus
Dicking about in my second home East Sussex, using Upper and Lower Dicker as a roundabout, miss 1066 country after retiring back to Scotland. 2011 big bang R1's rulz. No electronic gizmos just you and the bike as it should be, old school, all in the wrist action 😂😂😂😂😂. Looks nice though glad your happy with it.
You are liking it then Bruce 👏......
Great to hear you enjoying the new bike so much, that’s what a new bike should be a huge grin and a strong desire to avoid putting it in the garage.
Thanks for sharing 🥃🏴
100%, cheers bud 👍
I have my new one arriving in January and cant wait. I took a test ride a few weeks ago and loved the power and the bike. It wheelied over a slight crest at 180kph and deffo feels more nervous then my 1250 but then it would because of the extra power. I will try mine with the suspension set on the low setting to see if this steadies her up a bit. if not then i will just get used to it 🙂
I don’t get that jittery feeling at all from mine, feels solid as a rock - handles differently than the 1200/1250, the weight is slightly higher so there’s a more balanced feel, but I love it personally.
Hope you gel with it when it arrives 👍
Great talking! I am waiting for mine to come. Merry Christmas!
Can’t believe I’ve only just got around to watching this. I’m a big fan of the GS as you know. I love my 1250 for everything I can do in it. But I love the look of the 1300 more. Especially in the blue “Trophy” colours. Only time will tell if I’ll get one and then go splashing through muddy puddles on the North Devon green lanes.
You’re right that it’s how issues are dealt with. Sadly, why I’m no longer riding a BMW. But this new bike has me pondering…….
Hi Bruce, you are so lucky to be able to ride this time of year with 15 celsius! Here in Quebec it is winter( although we will have an exceptionally green Christmas) a provincial law forbids us to be on the streets with summer tires, therefore no riding from December 1st until March 15th. Happy Christmas 🎄 Ride safe! 🏍😉
Cheers Marc,
Believe it or not it was only a few weeks ago that we had ice everywhere, and before that we were under water! 🤣
The weather here in the Uk is all over the place at times, so you just get out whenever you can👍
I love that whine.. my Sinnis Terrain 125 does it after a service too.
I always enjoy your content :) great video, I am having a test ride this Friday on the 1300 :)
Thanks very much, and hope you enjoy it 👍
Great honest no faff review.. Best I’v seen yet 👍
Thanks bud
Nice bike. I'm happy for you. I need to get at least one more year on my 1250GS before I upgrade.
Got my f900r booked for its running in service in 2 weeks, can't wait till I can unleash all that power 😂
After a rubbish day this really cheered me up. I think when the time comes I think I’ll have one of these.
When my s1xr was new in 21 I had the same warning light and message and the sos thing didn’t go to sleep and flattened the battery.
My experience of bmw Rotherham is very good they rebuilt my bike after it went up in smoke. In general the bmw motorbike dealers are better than the bmw car dealers.
Nice bike & a great review. And as a cyclist and biker, I'll just add: treat others the way you'd wish to be treated- we're all responsible for our own actions, not those of others.
Hi Bruce, your enthusiasm is contagious and refreshing. Good luck and safe riding. Trying hard to content myself with my 1250 triple black. I still love ˋher´😅! Greetings, Jim
Ha Ha cheers Jim 👍
Beautiful looking GS brother, but for some reason, the 1250 is the one that appeals to me. Love the video as usual mate. Good onya Bruce. Enjoy.
The new 1300GS looks so much nicer than the 1250. I'll be trading my 1250GS in as soon as the new 1300's land in the U.S.
Fantastic Honest Review Bruce Thankyou 👍👍👍
Thanks Tim, you’ll only ever get my honest thoughts on here bud 👍
Absolutely awesome video Sir. Sitting here in Florida watching you ride on the wrong side of the road feels so weird.
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Barrie Robson BMW in York are fantastic, nothings too much trouble and they're a great bunch of guys.
Best of luck with the new bike Bruce,ride safe. Enjoyed the channel content this year , looking forward to 2024, maybe see you for a pint in Ireland. Merry Christmas and Happy New year.
Thanks Will,
Glad you’ve enjoyed it bud, and I keep saying it every year, but I really will try to get back over to Ireland in ‘24, so I’ll hold you to that pint 👍
Merry Christmas to you and your family too
Great vid as always - you are probably best suited to compare the 1250 to the 1300. Look forward to seeing more on this bike.
Thanks bud 👍
Finance and servicing costs are great info. Much more useful than suspension travel and brake disc diameter.
Great video , very informative. Mines being delivered in Jan . Which eazi grip would you recommend? I’m getting the trophy so think the clear is the right one but there are three types to choose from.
I think it’s just a cosmetic thing - black or transparent, small or slightly larger dimples 🤷♂️
I’ve got the transparent small dimple ones, can’t remember the proper name for them 😬
Just remember to use a hairdryer on both the bike and grips when you apply them - so much easier to do when both parts are warm 👍
Great video Bruce of the bike that is certainly going to stir the adventure bike pot!! I think its a great looking bike, but still a GS. Look forward to your future videos of your new steed. Thank you
Cheers Dave 👍
Looks amazing, I like the slimmer profile personally. I don't like the the look of the big bulky GSA. I have the 1200 GS and it's great. I like the look of the front light too, reminds of the Preditor's mouth 😊
Hi Bruce. Another enjoyable vid sir. Wishing you and the Clan a very Happy Christmas, and looking to watching more in 2024. Safe riding, and till next time 👍😊.
PS. I hope you'll be very happy together...
Thanks Les!
Merry Christmas to you and yours too bud, appreciate all your support over the years 👏👍
Thanks Bruce very informative especially coming from a 1250 owner............. my 1250 is only 12 months old so plan to wait 12 more months. Think big elephant in room will be cost of living crisis and economic uncertainty in the coming year, second hand car market already hit hard. BMW could well have hit peak GS sales with R1250
Looks a Nice Ride Bruce, i like it, the Best looking GS yet. Enjoy your vids you say it as it is, keep safe enjoy the ride and i look forward to seeing your future vids Have a Great Christmas 🎄 and New year. Interested in what 2024 vids and travels you have lined up. 👍👍🏍🏍🏍
Thanks very much David, glad you’re enjoying the content.
Merry Christmas to you and yours too👍
Great video Bruce, thanks for sharing it and your honesty too about the costs! 👍👍
No bother 👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Enjoy the new bike Bruce👍. I nearly went for a GS last March (I buy under a year old with minimal miles for cash) but the dealer Bahnstormer Alton wouldn’t move an inch on any of their bikes (meaningful amounts)- so I walked. Premier Bikes Abingdon offered me a Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Pro less than a 1000 miles on the clock, less than a year old under 14k last March, I even squeezed them for a heated seat. I think the new GS is a real winner, I’ll be looking at one in 12 months assuming I can get a deal, the engine sounds louder than the old 1250 is that right - anyway enjoy! (love your vids BTW) 👍
There’s a nice understated growl to the 1300 - it sounds like a slightly smaller R18 growl to me
I no how long you have waited for this bike always good to see you happy the beautiful thing about motorcycles is the freedom of choice and you definitely made the right choice for you no bike is perfect but this bike is perfect for you ☝️ reference to your comment about all new bikes having teething problems this is so true you definitely are BMWs unpaid development test rider and that’s development 😎🤘❤️ enjoy have a amazing Christmas 🎅 see you next year 🙏
Thanks very much bud, Merry Christmas to you and the family too.
See you in 2024! 👍
Congratulations on the new bike, am wondering how the lightbeam looks in the dark. Headlight looks alien...
I think your point about bikes having problems and it being the way t hat they are dealt with is spot on. I'm just about to get my 4th BM after getting completely fed up with the customer service of a major Italian brand (mostly red bikes). Bikes have hiccups but being well looked after speaks volumes.
Can’t wait for the 1300RS-- hope it looks better than the front of the GS
Really good video and food for thought. It’s growing on me, not sure I’ll be changing my current GS just yet though. Be interesting to see what the 1400 presents, assuming it will be a GSA replacement and a fatter version 🤔
Loads of great info there, thanks Bruce. I'm a KTM 1290 SAS owner and I have to admit, this new GS is slightly turning my head, don't tell SamV ;)
Ha Ha, take one for a spin, but if you’re a KTM fan, I think it may not be quite ‘raw’ enough for you. It’s great fun, but still civilised in comparison 👍
Lovely bike, still not convinced on the headlight but havent seen on in the flesh so may be better. Everything else looks like a decent upgrade
Interesting to see how,the differences in the bike are going to be. Glad you are enjoying it so much so far. Merry Christmas and all the best for the new year. 😎🏍💨💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦🍻
Thanks John, Merry Christmas to you and your family too bud, wishing you the very best for 2024 👍
Nice real world honest review having had a test ride concur one helluva bike and the first GS where you wind it on and scream fuggginell!!
Oh dear it's got that fault your 1250 had, in the "National's" after about 57mph the speedo goes blank! What a shame!
Love the vid Bruce, GSs aren't my thing but I do appreciate the tech and power they deliver!
I’ll need to look into that? 🤷♂️
Looks like a nice bike glad to see you are enjoying it. The big questions for me is it a comfortable as my 1200. Is the weather protection as good. Looking forward to seeing what you feel about it after a long ride. And getting it wee bit grotty.
Awesome! Now I'm intrigued about how good is the "matrix" headlight and a nite ride to see how good it is will be perfect since there is no video at all about it!
It’s in hand 😉
Myself and @halfmanhalfpirate are filming something soon on it 👍
@teapotone wonderful! Yoy will be one of the first.I do a lot of nite riding here in the states and lights are important!
Perfect punchy review, great video!! Enjoy the new bike😀 As a KTM SA owner I'd quite like to try it. (Did I say that our loud🤐)
Ha Ha cheers Chris, Chuck your leg over one, but if you like the KTM SA I’m pretty sure it’ll still be a bit tame/reserved for you.
The KtM is still the more engaging ride in my book 👍
I might just do that @@teapotone
Nice vid, Same as mine, great bikes, only issues I have are filtering through London confuses the radar and auto brakes regularly which is a bit annoying, although I’m sure it can be de-activated. Mine buzzes through bars and pegs around 90 in top, you have this issue?
As a short arse the 1300 is the first GS I can just about stretch so's now a viable choice, I know a lot of owners of earlier 1200 and 1250s aren't big fans of the new looks but I really like them and the more compact design.
Still waiting for mine as it’s currently stuck at BMW UK waiting for the recall bits to be fitted but should be here early new year; coming from an 850 GSA so may have to ride in rain mode for a while before I get used to it 😂. Never had a bad experience over multiple BMW dealers, had a KTM once. Never again. The dealer went bust unsurprisingly!
Top Video Marra! Geoff is certainly made for Strictly..........................
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Looks like your happy with the new 1300, good to get a real life as the bike rides review. Cheers stay safe.
I rode the same bike UsernamKate took out at the weekend.
First GS that had me shouting “FAR CANAL” when I pinned it
Its the torque that wakes you up
A proper Naughty Beast haha Love it Bruce. Thanks for the mention, you shouldn't have! Made up you're loving the new bike :)
Cheers Kate👍
Been looking forward to this vid and it does look lovely but warning lights on already? That's very KTM 😉 I still can't get over the price. 21k is mental.
I have the option 719 full options. In my opinion it is a race GS. And that is exactly what I wanted from this new GS. I am stil breaking in the engine. Found that the gearbox was harsh in the beginning. Needed a lot of force to change gears but it is getting better and hope after breaking in and changing Oil it will be perfect. Is your supplier of ceramic coatings also do bikes in the Netherlands?
Hi @TeapotOne - enjoying your content. This is my first GS .. I bought the shiny green one with gold spoked rims ;-) (the chavvy one - lol) but love your triple black!
How are you finding the quick-shifter? It's possibly me, my previous bike was a Tiger 900 (which I found really dull, but my previous bike to that was a GSXR1000), I found the Tiger's quick-shifter really smooth -- however I'm finding the GS1300's quick-shifter a bit clunky - especially 2-3 ... but also 5-6 up and down -- like I say, possibly me, not heard yours clunking at all through your videos.
Also I'm finding the front brake leave pulls a bit close to the bars, I'm used to 1 or 2 finger braking while holding the throttle .. but have found I can't apply enough pressure before I'm crushing my fingers ... span I've set to the widest; but have been trying to adapt and not 1-2finger brake.
Loving the GS, so much more responsive (as you'd expect) from the Tiger ... I felt the Tiger was really vague on the front, where I'm finding I'm a lot more confident with the front of the GS.
May see you around on the South Coast roads!!
@TeapotOne Great video!!!! Do you find the knee bend and or siting position different than on your 1250? I have heard the foot pegs are set further back and the knee bend is different. I am 6 foot tall and concerned about the ridding position. We don't have them in the U.S. as of yet so I can't sit on one yet. I had a 2019 GSA and loved the sitting position. Just curious how different it is on the 1300. Thank you!
How can @teapotone not love the Saltaire headlamp
Hope your enjoying your new bike Bruce 👍
Loving it, cheers Michael 👍
The light you’ve got and the message you got, I’ve had the exact same on my new r1250GSA?
Aye it seems there are quite a few people in the same boat bud, lots of comments on here
Hanging on to see the adventure when it arrives, nice to hear the figures tho not enough people go into that 👍🏼 ive had them for the last 10 years just unsure if i want a new one and go though it all again,
I’m hearing 2025 being handed about for the new GSA bud - fingers crossed it’s sooner 👍
@@teapotone it'll be here in May they want our money 💰 🤣👍🏼
I quite like the new front end seems to fit it much better all round great video as allways
Great video once more, Bruce, thank you.
I’ve had two test rides on the 1300GS and enjoyed them both immensely.
As others have commented, gear box is a bit stiff 2-3 but now better at 2000 miles after the 1st service.
Your GS does look immaculate with the ceramic coating and the spoked wheels ( an optional extra I think ).
Boring question perhaps - does your Geoff clean up more easily and better with his ceramic coating ?
Yes bud, but you have to keep on top of it. I give the bike a quick rinse down with the hose when I get in from a ride, just to get the big muck off.
I’ve not given it a proper actual wash yet and it still looks great.
I’ll keep you all updated through the year with how it’s going 👍
Great news - get the miles in and keep the updates coming 😊
Hi Bruce,
Great videos.
Who do you insure with, I'm struggling to find an insurer for my incoming R1300GS.
Thanks
TT
Nice bike great vid. Yes I’d like to see you take the NT1100 out again I’ve had a gs and I don’t find the Nt boring.
Great review. Do you know if the adaptive ride height can be turned on /off or is it just always engaged.
No idea, I didn’t bother with it on mine
New subscriber. But a great man to watch. Super video.
Thanks bud, and welcome to the channel 👍
PPF is the way to go for protecting the paintwork IMO. I had the same issue on my 1250GS where my knees rubbed on the tank, one panel was changed under warranty and PPF fitted afterwards. 3 years on the tank still looked like new as Cotswold Motorrad loaded into the van
My experience of how I get treated wwith my versus 1000 gt se at Greenham Kawasaki Newbury is still to a good level. Very happy with servicing, aftermarket part department. ( Kawasaki not BMW).
It is bit of a trek to get there but they are an official Kawasaki dealer not a franchise dealer.
Great Review Bruce . 👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻
Cheers mate, just a quickie, I’ll be doing a proper full review once I’ve got a few thousand on the clock 👍
How's the headlight perform? Always thought the 1250 low beam was not great - any improvement on 1300?
Yep I’ve got the Headlight Pro so it ‘leans’ into the turn with you.
I’ll be doing some filming on this soon and comparing it to the 1250 👍
‘The Tramontana is chavvie’ - says the man who’s fitted flashing emblem lights 🤭🤭. Having owned two Triple Blacks I’m looking forward to my green and gold chav-mobile arriving in March - a 200 mile test ride from Inverness to Skye and back convinced me, it’s just so much better in all areas for me.
Hi Bruce, what brand iPhone mount are you using ? Great Video !!!
Thanks bud, phone mount is just a cheap one off eBay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134152167375?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NPeBrmLgQ7a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2ajOQ692S_-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I’ve had nothing but first class treatment from my bmw dealer. The aftercare is second to none in my experience. This is one reason why I will buy another bmw.
Great to hear👍
Great vid. I like the content based around opinion and feel of the bike. Not point in rattling off stats which can be easily found. Well done please keep same format on bike reviews. An opinion can not be wrong it’s just an opinion as a viewer we can choose to ignore or accept.
Cheers, and good work👍
Absolutely👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice test, happy to hear the feeling is more important than papers :-) May I know witch micro system is used in this revue ? Thank You and Mery Xmas !
Your beard loves being in the video Bruce. 👍
Aye it’s getting out of control isn’t it, may have to deal with that in the New Year 👍
Enjoy your new motorcycle. I currently have a cruiser (HD Sport Glide) but would like to get something like this. Are they comfortable for longer distances? Thanks.
Very nice mate! 'HE' looked much better in person than in the pics and definitely stepped up the build finish! Kudos that you kept in the little error. New bikes always have some faults until they are ironed out but I guarantee the forums will be full of keyboard warriors! Definitely looks a more lively bike so will have to get myself on one! Think it's really going please those wanting a bit more knobbery with the BMW caressing
Ha Ha yeah it’s definitely much more capable in performance terms, but still lacks the ‘hooligan’ element of the Orangery.
This new 1390 is going to be mind blowing, there’s zero doubt about that👍
@@teapotone will let you know when I inevitably order one even though I tell myself regularly that I don't need more tech or power 😂
@@teapotone must admit chaps, seeing you both in November I was impressed with the “ABikeThing” lights (especially the bmw roundel lights) and accessories that you both have.
Off the topic of this vid - but @teapotone do you have a video on the cradle you use to house your mobile on the satnav mount at all?
Back on the bike - I think I fall into the camp of not liking the styling on the images I have seen. With that being said, I can imagine it probably does look absolutely lovely in person!
Congratulations on the purchase of Geoff, try not to ride him too hard 😂
I’ve not done a vid on the phone holder, it’s just one o got off eBay
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134152167375?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=NPeBrmLgQ7a&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=2ajOQ692S_-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I’ve just ordered a 1300, equipped similarly to yours..what do you think of the Vario cases?…any issues or concerns?
I’ve only got the top box, it’s a big step up in quality and looks good. It’s a wee bit smaller on the internal dimensions, but you can still fit a Vario liner bag in it… just.
Bloody expensive though at £540!
3m clear tape etc to protect the tank/frame area.. spray water and hairdryer make life easier fitting
Just found your channel and subbed. Look forward to seeing your video on those radar detected automatic brakes.
Great video Bruce love the comments on the bike and the honest opinions do you know why BMW have yet to give it back lit switch gear like all its competitors? It’s the only thing to me to let it down ? Ru getting engine guard bars fitted ?
Thanks bud, aye I’ve ordered some engine bars and just waiting for them to be delivered now.
Backlit switchgear - this has been a hotly debated topic amongst the GS forums for a long time. Lots of people on both sides.
BMW just seem to have dug their heals in here and categorically stated it’s not their intention to backlight the switchgear as they don’t see a need for it - that’s what I’ve gathered anyway, there may well be another reason?
I fully expected the 1300 to have them actually, but sadly not
Nice vid just wish I could fit in one but I’m a shorty
Ps rode through my neck of the woods that train stations a pain all the best Bruce
Nice one Bruce.
I think the specs etc. Can be a little misleading on some bikes. I went from BMW R1200R, 125bhp and nm torque, to KTM 790 adventure, 90 something bhp, about 80nm.
The specs say, it's vastly underpowered, I disagree!
There is a definite difference in power, but......
It doesn't distract from the 'pleasure' of riding the bike.
I ride a little differently, that's all.
As you said, it's the 'feel' of the bike, not the specs.
Enjoy your new bike, ride safe and have fun, Grumps
Exactly Grumps, we are all different (thankfully) and we all get different things from bikes 👍
Nice bike. If a bike doesn’t make me smile I change it .😂