@@francescapaladini5763 T'Pau explained that to Spock clearly. She would have chosen Stonn, who she was gambling would be able to take Spock, since he wasn't suffering from the Plaktow. The only drawback to that is if Spock had killed Stonn; she figured that Spock would send her packing, and she was OK with that - her main motivation was that she didn't want Spock.
@@jjohnston94 T'Pring initially planned to have Stonn fight Spock. When Kirk unexpectedly showed up to support Spock, T'Pring took advantage of the situation and choose Kirk. That lessened the chance of Stonn dying in battle. Having Stonn as her companion was T'Pring's main motive, regardless of the outcome.
Needed to have the previous scene where Spock refuses to fight Kirk and T'pau says,"Spock, you have prided yourself with your Vulcan heritage. Are the Vulcan or are the Human?"...it sets the tone for the whole fight!
You're exactly right. This subtext of this episode was the Vulcan v Human aspect of Spock's nature. In effect, Spock was in a struggle with his two sides, depicted externally in his physical battle with Kirk. Typically Spock's Vulcan mind is given to being faithfully analytical and stoic, and committed to discernment and judgment. During this combat, it was all passion, aggression and action. And in this episode, while Spock throughout the series appears to carry some level of embarrassment and disdain for his human qualities...being almost mockingly derisive towards these elements exhibited in others, especially McCoy, Spock shows reverence for these aspects: First, in his request that Kirk and McCoy join him on Vulcan in a ceremony the participation in which is an honor reserved for the "groom's" most closest, trusted companions; then in Spock's initial extreme remorse, says to T'pau (an esteemed Vulcan elder, to her customary farewell greeting salutation "Live long and prosper")..."I shall do neither" which was followed by Spock's poorly restrained jubilance at Kirk being alive. In effect, Spock having thought he truly killed his human side...cultivated most by Kirk, grieved deeply at the loss of Kirk and consigned himself to the end of his Starfleet career and the inevitable court martial and imprisonment that would follow. His excited relief at seeing Jim alive was an affirmation that he truly did NOT feel disgust and repulsion towards his human side, but rather embraced it. We see a subtle hint of this when Spock rather tenderly requests that Nurse Chapel make him Vulcan Plomeek soup. There's a softness to it.
Spock's look: "I'm coming after you, Kirk! All those alien women you banged almost on a daily basis, now you come after the only one I want! I'm going to weave a basket, Kirk, made out of your hide and it's where I'll place your horny butt!"
When you think about it, wearing reflective material on a sun-baked planet like Vulcan is functional as well as pretty. Deflect those rays and stay cool
It's been stated in other episodes that Vulcans adopted the way of logic to tame their savage nature, which threatened to destroy them. This episode clearly shows what lies beneath that veneer of logic, and it's terrifying to behold.
I can't believe nobody has made the "Cable Guy" quote yet... "The name is Spock... and if we don't fight, theeeey will kill us both." "Just get on the frickin' horse dude, I don't think he's kidding."
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlHe did. Sybok from Star Trek 5. Something about the mother being a Vulcan priestess. Obviously didn’t work out. Once free of that woman he was betrothed to, Sarek could go ahead and marry whichever woman he wanted.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl That depends on whether you consider Sybok as canon. I've heard (though haven't confirmed or debunked it) that Roddenberry disliked the character because he always intended Spock to be an only child.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl yes. Sybok's mother was a Vulcan princess. She died, Sarek marries Amanda. They have Spock. He and Sybok were raised as brothers. Only mother Sybok ever really knew was probably Amanda
@@mnirwin5112 D.C. Fontana developed most of the character profiles. She said Spock was an only child and his parents had no prior marriages/ children. This was to keep writers from inventing siblings, half-siblings etc. Sybok, and Sarek's prior marriage to a "princess", is revisionist by probably Roddenberry. He'd read a monumental fanfic, _Kraith_ (look it up, it's all online), by a professional author, where Spock has an older half-sister with a lot of political pull. She was nothing like Sybok, in fact the opposite.
@@andreeagherghescu8836 That's a negative. I don't know which wiki you looked at, but the credits of the shows clearly state: "Amok Time": T'Pau "Enterprise": T'Pol Memory Alpha backs me up in that they're completely different characters.
@@andreeagherghescu8836 And? It says exactly what I said: the original series character shown in this video was T'Pau, and the first officer of "Enterprise" was T'Pol, and they were different people.
I thought it grossly immoral and treacherous that T'pring doesn't inform Captain Kirk that it's a "fight to the death" until after he accepts the challenge.
Amok Time has the most depth of any TOS episode in terms of character development and actually taking us where no man has gone before. It has replaced City on the Edge as my all time favourite 🖖
Achintya Naithani As T'Pow said, this is what comes down from the time of the begining. Obviously, before, during snd after when the planet Vulcan went through it's changes going from a barbaric planet of Vulcans who nearly killed themselves off, and also the time the extremely violent Vulcans, who did not adhear, nor accept the peaceful teachings of logic and becoming stoic from Surik, who now became Romulans being transformed by the Peservers now to the Romulus Remus section of the galaxy, they both have kept the mating urges and rituals intact when it was time to take a wife.
strontiumXnitrate Forgive me for my ignorance, however, I've never seen that ever happen in our current society. Since when do women in today's society do the things like that you have written?
Que pena que aqui no Brasil não tenha cerimônias de casamento tão maravilhosas quanto está. Vocês norte americanos tem excelente imaginação. Congratulations Sir.
One of the best episodes! But if Kirk declined and another champion would be selected, would T'pring accept that champion as her mate should Spock be defeated?
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Remembering a 2000AD comic "Nemesis the Warlock" where the main character attends his own wedding and watches his fiancee and his ex girlfriend fight to the death for HIS hand in marriage.
It's also good that Spock didn't stab or club Kirk to death with the weapons. How did Kirk and McCoy know that he wouldn't do that? Then the fake-death hypo injection would have been to no avail.
Diane Duane actually dealt with that in the novel "Spock's World." The Enterprise is returning to Vulcan, and during a conversation with Spock's father Sarek, McCoy expresses some concern about how he'll be received after the stunt he pulled the last time he was there. Sarek assures him that "It is generally agreed, when the matter is discussed at all, that T'Pring's actions were grossly improper, and that you were bound by your oath to preserve life in any way you could." (Or words to that effect; it's been a while since I read it.) Seems logical. 🙂
this is the good stuff... just a few moments of trek. I must find more... so much is tainted though. I will have to turn to back ally dealers and fan films since CBS now taints their own well.
That fight music is enormously iconic! There is simply nothing like it. It’s instantly recognizable!
This planet looks like Inferno from Ultimate Doom (DOS)
What's this planet called?
What *is the name of that music??
Very,very true.
@@SylkaChan Vulcan, of course!
@@MedXOR It is a part of Maurice Ravel's 'Bolero' - it is 13 minutes long and slowly builds to a crescendo.
Did u see Kirk's face when he's told its combat to the death? 😄...priceless.
Yeah ... "HEY, WAIT A MINUTE; YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT EARLIER!!"
What about her plan if Kirk just refused the challenge?
@@francescapaladini5763 T'Pau explained that to Spock clearly. She would have chosen Stonn, who she was gambling would be able to take Spock, since he wasn't suffering from the Plaktow. The only drawback to that is if Spock had killed Stonn; she figured that Spock would send her packing, and she was OK with that - her main motivation was that she didn't want Spock.
@@jjohnston94 Just a bit of nitpicking: it was T'Pau who explained the rules but it was T'Pring who didn't want Spock ... fool that she was. :)
@@jjohnston94 T'Pring initially planned to have Stonn fight Spock. When Kirk unexpectedly showed up to support Spock, T'Pring took advantage of the situation and choose Kirk. That lessened the chance of Stonn dying in battle. Having Stonn as her companion was T'Pring's main motive, regardless of the outcome.
"I get in any trouble, I'll quit."
"This combat is to the death."
"I quit."
I'm a doctor not a Vulcan marital ritualistic combat expert, Jim. But you shoulda clarified the rules before you said yes.
RIP Leonard Nimoy, Celia Lovsky and Arlene Martel
Spock was legitimately scary in this episode. Nimoy did a pretty good job of looking out of control murderous.
Nimoy was always a gifted actor; he really had a passion for it
He doesn't know it yet, but he's tapping his inner Galvatron
Celia Lovsky was absolutely PERFECT as T’Pau. Terrific casting choice.
She was married to Peter Lorre.
Sorry to see you go Mr. Spock.......RIP Mr. Nimoy
this is the best music. in the series during the second season's fight scenes.
Intense shovel combat
Needed to have the previous scene where Spock refuses to fight Kirk and T'pau says,"Spock, you have prided yourself with your Vulcan heritage. Are the Vulcan or are the Human?"...it sets the tone for the whole fight!
You're exactly right. This subtext of this episode was the Vulcan v Human aspect of Spock's nature. In effect, Spock was in a struggle with his two sides, depicted externally in his physical battle with Kirk. Typically Spock's Vulcan mind is given to being faithfully analytical and stoic, and committed to discernment and judgment. During this combat, it was all passion, aggression and action. And in this episode, while Spock throughout the series appears to carry some level of embarrassment and disdain for his human qualities...being almost mockingly derisive towards these elements exhibited in others, especially McCoy, Spock shows reverence for these aspects: First, in his request that Kirk and McCoy join him on Vulcan in a ceremony the participation in which is an honor reserved for the "groom's" most closest, trusted companions; then in Spock's initial extreme remorse, says to T'pau (an esteemed Vulcan elder, to her customary farewell greeting salutation "Live long and prosper")..."I shall do neither" which was followed by Spock's poorly restrained jubilance at Kirk being alive. In effect, Spock having thought he truly killed his human side...cultivated most by Kirk, grieved deeply at the loss of Kirk and consigned himself to the end of his Starfleet career and the inevitable court martial and imprisonment that would follow. His excited relief at seeing Jim alive was an affirmation that he truly did NOT feel disgust and repulsion towards his human side, but rather embraced it. We see a subtle hint of this when Spock rather tenderly requests that Nurse Chapel make him Vulcan Plomeek soup. There's a softness to it.
@@victorpradha9946 Awww...That was a sweet analogy of Spock's inner conflict. 🤗🤗🤗 Live long and prosper, Victor!
@@elizabethjordan5755 It might be my favorite ST Original Series episode. Kirk's battle with the Romulans is another!
"This combat is to the death"....
Well, shit. You couldn't have said that 5 Goddamm minutes ago?
Fights to the death are always fights to the death.
He didn't ask.
Wasn't time for the commercial break yet
Or post a sign somewhere
This has gotta be my favourite comment about this scene.
Lol look at Spock; standing there like a crackhead... The blood lust episodes always make me laugh
Spock's look: "I'm coming after you, Kirk! All those alien women you banged almost on a daily basis, now you come after the only one I want! I'm going to weave a basket, Kirk, made out of your hide and it's where I'll place your horny butt!"
They used a lot of tin foil in the wardrobe department
All they had budget for.
They're budget was 32 dollars
its a space-age material
When you think about it, wearing reflective material on a sun-baked planet like Vulcan is functional as well as pretty. Deflect those rays and stay cool
@@margotrosendorn6371 on might even call it - logical 🖖
It's been stated in other episodes that Vulcans adopted the way of logic to tame their savage nature, which threatened to destroy them. This episode clearly shows what lies beneath that veneer of logic, and it's terrifying to behold.
Those damn bells.
After seeing T'Pring she ignited my Pon Farr.
I can't believe nobody has made the "Cable Guy" quote yet... "The name is Spock... and if we don't fight, theeeey will kill us both." "Just get on the frickin' horse dude, I don't think he's kidding."
I was just thinking about typing that until I saw your comment.😂
“This combat is to the death.”
“Now she tells me.”
T'pau TRIED to clue him in
"You may decline with NO HARM TO THYSELF". Sometimes Kirk doesn't listen very well. I'd maybe have asked a few questions.😊
And NOW we know why Sarek kept picking non Vulcan mates. He did not want to be risking his @$$ in combats to the death. Flawlessly logical!
Didn't he have a Vulcan wife at one point? Because Spock had a half brother or am I mistaken?
@@TimberlakeTigerGirlHe did. Sybok from Star Trek 5. Something about the mother being a Vulcan priestess. Obviously didn’t work out. Once free of that woman he was betrothed to, Sarek could go ahead and marry whichever woman he wanted.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl That depends on whether you consider Sybok as canon. I've heard (though haven't confirmed or debunked it) that Roddenberry disliked the character because he always intended Spock to be an only child.
@TimberlakeTigerGirl yes. Sybok's mother was a Vulcan princess. She died, Sarek marries Amanda. They have Spock. He and Sybok were raised as brothers. Only mother Sybok ever really knew was probably Amanda
@@mnirwin5112 D.C. Fontana developed most of the character profiles. She said Spock was an only child and his parents had no prior marriages/ children. This was to keep writers from inventing siblings, half-siblings etc. Sybok, and Sarek's prior marriage to a "princess", is revisionist by probably Roddenberry. He'd read a monumental fanfic, _Kraith_ (look it up, it's all online), by a professional author, where Spock has an older half-sister with a lot of political pull. She was nothing like Sybok, in fact the opposite.
Too bad Spock isn't an Andorian, otherwise Kirk could just slice off his antenna.
Now I really want a Star Trek series with an Andorran bridge officer
Ushaan?
@@hokusman100 Enterprise Season 5 was apparently supposed to have Shran join, but unfortunately it was cancelled.
There were several episodes that said Vulcan had twice the strength of a human.
Is this the same T'pau on Star Trek Enterprise, since Vulcans have longer life spans?
No, that's T'Pol.
@@jjohnston94 no , she is T'Pau, search on star trek wiki , T'Pau and they will show pictures with T'Pau ftom enterprise and TOS
@@andreeagherghescu8836 That's a negative. I don't know which wiki you looked at, but the credits of the shows clearly state:
"Amok Time": T'Pau
"Enterprise": T'Pol
Memory Alpha backs me up in that they're completely different characters.
@@jjohnston94 memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/T%27Pau look here
@@andreeagherghescu8836 And? It says exactly what I said: the original series character shown in this video was T'Pau, and the first officer of "Enterprise" was T'Pol, and they were different people.
Somebody posted two cats fighting on RUclips with this very music. Very funny!
This combat is to the det
Then it was a good thing Mcoy cheated, right? I bet he understood her Vulcan accent
“To the Det?” 😨
🎶🎵Some people say that there’s a woman to blame. But I know- it’s my OWN damn fault” 🎶🎵 🤕
Kirk is like T'pau if i win you better get ready because im going to want more then a mind meld!
The real T`pau
Yep, T'pau left out one teeny tiny detail. And that combination oversized pizza slicer/potato masher is going to hurt something fierce!
Discovering the house rules for pool has often led to unhappier endings.
The actress portraying T'Pau is Austrian. I was thinking that she spoke with a somewhat like German accent.
Yes, Viennese
The lirpa looked like a real weed whacker.
That fight music is taken from Maurice Ravel's 'Bolero" - it is 13 minutes long and slowly builds to a crescendo. Just skip to the last 3 minutes.
"This combat, is to the death."
Oh, NOW YOU TELL ME!
Episode name: Amok Time (1967, 2nd seasom premiere episode)
Music: The Ritual / Ancient Battle / 2nd Kroykah
Composer: Gerald Fried
I thought it grossly immoral and treacherous that T'pring doesn't inform Captain Kirk that it's a "fight to the death" until after he accepts the challenge.
I have all the Original Series episodes and the Star Trek 50 year anniversary Insginia Badge. BTW The Animated series too and all six movies.
Elena Pangandoyon. YOU LUCKY GIRL LIVE LONG AND PROSPER
Nice👍👍👍👍👍
Damned!!!
Yeah that ringing would drive anyone to fight amidst all those hormones.
Fun fact: Celia Lovsky (T'pau) was married to Peter Lorre.
True love, even after they divorced they were always friends and lived near each other.
We’re a logical species who doesn’t disclose the rules until after the contestant has agreed to participate.
This makes me think of Cable Guy. Who else thinks of that scene at Mid Evil Times in the movie?
Mid evil?
@@bongoseropersa5240
Not really evil and not slightly evil...just about right evil.
@@strangelee4400 does this mean we live in high evil times?
Good God! What an episode!
Amok Time has the most depth of any TOS episode in terms of character development and actually taking us where no man has gone before. It has replaced City on the Edge as my all time favourite 🖖
Completely awesome
*lalalalalalalalaaaaaa!
We must fight to the death, captain. Or they will kill us both!
-cable guy
'This combat is to the death.'
'You might have led with that...'
Crazed Spock is about 10x scarier than Gorn. 🐲
'Combat for the possession of the woman...' Yes. Very logical.
pop5678eye They seem....primitive.
Achintya Naithani As T'Pow said, this is what comes down from the time of the begining. Obviously, before, during snd after when the planet Vulcan went through it's changes going from a barbaric planet of Vulcans who nearly killed themselves off, and also the time the extremely violent Vulcans, who did not adhear, nor accept the peaceful teachings of logic and becoming stoic from Surik, who now became
Romulans being transformed by the Peservers now to the Romulus Remus section of the galaxy, they both have kept the mating urges and rituals intact when it was time to take a wife.
Dan Basta I know. I was just poking fun at the fact that the logical Vulcans are too stubborn and proud to change their traditions.
strontiumXnitrate Forgive me for my ignorance, however, I've never seen that ever happen in our current society. Since when do women in today's society do the things like that you have written?
strontiumXnitrate what?
T'pring is fine as wine🍷🥰
Que pena que aqui no Brasil não tenha cerimônias de casamento tão maravilhosas quanto está. Vocês norte americanos tem excelente imaginação. Congratulations Sir.
This is what results from banning porn and frowning upon masturbation...
One of the best episodes! But if Kirk declined and another champion would be selected, would T'pring accept that champion as her mate should Spock be defeated?
Good question, since she made it clear it was Stonn she wanted.
The air is the air.😊
This combat is to the death.. oops
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Go complain to Google. If enough people do perhaps they'll change their policy.
@@g00gleminus96 - Google doesn't bother with us peons unless there's something like a million man demonstration, or get a few million to boycott them. RUclips became the ultimate suck machine when Google purchased them.
Don't volunteer for something when you don't know the rules.
Remembering a 2000AD comic "Nemesis the Warlock" where the main character attends his own wedding and watches his fiancee and his ex girlfriend fight to the death for HIS hand in marriage.
I would not FUCK around with T’pau……
Or find out
It's also good that Spock didn't stab or club Kirk to death with the weapons. How did Kirk and McCoy know that he wouldn't do that? Then the fake-death hypo injection would have been to no avail.
I enjoyed the ahn woon more than the lirpa.
Spock's wife is cute
Depring is so pretty.😊😊😊
Notice the Romulan like helmuts.
Good thing an autopsy on Kirk wasn't ordered.
Actress playing T'Pal?
Celia Lovsky
@@jonathanmyers2867 Thank you!
@@jonathanmyers2867 She seems very suited to the role for reasons that I cannot name, she just seems convincing. Do you know who played T'pring?
Ah! Found her.
@@soslothful Arlene Martel, but on Strange New Worlds she played by Gia Sandhu.
Here coz of the Big Bang theory channel :)
What happens when T'Pau finds out McCoy and Spock pulled a fast one on her with the hypo injection?
Diane Duane actually dealt with that in the novel "Spock's World." The Enterprise is returning to Vulcan, and during a conversation with Spock's father Sarek, McCoy expresses some concern about how he'll be received after the stunt he pulled the last time he was there. Sarek assures him that "It is generally agreed, when the matter is discussed at all, that T'Pring's actions were grossly improper, and that you were bound by your oath to preserve life in any way you could." (Or words to that effect; it's been a while since I read it.) Seems logical. 🙂
@@ballyastrocade5672 Thanks.
Sorry, I meant McCoy and Kirk. Spock, of course, is unaware of the true contents of the hypo.
I love her accent
So.....Who won???
Should have looked it up in wiki.
this is the good stuff... just a few moments of trek. I must find more... so much is tainted though. I will have to turn to back ally dealers and fan films since CBS now taints their own well.
🖖🖖😎🖖🖖🍁
make a new Star Trek Film from Captain Picard
OOOPS !?
AAAAAAAÀ, Yeah ? AA.
Maybe, i should, have, asked about the, Rules.
The Band of Gypsies version of this was much better.
😮😅😅😮😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
No Discovery trailer available on the official site? losing faith in Trek
Lurpak
Oh the cringe. Oh the cringe. 😳😫😫😫😫
What a nerd
This scene always cracked me up for some reason.